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The Sharina Technocracy is currently seeking contracts to design, develop, and manufacture a main battle tank that will be able to stand toe-to-toe with most main battle tanks of various nations. Sharina is prepared to offer a $5 trillion contract for this project, as we are in need of a top quality main battle tank that can effectively defend Sharina aganist any foreign invasion, within at least a 50 / 50 odds of survival aganist enemy armored vehicles.

Several possibilities that the Sharinan scientists have looked at include:

1, The ability to survive at minimum one shot from a 120mm main cannon. This is to allow this new tank to return fire should it be caught off guard.

2. An cannon capable of penetrating 4,000mm RHA armor (more if possible)

3. The possibility (not necessary) of either a Gauss Cannon or a DREAD gun to accomplish 4,000+ mm RHA armor penetration.

4. Weight around 100 tons, lower weight if possible.

5. Top speed of 20 - 40 MPH, can be flexible.



This new tank is desired by Sharina so that it may combat several varieties of tanks such as follows...



Designation T-98W MBT

Unit cost: $30,000,000

Length: 54.8 feet
Width: 18.2 feet.
Height: 8.42 feet

Weight: 120 tons.

Ground clearance: 32 inches.

Ground pressure: 28.21 PSI

Obstacle Crossing: 54 inches.

Crew: 4 (Driver, Commander, Gunner, Loader)

Engine:
TA-03 diesel super charged turbine engine. 4,000 Hp at 40,000 Rpm.
2 kW AB-1-P28 auxiliary power units (Same as in T-90 and T-98)

Speed: Road: 24 mph. Cross-country: 16 mph.

Maximum range: 300 miles with main reservoir. Extended by reserve drums to approximately 380 miles.

Fuel load: 1,500 gallons in main reservoir. 2: 200-gallon reserve drums in rear of tank.

Armament:
Main Gun: 140mm STGS-98W (Super Tank Gun Salazar) smoothbore main gun. The gun operates on a retraction system and the frame of the tank has been hardened to deal with the massive recoil. Prototype testing has shown this to be an effective system. 40 APFSDS, 20 HE rounds, 20 Heat rounds. Some tanks also carry up to 10 ATGMs, but that is dependent on the mission objectives and the anticipated enemy resistance.

Commander’s weapon: 7.62mm pintle-mounted six barrel F-12-LW Minigun (Very similar to the 20mm A-12-LW (Light Weight) cannon) except this is a 7.62mm model and weighs a great deal less. 12,000 round of ammunition.

Mounted remotely activated TOW Launcher on the side of the turret, protected by 200mm of armor. Can be reloaded by the Loader, but has 2 rockets ready and loaded in it.

Coaxial Weapon: 7.62 M240 Machinegun with 8,000 rounds of ammunition.

Loaders Weapon: Browning M-2 50 caliber machine gun, with 4,000 round of ammunition.

NBC System: Heavily upgraded version of the Abrams 200 SCFM - CleanCooled Air, designated the 98NBCPS (1998 NuclearBiologicalChemical Protection System)

Night Vision: Heavily upgraded version of the T-90 TO1-PO2T Agava-2 TI (target id range 2.5 km) and TPN-4-49-23 Buran-PA (target id range 1.2/1.5 km) The upgraded version of the former was designated (nicknamed) the “Advanced Night Hunting System”. The latter was designated (nicknamed) the “Night Hawk System”.

Radio: R-163-50U + R-163-50K (T-90K)

Smoke screen: 12: 81mm mortars with CM-VS smoke grenades
smoke discharger.


Armor:

Front: Vs APFSDS: 2,500 mm + 500 mm with Kontakt-5 = 3,000
Vs HEAT: 3,000 mm + 800 mm with Kontakt-5 = 3,800mm

Side: Vs APFSDS: 2,200 mm + 400 mm with Kontakt-5 = 2,600
Vs HEAT: 2,500 mm + 600 mm with Kontak-5= 3,100

Rear: Vs APFSDS: 1,500 mm + 300 mm with Kontakt-5 = 1,800
Vs HEAT: 1,800 mm + 400 mm with Kotakt-5 = 2,200



http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=8371243&postcount=20



http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9325243&postcount=1

Sharina's top-of-the-line Main Battle Tank is the Paragon, created approximately two decades ago. However, Sharina is growing quite concerned that its Paragon tank will be unable to engage the tanks being employed by most modern nations. Sharina believes that the Paragon will be unable to penetrate the armor of any of the modern tanks, especially the three examples cited above. The Paragon is woefully underprotected, as it is believed that it will not be able to sustain even a 110mm smoothbore or ETC round.

Information on the Paragon can be found here...

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7987783&postcount=1

As it stands now, Sharina would be unable to mount any type of defense aganist those types of tanks listed above, or tanks similiar in size, technology, and design as these examples. Any assistance shall be greatly appreciated by Sharina, along with an hefty $5 trillion grant. Thank you and we hope to hear from interested parties sometime shortly.

Live well and prosper.
~Grand Technocrat Rand Veristek

We at MierTech may have what your looking for. It is a design that has served us well for the past couple of years:

MTV-Tenoth III Medium Battle Tank
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/chal2-7.jpg
As its first generation tank grew old, newer tanks were needed, and so a competition was made for independant companies to submit ideas for modifications to the Mk I. A small company won the competition, and this is their design, modified to include MierTech technology.

Designed by: Phoenixius
Crew: 4
Length: 33 ft
Height: 7.90 ft
Width: 13 ft
Weight: 70 tons
Max Speed: 47 mph governed
Range: 350 miles
Armament:
1x 120mm Smooth-bore gun
2x MTG-01 G
Combat Systems:
NBC Protection
PHBVS G-III
CACS G-IV
PDCS G-II
Deity
Archangel G-IV
Wraith G-II
EMPPS

Price: $4mil

Bump!

The hefty $5 trillion contract is still open! Sharina needs more entries, before a decision is reached.

OK Sharina, the Tenoth was a bit old, so here is a new tank for you to peruse:

MTV-Templar I MBT
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/k1/images/k1_3.jpg
With the Tenoth being an old design, a modern tank was required. Though the Tenoth had had many refits, it was still an old tank. Taking note of other nations tanks, and implementing their own technology, MierTech created the Templar. The ETC 140mm main gun is a powerful addition, giving the Templar much more killing power over the old Tenoth. A co-axial ETC 80mm gun allows the use of smaller munitions for lighter work. Some MTG-04 centrifuge guns, in smaller turrets, allow for anti-infantry work, spitting out death many times a second.

Should the tanks crew be incapacitated in any way, the APS system can keep the vehicle fighting, though not as well as with human pilots. The PDCS keeps the tank safe from various missiles, dispersing various countermeasures to ensure the missile is confused as to its real target. With the PHBVS, the crew have unmatched visual capabilities, easily viewing the entire battlefield, enabling them to target the best enemy.

Designed by: Phoenixius
Crew: 3
Length: 15m
Height: 2.5m
Width: 4.8m
Weight: 76 tons
Max Speed: 65km/h governed
Range: 800km
Armament:
1x ETC 140mm gun
1x co-axial ETC 80mm gun
2x MTG-04
Combat Systems:
NBC Protection
PHBVS G-III
APS
PDCS G-II
Archangel G-IV
EMPPS
Triad armour (300mm)

Price: $15mil

I do suppose that given a 5 trillion contract (Sufficient to buy about a million MT-level tanks), and the mentioning of EM-acceleration projectile weapons (The gauss guns), the excessive RHA values etc., that your intention is something decidedly post-modern, which allows for various bits of techwankery within the realm of established physics & prototype-level stuff, yes? Good.

The engineers at Military Phalli, Inc. (A just recently created enterprise gunning for low-cost/ high profit production of now-outdated technologies. So far, low-cost had been achived with casual ease. Profits on the other hand... well... They'd probably come, one day) looked through various bits of relevant news and stuffs when they weren't either drinking themselves silly or browsing http://www.shavenneko.tmgh 's galleries, eventually stumbing over Sharina's contract offer.

"Ha-Hum. Should we?"

"Lemme see... Err... Oh, you mean business."

"What els-" Richard linked in to what his colleague was presently looking at, sighing. "Oh, that. Pervert. Anyway... Yes, business."

"Hum. Should be manageable. Lemme see..." Databases were accessed, bits of equipment thrown together and details experimented with.

The first few models either broke down within minutes or detonated due to poorly-designed reactor/ gun interfaces and cheap capacitor banks, another few had their reactors shielded so badly that a human crew would be incapable of surviving for longer than about an hour.

"Not bad..."

"They require crews, remember?"

"Oh, right. They're not fully automated..."

Back to the drawing board.

Another few dozen models later, the 200+ ton option had been brought down to no more than 111 tons, switched from a fusion- to a fission reactor (Less energy output, but also drastically cutting costs), featured a really neat (If outdated by DA standards) railgun with a v0 of 9 km/s and had some other shinyness attached.

Granted, a good deal of it was more-or-less pointless shinyness, but what do you expect from a hyperurbanised nation? Sense in tank construction?

Nonetheless, going by sheer numbers, the 'thing' looked vaguely good, and the potential maintenance issues wouldn't really show up until a prototype was built.

All that remained was advertising the (So far exclusively virtual) 'construction' at the relevant authorities... Oh, and putting the fusion reactor back in. The vehicle could hardly suck its energy requirements out of nowhere.

From: Military Phalli, Inc.
To: Whom it may concern, Sharina
Subject: Tanks with guns attached

Having taken notice of your interest, we'd like to offer you our proposal, provisionally termed the Phallus Mk I (You'll surely excuse us if we spare our- and yourselves wordy and self-praising paragraphs of slightly surreal descriptions of perfection, and go with mere statistics, yes?):

Phallus Mk I:

Weapons: 1 x 13.6557cm railgun, v0 9km/s (L 90), possible projectiles being 90kg (9g/ cm^3) Kinetic Kill projectiles (E0 = 3.645 gigajoules) *, chemical explosives of various kinds, gas and nuclear (Including neutron) rounds, rocket-propelled projectiles (Forced arcs)
1 x 6.33841cm railgun, v0 9km/s (L 90), possible projectiles being 9kg (9g/cm^3) Kinetic Kill projectiles (E0 = 364.5 megajoules), chemical explosives of various kinds, rocket-propelled projectiles (Forced arcs)
1 x 13.6557mm railgun, v0 6km/s, (L 60), projectiles being 90g Kinetic Kill projectiles
1 x 6.33841mm railgun, v0 6km/s (L 60), projectiles being 9g Kinetic Kill projectiles
1 x 9cm^2 Point-Defence laser (9 megajoules)

Different versions (Anti- Air versions, Mortar versions, ECM versions, the likes) are of course possible.

Armour: [ooc: I know fuckall about armour. Lets go with 'Substantial, but sub-par when compared to top-of-the-line armour of a similar techlevel']

Power: Two micronised fission/ fusion reactors, max energy output ~ 6.3 gigawatt (Sustainable for 11.5 days before refuel)

Active scan: Various kinds of equipment allowing for scans from the one meter (radiowaves) to the ten nanometer (Ultraviolet) band.

Passive scan: See above, add a few wavelengths in both directions.

Communications: Loads, including interlinked interfaces between tanks, basic encryption profiles, the likes.

Max Speed: 60km/h (43.5 mph)

Crew: Two, gunner, driver. It's possible to include neural interfaces for the crew, if you wish for us to do so (We suggest doing it, so the gunner can actually do its job).

Weight: 111 tons (Assumed, might change with the prototype)

NBC protection is naturally included.

It should be noted that the Phallus Mk I is impervious to water, for no other reason than the risk of it killing bridges. Instead, it is suggested that it just drives through a river, should such a thing happen to be in the way.

Price: [ooc: Such things are always arguable. Mind going with 'loads, vastly more than a MT MBT would ever cost'? My personal assumption would be ~ 50 mio Euro. Minimum 20, but such things are always arguable.]

Sincerely,

~ Richard Lynx, Military Phalli, Inc.

PS: We would of course be quite willing to add changes you may be interested in. The customer is king.

If Sharina did its job and checked for available data on standard DA tanks, it would quickly find out what it had to expect: A vehicle of ludicrous firepower, excessive range, somewhat weak armour and loads upon loads of maintenance issues, which did historically result in considerable amounts of DA tanks supposed to fight not being able to do so, courtesy of necessary repairs.

Still, the ones that did fight did so fairly well, if generally outnumbered.

Back in DA, the engineers went on, surfing through .tmgh porn and occasionally thinking about finally building a Ground Battleship.

Pointless, sure, but cute. In a sense.

oocness: * For comparison, a Leopard II manages something around 10- 12 megajoules [/fap]

OOC: Feh, 100 ton limit. =p

If not for that the export edition of my Admiral A-1s more than fulfills your requirements >_>

[OOC: Not to nitpick, but the capability to sustain multiple 140mm ETC rounds, even 120mm ETC rounds, is largely impossible. Well, the former is impossible because it's hard to find a tank with that big of a gun, since most tanks under 100 tons would flip over. Regardless, a depleted uranium sabot type round would most likely be able to penetrate that armor. Furthermore, any tank with over 2,500mm RHA armor is almost completely godmod anyways. Just my two cents.]

[OOC: Not to nitpick, but the capability to sustain multiple 140mm ETC rounds, even 120mm ETC rounds, is largely impossible. Well, the former is impossible because it's hard to find a tank with that big of a gun, since most tanks under 100 tons would flip over. Regardless, a depleted uranium sabot type round would most likely be able to penetrate that armor. Furthermore, any tank with over 2,500mm RHA armor is almost completely godmod anyways. Just my two cents.]

OOC: Unless the tank in question weighs something like 384 tons and thus does actually carry that much armor.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=439817

The T-140.
Everything else is pathetic in comparison.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=439817

The T-140.
Everything else is pathetic in comparison.

False advertising at best.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9004334&postcount=1

I hope you'll find it fairly free of adver-babble.

We are interested in this contract of yours, and we have a well battle-tested tank that you may be interested in.

The TX-44 Destructor is considered by us a heavy tank, but in general, it performs just as well as a main battle tank. Responding to a request by the MES high command, two designs were created to replace the aging TX-12 Kinley, the TX-13 Armageddon, and the TX-44 Destructor. Since the Armageddon was so huge, it was ordered for a completely different reason. However, the Destructor, was ordered as its purpose, a heavy tank.

Equipped with dual 120mm self-loading high-velocity cannons, firing all current forms of ammunition, it has the firepower to contend with enemy tanks with ease. As well, it comes with an automated co-axal machine gun (which can be hand-used if needed) for close in skirmishes. And to top off the firepower suite, it can carry eight anti-air missiles inside external pods. These launchers can only be loaded externally, so reloading with these missiles is impossible.

The tank's performance includes a Hydrogen-fed V12 Farcry engine, which powers four large electric motors to reduce mechanical wear. This gives the tank sufficient horsepower to push it to a road speed of 50 kilometers per hour. The drive system includes four independant tread sets, to enable the tank to maneuver if a set of tracks derails or becomes disabled. As well, they have a limited ability to twist up or down while traveling over rough terrain. As well, due to the wideness of the tracks, the tank has a very low ground pressure.

Armour on this tank is very well sloped, making the roughly 90mm of armour all around the tank very effective in stopping or deflecting most enemy rounds. Although some Destructors have been lost in combat, the record of tank kills vs losses has been very impressive.

The tank comes with a gyro-stabilization system for the barrel, guaranteeing the accuracy of the barrel. The tank also comes with a tactical computer to aide target aquisition and a friendly/hostile system which is installed on all tanks and equipment, to prevent friendly-fire. As well, it carries smoke countermeasures (not shown in example) to reduce enemy accuracy.

Crew consists of only a driver/commander, and a gunner. Both sit inside the hull of the tank, whereas the turret is a complete unit, with the room fully filled with ammunition, the firing mechanism, and the mechanics of the turret.
Gunnery is achieved by a targeting system and remote control.

Price per unit runs around $21.2 million dollars, and the only other possible drawback is the use of Hydrogen as an engine fuel. However, because of the usage of hydrogen, the tank cannot catch fire, it does not pollute like internal combustion engines, and the engine gets superb performance from this type of fuel. Using special mining and processing efforts, we have reduced the cost of hydrogen to the similar costs of oil, which is important due to the price of oil in this day and age.

http://edf.tauniverse.com/Destructor2smHP.jpg
http://edf.tauniverse.com/DestructorHP.jpg
http://edf.tauniverse.com/DestructorHP2.jpg

I am looking forward to a response.

OVERALL STATS:

Designation TX-44 HT

Unit cost: $21,200,000

Length: 50 feet
Width: 40 feet.
Height: 8.42 feet

Weight: 130 tons.

Ground clearance: 38 inches.

Ground pressure: 18.62 PSI

Crew: 2 (Driver/Commander, Gunner)

Engine:
EFC Hydrogen V12 Farcry engine. 7,000 HP at 40,000 RPM.
4 EEF Electric Factory 4,000 HP electic engines.

Power: Liberty Generation power generator.

Speed: Road: 31 MPH. Cross-country: 26MPH.

Maximum range: 800 Miles. Can be refueled by exchanging the hydrogen reserves in under two minutes.

Fuel load: 2 compressed Hydrogen tanks in rear.

Armament:
Main Gun: 2X 120mm SAPW (Super Armour Penetration Weapon) cannons, capable of using all current forms of ammunition of 120mm size. Storage consists of 50 rounds per gun.

Secondary Weapon: 2x turret mounted Starshell AA missile system with 4 missiles each.

Commander’s weapon & Coaxial Weapon: 7.62mm pintle-mounted heavy machine gun with 2,000 round ammunition each.

NBC System: Standard UN system.

Targeting and Night Vision Equipment: Integrated IR/NV targeting viewer and computer. Can highlight enemy and friendly tanks and units.

Radio: Standard UN radio.

Smoke screen: Four turret mounted smoke grenade launchers, two beside the barrels facing forward left and right, and two facing the left and right rear.

Armor: OOC: I don't know how to calculate this.

Front: 100mm.

Side: 90mm.

Rear: 90mm.

Purchasing Information:

To order, send the request to the MES military manufacturing headquarters, and give an order.

Limits to order: None - We currently have a large production line all set for production.

Sales: We can cut $1 million off each tank's pricetag if you order more than 100 tanks. This doubles to $2 million for 200 tanks, and up to $3 million for 300 or more.

Fuel: We can sell you hydrogen fuel for the same cost as our army. Please enquire for more information. Alternatively, we can install an oil-based turbine with the same horsepower for $500,000 more.

Ammunition: We can modify the barrels to fit any ammunition type of the 120mm range you use, so inquire for this free modification.

Build-At-Home Kits: We can sell you the manufacturing rights for $2 trillion, with free tech support, and an ability to modify the tank to your likings.

The Z-33 Jaguar (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9148871&postcount=122) main battle tank...

Though we tend to use it in concert with Praetonia's Phalanx MBT, ours fills a slightly different role.

OOC:

Thanks for all your offers and feedback. Please keep them coming! :)

The reason why I'm asking for a reasonable tank is so that I can actually put up a reasonable defense aganist some of these tanks- the three examples I cited above- the T-98W, Doomingsland's ST-29 tank, and Soviet Bloc's ST-37K1 tank.

Aganist those things, I might as well just lie down and let these tanks conquer my entire nation. This is because the best tanks I have is either M1A1 Abrams, or my Paragon tank (2010-2020 era). Nothing I have can really counter these kinds of NS tanks, while these NS tanks are pretty much invincible aganist the tanks I do have. I'm not looking to have "OMG! Invincible!" tanks. I'm seeking tanks that will have at least a 50 / 50 chance aganist these NS tanks.

That way, I won't have to roll over in defeat before the war even begins due to my equipment not being able to do anything to or aganist the enemy's equipment. This is one of these times that I truly wish NS didn't have uber stuff, because it'd be much easier to develop real MT era stuff.

I apologize for my rant, but please do continue to post offers and feedback for possible tank designs and such that can go toe to toe with Doomingsland's ST-29, Soviet Bloc's ST-37K1, and the T-98W tanks. :)

Check out the Behemoth II (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9572471&postcount=274) and the Tiger MBT (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9591658&postcount=397)

I don't think they are quite what you are looking for as they are designed for different purposes, but they could be useful.

ooc: Sharina, concerning the T-140, did you read it at all? (I know it's long)

ooc: Sharina, concerning the T-140, did you read it at all? (I know it's long)

OOC:

I'm in the process of doing so. :)

OOC:

I modified my criteria a bit. I reduced the speed requirements from 40 MPH to a range of 20 - 40 MPH. I also made it more clear that DREAD guns are not a necessity, and that the "Survive Sustained fire" is reduced to "Survive at least one hit".

Hope these modifications made my criteria more realistic and not god-moddish. :)

[OOC: I'm in need of a redesign for my old but good Type-03 MBT design, and I'd love to do a joint project with you. If you're interested, TG me.]

[OOC: Though not my design, I'd suggest you check out Lame Bums' Ostkampfwagen VIII "Ferne" MBT (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9465891&postcount=47). It serves as my own frontline armor unit, as we're phasing out our older MassPwnage designs (sorry, MP!).]

not to be rude or anything. but as a cat. money leaves me cold. our country has very unique concerns.

i have already talked about a flea market that we will have next week. when we gather up the fleas we will offer them to dogs.

i had not talked about payment plans. any dogs getting this message: you are not allowed off the pier. and you must be prepared to pay. you will have to bargain. things we are interested in for payment:

cat condos, friskies dry food, actually all dry and wet cat food welcome.

no cat litter please. it is not needed here.

we will accept soft couches, beds, blankets--no more slaves. we have enough for now.

flea powder is welcome and if you enter our pier you must wear a flea collar.

this is an announcement from the secretary of the great queen cher.

thank you and have a good day. please remember money isn't everything. and cats rule.

not to be rude or anything. but as a cat. money leaves me cold. our country has very unique concerns.

i have already talked about a flea market that we will have next week. when we gather up the fleas we will offer them to dogs.

i had not talked about payment plans. any dogs getting this message: you are not allowed off the pier. and you must be prepared to pay. you will have to bargain. things we are interested in for payment:

cat condos, friskies dry food, actually all dry and wet cat food welcome.

no cat litter please. it is not needed here.

we will accept soft couches, beds, blankets--no more slaves. we have enough for now.

flea powder is welcome and if you enter our pier you must wear a flea collar.

this is an announcement from the secretary of the great queen cher.

thank you and have a good day. please remember money isn't everything. and cats rule.

Hmm. Could that be... Spam?

Bump!

Animarnia would like to put its AN-01 "Patriot" Main Battle Tank (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9504429&postcount=1) into the ring to compete with this contract, allthough The Animarnia State Department is also currently considering buying some of MassPwnages T-140's to compliment our land foces so we can phase out our older T-90's and Abrams units currently still in active service

Please keep the Destructor in mind, but we also have just heard back from the military manufacturing sector that they also have room for production of the Shatterer MBT.

The Shatterer MBT was designed as a versatile weapons platform. Although the tank has a single barrel, and no anti-air missiles, the tank compensates for a higher speed and less sophistication.

OOC: More information will be posted later.

Since we have shown you the two tanks we can offer, we should also describe the aforementioned TX-13 Armageddon.

The Armageddon is what our army calls a "Battle Tank", but due to its size, this behemoth is better named a 'mobile artillery platform'. Some of our soldiers have even called it a land-based battleship, due to the massive cannons mounted.

The Armageddon comes with dual 15' cannons, the equivelent size of some battleship cannons in World War II. The front and rear of the chassis has remote control turret machine guns with 10,000 rounds per gun, and the turret has two large missile launchers which fire small tactical nukes, although these are generally loaded with non-nuclear weapons due to the implications involved. The roof is mounted with a 20mm gattling cannon to shoot down any aircraft within its range of fire, completely guided by the targetting computer. The Armageddon MKII version also has sponson mounted miniguns to ensure survivability from flank attacks!

This behemoth is powered by a nuclear reactor (In future RP's it's actually a fusion reactor), powering nine massive electic engines, four per set of treads (and one for the turret), to push it to a speed of only 10MPH, but this is reasonable due to the thickness of the armor; very comparable to a WWII battleship.

To top things off, the tank's cannons has a range of 20 miles. As said before, this tank is technically 'mobile artillery', so the tank would not be advised to engage in close quarters, as the guns cannot aim low enough, and the distance between the guns too far apart, to be effective in an actual tank role. However, with its massive infantry weapons, and the fact that it tends to draw fire like a person in a beehive, the tank may be effective just as both a show of force, and a magnet to keep enemy fire from your more effective, numerous MBT's.

The weak points include the lack of effective anti-tank weapons for close-in skirmishes. Secondly, the sheer weight of the monstrocity makes it completely impossible to drive it over a bridge-IF it could fit, which brings it to the third point, size. The tank is so wide, it can straddle a four lane highway! The fourth point of course is the problems with mobility, and bringing it to a warzone. However, we use a special heavy-lift transport that we can also sell you to help with this problem.

All in all, even with the problems listed, if you need serious firepower in a warzone, and you need some sort of deterrant, the TX-13 Armageddon is your man.

Price: $5 Billion.

http://edf.tauniverse.com/Armageddon.jpg