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Ok this isn't a US/Soviet Cold War it will be between me and Romandeos. It was planned long ago but forgotten about when Dracun left NS so I'm back so we are going to try again. There will be a total of six sign ups [Me and Romandeos don't count] three for each nation so it will be fair. There won't be a war in the beginning [explained later] but there may very well be one at the end of it.

Plot
A Dracun submarine on patrol will enter Romandeos waters due to a navigational error and end up under attack by Romandeosian Naval Force. The crew will be captured and brought to Romandeos which will lead to high tensions from both nations, allies will be called in and the stage will be set for a colossal war that can be averted or fought brutally.
[If you have a better idea by all means suggest it]

The point of this thread is simple, to serve as a discussion and planning thread and later the OOC Thread. So if you are interested post here saying you'd be interested.

Dracian Allies & Description
-Dracun is a nation ruled by Ansem, a leader whose brutality will know no bounds. He is however loyal to allies but to his nation first most even though he will be abusing it soon enough. He has no tolerance for any offense to the Imperium and will strike at a moment's notice. He is helped by the group known as the Order.
1.Nations of Fortune
2.Osoantipatico
3.Otagia


Romandeosian Allies
-Romandeos is a constitutional monarchy, in which a generally kind Royal Family rules a largely honest and hard-working population. The government is currently held by King Christian Woodburne I and Prime Minister Taunja Lockeheart. They are very loyal to all its allies and has no tolerance for Folks killing Romandeosian citizens, or citizens of countries allied to Romandeos, informally or formally.
1. Jenrak
2.Mauiwowee
3.Halberdgardia

I'd be intereted in joining, on either side. Is the Sub carrying WMDs or not?

This could be interesting. Count me in.

PS. I've gotten from the Godmoder in Certe's Island Expansion. :rolleyes:

Both Accepted just chose a side or would you rather me pick for you.

Jenrak have no fear I don't ignore anymore unless it is outrageous we have both matured since then ;)

I'll take whichever side Jenerak does not.
By the way, is the sub carring WMDs?

Can I join if I am a noob to RolePlaying on NationStates?

OOC: I am interested in roleplaying but I am more of a major player in the international scene, nor do I believe that my country would be at all affiliated with either party.

Dracun, Otagia wishes to ally with you in this plot.

My loyalties lay with cash, so if either side is willing to hire mercenaries. Although it sounds as if Dracun imperium is more likely to hire mercenaries.

EDIT: if anyone would like to join, but slots are filled, consider me expendable

My loyalties lay with cash, so if either side is willing to hire mercenaries. Although it sounds as if Dracun imperium is more likely to hire mercenaries.

EDIT: if anyone would like to join, but slots are filled, consider me expendable

Romandeos won't trust somebody who will stab her in the back for gold and jewels. (I'm just expressing the IC views of the country.)

I'd be interested in joining on the side of Romandeosian - Their nation sounds very much like my own (see my NSWiki page linked in my sig.) We'd probably get along well.

Romandeos won't trust somebody who will stab her in the back for gold and jewels. (I'm just expressing the IC views of the country.)
No worries, I kinda figured that Romandeos wouldn't be the type to hire mercs

No worries, I kinda figured that Romandeos wouldn't be the type to hire mercs

I can assure you that you figured correctly, though Romandeos might change her mind if things get too nasty.

Muesia: By All means you can join. Since you are a small nation, military wise you wouldn't make much of a difference but let's just way for Romandeos to put his input in ok?

Nation of Fortune: Yes we will hire mercenaries as you have said so we call you :P

Osoantipatico: You're with me then, ok then.

Jenrak: You are with Romandeos

Canad a: We would love for you to join! So if you want we could find a way to put you in.

Sure. Doesn't matter much to me.

Could i join in? ihave a large army with loads of tanks, that i ogt free when i fought in VSI with willink, i ven got WMDS off him during the Arabanistan scuffle ( i have never even thought about using them except when arabanistan fired his), if so i would like to go on Romandeosian's side

Romandeos I would be interested in joining by your side.

What about me? I already have an IC beef with Romandeos (actually its vice versa, but still).

didn't I add you?

You did? Kay, its all good then.

Did I get overlooked or do I not make the cut?

Dracun's offline right now, so we'll just have to guess...

I just want to make sure they got me.

Sorry bout that! I over looked you really sorry! Well you're added now.

Sorry bout that! I over looked you really sorry! Well you're added now.

No problem. thanks. :)

OOC: We must likely be affiliated with the Romanoes. However, Canada is most likely more technological ahead of both of you and your allies.

OOC: Given that I'm about to fight in World War VII soon, this may not be the best idea, but what the hell. Since I helped Romandeos with his factbook (a little), and I am of the opinion that he's a great player and person, sign me up for Romandeos' side. I'll can ICly say we've had some friendly diplomatic contact before.

OOC: Given that I'm about to fight in World War VII soon, this may not be the best idea, but what the hell. Since I helped Romandeos with his factbook (a little), and I am of the opinion that he's a great player and person, sign me up for Romandeos' side. I'll can ICly say we've had some friendly diplomatic contact before.

Right on. I'd love to work with you in this RP.

I'd like to post more, but I'm really quite busy just at this moment.

Romendeos I would like to join your side.

What are the sides/players so far?

Plot
A Dracun submarine on patrol will enter Romandeos waters due to a navigational error and end up under attack by Romandeosian Naval Force. The crew will be captured and brought to Romandeos which will lead to high tensions from both nations, allies will be called in and the stage will be set for a colossal war that can be averted or fought brutally.
[If you have a better idea by all means suggest it]


I have a way to mix it up a little more - make it 2 mistakes. - the Dracun vessel enters the Romandeos waters due to a navigational error. However, the waters they enter are currently "off limits" because the Romandeos and Mauiwowee navy and airforce are conducting joint, live fire, military exercises in the area. As the Dracun ship enters the area, it is fired upon, originally, by mistake by me and/or Romandeos due to the fact we are engaged in live fire exercises. When they are fired upon, the Dracun vessel figures it is being subjected to an unprovoked attack and fires back - maybe downing a plane or two or damaging a ship at which time the "exercise" becomes "real" and the Dracun vessel is captured. That way Dracun can claim they entered the waters by mistake and fired only in self-defense when they were attacked in an unprovoked nature and Romandeos and his allies can claim they initially fired by mistake on the Dracun vessel, but then they fired a second time in self-defense due to an unprovoked attack by a vessel appearing where it should not have been.

Just an idea on how to complicate matters.

The thread
The Rising Storm (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9651330#post9651330)

Mauiwowee: Sorry I posted the thread before I even looked!

YOou have had a lot of interest maybe you should make it 4 allies each

No were keeping it this otherwise it gets to cluttered so four on four [DI and Romandeos included]

The thread
The Rising Storm (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9651330#post9651330)

Mauiwowee: Sorry I posted the thread before I even looked!

It's ok, check my post in the IC thread - it'll work still, sorta anyway.

OOC info on carrier and planes referenced in the IC post.
The Black Queen

Builder: W.M.D., Inc. Pearl Harbor, Honolulu, Hawaii
Power Plant: Three Nuclear Power Plant (A4W Pressurized Water Reactors?), 3 Screws
Rendundant Power Plant: Two Desiel/Electric (General Electric?) delivering 47,000 H.P. each to 2 of the 3 screws
Length: 1,100 feet
Flight Deck:
Width: 310 feet
Area: 5.75 acres
Catapults: 3, Electromagnetic "ski launch" design
Aircraft Elevators: 3
Beam: 144 feet (main hull), 35 feet (outrigger hulls)
Displacement: Approx. 102,000 tons
Speed: 28+ knots nuclear power/18+ knots desiel-electric
Aircraft: 55 (Standard Deployment, 72 possible with reductions in helicopter compliment)
Helicopters: 20 (Standard - 5 Appache Attack, 15 Sea-Stallion or similar)
Crew:
Ship's Company 2,650
Air Wing 2,100
Armament:
4 Sea Sparrow launchers
4 Phalanx CIWS 20mm mounts
4 Tomahawk DSLAM launchers
Combat Systems SPS-48E 3-D air search radar & SPS-49(V)5 2-D air search radar
3 Mk91 Fire Control
AN/SLQ-32(V)4 active jamming/deception with AN/WLR-1H ESM
6 Targeted EMP arrays
4 Super-Cav Torpedo Launchers (W.M.D., Inc. TL300)
Electronics: W.M.D., Inc. PAL9500AI Computer system & Network w/ 4 layer redundancy
Guidance: Satellite GPS
Communications: Satellite Radio, Television & Microwave based broadband internet
Cost: $6.49 Billion

CROSS-SECTION
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/4469/hmsblackqueen5ld.jpg

FLIGHT & HANGAR #1 DECK
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8110/flightandhangardecks7jn.jpg

HANGAR-DECK#2
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6592/hangardeck25td.jpg

DECK #3
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9528/deck32cg.jpg

DECK #4
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3517/deck49cn.jpg

DECK #5
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3016/deck54zx.jpg

Specifications

Class: Strike Fighter
Model Name: Seagull
Base Model Parameters:
Length: 49.75 ft.
Wingspan: 58 ft.
Height: 16 ft., 5 in.
Powerplant: 2 W.M.D., Inc. ST-4300FJ engines producing 43,000 lbs. of thrust each
Top Speed: Mach 2.1 (unladen) - Mach 1.7 at max take off weight
Crew: 1 (2 optional)
Max. Lift-off Weight: 55,600 lbs.
G-Force Cababilities: 8.25 g's
Climb Rate: 45,000 ft/min
Max Range: 2,100 miles w/o drop tanks (up to 3,000 w/ drop tanks)
Ceiling: 57,000 ft.
Empty Weight: 27,100 lbs
External Hard Points: 8 (10 optional with removal of wing mount 30 mm guns) - wing tip points can accomodate drop fuel tanks to extend range. Missile configurations per hard point are optional as follows: 1) Wingtip accomodates 1 large missile or drop tanks; 2) Underwing accomodate 1 - 4 missiles depending upon size and weight; and 3) under carriage hardpoints accomodate 1-2 missiles dependent upon size (i.e. max missile load = 22 - two on wingtips, 16 underwing and 4 undercarriage {delete wing mounted 30 mm chain guns and add up to 8 more missiles on optional exterior hard point for a max total of 30 missiles}) - SCRAMJET missile/anti-super soar missile capable (requires liquid oxygen & Kerosene fueled missile engine on missile w/ computer aided satellite guidance missile for extra-atmospheric operations) - no more than one missile per ext. hard point with no wingtip hardpoint ability
Interior Bays: None
Construction: Samuri Folded, "20 sided die," Ceramic Titanium/Tungsten alloy w/ advanced poly-silicate RAM coating
VTOL: Yes
Carrier Capable: Yes
Thrust Vectoring: full 360 degrees at 90 degrees/6.5 sec. at max speed (i.e. at max speed I can go from from perfectly horizontal flight to pefectly vertical flight in 6.5 seconds - likewise from perfectly North to perfectly east or west, etc.)
Payload: 26,500 lbs
Armament:
20mm vulcan cannon (2) on forward "winglets"
30 mm chain gun (2) on wings (optional, remove to obtain additional ext. hardpoint) with 20 mm gun synchronic or independent operation
Special Notes re: design/stealth abilities:
1. Advanced poly-silicate RAM (Radar Absorbant Material) coating on entire plane;
2. triangulated openings and re-entrant wing design with 34 degree or less angles on all surfaces;
3. Liquid nitrogen and ambient air cooling for exhaust gases;
4. "Self-shading" gold film, bullet proof, cockpit glass,
5. Matte heavy gray and black coloring.
6. 100 point radar detection capability with return signal masking (i.e. 100 points on the plane will detect a radar "tag" and broadcast a radar signal that cancels the radar frequency return detected by the detection point(s))
Special Note: This plane is not a "stealth fighter" in the same way a F22-A "Raptor" or an F117 might be, it merely incorporates several stealth features which will significantly impact and reduce the plane's RCS, but not eleminate it.
Other Systems:
1. HUD display
2. Rendundant controls (for 2nd crewman)
3. "Fly-by-Wire" systems
4. Laser, radar and thermal targeting systems with AI computer coordination (i.e. on board computer compares radar, laser and thermally identified target coordinates and targets onboard guns/missiles at the "right" target and eliminates or reduces the effects of flares, chaff, etc.)
5. GPS enabled navigation system
6. Radar chaff & HSM flare systems
7. "Astronaut Gel," 60 degree, computer controlled, adjustable pilot seat position for G-force comfort and capabilities.
8. SAM capabilities for rapid carrier deployment
9. LCD touch screen (6) pilot controls for systems and weapons
10. Auto-sense pilot distress systems
Other systems as designated by builder
Estimated base unit cost: $110 million USD each (average, depending on deployed and deleted systems and armaments, not including missile costs).


Undercarriage & Edge on wire frame model
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/9463/bottomview9vi.jpg

Top View & Overhead wire frame model
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/4664/topview9vb.jpg

Side View
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/3125/sideview6gf.jpg

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Class: Stealth Fighter (2 variants - Navy/Airforce)
Model Name: Wraith
Non-Variable Base Model Parameters:
Length: 51 ft.
Wingspan:36 ft.
Height: 17 ft., 7 in.
Powerplant: 2 W.M.D., Inc. ST-3900FJ engines producing 39,000 lbs. of thrust each
Top Speed: Mach 2.6 (unladen) - Mach 2.4 at max take off weight
Crew: 1
Max. Lift-off Weight: 51,000 lbs.
G-Force Cababilities: 8.75 g's
Climb Rate: 24,000 ft/min
Potentially variable Base Model Parameters
Base Model Max Range: 1,000 miles w/o drop tanks (up to 2,400 w/ drop tanks)
Base Model Crew: 1
Base Model Ceiling: 54,000 ft.
Base Model Empty Weight: 25,700 lbs
Base Model External Hard Points: none/two: use with ext. drop tanks or up to 4 AAM missiles each (note decreased stealth capabilities when in use)
Base Model Interior Bays: 3 (Various payload configurations available - typical is 6 AAM missiles in 2 bays and 2 JDAM's in the 3rd)
Base Model Construction: Samuri Folded, "20 sided die," Ceramic Titanium alloy w/ advanced poly-silicate RAM coating
VTOL: Yes/No
Carrier Capable: Yes/No
Thrust Vectoring: full 360 degrees at 45 degrees/20 sec.
Payload: 19,000 lbs
25mm vulcan cannon (2)
Special Notes re: design/stealth abilities: Advanced poly-silicate RAM (Radar Absorbant Material) coating on entire plane; Plasma Stealth technology w/ Plasma "cloud" coverage for trailing edge of winglet tips and tail fin tips, triangulated openings and re-entrant designs, Liquid nitrogen and ambient air cooling for exhaust gases; "self-shading, gold film, bullet proof, cockpit glass, Matte heavy gray and black coloring.
Standard Mauiwowee SAL9500AI computer systems, HUD, targeted EMP generator, etc. are also in use on this craft.
The Wraith
http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/9135/attackview5mo.jpg
http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/9163/topbottomviews5tw.jpg
http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/3949/forwardrearview0dy.jpg

Cost: $109 million each.

Mauiwowee's "Sub-Fighters"

Screws/propellers 2
Engines Jet fuel powered, liquid oxygen injected, modified Rolls-Royce V-12's (2)
Depth 150 feet max tested (250 feet theoretical)
Speed 40 knots max - average cruise 15 knots
Submersible Time Limit 6 hours
crew 2
Weaponry 3 super-cav or standard torpedos (two launchers) / 20mm nose mounted machine gun/cannon (useful only when surfaced).
Range 120 miles submerged at max speed - 250 miles at average cruise speed
Skin "Silicon wax" friction reducing coated "samuri folded" HY-142 steel

Detection Evasion/Systems
a. Thermal signature: -0- at greater than 1/2 mile;

b.Sonar signature (when submerged) as tested against the ship's own sonar system:
1. -0- at greater than 12 miles out at average cruise speed or less,
2. 100% at 5 miles out and average cruise speed or less
3. 100% at 25 miles out at max speed;

c. Lockheed Martin BSY-5 "Lite" Combat Data system (adapted from Mauiwowee Bud Class Submarines);
d. BPS 19 Navigational Radar;
e. Bow and Stern mounted active/passive wide flank sonar arrays;
f. computer aided, sonar guided, targeting system for torpedoes;
g. High intensity focused xeon lights for pilot visibility; and
h. Ejectable sonar decoys (2)

Pilot Safety pilot eject capability with scuba gear (worn by pilots during operations).
Cost $45 Million/ea.
Size 40' long, 35' Wingspan
Arial Capabilities none
Surface Capabilities similar to a patrol boat - max speed is 25 knots - detection evasion, same as average surface PT boat - functional machine gun and torpedo launch ability.

Single Fighter Views

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/928/singlefightervstorpedoes5md.th.jpg (http://img235.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img235&image=singlefightervstorpedoes5md.jpg)

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/6503/underwatershot1rear6yv.th.jpg (http://img235.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img235&image=underwatershot1rear6yv.jpg)

Squadron Views

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/8559/squadron29lc.jpg

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/695/squadron0ky.th.jpg (http://img235.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img235&image=squadron0ky.jpg)


http://img235.exs.cx/img235/6972/squadronattackrearview0uz.th.jpg (http://img235.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img235&image=squadronattackrearview0uz.jpg)

Close up of Torpedo tube

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/131/torpedotubecloseup3mk.jpg

Launch of Sub-Fighters

http://img235.exs.cx/img235/3460/fighterslaunch3le.th.jpg (http://img235.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img235&image=fighterslaunch3le.jpg)

Super Cavitating Torpedo Specs

Based on the 1977, Soviet made skval supercavitating torpedo - enhanced by research to provide guidance (the soviet torpedo was a "straight line" model that once fired could not change course).

Speed: 350 mph
Max Effective Range: 15 miles
Optimum Range:7-10 miles
Targeting: Advanced ADCAP-CBASS( Advanced Capabilities, Common Broadband Advanced Sonar System), adapted from the US MK48 Series of torpedoes currently in use in RL and placed on the sub-fighter which relays guidance commands to the torpedo. Wire launch guidance and GPS programable targeting system enhanced with 45 Degree course change capability/limit.
Propulsion: Liquid Hydrogen Rocket Engine
Guidance: Thrust Vectoring with cantalevering fin tips that project out of the supercavitation bubble and enhanced cavitation using exhaust gases. Dual plane moveable cavitational surface with closed loop computer controlled coordination between all control surfaces and thrust vectoring to effect course changes for torpedo and cavitational "bubble."
Operational Depth: To 1,500 feet.
Cost: $4.2 Million per torpedo - Concussive Exploding head with 425 lbs. high intensity concussive explosive.

I'm gonna have to drop this

OCC: Im still here, i was just out of town for a few days.