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Propossal International 00498 "Armal Modernization"
Summed Up Version
The Jewittist Republic has long-since been ill-updated in tank, vehicle, and MRLV technologies in such decrees that if a massive ground war was to errupt, the Republican Gaurd nor Jewittist Army could protect our island homeland; dispite massive technologies in naval and aircraft pieces.

As the world changes and the Jewittist will is needed in more continent-based nations, the need for up-to-date armored units is even more in demand.

At this passing, a full 2,340,000,000,000 [oB] (?$4,000,000,000,000) lump sum will be taken out of the Republic Treasury Reserve in order to buy and construct production rights of arms which will be mentioned in needs and missions.

Half shall go towards construction and the other half torwards buying of rights. Older armored pieces shall be sold for "Dirty Cheap" price, right at manufacturing price (leaving a decrease in any possible profits that the Republic could gain).

With points in mind, vote shall take place on March 5th, 2008

[VOTING OF REPUBLICAN COUNCIL - 621 For, 19 Against]

Main Battle Tank
The main battle tank must be able to perform advanced island-based needs. Also with them, urban enviromental needs. Torque is needed far above speed due to the jungles and forestry and hillsides which plague the Emeraldian Chain which the Jewittist Republic rests.

It must have an effective cannon capable of destroying an M1A2 Abrams in a single hit; ETC is perfered but any type can be accepted.

Its armor must be state-of-the-art, strong and able to hold a round from a Leopard II's cannons and still manuver. Must also have side-panels for infantry to hide for urban operations.

Must have a grenade launcher (62mm) or a .80 caliber gun mount (alterable) as to meet with certain missions and desires.

Must have no more than a crew of four, three is most perfered.

Silent-running is needed, as the jungles can get quiet and thus you must as well be quiet than noisey when you are just a few thousand yards away. Also helpful in urban enviroments.

Can be of any powerplant except hydrogen fuel cell. A qausi-turbine is suggested due its use in an experimental HUMVEE replacement which showed very well characteristics.

Light Battle Tank
This shall need statistics to meet a Leopard II and win. Must be able to submerge into water (given snorkels and what not) and also have speed over torque.

The cannon can be of anything except ETC, as this shall be mass-producible also, and war machine-friendly.

Armor simular to the MBT's if not slightly lighter, crew of three and no more. Armor shielding for outside infantry also suggested, but not required. Qausi-turbines accepted greatly above all as with silent running.

Main mission will be inter-national conflicts.

MMLV (Mobile Missile Launching Vehicle)
Must have engine simular to tanks but with torque for massive manuverability. Have at least stores for twelve missiles size of Standerdized Strike Missiles (Standerd USA missile for their own MMLV) and launchible eight at once.

Must also be able to tow stores of additive missions with a pre-designed towable casing.

Must have a mount for a grenade launcher (62mm) or a machine gun (.80 caliber), all depending on mission.

Mostly to be used in back-lines fire in aiding frontal fighters.


Self-Propelled Artillary

Must be 120mm, higher is gladly accepted. Must have own guidance system which can also be connected with a satellite system for targetting. Must have speed over torque and go at least 30 mph, higher the better. Must have a mounted 62mm grenade launcher and a crew of three, no more, less is perfered.

To be used to aid MMLV in operations.

Coastal Defence System

Must be a railgun, coilgun, or gauss gun which is capable of letting go 21in rounds (no higher) for extremely long distances. Must also have two surface-to-air missile systems (SAMs), a DREAD-like system, and a ground-defence ability of .80 caliber machine guns.

Also must include flares and chaff countermeasures, just in case.

To act like a miniture base, must have no more than 100 operaters; also must be able to connect to a mobile base, or to a nearby base.

Anti-Tank Rocket Launchers - Guidable
This launchers must be guidible or not, able to firring dumb and guided missiles (both to come with designs). Unguible missile to be against infantry, a frag-like warhead. Guidible to be used against buildings, tanks, and vehicles, a penitration warhead.

Must be mass producible, light as possible (without all-plastics), and the missiles must have a range equal or greater to that of a "Light Fifty" Sniper Rifle.

Armored Transport
Must be able to withstand gun fire and a possible RPG attack (armor withstanding). Must have an equalization of torque and speed as this will be used universally.

Must be mass producible and hold at least 12 men. Must also have a grenade launcher (62mm) or a machine gun (.80 caliber), depending on mission, on a front-mount. Must also be able to submerge (through snorkels or what not).


Rights of Potential Sellers of Designs
1. The Jewittist Republic and nations within it have the right to produce, modify, and rename any arms which are bought; however credit will always go where it is due.
2. The Jewittist Republic may be selling the LBT, MMLV, transport, and self-propelled artillary in their Exports Department. Rights will never be given, and numbers of signifigance will never be permitted.
3. In event of conflict between a person who wishes to import a modified version of your item between yourself, the nation will not be permitted to do so without your consent. Massive numbers (beyond 500) will be asked for by the original designer unless agreed otherwise.
4. Payments will be made upfront, in full, directly to national accounts in form of gold. Because of possibility of exporting, extra sums may be added to allow for un-requestible mass exporting.
5. At selling rights, you agree to these terms and any of those which may be added as the Republican Council sees fit.

Please link to item, do not post here as to prevent crowding.

For further information, because the federal government cannot partake directly in these affairs, Grunder Industries will be the title of the purchaser of the tanks and MMLV.

The rest will be bought by Stevenson Company (Off-Branch of Jewwerks Productions).

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9004334&postcount=1

You can buy domestic production rights for this, however the following of your terms I will not agree to (and are effectively deal breakers):

2. The Jewittist Republic may be selling the LBT, MMLV, transport, and self-propelled artillary in their Exports Department. Rights will never be given, and numbers of signifigance will never be permitted.

- This isnt acceptable. It isnt in my interests to allow you to sell things that I designed. If you want an export vehicle, then you should really design one yourself, because I doubt anyone who allow you to do this.

3. In event of conflict between a person who wishes to import a modified version of your item between yourself, the nation will not be permitted to do so without your consent. Massive numbers (beyond 500) will be asked for by the original designer unless agreed otherwise.

- I dont so much disagree with this, but it is irrelevent as I will not agree to sell rights if you reserve the right to sell vehicles on.

5. At selling rights, you agree to these terms and any of those which may be added as the Republican Council sees fit.

- I dont understand what this means. If it means that you reserve to tack on additional terms at will and I have to automatically agree to them then I wont agree to it. It would probably be best just to remove this, as it doesnt seem necessary.

I threw this all together at school so I am surprised to find so many spelling errors (go figure, it wasn't english class).

Now, the point of this is to gain our own arms. If you do not wish to have your items sold (which fall under those stated classes) than don't post.

The fifth portion is to say that some things may change, but for the "good" (as in a classification of #2 is taken away, or possibley the entire rule itself).

And the point of this is that I know nothing about these things (why else would I only be asking for a certain type of arms, and why else would I make it hard for such arms to be used in my nation?) and thus I cannot make them myself without ripping them off of other great nations; which I will not sink so low to do.

[OOC: I'll build your tanks, per our agreement over AIM.]

[OOC2: If y'all havent noticed, I'm like his opposite. All I know is ground warfare and can't fight a naval battle to save a billion lives.]

The tank (MBT and LBT) options shall be fullfileld to our exact desires, ut the rest is still open.

Truitt, Check out my storefront, its in my sig. As you already have a MBT and LBT (shame I have a nice new one), check out the other ground vehicles.

Will do P.

I am not sure on the LBT from LB though, I may reopen that since I am not fully sure what I really want in it.

Sure.

Check your TGs P.

Though it doesn't meet your requirements, we present the Admiral A-1 super-heavy assault tank (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427507) for your perusal.

If you decide to buy it, you may modify the design as you wish for your own use, but no resale will be allowed.

I've replied Truitt.

OOC: And I to you P.

IC:

Although it is a nice piece of work, I am sorry to decline your offer, Axis Nova.

I have a strict budget and requirements.

-Douvier Daniel Tanner

We currnetly sell:
for the Anti Armor Missile:
The Merlin Integrated Infantry System
Weight; 27 kg
Length; 1.3 m
Range; 2,600 m
Price; $2,600
Features; Detachable command/targeting mount, full LEGION integration capability, Intuitive interface, all weather capability, can be vehicle loaded as a vehicle mounted ATGM.
The Merlin integrated missile system is one of the foremost infantry missile systems available, it is capable of firing anti armor, anti artillery and anti air missiles under all weather and field conditions.
The Merlin anti armor missile is a fire and forget missile with pre launch lock on capability and a millimetric wave radar/dual laser targeting package that can identify targets in all weather conditions, even ignoring battle field distractions such as smoke, chaff and dust. The missile advances towards the target at low altitude and jumps to medium altitude in order to take advantage of the typically weaker upper armor on most armored vehicles; the missile uses a double warhead scheme to defeat all known armor types including Explosive Reactive armor. The Missile can also be ‘programmed’ easily in the field for straight flight for use against bunkers and fortified positions.
The Merlin anti air missile uses infrared to track aircraft; it uses an explosive/shrapnelating warhead to damage engines and control surfaces.
The Merlin Integrated Missile System is primarily a ‘soft’ launched infantry missile launcher that can be fired from the shoulder or from the prone position but it can be attached to a mount and used as a vehicle weapon. The Merlin’s command/targeting mount can be detached from the tube launcher and used for infantry surveillance missions, it incorporates imaging infrared, 8x magnification light intensification scope and laser range finding as well as an 8x magnification natural light scope. The system is fully integrateble with the LEGION infantry suite but can also be used stand alone without the LEGION system. The tube launcher is disposable and al available missiles utilize a ‘pre boost ejection’ using low heat thrusters to eject from the tube prior to ignition of the primary booster for minimum recoil and ‘back flash’

for the MMLV:
MAAS (Bee Hive)
Height; 3.0 meters
Length; 6.5 meters
Width; 2.4 meters
Armament; 1x Variable Munitions artillery unit, 4x smoke deployers, OCSW mountable
Speed; 68 mph (road)
6 knots (swim)
Price; 1,900,000
Deployment: The MAAS is a medium armored artillery system
Notes: The MARAS or ‘Medium Armored Artillery System’ is a state of the art artillery unit designed to excel in today’s battlefields. The Heart of the MAAS is the ‘Variable Munitions Unit’ or VMU pneumatically positioned ‘box’ capable of accepting a variety of ordnance pods including the MLRP (Multiple Rocket Launch Pod) loaded with 14x 230mm artillery rockets and similar pods for almost any missile type and size. A 160mm metal storm type artillery pod is being developed but do not expect to see it soon

And for the combined role of light tanks and combat transport:
AIFV (Gorilla)
Height; 3.2 meters
Length; 7.5 meters
Width; 3.5 meters
Armament; (Infantry Vehicle) 1x turret mounted 30mm chain cannon, 1x turret mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 2x turret mounted ATGM
Armament; (Tank) 1x turret mounted 120mm low recoil (can be changed for your preferences), 1x coaxial mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 2x 50mm mortars, 1x ATGM
Armament; (anti air) 1x turret mounted 20mm Gattling Cannon, 1x turret mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 2x SAMs, radar targeting/acquisition systems
Armament; (Recon) 10m radio mast, 1x turret mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 3 m recon mast with radar, thermal imaging, up to 8x magnification, laser range finding, can be used to target artillery and air strikes.
Armament; (Mortar) 2x turret mounted 120mm Mortars 1x coaxial mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 1x ATGM
Armament; (common) 4x smoke deployers, OCSW mountable
Engine: Diesel Electric Hybrid for increased combat endurance and maneuverability
Speed; 54 mph (road)
5.6 knots (swim)
Price; 1,600,000,000
Troop capacity; 8 (12 in infantry vehicle configuration)
Deployment; The gorilla is designed for all terrain combat and is capable in all battle conditions
The Gorilla is a modern fighting vehicle meant to take the war to the enemy in any circumstances, equipped with a modular turret that allows a relatively easy alteration of roles, the Gorilla can operate under the most adverse of circumstances. The Gorilla is armored with a foundation layer of RHA that is covered by a layer of ceramics composites for better survivability against anti armor weapons, also includes the ability to be fitted with explosive Reactive armor to enhance survivability against armor piercing munitions.


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=385183&page=1&pp=15

(MBT and SPA designs are currently being evaluated for production)

Your submissions are being looked over now, however we will wish to continue and look at other designs before a contract is finalized.

-Douvier Daniel Tanner