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This is The Dictatorship of Tooky. We have a opened international selling of long-range percision missles. Currently we only produce one type of missle.
This is the AGM-143 Raptor.

It has a range of 45 miles and can target things such as ships, bunkers, buildings, and hard and soft land targets.
Cost:$1.5 million for 130



For those of you who want technical details:
The AGM-142 weighs 3000 lbs. It is 190 inches long, 21 inches in diameter, has a wing span of 78 inches, and is powered by a solid propellant rocket motor. The missile has a range in excess of 50 nautical miles. Warheads and seekers are modular and allow for four missile configurations. The AGM-142 can be assembled with either a 750-pound blast fragmentation warhead or an I-800 penetration 770-pound warhead, and can employ either a television or an imaging infrared seeker.
Specifications
AGM-143 Raptor
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Missions Offensive counterair, interdiction, suppression enemy air defense, naval anti-surface warfare
Targets Mobile soft, fixed hard, fixed soft, maritime surface
Service Air Force
Program status Production
First capability 1992
Guidance method Television and imaging infrared (man- in-the-loop)
Weight 3,000 lbs / 1,360 kg 2500 lb
Warhead Weight 750 lbs / 340 kg 1000 lb
Length 15ft 10in / 4.8 meters 167 in
Diameter 1ft 9in / 0.533 meters 21 in
Wingspan 60 in horizontal
Range 45 miles / ~75 km 150 km
Quantity 130
Acquisition unit cost $1.5 million

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Stop bumping, you only need to bump a thread when it gets to the third or fourth page on the forum. Bumping once an hour is often considered excssive.

ok... im new to this forum srry. Also, how can i find this topic if it goes farther back in pages and i cant find it? is there a replies to my topics page or something?

multiple things...

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3) Go to the top right of the thread and click on Thread Tools and then Subscribe to Thread
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any buyers? no?




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ill take 33. :sniper:

I can list a few reason why you're not going to get a lot of people buying. the first is that there are the huge storefronts where they can buy missiles, planes and aircraft carriers to launch them off of. Some storefronts will even construct the shipyards to build the aircraft carriers if you ask and pay for it. The next is that versus ships its useless, it doesn't have the bang or speed to penetrate the defeneses or armor of a Super Dreadnought or even some the smaller ship classes, and versus land targets it offers nothing special and most people would rather RP a generic (even unnamed) missile with similiar performance then buy some.

I can list a few reason why you're not going to get a lot of people buying. the first is that there are the huge storefronts where they can buy missiles, planes and aircraft carriers to launch them off of. Some storefronts will even construct the shipyards to build the aircraft carriers if you ask and pay for it. The next is that versus ships its useless, it doesn't have the bang or speed to penetrate the defeneses or armor of a Super Dreadnought or even some the smaller ship classes, and versus land targets it offers nothing special and most people would rather RP a generic (even unnamed) missile with similiar performance then buy some.

very good points, Scellia...


Cost:$1.5 million for $130
What the hell does this mean???

That means you can get 130 Greenbacks for $1.5 Million. :p But on on topic, most people won't buy any of these as you're a small nation, and most people usually wait a while before selling precision missiles.

A natio as small as you're wouldn't have the man power to produce enough missiles.

A natio as small as you're wouldn't have the man power to produce enough missiles.
Not really true. It doesn't take that many people to make these things, a few thousand at most. Anyway, this is NS. Who cares how big you are before you can make something? If you follow that logic, then he couldn't make a simple MBT, which is more complicated than these missiles.

If everyone said "This is NS! Who cares how big I am!" then 1-day old nations would be competing with 4 year-old nations. That's just not really... Right.

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If everyone said "This is NS! Who cares how big I am!" then 1-day old nations would be competing with 4 year-old nations. That's just not really... Right.
Young nations can easily compete with larger nations. And its not so much a question of "can I build them?" as of "can I crew and maintain them."

Young nations have no chance when challening older nations. And with nations with 5 Million people and a budget of less than $20 Billion, it most definantly is a question of "Can I build them?".

Young nations have plenty of good chances. For example, in Vulcan Campaign, my fleet is holding its own against both Astartes vessels (courtesy of Snake Eaters) and Elven ships (Arenumberg). Admittedly this is FT, but the principle is the same, and even more so in economics. If someone is PAYING you to make something, it's much more likely that you're going to be able to build that something quite easily. For example, if someone bought a cruiser from my SF, a sizeable percentage of my payment would go towards the raw materials and facilities to construct the thing.

First, im sorry, the 1.5 and 130 thing was supposed to mean 1.5 mill for 130 missles.
Second, to skycapt. think about the size of these missles. The thing is 15 feet. Its not a nuke or anything. I think i would be able to build it, mainly because i have a strong economy and one of the older nations in my region lent me a large task force to build it, not to mention the other ppls argue ments.

Finally, to Captain Skeets, order Confirmed. 33 missles ready and awaiting shipment. Payement is $4 million. Missles will be sent on recievment of payment.

First, im sorry, the 1.5 and 130 thing was supposed to mean 1.5 mill for 130 missles.
Second, to skycapt. think about the size of these missles. The thing is 15 feet. Its not a nuke or anything. I think i would be able to build it, mainly because i have a strong economy and one of the older nations in my region lent me a large task force to build it, not to mention the other ppls argue ments.

Finally, to Captain Skeets, order Confirmed. 33 missles ready and awaiting shipment. Payement is $4 million. Missles will be sent on recievment of payment.

if 130 missiles = 1.5 Million
why does 33 missiles = 4 million?

O jeuss, im very sorry. I cannot seem to type this week. I meant $400,000.

O jeuss, im very sorry. I cannot seem to type this week. I meant $400,000.
your pricing these missiles at $11,000 - $13,000
that just is not realistic. Old Sparrow air to air missiles cost $160,000 in todays dollars, and they are at this point 1970s technology (these Sparrows are updated versions). You have got to raise your price.

As a guide, the real world AGM-142 costs in the range of $1,020,000 in todays dollar, more than 85 times what you are listing.

what was it $1.5 million for 130 of them.