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Official Van Luxemburgian Military Announcement

In the following weeks, Van Luxemburg will be training on Terrains especially closed off for the event. this to counter the ever-expanding threat of Terroristic Organizations, such as the well-known GLM. Van Luxemburg hereby invites other countries to participate and take their equipment. the main units of the Van Luxemburgian Army will train against Van Luxemburgian Civil Defense Force soldiers, using the MILES system. this means that weapons will only fire blank shots and employs laser to show hits, so no-one will be hurt. the Training Areas will be following this line:

The Drunense Duinen, Dutch province
Austrian and Swiss Province Alps
Amphibious training, Northsea, Hamburg, German province
Seabattle, Gulf of Lyon, French province
Belgian and Luxembourgian province Ardennes
Desert training, Andalucia, Spanish province
Snow training, Northern Norway
Island-Hopping, Greek province.

Any nation is invited to take part. they are asked to supply their own materials.
(OOC: I liked this Idea and I'm going to try this, so let's hope someone signs up. otherwise I'll have to do it all alone. for specifications on the Van Luxemburgian Armed Forces, check here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=443326). thanks.)

We would be interested in running a few of our special forces groups* throught the different excersises.

ooc: Special Forces and Special Ops are different types of units.

(OOC: how would you calssify Special Forces then?)

From: Van Luxemburgian Ministry of Defence
To: Theao

you're greatly welcome! we'll wait a bit for more interested, and then start the exercises.

(OOC: how would you calssify Special Forces then?)
From: Van Luxemburgian Ministry of Defence
To: Theao
you're greatly welcome! we'll wait a bit for more interested, and then start the exercises.
We thank you and shall wait till others join.

ooc: Special Forces are trained to focus on certain terrain types, IE: Urban(Sub-groups: Industrial, Rural, Suburban ect.)

(OOC: aha, then my Special forces are okay, I think. specialized in naval or Ground warfare.)

To: Minister of Defense, Van Luxemburg
From: Minister of Defense, Kingdom of Listeneisse

Our nation would like to deploy a reinforced corps-sized force, if permitted, in this upcoming exercise (30,000 to 40,000 troops). This would include heavy armored units, air mobile divisions, light infantry and marines.

Additional forces would include naval surface, submarine, and amphibious assault squadrons, plus air wings of fixed-wing, rotor and UAV assets.

Listeneisse can provide own sea, air transport and petrol. What limitations on numbers, basing, and other operations would you wish to impose?

Are you still determining what the scenario, objectives and OPFORs would be?

Our forces have been training diligently recently. We have also developed mathematical models and simulators of artillery, missile and air strikes to work in conjuction with systems like MILES to determine damage simulation, as well as complex NBC simulations (we've been training against NBC attacks to simulate a 'dirty war,' but our men would be glad if they just as soon did not need to don their gear; we can pack it and bring it regardless just to put a good scare into them).

Please review TO&E (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9712690&postcount=70) of our forces. Numbers are substantially different since last bottom-up review. (Seven budget cycles since last full report was presented; defense spending is up per annum approx. 17%, and many more major systems have been procured since then.)

Your nation and forces are likely an order of magnitude larger than ours. The goal would be to have joint training and develop experience in overseas operations, along with practice in tactical force integration.

Of course, only a small portion of our entire military could be sea transported and airlifted into theatre. As stipulated, likely a corps-plus sized force, which would likely take one month to transport and prepare. Other forces could be there sooner, but since this is an exercise, we can ensure prudent precautions are taken in prepositioning forces.

Also, because we are only one corps-sized force, we would not be able to engage all theatres effectively simultaneously. We propose the following:

Track 1: "Drive on Rhine"
1. Amphibious training, Northsea, Hamburg, German province - landing; combine with airborne ops.
2. The Drunense Duinen, Dutch province - secure more ports
3. Belgian and Luxembourgian province Ardennes - additional ports; turn inland

Track 2: "Securing Sea Lines of Communications (SLOC)"
1. Desert training, Andalucia, Spanish province - establishing W. Med. land & air superiority
2. Seabattle, Gulf of Lyon, French province - clearing W. Med of naval assets
3. Island-Hopping, Greek province - taking control of siezed islands from agressor OPFOR

Track 3: "Special Forces Interdictions"
1. Snow training, Northern Norway - Royal Marines landings
2. Austrian and Swiss Province Alps - Light Infantry and Airborne Ops.

To be frank, an amphibious operation directed against Hafen Hamburg seems doomed. Unless both sides of the river could be taken, it has a long river estuary which could be bombarded severely and extensively by ground assets as any landing tried to reach the port, which is approx. 130 km (70 nm) inland. Clearing the estuary would require minesweeping as well as antipersonnel and antitank efforts. Even small RPGs would play havoc with incoming vessels. The last thing you'd want is a nice juicy handful of container ships scuttled to block passage.

One could land between Cuxhaven and Bremerhaven, trying to sieze both feeder/panamax container ports (Cuxhaven also supports Ro-Ro loading), but they would severely limit landings and logistics, plus put the landing force on the wrong side of the river. Landing on the other side (north bank) would be difficult, because of lack of portage. Furthermore, there would be no air basing available immediately, requiring significant sortee rates from carriers or long range distance with air refueling.

Again, please advise of scenario and general assessment of OPFOR.

MOD, Listeneisse

ooc: Are you planning on using the NationStates battle calculator to determine how this will run? I'm keen on trying out a few scenarios.

From: Ministry of Defence, Van Luxemburg
To: Minister of Defense, Kingdom of Listeneisse

We accept your force deployed and our Idea was consisting the following:

Course 1: Amphibious Training "Cautious Waters"
1. Amphibious training, Northsea, Hamburg, German province
2. Seabattle, Gulf of Lyon, French province - clearing W. Med of naval assets
3. Island-Hopping, Greek province - taking control of siezed islands from agressor OPFOR

Course 2: Forest training "Green Sight"
1. The Drunense Duinen, Dutch province - Secure and clear Area of VLCDF units.
2. Belgian and Luxembourgian province Ardennes - Special Operations/Forces warfare, securing small parts of the Ardennes.

Course 3: Climate Training "Hot Whiteout"
1. Desert training, Andalucia, Spanish province - Desert/ Heat battles
2. Snow training, Northern Norway - Snow survival battles
3. Austrian and Swiss Province Alps - Alpine Infantry and Mountain expeditions/patrols

and, we're not thinking that a landing in the Hamburg area is doomed. it is perfectly possible to do a landing few kilometers west of the river. no landing inside actual Hamburg will be made. and don't worry, our forces will also be transported fourth and back to the Training areas.

~Ministry of Defence, by order of the Grand Duke, Koen van Luxemburg, Grand Duchy of Van Luxemburg.

TO: Van Luxemburgian Government
FROM: Minister Alexia Daecher, Ministry of Defense, Wingarde

SUBJECT: Military excercises in Van Luxemburg

Greetings,

In light of the announcement of military wargames to be carried out in Van Luxemburgian territory, our nation would like to test its Armed Forces against other powers' in every field and situation possible. We are specially interested in the sea battle excercises, since our Navy is highly experienced, given the fact over half of our territory is water, and small operations are conducted frequently. We are also eager to know if similar wargames are taking place in the air, since the Federal Air Force is arguably the most powerful branch of our military, and it is our prime interest to witness it compete against comparable forces. We also expect to increase the interest of some countries in national military industries, such as Wingarde Aerospace and Ravenholm Shipyards.

Please provide us with all the necessary information to take part in these memorable events, including dates and personnel and equipment requirement. I am certain all the participating nations will benefit from the wargames.

Yours faithfully,

Alexia Daecher,
Minister of Defense,
Democratic States of Wingarde

From: Van Luxemburgian Ministry of Defence
To: Wingarde Ministry of Defense, Minister Alexia Daecher

It's great to once again see a great ally of us taking part in our wargames. we do not put a minimum on the forces, however 100,000 men is an absolute maximum for Foreign forces. we would like to make a comparison between both Van Luxemburgian Navy/Airforce and Wingardian Navy/Airforce, because both are highly trained, and will be excellent allies or enemies. during all our battles Aerial support will be a large part of the exercise, aswell as Artillery used on positions. we however will need to put some airforces up against eachother, because the Van Luxemburgian Airforce isn't capable of fielding two complete airforces, however small parts should be possible. you could interest us with National Military Industries, because we will be needing foreign equipemnt for a while, until VDZ & VL opens again.

~Ministry of Defence, by order of the Grand Duke, Koen van Luxemburg, Grand Duchy of Van Luxemburg.

To: Van Luxemburgian European Government
From: Federal Military Republic of Vuhifell
Subject: Deployment of Military Forces in relation to armed training

Hello,

We are greatly interested in these military training exercises being held in Van Luxemburg. Our government's being close allies as we are, we would request a slot in this program. The recent conflicts relating to the 'Kazach Order' has proven that our federal military is not prepared to deal with threats, that the Foxtechan Elite Black Guard has been spread too thin in order to cope with the inexperience of the Vuhifellian Military.

To prevent further international humiliation, a division of the 2nd Army will be signing up for all activities related to these training exercises and, upon request, teaching the new techniques and skills to the major army back in Vuhifell.

We hope this will not be the end of relations between our two nations.

>November 6, 2072, Vuhifellian Military Calender

Thank You,

Howard Fortstall
Howard Fortstall
Commander-in-Chief of Vuhifellian Armed Forces

Filling in temporarily for:

Stevan Daniels
Stevan Daniels
President of Vuhifell

From: Van Luxemburgian Ministry of Defence
To: Howard Fortstall, Federal Military Republic of Vuhifell

Ofcourse you're welcome, and we'd surely like to welcome. we regret the absence of Stevan Daniels, could you inform us where he is at the moment?

~Ministry of Defence, by order of the Grand Duke, Koen van Luxemburg, Grand Duchy of Van Luxemburg.

TO: VAN LUXEMBOURG HIGH COMMAND // COPY TO MILITARY ARCHIVE

We would like to join the exercises occuring in your country, we will be deployign a wide range of units including the newly acquired pride of the confederate Navy, the Argentine class Galleon Repulse and its escorts, as well as froeign legion and regualr army units, coudl you give guidelines of the number of men considered appropriate?

BREAKBREAK

From: Van Luxemburgian Ministry of Defence
To: Spizania

we thnak you for your application, and we would like to mention tghat we have set the maximum of men included on 100,000 men, and there's no minimum number of men.

We'll be dispatching the Repulse, Glorious, the Repulse AD Squadron and the 1st Transport Flottila A total of 17 vessels with the follwoingn units aboard:

1st Highlander FL(Trungsten) 15000
12th Paratroopers 15000
156th Air Cavalry battalion 750
1st & 2nd Marines 15000(30000)
3rd and 4th Mechanised 10000(20000)
45th heavy Amour Regiment 800

Woudl this be acceptable

OOC: Um, Vuhifellian States' year is 2072. Isn't this MT? =/

OOC: Um, Vuhifellian States' year is 2072. Isn't this MT? =/

[OOC: Different calendar. It's the year 5070, or just abouts, according to the Jews. :p ]

Ministry of Defense, Van Luxemburg,

In the interest of furthuring Triancia's reputation as a military power, as well as to learn advance techniques, while exchanging some of our own, Triancia would like to send a force of troops to participate in these excerises. We have a number of forces avalible to particpate, and would like to know what exercises would be open at this time.

Brigidier Shawl O'Rielly,
Trianician EXCOM

To: Ministry of Defense, Van Luxemburg

In the light of the recent special operations events being held within your nation we would like to send one of our newest units to it, hoping to display the power and abilities of the Waffen-SS in a humane ambience, as opposed to what the Waffen-SS is normally used to - war and blood. This unit is to be one of the many recently created Special Operation Units within the Waffen-SS from some of the most psycopathic soldiers of the Imperial Race. Nonetheless, we guarantee their full civility within the event.

This team is composed of one hundred and fifty frontline personnel, and although they will not be necessary for this event, the three hundred logistical personnel will also be tagging along with them. Although comparatively small, we assure you that this will be enough for us, not to mention that most of our forces are very necessary for the defense of the Empire in our now raging War of Golden Succession.

However, we have a few requests to make. The most important is the need for living quarters, and in the light of this we request the ability to make our own living quarters in the form of a temporary base twenty kilometers from the event, in open country. We guarantee that when it's time to go back home there will be no sign of the base left at all; it's construction is to be purely rudimentary and out of wood. Least important is the need for food and water from your country, and we will pay all venders for this. That should be all, as we have trained military police within that logstical sector to keep these men reined in, and they will make no interaction with the civilians of Van Luxemburg.

Regardless, we're looking for some fun, and we hope that this will provide our Waffen-SS with the necessary debut they deserve.

However, before I continue this official application I have taken a closer look at the program, and have decided to allot more units to this training exercise. The 2nd Waffen-SS Special Operations Unit is to participate solely in Course 2, and will be used in conjunction with the newly allocated 3rd Waffen-SS Special Operations Unit.

For Course 1 we shall allot the 1st Waffen-SS Special Operations Regiment, composed of one thousand five hundred frontline personnel and two thousand five hundred logistical personnel. These will acompany a fleet composed of six of our newest Ardous class Destroyers [OOC: Which will have their full write-up done this Friday], three Seydlitz class Cruisers, two Clauswitz class Frigates, two Pepperbox class Logistical Supply Ships and eight Azores class Fast Attack Craft. For course three we will use both special operations units and the single special operations regiment.

Sorry for the confusing extension to this application, but it should clear up any problems.

[signed]Fedor I

To: His Royal Highness, Grand Duke Koen van Luxemburg
From: Minister of Defense, Kingdom of Listeneisse

Our thanks for the welcoming. We'll be preparing final list of forces in coming days, having to do force assessment & logistical planning for ops. It will be far easier knowing this is not a 'shooting war,' or convoys of petrol tankers would be quite the prize target. Fortunately, we'd only be losing them 'virtually' for the purpose of exercise if they are considered targetable. Suggest modeling of interdiction effects on fuel supplies if this is to be a serious exercise involving ongoing logistics. Our guess is a handful of attack submarines that slip the noose would put entire landing operations at hazard.

Course 1: Amphibious Training "Cautious Waters"

What is the basis of these highly divergent theatres being put into a single exercise? Presume there will be sequential phases? There is no way to tackle all these at one go, unless we expect to be met by landing forces consisting solely of Boy Scouts. (e.g., Naval surface and submarine assets for 2 would be required for escort, littoral defense and shore bombardment for 1. Also, we'd need to withdraw units and vessels from 1 to support 3.)

1. Amphibious training, Northsea, Hamburg, German province

...and, we're not thinking that a landing in the Hamburg area is doomed. it is perfectly possible to do a landing few kilometers west of the river. no landing inside actual Hamburg will be made. and don't worry, our forces will also be transported fourth and back to the Training areas.
Still cautious about this op vs. Heligoland Bight. Would we be presuming extensive mining of approaches? North Friesland coast n. of Elbe and esp. n. of Eider infamous for extensive tidal flats. We have a few tank-capable hovercraft to make land (enough for a tank platoon at each go; a few sortees and we'd have a company disembarked) and many helos, but there is no significant large deep portage for heavy equipment n. of Elbe. Agreed landing in Ostfriesland between Cuxhaven and Bremerhaven best shot for siezing heavy equipment ports; flanks defended by Elbe and Weser between Hamburg/Bremen line, but highly exposed until Schelswig-Holstein cleared to line of Kiel-Hamburg north and south to Emden, then down Ems river/Dortmund-Ems Canal line perhaps as far as Osnabrück or Munster. If it is simply an exercise to get ashore to establish LZ or L+1, this is an easy thing. If exercise is to go L+7 to establish bridgehead, MI and simulation models suggest a tough slog, esp. facing heavy divisions and air interdiction upon landing. Have noted siezure of air bases at Nordholz (naval air) and Itzehoe (helicopter aviation), Holn (helo), Jagel (fighter-bomber), Jever (maintenance unit) and Wittmund (fighter-bomber) may be key to establish local land-based air operations. If unable to capture, then they would need to be denied to hostile OPFOR. There are a lot of rivers/canals, so combat engineering bridging equipment essential. Also must ask about naval and air deployment in area, or are we to presume no sortees? (Would need explanation if no defense; amphibious operations launched into a strong naval/air presence is suicide.)

Has your Minister of Finance taken into account costs/effects to local economy? In other words, are you -certain- army-sized landings would be welcome (Listeneisse is providing a corps alone), or would you prefer to have more limited wargame scope?

Also presume we'd have to ask nicely to let our tanks get off rather than allow loading of Volkswagons meant for export. Mind you that debarkation of our forces, even with ambhibious assault and Ro-Ro/Lo-Lo fast transport ships would take significant time. We are not sure that, if there were other forces also accompanying RAL landing there'd be enough room at the quays.

We'll need to draw up a proper OB and debarkation plan as we get other forces committed to exercise. Otherwise, we'll all be backed up all the way to Dogger Bank with ships waiting to offload for days.

2. Seabattle, Gulf of Lyon, French province - clearing W. Med of naval assets
Please specify which islands or continental bases land-based air assets might sortee from, plus est. strengths. Original proposal presumed initial scenario of no Med presence, hence landing in Adalusia (to clear Straights) and progress across Med eastward towards Agean (Baleres, Sardina, Corsica, etc.). Objective in this would likely be clearing seas as far as Italian peninsula - Malta - Tunis. But entire scenario hinges on what littoral areas are "friendly," especially for land-based interdictions and also as emergency fields for carrier aircraft diverts. RNL won't be able to commit until finished escorting/supporting amphibious assault in Friesland (i.e., air superiority established and assets replaced by land-based air in bridgehead airfields). If we do this afterwards, we can redeploy south, yet are no match for entire VL fleet. If we also have to face land-based air sortees, this is the equivalent of shooting fish in a barrel.

3. Island-Hopping, Greek province - taking control of siezed islands from agressor OPFOR
We presumed this happens "last" so (apart from arctic/desert exercises) amphibious assets from Helgoland Bight landings or GoL naval battle (see above) might be available. Objectives can differ widely. Is this to re-take islands as 'mopping up' action, or to take forward air bases providing interdiction of Black Sea/Suez SLOC in an ongoing conflict, or, to establish such against OPFOR? Also would likely "cherry pick" from list of possible islands to establish LZs. For islands left out of fight, presume they would have a nice Mediterranean vacation. Also suggest antiship operations by a few rogue attack submarines and naval air units looking to ruin the fun.

Course 2: Forest training "Green Sight"

Here we plan to have a fair bit of fun. We've been training in Perilous Forest for years. We also have a mix of paramilitary forces -- Royal Foresters -- who serve as pathfinders, medivac, and other support roles. They were quite keen to see if they could poke their nose in on proceedings.

1. The Drunense Duinen (http://www.ahojky.net/pages/Netherlands/Netherlands%20-%20Drunense%20Duinen%20NP%20Info.htm), Dutch province - Secure and clear Area of VLCDF units.
Quite tricky, I see. Doing some surveying, it looks like it's a rather large desert in the middle of an otherwise green country. Picked all the trees for firewood, eh? Kaatsheuvel (http://tjerklangelaar.nl/skating/Locations/location.php?name=Kaatsheuvel) seems to be a nice place for cross-country ice skating (http://tjerklangelaar.nl/skating/Tracks/track.php?index=0089) and theme parks (http://www.efteling.nl), also known for its shoe museum. We'll make sure we give our lads plenty of adventure and foot-slogging. I'm not sure we'll be able to get enough skates for the 1st Armored Brigade. On a more serious note, the park is only an oblong shape 3,500 hectares in area which would likely be cleared most effectively by gathering a corps' artillery battalions and rocket batteries within range and pounding the ground until nothing was living therein. Do you have any plans for involvement of the adjacent suburban lowland areas? Also specify how large an operation you had expected in this area. It looks to be regimental or battalion-sized at best.

2. Belgian and Luxembourgian province Ardennes - Special Operations/Forces warfare, securing small parts of the Ardennes.
Why is this limited to special ops/forces? Presumably because of forestation? We believe that special ops should provide 'skirmish line' if there was a stasis or standoff to the heavy units, or they could act to penetrate deep areas behind an intense forward edge of battle area of heavy units. Special forces could provide shaping operation or security operation, but there should be provisions for heavy forces in area of operations, either providing major shaping operation or decisive operation for main objectives. Special ops could be also trying to thwart or hamper heavy forces, which might be test of effectiveness in irregular antiarmor and antipersonnel roles.

Course 3: Climate Training "Hot Whiteout"

Listeneisse has little practical operational experience with extreme weather training. We would likely commit battalion-level forces at maximum to each of these. While ostensibly designed for 'all weather' environments, major weapons systems, vehicles and equipment need to be thoroughly double-checked before operating in extreme environments. Our soldiers will have to experience the environment for themselves once they get there.

1. Desert training, Andalucia, Spanish province - Desert/ Heat battles
We presume the Tabernas desert area of Almería? At approx. 250,000 ha (though we possibly must exclude 11,625 ha of national park if we are not to intrude upon protected habitat). Far larger than Dutch province above. Could you provide mission and objectives? We note the helicopter base at Armilla Air Base, near Granada, and the Alcantarilla paradrop school. We have air mobile troops that could operate out of here, if there is to be simulated initial deployment into the area of operations. Would it be best to wait for hotter time of year, or do you with to have 'autumnal desert' operation -- dealing with arid conditions without extreme temperatures. If you want to wait for next summer, we might want to push this back to be the last exercise held.

2. Snow training, Northern Norway - Snow survival battles
Presume training in Tromsø-Nordkapp area? Would this be solely land-based, or also require arctic marine navigation (small boat operations)? Also advise whether you will be delaying this exercise for dead-of-winter, or conduct now in the more 'temperate' fall. It's practically balmly there now. We could commit battalion of Royal Marines, if given time to prepare. It might be good to hold off on this with regard to other operations beforehand.

3. Austrian and Swiss Province Alps - Alpine Infantry and Mountain expeditions/patrolsSame issues as above, re: delay of exercise to more appropriate cold-weather climate. It might also be seen as a follow-on to Friesland and Dutch exercises, as suggested. Forces might rebase towards mountains and train for upcoming Alpine operations with exercises to adjust to the higher altitudes. Other forces can be withdrawn following earlier exercises.

We commend you for having a rather extensive and aggressive set of goals to accomplish with these exercises. Let us know if we can assist with logistical planning and operational scenario development.

OOC: All accepted, I don't have the time now to write extensive replies, because I'm at school now. also, Listeneisse, I'm still writing up the storylines for them, but I hav esome plans for those exercises. I now the Drunense Duinen is a relatively small area, but I'm planning a sort of escape training. remember, Van Luxemburg is a man-made copy of Europe, so not all things are correct. I was not expecting so many signups for this exercise, so i have to make a somewhat larger plan. therefore, after this post, I'm not accepting any more signups. thanks.

Nation__________________ Population____GDP per capita_ Defense Budget_
The Maccabees........... 4,939 Million...$22,885.17... $43,452.2 Billion
The Vuhifellian States.. 2,254 Million...$35,520.72... $13,851.2 Billion
Triancia................ 2,601 Million...$31,454.78... $10,596.7 Billion
Wingarde.................. 239 Million...$16.444.26...... $290.6 Billion
Spizania.................. 244 Million... $8,328.36...... $151.1 Billion
Listeneisse............... 168 Million...$25,617.75...... $103.9 Billion
________________________________________________________________________
Total....................7,046 Million...$25,640.22*.. $26,348.5 Billion

Van Luxemberg............1,351 Million...$25,002.77.... $3,040.1 Billion

* Average GDP per capita

The Kingdom of Listeneisse makes note that four of the nations participating are of continental-scale, with populations measured in the billions and military budgets in the trillions of dollars.

We have also noted GDP per capita. While it does not directly reflect military quality, it may reflect average pay grades in each military, the relative amount of dollars invested per individual in military service, or other economic or technological scales of the country' military capability.

Listeneisse Force Assessment

We are still devising latest TO&E for Listeneisse. From this, and from clarification of the joint exercise parameters, we can confirm a final Order of Battle.

We will likely be sticking to original assessments as to ground force numbers (Royal Army, Royal Marines, Royal Foresters and Grail Templars), upwards of 30,000, probably closer to 40,000.

Royal Air Force personnel perhaps 5,000 to 10,000 (maximum), with 200-600 aircraft, and possibly as many as 100 UAVs. Much depends on basing; does not include strategic air transports, which would remain based out of Listeneisse, but would include tactical and medium aircraft and helos for operations, plus tankers and airborne early warning.

Naval forces will likely be an additonal 10,000 to 15,000 more. Expected fleet size: 2 Fleet Carriers (CVs), 6 Amphibious Assault Carriers (2 LHDs, 4 LPDs), 8 Missile Destroyers (DDGs), 2 Littoral Attack Destroyers (DDL), and a squadron of 8 Nuclear Attack Submarines (SSNs); 32 (or more) additional support ships, and 4 (or more) leased cruise ships for troop transport -- 62 or more ships total. 150 - 300 aircraft, depending on continental naval air basing.

Overall force mix therefore will be at least 45,000 and estimated no greater than 65,000, 62-75 ships, and between 350 - 1,000 aircraft (incl. fixed-wing, rotor and UAVs).

OOC: Had some time left at school so I could write up the story.

IC:
From: Van Luxemburgian Ministry of Defense
To: All Nations Involved

We greet you on this great day, a day we will announce the definitive plan for MILEX VL '05.

Introduction

The VLCDF are the Van Luxemburgian Civil Defence forces, used to simulate an Enemy, sometimes in cooperation with Foreign Forces or the Van Luxemburgian Airforce/Navy. The Fictive Storyline of MILEX:
a Foreign enemy, classified as OPFOR (VLCDF), has invaded Van Luxemburgian lands. Van Luxemburgian and Foreign forces are about to strike back. OPFOR has limited abilities and is not the most modern armies, but can pack a punch with their 8 million soldiers (at least). here follows the Order of Battles fought, remember, all forces will need to move towards the battles, as we will not fight 2 battles at once.

Battle 1: Tabernas Desert, Andalucia - Desert/Heat Battles

A while ago, OPFOR invaded Andalucia, by landing at the independent province Gibraltar. the force was not big, but had Airsupport from about 100 Mirage 2000-5's. they had no armour with them, altough VAB, VBL and AML 60/90 vehicles supported the landing. some days later our force moved out of Madrid to intercept them in the Tabernas desert. try to expel OPFOR from the Tabernas desert

Battle 2: Gulf of Lyon - Naval Battle

OPFOR has been harassing tankers inbound for the navy port of Toulon, Southern France. this has caused fuel shortage under Van Luxemburgian Navy units, but the units that still have fuel in theior tanks will mount an attack. There are 2 SD's in the port, of which one has serious fuelshortage and can't move. it also has it's aircraft removed for revising, but the weapons onboard are ready. The other weapons of the Van Luxemburgian Navy you have are:
1 CVN (VLS "Reutte") Perpignan-Class Carrier, includes Rafale M fighters.
4 DDG, Bordeaux-Class Stealth Destroyer
7 FFG, Marseille-Class Stealth Frigate
3 SSN, Seawolf-Class Submarine Nuclear
also included are several Foreign ships, which supposedly have been refueled when they arrived in Toulon.

OPFOR:
1 CV (OFS "Canadia") Ex-Van Luxemburgian Navy Charles-de-Gaulle-Class carrier
3 SSN, Van Luxemburgian Navy Amethyste-Class Submarines
3 FFG, Ex-Van Luxemburgian Navy Georges-Leygues-Class Frigates
5 DDG, Ex-Van Luxemburgian Navy Cassard-Class Destroyers
plus Foreign units.

try to keep off OPFOR and eventually strike back and beat OPFOR.

Battle 3, Greece, Island-Hopping

OPFOR has, together with several foreign Forces, invaded the Greek islands Rhodos, Cyprus and Crete. a Battlegroup consisting of several nations was sent towards the area, coming from the Gulf of Lyon, to take the Islands back from OPFOR. Support has been sent in the form of the VLS "Reutte"
of the Van Luxemburgian Marine Nationale. other support:
10 DDG, Bordeaux-Class Stealth Destroyer
2 LPD, Mistral-Class Dock landing ship
and several LCM's, HLCAC's.

OPFOR:
10 MRTP "33 Naval patrol ships, together with 2 LCM's, several APC's and armoured vehicles.

Battle 4, Ardennes, Spec-ops Warfare

Today, you will be dropped off in a blinded helicopter somewhere in the Ardennes. the only thing you get is a map and your position. you don't know who your enemies are and who your friends. this should open the ability to learn how to find an enemy without knowing any position and closing Fieldalliances. all get a Eagle IV or Humvee, anything of equivalent size is welcome. the fighting ends when one group is "destroyed". no OPFOR here.
Van Luxemburgian Special Service Rainbow will handle this case for Van Luxemburg.

Battle 5, The Drunense Duinen, SAR Operations

3 weeks ago, OPFOR captured a multinational reconaissance unit in the Drunense Duinen. now, the unit has escaped and is trying to make it's way towards Gilze-Rijen AFB, a Van Luxemburgian Airforce Base. OPFOR has started Search Operations and is trying to locate the unit by reconaissance in the area and patrolling in the Drunense Duinen, possibly together with a foreign enemy. the Multinational Force at Gilze-Rijen also started SAR operation sin the area, and tries to rescue the reconaissance unit. this operation is over when the Reconaissance is rescued and safely back at Gilze-Rijen or all of them are shot.
OPFOR:
20 AMX-30 MBT
2 Mirage 2000-5
1 Gazelle AT helicopter
1 Super Puma
several APC's
+ possible Foreign Units

Multinational Force:
30 Rafale
10 Mirage 2000-5
7 JK-H2 (Modern equivalent to AH6 Littlebird)
10 NH-90
3 Tiger Attack helicopters
20 VBCI
+ Foreign Units

Battle 6, Western Bank of the River, Hamburg

2 days ago, OPFOR invaded a piece of land just West of Hamburg. they have dug-in, but have not yet had the time to build minefields. they ahve used their Natural Surroundings to hide themselves, and have armoured support, aswell as airsupport from an improvised airfield about a kilometer of 2 inland.
today, VLAAI forces, aswell as foreign units will invade the piece of land, at 0600 hours in the morning. their goal is to reach and capture the improvised airfield. they will be deployed by the force that accompanied us earlier in Greece.
OPFOR:
100 AMX-30 MBT
15 Super Puma
5 Gazelle
several APC's
9 Mirage 2000-5's
+ possible foreign support

Battle 7, Alps

It's winter. the remainign forces from OPFOR are now on the gates of the Alps, trying to cross at the Brennerpass. you're in Southern Tirol, Italy and your goal is precisely the same, capture the other side of the mountains. the only way to cross the Alps with heavy Material is the Brennerpass, but Infantry can move through the mountains. if one of the two parties reaches the other side, they have won this round.
OPFOR:
50 AMX-30 MBT
2 Super Puma,
1 Gazelle
Several APC's
+ Possible Foreign Support

Battle 8, Northern Norway

it's winter. OPFOR Forces crossed the Finnish-Norwegian Border in the Finnmark region as their last breath. you now have arrived from Oslo and will have to survive and do the last battle with OPFOR.
OPFOR has Foreign support.


(OOC: this is my plan, please feel free to comment on it. I will show a sattelite image before each battle, and show the location of OPFOR and Multinational Troops. okay things I want to know are:
1. what does you nation send precisely?
(Number of troops, weaponry)
2. do you think each Battle will need to be fought in a different thread?
thanks.)

(OOC: Ah, thanks, Listeneisse. only thing I miss is:
What tanks are you using?
what Aircraft are you using?
also:
The Macabees isn't 32 Million, it is 4.939 Billion
and following NSTracker:
Defense: R$43,452,176,428,584.01, 38% of Budget
GDP Per Capita: R$23,152.02

ooc: Correction on The Macabees (vs. "The Maccabees") made above.

TO&E to follow.

This is a list of what is expected to be dispatched for the exercise.

Kingdom of Listeneisse Expeditionary Force (KLEF) (40,300)
KLEF HQ (500)
4th Mech Div (15,500)
1st Armored Bde (5,500)
1st Air Mobile Division (10,500)
1st Regmt, 2nd Artillery Brigade (2,000)
1st Field Artillery Regiment, Missile (1,500)
1st Armored Cavalry Squadron (1,000)
1st Theater Defense SAM Battalion (300)
3rd Tactical Air Defense Battery (300)
1 Royal Marine Battalion (800)
2 Royal Marine Battalion (800)
3 Royal Marine Battalion (800)
Royal Guards Battalion, Knights of the Temple of the Holy Grail (800)

Heavy Equipment
308 MBTs - M1A2
300 IFVs - M2A3
69 IFV ATGM Systems - M3A3
180 HV ATGM Systems - HMMWV/LOSAT (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/losat/)
192 LAV Systems - LAV-III
144 SP Howitzers, 155mm - AS90
120 SP Mortars, 120 mm - M1064
54 SP MLRS Systems - M270A1
108 Towed Howitzers, 105mm
36 SP Tactical SAM Systems - Stormer Starstreak SP HVM (http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/aad/aad_shvm.htm)
36 SP Operational SAM Systems - SLAMRAAM - HMMWV/AMRAAM (AIM-120C) (http://www.army-technology.com/projects/surface-launched/)
24 Theater SAM Systems - M983 10-ton truck-mounted PAC-3 (http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/program/patriot.htm)
36 NBC Recon Vehicles - LM9945 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9610096&postcount=22)
6 RC Minefield Clearing Vehicles - M1 Abrams Panther II (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/panther.htm)
6 Bridgelayers - Wolverine (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/wolverine.htm), plus girder and ribbon bridging.
150 Light Transport Helicopter - UH-60L
Misc. recon & command vehicles, ammo carriers, tankers, trucks, ambulances, etc.

Royal Air Command - comprised of Royal Air Force of Listenseisse (RAFL), Royal Navy of Listeneisse (RNL) and Royal Marines of Listeneisse (RML) land-based air assets (10,000)
KLEFAF HQ (600)
KLEFAF OPS (Base & Security Personnel) (1,000)
7 Fighter-Interceptor Squadrons (1,400) - 84 Eurofighter Typhoon (http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/ef2000/)
7 Fighter Squadrons (1,400) - 84 F-16D
5 Ground Attack Squadrons (1,000) - 120 AH-64D Longbow
2 Reconnaissance Helicopter Squadrons (400) - 48 OH-58D
4 Heavy Transport Helicopter Squadrons (800) - 48 Heavy Helos
2 Airborne Refueling Squadrons (400) - 24 Tankers
1 Electronic Warfare Squadron (200) - 12 "Kites" ("Growler"-equivalent)
1 Airspace Command Squadron (200) - 12 AWACS
2 Special Operations Squadrons (400) - 24 SpecOps Helos
1 ASW Squadron (200) - 12 ASW Helos
1 Airborne Mine Countermeasures Squadron (200) - 12 AMCM Helos
1 Airsea Rescue Squadron - 12 Rescue/Medivac Helos
3 UAV Ground Attack Squadrons (600) - 120 ATGM UAVs ["Predator"-equivalent]
2 UAV Tactical Reconnaissance Squadrons (400) - 48 Tactical Recon UAVs
1 UAV Strategic Reconnaissance Squadron (200) - 12 Strategic Recon UAVs
1 Light Transport Wing (200) - 48 Small Jet/Turboprop/Prop
Over 260 heavy transport aircraft, and hundreds of other aircraft and helicopters will remain based in Listeneisse supporting the operation.

KLEF Task Force - Royal Navy of Listeneisse (RNL) surface, sea-based air and submarine forces (20,546)
2 Aircraft Carriers, Conventional (CV) - RNL Galahad, Parzival
2 Amphibious Assault Ship, Heavy (LHD) w/ 3 Landing Hovercraft - RNL Pellinore, Palomides
4 Amphibious Assault Ship (LPD) w/ 1 Landing Hovercraft, 4 Light Helos - RNL Lamorak, RNL Dornar, RNL Safer, RNL Segwarides
11 Destroyer, Guided Missile (DDG), w/ 1 ASW/AMCM Helo
2 Destroyer, Littoral (DDL), w/ 1 ASW/AMCM Helo
1 Destroyer (DD), w/ 1 ASW/AMCM Helo
8 Attack Submarines, Nuclear (SSN)
4 Mine Countermeasures (MCM) Ships
10 Logistics Support Ships (RO-RO/LO-LO)
9 Fast Sealift Ships (RO-RO)
13 Fleet Container Vessels
2 Fleet Oilers
Fleet Ammunition Ship
Fleet Combat Stores Ship
Submarine Tender

2 Carrier Air Wings one on RNL Galahad, Parzival each with:
2 Fighter-Attack Squadrons (400) - 24 F/A-18E
1 Airborne Early Warning (AEW) Squadron (200) - 4 AEW Aircraft
1 ECM Ground Strike Squadron (200) - 8 ECM/Ground Strike Aircraft ("Growler"-equivalent)
1 Naval Air Refueling Squadron (200) - 6 Airborne Refuelers
1 Naval Attack Squadron (200) - 24 Naval Attack Helos [AH-64D Longbow]
1 Support Helicopter Squadron (400) - 6 Heavy Helos [MH-53], 6 Light Helos [UH-60]

2 Marine Assault Air Wing - carried aboard the RNL Pellinore, Palomides
1 Naval Attack Squadron (200) - 8 Naval Attack Helos [AH-64D Longbow]
1 Heavy Transport Squadron (200) - 12 Heavy Helos [MH-53]
1 Light Transport Squadron (200) - 12 Light Helos [UH-60]

Total Forces: 70,876

Apologies, but as you can see the number for committed RNL personnel are slightly larger than upper anticipated limit. Chalk it up a miscalculation of the complements aboard the carriers. Task Force personnel will be sea-based, so this should only effect if debarking at port. Total force, esp. air-land force, is still well-below parameters set for 100,000 troop limit.

We respectfully reserve the right to tailor force additionally depending on mission specifics. We have a bit less than 30,000 in a 'buffer' in case a few last-minute forces need to be tossed in to mix. Anticipate significant additional base and logistics personnel, especially for Air Force.

(accepted, Listeneisse, but can you specify the types of vehicles you're using? e.g. Challenger 2 MBT's, Warrior 3 IFV's....)

Okay, I'll be starting the 1st Battle soon, only thing I need to know is:
1. should we start each battle in a new thread?
2. will each nations pick sides before each battle? or are you OK with me doing that?

thanks alot in advance.

[OOC:

1. Personally, each battle, or more accurately each group of exerices, would be a lot better organized on a thread of each, because it would be a lot less confusing, but alas, either way is fine with me; the former being prefered, however.

2. I don't care what side I'm on.]

OOC: Tag. I'll post later about the Wingardian elements participating in the wargames. VL, as for your questions:

- Battles should be carried out in this topic if they're not simultaneous (hopefully). This whole RP would have a total of nine threads otherwise, and that may upset the mods. Besides, that'd be many threads to suscribe to. :p

- Also, I'd like to be able to choose which side I'm on, if that's not a problem.

OOC: Why scared of my W-33s slaughtering yours? :p
Anyway seriously i agree with WIngarde although everyoen shoudl post in bold what area their posting about at the start of their post

SO Van you train large numbers of soldiers? Because looking at your training
regiment that is what it appears to be. Maybe we could combine our training, Our mass forces training, and my skilled few persons training, It could be very profitable.

OOC: Dammit, Spiz, it's not W-33, but WF-33! :p

And TBA, please discuss that elsewhere. It's not related to the wargames.

OOC:Wargames....What in the hell is that. The Black agents run a training program, One for the most elite of any nation.

Raven corps:

This was a chance to prove your men are as good as you say they are. Before real ordnance drops on their head.

It's one thing to put soldiers through training. It's another to see how they do in the field.

However, the exercise is closed at this point.

Perhaps you could act as observers. You might even still be able to learn a thing or two.

"Even the bravest soldier can be killed by a bomb." -- Erwin Rommel

I do not believe you have ever had the chance to see my men in action. with 3000 men- Raven corps Secuity forces erased 3 million lives. Now we are a compnay that thrives on war. We sell bio-weapons, I do not see the reason behind me semding men to go " Show-off ". And be careful about trying to drop bombs on my head- My assets are place in other countries and attacking my assets will be just like attacking other nations. Not to mention by hitting certain areas would release some very powerful bio-weapons. Making the person who you just bombed very unhappy. But you can log an official compliant with our corporate HQ located in Terra City-Willink.

To: Raven Corps, Terra City-Willink
From: Kingdom of Listeneisse Government Legal Services

Dear Sirs,

You are hereby notified you are required to cease and desist interfering with the military exercises of the forces of the Kingdom of Listeneisse and other nations being hosted by the Grand Duchy of Van Luxemberg. Elsewise, the Kingdom of Listeneisse will be forced to seek injunctive relief against your corporation.

As a corporation, you can and will be brought to litigation if you continue to advertise your services on a channel reserved for official government communications.

While monitoring an unsecure channel is not a violation of law, soliciting once informed of disinterest is if an injunction is obtained, and interference with a reserved military channel certainly is.

Since your assets are located in many foreign nations, any acts of actual violence or threats of violence will result in siezure of assets and bank accounts of your corporation in full cooperation with international authorities. Siezures made by probable cause of criminal action on the part of your corporation will be held in escrow subject to criminal and/or civil litigation, to be returned after settlement on a pro rata schedule, minus legal fees.

Siezures made preemptive of any actual attacks will be forfeited to the Kingdom of Listeneisse and any other victims of crimes, to make good any actual losses.

(ooc: i.e., Either participate as professional observers, get VL to waive the fact that you're late to the show to bring a fighting force, or quit spamming the thread as a non-participant. If you want to actually disrupt the situation IC, expect other nations to respond as needed. Bragging about how cool your nation is doesn't cut the mustard. You'll have to prove you actually know how to run professional ops. Anyone can be a mass-murderer; being a soldier is something entirely different.)

(OOC: Okay, those are wargames, and the forces I'm training are CIVILIAN Defence Forces, together with some parts of the Van Luxemburgian Military. thanks, List., and about the separate threads, to make it less confusing, I'll start a new thread for the whole training, and not for each separate battle. that thread will be closed. and as far I've seen, Spiz and Win want to choose their sides, and Mac doesn't care. I have the Sat-image up for the 1st battle, Andalucia, when I start the thread. I have a day off from school today, so expect a lot of activity from me.

To: Raven Corps, Terra City-Willink
From: Kingdom of Listeneisse Government Legal Services

Dear Sirs,

You are hereby notified you are required to cease and desist interfering with the military exercises of the forces of the Kingdom of Listeneisse and other nations being hosted by the Grand Duchy of Van Luxemberg. Elsewise, the Kingdom of Listeneisse will be forced to seek injunctive relief against your corporation.

As a corporation, you can and will be brought to litigation if you continue to advertise your services on a channel reserved for official government communications.

While monitoring an unsecure channel is not a violation of law, soliciting once informed of disinterest is if an injunction is obtained, and interference with a reserved military channel certainly is.

Since your assets are located in many foreign nations, any acts of actual violence or threats of violence will result in siezure of assets and bank accounts of your corporation in full cooperation with international authorities. Siezures made by probable cause of criminal action on the part of your corporation will be held in escrow subject to criminal and/or civil litigation, to be returned after settlement on a pro rata schedule, minus legal fees.

Siezures made preemptive of any actual attacks will be forfeited to the Kingdom of Listeneisse and any other victims of crimes, to make good any actual losses.

(ooc: i.e., Either participate as professional observers, get VL to waive the fact that you're late to the show to bring a fighting force, or quit spamming the thread as a non-participant. If you want to actually disrupt the situation IC, expect other nations to respond as needed. Bragging about how cool your nation is doesn't cut the mustard. You'll have to prove you actually know how to run professional ops. Anyone can be a mass-murderer; being a soldier is something entirely different.)




Secret IC:

From : The Agency
To: Kingdom of Listeneisse


Now,now. Raven corps has not done anything wrong, they did not advertise anything. We did and seizing his assets would not be wise. We ask you to please check your facts before punishing him for stating something. Van Luxemburg has a training program for mass troops, we have one for only the most elite of a nation. I was asking if Van Luxemburg would like to combine some of our training programs. Please Relax... your blood pressure is rising.

IC Secret Reply:

To: The Black Agents
From: The Kingdom of Listeneisse Government Legal Services

You presume too much. Our blood pressure cannot rise, as we are a no more than a bunch of litigious but heartless bastards the King employees to take care of distractions from the Royal agenda.

Cheers,

GLS MoD Office

IC Secret Reply:

To: The Black Agents
From: The Kingdom of Listeneisse Government Legal Services

You presume too much. Our blood pressure cannot rise, as we are a no more than a bunch of litigious but heartless bastards the King employees to take care of distractions from the Royal agenda.

Cheers,

GLS MoD Office


OOC: what in the..... whats this suppose to be. If thats an offical response. it sucks

OOC: here's the Thread: MILEX VL '05 (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=448307)

OOC: Alright, enough. Take the off-topic elsewhere, please. TBA, those proposals have no place here: either create a specific thread or send telegrams to Van Luxemburg.

Anyway, should I post my forces here on in the other topic (MILEX VL '05)?

well, by now you've already done it, so I can't say no. btw, please check your Wingarde Aerospace, you've got business (Altough I highly doubt you will accept anything else than my order)

[OOC: I have about one thousand five hundred men, so I'll have to abstain from this battle, because simply I don't have enough men to successfully survive here. Nonetheless, I'll be participating in battle 1, 2 and 3 of course 1, and all of course 2 and 2 and 3 of course 3. Unless, I can increase the number of men deployed for what I stated in this thread.]

(OOC: somewhat later, we did change it to that you could follow any of the battles indicated, and the Battle in Andalusia will start from tomorrow, GMT +1at 16.00 hours. it will probably take 3 RL days, or longer or shorter. you may ofocurse choose in what battle you participate in. maybe a job for your Foreign SS is the battle in the Ardennes and in the Drunense Duinen)