NationStates Jolt Archive


C&T to give away Fortress Boulder(for real I want to get rid of it)

Colorado and Texas
29-09-2005, 13:09
Today the leader of Colorado and Texas has decided to give away our new territory of Fortress Boulder. He say's he must get rid of this nation for many reasons.
1. Because if we keep it we shall end up getting in trouble(ooc: banned)
2. The econmy is in the pits
3. We just hate hippies

If you are interested in taking over this nation post why we should give it to you and what you will do with the population,economy ect.
Colorado and Texas
29-09-2005, 13:10
Spotlight on:
The Dictatorship of Fortress Boulder
"Ban The White Male"

UN Category: Corrupt Dictatorship
Civil Rights:
Good Economy:
Fair Political Freedoms:
Outlawed

Location: Wasted America
The Dictatorship of Fortress Boulder is a huge, environmentally stunning nation, renowned for its strong anti-business politics. Its compassionate, cynical population of 766 million are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich. In their personal lives, however, citizens are relatively unoppressed; it remains to be seen whether this is because the government genuinely cares about its people, or if it hasn't gotten around to stamping out civil rights yet.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it is mainly concerned with the Environment, although Education and Public Transport are on the agenda. The average income tax rate is 53%, and even higher for the wealthy. The private sector is almost wholly made up of enterprising fourteen-year-old boys selling lemonade on the sidewalk, although the government is looking at stamping this out.

A government program is underway to revitalize Fortress Boulder's beaches, students are known to arrive at school in their pyjamas, the government is attempting to impose a new national language on the public, and streakers swamp all public events in order to bare it all. Crime is moderate, probably because of the country's utter lack of prisons. Fortress Boulder's national animal is the Regal Goat, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the slave.
Colorado and Texas
29-09-2005, 13:22
Ok so here it is. My little brother was the leader of Boulder. You can see how well he did. He grew bored and gave it to me. I decided to invade. (ooc) could not decide how to do it kept sliding towards the way natzis did in ww2(ic) but that did not work out to well. There for I will give it away to the most deserving and lucky nation who wants it. Just have a goood reason why you want it.
Colorado and Texas
29-09-2005, 13:53
*all over Colorado and Texas and braodcast to other nations. Today we see in a historic move a full nation given away free.*
Tadjikistan
29-09-2005, 14:07
Give it to a new but talented RPer, if he wants it offcourse.
Colorado and Texas
29-09-2005, 14:09
Give it to a new but talented RPer, if he wants it offcourse.hmm not a bad idea. Maybe have those that are interested show me an example of their skills. The winner would get it. Hmmm I would need a helper to choose the winner.
Tadjikistan
29-09-2005, 14:13
You suggesting i'd be your helper? I could do that, although i'm not a good judge and my writing isnt really of a high standard(or thats what i think).
Amyntos
29-09-2005, 14:15
Most Secret/Encryption Level 6

Amyntos would be happy to receive ownership of Boulder to use its vast population as a ready source of conscripted manpower in the war against the Iridian States, to plunder its resources to fund said war and restore Amyntos' shattered economy, and to press-gang its civilians into service for work to build armaments and the like.
Colorado and Texas
29-09-2005, 14:19
You suggesting i'd be your helper? I could do that, although i'm not a good judge and my writing isnt really of a high standard(or thats what i think).sure you can help. could be fun.

contenders.
1.Amyntos
Tadjikistan
29-09-2005, 14:20
Most Secret/Encryption Level 6

Amyntos would be happy to receive ownership of Boulder to use its vast population as a ready source of conscripted manpower in the war against the Iridian States, to plunder its resources to fund said war and restore Amyntos' shattered economy, and to press-gang its civilians into service for work to build armaments and the like.

Eh, if this is an Rped war, forget it. You cant use puppets for this purpose.
Amyntos
29-09-2005, 14:20
Do you require specific details on how exactly I will brtually exploit the nation to win the war against the Iridian States or is my brief explanation enough?

[OCC: Tadjikistan why is that?]
Colorado and Texas
29-09-2005, 14:26
Amyntos what we want is a good examble of your rp skills, abd we need to know what you really plan on doing with the nation. Ie. keeping, flag changes ect.
Tadjikistan
29-09-2005, 14:27
Well, If you go to my region you'll see three states, Islamic Tadjikistan The Shinwari and Tadjikistan, all over 4 billion. Now if I were to go to war with you I could combine them and get a total population of 15 billion or something in the likes. Imagine what people with 10 puppets could do.. Thats not exactly fair so a long time ago it was decided that you can use only one nation for RP.

What is allowed:
Islamic Tadjikistan was for instance used only for its name. Islamic Tadjikistan was once part of Tadjikistan and played a role in the civil war. The Islamic Tadjikistan population was dropped and it was considered part of Tadjikistan (part of its population).
Amyntos
29-09-2005, 14:36
Amyntos what we want is a good examble of your rp skills, abd we need to know what you really plan on doing with the nation. Ie. keeping, flag changes ect.
Well for my "rp skills" I guess you can check out this thread and draw your own verdict.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=446543

Regarding the flag and the like. I'd change the title of the nation to something like "Colony" or "Proectorate" to indicate that it is a client state of Amyntos, and change Amyntos' title to "Empire" I guess.

The flag would likewise be changed to something resembling Amyntos' flage to indicate its subordination to the Amyntos government.

I will chose decisions in the daily questions that brutally oppress the population to maximise GDP.

[OCC: RP wise,] The nation will be forced to raise and equip auxiliary divisions to augment my armed forces. Likewise their industry will be totally geared to war production for my armies, with the bare minimum off emphasis on the local population.

I’ll use the civilians as a huge pool of cheap labour. Most immediately I can use the civilians as a manpower reserve to go into the cities of Isterven and Cygnus, which have only just been nuclear bombed, to begin the clean up. Doubtless thousands will die to radiological poisoning, but that is irrelevant to the Amyntos government.

[OCC: Tadjikistan, fair enough, that makes sense. But would it violate the rules to, rather than simply say "haha I have a billion strong puppet, I invade and you lose" to rather say that you have a client state which you somehow gained (through rp, not by just "creating one") and that you gain the advantages that this would give in real life such as the ability to exploit its resources, force their civilians into your army, etc?)
Colorado and Texas
29-09-2005, 14:41
In mine and my familes region(yes it is me, my fiancee, was my little brother, and my friend) of Wasted America, you will see my rp nation Colorado and Texas, and two just for fun nations Point Alamo and Out Post Canada, there are my fiancess nations of Krystal Realm(rp nation) new krystal realm and the new one of Wolfs Run, my little brother ran Fortress Boulder. My friend runs The Fiefdom of Bob the Bass, The United States of John Elway Dealerships and his rp one The Republic of The Californian People.
Tadjikistan
29-09-2005, 14:43
[OCC: Tadjikistan, fair enough, that makes sense. But would it violate the rules to, rather than simply say "haha I have a billion strong puppet, I invade and you lose" to rather say that you have a client state which you somehow gained (through rp, not by just "creating one") and that you gain the advantages that this would give in real life such as the ability to exploit its resources, force their civilians into your army, etc?)

If a main nation and a puppetnation are used in the same thread with their population combined it is called puppetwanking, even if this is RPed or the nation was given to you by someone who RPed with it.
Amyntos
29-09-2005, 14:46
[OOC: Either way it doesn't bother me much, rp is about storytelling, not "winning". Thought it might make it fun to have poor civilians from another country used as cannon fodder while conducting human wave tactics against the enemy or cleaning up a nuclear ground zero minutes after a bombardment without protective clothing or working to death in factories to create ball bearings equipment, etc during a bitter war, that's all.

I see your point though, I'll take it on board. Cheers.]
Colorado and Texas
29-09-2005, 14:50
If you think about it, after a war is said and done you can always use your puppet to do the other things you would not want your main land doing. I think. Hell I just want to get rid of it to someone who would use it. Not wanting to deleat it after all these months watching my brother use it.
Amyntos
29-09-2005, 14:52
OCC:

Well, after the war when the population had served out its usefulness, assuming I won (or more likely stalemated) of course, I was thinking of exterminating the population and settling it with Amyntonians. ;)
Colorado and Texas
29-09-2005, 14:55
heh evil. Well if no one else wants it in the next hour or so I guess you win it.
Amyntos
29-09-2005, 15:01
OCC:

Nah never mind, I don't want to cause trouble. If people don't like puppets in rps then that is fine.

I guess I'll go back to working my own civilians to death, it hasn't failed me so far. Besides, it simply would not be feasible to occupy a nation so large (and probably far away) during such a brutal war as the one I am in.
Tadjikistan
29-09-2005, 15:07
Fortress boulder could become your new main nation but its understandable that you prefer the name Amyntos for roleplay.

Thats what i meant when i said 'If he wants it' in my first post.
Colorado and Texas
29-09-2005, 15:08
good argument, if you want it I guess it is yours. I will send you the password all you have to do is pull it out of my region.
Colorado and Texas
29-09-2005, 15:10
Fortress boulder could become your new main nation but its understandable that you prefer the name Amyntos for roleplay.

Thats what i meant when i said 'If he wants it' in my first post.Might as well let the new nation have it eh?
Mindlesheim
29-09-2005, 15:10
If he decides that he doesn't want it after all then Mindlesheim would rather like to have an empire, and this looks like a good way of starting one. We would send in administrators to govern wisely, put the local economy into better order and gradually introduce a more representative form of government. (The main benefit to us for doing this, apart from probable increases in international respect & national self-respect, would be the acquisition of this large extra market for our industries...)
Colorado and Texas
29-09-2005, 15:15
Amyntos and Mindlesheim it is a toss up between your two nations. What I need to make my dision (sp) is a list of your stats. Then Tadjikistan I will leave the final discion up to you.(sp)
Amyntos
29-09-2005, 15:16
If he decides that he doesn't want it after all

[OCC: Sorry did you mean me? Ok, my formal reply to Colorado and Texas is below:]

IC:

Most Secret/Encryption Level 6

The Protectorate of Amyntos respectfully declines your offer of taking custody of the meddlesome region of Boulder. We have already got enough problems attempting to exterminate our own Elthian minorities and don't much relish the thought of having to do the same with a far larger people.

We do have a suggestion though. Our nation has recently found that Sarin nerve gas is an excellent method of disposing of these types of problems. We have used it to great effect in our own local “policing” issues.
Colorado and Texas
29-09-2005, 15:21
Mindlesheim well I guess you win if you want it the nation if yours.
Mindlesheim
29-09-2005, 15:24
What sort of stats do you want?
If you just mean the basic ratings then the Principality of Mindlesheim is currently classified as a 'Right-wing Utopia' with a population of 96 million, and with
Civil Rights:Few / Economy:Very Strong / Political Freedoms:Very Good...
Mindlesheim
29-09-2005, 15:28
Thank you. I'll collect it later on today, if that's okay...
Colorado and Texas
29-09-2005, 15:29
ah a nation after my own heart. Fortress bouylder is yours. Just change the password after I send it to you and the e-mail addy, you can ither keep it in my region or not up to you. Just give me an aye if ya want it.
Tadjikistan
29-09-2005, 15:30
Actually CT the last word is yours as you are the one giving it away. But I suppose that if Mindlesheim wants it he can get it since he's the only contender left.