NationStates Jolt Archive

Updated - September 18th

We've decided to run on site, after the lack of participants in our last off-site earth. However, 1946 will invovle some off-site play. Maps, Tech info, and political information and such, will be on the 1946 themed site massage board. The wars and such, will be posted here.

Link to Off-site boards.
http://s12.invisionfree.com/Earth_1946/index.php?act=idx (Earth 1946)


Nations Claimed:
Purple - Yugoslavia - Verstummelung
Dark Grey - Germany - Lame Bums
Red - United States - Macabees
Lime Green - Commune of Ukraine - Truitt
Blue - Russia - Philanchez
Dark Green - Italy - Belem
Dark Red - Spain - Korando
Tan - Saudi Arabia - Taldaan
Blood Red - China - Sharina
Dark Blue - Romania - Miltiades
Navy Blue - Switzerland - Brydog

The Website will only be used for.
-Maps
-Tech
-Complaints/OOC
-Facts on your nation - leadership change ect...ect...

We'd like it, if you did join this Earth, that you register on the site, in order for us to mass-email in the event of a major change and such.

A limit is placed to Tech up to the year after the current year, we go by 1 day in real life equals 1 month. Thus, we start in 1945, anything made in 1946 is allowed.

You may claim one nation, your population on NS, and econemy do not apply. You're econemy is based on the econemy of the nation of your choice in the year, before it went into the second world war. For those who play major nations effected by it, thus why we have this rule. Your econemy is effected on how you run the nation, if you get your rear kicked in major battles it goes down, if you win, it goes up, if you get bombed all day and night it goes down. Total conquest of nation's is allowed. Once the nation has been conquered, the nation's player has the choice to stick around and RP a new gov, or leave and let the conquering player all rights to the tech, econemy, slogans, and such from the nation has has captured. Oh, and you get to add on the population count aswell.

Please, send the OOC to the off-site board. Keep this IC only. Make map claims there. It helps us keep track of whats going on. Please also read the rule list, that might give you some info on whats going on.

As reguards to this thread, you can do diplomacy & trade, war, internal affairs, that bit. Everything else, goes offsite please. We want to keep this as user friendly as a possible.

Major events, as in military defeats or victorys will be posted once every two weeks. Natural disasters will also occur on random nations, to keep things realistic. Pre-WW2 boarders apply! And there are no colonies, to free up space.

Please keep in mind the history from 1938-1945 is up to the player's choice. You can throw in whatever you like.

Link to Off-site boards.
http://s12.invisionfree.com/Earth_1946/index.php?act=idx (Earth 1946)

Italy

I already claimed Spain on the other site, but just to say it on both... I claim Spain.

Just here to subscribe to this thread - as the USA.

Damnit, onsite Earths are annoying. What was wrong with doing it all offsite?

Damnit, onsite Earths are annoying.

I disagree, it's no more different than a closed RP or a Storefront.

What was wrong with doing it all offsite?

Offsites have a tendancy to die pretty quick

I meant annoying in the sense that you have to look for things. Ah well, I'll join up anyway. May I be Saudi Arabia again?

Damnit, onsite Earths are annoying. What was wrong with doing it all offsite?

Apparently, you can't advertise them.

Apparently, you can't advertise them.

Says the guy with the World at War advert in his sig. Still, hard luck about the advertising threads. W@W deserves better. :)

I may be interested in playing China.

qeustion, have the Nazi's risen in power yet?

I'll make a Jolt based list of maps, threads, and such for those who only use Jolt and dislike off-site forums. I like doing that sort of organizational crap, so I'll do it - I'll put it up after I do some other things first.

So do we RP here or is there an IC thread?

alright i am really mad why wasnt my nation reserved for me so i could reclaim it?! I was CCCP on the offsite and I have just finished gathering all my factbook info and rewriting history! Gone for two days and you take my nation away...sheesh...

Sorry about that Philanchez, I asked Verst about CCCP over AIM. He said he would find out what he could do and I check here and my name is beside it, so I thought "Cewl."

(OOC: For Russia, I've managed to make it so both of you can get what you want, Truitt has agreed to take the Ukraine, however he wishes for the Commune of Ukraine the map will be drawn up tomarrow. Philanchez you'll get Russia, in a way that will benefit you and Truitt both, if you get what I'm saying *wink*

Oh btw, yes you can post here. Just put in bold letters above your IC post, where the post takes place and that such.

Example:

Yugoslavia, Zegreb.

or

Yugoslavia/Russian Boarder
Eastern Front.

Date and time are optional.)

question, have the Nazi's risen in power yet?

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Alright, I am re-stateing what I have said on the forums on my propossal for the Stalinist Independant Commune of the Ukraine (SICU) (Since I am on iMac and don't know how to copy/paste, it will not be exact).

Ukraine shall be what it was just before Nazi Germany invaded Russia (meaning I got still have a lot of land before the Georgian Seperation in the mist of the Moscow Defence to bring in seperate products of food).

In the beginning, the Commune leaders will meet with Stalin and his people to see on possible alliance, agreements, and so on. It is to be like a USA-Canada deal, but much much more strict and brotherly.

We shall both remain Communist (or until both of us decide to, since eachother will be influencing our most populated regions). Which type of Communism is up to the player, I am planning on changing due to some modifications my leader will do on Stalinism, but still stay Communist.

We shall share eachothers secrets, socially trade (such as I send you 6,700 dollars worth of grain and you 6,700 dollars worth of oil) automatically, and will always be on the same side in either conflict (This can be omitted if any of the following has been disrupted; Change of government from communism, corruption, secretive towards the other, maniac - genocidal - warmongering).

It is best for us to meet before we make harsh decisions, though.

I feel that this should be interesting, as Verst. tells me you rock at tanks, and I ain't too shabby on aircraft and ships.

Only problem I see is the population; Communeal populations were never figured for this time, but it did include the mass of the working class (farmland and communes were located more here than anywhere else).



EDIT: I cannot get the image from my photobucket account onto here on this damn school computer so you might have to go to the E-1946 site and look for a guest named Truitt posting a message "Russia-Crisis" in the lower forums.

EDIT II: ROFLMAO Picture! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Truitt/dfghj.png)

It's not detailed but, yeah know.

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Hitler never rose to power, and I forgot who is the leader of Germany although, although it's equally as belligerent. I don't think Truman came to power in the United States either - we're supposed to get a history up, not sure if it has been done yet.

I was Iran and I requested to be Romania but never got it :(

Can I be Japan??

k, if there has been a mass trail of anti-semetism in Germany and Russia then can I be Zion?

Hitler never rose to power, and I forgot who is the leader of Germany although, although it's equally as belligerent. I don't think Truman came to power in the United States either - we're supposed to get a history up, not sure if it has been done yet.


[OOC: Meh, I've RP'd Hitler's rise to power, and he's still the Fuhrer in 1946 [albeit a bit older but we can live with that, 57 won't kill] and have RP'd changes toward [ahem] my own policies [which, is basically Nazism minus the racial shit].

Also on the map I noticed I don't have Austria or the Czech in Czechoslovakia. Also note that Slovakia was a German protectorate, if anyone indents to play it. If possible can these be fixed?]

(OOC: For sake of keeping it fair, you wont get those nation's Germany. Reason is, we both agreed onto not giving France and Great Britian, their colonies, so thus that would include territory, so Prussia is your's. Because it always has been. Ok I will be updating the E-1946 maps tonight.)

I'd like to know if I'm confirmed for China, or if someone else has China already.

I think Italy controls Sardinia, not Corsica. (Islands mixed up.) And im not complaining, but I dont think Spain controled Portugal.

[OOC: We're role playing on this thread? This is going to get really confusing. I suggest we make seperate threads, and I'll just link them with an Index Thread that I'm good at making.]

[OOC: We're role playing on this thread? This is going to get really confusing. I suggest we make seperate threads, and I'll just link them with an Index Thread that I'm good at making.]

OOC:

I second this motion.

I'd like to know if the history for China is set in stone, and pre-Communist? I want to RP China returning to its roots of an Imperial Dynasty, or so to speak. :)

Index (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9648066#post9648066)

Also, if nobody is going to do it, I'll write the history to this game. Ok, Sharina has already started, but everyone give me a slightly in-depth on how you want your nation to be in 1946. You can twist history to your advantage, etc. I have a lot of time tomorrow since I only have an hour of class, so I can do it then.

Index (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9648066#post9648066)

Also, if nobody is going to do it, I'll write the history to this game. Ok, Sharina has already started, but everyone give me a slightly in-depth on how you want your nation to be in 1946. You can twist history to your advantage, etc. I have a lot of time tomorrow since I only have an hour of class, so I can do it then.

Thanks, Macabees. I was thinking of having my China be similiar to the one I've been developing in E20. The general idea is that a new dynasty has risen in China, do a lot of investment in industrialization and modernization, build a lot of railroads, mines, etc. In addition to that, China begins reforming and training its military to match those of Europe and Japan in terms of quality and structure (Battalions, Divisions, Corps, Army Group, etc.)

Long term plans for China by 1950 - 1955 is to develop an considerable Navy that can match Japan, or at the very least put up an effective defense of Chinese coastal waters aganist any Japanese attack.

Hope all this is workable. :)

the Stalinist Independant Commune of the Ukraine, or SICU, was part of Russia until the rise of an internal coalition called the Kiev Society which pushed for independance, but still being a brother to Russia.

It has slowly gained up in technology on farmland, fishing, and boating, having matchible naval technology as Russia.

oki, maybe RPing as the Zionist's aint good, Palestine free? Arabian insurgency much?

Oh, Japan is taken?? Ok then how about the free french??

Maroon - Japan - Spooty

thats not right.... where'd you get that idea from?

Oh, Japan is taken?? Ok then how about the free french??

France was never occupied, so all French would be free. There's a list at the beginning of the thread, look there.

Palestine is free, but I would hate to see an Arabian insurgency there...regardless, if that's your thing, go for it.

i dunno, i need to think about this...... Maybe Arabian insurgency would also be a bad idea, wait a bit i'll check the frontpage.... No Britain... You need a Britain... if there's no other takers i'd be willing....

oki, maybe RPing as the Zionist's aint good, Palestine free? Arabian insurgency much?

I would have liked to see an Israel, but I understand where you're coming from. Most of the reason for the creation of Israel was the holocaust, and since there was no holocuast there wouldn't really be a political movement to appease a people who have just been destroyed.

Palestine is free, but I would hate to see an Arabian insurgency there...regardless, if that's your thing, go for it.

It seems spooty did not want Japan, so can I have it??

I think both Britain and Japan are open now, so go for it. One question though, how the hell did Spooty's reply to my post appear on top of my post?

i was wondering about that myself, and the only answer i can think of is Gremlins in the Jolt Server.... I never even asked for Japan either someone put me down for it anyway... Wierd... And it just did it again.... AHHHH!

I think both Britain and Japan are open now, so go for it. One question though, how the hell did Spooty's reply to my post appear on top of my post?

[OOC: We're role playing on this thread? This is going to get really confusing. I suggest we make seperate threads, and I'll just link them with an Index Thread that I'm good at making.]

OOC: Agreed

Index (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9648066#post9648066)

Also, if nobody is going to do it, I'll write the history to this game. Ok, Sharina has already started, but everyone give me a slightly in-depth on how you want your nation to be in 1946. You can twist history to your advantage, etc. I have a lot of time tomorrow since I only have an hour of class, so I can do it then.

Spanish Info
Franco and his Fascist Regime gained control of Spain much quicker than in real life due to foriegn support coming in sooner than it did, and an assasination on the republican leader, he won the Spanish Civil War in 1933 as opposed to '39. (Sorry if im godmodding here, but im assuming Fascist Germany/Italy did in fact give aid to the Fascists in Spain) Franco and his party began massively industrializing Spain, and forcing all republican/liberal/Communist types into forced labor camps. So opposed to the agricultural, primitive Spain in real life, they are much more modernized, while not on the level of Germany, Britain, France or Russia, they would have a industrial sector comparable to that of Italy.

I would make invidual threads for major RP's but post a link in the Index thread so it can be updated, and the old RP's would be taken down once they're done.

Spanish Info
Franco and his Fascist Regime gained control of Spain much quicker than in real life due to foriegn support coming in sooner than it did, and an assasination on the republican leader, he won the Spanish Civil War in 1933 as opposed to '39. (Sorry if im godmodding here, but im assuming Fascist Germany/Italy did in fact give aid to the Fascists in Spain) Franco and his party began massively industrializing Spain, and forcing all republican/liberal/Communist types into forced labor camps. So opposed to the agricultural, primitive Spain in real life, they are much more modernized, while not on the level of Germany, Britain, France or Russia, they would have a industrial sector comparable to that of Italy.


The problem is that I'm not sure when German fascism kicked in - by historical terms it didn't appear until 1933, but Germany wouldn't have the military to make a presence in Spain until 1936. So I need Lame Bums to verify this history, to make sure it doesn't interfere with anybody else.

Well, as a Spaniard, I have to disagree with your idea of modern Spain. Spain is not a primitive agricultural society, however, it is true that most of its industry is centered in Bilbao, was it was prior to '39. The only problem was that in the 30s Spain was extremely poor - now it has the eigth most powerful economy in the world, and its the fastest growing in Europe.

Italy, on the other hand, I would say has less industry than Spain, even in the 30s.

Meh, just to keep it realistic let's say some aid, perhaps a bit more than what did happen, let's say enough to become allies. :)

I'm still RPing as the Nazi government, for the most part the same crew with a few newer commanders, but that's about it. Hitler's off drugs and now pursues a policy closer to real Fascism [in other words, no racial stuff.]

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=444495

Added to the index, btw.

[OOC: A note to China, Japan, as of 1939, occupied roughly a third of China, including most of the major industrial centers and ports. You'd have to RP their removal, peaceably or forcibly, from your lands first.]

Meh, I said on...page 2 or 3 what I wanted--a Germany where Hitler's still in power but is more moderate now on race issues, instead focusing on defense and national security first and foremost.

The problem is that I'm not sure when German fascism kicked in - by historical terms it didn't appear until 1933, but Germany wouldn't have the military to make a presence in Spain until 1936. So I need Lame Bums to verify this history, to make sure it doesn't interfere with anybody else.

Well, as a Spaniard, I have to disagree with your idea of modern Spain. Spain is not a primitive agricultural society, however, it is true that most of its industry is centered in Bilbao, was it was prior to '39. The only problem was that in the 30s Spain was extremely poor - now it has the eigth most powerful economy in the world, and its the fastest growing in Europe.

Italy, on the other hand, I would say has less industry than Spain, even in the 30s.

I know modern Spain is quite economically/industrially advanced, I am only refering to Spain in the 30's, which was behind most other powers in terms of modernism. Italy even had a decent industrial sector in the north, and Germany and Italy were actually quite eager to get Franco's "Nationalists" into power, to bring another possible ally into the Second World War, which Italy/Germany expected to occur in the 50's, by then they hoped Spain would be powerful enough to be a threat in the war, unlike what actually happened.

And I dont even know if Germany ever gave military aid to Franco, I know they gave financial support, and Italy sent troops, but im not sure if the Nazi's sent in forces. They may have, im not sure.

Anyways, we're good.

Ah, I get you know. And, the Germans sent the Kondor Legion which was just a mix of aircraft and some ground troops that acted as trainers for the Spanish Fifth Column.

Does anyone happen to have any information on Spain in 1945? I cant even find out their population, and ive searched ten sites. Id like military info if possible, but if I cant find their population...

oki, i havn't done too much research yet, but this is a proposed alternate Britain in, wait what year is it? Ah well, i'll continue, Edward the VIII does not abdicate, King George V is assassinated by Anarchists therfore leaving the throne to Edward, Edward becomes a profound rightist and makes many friends amongst the Conservative party, as Adolf takes power in Germany the Conservative party gains majority, an alliance is proposed with Nazi Germany and with the Kings approval it will be a small feat....

does that impose on any other alternative histories, is it good and not way out on realism, feedback people...

Does anyone happen to have any information on Spain in 1945? I cant even find out their population, and ive searched ten sites. Id like military info if possible, but if I cant find their population...

There's a link in the Admin forum I posted which had very good population data...meh...finding...


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27,136,000 in 1946

clicky (http://www.library.uu.nl/wesp/populstat/Europe/spainc.htm)

oki, i havn't done too much research yet, but this is a proposed alternate Britain in, wait what year is it? Ah well, i'll continue, Edward the VIII does not abdicate, King George V is assassinated by Anarchists therfore leaving the throne to Edward, Edward becomes a profound rightist and makes many friends amongst the Conservative party, as Adolf takes power in Germany the Conservative party gains majority, an alliance is proposed with Nazi Germany and with the Kings approval it will be a small feat....

does that impose on any other alternative histories, is it good and not way out on realism, feedback people...


Not really, except that the Conservatives weren't Nazi-aligned. Remember Chirchill was a conservative and when offered peace he turned it down.

But meh, you could just take Churchill out of the picture altogether...

There's a link in the Admin forum I posted which had very good population data...meh...finding...


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27,136,000 in 1946

clicky (http://www.library.uu.nl/wesp/populstat/Europe/spainc.htm)

Sweeeet. What percentage of your population is allowed in the military during war time?

It's based on your population, your economy, your policy, and of course, your need.

For example nations such as Germany and USA raised some 12-15% of their populations. It's just a matter of finances.

For Spain, in maximum war, I'd guess in the 3-5% range with its current economy, if it was better up to 10%.

Do I own Portugal? I didnt think I did, but according to the map, I do.

Post my history, huh? Well, I'll try.

Saudi Arabia is still ruled over by King Abdul Aziz al-Saud, although there are some rumblings of discontent among those high up. The discovery of oil in 1938 was immediately capitalised on, and Saudi Arabia is becoming rich off the proceeds gained by the government oil monopoly, Saudi Arabian Oil. The money gained has been used to industrialise the country, as well as reforming the army. Chemical works and oil refineries have brought a measure of prosperity to the country.

Despite this industrialisation, the King seems unwilling to exercise this new power. This is in stark contrast to many of his powerful subordinates, led by Muhammad bin Abdul Aziz al-Saud, one of the King's many sons. Riding a tide of nationalism, many high-up figures wish for Saudi dominance over the entire Arabian peninsula.

Did WWII start??

Did WWII start??

No.

Not really, except that the Conservatives weren't Nazi-aligned. Remember Chirchill was a conservative and when offered peace he turned it down.

But meh, you could just take Churchill out of the picture altogether...

no no no, Winston was a screwed up Conservative, he had previously been in the Labour and the Liberal parties, he just wanted a war, now if you look at the conservative previous (Neville Chamberlin) he was opposed to war and signed the appeasement treaty, so if there were another Conservative, a far more rightist Conservative, then it would all work.

Do I own Portugal? I didnt think I did, but according to the map, I do.

Nope, you don't own Purtugal, that's probably an error in the maps. But note that you also own the Canary and Balearic Islands.

All right- where's the information that I need to start RP'ing?

What I mean by that is... what are the timescale, rules, any special conditions, etc. that I should be aware of? This is so that I can RP effectively, without tripping up on anything.

Nope, you don't own Purtugal, that's probably an error in the maps. But note that you also own the Canary and Balearic Islands.

Thats what I thought.

All right- where's the information that I need to start RP'ing?

What I mean by that is... what are the timescale, rules, any special conditions, etc. that I should be aware of? This is so that I can RP effectively, without tripping up on anything.

Timescale is 1 RL day = 1 Month. Most the rules are located on the offsite board.

Thats what I thought.



Timescale is 1 RL day = 1 Month. Most the rules are located on the offsite board.

I can't access the offsite board. I get "Website not available" or "Website not found".

Seems the link is broken. Use this one.

http://s12.invisionfree.com/Earth_1946/index.php?act=idx

I have a few questions about my role as China.

First, what kind of alternate history may I be able to RP? I'm under the impression that in this Earth, colonies and such were eliminated, so should Japanese "colonial rule" over Manchuria be eliminated?

Second, if Japan's "colonialism" in Manchuria isn't eliminated, then what kind of alternate history can I RP to have Japan out of China by 1946?

Third, how should we treat NPC nations? For example, if I have my China choose to invade and annex Nepal, Bhutan, etc. how should I go about it? Surely nobody wants to "permanently" RP such backwards, tiny, and insigificant nations like these?

Finally... I'm not that proficient at technology, research, and "what's feasible in 1945 for China" stuff. Any help in these areas would be very much appreciated. :)

Basically, you have to look into what the current nation had in that time period, and then research new weapons slowly better than previous ones.

Also I believe Military Occupations are still in effect, seeing as how 28 of the Imperial Army's 37 divisions were tied down occupying China, yeah.

Unless Verst nixed the rules list, it stated that only active nations could be invaded.


[meh, finding...]

Edit:

On technology:
The current setting is 1945, ergo, anything in service by 1945 or theoretically possible by then is allowed. Weapons are reviewed on a case-by-case basis, and need to be approved by at least two administrators before they can be used.


NBC Ordnance:
Under no circumstance are nuclear/biological/chemical weapons allowed in this game. Their usage will bring you an automatic warning. NBC weapons have the tendency of utterly devastating roleplays, keep war's conventional please.


Realism:
Here on Earth 1946 we believe in something called REALISM. Please refer to the thread in the Archives section which have to deal with logistics, strategy and the such. That should give you a pretty clear idea of what we're looking for. For example, fleets in WWII time move slower than today's, and this must be RP'd in order to achieve realism. Realism enhances the role playing experience, which is our goal here.

[I'd suggest posting about the basics such as logistics somewhere to be linked.]



Population and Economics:
Population on Earth 1946 begins, and is bound by the real-life population of the nation in this time period. We're shooting for realism, which means to begin, we also have the economies and militaries they had, and go from there. Natural geography and natural geology obviously applies, meaning that the resources at your disposal are those that exist in the real world around the country you have claimed. Under no circumstance will this rule be revoked.


Invasion:
Only nations that are claimed and actively played can be invaded. Furthermore, new nations have a five day 'safe time' in which they can build up their country and do as they wish. However, should they invade at any time this 'safe time' is automatically eliminated and they may be attacked.

Also, when RP'ing wars, play it like a chess game. You make one move on a front, then wait for the other guy to make his move. Don't dogpile four or five attacks in one post, it reduces RP quality and causes serious issues with RPing losses.


Ignore Policy:
No ignoring at all. Players who deserve ignoring will generally be deleted. There is no reason you should ignore someone else. Moreover, there are no closed or invite threads in this role play. All threads are open to all other players by default.


Signatures:
There is a set limit of 1,000 characters, but keep it within reason.


Other:
General rules on godmoding and flaming applies. The administrators reserve the right to Delete on Sight (DoT) and the moderators reserve the right to warn or enforce their powers at will. Of course, flagrant use of moderator powers will be noticed by the administrators and something will be done about it. However, generally speaking, all of the management team is top notch.

Thanks for the info, Lame Burns.

However, I see a potential problem with the invasion thing. Who would want to actively RP a Third World country, like Nepal, Bhutan, Bangledesh, Somalia, Zaire, Rwanda, etc?

For instance, if China discovers vital metals, minerals, etc. in Nepal. China would want to annex Nepal to access the metals and minerals, a realistic move, considering the state of Nepal in 1946, along with the fact that there won't be any nuclear weapons.

Who would want to RP Nepal, knowing that they will lose? See what I'm getting at?

There is a problem with not being allowed to invade non-player nations, it limits potential growth, and detracts from what one is allowed to do, thus, detracting from the RP.

However, there is also a purpose for it. All too often do I see 2 post wars, in which the 'Defence' simply sends all his men forward, they die, and its over. Or they surrender without a fight. Not realistic, not fun, not fair.

Either way, there are problems.

Do I own Portugal? I didnt think I did, but according to the map, I do.


In case nobody answered this, no you don't own Portugal. Those maps are old.

There is a problem with not being allowed to invade non-player nations, it limits potential growth, and detracts from what one is allowed to do, thus, detracting from the RP.

However, there is also a purpose for it. All too often do I see 2 post wars, in which the 'Defence' simply sends all his men forward, they die, and its over. Or they surrender without a fight. Not realistic, not fun, not fair.

Either way, there are problems.

I can see a way to solve this 2 post invasion crap.

Make it a requirement to have at least 10 good posts for invasion of NPC nations (backwards nations like Bhutan, Nepal, Somalia, Chad, Zaire, etc.) and maybe 15 - 20 for moderate NPC nations (Korea, Vietnam, Egypt, etc.) and 25+ posts minimum for invasion of large or well-developed NPC nations (India, Norway, Sweden, Brazil, Mexico, etc.)

Hope that will be a good solution, as there are some good RP'ers who will have no problem RP'ing past these minimum limits, while forcing the "OMG! I win in 2 posts!" RP'ers to improve their RP'ing skills and demostrate their dedication to the Earth 1946 community.

Thus, the problem of restricted expansion is solved, while keeping the RP integrity of Earth 1946 to a high standard instead of lowering it to n00bish RP'ing.

We could also have the administrators role play the resistance. I'll be happy to take a fifth of the NPC invasions. But Sharina's idea is pretty good too.

Putting a minimum number of posts required would only half solve the problem. There would still be no guarantee that the resistance would be worthy of the nation being invaded. The posts could be very basic, not well thought, etc. Having the Mods do it would work, they seem to want to keep the RP going, so they should be interested in providing stiff resistance.

Putting a minimum number of posts required would only half solve the problem. There would still be no guarantee that the resistance would be worthy of the nation being invaded. The posts could be very basic, not well thought, etc. Having the Mods do it would work, they seem to want to keep the RP going, so they should be interested in providing stiff resistance.

My solution to this is to make the minimum of post = at least 2 or 3 paragraphs long.

I guess it could work. Personally, when I do resistance nowdays, I try to win, usually makes the RP better.

And I have a question about money. Does anyone have a translator for money in '46 to modern day? We should work this out, because one of LB's jets he priced over a million dollars, even though it is more advanced than other WWII Planes, the next best (or close to it) would be the American P-51 Mustang, which was priced at $54,000. Tanks too, I would assume they would be cheaper than fighter jets, and most of us have tanks priced in the 100k-250k range. Just suggesting we get some general value of money.

8:1 ratio was the accepted number last time, and I guess it is this time. Just rememebr that shit is cheaper in WWII no matter how you look at it. Fewer gizmos, more industry.

Also, the problem having the Mods do the resistances is that the Mods also have a finite amount of time to RP, and time spent RPing resistances, nine out of ten of which are doomed ones, reduce the amount of time the mods can RP their own nation's.

I actually think that invasions and resistances should be worked out and agreed on over other means before anything really happens.

Seems kinda slow around here. A total of 3 RP's goin on... wonder where everyone else is. And can I get a admin ruling on what it is we will be doing about invasions on un-claimed nations, it really will determine what I do next.

Seems kinda slow around here. A total of 3 RP's goin on... wonder where everyone else is. And can I get a admin ruling on what it is we will be doing about invasions on un-claimed nations, it really will determine what I do next.

Same here. I want to RP a new Chinese Empire that reflects the Ancient Chin empires of pre-Han dynasty times, where Chinese people extended from Mongolia all the way to Vietnam, Siam, Korea, etc. All those small nations around China wouldn't exist if not for China and its "original" Asian race / people.

Sorta like Nazi Germany wanting to unify all Aryan races under one nation, the USA wanting to democracize the whole American continent, etc.

I'll get a role play concerning the United States up as soon as possible, I have some other role plays to finish up first.

I will be playing Switzerland. Happy Lame Bums :)

I'd like to resurve the State of Israel. I know the complecations of haveing a Jewish State with no holocaust but lets just say that Israel was formed for the protection of the Holy City of Jersulem. So that would make Israel more of a state of all religions (Christanity, Judeism, and Islam.)

Isreal-Light Blue-Yukatania

I would like to ask if I'm accepted as Japan?

I wouldn't mind starting up a good RP between myself and Mother Russia herself. It would be a RP on restoring order in the Caspian States which will end up in an invasion of some Soviet-held lands (I got an idea for a change in the communist nations of this world).

Who is Russia again?

Russia=Philanchez


Meh, the rules list state that unclaimed nation's can't be invaded, but all played ones are fair game except for a five-day safe zone.

Also meh, another hostile neighbor. :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

So we arent changing those rules regarding invasions? We need to, I have nothing to do at all...

Russia=Philanchez


Meh, the rules list state that unclaimed nation's can't be invaded, but all played ones are fair game except for a five-day safe zone.

Also meh, another hostile neighbor. :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

In this case, I don't feel like I'll be able to RP in this Earth. I had plans on creating a Greater China by annexing Mongolia, Korea, Nepal, Bhutan, Tibet, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Siam / Thailand, Burma, and Malaysia. Then see where it goes from there.

If I can't invade these tiny, backwards, and Third World nations that nobody wants to take over RP'ing, then how the hell am I supposed to expand and create an empire? I don't plan on world domination, at least for a long while.

This isn't realistic- not being able to invade those nations that nobody would really care about. An invisible barrier preventing any military activity... Ugh.

Either this NPC invasion rule is changed to something like the one I proposed last week, or I don't see the point in RP'ing in Earth 1946 if I cannot engage in realistic warfare, diplomacy, and the like.

Just stating my two cents.

Ill second that. There is absolutly no reason that legit, well fought, well RP'd wars should not be allowed. Lets think about this... a new player comes in, he looks around, there is no way he will choose a nation such as Laos, knowing that China wants this land, and can only invade it if sombody takes it.

Who is going to take any small nation, when they know that as soon as they take it, they will be invaded. Nobody will take a pathetic 3rd world nation knowing they will be attacked the moment they take it. Thus, making people wait for sombody to claim it makes no sense.

Requiring good, well fought, long, realistic RP's makes sense. Even one of your rules says, "We strive for realism...", how realistic is it that a nation cannot invade another simply because nobody has activly RP'd them.

Russia=Philanchez


Meh, the rules list state that unclaimed nation's can't be invaded, but all played ones are fair game except for a five-day safe zone.

Also meh, another hostile neighbor. :mp5: :mp5: :mp5:

In this case, I don't feel like I'll be able to RP in this Earth. I had plans on creating a Greater China by annexing Mongolia, Korea, Nepal, Bhutan, Tibet, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Siam / Thailand, Burma, and Malaysia. Then see where it goes from there.

If I can't invade these tiny, backwards, and Third World nations that nobody wants to take over RP'ing, then how the hell am I supposed to expand and create an empire? I don't plan on world domination, at least for a long while.

This isn't realistic- not being able to invade those nations that nobody would really care about. An invisible barrier preventing any military activity... Ugh.

Either this NPC invasion rule is changed to something like the one I proposed last week, or I don't see the point in RP'ing in Earth 1946 if I cannot engage in realistic warfare, diplomacy, and the like.

Just stating my two cents.

im here as cccp sorry about being inactive but the last week was homecomeing and it was hectic...verst i will talk to you about the history via aim and truitt im me about your proposed rp as i have ideas of my own

Again, the only way I would support this is if one of five administrators goes ahead and defends the NPC from the invasion.

In this case, I don't feel like I'll be able to RP in this Earth. I had plans on creating a Greater China by annexing Mongolia, Korea, Nepal, Bhutan, Tibet, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Siam / Thailand, Burma, and Malaysia. Then see where it goes from there.

If I can't invade these tiny, backwards, and Third World nations that nobody wants to take over RP'ing, then how the hell am I supposed to expand and create an empire? I don't plan on world domination, at least for a long while.

This isn't realistic- not being able to invade those nations that nobody would really care about. An invisible barrier preventing any military activity... Ugh.

Either this NPC invasion rule is changed to something like the one I proposed last week, or I don't see the point in RP'ing in Earth 1946 if I cannot engage in realistic warfare, diplomacy, and the like.

Just stating my two cents.

Seconded, sorry guy's but no invasion of NPC's just plain sucks :(

I agree with both. I think we should acknowledge people who RPing greatly. Remember: Administrators have flaws too (and I should know, I think I am one). I mean, if an administrator godmods once, than so can a normal person, and visa versa. It is human error, so I belive that we should go through this and accept anyone to RP resistance.

As to surrendering, I doubt the entire nation would surrender, just cause the government says it doesn't mean the people do it (sometimes they do...).

As to those who have a single battle, come on. Not even in American Civil War era, where the more numbers ment wins, did they consentrate their army in a single force.

Have small and big battles, a good RP should last at least a week, unless it is a pass-over (like Germany invading Vatican City, but then again, then Himmler or who ever is in control has every catholic in the world to battle against).

I support Sharina's idea.

Alot of RPs die quickly because of rules going against NPC invasion, well how about we leave the larger nations that have a strong chance of being picked.

I know some want the no invasion on unclaimed lands, but alot of us DO, I'm for it aswell, and I will support this idea, based on what Mac went by. We need someone who know's what their doing, perhaps a review of the land to be invaded, determine if it's good enough for an NPC invasion, and will allow anyone who has proven somehow they can do it (Knowing the nation, military, economics...ect.)

Other than that, I'm for this idea, I think it will bring us more players, and leave us active.

I'm going to chat with LB and Mac tonight about this, we will have a decision come 10 maybe 11 PM, depending on if LB and Mac are on.

Having only Admin do resistance will leave many, many wars unfought. Most Admin wont have time, or just wont RP the resistance, regardless of what we say here.

And having no invasions on unclaimed land... well... you're going to lose alot of members due to extreme boredom, somthing im suffering from right now.

so I belive that we should go through this and accept anyone to RP resistance.



Ahem, no one notices the little jewish boy anymore...geez.

This Earth is slower than an obese midget skate boarding up the Himalayan Mountains.

I'm going to chat with LB and Mac tonight about this, we will have a decision come 10 maybe 11 PM, depending on if LB and Mac are on.

Please do... its getting a tad bit boring.

Yes well, I belive the answer will be yes, just along as the RP is good enough and in detail.

Start up a meeting or do some internal things. Running a nation isn't just imperialism.

Ive been doing internal things the entire time. Solo internal RP can only take you so far...

Espania, si? (Spanish spelling is as bad as my english so excuse me)

How about we do a little skirmish battle on say.....Crete. We can RP it as having broken from Greek-Turk rule in the post-WW1 era and both are trying to influence our government on it. Whoever ends up winning, gets the island's right and installs a puppet government.

I guess I'll be communist (duh), what will you be? Oh, and lets make this a more-detail less-massing RP, no big armies flowing, we get to pick a single branch of our militaries to have maximum of (For example I will be RPing my navy being stronger), and Crete can be our only battleground.

Sound good?

Can I be Japan??

Espania, si? (Spanish spelling is as bad as my english so excuse me)

How about we do a little skirmish battle on say.....Crete. We can RP it as having broken from Greek-Turk rule in the post-WW1 era and both are trying to influence our government on it. Whoever ends up winning, gets the island's right and installs a puppet government.

I guess I'll be communist (duh), what will you be? Oh, and lets make this a more-detail less-massing RP, no big armies flowing, we get to pick a single branch of our militaries to have maximum of (For example I will be RPing my navy being stronger), and Crete can be our only battleground.

Sound good?

Sounds good to me, how big the armies gonna be? I would be 'Nationalists' (AKA: Fascist) I guess id make my airforce stronger, or mabey the army... I couldnt do a mass RP anyways... my entire army is 750,000, and id only send like 1/4 of that at the most.

Ha, my Oseat Army is only 98,800 men strong, wow, I feel ubersmall.

I guess my power will come in my navy and airforce (let Russia gaurd my borders on the ground).

I'd say no more than a few hundred, I want this to be very in-detailed, but short (maybe up to four-five pages, nothing big). If you want your army to be the majority, than you could possibly get more tanks and the such as me. I only have about 320 tanks in all, so I probably will only send fifty or so. And I have no airforce, as of yet.

Sounds good to me, make the thread and ill join.

Can I be Japan??

Yeah.

Oh, NPC invasion has been approved. Clear it with a Admin first please. Sorry it's been slow, I've been out of town for the weekend.

LB: Going to reply to the Brunswick bit or not?

Yeah.

Oh, NPC invasion has been approved. Clear it with a Admin first please. Sorry it's been slow, I've been out of town for the weekend.

LB: Going to reply to the Brunswick bit or not?

In that case, I shall reconsider. I have decided I will stay here in Earth 1946, as long as flexible and reasonable RP is ongoing (along with the possibility of taking over NPC nations that nobody wants to RP).

Hey, Sharina, what would you say if you turned communist? (Since you have two communist neighbors, it would figure that you would)

Hey, Sharina, what would you say if you turned communist? (Since you have two communist neighbors, it would figure that you would)

Actually, I don't plan on turning communist. I want to explore China returning to a Dynasty and Imperial type of government. A communist China would be somewhat boring to play, as we all know how communist China turned out. ;)

Time to try a new China, or so to speak. :)

It isn't boring....but yeah. This Earth has been dead, we need to get more into this! I asked Phil. about a communist expansion in hopes it would start up activity.

Well, if all posted more often it wouldn't be dead now would it! That goes for me too!

I propossed Operation: Crimson Tide in hopes it would attract some new activites (which it did, Eastern Serbia). But yeah....we do need a catalyst or something more than just communist expansion.