NationStates Jolt Archive

I know, just another boring storefront thread, right? Wrong.

I know that none of us can find all they want on the storefronts, so I wanted a place where we could all say what we want from a storefront, and hopefully, someone will see this and make a storefront for us.

This isn't a gripe/complain/moan list, just a list of what could be improved.

I just want to know what people want.

I know I want lots of American equipment, and it seems there isn't a single storefront that has all the guns I want, especially Colt weapons, and I have a really long list of stuff I could put, but that would be boring. So I'll just put the Colt weapons I want to see.

M16A4 Assault Rifle
M4A1 Carbine
M203 Grenade Launcher
AR15A2 Government Carbine
AR15A3 Tactical Carbine
CAR-15 Assault Rifle
M4 Commando
Colt Automatic Rifle
Colt Accurized Rifle
9mm Submachine Gun (model 635, I think)
Law Enforcement Carbine

The Waldenburg storefront, from a lack of things to do will try to put up anything listed here, that people have requested. For Stienbrech we have already added 4 or 5 of the Colts they ask for.

Check Asgarnieu's Military Armanent Company and DMG Military Industries. I think they have the most of the weapons you want.

Plus most people with storefronts that have guns have designed better versions than those listed.

Plus most people with storefronts that have guns have designed better versions than those listed.
I just want people to say that they want _____ so that others can come and see that and think, "Hmm, maybe I could do that and I could get money?" I know that's what you're doing, but it would be nice to see other people wanting things they can't find.

Check Asgarnieu's Military Armanent Company and DMG Military Industries. I think they have the most of the weapons you want.
OK, I'll do that.

The Waldenburg storefront, from a lack of things to do will try to put up anything listed here, that people have requested. For Stienbrech we have already added 4 or 5 of the Colts they ask for.

OK, I'll look in a minute.

Some more stuff (since no one else seems to want to do this):

Packages for various environments (i.e. forest, desert, arctic, various others)

If anyone has got lots of American stuff (I mean LOTS of it...) than tell me please.

OOC: The point raised earlier is correct. American equipment is absolute crap, especially in NS terms. Any RL equipment is horribly inadequate for NS warfare. EVERYTHING you'll be facing is more heavily armed than anything IRL. Everything is also likely to be more advanced than RL because of the massive R&D or military budgets.

Some storefronts, notably mine (Portland Iron Works (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=404832), Avalon Aerospace Corporation (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=365142), and Incorporated Ordnance Company (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=394656)) can create custom designs that fit into what you want. Several of my PIW designs in particular are custom designs that customers have asked for.

If a storefront doesn't have what you're looking for, all you have to do is ask. Just like restaurants sometimes cook a meal for you that isn't on their menu, storefronts sometimes can create a product they normally don't have for you upon request.

OOC: The point raised earlier is correct. American equipment is absolute crap, especially in NS terms. Any RL equipment is horribly inadequate for NS warfare. EVERYTHING you'll be facing is more heavily armed than anything IRL. Everything is also likely to be more advanced than RL because of the massive R&D or military budgets.

Some storefronts, notably mine (Portland Iron Works (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=404832), Avalon Aerospace Corporation], and [url=http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=394656]Incorporated Ordnance Company (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=365142)) can create custom designs that fit into what you want. Several of my PIW designs in particular are custom designs that customers have asked for.

If a storefront doesn't have what you're looking for, all you have to do is ask. Just like restaurants sometimes cook a meal for you that isn't on their menu, storefronts sometimes can create a product they normally don't have for you upon request.

While this is true, some people still like to use RL products for a vareity of reasons... the main one being that most Storefronts that create their own products become PMT, rather than MT.

While this is true, some people still like to use RL products for a vareity of reasons... the main one being that most Storefronts that create their own products become PMT, rather than MT.Well the problem with that is any Tom Dick and Harryzonia can build whatever RL equipment they wish, as hideously inadequate as it can be for NS purposes, because there are no player copyrights on RL equipment.

For instance, if I wanted to, I could have Majeristan building a Ticonderoga-class cruiser or a Type 23 destroyer. However, I decided not to because 1) The aforementioned inadequacies, 2) Majeristan is being RP'd as being poor in resources needed to build military equipment, and 3) I wanted a nation I RP'd with to spend money at my favourite storefronts besides Sarzonia's.

For the record, I've built F/A 22s for a customer at Avalon, but there are many reasons I don't offer RL equipment on my storefronts. And you'll find that I often build designs that are based on RL equipment.

OOC: While I agree with Sarzonia's comments on the relative inadequacy of American weaponry versus most weaponry on NS, I do have a few comments in defense of it. There are many younger nations who are looking to buy the cheapest military equipment available with their limited defense budget, to get the most bang for their buck, so to speak. While a larger, more established nation will undoubtedly have the defense budget to support more advanced, better-quality NS equipment (thus, they will have the equipment), many smaller nations won't go up against larger nations with better equipment (if they're smart); they'll go up against nations roughly their own size, most of which buy Cold War-era Soviet equipment because it's even cheaper than American arms.

Case in point: my preference for American arms saved my ass in the first war I ever fought. A handful of F-117As and a B-2 got away with leveling the largest airport (and main air base in wartime) in the enemy country because he was using outdated Soviet equipment. While we larger nations might discount American arms, they will still be useful to smaller countries building up their fledgling militaries.

Steinbrech, if you're looking for American arms, try the Roman Republican Military Storefront (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=412411). It's where I made all the earliest purchases for my own military, when I first started out.

OOC: Hal, wasn't that the same time period when we were both using American Naval Ships? I thought I was hot shit because I had 5in. guns on my ships... :p

OOC: Hal, wasn't that the same time period when we were both using American Naval Ships? I thought I was hot shit because I had 5in. guns on my ships... :p

[OOC: Something like that, yeah. And I was still thinking the Arleigh Burke-class was the most survivable surface vessel in the world... :p]

[OOC: Something like that, yeah. And I was still thinking the Arleigh Burke-class was the most survivable surface vessel in the world... :p]

[OOC: I may actually field a version the Arleigh Burke later, based on a large version of the Japanese version , which is a larger version than the US one. When I signed up I thought that I was fairly well in power if I could build 100 Arleigh Burkes. Then one day I looked at Praetonia's shipyards and realized that most people had frigates that could take out my destroyers. :p ]

To: Steinbrech

The Waldenburg storefront has been upgraded with the enviroment packages, two of them anyway. Please tell what I should add and if there's anything wrong with pricing.

OOC: While I agree with Sarzonia's comments on the relative inadequacy of American weaponry versus most weaponry on NS, I do have a few comments in defense of it. There are many younger nations who are looking to buy the cheapest military equipment available with their limited defense budget, to get the most bang for their buck, so to speak. While a larger, more established nation will undoubtedly have the defense budget to support more advanced, better-quality NS equipment (thus, they will have the equipment), many smaller nations won't go up against larger nations with better equipment (if they're smart); they'll go up against nations roughly their own size, most of which buy Cold War-era Soviet equipment because it's even cheaper than American arms.

Case in point: my preference for American arms saved my ass in the first war I ever fought. A handful of F-117As and a B-2 got away with leveling the largest airport (and main air base in wartime) in the enemy country because he was using outdated Soviet equipment. While we larger nations might discount American arms, they will still be useful to smaller countries building up their fledgling militaries.

Steinbrech, if you're looking for American arms, try the Roman Republican Military Storefront (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=412411). It's where I made all the earliest purchases for my own military, when I first started out.
Thanks, I'll check it out.

For the most part, we improve the American equipment (Case in point-M16A5)

OOC: Hal, wasn't that the same time period when we were both using American Naval Ships? I thought I was hot shit because I had 5in. guns on my ships...
Hmm, interesting...

OOC: Something like that, yeah. And I was still thinking the Arleigh Burke-class was the most survivable surface vessel in the world...
Actually, in RL, they are one of the best, but...

OOC: I may actually field a version the Arleigh Burke later, based on a large version of the Japanese version , which is a larger version than the US one. When I signed up I thought that I was fairly well in power if I could build 100 Arleigh Burkes. Then one day I looked at Praetonia's shipyards and realized that most people had frigates that could take out my destroyers.
Hmm, I'll have to look for that.

To: Steinbrech

The Waldenburg storefront has been upgraded with the enviroment packages, two of them anyway. Please tell what I should add and if there's anything wrong with pricing.
OK, I'll look.

Bump

Package deals. I need PACKAGE DEALS.

Package deals. I need PACKAGE DEALS.
I UNDERSTAND!!!!

THANK YOU!!!

Really, I have thought of a lot, like police, sniper, and all sorts of others. Thanks for telling us!!!

^^
You're welcome. I don't bother with non-package storefronts unless they have a really good item there.

I know, just another boring storefront thread, right? Wrong.

I know that none of us can find all they want on the storefronts, so I wanted a place where we could all say what we want from a storefront, and hopefully, someone will see this and make a storefront for us.

This isn't a gripe/complain/moan list, just a list of what could be improved.

I just want to know what people want.

I know I want lots of American equipment, and it seems there isn't a single storefront that has all the guns I want, especially Colt weapons, and I have a really long list of stuff I could put, but that would be boring. So I'll just put the Colt weapons I want to see.

M16A4 Assault Rifle
M4A1 Carbine
M203 Grenade Launcher
AR15A2 Government Carbine
AR15A3 Tactical Carbine
CAR-15 Assault Rifle
M4 Commando
Colt Automatic Rifle
Colt Accurized Rifle
9mm Submachine Gun (model 635, I think)
Law Enforcement Carbine

Would like to see everything from Past Tech to Future Tech and everything in between, with prices listed even if no prices can be found a guess would be welcomed.

Storefronts with Past-tech and Future-tech together are usually... Non-existant, and hard to make, probably.

My question is: Why on earth would you want a shopfront full of weapons?

Yes, YOU might like these things or they might be useful to you, but what about everyone else? World peace. Remember that: world peace and love.

So you want a storefront full of diplomats and ambassadors? :p

Well, there should be more peace time machines and equipment for sale. I eman, your army might have the best weapons in the world but it's workers don't even have the wheel!

Storefronts with Past-tech and Future-tech together are usually... Non-existant, and hard to make, probably.

Yep there Non-existant, and it would be hard to make. I could probably do one. I thought about making a storefront that carters for everyone. Your one stop shop for goodies what ever they may be. Need infantry weapons- well what type? Need Big Ass Navy? Sure what package you want? Want space ships that can't be killed by anything and are gods. Sure we got that. If we don't got it, its not our fault- you never asked for it. A person can dream.

I get what you mean. Maybe I should make a storefront which sells Hondas, BMW's, even some domestic designs. Like what Van Luxemburg (SP?) did.

Thank ya'll very kindly.

(Oh, and bump.)

Hand Grenades
UAVs and UCAVs
Light MGs
AFVs (air transportable, less than 15 tons)
Thermobaric warheads (WMD that are currently not regulated by UN CBW bans)
Chemical RCAs (tear gas)
Truth drugs (ergot, LSD, "uppers" and "downers", controled feed systems)
Factories, military bases, common weapon designs (so that you don't have to buy every bullet and grenade you use)
Repair shops
Parachutes
Mines
Rocket sceintists and base rocket designs (customize your own, within limits)
Gun modifications
Assasinations for hire
AAA
simple long range SAMs
Barrage balloons
Flyying boat (those old planes are coming back, PBY catalina would be a start)

How 'bout one that has nothin' but ammunition?

(BTW, bump)

Bump

Hey, I ought to make an ammo storefront. Ah, well.

What the-
BUMP
Oh, just another one.

Precisely what I DONT want to see, tbh, are storefronts that sell American / Russian / $reallife_nation tech. As no one on NS designed this, anyone can build it themselves. The same goes for ammo - its extremely easy to make yourself. What I want from a storefront is:

- Originality
- Detailed, realistic descriptions
- A comprehensive listing of designs (ie. I dont want a naval storefront that only sells 2 different classes)
- Some "unique selling point" that I cant get from another storefront or by making things myself.