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The new M-12 "Battlefortress" tank is a highly mobile and efficiant tank it's quality worth the price. It is a fairly long tank to incorporate the 2 30. m.m. GAU turrets that sit infront of the main turret but beside the driver and co-driver. A 50. caliber machine gun sits on the turret for the co-gunner. On the back of the turret, there is a platform with a mounted 7.62 M240 machine gun, for the loader who only overseas the operation of the auto-loading system in case it malfunctions (rare). With the small but excedingly powerful and fuel efficiant ethanol- powered jet turbine engine, it allows for more room in the tank for more equipment and fuel. The armour is equal on all sides for added protection. With the sloped and light but strong Iridium reinforced Titanium alloy armour, most rounds will bounce off the tank. It's not amphibious, We tried testing with it and it sinks like a rock! With all that in mind, it lives up to its name.

Armament:
1 155 m.m. howitzer, 1 30 m.m. "AA" GAU (seperate turret) cannon, 2 50. caliber (gunner/commander) machineguns, 3x6 smoke dischargers.

Ammuntition
45 155 m.m., 4,000 30 m.m. GAU, 1500 50. caliber (each), 6,000 M240.

length:21.76 meters
width:10.423 meters
height (to Turretroof):4 meters
ground clearance:0.563 meters
weight:90,234 Kg.
power to weight ratio: 35 HP/tonne
Engine:1 GGE ethonal powered jet-turbine, 2100 HP at 3,000 RPM
Maximum road speed:75 Km. (hour)
Maximum range: 500 KM.
Fuel capacity: 2000 Lit.
Armour type: Iridium reinforced Titanium alloy
armour: 145 m.m.
NBC system: Air purifying unit
Night vision: Infared for all gunners and drivers
Price:4,000,000$ (If this is too high or low please tell me)

We here in Mwarto love the new tank and would like to order about 1,000 of them. we will wire you the money upon confirmation of the sale. thank you in andvance.
General Lucifer Morningstar
Mwartonian Armed Forces

$8000 US? Big mistake, the M1A2 Abrams usually costs around $1.5 Million US. The T-72 costs around $1 million US. This sounds more like $4 million US. And there is no way this thing weighing nearly 60 tons will move 85km. Think closer to 50 kph.

$8000 US? Big mistake, the M1A2 Abrams usually costs around $1.5 Million US. The T-72 costs around $1 million US. This sounds more like $4 million US. And there is no way this thing weighing nearly 60 tons will move 85km. Think closer to 50 kph.

I concurr

Replacement cost for the Abrams is between $5-$8 Million USD, you're gonna run higher cost because Iridium and titanium are harder to machine(especially Iridium) then almost all other metals, I doubt most rounds would bounce off.

You do realize those 30mms will do jack squat to a tank, right? The only reason they work so well on the A-10 is because they're attacking the top armor.

You do realize those 30mms will do jack squat to a tank, right? The only reason they work so well on the A-10 is because they're attacking the top armor.
Yes, but they will shred light IFVs/APCs and infantry, and even the T-72 can be penetrated by a 25mm SABOT if it in right place on the front and side armor and will be shreded from the rear.

The problem with a 30mm on a tank is that while it can shred APC and light IFV armour, it will do little against a tank's front or sides, which are the most likely since in many instances you are going to enter a frontal or flanking engagement anyways. There's simply no point in putting it in when something like a 120mm cannon / light cannon combo is already a possibility, that will do even better against not only APCs and IFVs, but tanks as well.

Mwarto your order is comfirmed. Yeah I just now noticed the price mistake, I had copied this from a rough draft I had before I did the research on it a long time ago, so sorry about the mix-up. But Mwarto, The price for your purchase is the same.

The reason for the 30 m.m. GAUs is because, armour no matter how strong, can only take so mutch rounds AT ONE TIME, if hit with enough rounds in a short period of time, the armour is likely to shatter at some point. The reason it works on the A-10 is because there is so much lead hitting one piece of armour in one second. BUt thats not really what was intended, what was found effective in tests was the ability to blast through obsticles, in other words an anti-structure weapon. The 155 m.m. main gun is meant for other armoured units but it is also very effective with structures as well, but you wouldn't want to waste ammunition on stuff like that.

To address the other issues, is the Iridium. Iridium is one of the densest metals on the periodic table. The reason depleted uranium works on an Abrahms is because it's so dense, but the only problem is if it shatters (unlikely) the pieces of depleted uranium can be inhaled and possibly cause canser. Plus Iridium is more dense than Uranium so you get more stoping power. And as in the general description, It has a layer of Titanium alloy on the outside to utilize its tensile strength. In this way it breaks up AP rounds because it's stronger than steal but is brittle, that's why it's backed by iridium, to keep it from breaking.
And there is a way to get it to 85 Km. It uses a relatively small (compared to aircraft) jet engine. It's powered by ethanol which is cheap and cheap to produce. The highly volatile exhaust turns a turbine twoards the back which is hooked up to the drive shaft, therefore you get tremendous horsepower.

The National Commonwealth Principal Force places an order for 25,000 units for a total of $50,000,000,000.

Thank you in advance.

OOC: You still have a number of issues.
An Ethnaol turbine might sound really good but in terms of fuel storage and power density ethanol isn't the best. A straight deisal or multifuel engine is generally a better choice, but it still won't give you just quite as much power as you would need. Your tank is also a bit light, a fully armoured 155mm turret is very very heavy as are the GAU-8s, you would be looking for a weight more in the 80ton range.

Gatling guns are hideously inefficent weapons that are inherrently inaccurate (hence why they are used on helos and planes they spray thier shots over afairly wide area). the GAU-8 might be useful as an AA weapon but for dealing with light vehicles and infnatry you would be better off with the much higher calibre secondary weapon you could mount for the same weight.

Aginst tanks you likely wouldn't be scoring more than one hit in the same in any one burst of fire

National commonwealth, your order is confirmed. I will investigate the weight description. Thankyou for the advice Strathdonia. The GAUs can fire at a fire rate of 2000 rounds per minute, that's about 30 rounds per second.

Now I wonder if someone would do a picture, as I need it for my RP...

Hmm, a 155mm howitzer...and two GAU cannons...each in a seperate turrent. Well not only do you need a driver and communications person in the tank, this tank you have created will need at least three gunners, if you were to make each GAU cannon fire un-concerted. You'd ned at least 6 men. ANd the fact that the tank will need plenty of ammunition storage place, fuel tank, and a ton of other odds and ends...this is just a big target sitting on the battle field.

I'd take this thing on with a couple of Bradlys and just flank your ass in this. :P

I would recommend a smaller tank, with something more like a 90mm than a 120. Just because its big and bad, doesn't mean its always going to win.

If you tried to flank it with Bradleys, all I'd have to do is swing the GAUs and blow those Bradleys to pieces. And yes it's a very big tank with a very poerful engine IE:the jet turbine.