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For all you people out there who dont wont to kill people, but wont to get a point across, we have the weapon for you. Intruducing..... ventum 4 enviromental bioweapon. engineered to not even register humans as targets, but targets everything else. with a single bomb you can turn a rich, vibrant, rainforest ranch with alot of life into a baron waste land within 2 days. the only thing that stays is humans and water, no food, trees, animals-nothing.

Specs are coming son but feel free to inquire about the new product.!

Jenrak would like to ask a few questions:

1) How does this work, exactly?
2) What kind of point would this be?
3) Would simple crowd control tear gas be just as effective?
4) Is efficiency factored into this (economy)?
5) What about trivial things such as stone or metal? Or sand?

Jenrak would like to ask a few questions:

1) How does this work, exactly?
2) What kind of point would this be?
3) Would simple crowd control tear gas be just as effective?
4) Is efficiency factored into this (economy)?
5) What about trivial things such as stone or metal? Or sand?


oh good questions...

1.How would it work- We use a form of cancer which attack trees, and other various forms of illness that attacks non-human subjects, And through genetic engineering we combined them. By enhancing that tree attacking quality of the cancer we have broadened its ability to attack certian trees- now it attacks anything with that has leaves- The animal illness was the most difficult part, humans geneticly have close relatives that made it engineering hard.

2. What kind of point would this be?- What ever you made it.

3.Would simple crowd control tear gas be just as effective?- If you are trying to control a population. This weapons is more along the lines of non-lethal siege weaponry.

4.Is efficiency factored into this (economy)?-please restate the question.

5.What about trivial things such as stone or metal? Or sand?- hence baron waste land. Nothing would be left alive accept the human population. everything else would die.

4.Is efficiency factored into this (economy)?-please restate the question.

4. What kind of benefit will this give to the economy? How can this aid a nation in a profit?

After Reviewing this Bio Weapon, the Corporation has deemed it unsuitable for our uses, upon capturing a Nation, the Organic matter is stripped bare by our Harvesters, and subsequently used in Various Genetic Projects such [Classified] However, used as a seige weapon, other countries may benefit its uses and we applaude your scientists on their ingenious developments.

The High Command

Thank you for your input Kraven.
Now to answer your question.

We have not yet seen it in action so we cant truly say what would be profitable to the user, But if used properly it will break civilizations, thus a takeover would be much more easily accomplished.

5.What about trivial things such as stone or metal? Or sand?- hence baron waste land. Nothing would be left alive accept the human population. everything else would die.
How would rocks, sand, or metal die? Or did I misread your response?

i meant that all that would be left would be sand, metal, and rock. waste land......

Greetings,
We here in Rolatia have mixed views. We do think it may be a good seige weapon. However, we are on the whole against it, as it is an environmental catastrophe and other de-moralising weapons may be better as the organic resources of the area will be obliterated, save humans
However, we do applaud your ingenuity in this weapon. It is a rather unique, and quite frankly extremely unexpected, weapon
Dr J Edwards,
Prime Minister of Rolatia

I think our target comsumer would be a slavary attack. You make somewhere uninhabitble and bam you got your self a starving nation, you take them, you feed them, you sell them.

Price for this weapons will start at

$100,000 a dose.

dose = 1 pint. = city wide effects

ViZion would be interested in purchasing a small amount for testing reasons. If we are pleased, we will be purchasing more. How much would it cost us for enough to use on, say, 100 square miles?

I think our target comsumer would be a slavary attack. You make somewhere uninhabitble and bam you got your self a starving nation, you take them, you feed them, you sell them.

Greetings again,
I see your point. That is a very controversial method, but there are countries out there who would be willing to use it. We here did not think of that possibility because we think slavery is the lowest form of invasion.
Nevertheless, I can see its applications. Like I have already stated, a very unique idea
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia

you can turn a rich, vibrant, rainforest ranch with alot of life into a baron waste land within 2 days.

I can do the same thing in 5 minutes with a few fuel air bombs and some napalm.

The whole Idea was not to kill people. naplam and fuel air bombs fry people crispy......

Yeah, but that kills the enemy. (:p) That, and the area stays alight for a while.

ViZion would be interested in purchasing a small amount for testing reasons. If we are pleased, we will be purchasing more. How much would it cost us for enough to use on, say, 100 square miles?
We are awaiting the answer to this...

The whole Idea was not to kill people. naplam and fuel air bombs fry people crispy......

Not if people understand that standing in a burning forest is a bad thing.

TO imported Vizion:

Thank you for your interest, a hundred sq mile test wouls require 2 doses dropped on either side of the area. And your purchase will be confirmed on reply.

Nice chemical but unfortunetely I won't get it because invading a barren wasteland would destroy the purpose of going to war for more land to feed my people
:D

TO imported Vizion:

Thank you for your interest, a hundred sq mile test wouls require 2 doses dropped on either side of the area. And your purchase will be confirmed on reply.
Good, thank you. We await the shipment. The $200,000 worth of payment is being wired now.

confirmed the shipment will be there soon.

Juumanistra is stunned that anyone would be stupid enough to even develop such a weapon, let alone export it. What's the medium of transmission? Logic points to it being aerosol, though confirmation would be nice. What, precisely, happens to the residual elements of the virus or bacteria after it clears out the initial target area? And, tying into the theory that it's aerosol, what's to keep it from spreading after the covering its inital target area? What if it mutates; given that it is already capable of annahilating most organic matter, isn't it only a matter of time before it develops the capability to infect humans?

If so much as a single square inch of Juumanistran territory is contaminated with this Ventum 4 of which Raven Corps has so idiotically placed on the market, the response will overwhelming.

[EDIT: OOC: For the record, this is one of the most godmoddish weapons I've ever seen. Why there has been so little condemnation, either OOC or IC, boggles me a bit. Or maybe everyone's already firing their Ignore Cannons.]

Juumanistra is stunned that anyone would be stupid enough to even develop such a weapon, let alone export it. What's the medium of transmission? Logic points to it being aerosol, though confirmation would be nice. What, precisely, happens to the residual elements of the virus or bacteria after it clears out the initial target area? And, tying into the theory that it's aerosol, what's to keep it from spreading after the covering its inital target area? What if it mutates; given that it is already capable of annahilating most organic matter, isn't it only a matter of time before it develops the capability to infect humans?

If so much as a single square inch of Juumanistran territory is contaminated with this Ventum 4 of which Raven Corps has so idiotically placed on the market, the response will overwhelming.

[EDIT: OOC: For the record, this is one of the most godmoddish weapons I've ever seen. Why there has been so little condemnation, either OOC or IC, boggles me a bit. Or maybe everyone's already firing their Ignore Cannons.]
OOC: I'm not going to reguard it as godmod, as it could turn into an interesting RP... *cough*original Acigoo wars*cough*

Your full force...... The agents in the weapon have a 3 week life span. And the easiest way to deliver the weapon is releasing it into a storm cloud. And the ability to mutate has been eleminated becuase once it does the original weapon agents will attack it. Now before you get your elf into a war you W I L L regret. Lets workon a little diplomacy..... I am a corporation money talks my little friend.

I can see it now a RL nation uses bioweapons...... other side....." You cant do that its GODMOD. hehe

OOC: As long as no one tries to use it IC on me I'll let them waste their money. Unless of course it is a pre-agreed upon plot device, which actually could be intersting to see and maybe help with relief efforts (though not play as I don't want to devastate large portions of my nation).

EDIT: Simply because something exists in RL in one form doesn't mean that it can be scaled up infinitely. Like lasers, we have lasers but we don't have a deathstars superlaser. This is a similar situation, we have some genetic manipulation tech, but at most we improve on the existing virus'. You could engineer one for a specific species of tree, but based on tre physiology it probably take weeks to months to kill the tree. IIRC most tree infection/diseases take a while to work, on the order of weeks to month for the really fast ones. Cancer like you discribes would take years if not decades to work, not only that but what one person can create to infect another can create a vaccine for.

I find it amassing that people put up more of a fight against this virus then any of my other ones. This is non-lethal, it is cheap and useable- My others are nation crippling, and expensive and people buy that stuff more then this.... amassing.

OOC: Cause this one looks slightly more realistic then the others, like a bio version of Agent Orange.

what is the point of this (besides the part about slavery starving ect)
1 it leaves the enire enemy army intact.
2 it cant destroy forts
3 that can just invade you or another country to feed the population

If you destroy any means of obtaining food for you population, you are forced to either give in to the users, or fall into cannibelism, or attack another nation( which is doomed because you can feed your soldiers. )

what is the point of this (besides the part about slavery starving ect)
1 it leaves the enire enemy army intact.
2 it cant destroy forts
3 that can just invade you or another country to feed the population
Well, keep in mind part of the economy, which supports the military, would be crippled, not to mention that their food and wood supply would be cut. Granted, if you attacked nations who reside in a desert, it would not have nearly the effect it would in, say, Italy or the Pacific North West...

From: Dr. Yukari Shigasegawa, Juumanistran Center for Disease Control
To: Raven Corps
Subject: Re: Ventum 4

At the behest of the President, the Juumanistran CDC has taken a look at the available information on Ventum 4 and echoes the fears of the Chief Executive, especially in the apparent absence of any kind of understanding about the nature of microbial life within the producer of this bioweapon.

You cannot, for instance, breed out mutation like it were a genetic trait. Mutations happen; they're part of the machinery of life, just as much as reproduction and evolution(and, in fact, go hand-in-hand with both). If the bacteria(we're assuming that, given you've said it has a lifespan, that it is a bactrum) has a three-week lifespan, how often does it reproduce? If it divides at least once a day, you're looking at least twenty generations elapsing over the course of the parent's lifespan. If the virus of sterile, how, precisely, do you create an initial batch in the first place? Assuming that it is not sterile, the CDC can only assume that mutation over the course of its life once released make the threat of mutation to affect humans a clear and present danger.

Simiarly, the spread of the agent beyond its original target area is guaranteed. Given that it is aerosol, if you were to insert it into a "rain storm" as you suggest(tangentially, how, precisely, is the Ventum 4 supposed to survive the twin perils of gravity and environment?), once it comes into contact with its feedstock, it will continue to spread until such time as it runs out of food(again, assuming that it is non-sterile, though it would spill over if it is sterile). Given that it can feast upon almost any organic matter, it would keep going until, quite literally, it ate everything. A true slate-wiper.

Now then, assuming you have managed to circumvent the laws of nature as they're understood to us, what would the effects of this virus be upon non-living organic matter and items made substantively of it? If it does everything you describe, Ventum 4 will eat every ounce of paper and petroleum it comes into contact with. Is this the case? And, if it is not, how, exactly, do you succeed in preventing it from happening?

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From: The Office of the President of Juumanistra
To: Raven Corps
Subject: re: Ventum 4

We would like to remind the Underground Weapons Company of the vast disparities in the size, wealth, and power of our respective states and that it should be the Raven Corps leery of saber-rattling, not the Remarkably Sane Dominion. Juumanistra has no plans to take any action against Raven Corps; if it wishes sell on the open market boneheaded bioweapons, that is this price of a market economy. However, as we have stated, should Ventum 4 ever be used against Juumanistra by any state or organization, Raven Corps will be held just as responsible as the perpetrators, for ignoring common sense and selling such a dangerous bioweapon.

[OOC: Several points:
ViZion: Yes, it could be interesting, but it depends wholly on the participants. But the weapon, as described, should be accorded little more respect or credibility as posts like "i n00k j00" or SCRAMjet rounds or nuclear-powered MT tanks. RC provides no real justification for how it does what it does or how it's capable of crossing so many species gaps without being the least bit harmful to humanity. What he claims it can do is great; simply asking people to rely on the miracle of NS Science and suspension of disbelief to make it work won't cut it.

RC: It's "amusing", not "amassing". Two totally different concepts. Refusal to spellcheck or is English a second language?]

[OOC: Several points:
ViZion: Yes, it could be interesting, but it depends wholly on the participants. But the weapon, as described, should be accorded little more respect or credibility as posts like "i n00k j00" or SCRAMjet rounds or nuclear-powered MT tanks. RC provides no real justification for how it does what it does or how it's capable of crossing so many species gaps without being the least bit harmful to humanity. What he claims it can do is great; simply asking people to rely on the miracle of NS Science and suspension of disbelief to make it work won't cut it.
OOC: lol, trust me, no need to tell me that, I know that. I've been involved in plenty of RP's using less-than-realistic things (most notably, Acigoo) in a modern-tech world. I am not saying everyone would agree and want to participate. I am simply stating that would would be grounds for an interesting RP. Keep in mind I've been RPing since June of '03... ;)

How is this better than simply using napalm? At least with Napalm you can selectively destroy targets, and you don't really risk it spreading to other countries (such as your own).

If you destroy any means of obtaining food for you population, you are forced to either give in to the users, or fall into cannibelism, or attack another nation( which is doomed because you can feed your soldiers. )
I said forts remember that they can have nukes and sometimes ayear supply of food(filtration system)

How is this better than simply using napalm? At least with Napalm you can selectively destroy targets, and you don't really risk it spreading to other countries (such as your own).
Because with napalm you kill people. And that's bad. :p

Monoth finds this weapon to be TOTALLY Abhorent in ALL of its implications, despite claims that it does not kill people, we fail to see how the people can survive with NO FOOD, and even sealed foodstocks will only last so long, definately not long enough for an invading nation to establish supply routes to the affected areas. Our other concerns include the total lack of any sort of control mechanism, this weapon is too unstable to be safely used in any way out side of total laboratory conditions. In accordance with recent policy on Biological and Chemical weapons, Mondoth will capture or destroy any shipment of this weapon when it reaches international waters. Raven Corps. is advised to destroy any of the disease now in existence and to burn any research pertaining to this weapon or face considerable trade sanctions and impositions.

To enforce Mondothian Policy, a Task force has been dispatched to international waters around Raven Corps territory.

Because with napalm you kill people. And that's bad. :p

So a quick death by napalm is worse than a slow and painful death by starvation?

Monoth finds this weapon to be TOTALLY Abhorent in ALL of its implications, despite claims that it does not kill people, we fail to see how the people can survive with NO FOOD
It gives them a fighting chance.


So a quick death by napalm is worse than a slow and painful death by starvation?
It gives them a fighting chance.....

international waters around Raven Corps territory.

He is located in at least 3 different nations....

RC provides no real justification for how it does what it does or how it's capable of crossing so many species gaps without being the least bit harmful to humanity

Aids is a human only illness, Our closest relative the ape can not get aids our hiv.

Hmmm, how good is the warrenty???

I think it would be more feasible it there was more of a failsafe on the weapon other then that.... Damn good job.

He is located in at least 3 different nations....


then three different task forces have been dispatched, one to every Raven Corps. Distribution center.


Aids is a human only illness, Our closest relative the ape can not get aids our hiv.
Might want to check your facts, Our closest genetic relative is the Chimpanzee (not the ape) and IIRC, chimps, apes and many other simians can get HIV from Humans.

also, AIDS isn't an illness its a disorder caused by the HIV virus. Illnesses take advantage of the weakened immune system that characterizes AIDS.

I dont care how it works...but all I wish is that a fail safe be developed...

We must urge Mondoth to cease these actions. He has not breached his sovereignty by selling weapons, nor has anyone else breached their own sovereignty by purchasing it. You, however, would be breaching the sovereign rights of Raven Corps, as well as those who have boughten the product, not to mention exiting your own sovereign rights, by attacking, blocking, or raiding these neutral, non-militant ships.

You would be wise to stand down your threats and let it pass. Not a single nation has threatened you, your allies, or anyone for that matter. Rather, nations are buying and selling these weapons. ViZion is purchasing these purely for controlled-environment testing at this time.

So, once again, we urge you to reconsider your course of action, before those actions cause a war that none of us want.

Thank you,

President Delain

I must agree with ViZion on this issue. By atacking those ships you would be violating the sovereign Rights of those nations, and that of Raven corps. Not to mention that be attacking a private companies assets, they would be intitled to fine you and charge for the replacment of the lost items. People and nations who have spent money on this weapon would be most unhappy to hear something they bought was blown up.

We support Raven corps...

Greetings again,
We are making a declaration to Mondoth to back down against Raven corps. It is his choice whether to sell the weapons and other nation's choice to buy, and by blockading him you are bringing disrespect to yourself among other nations and violating his right to sell this equipment. It has already been highlighted it is feasibly useful and is not overpowered in the right context
Dr J Edwards
Prime Minister of Rolatia

The Evil Overlord wishes to know whether this can be spread by water?

could the wepond be addapted so it only kills humans and leaves the location unaffected. That way the land can be taken with no fight, rather then the people left to fight for a desert!

ViZion awaits its shipment of the bioweapon. Our military is fully mobilized due to being at war with a large number of nations, currently at cease fire status, so if Mondoth decides to attack the shipment, we will quickly retaliate to crush his forces.

Thank you,

President Delain

TO: The nation of Mondoth
FROM: His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Crossman

The United Imperium of Crossman would like to propose an invitation to the nation of Mondoth. We have some warships that you may be interested in. They can be of service to you. You see, they have not had many targets in some time and would be ever so willing to assist your forces in being sent to the bottom of the ocean.

If you are not interested in this offer, then we suggest you stand down from this unwarrented blockade.

The choice is yours. Choose wisely.

- Emperor Alan Robert Ezriel Crossman II

OOC: Damn guys..im supposed to be on temporary retirement from ns..but i guess i can lend a hand to my allies

IC:

Official Statement from the President of tHE United States of Credonia

Credonia is vehemently appaled by the wreckless and thoughtless actions taken by the nation of Mondoth. The Ravencorp is well within their right to develop such weapons. Your nation has no right to place an illegal blockade upon this nation, a blockade which is unjustified. In response to this, I declare that should any naval vessel belonging to any nation be stopped, or should your naval forces so much as even attempt to stop a naval vessel pulling into their port, Credonia will be forced to take offensive military actions upon your nation. Those offensive military actions call for the all out invasion upon your nation using any and all means necessary to ensure the defeat of your military and your government. Dont test the patience of Credonia for we mean everything that we say and we do not back down in the face of threats.


Signed,

Kaimoni A. Sutton
Commander-in-Chief
President
United States of Credonia

I am glad that Mondoth has apparently backed down, as he has not yet made his move. However, we will be keeping an eye on the situation should be end up going through with his threat, as he has yet to officially denounce it.

Well it is different. Raven corps is getting support. I thought I would never see the day.

I still don't get how this works, as 1) cancer can't be combined with other diseases, as it's in no way shape or form contagious, and doesn't have a controllable biological cause; and 2) making a disease target everything BUT humans is frankly down-right impossible once you get into it. There's no weakness that other organisms would have that Homo sapiens does not.

if I remember right roaches are immune to radiation....humans are not.

if I remember right roaches are immune to radiation....humans are not.
Yes, but you're not looking at this properly: that's a trait that HUMANS lack, not roaches. You can't target a disease by a trait such as resistance to radiation, the only way for a disease to effect something is by reacting to the chemical makeup of its intended target. That's the reason diseases cross species borders: the make-up of their new prey is close enough to their original target that they can cross over and spread the infection. Humans don't have anything that some other species of animal lacks.

OOC: Are you talking in OOC form? If so, please state so... also, give it a rest. Sure, it's not 100% realistic, but how much of this game actually is? Give the guy a break, it'll be good for an interesting RP... It's not like he's created something that is total godmod... "OH, this virus attacks all military units but everything else is left alone so I can invade and take over easily!" If that was the case, I'd be first to call godmod... this isn't that.

I dont care how it works just as long as it works.

OOC: technically, cancerous DNA can be extracted and combined with the DNA of bacterial diseases, so its technically possible but not entirely feasible for MT.

IC: According to Mondothian policy, any ship carrying a biological or chemical weapon that might cause damage to Mondothian concerns and people will be regarded as a hostile vessel carrying supplies to an enemy nation and as such, it is fully with our rights a sovereign nation to destroy the ship and its cargo. Furthermore, We don't believe you have fully examined the implications of this abberration. If it is released and any of its laughable 'failsafes' fail (which Mondothian Genetisists and bacteriologists feel is extremely likely, and please note that a history of biological attacks against our people has not hurt our expertise in such matters) then this disaster could potentially destroy all life on earth. Even a controlled and fully 'safe' release could cause irreparable damage to the world ecology. It is The opinion of the top Mondothian authorities that any release of this so called 'weapon' has the potential to bring a rapid and disasterous end to all earthly life. If you attemot to stop our blockade then it is YOU who are beyond your rights, YOU who are acting irrationally and irresponsibly, YOU who are being wreckless and YOU who are being thoughtless, we cannot in good conscious allow any strain of this abomination to leave the labs wherein they were created and we implore you to aid us in ensuring this never happens. Any response to our actions will be met with EXTREME force in accordance to the seriousness of the situation. It is not us who are at risk, it is every man woman and child on this planet.

OOC: been busy with other RPs and for somereason this hasn't been showing up on my 'scriptions

Mondoth, keep in mind that you are not at war with us, nor has any nation threatened you unless you go about doing your illegal blockade. Had you not made it clear you will blockade these shipments, no one would have said, "Oh, let's go use this on Mondoth and his allies!" You can put in a request that he not sale his weapons to any of your enemies, but you have absolutely no right to blockade all of this. Should you procede to send out a blockade, we will be forced to destroy it, as you are outside of your sovereign right. You may blockade your enemies from recieving it during wartime, but do not procede with a blanket blockade.

Thank you,

President Delain

OOC: technically, cancerous DNA can be extracted and combined with the DNA of bacterial diseases, so its technically possible but not entirely feasible for MT.

Raven corps is PMT at most times, but MT at others.

To: The underground weapons company of Raven Corps
From: Defence department of the citizen's conclave of New Dracora, bio-tech agents and research division

We would be interested in the purchase of your new biological agent known as Ventum 4. The citizen's conclave requires 5 doses total, and will transfer the accepted payment of 100,000 US dollars per dose on arrival, coming to a total amount of 500,000 US dollars.

A government envoy will arrive by air to pick up the agent if you agree to the purchase.

Signed,

Dr Yuri van Osimoth,
Head of bio-tech agents and research division for the department of defence.

Message from the Wildfire Disease Control and Research Center

I don't believe you fully understand the possible effect of this weapon. Even the slightest possibility that this weapon will be used anywhere is enough to demand immediate action from all right thinking nations. This weapon could potentially destroy ALL life ont his planet from a single controlled release, no matter the safeguards put in place, I cannot in good conscience allow this weapon to be sold to anyone, even an ally of Mondoth, even Mondoth itself. This weapon is the off shoot of a lacking understanding of the forces of nature. We Modnothians have had considerable experience with biological weapons and can say with confidence that this weapon is abhorant beyond event he worst strains that have been used against Mondothian Citizens, the potential destruction is far greater than even a nuclear weapon. It is claimed that this bacteria does not kill Humans. But when I look back at all of the supposedly curable bacterial weapons and counterable viruses that have mutated beyon understanding in the course of a single generation, then I cannot help but shudder at the possibility that this weapon is ever used, because if it is, then the effects will not be local to the intended target as claimed, they will be global and I don't believe Humanity will survive the destruction whether it is directly affected or not.

It is for this reason that I am now activating the Wildfire Strategic Arsenal, in the event this bacteria is ever released, it will be cleansed by 10kt of low fallout thermo-nuclear force. This is not to be construed as an actof the Mondothian Government as I am acting in my full capacity now as the Head of Wildfire and the governor of the Wildfire Arsenal which was conceived, designed and built for this purpose.
-David Manfield (Head of Wildfire Institue for the Examination, Containment and Neutralization of Comunicable Diseases and Biological Weapons)

Message fromt he Mondothian Government:

Any interference with the blockade will be dealt with as an act of high crimes against humanity by this Government, any attemot to transport the Ventum4 bacteriological weapon to anywhere but a reasoined and neutral institue of disease research will be met with prejudicial force. It is my opinion, and the reasoned and learned opinions of the Heads of the Modnothian Medical and ecological establishemtns that this weapon cannot be suffered for the good of all people.

I don't believe you fully understand the possible effect of this weapon. Even the slightest possibility that this weapon will be used anywhere is enough to demand immediate action from all right thinking nations. This weapon could potentially destroy ALL life ont his planet from a single controlled release, no matter the safeguards put in place, I cannot in good conscience allow this weapon to be sold to anyone, even an ally of Mondoth, even Mondoth itself. This weapon is the off shoot of a lacking understanding of the forces of nature. We Modnothians have had considerable experience with biological weapons and can say with confidence that this weapon is abhorant beyond event he worst strains that have been used against Mondothian Citizens, the potential destruction is far greater than even a nuclear weapon. It is claimed that this bacteria does not kill Humans. But when I look back at all of the supposedly curable bacterial weapons and counterable viruses that have mutated beyon understanding in the course of a single generation, then I cannot help but shudder at the possibility that this weapon is ever used, because if it is, then the effects will not be local to the intended target as claimed, they will be global and I don't believe Humanity will survive the destruction whether it is directly affected or not.
-David Manfield (Head of Wildfire Institue for the Examination, Containment and Neutralization of Comunicable Diseases and Biological Weapons)
Oh, trust me, we understand. Trust me. We had delt with many things that are essentially SURE bets of destroying this planet. This is not even a sure bet. The most deadly thing we'd delt with is Acigoo. And Acigoo would eat this stuff alive were there two animals in a cage. Then it would eat the cage, and everything else around it.

Listen, the point is, there is no proof it WILL do what you claim it will do - destroy everything across the world from one ounce. Thus, you can no right to blockade it. If you want, buy all of it for your self and destroy it. But do not blockade it.

By the way, we have recieved our shipment of two ounces. The testing will be taking place underground in an underwater, air-tight, 50 acre compartment in an undisclosed location. One ounce will be used for testing, the other held in another undisclosed location.

OOC: night, see ya guys tomorrow...

Oh, trust me, we understand. Trust me. We had delt with many things that are essentially SURE bets of destroying this planet. This is not even a sure bet. The most deadly thing we'd delt with is Acigoo. And Acigoo would eat this stuff alive were there two animals in a cage. Then it would eat the cage, and everything else around it.

Listen, the point is, there is no proof it WILL do what you claim it will do - destroy everything across the world from one ounce. Thus, you can no right to blockade it. If you want, buy all of it for your self and destroy it. But do not blockade it.

By the way, we have recieved our shipment of two ounces. The testing will be taking place underground in an underwater, air-tight, 50 acre compartment in an undisclosed location. One ounce will be used for testing, the other held in another undisclosed location.
This is an automated warning message from Mondothian Strategic command, Locations within your nation have been added to the Mondothian list of Strategic Targets, if you have not doen anything to propmpt this threat, please send a message to the most accessible Mondothian Military Official. If you have, please feel free to stop whatever it is that made us decide it might be worthwhile to gift you with a booming plate glass trade.

Official Message from the President of the United States of Credonia

Your threats and unprovoked activation of a blockade aganst raven corps will not go unnoticed. At this time, Credonia is mobilizing its entire Western Battle Fleet to put down any and all offensive acts taken by your government. At this time, Credonia a soverign and most powerful nation declares the nation of Raven Corp as a protectorate nation of the United States of Credonia and will act accordingly to protect this nation. SHould you engage this illegal blockade, you will have to answer to the military might of Credonia and her all powerful allies, and that is something you cannot afford to do. Back down or prepare for invasion!

Sincerely,

Kaimoni A. Sutton
Commander-in-Chief
President
United States of Credonia

OOC: Mobilizing forces
Navy
Credonian Western Battle Fleet (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=405045)

Army
Western Army
1,000,000 Soldiers
825 M1A1 Abrams
300 Patrot Missile Systems
1500 T-64 Tanks
1500 T-95UM Heavy Tank
1050 KS-1 SAM Batteries
1500 M-26 Main Battle Tank
500 M103 Battle Tanks
750 PzH 2000 155mm Howitzer
750 M113 APC's
1050 TDR-3000 A1 Tanks
600 2S6M Tungsta Tanks
1200 M-270 MLRS Launcher
735 M1A2 Abrams Tank
500 G6 155 mm S.P. Howitzer
900 M2 Bradley APC
900 M-15 Light Tank
750 Challenger II

Eastern Army
1,000,000 Soldiers
825 M1A1 Abrams
300 Patrot Missile Systems
1500 T-64 Tanks
1500 T-95UM Heavy Tank
1050 KS-1 SAM Batteries
1500 M-26 Main Battle Tank
500 M103 Battle Tanks
750 PzH 2000 155mm Howitzer
750 M113 APC's
1050 TDR-3000 A1 Tanks
600 2S6M Tungsta Tanks
1200 M-270 MLRS Launcher
735 M1A2 Abrams Tank
500 G6 155 mm S.P. Howitzer
900 M2 Bradley APC
900 M-15 Light Tank
750 Challenger II

Air Force
25th Tactical Wing
-224th Fighter Squadron
100 F-15E Strike Eagles

-225th Fighter Squadron
50 Alpha Fighters

-226th Fighter Squadron
200 SU-36 Fighter Aircraft

26th Strategic Wing
-227th Stealth Fighter Squadron
30 F-117A Nighthawk Stealth Fighters

-228th Stealth Bomber Squadron
60 B-2 Spirit Stealth Bombers

-229th Strategic Bomber Squadron
20 B-1B Lancer Bombers
20 EA-220A Joint Tactical Bombers
20 B-52 Stratofortress Bombers

19th Helicopter Wing
-480 Tactical Chopper Squadron
50 AH-64 Apache Attack Helicopters
30 KH-4 Raptor Attack Helicopters
10 EA-28G Kight Attack/Special Forces

This is an automated warning message from Mondothian Strategic command, Locations within your nation have been added to the Mondothian list of Strategic Targets, if you have not doen anything to propmpt this threat, please send a message to the most accessible Mondothian Military Official. If you have, please feel free to stop whatever it is that made us decide it might be worthwhile to gift you with a booming plate glass trade.
ViZion scoffs at your threat. You can add us to whatever 'list' you wish to add us to. But should you attack us, we swear by the Holy Book and our nations own Constituion that you shall be utterly destroyed.

ViZion, in turn, has added you to its black list of threatening nations. Do not prompt us to do anything more with that.

President Delain

The Theocratic Chemicalists of Jenrak urges to both imported_Vizion and Mondoth to cease both possibel transgressions. It is simply not good for neither's economies to go to war at all.

The Theocratic Chemicalists of Jenrak urges to both imported_Vizion and Mondoth to cease both possibel transgressions. It is simply not good for neither's economies to go to war at all.
We would prefer peace as well. It is all in his ballpark. If he wishes to continue to throw around threats, he's going to get him self into trouble. If he goes through with the threats, he's good as dead. Simple as that. As long as he does not begin his blockade, or attack any nation, including mine, who possess this material, there will be no war. It is purely up to him.

However, we will support him in a war in the event that a nation uses the biological weapon offensively in an aggressive and/or imperialistic manor.

If that is not done, however, then we have no choice but to be the opposing force should he go about with his threats and go through with them.

The Theocratic Chemicalists of Jenrak urges to both imported_Vizion and Mondoth to cease both possibel transgressions. It is simply not good for neither's economies to go to war at all.
And certain extiction would be good for either economies? Keep in mind, this weapon causes destruction on an untold level to vital protions of the world ecology. If a single attack is ever made, the results will be felt worldwide, even if the failsafes function perfectly there is no suitable target the destruction of which would not cause an ecological disaster greater than all the oild spills and nuclear detonations put together. This is not our opinion, this is verifiable fact gathered from released information and our own studies on the effects of bacteriological destruction of limited environments as part of our ongoing fight against biological weapons.

ViZion, your tests are feeble and will yiled no concrete results this weapon will have an effect far beyond the local, even if it works exactly as advertised,the total destruction of any portion of biosphere would have results that echo throughout the ecosystem and not be confined to the local ecology, isolated testing will certainly not reveal this fatal flaw in the design.

For this reason we will not back down, if necesary we will bring the fires of nuclear desolation down on those who are intent on destroying all life on this planet in order to preserve that life. If you are so eager for war and bloodshed that you would put that desire before your inherent obligation to defend life on this world and to ensure the survival of the human race as a whole, then you do not deserve life, and, in the name of the previously stated obligations, we will, to defend this world and the human race as a species, destroy those who would take action counter to the survival of the Human Race.

And certain extiction would be good for either economies? Keep in mind, this weapon causes destruction on an untold level to vital protions of the world ecology. If a single attack is ever made, the results will be felt worldwide, even if the failsafes function perfectly there is no suitable target the destruction of which would not cause an ecological disaster greater than all the oild spills and nuclear detonations put together. This is not our opinion, this is verifiable fact gathered from released information and our own studies on the effects of bacteriological destruction of limited environments as part of our ongoing fight against biological weapons.

ViZion, your tests are feeble and will yiled no concrete results this weapon will have an effect far beyond the local, even if it works exactly as advertised,the total destruction of any portion of biosphere would have results that echo throughout the ecosystem and not be confined to the local ecology, isolated testing will certainly not reveal this fatal flaw in the design.

For this reason we will not back down, if necesary we will bring the fires of nuclear desolation down on those who are intent on destroying all life on this planet in order to preserve that life. If you are so eager for war and bloodshed that you would put that desire before your inherent obligation to defend life on this world and to ensure the survival of the human race as a whole, then you do not deserve life, and, in the name of the previously stated obligations, we will, to defend this world and the human race as a species, destroy those who would take action counter to the survival of the Human Race.
Yes, yes, we know how the ecological system works. We are well aware of that. We are also aware that it will not necessarily be exactly as-is when used on a nation opposed to our testing center. However, we will be testing it, none the less.

And to say that you shall reign down upon a nation using nuclear weapons to destroy that nation is not exactly preserving what you claim to be working to preserve. That in its self would do irrepairable damage to the ecological system. Figure out what side you are on before making threats that contridict what you claim to be fighting for.

As for your hints that we are here to destroy this world - do not put words into our mouth. We have likely done more in one year to help keep this earth from being destroyed that your nation's entire history! Learn your facts, as well.

As for your continual threats, we urge you to stand them down. We do not take lightly to continual threats, and if we are put in a position that we are expecting you to attack, we will prepare to retaliate - nuclear and otherwise - depending on the extent of the threat. You want to wave your nuclear weapons around like a pistol, fine. But be ready to see your own nation become nothing but radioactive glass should we feel your nation is going to use your nuclear weapons upon us.

Thank you,

President Delain

Television Broadcast from the Credonian Presidential Palace

President Sutton sits in his chair, looking over the speech that he wrote to deliver to the Credonian people and the world. He breaths in excitement as he cant wait for what will follow. Surely, he misses being a wartime president, and now was the perfect time to flex Credonia's military muscle and for a noble cause.

He finially looked up at the camera and nodded as a red light came on.

"My fellow Credonians, today, the world is faced with the threat of nuclear war from a nation that claims to want to preserve human kind, yet they brandish their nuclear weapons and threaten their use as if they were conventional weapons. Credonia cannot let this dangerous behavior go unchecked. The well being of Credonia, her new protectorate nation, and her allies is at stake, as well as the lives of every human being in existence that inhabit this planet today. Credonia and her allies will not be strong-armed into submission into a inferior nation who hides behind their nuclear weapons as if they were a protective shield. Any rational leader would know that a nation of our size and military strength cannot be penetrated by nuclear weapons due to the years and years of research and deployed technologies specifically for the purpose of eliminating the threat of nuclear weapons. Any such attack upon Credonia using such weapons would be futile and fruitless to the attacking nation. Because of this threat, I have no choice but to issue the following orders: All Credonian Strategic Nuclear Forces (SNF) are ordered to DEFCON 3. All Credonian Tactical Biological and Chemical Forces as well as all Credonian Conventional Military Forces are ordered to DEFCON 2. If the nation of Mondoth really wants to press for war, then war is what they will get, and they will not win.

To the nation of Mondoth, if you truly have the interests of all humankind in mind, then it would behove your nation to stand down and engage in peace talks before your nation is reduced to nuclear rubble. You have been warned. This is and will be your only warning. The next move we make will be one in which you do not like."

Thank you!"

Before the camera goes off the air, Sutton smiles. Inside, he knows that Mondoth will be decimated unless he were to call for peace talks to end this Conflict. Blind ignorance seems to be all they know and to challenge not one but TWO nations nearly four times their size is truly ignorant and quite stupid. Only time will tell whether or not they realize that they cannot win in a war against Credonia and her allies.

President Delain smiled as he watched Sutton's message. He always is forceful, and in situations like this, that is exactly what we needed.

He knew war would like be inevitable, however, given the wreckless threatening that Mondoth has been doing. And to blame ViZion for not knowing what we were doing? HA! Ignorance doesn't even begin to explain the stupidity of that comment.

ViZion was ready for war... after all, this is the third consecutive brink-of-war we've been at in the past couple of months, one right behind the other without even having time to begin to demobilize.

ViZionarian units have been training harder than ever before to get better. ViZion had been at war with, or stood on the bring of war, with among the most powerful nations of the world. Mondoth them comes in threatening to completely destroy us? How can he be so ignorant! If he even sends a single Mondothian soldier over here armed with nothing but a 6" blade, it will be the end of their country.

ViZion also has sent out orders to begin rounding up all ViZionarians in Mondoth - albeit there are not many. If all goes well, they will be out of Mondoth by sundown tonight and in the air heading home.

Orders were also given to begin the rounding up of Mondothian citizens. They would not be departed, however. But rather, they will be detained until the situation cools off. Their locations will be unknown across all of ViZion, but will be in well-maintained, and comfortable, locations that will treat the people well.

A message was sent off to Mondoth reguarding this matter as well;

Mondoth. As we were at the blink of war - a nuclear one if you so wish - we have no choice but to detain all Mondothian citizens currently in ViZion, bar none. They will be well taken care of - there is no need to worry about their safety. They will be treated as well as any ViZionarian! However, we cannot allow them to roam freely around ViZion, or to exit our borders. Thus, they are being rounded up and sent to undisclosed locations all across ViZion. These locations are clean, well maintained, safe, and comfortable - compare it to a three to four star hotel if you will. They will be fed good, healthy meals, as well. They are in safe keeping. But, given the situation, this is a must.

TO: Mondoth
FROM: Emperor Crossman, Ruler of the United Imperium of Crossman

Not only are you threatening Crossmanian allies with nuclear weapons for insane reasons, a childish and cowardly act in the eyes of the Imperium, but you are now interupting my wedding preperations. So yes, this is now personal. Your missiles do not scare us. The Imperium has its ways of dealing with these pitiful nukes of yours.

It is also humorous how you are willing to use WMDs to enfore your blockade of WMDs being sold. A bit hypocritical really.

Stand down.

Message from Mondothian Ministry of International Affairs in compunction with the Mondothian Biological Research Agency:
We see where it would be possible that you could view a nuclear attack to have effects equal to an attack by the ventum 4 weapon, and, were they used on the same types of targets, you would be right, however, A nuclear strike is undertaken against industrial/political centers where there is very little int he way of natural ecology, sure there may be several parks, they may even be large parks, but in the grand ecological scheme they offer nothing to the ecology. Whereas Ventum 4 would primarily be targetted against agricultural centers where the majority of the affected area is ecologically necesary for the regions survival, and the eco system of that region is ultimately necesary for a much larger areas survival and so on. Where a nuclear strike targets a single concentration of people, Ventum 4 can not be so focused, its affects will always either hollistically affect the surrounding areas in an ever expanding ring of death or, if targetted against a nuclear target, be an utterly wasted move, only useful as a psychological weapon that would not in any way affect the ability of the city to produce war material or to fight. This is why a nuclear strike is justified in defense against an attack of this kind. Waiting until a nation has used this weapon to act may be too late to stop the effects, this abomination must be stopped before it reaches the hands of madmen who might use it.


Press release from a group of private Modnothian Citizens to the world:
The screen is initially filled with an image of the Mondothian flag and Ministerial Seal but that image is quicky replaced by two podiums, each bearing the Mondothian Flag, at the podiums stand a single very old woman and a single, even older arabic man. In a voice gravelled by age, the old man starts.
"My name, is Muhhammed al Kahif, many of you may recognize that name, I was the last Prime Minister of Mondoth and the one who created the Mondothian Strategic forces. I appear today to warn of two great threats to the world, one is the Ventum 4 bacteria created recently by the laboratories of Raven Corps. in my experience, such weaponry is normally too unstable and too cruel to be used except by psychotic dictators, these weapons, are in my opinion, evil and no right thinking nation should employ them, but this weapon is special, it does not affect humans, but has a much more astonishingly short sighted purpose, to attack the earth, to rip from the planet the life giving plants and to dash the creatures that crawl among them to their death. By its very nature this weapon cannot be safely contained, the earth is a living being itself, and what so hurts a portion of the earth, so hurts the entirety of the earth, including the human populationt hat lives on it. The second great threat is the Mondothian Nuclear arsenal, which I helped to create, which is now aimed at any nation willing to risk the life of every man woman and child on this earth to possess this weapon for their use, I helped to create this arsenal and I know, more than anyone else its destructive power, there are defensive networks that cost trillions of dollars to build nad their sole purpose is to defend against attacks if this variety you might say, but the methods of delivery for the Mondothian weapons are unique, and very clever, It is not, I think, possible to defend yourself completely from them, but that is the lookout of those who seek to destroy us all, whether through greed or ignorance, the threat of these nations is the gravest and the unleashing of the nuclear arsenal tottally dependent on their actions.
Now that I have finished ranting, may I introduce my learned collegue, and friend in the years since my abdication: Susan Van Bleek, currently the head of the Modnothian Diplomatic Corps."

The Woman cleared her throught.
"I speak to you now, not as a member of the Mondothian Government, but as a concerned citizen of that government, I have weathered many wars, and negotiated an end to many of them now I feel it is time for peace. You have heard my firend the Honorable Mr. Kahif speak of the threats that many nations, and the world as a whole now face, it is my duty to speak, as a private and concerned citizen, on a solution. In international waters there is now an oceangoing yacht capable of landing helicopters. Any nation involved in this terrible political incident wishing for peace may attend a peace conference to be held there in one week, the yacht is totally neutral territory and any weapons will not be tolerated. If you seek peace and an end to the nuclear and biological threats, then please attend, Mondoth has already agreed to send a delegate fully empowered to act on behalf of the Mondothian Government in this incidence. This is the one chance for peace before a new and deadly war wracks this planet, I beg you all to attend with an open mind."

The screen slowly fades to a collage of all the flags of the worlds nations.

ViZion will send a delegate. We're starting to run short on them, being in so many peace confrences at this time. Lourance Langston will be the ViZionarian diplomat that will be attending. He will be leaving ViZion in roughly 12 hours.

Credonia will send Credonian Secretary of State Lauren R. Smith to attend these peace talks so that the nation of Mondoth may be peacefully spared. The Credonian delegate will depart from Credonia in a matter of a couple hours to attend this conference.

OOC: Meh...not like Mondoth can do much to stop me. :p

IC:

It has come to our attention that a new bioweapon has been created for the purposes of turning a nation into a barren wasteland like Calgulia, a planet in a distant star system that we know of. We, the Imperial Republic of Coredia would like to purchase a gallon of the Ventum 4 virus for research purposes. A ship will be dispatched to pick up the bioweapon when all transactions are completed. Thank you!

Alexander Masaki, Patriarch of Coredia

OOC: Meh...not like Mondoth can do much to stop me. :p

IC:

It has come to our attention that a new bioweapon has been created for the purposes of turning a nation into a barren wasteland like Calgulia, a planet in a distant star system that we know of. We, the Imperial Republic of Coredia would like to purchase a gallon of the Ventum 4 virus for research purposes. A ship will be dispatched to pick up the bioweapon when all transactions are completed. Thank you!

Alexander Masaki, Patriarch of Coredia
OOC: lmao

Message to the Government of Mondoth from President Sutton

While Credonia may be sending a delegate to talk peace with your nation, do not let that sidetrack you from the fact that we will remain at a heightened state of alert and our naval forces will continue their journey towards the international waters of the Credonian protectorate nation, Raven Corp, to prevent you from illegally blockading this nation and its imports and exports of any and all weapons and non-weapons. Should you proceed to continue with implimenting that blockade, Credonia will not hesitate to suspend peace talks with your nation and begin its full-scale invasion of your nation's mainland. With 8 million troops within its standing army and its capability of drafting hundreds of millions more, you have no choice but to give in to our demands or prepare for occupation and take-over. Order an IMMEDIATE halt to your plans of blockading Raven Corp or you will pay dearly!

Signed,

Kaimoni A. Sutton
Commander-in-Chief
President
United States of Credonia


Military Orders
Credonian Strategic Nuclear Forces are hereby ordered to DEFCON 2

Kaimoni A. Sutton
Commander-in-Chief
President
United States of Credonia

Lourance is nearing the location. We request permission to land.

Secret IC:
ViZion has begun loading six B-2 and four B-52 bombers with nuclear weapons, while also loading nuclear and convensional missiles onto thirty four F-22's and 16 F/A-18's.

They would be taking off within the hour.

An hour later, the convoy of aircraft were rising into the sky. The would soon be heading towards Mondoth.

OOC: Where are you located? And are you along a coastline, are you an island, or what?

WE see your system as a complete waste, our TRBL missle can remove an entire palnet's capacity for large-scale military action within hours, and poses only minimum danger to ornamental plants and wildlife, thus permitting a rapid restabilisation of the ecosystem afterwards.

WE see your system as a complete waste, our TRBL missle can remove an entire palnet's capacity for large-scale military action within hours, and poses only minimum danger to ornamental plants and wildlife, thus permitting a rapid restabilisation of the ecosystem afterwards.
OOC: ahhh... huh... ok.

OOC: I suggest that we move the Mondoth situation to a different thread, so as to now thread-jack this one.
Also, I may be unable to attend, depending on my RL schedule. In which case, ViZion, keep me posted.

I can see a use, taking out osmething you can't hold, and as a terorist weapon. but destroying whole value of a planet is not very popular here in Scamptica Prime. And MT nations would have to be careful...

Imported_ViZion Aircraft, you are cleared to land, please disembark your passengers and then assume a holding position or return to your base, we have limited landing space that must be available for other delegates, please remember that weapons of any kind will not be allowed.

To Credonia: Our Task force will remain in position in international waters, any interference will not be well regarded however, the task forces will not be taking an active blockade roll and will instead be gatherins intelligence on ships and aircraft leaving Raven Corps. Territory. (OOC: the task forces are recently commissioned FMCV fleets that are designed to maintain an exteremly low profile, the ships incorporate many stealth features to reduce their visibility to radar, aircraft and infrared/thermal sensors as well as a comprehensive electronics suite that includes gear for effectively blinding sattelites while they are in a line of sight to the fleet)

At the Mondothian Sattelite Mapping and Survey Heaquarters Building in Port Triumph:
"Sir, coverage asses over ViZion indicates intercontinental strategic force has lifted off, intelligence indicates strategic loads. Destination currently unknown but there are only so many targets right now."

Very well lieutenant, Scramble the 'claws and have air defense command put on full alert, alert the Prime Ministry that a nuclear attack may be immenent and evacuate them o the safe zone, tell Camden Bay they're pissed over the no shoot order in the DC incident and I'm sure they'd love to have a combat test of those dee's, but make sure they get an E-20 to back 'em up. If any approach is unmonitored for so much as a fraction of a second I will personally hang whoever is responsible by whatever part of their anatomy is most painful, make sure SAC knows that."

"Yes Sir." as the lietenant left to make the calls, Admiral Bin Hasan, the man in charge of the Mondothian intelligence establishment made oem calls of his own, very special calls of the sort that had only once before in Mondothian history been made.

"Mister Prime Minister, I'm afraid Imported_ViZion has launched a possible strategic Air raid against Mondoth, as a prcautionary method you and your family will be moved to a secure location."

"Head of Mondothian Defense, this is Head of Mondothian Intelligence, at this time, please place all forces on stage three alertand stay tuned for updates."

As he finished alerting the relevant authorities, he turned a primitive and out of place looking knob on his desk he had had custom instaled when he took the job, turning the dial from 'Peace' to a very ominous looking 'War' as he did so, agents around the world began waking up ot check the FLASH trafic sent via secure, untraceable sattelite connections to little pagers that all Mondothian agents carried, checking their pagers, many swore and went back to sleep, or whatever activity they had been doing at the time. but several out of country swore and put on jackets, shorts and pants and went to work, while almost all in country swore, put on jackets and drove to the nearest Intelligence office building, logging on to computers therein and getting to work analyzing data and breaking codes until somebody could give a solid view of exactly what was happening and how far it would go.

On airfields around Mondoth jet engines slowly came to life, whinign to full power and then throatily boosting the decidedly un rrealistic looking E-20/a Tiger Claw Air defense aircraft into the air. the planes had bulbous noses that teardropped back into a regular aircraft fuselage that looked like it was being forcibly mated with a flying saucer, all while imporbably long wings dangled an assortment of sesnors and positively fearsom looking little shapes that were hard to make out because their color kept changing to match the background . These were the deadly secret of Mondoths Air Defense force, the Bathor Shadow Stealth Long range, high payload air to air missiles loaded with blue Sky 5 kiloton Nuclear Warheads designed to rip an enemy strategic bomber attack to pieces. the missiles were covered in an LCD skin camoflauge that made them all but impossible to spot visually, and were built like miniture stealth aircraft, all curves, no straight lines or angles to reflect radar waves. They didn't need to be particularly fast or maneuverable so most of their structure was pure stealth. the weapons guided in on the very powerful radar beams generated by the E-20/A aircrafts comprehensive array of radars and had an engagement range unmatched in air to air weaponry.
Each 'Claw' is escorted by at least four IF/A-14 'ThunderCat' long range, high speed interceptors built on modified F-14 Tomcat airframes. While the E-20/A stationed at the Famed Camden bay Shipyards facility has a far more insidious fighter screen, Four brand new SX-24D model stealth strike fighters, equipped with the latest fighter technology these incredibly stealthy fighters are more maneuverable than many modern Air to Air fighters and the new D model is the stealthiest aircraft now in the skies, featuring an expiremental and ver expensive Plasma Radar Shield, using a combination of the igh airfriction created by a fighter aircraft with magnetic inductors in the wings and leadding edges, the generators enhanced the naturally occuring plasma field created by high speed aircraft, forming it into a barrier that absorbs all radar energy and is high enough energy to confuse IR and thermal targetting systems, coupled with the latest in LCD technology to create stunning optical camoflauge, the fighters are the closest thing to invisible now in the skies. the only fdrawback is the extreme cost of the plasma generators, the effect on maintenance personell (the generator are hard to maintain) and the fact that while the shield is active, the fighters own radar is useless and they must rely on external radars to acquire targets (such as the one on the E-20/As they are so conveniently escorting).


In less than two hours, the Mondothian Air Borders were locked down.


OOC: Mondoth is an Island, theres a map here: http://www.geocities.com/jamealbeluvien/Mondothmapmain.bmp
every labeled city is a major economic or political center (larger dots are worth more) the unlabelled dot north east of Faith Bay, is the Camden bay Shipyards. Naveira is an ex Mondothian Province that sperated, and, due to a governmental collapse is cirrently a joint protectorate of Modnoth and sveral other nations, the tan areas are desert and the spotted brown are mountainous. Mondoth is located in the NS equivalent of the North Pacific

Imported_ViZion Aircraft, you are cleared to land, please disembark your passengers and then assume a holding position or return to your base, we have limited landing space that must be available for other delegates, please remember that weapons of any kind will not be allowed.
The helicopter made touch down, and within seconds, Lourance popped out from the side of the helicopter. Instantly, once he was cleared from the craft with his belongings, the ViZionarian helicopter took off.

At the Mondothian Sattelite Mapping and Survey Heaquarters Building in Port Triumph:
"Sir, coverage asses over ViZion indicates intercontinental strategic force has lifted off, intelligence indicates strategic loads. Destination currently unknown but there are only so many targets right now."

Very well lieutenant, Scramble the 'claws and have air defense command put on full alert, alert the Prime Ministry that a nuclear attack may be immenent and evacuate them o the safe zone, tell Camden Bay they're pissed over the no shoot order in the DC incident and I'm sure they'd love to have a combat test of those dee's, but make sure they get an E-20 to back 'em up. If any approach is unmonitored for so much as a fraction of a second I will personally hang whoever is responsible by whatever part of their anatomy is most painful, make sure SAC knows that."

"Yes Sir." as the lietenant left to make the calls, Admiral Bin Hasan, the man in charge of the Mondothian intelligence establishment made oem calls of his own, very special calls of the sort that had only once before in Mondothian history been made.

"Mister Prime Minister, I'm afraid Imported_ViZion has launched a possible strategic Air raid against Mondoth, as a prcautionary method you and your family will be moved to a secure location."

"Head of Mondothian Defense, this is Head of Mondothian Intelligence, at this time, please place all forces on stage three alertand stay tuned for updates."

As he finished alerting the relevant authorities, he turned a primitive and out of place looking knob on his desk he had had custom instaled when he took the job, turning the dial from 'Peace' to a very ominous looking 'War' as he did so, agents around the world began waking up ot check the FLASH trafic sent via secure, untraceable sattelite connections to little pagers that all Mondothian agents carried, checking their pagers, many swore and went back to sleep, or whatever activity they had been doing at the time. but several out of country swore and put on jackets, shorts and pants and went to work, while almost all in country swore, put on jackets and drove to the nearest Intelligence office building, logging on to computers therein and getting to work analyzing data and breaking codes until somebody could give a solid view of exactly what was happening and how far it would go.

On airfields around Mondoth jet engines slowly came to life, whinign to full power and then throatily boosting the decidedly un rrealistic looking E-20/a Tiger Claw Air defense aircraft into the air. the planes had bulbous noses that teardropped back into a regular aircraft fuselage that looked like it was being forcibly mated with a flying saucer, all while imporbably long wings dangled an assortment of sesnors and positively fearsom looking little shapes that were hard to make out because their color kept changing to match the background . These were the deadly secret of Mondoths Air Defense force, the Bathor Shadow Stealth Long range, high payload air to air missiles loaded with blue Sky 5 kiloton Nuclear Warheads designed to rip an enemy strategic bomber attack to pieces. the missiles were covered in an LCD skin camoflauge that made them all but impossible to spot visually, and were built like miniture stealth aircraft, all curves, no straight lines or angles to reflect radar waves. They didn't need to be particularly fast or maneuverable so most of their structure was pure stealth. the weapons guided in on the very powerful radar beams generated by the E-20/A aircrafts comprehensive array of radars and had an engagement range unmatched in air to air weaponry.
Each 'Claw' is escorted by at least four IF/A-14 'ThunderCat' long range, high speed interceptors built on modified F-14 Tomcat airframes. While the E-20/A stationed at the Famed Camden bay Shipyards facility has a far more insidious fighter screen, Four brand new SX-24D model stealth strike fighters, equipped with the latest fighter technology these incredibly stealthy fighters are more maneuverable than many modern Air to Air fighters and the new D model is the stealthiest aircraft now in the skies, featuring an expiremental and ver expensive Plasma Radar Shield, using a combination of the igh airfriction created by a fighter aircraft with magnetic inductors in the wings and leadding edges, the generators enhanced the naturally occuring plasma field created by high speed aircraft, forming it into a barrier that absorbs all radar energy and is high enough energy to confuse IR and thermal targetting systems, coupled with the latest in LCD technology to create stunning optical camoflauge, the fighters are the closest thing to invisible now in the skies. the only fdrawback is the extreme cost of the plasma generators, the effect on maintenance personell (the generator are hard to maintain) and the fact that while the shield is active, the fighters own radar is useless and they must rely on external radars to acquire targets (such as the one on the E-20/As they are so conveniently escorting).


In less than two hours, the Mondothian Air Borders were locked down.


OOC: Mondoth is an Island, theres a map here: http://www.geocities.com/jamealbeluvien/Mondothmapmain.bmp
every labeled city is a major economic or political center (larger dots are worth more) the unlabelled dot north east of Faith Bay, is the Camden bay Shipyards. Naveira is an ex Mondothian Province that sperated, and, due to a governmental collapse is cirrently a joint protectorate of Modnoth and sveral other nations, the tan areas are desert and the spotted brown are mountainous. Mondoth is located in the NS equivalent of the North Pacific
"Sir, it looks like their scrambling their forces." a RAD officer reported.
"I figured. But no need to worry. They have their orders."

Onboard the lead B-2 bomber, lead B-52 bomber, and two leading fighters, they opened up their orders. After reading them, a message was sent to the all other aircraft in this mission to cut all communications.

Done.

After another 30 moments, they were only a mile from the edge of Mondothian airspace when they made sharp turn to the north, as the aircraft's began to encircle Mondoth, their targets selected, but not locked - yet.

OOC: alright, thanks!

OOC: I don't know much about science, and I'm not of the same tech level, I don't think, but how would one CONTROL this weapon? Should one drop fall, it would start to kill everything nearby, and use the cells of the victim plants/animals to reproduce. It seems like it would be unstoppable.

Also, does it kill bacteria as well? Because if bacteria is also targeted, then a large amount of infected bacteria will find their way into people, where the viruses would evolve out of need, or simply feed off of everything eaten by the person, causing death anyways. Then, of course, some of the viruses will be caught with the food, brought into the digestive tract, and absorbed into the blood stream, which leads to even worse things. However, if bacteria isn't targeted, then any society with reasonable understanding of biochemistry and biology could create edible molds and cultures using the bacteria.

OOC: My understanding is its a bacteria with a tightly controlled set of taget enzymes (or something to differentiate humans from targets) and a mutation controlled life span (a specialized gene is inserted that compares the DNA of the current generation ot the first generation and when the differences are about equivalent to the differenses expected after x generations, the gene kills of the bacteria) so, while spreading is unlikely, controlling where it hits is still a problem, espescially if its released into the atmosphere in a storm or soemthing.

IC As the enemy air fleet approached, a message was sent on all frequencies.

"To Imported_ViZion AIrcraft, you are currently in the Mondothian Controlled emergency buffer zone, please state your purpose or be engaged, if you feel disinclined to respond, please note that the radar currently playing over your aircraft is the most powerful radar in the skies today and that it is most commonly detected on the recieveing end of a 5 kiloton air to air nuclear missile strike.

OOC: Where about is your air raid so I can figure out what forces are available in the area.

OOC: My understanding is its a bacteria with a tightly controlled set of taget enzymes (or something to differentiate humans from targets) and a mutation controlled life span (a specialized gene is inserted that compares the DNA of the current generation ot the first generation and when the differences are about equivalent to the differenses expected after x generations, the gene kills of the bacteria) so, while spreading is unlikely, controlling where it hits is still a problem, espescially if its released into the atmosphere in a storm or soemthing.

IC As the enemy air fleet approached, a message was sent on all frequencies.

"To Imported_ViZion AIrcraft, you are currently in the Mondothian Controlled emergency buffer zone, please state your purpose or be engaged, if you feel disinclined to respond, please note that the radar currently playing over your aircraft is the most powerful radar in the skies today and that it is most commonly detected on the recieveing end of a 5 kiloton air to air nuclear missile strike.

OOC: Where about is your air raid so I can figure out what forces are available in the area.
The ViZionarian (OOC: just call 'em ViZionarian... "imported_" was added to my name when they changed forums, but only as my forum name, not my nation name...) aircraft had no way to recieve the message, and clearly could not send any messages back. They continued on their course of encirclement around Mondoth, just a mile from the border. The only contact avaliable is via a small light that will flash red in the event ViZion comes under attack, and will flash red and blue if the retaliate requires nuclear attacks.

OOC: there's no "air raid", they're simply circling around Mondoth just a mile from your airspace, still technically in international airspace... a sort of trick ViZion plays on nations they are expecting any major attack from serving as an immediate retaliation force...

Sutton Air Force Base, Credonia City, Credonia

Credonian strategic air forces were on high alert. The aircrews of the strategtic bomber forces were briefed on their missions and targets should a nuclear strike be ordered against Mondoth.

After a couple hours, the entire Credonian 26th Strategic Wing consisting of 150 strategic long range bombers, stealth bombers and stealth fighters took to the skies headed straight for Mondoth. Their orders were simple, maintain radio silence and open orders only upon arrival at the predetermined coordinates. Enroute, a single stealth fighter broke off from the main formation and headed towards a remote island in the middle of the ocean. Locking on to its target coordinates, it dropped its payload on the Credonian owned island. The lone bomb began its rapid decent to its detonation altitude.

http://phillips.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/222nuclear_blast.jpg

Message from President Sutton to Mondoth

Your nation is making minimal efforts to attain peace. At the present, Vizionian and Credonian delegates are headed for your yacht to talk peace, however, you maintain an aggressive military stance. If you want peace to prevail, stand all of your offensive military forces down and relocate all of your naval forces 200 nautical miles away from the coast of Raven Corp. If you do not...the consequences will be dire and I can give you Credonia's assurances that peace will not be attained.

Also, Credonian naval forces have begun initiating the counter-blockade of Raven Corp. Should your naval forces approach ours, we will fire upon your ships. Stand down or prepare for war!

Signed,

Kaimoni A. Sutton
Commander-in-Chief
President
United States of Credonia

Raven Corp Territorial Waters

Credonian naval forces begain steaming into the coastal waters of Raven Corp, actively monitoring all foreign naval movements. The plan was simple, allow all naval forces both civil and military to pass through except those of the infidel enemy. Any ship beloning to enemy forces would be stopped, boarded, or if they were of military nature, fired upon and sunk on the spot.

OOC:I have been gone to long what in the hell is going on I click on the last page link and the next thing I see is a nuke explosion..... what in the hell?

OOC:I have been gone to long what in the hell is going on I click on the last page link and the next thing I see is a nuke explosion..... what in the hell?
OOC: heh... well, Mondoth and me/Creddy are on the verge of a nuclear war after Mondoth decided he'd try to blockade you so you cannot ship the bioweapon out... lol... interesting, huh?

*is laughing my fucking ass off at your reaction to all this*

OOC: Not to mention that I want my gallon of bioweapon! How much do I pay for that? Here's my post:

OOC: Meh...not like Mondoth can do much to stop me. :p

IC:

It has come to our attention that a new bioweapon has been created for the purposes of turning a nation into a barren wasteland like Calgulia, a planet in a distant star system that we know of. We, the Imperial Republic of Coredia would like to purchase a gallon of the Ventum 4 virus for research purposes. A ship will be dispatched to pick up the bioweapon when all transactions are completed. Thank you!

Alexander Masaki, Patriarch of Coredia

Corworlds your shipment is currently being loaded in to our ships.... it should be thier within the next N.S. day.

Corworlds your shipment is currently being loaded in to our ships.... it should be thier within the next N.S. day.
OOC: Finally!

IC:
The money for the bioweapons are being sent at this moment. However, due to current circumstances, we have elected to send a naval carrier battle group to protect the ships as they head out to sea. They will rendzevous with yours within the day.

Comfirmed our ships will wait at our property lines.

OOC: Raven, whaddaya think about this? Two '03 nations and an '04 nation threatening nuclear war with eachother over your bioweapon... lol...

Basically, here's what happened in a nut shell:
Mondoth said you cannot sell it and would set up a blockade. I told him no, he cannot blockade you due to the fact he has to legal right to. He continued to say he would, and eventually threatened nuclear war. ViZion alerted its ally, Cred, over this, who was quite offended Mondoth would even think of threatening nuclear war with an ally of his (not to mention, ViZion was not pleased either)

So, ViZion and Cred are preparing to have war with Mondoth, and should he use WMD's, ViZion has tons of nuclear-armed planes circling around his country just a mile outside his airspace, ready to retaliate. Creddy is also preparing to strike should Mondoth cause any problems.

OOC: And I'm here to make sure that my purchased items don't get blown up by trigger-happy Mondoth naval assets. He harms my goods, he dies. Simple as that.

OOC: I know All I wanted to do was release this weapon have a few sells and as all my threads do die. But this is new.....Never would have thought that it would blow up into a nuclear war.....especially if I have nothing fighting. Now if my weapons was in use..... I could see this happeneing, but it has not been used. I feel special.

OOC: Again, I move that we move the Mondoth situation to another thread.

OOC: I'm making another thread for this conflict. It'll be up shortly.

OOC: Alright, let the fun begin. Here's the thread to play war with Mondoth ;) .

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=448192

Hello, I am a delegate from the nation of Difloxia, I am prepared to purchase 2 pints of this bio-chemical weapon apon reply, thank you for your time.

The nation of Difloxia is also open to any nation that would wish to use the Golden Triangle region as a stepping stone, Again, Thank you.

(OOC: Woo! My first bit of RP!)

Comfirmed please wir the money ASAP.

The CN Master Yoda carrier battlegroup soon steamed towards Raven Corp waters to pick up the bioweapons their government has purchased. Knowing of the blockade, they are prepared to dish out steel death if Mondoth so much as looks at them wrong. Fighters are in the air, patrolling for bogeys. Antisubmarine assets trailed sonar bouys to check for enemy subs. And the surface warships oiled their guns for possible battle. Now they began to test the resolve of the enemy by crossing into Raven Corp territorial waters...

Mirkana does not wish to buy the bioweapon in large quantities, but a small sample is wanted for analysis.
OOC: I'm going to make a countervirus.

Hello, I am a delegate from the nation of Difloxia, I am prepared to purchase 2 pints of this bio-chemical weapon apon reply, thank you for your time.

The nation of Difloxia is also open to any nation that would wish to use the Golden Triangle region as a stepping stone, Again, Thank you.

(OOC: Woo! My first bit of RP!)
OOC: Welcome to NS! Feel free to ask anyone for any help on RPing... we're all workin to improve the RPing here on NS!

bump

Couldn't someone engineer it to kill people?

OOC: RC, you might wanna keep tabs in here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=448192

We've forced Mondoth to back down on his threats of a blockade, as well as threats of a nuclear war, and he's even allowing certain nations to purchase your bioweapon without question.

Couldn't someone engineer it to kill people?
OOC: Was that IC or OOC? And yes, someone could... both ICly and OOCly