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Nation X launced a high tech space weapon or satillite. However, the rocket crash landed in a remote area of another nation (Nation Y). Nation Z is interested in obtaining the contents of this satillite.

So, anyone want to join? Im thinking that those 3 nations could be the starting point, with more nations joining as it goes on. What do you guys think about this?

MT, FT what?

I was thinking early PMT. By space weapon I mean possibly a large sattlite with a solar powerd laser (not the most efficient weapon, but almost impossible to stop) or a sattlite carring WMD's or high power conventional weapons. Or a high tech spy sattlite... This is my first attempt to start a roleplay, so sorry that it hasn't really been fleshed out much.

I'm interested.

Still no more depth then XYZ set ups?

I was thinking start with that, but have allies and other third parties come on as it progresses. If you have any ideas that would be great. This is my first attempt to start a roleplay...

I would like to be Nation Y where the it lands

I'll be the third party, Z, out to steal it from both the nation that has it, Y, and the nation that lost it, X.

If no one objects, i'd like to be X.
(well, its the only one left ;) )

If anyone else wants to join, just ask and I will try to find a way to accomidate you.

Or you can just join as the thing gets underway.

OOC: Accomodate me....

I could also be nation X

Having been here for over 2 years now, it'd make since that we might be launching some sort of super-weapon. As it stands, Transnapastain posses no orbital weapons.

I’m very interested in this

If no one objects, i'd like to be X.
(well, its the only one left ;) )

If anyone else wants to join, just ask and I will try to find a way to accomidate you.

Or you can just join as the thing gets underway.

Or that :)

hehe, thought I'd try, I'll keep an eye on the RP, it looks very promising

I like it, Maybe multiple nations could be interested in the crashed sattelite/weapon so that more people can join, or maybe the sattelite/weapon is part of a series of such systems and more than one crash into multiple nations?

ok... lets see

I could also be nation X

Having been here for over 2 years now, it'd make since that we might be launching some sort of super-weapon. As it stands, Transnapastain posses no orbital weapons.


Or that


Accomodate me....

I have some ideas for more people... This is my first attempt to do something like this and so most of my creative juces have been used up, so I'm not sure they are any good...

Mercenary State - Try and get the sattlite for the highest bidder, through diplomatic or millitary means

Another Nation Z - Self Explanitory

Nation with a rival program - Send spys to the crash site to check out the ship, but things get messy when the spys are cought...

If anyone has any other ideas, I would be interested too.

I like the idea about one nation losing it (Axinon) One nation gaining it (Me) and lots of other nations including Axinon trying to retrieve it throught whatever means necessary - be it diplomatic, military, covert, etc...

Now we have to decide on what the actual satellite/missile/whatever is... Any ideas?

My ideas:
A.) Large laser in spase powered by massive solar cell arrays
B.) Idea A with nuclear power instead
C.) A missle launcher with large numbers of WMD's that can hit targets with little warning

Again, any other ideas would be appreciated.

ok... lets see





I have some ideas for more people... This is my first attempt to do something like this and so most of my creative juces have been used up, so I'm not sure they are any good...

Mercenary State - Try and get the sattlite for the highest bidder, through diplomatic or millitary means

Another Nation Z - Self Explanitory

Nation with a rival program - Send spys to the crash site to check out the ship, but things get messy when the spys are cought...

If anyone has any other ideas, I would be interested too.


I could RP the spying nation, or even as the merc gruop. Either one

your choice. Whatever makes you happy and you think will make a better roleplay.

why dont you go ahead and outline that actual rp now so that we can get organized

Ok...

Axinon (Nation X) - Prepares to launch a new weapon into space. The computer error leads to the rocket crashing in DMG with the weapon intact.

DMG (Nation Y) - An Axinonian rocket lands unexpectedly in their territory. When inspectors are sent out, they find a new space weapon, relatively undamaged.

Theao (Nation Z) - Through their intel network, they find out about the satillite crash. Now they want to get it.

Mondoth - My understanding is that they are planning on being another nation Z

Jenrak - Nation attempting to destroy the weapon and make sure another one isn't built

Transnapastain - At first, they were not involved... but one of the nations brings them in, for a fee.

After that, its fairly open ended. Could end up with a diplomatic solution, or war, or something else I haven't thought of yet.

OOC: I'll just be a nation who's worried about these 'rapid' advancements and wishes to take it down and make sure it never arises again. The typical traditionalist.

sounds good

I can try and play as the mercs. Ill take a not so vital role, since i just got back into school...and classes are killing me, that way, if i stop, the story can keep going :)

ok. when should we start?

whenever you want... make a IC thread and post the beginnning story...

(put a link here to the IC thread)

Ok. I'm going to start it tomarrow afternoon, 7:30 EST at the latest but probably earlier. Sorry, but I have school, and then football...

Im too tired to write a decent IC post now...

same here, so it is all good... I will be probably back at around 7:00 EST after a big game against our rivals

good luck. I'm logging off. See you tomorrow.

good luck. I'm logging off. See you tomorrow.

good luck to you too

The roleplay is now at http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9634769#post9634769

Enjoy!

A little about my nation for all those who are concerned.

It is an island.
It is very cold there.
The one and only city has been built underground.

Anyother questions - just post them here

How cold is very cold? Do you mean Russia cold or Artic cold?

It is a good idea to get nation details down i guess. My nation is an island about the size of Australia. There is the one major island along with a few minor ones mixed in. The climate is varied, but isn't that important for this roleplay.

if you want to find a lot specifics you can check my wikipage (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/DMG) (although it is not up to date - as I used to use a different race.)

Very cold means low of 0 degrees F and average of 31 degrees F
Size is about England

Oh, and sorry it took me so long to rply on the IC thread. I had a LOT of homework...

I'm back, crazy stuff yesterday, If you want nation info:
There's a map in my sig, Naveira is a rogue/independent province, and my nation is roughly a little bit larger than Australia, we mine and refine oil, the eastern region is a desert, the midwest is mostly rolling plains, and the south west is mountainous.

Aw man, I was too late to offer a suggestion. But any way, my suggestion was that why not we do something like Dan Brown's Deception Point? A meteorite has been found, and many nation's scientists are rushing to the site to find out whether it could reveal how life began...and only to discover a huge scandal that can throw out a lot of international politicians outta office.

DMG, no offence, but my team hasn't even landed on your island yet.

DMG, no offence, but my team hasn't even landed on your island yet.

No offense, but I never said they were your agents...

No offense, but I never said they were your agents...
Fair enought, but you seem to have implied it.

Fair enought, but you seem to have implied it.

Actually, it is impossible to tell what the soldier was saying... All he said was uniforms that appeared to be from Th - Th could mean Theao but it also could mean The Armed Republic of [insert nation here], The Rouge Nation of [insert name here], The Dominion of [insert nation here], The Democratic Republic of [insert nation here]...

You get the point.

(Besides how long does it take for you soldiers to get to land...)

They dropped 5km outside territorial waters, are travelling at half speed, and there is a storm going on.

well did they ever make it to shore? or did a big whale eat them...

Mondoth, how do your black boats deal with visual light camaras? Your post states that they can disable anything "held by a tourist, clicking away fromt he underbelly fo a plane or drone, or scrying silently from the heavens via sattelite". Just wondering.

PMT? FT? What's those?

This is a PMT roleplay. See the quote to see what a "black boat" is.

A lone trawler was drogueing the area with its nets, every several hours hauling in a new 'catch' of plastc fish, the fish were photorealistic and even had little electric motors in them so they twitched realistically as they were pulled from the water. After being pulled from the water the fish were dumped right back in from secret tubes running from underneath the deck right to where the nets were deployed. after a day or two the fishs' batteries would run dead and the tralwer would be replaced with another. The tralwler only appeared normal from the water though, if a sattelite or recon drone/aircraft happened to get a good look at the trawler from above, the analyss would have a field day identifying all the lenses and domes concealed from the surface, but necesarily open to the sky. however, the purpose of these domes ond lenses was to prevent such a thing from ever happening.

the trawler was one of Mondoth's fleet of special 'black boats' ships that never touched Mondothian waters, never flew Mondothian flags, the crews never even spoke english, spanish or arabic, Mondoth's native languages, and, on paper, the ships never existed.

The lenses were a variety of high powered lasers, capable of blinding any camera, whether held by a tourist, clicking away fromt he underbelly fo a plane or drone, or scrying silently from the heavens via sattelite. The domes consisted of a variety of radar and communications jamiing equipment, incredibly focused, the jammers could make a sattelite thousands of miles away 'disapear' from communications while a crewmen migh be conversing with his mother on a sattelite phone (using a different sattelite of course) and the radar jammers had a similar effect on sattelite based imaging radars. Both systems were just as effective against aircraft and drones as they were against sattelites. The point of all this technological marvel and plausible deniability was that if Mondoth didn't want someone to see something, they wouldn't see it.

This particular 'black boat' was coming on position off the coast of DMG and as soon as it entered the ie arc of the area, sattelites went blind, from IR to visible light, to UV imaging systems were overwhelmeed by focused lasers while radar imaging sattelites were hoplessly jammed and communications sattelites went suddenly off-line, but that was just comercial 'birds' military ones were considerably harder to 'remove as an asset' but the wide variety of systems available would almost certainly ensure blindness in unfriendly eyes.

This is a PMT roleplay. See the quote to see what a "black boat" is.

I think he wants to know what PMT and FT mean

It may have been better if it landed in international waters, then country A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y and Z could have tried to run for this super sat.

that would just be an all out war rather than strategy and diplomacy...

either way this thread is going very slowly as many nations are not responding

oh, ok. PMT= Post Modern Tech, or essentially like modern tiech but 10-60 (?) years later. Modern Time with improvements.

FT=Future Tech, or Sci Fi weapons.

the black boats effectively 'blind' visible and exotic light cameras by splashing them with laser light, try taking a picture with a laser pointer pointed directly at the lens and you'll probably get the idea. I got the idea from something the Soviets used to do to screw with American spy sattelites.

ok, thanks. Now I can proceed with planning my next post.

this RP is going slowww... hopefully it will speed up over the weekend...

First casulty of the entire RP. Never thought it would be a guy in a SR-71 :eek:

Anyway, this is getting good.

Yeh, I will be posting more this weekend and hopefully we can get this thing going..

Nistolonia... watch the God-modding... and if both Theao and Nistolonia have SpecOps in the area - they would most likely run into each other while trying to evade me...

actually, it would be kinda interesting if the two spec ops forces ran into each other...

Nistolonia's would nearly have to trip over my eight people. They are scattered in 4 groups of 2, widely spread out.

actually, it would be kinda interesting if the two spec ops forces ran into each other...

I agree...

Also, when listening and sending radio transmissions you have to make some noise - and both SpecOp teams are already trying to find any enemy in their area... its just a thought. Especially now that they created a distraction - you would most likely notice them... but its your choice

what about me? I've got a whole company sized spec ops force that no one has responded to yet (unless it was in the last few posts, I haven't checked yet.)

Well you have to say more than they came ashore... and you also have to respond to a cutter I sent out to meet your 'black boat'...

Question Theao... The rocket was to alert me of Nistolonia's team? Or to attack me?

Both, it was intended to hit/damage the wall, as well as giving your people a place to search for/know where the 'bad guys' are.

what exactly do your ghillie thermal suits do? Do they block IR?

The thermal aspect is designed to both regulate heat(keep them comfortable temperature) for the wearer, and keep the thermal/IR signature to around ambient(back-ground) levels.
The Ghillie suit is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghillie_suit

thanks thats what I thought

i know what a ghillie suit is

alright, it was just in case you didn't.

Since this majorly effects Nistolonia as well as minorly me, advise waiting for his reaction.

wait a second... when did your soldiers get in my base Nistolonia? One second you were having a radio com, saying make a distraction and maybe we can get in, and the next moment in your in the compound?

By the way, as I have posted before, the compound has three walls, so you can't just blast through one or scale it and be inside...

bump for reply

i thought anyone involved in this RP would subscribe to this tread...

oh, just wondering, this is my first roleplay. How am I doing?

You're doing good.

You're doing good.
I agree

Change "Interior of the Wall" to "Exterior of the Wall"
Sorry, i guess I missed that part.

bump for response in the IC thread

Nistolonia put ooc questions in this thread...

1) its distance from the water is undetermined... y?
2) if you were hugging the wall... my men would see you...
3) I didn't send my troops streaming out of the walls, and you shouldn't say they did...
4) as i posted, my helicopters went back to their air force base... so your men must be dillusional...

OOC:
1) Nistolonian Intelligance needs to know.
2)Nistolonians are shadowsuited-http://unitedimperialstates.myfreeforum.org/ftopic4.php its in there somewhere.
3) It was for effect. I'll edit.
4) Whoops.

I am not sure about the use of personal railguns, it should be talked about before used...

(I read over the shadowsuit... basically it maintains your life without you doing anything... - although a lot of the aspects are quite PMT, such as oxygen filter)

but the main problem I have with it is that even though the are almost looks like day time it is so bright, there are lots of guards, cameras, and sensor looking everywhere, especially the edges of the walls (dont think my guards haven't seen the spy movies where they shimmy the walls) and yet my men are not suppose to be able to see you? even if your suit could perfectly match the surrounding colors, when a guard looked at you he would notice a different depth between the flat wall and your body...

I dont know about you, but I really don't care much about personal railguns


Wikipedia
Man-portable railguns will not be revolutionary weapons; if power supply technology ever allows a railgun small enough to be carried then rail-handguns will probably only be able to fire projectiles at speeds similar to those currently achieved with chemical propellants. The simple reason is that the destructive power of a handgun or long gun is limited as much by recoil as anything else; it is quite possible to build a handgun that fires 20 mm cannon shells, but the recoil would make it impossible to aim or fire safely.

oh, by the way, how far are your ships from your shore, and are there any gaps between your naval forces?

They are about 1000 yards out... and there are not many gaps because of the size of my navy

I'll edit my post.
But I still dont know har far away the coast is...

ooc: you know,t he second those engineers try to open something besides the normal doors, the whole bat will blow sky high.

ANd when are you going to actually attack my special forces?

ooc: you know,t he second those engineers try to open something besides the normal doors, the whole bat will blow sky high.

ANd when are you going to actually attack my special forces?

(you dont need to put ooc, this is an ooc thread)

I know... I am planning on the explosion...

Sorry, forgot about that attack... (kind of busy right now, so I am not sure when it will get done, maybe tonight maybe tomorrow)

This is about Nistolonia's sub in the IC thread
He did mention the sub

In the waters about 30 kilometers from shore, the black water rippled as the Nistolonian submarine Shadowstalker surfaced like some giant grey whale. It remained surfaced for a few moments, then dove again, leaving the ocean as calm as before.

it didn't actually get past the navy

They are about 1000 yards out... and there are not many gaps because of the size of my navy

In the waters about 30 kilometers from shore...

I'm fairly sure that there are subs that can attack with cruise missles from that range. I wouldn't do that, because the sub is probably going to get blasted now. I'd go with something more along the lines of a sattlite missle launcher like the one in this RP, except with a conventional weapon load.

This is about Nistolonia's sub in the IC thread
He did mention the sub



it didn't actually get past the navy





I'm fairly sure that there are subs that can attack with cruise missles from that range. I wouldn't do that, because the sub is probably going to get blasted now. I'd go with something more along the lines of a sattlite missle launcher like the one in this RP, except with a conventional weapon load.


ah... thank you for correcting me, I will edit my post now... and begin BLASTING of sub...

I hope you all realize now that there are 360 armored vehicles and an additional 1000 soldiers surround the compound... so no little special ops team is going to be able to haul a massive sattelite out of the compound...

Who said anything about physically getting the satallite?

DMG, do you have a pic of the bunker?

no... but what do you wnat to know?

Essentially the lay out.
Does it go straight down, go down then spread out, spread out just below the surface?
How deep is it?
What are the walls/floors/ceilings made of?
Those kind of things.

Essentially the lay out.
Does it go straight down, go down then spread out, spread out just below the surface?
How deep is it?
What are the walls/floors/ceilings made of?
Those kind of things.

The hole (with the ladder) goes straight down about 90 feet. And then you step off the ladder and turn 180 degrees and walk into the rest of the bunker (which is buried 100 ft below the surface).

The walls, ceiling and floor, are made of 5 feet of cement with various layers of reinforced titanium.

Should I assume that some sort of notification was sent to my generals about the F-90s preparing to destroy the facility, or not?

Should I assume that some sort of notification was sent to my generals about the F-90s preparing to destroy the facility, or not?

Up to you really... I am just using over kill to attempt to take out the spec ops. You can have them alerted and maintain a safe distance (the explosion is going to be no bigger than the compound - which isn't terribly big) or you can RP something else.

Ok, I'll think about it.

Just asking because Theao's forces have taken positions in the compound and started firing at my men, and my men charged (amazing what lack of combat experience will do...). Trying deside where to go from there.

Ok, I'll think about it.

Just asking because Theao's forces have taken positions in the compound and started firing at my men, and my men charged (amazing what lack of combat experience will do...). Trying deside where to go from there.

maybe the charge will hold Theao's men in place while the Angels come and bomb the place...

Ok, how long untill the F-90's arrive?

I would rather one of you two RP their arrival by hearing them or seeing them (or being blasted by their bombs :D )... This way it doesn't seem like I am calling in an airstrike and the missiles just land on the enemy before he can react...

sounds good. I've just had 16 men blindly charge the position in undisaplined rage, so I'm going to see what Theao does now

I'm doing AMBUSH.

whatever happened to the black boat?

I took it shore, and arrested the crew... they are being iterrogated as we speak...

waiting for responce to my missle strike...

send a tg to Nistolonia - I am not sure if he remembers the RP

just had a nasty bout with a virus, I'll be back in fighting trim in a day or two

no problem...

(I had a nastry problem with a virus - type thing - a couple days ago also... really annoyed the hell out of me. I ended up reformatting.)

I think Mondoth meant a bio-virus, not a techno-virus. I'm dealing with a bio-virus presently.

I think Mondoth meant a bio-virus, not a techno-virus. I'm dealing with a bio-virus presently.

ah hah. True indeed is your statement when I read more closely. Well... yeh....

no, I caught trojan.vundo, had to reboot 4 times and download 6 fixes to finally get rid of it and it cost me my bookmarks and history

no, I caught trojan.vundo, had to reboot 4 times and download 6 fixes to finally get rid of it and it cost me my bookmarks and history
Ouch, suggestion for protecting your favorites(something I keep putting off/lazy) either save them all as a word doc, or put them in word and print them out.

thats what I do. I have them in a notepad document and stored on a external harddrive (along with loads of other stuff - just so you know that I am not super anal about bookmarks... :eek: )

By the way - I executed the crew of your boat...

You were right DMG, it was a techno-virus, not a bio-virus as I thought.

You were right DMG, it was a techno-virus, not a bio-virus as I thought.

Score 1 for DMG!!! :p

I had a backup on my other (not infected) computer, but it was annoying to get them transferred, and I still lost all my history, cache files, host files and many projects I was workign on when the virus 'struck'

I had a backup on my other (not infected) computer, but it was annoying to get them transferred, and I still lost all my history, cache files, host files and many projects I was workign on when the virus 'struck'

That sux... has happened to me many times.

DMG, you arn't refering to my team are you?

Uh... my first spec ops team is still shadowing Nistolonians. The other two that looped around DarkSpace would be in your general area - but not right next to your team.

gotcha.

ouch, my computer out and out died on me, I'm stuck on a lappy which has horrible ergonomics. I'll try and get back into this but expect delays.

Its okay. Its not like we area moving along that fast. Me and Axinon have been posting troops movements and Theao has been saying "And my Spec Ops' team watches..." :p

Its okay. Its not like we area moving along that fast. Me and Axinon have been posting troops movements and Theao has been saying "And my Spec Ops' team watches..." :p
Grrrrrr, lol, I do have a plan, never fear, they shall act in good time.

Does it involve rabid monkeys? Because my men have anti-rabid monkey ops training ;)

Does it involve rabid monkeys? Because my men have anti-rabid monkey ops training ;)

lol!



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Does it involve rabid monkeys? Because my men have anti-rabid monkey ops training ;)
Oh no, he's stumbled onto our plan, guess that plan's out the window, proceed to plan B.

Sounds a bit like Ice Station Zebra...

this is going so slow...

send TGs to all the people who are involved...

Nistolonia, how big is your naval force in the DMG reagon? Just wondering, because it would probably be a better RP if two similer sized fleets fought, and to figure out damage I need to know how many ships each side has.

yeh, and how big is Mondoths?

sorry, didn't make that clear:
2 Heavy Arsenal Ships(Carries about 600 missile in VLS style launch cells)
4 Medium Fleet Carrier (Carries about 35 fighters
4 Medium Arsenal Ships( 300-400 missiles in both VLS style launch celss and Angled launch cells for medium-short range anti ship missiles)
8 Guided Missile Cruisers (Roughly equivalent to a Ticonderoga class, only with two 8 in. guns over one 5 in. and about 25-50 more missiles)
16 Gun/Guided missile cruisers (Half as many missiles as the Guided Missile cruisers, but also carries 12in. guns and some 6in. guns)
12 Missile/Defense Destroyers (ROughly equivalent to Arleigh-Burke class destroyer except carries no convetional gun, is equipped with Rolling Airframe point defense missiles and additional CIWS)
+ Assorted support craft/corvettes and fast attack boats as well as a submarine contingent including 2 SSGNs
(With the decoys however the fleet appears about twice this size.)

you sure you want to attack me with that force...

I'm not attacking anybody, if you haven't been keeping up, my fleet just broke and ran and deployed decoys to confuse anybody trying to kill it.

I thought a few ships were still heading towards DMG?

Three corvettes, hardly a combat force, corvettes are barely even large enough to be called ships, and these are stealth corvettes and staying well away from anybody who might have a beef with them being where they are.

The sattelite is being moved out by sea right? or by air. euther way I have a plan to stop it (I'll enlighten the appropriate persons when I get the info' I need)

It is being transported on the back of a massive truck (quarry truck) to an awaiting Axinon Battleship. From there it will be shipped to Axinon by sea... That is if it gets that far... there are rumors of other plans to steal or destroy it.

Couple of comments:
1) The boats patrolling or guarding the 1200 mile coast of DMG, number roughly 1400... so be aware that your corvettes would have a hard time remaining undetected.
2) Aircraft is maintaining constant patrol over every part of the Dominion's skys and such your helicopters might have a difficult time remaining undetected.
3) Just for your info... my fleet isn't going to chase your retreating forces.

well, if you want your forces to catch either my 'vettes or my 'choppers then its your ball, but if You don't say anything then neither will I.

eh, I am in a good mood.

What are the submarine defenses like for the convoy carrying the sattelite?

If you strike now:

2xFalcon Class Destroyers (ASW)-Anti-Sub Missles and Torpetos, Sonar
1xPellican Class Sub Destroyer - Many Anti-Sub Missles, Guided multidirectional torpeto launcers, redundant SONAR arrays
2xFalcon Class Destroyers (AA)-Torpetos
And the Jason Coon itself, which has the same defenses as the Pellican_Class, except not as many anti-sub missles. However, it is very fast (>35 knots).

However, in roughly 10 minutes (RP Time) it will meet up with the First Battlefleet, which has over 60 ships deticated soley to ASW, plus helecopters, aircraft and ships that have secondary ASW roles

OOC: allright, I'm going to perform a surprise submarine attack while the fleet is underway using sonar decoys (the canisters) to mask the approach of some Mondothian fast attack subs.