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MUTUAL AID PACT
Fromer: The Mutual Aid Pact of less powerful Nations
MAP Forum: http://s13.invisionfree.com/Mutual_Aid_Pact/index.php?act=idx
NSwiki: http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/MAP
Secretary Office: Spooty

Pact News
You can TG information that you wish to share. If it'll be concerning our pact, I'll post it.
21.09
Leafanistan and Frozopia are at war and both are MAP members. Voting to aid one and expel will be held on MAP forum!
Poll will be closed 24th september, current year.
18.09
Doweir has fallen. This Pact will be cleaned and re-established after contacting with former members. Voting members will elect General Council.

The Agreement
Name:
1. This agreement shall be referred to as MAP.
Requirements:
2. At the time of accepting MAP, nations will have a population not greater than 1.5 billion inhabitants.
Purpose:
3. The purpose of MAP is to defend other member nations if there has been an unprovoked attack on a member.
Stipulations:
4. Members agree to establish diplomatic relations with each other.
5. Members agree to not restrict the sale of weapons between other members
6. MAP members agree not to provoke other countries to attack them with the intent of bringing in other members to assist.
7. Members will set aside an annual amount of 0.1% of GDP to help with humanitarian and military aid to nations under attack.
Aggression by members:
8. If a MAP member attacks other MAP members then the MAP alliance is obliged to defend the attacked nation(s), unless ethical or moral presidents with in your nation are threatened by your intervention. A vote whether to expel the aggressor will take place, with 50%+1 to expel required.
9. If a MAP member want to engage in offensive military action against a NON-MAP member for any reason, assistance will not be offered without at least a 65% percent approval from the MAP members.
Aggression against members:
10. If a MAP member is attacked without provocation, the MAP alliance will assist militarily and financially.
11. If a MAP member has provoked an attack by a non-member, members will not collectively assist this nation, without a vote of at least 65%. If the vote fails to pass members may offer aid if desired.
Other notes:
12. If a nation grows larger than 1.5 billion while a member, they can still remain part of MAP.
13. Nations larger than 1.5 billion wishing to assist smaller nations, may join as non-voting members.

Members
Total: 53
Voting: 46

Alidor
Arakaria
Askira
Cesania
East Lithuania
Evil Aquatic Creatures
Emporer Pudu #
Feindseligkeit
Findan
Flaming Souls
Frozopia
Gruenberg
Hamptonshire #
Jagada
Kelman
Kevistis
Korridan
Leafanistan
Lois-Must-Die
Luruar
Madnestan
Mark Tom and Travis
New South Serbia
Moorington
Mondoth #
Muesilania
Mwarto
Nissin
North Mack
Northern Nation States
Omigodtheykilledkenny
Palixia
Pavilosta
Peopleita
Pheanix
Samaran
Sharina #
Shazbotdom
Shenon
Snakastan
Sonaj
Spooty
Storan
The tokera #
Tocrowkia #
Tree Hugging Lesbians
Truitt #
UberPenguinLand
Uzakastan
Van Luxemburg
Verozan
Vietnamexico
Xtesee

# - Non-voting

(OOC: Bump, you already know that i'm confirmed)

(OOC: Bump, you already know that i'm confirmed)
No need to confirm. I've TGed all members. Few cased to exist, so I removed them from the list. If someone have anything against, he will reply.

On behalf of the People's Republic of Uzakastan, we hereby petition for membership into this pact. With acceptance into this pact, Uzakastan hereby acknowledges the requirements and conditions set fourth.

Signed,

Chief Delegate Nicolae Korsenski

Mondoth wishes to acknowledge that we continue our support and membership in this pact, but would like to state that due to our size, we are no longer a voting member.

Telegram From Spooty to the Voting and Non-Voting Nations of MAP

To celebrate the reunion of this alliance the nation of Spooty would like to hold a party in the honour of this pact, it will be held on the golden beaches of the Province, Maskerade, there will be a BBQ and a fireworks display, it is highly recomended that you bring with you a pair of swimming trunks, we look forward to all those that can make it.

Signed

Derek Archibald Spoot IIX

(OOC: i havn't exactely cleared this with Arakaria, but hey i can hold a party if i want to, you're all welcome, i'll be making the thread once we have more confirmed returning nations)

The Federation of Muesilania would like to join MAP, we agree with ALL terms and would happily sell, with a 10% discount, from the MuDeOTech World Storefront, any product.

the Tokera will be happy to join the MAP.

Mondoth wishes to acknowledge that we continue our support and membership in this pact, but would like to state that due to our size, we are no longer a voting member.
The size of any nation counts only when it joins. Afterwards you're voting member until your membership is revoked.

oh... I though once you grew passed 1.5bil you lost voting status. Oh well, I'll voluntarily give up my voting status as an example to other large MAP members

The Kingdom of vietnamexico would like to join the MAP

(OOC: yeah i think this is enough members to start a fat old party, i'll post the link soon)

(OOC: and here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=444872) it is)

I've declrared war on Automagfreek and I'm asking help from anyone who will give it.

We need a 65% approval vote to aid you.

"They want us to remind them we are in MAP? I forgot we were part of that."
Spoke King Clauro IX.
"Well if we can persuade them to join our bloody war against leafanistan and that long list of allies that seem to enjoy bombarding our people, find, otherwise I resign from the stupid alliance. Send something like that to them Master Phillip."
"Yes, your majesty."

To members of MAP
We are aware of the mutual protection pact and our willing to remain part of the agreement. However we should inform you we are currently in a bloody war with leafanistan, McKagan and several other nations. Our people die in the thousands due to intense bombardment, and we have lost both naval and air superiority over our homeland. We request that all members of MAP assist us, or we shall retire from the agreement.

Master Phillip's, head of Frozopian military forces.

OOC:
Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9667807#post9667807)

To members of MAP
We are aware of the mutual protection pact and our willing to remain part of the agreement. However we should inform you we are currently in a bloody war with leafanistan, McKagan and several other nations. Our people die in the thousands due to intense bombardment, and we have lost both naval and air superiority over our homeland. We request that all members of MAP assist us, or we shall retire from the agreement.

Master Phillip's, head of Frozopian military forces.

(OOC: so who's the agressor?)

leaf, although well u should read the connecting threads.....

The Democratic Republic of Storan has found this Pact to be possibly very helpful in our continuing growth and security. We request to join the honorable MAP organization. If accepted we gladly agree to all the terms and conditions.

Storanian Diplomatic Relations Director,
George Markson

OOC: I am not the aggressor. This all relates to a previous thread where Frozopia and its King tried to murder our multinational peace delegation discussion on a Braxian Battleship. He now blames us for it and started a war, of course under our strike first policy we engaged in naval warfare with our other injured allies and fought back.

Also, I am here and I'm updating the link to MAP in my profile.

The Empire of Snakastan would like to join MAP.


OCC: Should I telegram anybody or should I jsut post my intentions here?

The Excessively Armed Empire is fighting a multi-front war against the nations of Praetonia, Hogsweat, Dracun imperium, and Findan, all of which have unjustly declared war upon Automagfreek.

While the reasons for Findan and Dracun imperium's declarations are still surfacing, we do know that the war against Praetonia and Hogsweat was started due to a simple accidental intrusion into Hogsweat holdings. As we began withdrawing our naval assets we were fired upon, and war has since erupted.

Though Automagfreek has more than enough supplies to fight this war, we ask that for the sake of the Freek consumer that aid be brought to our nation in order to keep prices down on everyday items. Any aid would be appreciated to help us allocate more resources to defending our homeland.

http://img131.echo.cx/img131/9374/silvia1fu.jpg
Silvia Stormguard
-Princess of the Excessively Armed Empire-

wheres the link to the leaf-froz war, I believe the pact calls for the agressor in a map on map war to be ejected.

I suggest we create a council or governing body to manage the alliance, with the assembly building in one of the MAP nations, say Arakaria for example.
The leader of the council would voted on by the MAP members (voting members only) and any nation within the MAP alliance can present a candidate for the council leader or any position and indeed multiple positions.

I suggest the following positions,

President of the Alliance
Vice President
Chancellor of the Treasury
Shadow Chancellor of the Treasury
Chancellor of Security
Shadow Chancellor of Security
Chancellor of MAP policy integration
Shadow Chancellor of MAP policy integration

Wide open for suggestions, be it praise or criticism.

An example of the council’s purpose, a MAP nation finds itself at war and comes to the council to ask assistance
The council dispatches an envoy to appraise the situation (Chancellor or Shadow Chancellor of Security reads thread and relating threads); the envoy then delivers the findings of fact finding mission to council.
MAP nation make an informed judgement on whether or not they help nation at war.
Same thing for the allocation of aid money, and what not.

Edit; just read the bit about the general council in first post *hides face in shame*

For the MAP forums CLICK HERE (http://s13.invisionfree.com/Mutual_Aid_Pact/index.php?act=idx)

I'd like to confirm my willingness to join in the activities of the new MAP.

# Alidor, we prise your proposal but we are not sure what would Chancellor of MAP policy integration do.
We think that the Chancellor of MAP treasury is a good idea to build up a MAP army. This force would remain under MAP's General Council control. The only problem is to track the influence in treasury and its spendings. We could agree that instead of 0,1% of GDP send to map each nation should give up a small part of its army for MAP. When nations grow they should send more help. We could agree that if average army has ~1% of its population in service, than 0,01% of this population should be send as Allied Forces. When someone leaves our pact he should've a possibility to take his soldiers back to home. Those forces would be sent by General Council to war. It would be easier for our members to not involve in each conflict but to send a small amount of forces for G.C. disposal. It would be easy and efficient, I think.
It would be also great if you appreciate my effort put to bring this whole pact back to life with pernament veto but that's up to you ;) also, Arakaria would be happy to build the General Assembly in our beautiful capital city, Au'thyre :)

# The Pact will support its allies without any word if they are victims. If they are agressors than 65% of MAP's members must approve this military action. I say that it would be a good idea to allow each nation that asks for a military help (and is an agressor or provoker) to make a new thread with voting pool (remember to check an option to see who votes on what, we don't want non-members messing with our results). Those that ask for help should also TG all other nations and ask them for their vote (send a telegram that contains at least a link to voting thread). This thread also should be openly avaible to those with whom petitioner wage war, so they can state their arguments allowing our members to make a wise decission. If voting is possitive, an Allied Forces will be formed (each nation declaring how many soldiers they send) and should be commanded by Chancellor of MAP security in future. For now, those that receive help can appoint Allied Forces commander but they shouldn't chose anyone that is directly involved in conflict.

OOC: Currently I've hard accessibility to the Internet, so it would be great to have a Vice or Shadow or someone...

OOC: Currently I've hard accessibility to the Internet, so it would be great to have a Vice or Shadow or someone...

(OOC: oh oh, pick me)

(or me....)

***OFFICIAL PROCLIMAITON***
To: Leadership of the Mutual Aid Pact
From: Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mr. Larry Williams

The Pure Socialist Holy Empire wishes you well in your adventure of building up your organization to the levels that so many before you have reached. We hope that our Nation and your Alliance can grow to appreciate the beauty of the world we live in and defend freedom to our last dying breath. The Emperor, the Cabinet, and the Parliament agree that ties must be made between the Pure Socialist Holy Empire and the membership of the Mutual Aid Pact.

May whatever God you believe in, smile down upon your nation!

Okey, people! I open a thread where you can vote who should be expeled from MAP (otherone gets our help): Leafanistan or Frozopia. Each nation can tell their story and arguments.
The nation of Spooty, your government will be responsible for secretary. It will be a bit hard work for your administration but you can resign whenever you want. Also, this is a temporary office before elections will be held.
Send following telegram to all MAP members:
"Leafanistan and Frozopia, two MAP members are at war. According to article 8 of the Mutual Aid Pact agreement voting will be held here: http://s13.invisionfree.com/Mutual_Aid_Pact/index.php?act=idx
Polls will be closed at 24th september, current year.

ATTACHMENT: article 8
If a MAP member attacks other MAP members then the MAP alliance is obliged to defend the attacked nation/s, unless ethical or moral presidents with in your nation are threatened by your intervention. A vote whether to expel the aggressor will take place, with 50%+1 to expel required."

On the behalf of the Planar Republic of Arakaria and the Mutual Aid Pact,

(Arakaria, you could also use the MAP forums especially created for this...)

(Arakaria, you could also use the MAP forums especially created for this...)
OOC: What forums?

(OOC: these (http://s13.invisionfree.com/Mutual_Aid_Pact/index.php?act=idx)

The link in this post leads to it

"CLICK HERE" (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9671337&postcount=25)

(OOC: HEY! I was first!)

Sorry! I've changed everything. I won't be avaible for almost 2 days, so please, transfer this voting thread to the proper forum.

I made a poll already from your post above on the MAP forums.

check forum for my input

We hereby Affirm the Mutual Aid Pact as being in accordance with the wishes of the Holy Empire of Intracircumcordei. We hereby ascent to the terms and conditions of the treaty in good faith and exercise of ongoing reason and wisdom in our exercise and commital to the Mutal Aid Pact.

I hearby declare this the true voice of the almighty I, Imperial Ambassador Chao, representative for the Imperial House

OOC:
Just a note. I dropped out of MAP a while ago. You might want to take me off of the list.

OOC-May my nation join the Mutual Aid Pact? I am a new nation here and another nation told me about this pact.

Can I join this pact? Findan told me about it on my diplomacy thread.

Imo the more the merrier...

I have a situation right now with the irathrian straight I need people to help me with setting up defences.. also there may be a conventional war with ramissle I could use some help in devising a war strategy should our situation disolve....

email me if you are interested in getting invovled in these potential future wars

w_ashley@rogers.com

OOC: hehe don't ya just love the names people think up for their nations? :)

IC: Multiland would like to sign up to the Mutual Aid Pact.

Signature:
¬`¦
Sum Won, Office of International Affairs

Pythogrtia would like to join this pact, but in the pact, it says we may not restrict the sale of weapons. Does that mean that we cannot prohibit civillian possesion of heavy machine guns?

The Constitutional Monarchy of the United Ed States wishes to join the MAP.

The Constitutional Monarchy of the United Ed States wishes to join the MAP. You need territory in Arrterus to join.

The Government of United Federation of Military Command would like to join your alliance. We would be willing to help any and all nations in MAP.

You need territory in Arrterus to join.

What the hell are you talking about Kubra? I'm a member of the MAP (see Spooty) and I don't have sod-all territory in Arrterus, see this Alliance was started long ago by a nation whos name I do not remember in April 2005, then it sort of died and then it came back under this incarnation in whenever, on another note I don't think you guys should sign up dude, this alliance aint gonna do anything

What the hell are you talking about Kubra? I'm a member of the MAP (see Spooty) and I don't have sod-all territory in Arrterus, see this Alliance was started long ago by a nation whos name I do not remember in April 2005, then it sort of died and then it came back under this incarnation in whenever, on another note I don't think you guys should sign up dude, this alliance aint gonna do anything OOC: Whoops, sorry. I thought this was the Arterusian mutual aid pac

OOC: Whoops, sorry. I thought this was the Arterusian mutual aid pac
Soooo... am I in?

OOC: wow, this is still going strong I see. Well, I haven't been active with MAP, but if y'all need some muscle, feel free to TG me

Soooo... am I in? OOC: I'm not sure, I'm not part of this alliance and just confused it with a number. However, I wish you luck in getting in MAP.

Due to the fact that it has been more than 2 days and no one has even bothered to tell me if I am even in MAP or not... I have decided to reconsider my application.

The Constitutional Monarchy of the United Ed States officially now quits MAP, that is if we were ever officially accepted... of course no one bothered to tell us... so we really don't know...

Dude, this Alliance is basically dead, the guy who made it is never on (if he is then he doesn't make his presence known) most of the people who RP on it never show up (I should know being Spooty) and I already told all the new applicants a few days ago that this alliance is dead, however I can suggest that you join the GASN, it's a good alliance and as far as I know they havn't said anything against new members.

Any interest in a revival? I'm not a small nation by any means, but I can give protection.

Haha cheers for bringing this up. My old wars against Leafanistan and co. Good times.