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The Fallen Races military headquarters announced today that, due to exceptional results, TFR will now ship and arm all of it's men with Rail Rifles. It will also produce them for other nations, besides nations at war or with a economic embargo.

Specifications:

Appearance: AK-47 with 4 electric rails replacing the barrel.
Caliber shot: 9mm
Clip size: 75
Power for rails: Power pack recharged by heat of rounds fired
Rounds Per Minute: 10,000 (theoretical - Practical is 2250 RPM.)
Cost: $450 (includes all metioned here)

OOC: Is there something that needs to be balanced?

i wish to order 6 million will this be possable?

6 million Rail Rifles...

6,000,000 @ $450 a pop = $2.7 billion.

= About 11.6 billion blade edges (TFR's currency)

Order confirmed.

Shipping time is two weeks (2 RL hours).

We will order 1000000 million of these weapons please
$450 Million dollars

1 million million?

That's a trillion.

$450 trillion please.

(OOC: Alright... A miniature rail-gun. I have a few questions for you, and I suggest you give more stats and answer these, otherwise you'll get spammed by people saying this is horrible:

What exactly powers the electro-magnetic rails to fire the shell?
How do you keep the rails cools? If they're not cooled, the gun will melt in about two shots.
How did you reinforce the AK-47 structure to withstand the firing?)

(OOC: Alright... A miniature rail-gun. I have a few questions for you, and I suggest you give more stats and answer these, otherwise you'll get spammed by people saying this is horrible:

What exactly powers the electro-magnetic rails to fire the shell?
How do you keep the rails cools? If they're not cooled, the gun will melt in about two shots.
How did you reinforce the AK-47 structure to withstand the firing?)

1. The heat from the rounds charges a heat > electricy converter, lining the rails.

2. Water coooling then takes what cannot be used and dissipiates it.

3. The structure is reinforced with carbon nanotubes in key places to prevent the gun coming apart.

There $450 each and i want one million units coming to 450million dollars.

OOC: Ok. You just said a million million. I got confused.

Order shipped in 12 RL hours. (5 NS Days)

There are MAJOR problems with this.

First off, you would require a massively massive (for lack of a better term) power source, one that certainly could not fit on a rifle. The gun would also generate huge amounts of heat, and would melt the skin of your soldiers hands to the friggin' thing after 1 or 2 shots.

Also, how the heck do you plan on mounting a water cooling system into an AK-47 that has a big ass power source and still keep it hand held? So far you're looking at a device much bigger than a rifle.

Oh, and nevermind that carbon nanotubes are HORRIBLY expensive, in fact you can probably buy several brand new main battle tanks for the cost of a rifle outfitted with carbon nanotubes. I also do not think that they can bond with anything, although I'm sure someone else can confirm this.

I don't know how you manage to cram this all this into a shitty old rifle such as the AK-47, but it is definately a godmod. I don't think any of the future tech nations even have rifle based rail drivers....

There are MAJOR problems with this.

First off, you would require a massively massive (for lack of a better term) power source, one that certainly could not fit on a rifle. The gun would also generate huge amounts of heat, and would melt the skin of your soldiers hands to the friggin' thing after 1 or 2 shots.

Also, how the heck do you plan on mounting a water cooling system into an AK-47 that has a big ass power source and still keep it hand held? So far you're looking at a device much bigger than a rifle.

Oh, and nevermind that carbon nanotubes are HORRIBLY expensive, in fact you can probably buy several brand new main battle tanks for the cost of a rifle outfitted with carbon nanotubes. I also do not think that they can bond with anything, although I'm sure someone else can confirm this.

I don't know how you manage to cram this all this into a shitty old rifle such as the AK-47, but it is definately a godmod. I don't think any of the future tech nations even have rifle based rail drivers....

(OOC: I was going to say it nicer, but AMF is right. I'm not even FT and know that rail rifles are an extreme godmod.)

I don't know how you manage to cram this all this into a shitty old rifle such as the AK-47, but it is definately a godmod. I don't think any of the future tech nations even have rifle based rail drivers....

Hem. My other nation (Otagia) uses rail-rifles. There's a lot you can do with a giga-conductor and a rather high-tech battery.

OOC: Besides all the power that a rail gun would take (it would have to be nuclear powered and the power from a reactor would have to be provided courtesy of compulsators), for this to be even remotely effective against Tomahawks or *much* faster missiles, you're going to have to have some form of laser, GPS, or other form of modern guidance system that's going to add bulk to this.

Maybe sometime in about 50 years or so, there may be a rail rifle in someone's army or the power issues will be adequately solved for it to be an effective weapon on a battlefield. But in the MT window (of roughly 2005-2020), that is highly unlikely to happen.

OOC: Can a mod lock this? Before I get more killed than I already have been.

OOC: Besides all the power that a rail gun would take (it would have to be nuclear powered and the power from a reactor would have to be provided courtesy of compulsators), for this to be even remotely effective against Tomahawks or *much* faster missiles, you're going to have to have some form of laser, GPS, or other form of modern guidance system that's going to add bulk to this.

Maybe sometime in about 50 years or so, there may be a rail rifle in someone's army or the power issues will be adequately solved for it to be an effective weapon on a battlefield. But in the MT window (of roughly 2005-2020), that is highly unlikely to happen.

Actually, if your capacitor tech is good, a railgun can be powered with that instead of a reactor power source. But even then it's still too large to fit into a rifle, at least in PMT.

If you use the right kind of insulation and heat-energy converters, then the heat problem also isn't an issue.

As for powering this: I'm sorry, that's ZPM range.

OOC: Can a mod lock this? Before I get more killed than I already have been.OOC: If you want a Moderator to lock this thread, you'll need to make the request in the Moderation forum.

I'm FT, and I use all rail-rifles. nobody's ever bothered to question if its legit, heckm I actually thought this was FT. The trick is to use an extremely small round, and all my guns are horrendously expensive. The cheapest assault rifle being well over $1000. But its worth it for the ko-wality.

I use a Sniper cannon design rifles , but they are slow and only good for stratigic use only.