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OOC: Looking to form a continent

The Thames River
25-09-2005, 21:39
I'm interested in making a continent to put my nation on. Of course, I don't want to be all by myself here. So I'm wondering if other nations want to put their countries on this continent along with me, and probally join in RP's having to do with the landmass. I'm looking for about four or five nations to be on it, including me. Some things to keep in mind if you would like to be on it:
1. I'll be making the maps for the continent. Its just easier to make everything uniform if its on one computer.
2. We will decide as a group about the distribution of resources around the area. This is so every nation doesn't have all the resources they'd ever need. You will need to trade with the other nations on the continent.
3. Please make sure you have some experience RPing. At least as good as I am, which isn't hard if you have seen some of my threads under Ramissle. (Examples, The Sicily War, the embargo on the RWC, so on and so forth)
4. Please make sure you are going to be active. It's quite annoying trying to invade someone, or start diplomatic talks if they arent there.
5. Tell me what kind of area you want your country to be, as well as the weather, and stuff like that.

Thats it. If your interested, just post something here.
Zunderland
25-09-2005, 21:45
i am wishing to join, i imagne my country to be a dock side citystate sourounded by mountainious terrain eg room to grow...

also would there be tatical aandmilatry back if another country needed it
The Thames River
25-09-2005, 21:51
Ok. Do you have any experience RPing though? Not to be rude, but I kind of wanted some people with experience, and a reputation. Don't look at the post count and think I'm new too, I've been here a long time.
About the military support, not exactly. This is basically like any other continent in RL. The countries are there, and they happen to have neighbors. What they choose to do, or not to do with them, is completley up to them.
Zunderland
25-09-2005, 21:53
i do yeah but im currantly getting used to the way its done on this forum...
Azazia
25-09-2005, 21:54
I wouldn't want to move my whole nation to a new continent, as the history and geography are based on being an archipelago nation, but the United Kingdom of Azazia is currently expanding through colonization, and I would not be averse to founding a colony on this landmass that would begin trading and diplomatic relations with its neighbours. If that meets your approval - and if it doesn't I fully understand - then the land would have to be adjacent to the sea with a nice fordable river, deep and sheltered harbour and open farmland and moutains for mining (obviously not self-sufficient given your points, but I'd need something of serious value to be an impetus for the investment of resources.) I merely give those reasons as alluded to just before, IC reasons for the colony existing.
The Thames River
25-09-2005, 21:57
Well, I'm not trying to make this some kind of elite club, but I sort of imagined this as a continent with a couple well known experienced nations interacting in ways II usually doesn't see (like trade, and stuff like that). Really, it is nothing personal, but I think it would be better if you got a couple RP's under your belt before doing something like this.
The Thames River
25-09-2005, 22:00
I wouldn't want to move my whole nation to a new continent, as the history and geography are based on being an archipelago nation, but the United Kingdom of Azazia is currently expanding through colonization, and I would not be averse to founding a colony on this landmass that would begin trading and diplomatic relations with its neighbours. If that meets your approval - and if it doesn't I fully understand - then the land would have to be adjacent to the sea with a nice fordable river, deep and sheltered harbour and open farmland and moutains for mining (obviously not self-sufficient given your points, but I'd need something of serious value to be an impetus for the investment of resources.) I merely give those reasons as alluded to just before, IC reasons for the colony existing.
Ok, thats fine. I just need to know if you will be interacting with the other nations a lot. Thats the key thing here, I'm trying to make this a really realistic place to RP.
Beth Gellert
25-09-2005, 22:00
Hmm. Colour me interested.

Beth Gellert sort of exists in two realities, at the moment. One uses real-world geography and populations, and is in the insular RP group A Modern World, but the other is based in the main NS world, as it were, and only has part of its geography worked out.

I don't know if this would ruin BG in your eyes as relates to this idea of yours, but at the moment the mainstream BG doesn't entirely... exist. There's something called The Commonwealth, which is a radical communist/anarchist society in and around Finland and populated by just a few tens of millions of people, and then there's The Kingdom of the Geletians, which is supposed to exist on a fictional land mass and be populated by over five billion rampaging Celts, who are about to join with the Commonwealth and complete my nation.

That is taking place in this thread linked here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=443533) in case you want to see what I'm on about, or how I write.

Erm, so I'm interested in having the Kingdom of the Geletians on this continent, but it would have to be a really massive continent -as in tens of millions of square kilometres (and only able to fit on the giant earth that is Nation States!)- or there won't be space for my 5bln+ nation to be involved.

Probably the climate of the land I'd want would be... northern European. Cold temperate, I suppose. It'd be characterised by green valleys and a great deal of mountains, though they don't have to be of the epic height of something like the Himalayas... a few hundred to one or two thousand metres would be sufficient. Obviously, since I'd be hoping for... oh, well, in that thread I refered to the Kingdom of the Geletians as being roughly ten million square kilometres (and that still gives it a population density above most real-life nations! So I can't go all that much smaller!).

So, there you go, I'm interested at the moment. Probably shouldn't waste more time typing now, in case you're not interested!
The Thames River
25-09-2005, 22:05
Thats perfect, exactly what I want. I want nations that don't really have a permenant location, but still have the ability to do some really good RPing. I just need about 3 more people, and I'll start drawing up some early maps.
Beth Gellert
25-09-2005, 22:07
Heh, perfect! Now I can rope people into caring about my long-winded Geletian RP before the revolution sweeps over it :D

I mean... cool.
Azazia
25-09-2005, 22:10
I would intend on working with the continental neighbours, very much so, because initially cooperation would be vital to the survival of the colony. What I mean is that big supplies will have to be shipped in from the UK. For example, initial supplies of heavy machinery and consumables will be shipped in via freighters and such, but once neighbours and trade deals are established, the colony can begin to lay down rail, sea, air, and road transport networks to further integrate into the community. The way I would envision it is all the pre-established nations having a unformed "nation" so to speak on their borders. I would sincerely hope that wouldn't lead to an automatic invasion and such, but rather a better opportunity to RP economic development between rich and poor areas, between developed and under-developed areas. Because, quite simply, it would be far cheaper to buy... a computer manufactured in this colony's neighbour than to order one from home, have it shipped overseas, than sold in a nascent town. In short, cooperation and involvement would be a necessity.
Beth Gellert
25-09-2005, 22:14
Should be interesting, Azazia. Fully established, the Igovian Soviet Commonwealth of Beth Gellert would probably try to promote revolution in your colony, and generally cause trouble for it, but as things stand, the Kingdom of the Geletians is likely to be delighted to trade with it, and then the coming of revolution to Geletia will actually matter to nations such as yours.

Uhm, and now it's half ten in the evening and I've not eaten, today [wanders off]
The Thames River
25-09-2005, 22:15
At Azazia: Exactly. You'll probally find thats what will end up happening with this continent, countries helping each other. Either that, or we'll get a couple alliances fighting for the control of some key resource. Either way, It'll be good.
At Beth Gellert: About the size of your country, thats perfectly fine. I could probally get you in at like 12 million square kilometers. As long as your country isn't bigger than Russia or something outragous like that, its fine.
Azazia
25-09-2005, 22:17
actually i've been looking forward to eventually starting a conflict between the UK home government and that of a distant colony, not necessarily a violent armed conflict, but a war of words and of not obeying directives, et cetera... and BG revolutionaries could be just the pretext I'd need.
Beth Gellert
25-09-2005, 22:17
Ah, works for me. Cheers.
If in some months from now the population is becoming unsustainable, it'll be an in-character not out-of-character problem with which to deal.

[really leaves, this time]
Xeraph
25-09-2005, 22:31
This is an excellent idea. I have been interested in getting away from the 'NS as usual' thing for a while.

Two things: I obviously can't move Xeraph to the new continent, so would the creation of a new nation be okay?
The other thing is my job. I'm on the road 2 weeks at a time, and therefore wouldn't be RPing on a daily basis. Is this OK?

Thanks
The Thames River
25-09-2005, 22:39
This is an excellent idea. I have been interested in getting away from the 'NS as usual' thing for a while.

Two things: I obviously can't move Xeraph to the new continent, so would the creation of a new nation be okay?
The other thing is my job. I'm on the road 2 weeks at a time, and therefore wouldn't be RPing on a daily basis. Is this OK?

Thanks
Both are OK. Just make sure you let us know before you leave, and we'll make sure we get you in a position were you are absolutly needed in every event (like giving you all the oil and stuff like that. I actually didn't really think of this all by myself. It stemmed off of Praetonias idea a long time ago about an NS earth that everybody was on. I'm just taking the uniformity of maps to a new level, and making the distribution of resources realistic.
EDIT: I'm going to need to know what kind of area you want.
Kriegorgrad
25-09-2005, 22:47
OoC: I'd be interested in this quite a lot Thames, however, I wouldn't want to shift my whole nation, rather about 30 million of my citizens to form a colony.

Thanks, I hope you consider me.

P.S Sorry for the short, rubbish post, I'm off very soon and I just wanted to display my interest
The Thames River
25-09-2005, 22:53
Thats perfectly fine. Like I said before, just make sure you interact with the other nations a lot.
Beth Gellert
26-09-2005, 00:18
Oh, just thought that I should add this: since most of BG is going to be based on the continent, translating to millions of square kilometres, it probably won't be a problem, but just incase, I want to note that I would like some coastline, since previously I thought that I was going to end up on my own on an island, and had already begun working up a military that includes a fairly substantial navy.
Like I say, with such a large territory I'm sure we'd have ended up with at least one port anyway, but best to say now so I don't have to whine after you've spent time making a continental map :)
Osoantipatico
26-09-2005, 00:25
I'd be interested in joining. Only thing is ive designed my nation to beland-locked desert.
Xeraph
26-09-2005, 00:29
Both are OK. Just make sure you let us know before you leave, and we'll make sure we get you in a position were you are absolutly needed in every event (like giving you all the oil and stuff like that. I actually didn't really think of this all by myself. It stemmed off of Praetonias idea a long time ago about an NS earth that everybody was on. I'm just taking the uniformity of maps to a new level, and making the distribution of resources realistic.
EDIT: I'm going to need to know what kind of area you want.


Cool, I'll create the nation shortly. BTW, what's the name of the continent and the region it's in? Need to know so I can move new nation from the assigned region to the new one. It's always best to create a new region when greating a new nation/nations......trust me. I almost found that out the hard way.

Type of area: land-locked, very mountainous, high desert/alpine (like Utah, Colorado, etc.)
The Thames River
26-09-2005, 00:39
Hmm.... Thats a good idea to make a new region for it. I'll make one soon.
At Osoantipatico: Ok. Do you have any experience?
Oh, and btw, does your nation mean bear nice in spanish? Just wondering....
Mythras
26-09-2005, 00:55
The Dominion of Mythras:

Government: Tribal/Clan Monarchy

Ruler: Dangoth of Clan Blydd

Number of Clans: 6

Number of Tribes: 4

Area: 720,000 sq. miles of mostly mountainous terrain. Approx 55,000 acres of farmland

Main Export: War

Main Import: Spoils of War/Captives for slavery and sacrifice

Other Exports: Grain, root crops. Also numerous sapphire, emerald, and ruby mines.

Other Imports: Beef, pork, vegetables. Being a mountainous country, venison, etc, is plentiful.

Beliefs: Worship of the God of War, Mithras. Rites from group to group vary slightly, but pretty much a religion of personal worthiness as to battle prowess. Some clans/tribes utilize human sacrifice.



ooc> Thames, check your TG's.
Osoantipatico
26-09-2005, 01:02
OCC: No, it means "Mean Bear"
yes, i have experence- im a billion + nation.
The Thames River
26-09-2005, 01:02
Checked. For all who are interested, the region name is Sarnia.
Edit: Oh, ok. Go ahead and join the region. I guess I'll have to password protect it later, but I'm too lazy to start sending a bunch of TGs.
Beth Gellert
26-09-2005, 01:04
Hmm, okay. I will probably move back and forth between that region and my current one, since I've quite a bit invested where I already am (happens after being in one game for two and a half years!).
Mythras
26-09-2005, 01:18
Checked. For all who are interested, the region name is Sarnia.
Edit: Oh, ok. Go ahead and join the region. I guess I'll have to password protect it later, but I'm too lazy to start sending a bunch of TGs.


Mythras now moved to Sarnia. What's the name of the continent, and how many nations will be in it?
The Thames River
26-09-2005, 01:20
Mythras now moved to Sarnia. What's the name of the continent, and how many nations will be in it?
The name of the continent is probally going to be Sarnia, unless someone suggests something better, and I think like 7 nations will be in it. I'm almost done with a starting map, which will probally be changed.
Osoantipatico
26-09-2005, 01:23
Can I live in my current region as use the continet for RPing?Or do i have to move to Sarnia?
The Thames River
26-09-2005, 01:29
You can, but we might have discussions on the regional board. It'd just be easier for you and us if you were in the region.
The Thames River
26-09-2005, 01:37
Here is the map, with grids and some boundries.
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6669/sarniaboundriesgrid3ln.png
If you want anything changed, just ask.
Sarzonia
26-09-2005, 01:38
I'd like to get in as a colony with a lot of coastline.
The Thames River
26-09-2005, 01:42
Ok. Would you like a drier, more mountainous region or a more temperate, flat area?
Azazia
26-09-2005, 01:44
Excellent map, would I be able to fill in more minor details like small mountain ranges, forests, et cetera. Also, I don't know if you thought about it, but any idea about the source and direction of prevailing winds, ocean currents in addition to other climate-related things, biomes, average temperatures, et cetera?

Seriously though, nice map... I'll get to work on a more detailed version of where the major colony sites will be and such later tonight. Thanks for the map. Good work.
Mythras
26-09-2005, 01:47
The name of the continent is probally going to be Sarnia, unless someone suggests something better, and I think like 7 nations will be in it. I'm almost done with a starting map, which will probally be changed.

Sarnia as continent name is good: keeps it simple. Also, as to the map, am I correct in assuming that the larger green area is the as yet unclaimed area of the continent? And if so, is it or will it be subject to annexation by existing nations?

BTW, excellent job on the map. Just a glance at it brought to mind several potential war posts for the future.
The Thames River
26-09-2005, 01:49
Excellent map, would I be able to fill in more minor details like small mountain ranges, forests, et cetera. Also, I don't know if you thought about it, but any idea about the source and direction of prevailing winds, ocean currents in addition to other climate-related things, biomes, average temperatures, et cetera?

Seriously though, nice map... I'll get to work on a more detailed version of where the major colony sites will be and such later tonight. Thanks for the map. Good work.
I am going to have so many maps about this stuff your not going to beleive it. I already got some of it set in my head, but I do have a really bad map all done showing were the larger mountain range is and the smaller rolling mountains. I'm going to do a rough draft of the currents and winds in a little bit.
The Thames River
26-09-2005, 01:51
At Mythras: Yep, the green is unclaimed.
Here is the really, really crappy version of the mountain map. The one I'm going to do later will look more like a topographical map. The yellow is low mountains, and the olive is higher mountains.
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/541/sarniamountainsroughdraft5bv.png
Azazia
26-09-2005, 01:54
sweetness, I just happen to love geography (physical, political, and human) and so... yep, maps are fun. *whistles* lots of new maps to look forward to... woohoo
Mythras
26-09-2005, 01:58
At Mythras: Yep, the green is unclaimed.
Here is the really, really crappy version of the mountain map. The one I'm going to do later will look more like a topographical map. The yellow is low mountains, and the olive is higher mountains.
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/541/sarniamountainsroughdraft5bv.png

Again, great job on mtns. What type of tech are we talking about? I'd imagine mostly MT. Might be a good idea to leave spaceships etc out of this.
Stick to 20th century armament.
Mythras
26-09-2005, 02:01
At Mythras: Yep, the green is unclaimed.
Here is the really, really crappy version of the mountain map. The one I'm going to do later will look more like a topographical map. The yellow is low mountains, and the olive is higher mountains.
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/541/sarniamountainsroughdraft5bv.png

The yellow part are the lower mtns and perhaps topographical elements such as plateaus, mesas, etc?
The Thames River
26-09-2005, 02:03
Here is the air currents map:
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9460/sarniawindcurrents0hp.png
and the ocean currents map:
http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/5810/sarniacurrents5gx.png
Really, I'm in a rush, these will be better.
Mythras, definaltly MT. I don't like dealing with technology I don't understand. :)
Edit: Yep, the yellow is the lower stuff. With the mountains like this, and the currents like this, I'm pretty sure in RL the area to the west of the big mountains would be more desert like, and the area to the east, including the low mountains would be much wetter.
Beth Gellert
26-09-2005, 02:03
Cool... mountainous border with an imperial colony... that should see a lot of activity in the future!

Oh, hm, for what it matters, BG is almost entirely modern tech. I get a bit nervous when hypersonic sub orbital hyper plasma stealth doo dads and fifty bajillion tonne warships start zipping about, but I suppose that I can't really tell other people how to run their nations (sadly!).
I'd say that the only potentially controversial elements of our technology are in the WIG programme, that is Wing-In-Groundeffect vehicles, which exist in reality and have done for years, but aren't so widely applied as with the Commonwealth. That said, I think that I'm going to temper them a bit, in future... focus more on the technical and practical limitations of the projects given strictly modern science (in other words, crash a few of them!).
Osoantipatico
26-09-2005, 02:07
I agree. My army is things that exist in use right now, or could, but people havent built them. I also dont like it when A Plasma Nuke is launched from a stealt-hyperioncannon-sattilite.
The Thames River
26-09-2005, 02:11
Once Sarzonia and Kriegorgrad get back to me, I'll start on the better maps. Until then, does anybody see anything they'd like changed, anything at all?
EDIT: I think I can fit in like 3 more people besides them, so if anyone else is interested, please tell.
Sarzonia
26-09-2005, 02:15
Ok. Would you like a drier, more mountainous region or a more temperate, flat area?
More temperate, flat area.
Mythras
26-09-2005, 02:16
Here is the air currents map:
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9460/sarniawindcurrents0hp.png
and the ocean currents map:
http://img273.imageshack.us/img273/5810/sarniacurrents5gx.png
Really, I'm in a rush, these will be better.
Mythras, definaltly MT. I don't like dealing with technology I don't understand. :)
Edit: Yep, the yellow is the lower stuff. With the mountains like this, and the currents like this, I'm pretty sure in RL the area to the west of the big mountains would be more desert like, and the area to the east, including the low mountains would be much wetter.

winds blowing east to west and currents generally counter-clockwise. works for me.
Azazia
26-09-2005, 02:18
by and large the Royal Armed Services feature modern tech armaments. Slight exagerations are things that could likely be produced by nations economically more powerful than the US if there was a need for them. I.e., the big one would be my three super-dreadnaughts with ETC guns and a few laser CIWS units. In my opinion, an SD could be built today, but because of its cost, and because nobody else has anything against which an SD's firepower is required, they simply aren't eve considered.

What else... I have an orbiting space station, a bigger souped up version of the ISS that has robotic construction arms to build smaller interstellar travel ships. This doesn't mean they can go faster than light, or even have artificial gravity, just building shuttles (called frigates because they then sound more powerful) that don't require large boosters to get into space... Along those lines, I have formed the nascent Royal Star Marines and Royal Star Navy. If anything their only use is that specialised pods, modernised stealthier versions of Apollo modules can be dropped from the station and these few shuttles and then land in foreign countries with little to no warning. Frequently these are for small-scale special ops missions simply because deployment of said forces is extremely expensive.... I think that's about all the stuff I use beyond current RL equipment... I think
Azazia
26-09-2005, 02:20
i like these winds i get nice precip and warmish waters, big bonus for immigration, read rapid population growth.
Mythras
26-09-2005, 02:21
Once Sarzonia and Kriegorgrad get back to me, I'll start on the better maps. Until then, does anybody see anything they'd like changed, anything at all?
EDIT: I think I can fit in like 3 more people besides them, so if anyone else is interested, please tell.


if Sarz and Krieg join in, that would bring this to the 7 nations you originally mentioned. Why not leave it at that, and leave some large "unincorporated" areas unclaimed? That would open up such potential posts such as Lost Cities, sub-human tribes of flesh-eating creatures...etc. might make it a little more challenging as to writing skills, and would not relegate all of the posts just to the same old fighting each other. sort of a thread within a thread....
Osoantipatico
26-09-2005, 02:21
I'm fine with the millitary, if everyone else is. The Royal Star Marines can't board my M1A2, so it dosen't bother me.
Also, the "unincorperated ares" sound like a good idea.
Yafor 2
26-09-2005, 02:22
If possible, can I please have a colony (just a tiny amount of land) in the west, if possible? Only tiny, mind you, just a colony. Also, I'll probably move a puppet to the region.
The Thames River
26-09-2005, 02:24
Good point. I guess we can keep it like it is then, and that will be ok. Here is the updated map:
http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/632/sarniaboundriesgrid8rh.png
I added a little tiny bit to mine, and added Sarzonia.
EDIT: At Yafor 2: Yeah, that would be ok. I don't think 8 would be too much. Your area would be a sort of desert area, is that ok with you?
Mythras
26-09-2005, 02:27
by and large the Royal Armed Services feature modern tech armaments. Slight exagerations are things that could likely be produced by nations economically more powerful than the US if there was a need for them. I.e., the big one would be my three super-dreadnaughts with ETC guns and a few laser CIWS units. In my opinion, an SD could be built today, but because of its cost, and because nobody else has anything against which an SD's firepower is required, they simply aren't eve considered.

What else... I have an orbiting space station, a bigger souped up version of the ISS that has robotic construction arms to build smaller interstellar travel ships. This doesn't mean they can go faster than light, or even have artificial gravity, just building shuttles (called frigates because they then sound more powerful) that don't require large boosters to get into space... Along those lines, I have formed the nascent Royal Star Marines and Royal Star Navy. If anything their only use is that specialised pods, modernised stealthier versions of Apollo modules can be dropped from the station and these few shuttles and then land in foreign countries with little to no warning. Frequently these are for small-scale special ops missions simply because deployment of said forces is extremely expensive.... I think that's about all the stuff I use beyond current RL equipment... I think


I can see where this small bit of 'progressive tech' would be no big deal to a nation your size in 'normal' NS threads. I have all that and more (I'm Xeraph in NS). However, a lot of the players here are either new or young. As much as I'd like to use Electrolaserblastercombohypergruntingthingys, why don't we just stick to automatic weapons, tanks, etc. Maybe a laser or two wouldn't be a big deal.....
Yafor 2
26-09-2005, 02:30
EDIT: At Yafor 2: Yeah, that would be ok. I don't think 8 would be too much. Your area would be a sort of desert area, is that ok with you?

Do you mind if I get only a partial desert? I have enough deserts in YAfor 2.
Beth Gellert
26-09-2005, 02:36
I think that since Azazia is a good RPer, and isn't apparently obsessed with techwankery, if I may say that, it is workable. True, he has SDs, which I personally despise and would tend to ignore, but only three of them, so hopefully they would be a minor part of this continent's dealings. I'm sure he'd be reasonable in consulting with other players before pulling big tech out of the bag just for the sake of winning, eh?

Like, if he and I got into a war, perhaps the Empire would send an SD to intimidate us and protect the colony, but BG would maybe fight back with WIG raids that the SD would struggle to prevent. Against other players, maybe neither of us would do that.

Personally, I don't like ETC guns and stuff like that, either, but if they're not pervasive I'm okay with it. I know that a lot of NS uses them on their tanks, but I just think that's pushing into the near future, and that's not what I'm here to play, you know? (Our best tanks will soon have 125mm high-pressure long-barrel guns, making them a step ahead of the likes of Abrams and so on as they stand, but using basically the exact same technology.)

Edit: I suppose I'm just keen to see that we don't completely isolate this continent from the rest of NS by imposing really strict rules like you might find on Earth[bignumber]. Obviously I want realism and only good RPers, but I think it would be a shame if it became impossible to interact beyond the continent because of our own rules on technology. So long as everyone plays nice, we ought to be okay.
The Thames River
26-09-2005, 02:36
Do you mind if I get only a partial desert? I have enough deserts in YAfor 2.
Hmm... To do that I would have to put you in that middleish area around Sarzonia or around Xeraphs puppet. Is that ok? Other wise I could put you on that big penninsula at the bottom.
Mythras
26-09-2005, 02:38
I think that since Azazia is a good RPer, and isn't apparently obsessed with techwankery, if I may say that, it is workable. True, he has SDs, which I personally despise and would tend to ignore, but only three of them, so hopefully they would be a minor part of this continent's dealings. I'm sure he'd be reasonable in consulting with other players before pulling big tech out of the bag just for the sake of winning, eh?

Like, if he and I got into a war, perhaps the Empire would send an SD to intimidate us and protect the colony, but BG would maybe fight back with WIG raids that the SD would struggle to prevent. Against other players, maybe neither of us would do that.

Personally, I don't like ETC guns and stuff like that, either, but if they're not pervasive I'm okay with it. I know that a lot of NS uses them on their tanks, but I just think that's pushing into the near future, and that's not what I'm here to play, you know? (Our best tanks will soon have 125mm high-pressure long-barrel guns, making them a step ahead of the likes of Abrams and so on as they stand, but using basically the exact same technology.)


Well said, BG. I'm cool with it.
Yafor 2
26-09-2005, 02:39
Sure. In fact, since I don't REALLY need to be West, how about between Sarzonia and Beth Gellert? My Yafor 2 nation has fairly good relations with Sarzonia, and I know BG from AMW. Also, I've moved a newly-made puppet (the name of my colony) to Sarnia.
Azazia
26-09-2005, 02:40
don't get me wrong, there is absolutely no reason to deploy an SD to the continent unless someone starts threatening the colony with outright invasion... but being that there are no formal non-aggression pacts yet in the books i feel obligated to at least mention the presence of three such vessels in the register of the Royal Navy. Believe me, I'd rather not see my colony devolve into a battlefield, I'm far more interested in RPing the political/economic aspects of development in an NS world.
Mythras
26-09-2005, 02:41
Hmm... To do that I would have to put you in that middleish area around Sarzonia or around Xeraphs puppet. Is that ok? Other wise I could put you on that big penninsula at the bottom.

Yes I'm Xeraph, but don't consider Mythras a puppet. I'm not going to call on Xeraph to aid me.........the Empire entering this thread would be like killing a flea with a sledgehammer (except possibly BG). I'm looking at this thread as a whole seperate thing from the usual NS thing.
The Thames River
26-09-2005, 02:45
Yes I'm Xeraph, but don't consider Mythras a puppet. I'm not going to call on Xeraph to aid me.........the Empire entering this thread would be like killing a flea with a sledgehammer (except possibly BG). I'm looking at this thread as a whole seperate thing from the usual NS thing.
Of course not. I wouldn't call in my old puppets either, that would be far too much. (not like I could anyways, since they all got deleted for inactivity.)
Anyways, here is the updated map again:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5181/sarniaboundriesgrid0zw.png
Osoantipatico
26-09-2005, 02:47
The map is really good. i have moved my diplomat puppet into the region.
Mythras
26-09-2005, 02:48
OK, couple of things:

Has everyone moved to region of sarnia?

Is Krieg in?

Is there a general theme that we can kick this off with?

Can we change the name of the thread? Present one is kinda lame......

Also, are we all starting off with roughly the same pop?
Beth Gellert
26-09-2005, 02:53
I haven't moved to the region, but I intend to visit it. If it turns out that I'm missing a lot of discussion by not being there, I may put a 'puppet' there to participate in regional discussion on BG's behalf, or possibly move there, we'll see.

I'd imagine that this will just remain as an OOC thread for the region, won't it? Probably the title doesn't matter too much.

Edit: And my understanding is that this isn't just a one-off thread or anything, Mythras... I mean, most of my population (over five billion people) will be there (with a few million currently living in and around Finland), having lived there for centuries. I think that The Thames River has it as a home for his whole nation, and just wanted said nation to have active neighbours in the world of Nation States. Presumably we'll use our listed populations, unless we choose to play smaller ones or have only colonies there, in which case it's presumably up to the player to decide what portion of his nation's population lives in said colony, no?
Azazia
26-09-2005, 02:54
i'm probably not going to move to the region, only because i have responsibilities in my current region... but i will make a concerted effort to check the region page on a nearly daily basis (my school and work schedules offer me little free time, but having no real life, i can spend most of what free time i have writing).

as for a theme and a title, to those questions i have no real answer as i'm also in the midst of editing a friend's paper and i'm suddenly consumed by genetic testing in societies. but i'm ready to go otherwise, i think...
The Thames River
26-09-2005, 02:56
OK, couple of things:

Has everyone moved to region of sarnia?

Is Krieg in?

Is there a general theme that we can kick this off with?

Can we change the name of the thread? Present one is kinda lame......
1. No, only me, you, Osoantipatico, and Yafor 2 have.
2. Yes, but hes not on the map yet, because he didn't tell me what he wanted. It was sort of a "Let me reserve something" kind of post. I'll TG him and ask what he wants.
3. Umm, if you think of one we can. I really don't want to start a "new continent found, colonize it now" kind of theme, but something else is probally fine. I think if we started something that kind of doesn't have to do with a bunch of nations just showing up in the world it would be pretty cool. Something like finding something in unclaimed territory, or a natural disaster like a typhoon.
4. There isn't really a point in making a new thread now, I think that everything else that needs to be done can be done in the region for now. I do agree, it is kind of lame.
I have to go in like 5 minutes, so if you have to get something in before tommorow at like 7 PM EST, do it quick
Mythras
26-09-2005, 02:59
BG and Az:

A puppet would be a good idea. That way all of the nations involved in the Sarnia thread will be listed in the region.

As to the title of the thread, all that would really have to be done is move the maps. We can each provide stats of some sort, and then perhaps the theme to kick it off could actually start in the unclaimed areas. A couple of expeditionary forces/patrols meet each other in the wilds, etc, and go from there. I'd really like to try to keep fighting out of it for as long as possible.
The Thames River
26-09-2005, 03:09
BG and Az:

A puppet would be a good idea. That way all of the nations involved in the Sarnia thread will be listed in the region.

As to the title of the thread, all that would really have to be done is move the maps. We can each provide stats of some sort, and then perhaps the theme to kick it off could actually start in the unclaimed areas. A couple of expeditionary forces/patrols meet each other in the wilds, etc, and go from there. I'd really like to try to keep fighting out of it for as long as possible.
Fine by me. I started posting stuff in the region, so if you could, try to put it there for now. I'm having some Jolt problems. Right now, I'm going to bed, so I'll talk to you all tommorow.
GruntsandElites
26-09-2005, 03:13
Room for one more? If you don't, that's okey, I'm just kinda lonely in my own region....

And if you do, I would like a large-ish island with mountains to one side and a small inlet to the other, with the rest meadows and plains. And it's okey if you don't have room.
Mythras
26-09-2005, 03:14
I haven't moved to the region, but I intend to visit it. If it turns out that I'm missing a lot of discussion by not being there, I may put a 'puppet' there to participate in regional discussion on BG's behalf, or possibly move there, we'll see.

I'd imagine that this will just remain as an OOC thread for the region, won't it? Probably the title doesn't matter too much.

Edit: And my understanding is that this isn't just a one-off thread or anything, Mythras... I mean, most of my population (over five billion people) will be there (with a few million currently living in and around Finland), having lived there for centuries. I think that The Thames River has it as a home for his whole nation, and just wanted said nation to have active neighbours in the world of Nation States. Presumably we'll use our listed populations, unless we choose to play smaller ones or have only colonies there, in which case it's presumably up to the player to decide what portion of his nation's population lives in said colony, no?


BG, check TG's
GruntsandElites
27-09-2005, 02:32
bump
Mythras
27-09-2005, 04:53
ooc> hope someone sees this. Where are we posting? Title? Sorry, just logged on and missed some of the TG's. Let me know.....