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Imperial Palace, Granton, Findan

Emperor Samuel II looked across Imperial Square at all the people gathered there. The palace was still battered in parts from the attempted coup from a few days before.

He started to speaK "My, countrymen today with a heavy heart I announce that as of today we are at war with the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek and any of its allies. We must do this to support Aust, our friend and ally who helped during our recent truobles. May the Godess protect us all." He finished and left the podioum as the national anthem started to play. The time had come to make moves.

The Theocratic Chemicalists of Jenrak would like to ask exactly why should they risk fighting against Automagfreek, when so many nations will come to their aid.
-Nahk Territurari.

The Excessively Armed Empire has never heard of a nation called Findan, but initial intelligence suggests that with their floundering economy and little to no military experience (that we can tell), we should not the slightest bit concerned about their laughable declaration of war upon us.

In fact, until Findan actually ventures into our waters, we will casually ignore them and go about frying bigger fish, such as the coalition of Praetonia, Hogsweat, and Sarzonia that have intruded into our domain.

I urge Findan to withdraw their little declaration of war before they find themselves in over their heads. The Empire is not a force any nation can contend with, and those that rise to challange us will be dashed to pieces in a sea of gore. History will remember Findan only as another victim of the unstoppable juggernaut that is Automagfreek.

Consider yourself warned, there will be no further warning nor instruction given.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

In times of need Findan's brave ally, Aust, stood by Findan, now we stand by her and shall war with her troops.


Sincerly,
Sir Charles Hassahoff
Foriegn Minister
Imperial Land of Findan

OOC: Since my leaders are pretty much blowing you off, you can post your troop/fleet movements if you'd like. If you want to attack AMF proper, know that it is an island. I'll post up the map once I find it.

OOC: Since my leaders are pretty much blowing you off, you can post your troop/fleet movements if you'd like. If you want to attack AMF proper, know that it is an island. I'll post up the map once I find it.
OOC:I'm still working on a map, so. I'll probably go with Austian troops.

OOC:I'm still working on a map, so. I'll probably go with Austian troops.


OOC: Except Aust isn't engaging me directly. He's warring with Holy panooly, which is siding with AMF. While hostilities have been declared between Aust and AMF, he hasn't gotten to me yet. Partly because of the OOC agreements between the 'closed' and 'open' play segements of Operation: Hellfire.

If you'd still like to engage me though, you're welcome to.

Imperial Palace:

"So then we'll be done with Outpost Command and allies and we can move onto Yallak."

"Excuse me, sir, may I speak?"

"Yes, what is it?"

"Findan has declared allegiance to Aust and declared war on AMF. We believe they may launch an invasion on AMF."

"Findan?"

"Yes sir, here's our information on them."

Bhalk grabbed the manilla folder and quickly flipped through.

"Ha ha ha, no seriously. Where's the real info on their nation?"

"That's it."

"Wow...Well, AMF could easily smack down an invasion by them, but there forces would be better spent combating Praetonia. Offer for us to take down the invasion force so they can concentrate on Praetonia."

...Encrypting...
...2 VX Encryption Complete

Official Imperial Communique:

To: Automagfreek
From: Chancellor Licinius

We have heard of this new situation with Findan. While we however do not doubt your ability to defeat any invasion attempt by them, we would like to ask if you would want us to do so? We both want to see your sentinels (sp?) running through Praetonia and burning down their cities. You will also have to take care of those two annoying allies who have sided with him. To do that you may need all the soldeirs you have, and sending some out to squash this invasion would be a waste. In summary, they would be better spent elswehere. As such we would like to offer to stop them so you can concentrate your soldiers elsewhere. We await your reply.

End Transmission

Offical Statement from the Empire of the Swedish Dominions

Hahaha, you gotta be kidding? War against AMF?! Ha ha ha.. This made my day!

Sincerly
King Gustav V Adolph

I would like to join

The Theocratic Chemicalists of Jenrak urges all nations to stop their taunts against Findan, and that hopefully Findan has chosen to be more perceptive in the future, whether near or long-term. We urge that all nations do not do anything disrupt certain economic balances, and perhaps just ignore Findan's declaration.
-Lord of Commerce, Drakthaz

I would like to join


OOC: Sorry, but you only have 3 posts. I like to war against people who have at least some sort of experience.

OOC:Err..I wasn't aware that Aust is only engaging Holy Panloony, but when Aust gets to you I'll start fighting you. I'm not that stupid that I'll go it alone, because AMF, your reputation presides you. So lets consider this like a buildup, ok?

OOC:Err..I wasn't aware that Aust is only engaging Holy Panloony, but when Aust gets to you I'll start fighting you. I'm not that stupid that I'll go it alone, because AMF, your reputation presides you. So lets consider this like a buildup, ok?

OOC: I'm not even sure if Aust will be directly engaging me. Operation: Hellfire is basically 'my team' versus 'their team'. I dunno, we'll work something out.

OOC: Findan, the current situation is that i am engaging HP, (Though he's stopped reply to my posts so it kinda died) but I'm sure we could fit you in somewhere.

Borman, if you go up against Findan you go up against me, this could actually be quite interesting, we could put it up as part of Operation:Hellfire.

OOC: Findan, the current situation is that i am engaging HP, (Though he's stopped reply to my posts so it kinda died) but I'm sure we could fit you in somewhere.

OOC: Borman, if you go up against Findan you go up against me, this could actually be quite interesting, we could put it up as part of Operation:Hellfire.

Actually I was going to let Dracun handle this and then he and I were gonna team up to take down another Praetonia nation in Hellfire.

Offical Statement from the Empire of the Swedish Dominions

Hahaha, you gotta be kidding? War against AMF?! Ha ha ha.. This made my day!

Sincerly
King Gustav V Adolph

OOC: OMFG ZOMEONEZ W4RR1NG WID AMF??!?1? u MUST BE kiDDDDing! AMF W1L CRU5H H1M!!1!1! Plz Liek me automagfreek.
....
You make me sick.

OOC: OMFG ZOMEONEZ W4RR1NG WID AMF??!?1? u MUST BE kiDDDDing! AMF W1L CRU5H H1M!!1!1! Plz Liek me automagfreek.
....
You make me sick.


OOC: It was an IC post man, chill out. :rolleyes:

Actually I was going to let Dracun handle this and then he and I were gonna team up to take down another Praetonia nation in Hellfire.
OOC: I need a opponent though, unless I aid the Prenorian natiomn, which one is it? The RP with me and HP seems to have died as he dosn't reply so....

OOC: I need a opponent though, unless I aid the Prenorian natiomn, which one is it? The RP with me and HP seems to have died as he dosn't reply so....

OOC: Prenorian? No idea.

We have this to say to Findan.............


"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!"

It is your Doom going against AMF.

OOC: Prenorian? No idea.
OOC: Well who are you going up against?

OOC: Well who are you going up against?

Yallak prbly. But unfortunately not for a while.

OOC: Screw it, I'm bored as hell and Hog/Prae are kinda dragging their feet.

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No more than a few hours ago, Lord Dreadfire personally ordered that Minister Hartman's statement be retracted. Findan has made the age old mistake of stepping on the dragon's tail and calling him out, and now you must suffer the consequences. Findan is even more unworthy of an opponent than that of Hogsweat and Praetonia, but we will proceed in decimating your lands as an example to all of our true power and ferocity.

As we speak, fleets from various AMF bases around the globe had been assembling, and soon we will open the fortress gates of Hell itself upon your lands. Ever heard of the Sentinels, Emperor Samuel? Entire populations, civilizations, cultures for that matter, have been literally rubbed from existance at their hands. But I will not go into elaborate detail, for in the days ahead you will witness the carnage first hand.

Make ready, the flood gates will soon spill forth.

Sleep Now In The Fire.

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Marv Bonesplitter
-Department of Defense Chairman-

OOC; Right.....

IC: The sky above Aust city was filled with thge sound of jet engiens ans the 1st, 8th, 12th, 14th, 9th and 21st fighter wings and the 1st, 12th and 15th bomber wings took off for Findan. 3,000 fighters and 1,500 bombers where on there way to protect there age old allie. Every piolet was in a brand new Hound or a B-65ready to do battle.

In the docks of Bambinio, Austs only route to the see, 12 full legions, 120,000 men climbed aboard there transport ships, supported by the 6th and 9th fleets. They where also going to fight against the Freeks in there allies homeland.

In the ASS barracks, in the centre of the Imperial Palace grounds squad after squad of men climbed aboard huge transport ships, 2 legions of ASS would support there ally, 10,000 highly trained soildiers, the best Aust had, and even more fersome than that 12 squads of ASS Deaths Head and royal Guards where climbing aboard specially modified hurculease transports to protect there ally.

In the war room of the Imperial palace, Emporer William watched these deployments and sent a message to his cousain, Empress Heather of Findan.

Heather, tell your husband that I, William the 2nd of Aust, send as much aid as I can spare to your defence, as we speak 9 wings of aircraft are flying to your nations aid, 12 legions are sailing and untold number of ASS move.

Do not be afraid of Damien, though his forces are strong he is overstreache, facing 5 enermys at once, even he annot win. His force shall not be strong when it attacks you, adn certainly air superiority is your as I can send 3 times the number of aircraft to your aid as I already have.

Aust stands by Findan as always, 5.5 billion people ready to fight to help you, Damien may have seas power but that cannot help him once he comes inland and there we shall beat him. Austian forces are some of the best in the world, and the RAF is the most well funded in the world.

If you need more you ahve only to ask, reamber my box heather, use it's power well.

William, Lord of Aust.

Emperor Smauel II was relived when he saw the Austian forces enter Findan. He knew it would be a large and long war, and he hoped he could aviod his nations destuctions, but with help from Aust and the Imperial Armies he knew Findanins could persevieor as they always have.

OOC: I need a little brake from The NS World War (I will still do the side story.) I am joining AMF in this war.

IC: Empress Serena soon decided that Findan was now a threat now that Aust joined them in this war against AMF. So Hataria had to join in the war, on AMF's side.

From The Office of Empress Serena of The Imperial Republic of Hataria

it is Heard by noted that The Imperial Republic of Hataria is now at war with Findan and it's allies. The Imperial militay is now being Mobilezied to help AMF in this war.

OoC: Just nuke his invading forces Findan, you get to cause lots and lots of destruction and live long enough to enjoy it before AMF nukes you back.

The alternative is like throwing darts at a charging bull....and then get destroyed, and be occupied for thousands of millenia after that.

Pick one(pun intended).

OoC: Just nuke his invading forces Findan, you get to cause lots and lots of destruction and live long enough to enjoy it before AMF nukes you back.

The alternative is like throwing darts at a charging bull....and then get destroyed, and be occupied for thousands of millenia after that.

Pick one(pun intended).
OOC: Thanks Dump, personally I think we have a chance, not much oif one, but there is a chance of us winning.

OoC: Just nuke his invading forces Findan, you get to cause lots and lots of destruction and live long enough to enjoy it before AMF nukes you back.

The alternative is like throwing darts at a charging bull....and then get destroyed, and be occupied for thousands of millenia after that.

Pick one(pun intended).


OOC: I would prefer no nukes, unless both parties agree on it.

Oh and Hataria, your services will not be required. I can handle this myself.

OOC: I for one shant use nukes unless I'm nuked myself, of course.

my country will be sending 35,000 troops, 3,000 tanks, 1 aircraft carrier, and a platoon of my special forces to automagfreeks country to help him

We have this to say to Findan.............


"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!"

It is your Doom going against AMF.


OOC: why just wondering ive never heard of them rofl

OOC: why just wondering ive never heard of them rofl
OOC:I've never been that active untill now.

my country will be sending 35,000 troops, 3,000 tanks, 1 aircraft carrier, and a platoon of my special forces to automagfreeks country to help him

OOC: ........

Thanks, but I can handle this myself.

Secret IC:
Strategic Missile Command was a buzz. They were itching to push the little red button for the first time. Dozens of people watched the situation between Automagfreek and Findan. They wanted to launch the big, gigantic, collosal red tomato bomb, just for the hell of it.



***Transmission***

To: AMF
From: Strategic Missile Command

Let us launch one of our big tomato bombs on their capital. We will rain redness upon their nation!



OOC:
For those not in the know. This is a joke post.....

OOC: Sort of...a joke.

IC:

To: Automagfreek.

We have a....secret....joke we would like to play on their capital city. It would cause no real damage, of course, but it would be funny, imagine the tabloids.

[signed] General Mike Bradley

OOC: Guys I think Findans trying to be serious here, in fact i know he is so please lets keep posts serious.

OOC: I'm way over my head, but oh well.

IC:The Emperor looked at his children play, Nick and Erica. They both had the light skin and black hair of thier mother. It helped relive him from the stress that was sure to come. He smilied meekly. He was thankful for all of Aust's help, and for help from anyone else who could spare it.

OOC: If we lose then we go down fighting, and are worthy of remberence. People still reamber New Sparta, Austo-Hungary don't they!

IC: Heather walked in and smiled at the children, Nick with his cars and Erica with her dolls. She smiled at her husband and walked over, "The first Austian forces have begun to arrive, I've taken the liberty of ordering defences to be prepared on our beaches in case of invasion."

OOC: If we lose then we go down fighting, and are worthy of remberence. People still reamber New Sparta, Austo-Hungary don't they!

IC: Heather walked in and smiled at the children, Nick with his cars and Erica with her dolls. She smiled at her husband and walked over, "The first Austian forces have begun to arrive, I've taken the liberty of ordering defences to be prepared on our beaches in case of invasion."
OOC:I've never heard of them...but that does not say. Can we also move the war to my reigional forum, for it easier for me to post there http://greatercladonia.free-forums.org thank you.
IC:"Thank you, my dear" said the Emperor "Your cousin has been most grasious.

OOC: It's a NS war and should stay that way, whats hard about posting here?

IC: "Well hes the Emporer, isn't he, and since his brother died he's been iching for a proper fight. He wants to breate a legercy, not just be yet another Emproer of a long line of Emproers, his brother is reambered for the manner of his death, Emproer Justin for the HLF and Elvindom wars, Palpatine for the Nuevo kowloon war, and william wants the same."

ANGEL transmission to Findan and Aust.

On orders of Councillor Solar: the Empire of the Isles, also known as the Empire of Dumpsterdam, will offer its unwavering support for both Findan and Aust in this time of need, all of our ports, airfields, bases and outposts are available for you to use in your campaign.

The Empire will also offer a large amount of weaponry, equipment and several thousand volunteers in the defence of Findan but will not deploy any taskforce or surface combat group to the area to actively aid in its defence.

We request that you honour our request of not involving us in this matter, for the Empire currently does not seek any active conflict.

On request of the Empire of Aust and Emperor William, the Royal Navy, however, is willing to dispatch its AMF observation group towards Findan to monitor the coming battle and hopefuly better understand enemy naval, air and ground tactics.

Angelica Raditz,
Lady Admiral of the Royal Navy,
Commanding Officer Royal Southern Fleet.

OoC:

Edit: No, I'm not getting involved, too many things to do but I can give you some medical personal, military attaché's and equipment, plus the use of my bases.

OOC: Thrashia, space ports and space ships sound a little more advanced than PMT. I do not RP against FT, however I'm sure we can work something out.

And Dumpsterdam, not to be an asshole, but I still have you on ignore from our last....encouter.

OOC: Which is why it is simply acting as a big armada of transport ships. They aren't involved in the conflict other than to get my military there.


OOC: *points to the edit he made*

I do not RP against FT, however I'm sure we can work something out.

OOC: Simply follow the link to my military and decide whether you wish for me to be able to use it.

OOC: Simply follow the link to my military and decide whether you wish for me to be able to use it.
OOC: I highly doubt he'll do that.
IC:

Gentlemen, please. Are we to act as uprisings within in the world? Think of what profits may be lost and what damage to the economic infrastructure could come from this fruitless war. The money that is spent could be much more wisely spent on things that could make you richer, but yet, war is all that matters? There bigger priorities than this, we believe. Surely war is not the first on both sides' agendas?
-Lord of Commerce, Drakthaz

Dreadfire let loose a bellowing laugh as he read the day's news. Little bastards are coming out of the woodwork. His officers immediately turned to him for orders, but Damien casually dismissed the declaration of war. His fleets had been parked for weeks now waiting for the forces of Praetonia and Hogsweat to attack, but so far the action was few and far between.

Dracun Imperium was the most bold of the aggressor nations attacking Automagfreek, vowing to land on AMF soil and defeat the Freeks on their own ground. Soon the world would witness the true power of Automagfreek, that which the world had yet to behold.

~From the desk of Lord Damien the Destroyer, Supreme Warlord of the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek~

Thrashia...I wish I could say I've heard of your nation, but alas I cannot. I promise you that on this day you have made the single most deadly mistake that you could have made on this Earth. Though we know nothing of your insignificant nation, I can confidently say that it would be an honor to have you and your soldiers die on my beaches. That's right Emperor Shadaum, I am calling you out.

The world has taken a turn for the mad, declaring war on the single most lethal and destructive Empire in the history of mankind. I can assure you that the blood of your troops will flow like a river, and from high atop a 25 foot pike their lifeless corpses will be put on display for all to see.

I plan to make an example out of Thrashia and Findan, two nations that have made a mistake that will haunt them until their final day....assuming that their lands still exist after the Sentinels have done their work.

Come to Automagfreek, or choose to die on Findan's soil, it really makes no difference to me.

Sleep Now In The Fire.

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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

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OOC: Normally I do not RP with any FT nations, so I trust that you will be reasonable.

To: Lord Damien the Destroyer, Supreme Warlord of the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek
From: Serena, Empress of The Imperial Republic of Hataria, Queen of Algeria, Empress of Southeastern China, Mayor of Hong Kong, Queen of Cuba, etc.

We decided it is better to ally with you then to fight you.

OOC: I don't mean to be rude, but if you haven't noticed I would rather not RP with you.

OOC: And Dumpsterdam, not to be an asshole, but I still have you on ignore from our last....encouter.

OoC: Your point exactly? Findan(through Aust originaly) is one of my allies, so I think I'd be allowed to ship him a few billion dollars worth of supplies and equipment no?

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OFFICIAL INTERNATIONAL PRESS RELEASE
MINISTRY FOR NATIONAL DEFENCE

The Consitutional Republic of Rotovia reminds AMF that upon our swift and glorius defeat of Parthia will seek the blood of the evil and befoiled AMF.

[signed]
Senator Ivana Cuvalo
Minister for National Defence
Minister for Internal Security

OOC: I don't have 'stats', but here is the best you will probably get. I don't play the number crunch game. In an RP I'll say roughly how many planes or troops I have, but I never break it dow further than that.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=411125

If you want to read abit about the Sentinels and have some time, read the first post or two in this thread (be reminded that the first few posts are from 2 years ago, and the....difference in writing quality shows).

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409653

Maps.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9533891&postcount=350

As far as who's fighting who, unless Findan wants to try and take me out at home, I suppose I will be invading him. But ICly he declared war first, so logically my leadership is braced for an invasion.

OoC: Your point exactly? Findan(through Aust originaly) is one of my allies, so I think I'd be allowed to ship him a few billion dollars worth of supplies and equipment no?

OOC: Yes, but any direct involvement on your behalf will be ignored.

OOC: Yes, but any direct involvement on your behalf will be ignored.

OoC: I couldn't care less, I don't have time to waste on trivial things like warring with you, but I'm not bailing out on my allies either.

OOC: AMF, Dracun is on your side, unless he changed sides in some post I didn't see.

OOC: Lets stop the bickering okay, Dump can you TG me the sort of forces that your offering (Weapons ect), AMF I also don't play the number crunch game and thus don't have any real stats, I'll tell you what I cna.

The standing Autsian army is 400 legions, (10000 men in one legion) This is the regular paid army made up of the best from every year of conscription.

I have my Conscripted forces (Reservists) that number about 1000 legions) this are men between 14-16.

I have my home guard which is everyone who was conscripted but not taken on, IE Buisnessmen ect. each is presented with a rifle when they leave the army and is ordered to join there nearest HG Legion center. These only come into play if you invade Aust.

Then I have the Volounteers who have chosian to join up, these are still undergoing training and will join the legions when they are fully trained (A legionarre has 2 years of conscription training, plus 4 years of normal training, ie there pritty highly trained.

My speicial forces are the ASS, I have 100 legions of these or 500,000 men. (5,000 men=1 legion) these are the elite of my army who have served before in wars and are the very best of each conscription year.

And then I have the palace guards and Deaths Head ASS, there are 10,000 of these and they work in squads of 5. There the best and have had about 11 years of training (So there 25 when they come out.)

I don't have any tanks.

And to give you a few ideas I think you should note that A) Williams wife is Thrashian, a relation of Williams (Prince James) is courting a Thrashian Princess, His cousain is married to findans Emporer so therefore his nephews are there children. It's a 'you hurt one, you hurt all' situation, I'm sure you'll get ideas from that info.

I'd post my airforce and navy but you cna find that on my wiki.

I presume that your message to Thrashia has been passed on.

IC:
Thrashia...I wish I could say I've heard of your nation, but alas I cannot. I promise you that on this day you have made the single most deadly mistake that you could have made on this Earth. Though we know nothing of your insignificant nation, I can confidently say that it would be an honor to have you and your soldiers die on my beaches. That's right Emperor Shadaum, I am calling you out.

The world has taken a turn for the mad, declaring war on the single most lethal and destructive Empire in the history of mankind. I can assure you that the blood of your troops will flow like a river, and from high atop a 25 foot pike their lifeless corpses will be put on display for all to see.

I plan to make an example out of Thrashia and Findan, two nations that have made a mistake that will haunt them until their final day....assuming that their lands still exist after the Sentinels have done their work.

Come to Automagfreek, or choose to die on Findan's soil, it really makes no difference to me.

Sleep Now In The Fire.



The message finished scrolling down the screen, a picture of Emporer Shadaum appeared on the screen, William nodded at the man. "Thank you Emporer, that was most informative. My advice for you is that you land your forces in Findan and begin to fortify that nation. If AMF does attack then I balive that his first blow will strike there or upon Aust, and my nation is well defended."

"Damien is not a fool and he would be a fool to strike at the stronger nation until the lesser has been defeated. He would be leaving himself open to attack from Findan if he attacked here as it would take all his armoured prowness to break the Bambinio strip. And even then his men are ill equipped for Austs unique conditions. Findans a far easyer target."

"I must go now as I have to organise my forces, I trust James is okay and I will contact you in 3 hours, I hope to organise a video confrences with you and my cousain in law."

the screen went blank and William walked away, back through the war room, he needed sleep, he hadn't slept for 24 hours. He looked at the peices on the war board, yellow for Austian, Blue for Thrashia, yellow for Findan, red for Automagfreek. There seemed so much red compared to the yellow, green and blue peices in Findan.

Aust looked sacure though. They had got so many forces in the Bambinio strip that it was a mass of green. And more green peices where moving there all the time, digging in, filling the 10 mile wide and 100 mile long strip of city a mass of fortifications.

Seige guns where being hauled into positions, Philboxs beging built, bunkers being created. He could imagine his men in there cold weather gear, battling through the snow to haul a pick into the ground, or safe inside a building clawing loopholes into the massive walls, letting the freezing tempretures in.

HE'd ordered a full civillian eveaction of strip and he would admit that it was currently choas, the Moterways and trains crowdered with cars and passangers. Soildiers marching one way, civillians the other.

He could do no more there he knew, millions fo men defended the strip. He'd ardered a full home Guard call up in the area, and thus had about 1 million legionarres there, and 20 million Home Guards men, not to mention the reservists.

The turned his attention to findan, the small nation that lay in the path of the storm. 12 little green figurines stood on it's coats, each figurine representing 10,000 men. it seemed piterfully few. The air force and fleet looked better though. 3000 fighters is some force to content with.

He could do no mroe but sleep,and awake for the next confrence with his military leaders. Tehre was something he'd forgotton to though something vital. the TV adress, he would adress the nation on ABC News, tell them what was happening and issue a challange to Dreadfire, a public challange.

He made his way to the throne room and sat in front of the cameras, General Nolan on his left, Air Marsial Hayden on his right. He smiled at Charlotte behind the Cameras and began. "Fellow Austians, I come tonight to offer you news, both grave and joyious. Over the past hours I knwo there has been much speculation about the militarys move to red alert, the evacuation of the bambinio strip and the deployment of our forces in Findan.

As you no doubt know we have had a feud, a cold war if you will, with Automagfreek for many years now, you will also know of our ceonflict with holy panloony and the start of what has been termed as Operation:Hellfire. As you know we have a key role in that war.

You will also know that the brave nations of Findan and Thrashia have defied AMF and are udner the threat of invasion. no doubt AMF will decided to attack those smaller, weaker nations than himself. Thus Aust will step in as Findan and Thrashias protector. We have the support of many nations around the globe in this.

I will not let Findan and Thrashia fall. we are allies and thus I have ordered 12 legions and sevral air wings into Findan. However now I lay down a challange.

Damien, sometimes known as 'The Destroyer', I know that you are considered by many to be the most powerful nation on this earth and I ask you, how did you get to this state? Was it by attacking nations such as Findan? Was it by being a mere bully and a dishonourable coward and attacking weak nations, I can name many. Aust is not a weak nation however. We can offer you a far fight, man to man. If you can come to Aust and break through our lines then you are turely the most pwoerful nation on earth. I will accept that.

If you atatck Findan then you are naught but a coward. I am calling you out Damien, attack Aust and defeat us and I will call you the destroyer, I will call you Sire, until that time you are no more than Damien the Coward.

Sleep now in fire Damien, for the fires of Hell await cowards. Reply pubicly not through closed doors, let all see your responce, do not send me a private message."

With that William stood and walked away from the micraphone he need to dleep.

OOC: Because I use mobile suits, my brigade figures will seem small. However, a mobile suit is an average of 16.5m high and is most times armed with a 105mm machine gun (made for mobile suits) one shell are roughly the size of the average human man. But since my mobile suits are made of titanium they are susceptible to all types of normal small arms (rockets) and tanks, fighters, etc. they can be destroyed by MT means.

Because I live on another planet from ‘Earth’ I have sent one army. If it is defeated, none shall follow. Supplies of course will be sent, but no further armies.

1st Mobile Army
Commander: General Aupel von Cluashwitz

Forces:

1st Brigade
- 3100 Leo Early Types
- 250 Aries
- 530 Zaku IIs
- 100 Zaku Is
- 120 Tragos
- 300 Serpents

2nd Brigade
- 600 Leos
- 150 Aries
- 345 Zaku IIs
- 275 Zaku Is
- 120 Tragos
- 230 Serpents

3rd Brigade
- 450 Leos
- 200 Aries
- 240 Zaku IIs
- 80 Tragos
- 100 Serpents

4th Brigade
- 380 Leos
- 330 Aries
- 400 Zaku IIs
- 230 Zaku Is
- 140 Tragos
- 120 Serpents

Special Forces
- 24 Tallgeese MS
- 12 Zaku I (a) Snipers

Auxiliary
- 5000 Assault Troopers
- 300 Alpha-class tanks
- 400 MTA-F02 Fighters

+ Reserves that General Cluashwitz brought with him: 200,000 Assault Troopers, 350 MTA-F02 Fighters, 150 Alpha-class Tanks
(Link to my army’s homepage where you can see stats on it and where it describes what a Leo is and what my mobile suits are: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=443689)


IC:

General Cluashwitz stood at the head of his flagship’s bridge. All 106 ships of the 1st Fleet surrounded him in space, also in orbit. Below was the Earth. It was beautiful from space, like a giant blue-green marble sitting on a dark floor. One of the general’s aides stepped forward and saluted.

“General, all ships have reached orbit and are prepared for deployment.”

“Thank you Karl, inform all Brigade commanders that I will be giving them their deployment orders shortly,” said Cluashwitz, he still stared at the Earth. The aide simply saluted and left again. Cluashwitz sighed. ‘I am getting old,’ he thought to himself. He punched his chest hard with his fist and cleared his throat. ‘But this old warrior has something left in him.’

He turned and walked over to his command chair, sitting down he called up the chair’s computer. Maps appeared of Aust, Findan, and of Automagfreek. He began typing in numbers and letters into the small keyboard beneath the screen. After a dozen minutes he stood again and told the comms officer to get him a line to all Brigade commanders. On the ships main screen computer four faces appeared. Colonel Brianock, Colonel Varlen, Colonel Weimar, and Colonel Dankin, each face was set and determined. They were experienced officers, and new when the general was about to give orders.

“Gentlemen, I am soon going to issue the final deployment orders, however before doing so I must go over a few details of our mission.” He watched their reactions then continued satisfied. “The enemy we face is one that has never been beaten before. But then neither have we. I am intrusting each of you with command of your brigades as you see fit, once grounded. Only when I see a gap in changes or orders, or enemy movement from orbit will I send a message to you. Do you understand?”

“Sir!” was chorused from the four of them.

“Very well, I am sending my orders now. God speed Colonels.” He clicked off the screens and pressed for his orders to be transmitted. Within 14 hours, all Thrashian forces had landed.


“This is Leo Patrol 262, sector A1 is clear Colonel.” Three Leo mobile suits scanned the surrounding area where one of the drop ships had landed. Colonel Weimar’s Aries hovered overhead. “Good Lieutenant, have your company offloaded and set up a perimeter of 4 km in all directions. This will be our base camp for the time being, until we can find a more defensible spot.”

“Yes sir.” The other Leos of the lieutenant’s company began being unloaded from the transport. Weimar shifted his screen view to the left; several dozen other transports were doing the same.

Another pict screen opened up on Weimar’s display. “Colonel, I have our landing report. All transports reached the ground in and around the city. Three transports were damaged slightly on atmospheric entry. As far as we know, the enemy did not spot our landing, other than the heat trails that could be seen from space by the enemy’s observers.”

“Thank you Major Jaeger, have all companies center on the area I have selected to be our rally point. Once all companies are accounted for and assembled I will begin to deploy each accordingly. Have you managed to get in contact with the local Findan commander?” Weimar asked.

“Yes sir, there is a local Findan colonel who wishes to speak to you. One of my Zakus almost had a bad run in with a NE heavy tank,” Jaeger smiled ruefully. Weimar nodded. “Very well Major, continue on and make sure Captains Zander and Fauss report in with their Special Unit companies. I will need to brief them directly.”

“Yes sir, Jaeger out.”


Within 13 hours all companies of the 1st Brigade had assembled at Colonel Weimar’s rally point. The area was slightly congested with parked Leos. To keep the enemy from sending bombers or other air forces Weimar kept at least one company of Aries in the air at all time, to discourage any inconvenience from the enemy.

The local commander of Findan forces had been more than a little unhappy about the area around the city to be used as Weimar’s base, but eventually let him anyway when Weimar told him that his army was here in support of the Findan and not against it. After speaking with the Findan colonel he went back to his command tent. Inside both Captain Zander and Fauss were standing inside. Because he was the 1st Army’s XO he had command of the army’s Special Forces.

Zander was a tall muscular man with deep black eyes and matching hair; he was also unusually quiet for someone who was the best Tallgeese pilot in the 1st Army. Fauss was the exact opposite as you could be from Zander. He was short and lanky, seeming to look weak; but Weimar knew for a fact that Fauss was simply acting, he was the best Zaku sniper specialist in all the Thrashian army, when not in active combat he was the instructor at the military’s training academy. His silver gray hair and equally gray emotionless eyes added to his act.

“Hello Captains.” They both came to attention and saluted with perfect parade ground stance. “Sir!” Weimar smiled and saluted back. “At-ease Captains, I’m glad you were both able to report so quickly.”

“We’re here as ordered sir,” said Zander. Fauss nodded. Neither man was very sociable, each had clocked more mobile suit piloting time than any other man in the army. Their men in the special unit were also similar in that respect. Because of their class as Special Unit captains they were allowed to choose their men, instead of being assigned men. This meant that the men under their command were more able to react and fight according to the expectations of each captain. Thus far Weimar had not seen how the system had failed.

“Indeed. I have a special assignment for you two.” They both seemed to perk up. “You Zander, I want you to take your men and determine the enemy strength and position, I need all the information you can give me.” Zander nodded. Weimar turned to Fauss. “You Sniper Fauss will do what you do best. I want you and your long range rifles taking a toll on the enemy’s ships and heavy equipment. According to the reports I received from the local Findan commander, the AMF military has yet to land troops. If you both take your men and transports tonight to the coast you can be there by night tomorrow.”

Both men nodded, then went to attention and saluted. “Yes sir,” said Zander. He turned and left. Fauss smiled with a chilling look in his eye. “Mission accepted Sir.” Fauss turned and sauntered out of Weimar’s command tent. Weimar felt a slight chill even though it was warm. Shaking it off, he went over to his desk and sat down before a series of maps and reports from his Brigade commanders. He pored over the maps and began devising a strategy for his Brigade to take.


Orders Log
General Cluashwitz private files

2400 Hours:
1st-3rd Brigades deployed to the nation of Findan

2340 Hours:
4th Brigade deployed to the nation of Aust.

Enemy Activity
Unknown…

On board the submarine FIN Swordfish SSBN, 120 nautical miles of the waters of AMF

The Swordfish was the pride of the Findanian fleet. She had been on patrol when the war orders came. Prince Terence Vandalnd, counsin to the Emperor was a Leitenant in charge of fireing tomahawk missiles at AMF. The Cpatain gave the order "Let 'em have it." Ten tomahwak missiles fired from the sub and straemed toward the capital of AMF.


Post you losses.

All across Findan troops were mobilizing getting ready to take on AMF. Like his cousin in law Emperor Samuel II was making a speech "Alas, my countrymen we shall win this war. If we are invaded we shall reple the invader. But we shall not be invde we will invade AMF itself, and if our good Ally Aust is invaded we shall repl the invader there. Thank you May the Godess bless our Empire. Hail Imperial Findania"

OOC: Findan, could you provide a map of your country?

OOC:That might take a while.

OOC: Even so, its a key factor is me being able to rp my forces correctly.

OOC:Thrashia I just tg'ed you on that I'll strat on it tommorrow, beacause its on a different computer.

The Fallen Races is interested in fighting with Findan, against AMF.

The Fallen Races will commission the 1st Combined Naval Force to strike against AMF if my help is requested.

The 1st Combined Naval Force:

1x Valkyrie Class Helicopter Assault Carrier Blader(See Leafanistan Storefront)
1x Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier Katrina
4x Arleigh Burke Class Naval Destroyers Rita, Andrew, Betsy, Camilla
110x Cobra Class Attack Helicopter Dragoon Squadron 1-109
Enough men and supplies to go around

On board the submarine FIN Swordfish SSBN, 120 nautical miles of the waters of AMF

The Swordfish was the pride of the Findanian fleet. She had been on patrol when the war orders came. Prince Terence Vandalnd, counsin to the Emperor was a Leitenant in charge of fireing tomahawk missiles at AMF. The Cpatain gave the order "Let 'em have it." Ten tomahwak missiles fired from the sub and straemed toward the capital of AMF.


Post you losses.

OOC:That's what we call a 'godmod'.

I will not post losses because you did not RP your fleet movements, nor allow me to defend against your presense. You totally disregarded my fleets, coastal artillery, underwater mines, long range missiles, and aircraft that all would have been attacking your fleet well before you even came close to my mainland.

I am willing to RP with you, but it had better be done the right way. I don't have the time nor patience anymore to deal with godmods. If you want Aust to help you out and learn the ropes, then feel free.

OOC:That's what we call a 'godmod'.

I will not post losses because you did not RP your fleet movements, nor allow me to defend against your presense. You totally disregarded my fleets, coastal artillery, underwater mines, long range missiles, and aircraft that all would have been attacking your fleet well before you even came close to my mainland.

I am willing to RP with you, but it had better be done the right way. I don't have the time nor patience anymore to deal with godmods. If you want Aust to help you out and learn the ropes, then feel free.

OK.

Could it be at all possible that he was outside all of these defenses?
That doesn't sound like a godmod to me.

OK.

Could it be at all possible that he was outside all of these defenses?
That doesn't sound like a godmod to me.


OOC:

Slight problem.

120 nautical miles of the waters of AMF

Hard to understand what he is saying. Did he mean 120 miles off the waters of AMF? Does he have other vessels in the area? Any other vessels in support?

While I don't require exact numbers, I need a bit more detail to better understand and reply to his posts. 120 nautical miles off of my waters would put him at 370 nautical miles (granted Tomahawks have a range of 600 nautical miles), and other than mentioning the one sub, he wasn't specific enough.

HOWEVER, my biggest problem was that he demanded I post losses without giving me a chance to defend.

I'll respond to his attack, but that does not guaranty that I will take losses. The capital of AMF is in the near center of the island, and my country is known for its extensive anti-air and anti-missile nets. 10 missiles is like spit in a bucket.

OOC:I'm 120 miles from your coast and that sub was on patrol when the war decloration came. Ten tomahawks won't do thta much damage and then you can send tons of subs after my subs. It was a lone wolf sub. Sorry I should have explianed that I was in a hurry earlier. I hope that explians everything

Sir, radar is picking up inbound missiles on grid 7-6-3-9'er. Zander, who controlled the eastern fleets immediately walked towards the radar console with a look of concern. How many missiles are we talking about here? 50? 100? 500? The radar operator shook his head and muttered 10 sir, 10 missiles. Long range missiles to be exact, using our satellites and backtracking through recorded data over the last half hour. we traced it back to a sub in international waters. Hard to tell whos it is.

Zander scoffed loudly and waved his hand in a dismissive manner, not caring one bit for what he saw. They're going to have to try harder than that. Have the Sentinel take care of it, don't let the missiles near the mainland, you never know if they're "dirty" or not.

Within seconds the Sentinel answered with a volley of its own missiles. Screaming out from their VLS tubes came a volley of a dozen and a half 'Hellrage' interceptors, incase some of them misses their targets. White trails of smoke were the only reminders of the launch no more than two minutes after the order was given, and the Sentinel's guidance system estimated that the enemy missiles would be destroyed some 115 nautical miles off the coast of AMF.

Coastal batteries were alerted to the launch, but they were not concerned in the least. The eastern fleets would handle the meager launch with great ease and continue to keep their eyes on the waves in case the unknown enemy decided to venture closer.

OOC:I'm 120 miles from your coast and that sub was on patrol when the war decloration came. Ten tomahawks won't do thta much damage and then you can send tons of subs after my subs. It was a lone wolf sub. Sorry I should have explianed that I was in a hurry earlier. I hope that explians everything


OOC: Slight problem, AMF claims 250 nautical miles of water, with sub and mine nets extending up to 200 nautical miles.

OOC:I had no idea what your claim was.

IC:One missle remianed, but it went of track and veered towards a coastal city.

OOC:The Fallen Races any and all help is appreicated.

OOC:I had no idea what your claim was.

IC:One missle remianed, but it went of track and veered towards a coastal city.


OOC: .......might want to put abit more effort into your posts, just a friendly suggestion from one player to another.

*****************

Sir, it seems one of them slipped past our interceptors. Zander nearly slapped the officer silly, enraged that AMF's latest and greatest anti-air weapon managed to miss its target (OOC.. :rolleyes: ). Bastards. Very well, send another interceptor from the Sentinel and alert ground control that one of the missiles had changed course. Ready ground based 'Hellrage' missiles and 'SmartFlak' just in case. I'd rather spend the extra ordinance than have good soldiers die. Also, I want subs in the area of the launch immediately to not only hunt for this intruder, but to also see if there are others.

Sentinels on the ground readied their SmartFlak cannons after a single 'Hellrage' missile was shot from the ground, making a total of 2 missile interceptors, one from the Sentinel class Super Dreadnought and one from the ground. AI targeting systems plotted an exact path towards the missile, which was now closing in on the mainland.

Images from the on board cameras showed the exhaust trail from the enemy Tomahawk, and immediately the on board guidance locked on the missile and recalculated its course. The targeting systems on the two missiles worked in unison to execute a pincer move on the much slower Tomahawk, which was now dangerously close to land.

Ground crews readied their SmartFlak cannons incase for some very odd reason the two interceptors managed to fail, which was nearly 100% unlikely. The large cannons turned eastward and prepared to fire if need be, radar and AI targeting systems continuing to track the missile as it came closer.

Mere nanoseconds seperated the enemy Tomahawk and the Hellrage missiles from impact, and ground crews watched eagerly as the distance between all the weapons was closed.

OOC:BUMP....Damn I hate navel warfare

OOC: I quite agree. There are submersible mobile suits, but I would never use them, I hate naval battles.

OOC: Air powers far more my thing, naval forces are pritty crap once you have 10,000+bombers escorted by twice that many fighters coming in.

On board the Helicopter Assault Carrier Dragoon, they had just recieved the declaration of war issued by the Chancellor. General Hideki Eido answered the call.

"HAC Dragoon to Naval Command. We are patrolling at TFR's nautical boundary at 30 nautical miles. Request to activate the 1st Combined Naval Force."

"Permission granted Dragoon. Katrina, Rita, Andrew, Betsy, Camille, and a new craft, Ophelia is en route to your position. Move towards 500 nautical miles from AutoMagFreek's coastline, in preparation for a path clearance."

"Ophelia?"

"Patrol craft. High speed, low durability. Keep it safe, it's the only one we have so far."

"Understood. Holding position at 30 NM out."

OOC: For those of you who've forgotten, the 1st CNF is:

1x Nimitz-class Supercarrier Katrina
1x Helicopter Assault Carrier Dragoon
4x Arleigh Burke-class Naval Destroyers Rita, Betsy, Andrew, and Camille
1x Patrol Boat Ophelia
and 1x Triton-class Submarine Chancellor 1

(The theme of this particular fleet is destructive hurricanes.)

OOC:how many Tomahwaks can an Ohio class SSBN fire at one time. I was not sure and I did not want to godmod thugh I did anyway sort. More to come when I get the answer.

IC: The missile was destroyed

OOC: 24 Trident II Sub-launched ballistic missles (tacticial nukes.) or 154 Tomahawk missles.

IC:

"NCSC Katrina inbound on approach vector."
"Understood. Dragoon reports no bogeys."
"Ophelia, Chancellor 1, Betsy, Andrew, Camille, and Rita are inbound as well."
"Understood. Move out to 500 NM from AMF territorial waters."

General Eido was pacing around the Dragoon's bridge. THey were now 100 NM from shore, unsure of their heading.

"Patrol Boat Ophelia reporting in, sir."
"What's the word, ensign?"
"AMF is 750 NM from here. We're 250 NM from the beginning of the net."
"Understood. Set heading for Ophelia's location."

500 NM from AMF's shoreline.

"Any snipers here?" An ensign was running around looking for someone to snipe mines.
"One." A sniper walked up to the ensign. "Where's my scuba gear?"
"Over there."

A few minutes later.

"Lock on. FIRE!" The aquatic sniper rifle fired of a round here or there, hoping to shoot a mine and trigger the entire net.

OOC: As stated in the 'End of All Things To Come' thread, the mines are not at the surface. They are housed inside a 'Crawler' manufactured for me by The Resi Corporation that rests on the sea floor, passively scanning for activity. Once the Crawler detects an enemy ship or sub, the targeting system locks on and releases a mine. The mine floats to the surface and collides with its target with the help of electro magnets.

To my knowledge you can't fire sniper rifles underwater.

I can get you links to descriptions if you want.

OOC: And you expect me to know this, how?

IC:
"Retract the sniper, it isn't working." The sniper pulled up.

"We'll have to wait for the D4 (Destructive 4, the Destroyers in the 1st CNF.)"
"Here they come!" With flags a flying, Camille was the first up.

"Camille. Find these 'Crawler' things. shoot them with a good old fashioned howitzer round."

OOC: Howzars in the water? Surley they would be completely uneffective, lets try to up the RPing standed guys. I'm sure we can do better than 'The missiles was destroyed' how about something a bit more discriptive?

And i'm certain Howzars don't work underwater, they fire a m=issile up and down, water would A) MAke sure than it wouldn't be accurate-currents and B) Slow it's decent. Reamber the crwaler is sevral thousand meters down.

OOC: I agree Aust, I think the standards in this thread do need to be raised.

Fallen Races: The only ordinance that will work underwater is torpedos and depth charges. Since the Crawler sits on the sea floor, there's no way sonar could pick it up, seeing as it is smaller than a sub (hell, even if it was a sub sonar would have difficulty).

You could use MAD gear, but as explained in the 'End Of All Things To Come' thread, the Crawler is made from high grade carbon composites.

Not sure how you plan on taking them out (because we all know I'm not just going to tell you how to do it, you'll have to figure a strategy out on your own), but sniper rifles and cannons won't work underwater.

I'll also give you a rough overview of my defenses. These are listed in distances from my shore in nautical miles:

250 nm+: Long range missiles
40 nm to 200 nm: Crawler mine carriers
60 nm to 150 nm: Long range aircraft (fighters, bombers. Naval based or stealth craft from the mainland)
60 nm to 90 nm: 'Devil's Finger' long range heavy cannons
40 nm to 80 nm: Medium range missiles
35 nm to 75 nm: Medium range aircraft (fighters, bombers. Naval based)
5 nm to 60 nm: 35" cannnons
5 nm to 55 nm: 30" cannons
5 nm to 50 nm: 25" cannons (both land based and Super Dreadnought based)
5 nm to 40 nm: Short range missiles
2 nm to 30 nm: 16" cannons
0 nm to 30 nm: Short range aircraft (Naval and land based)
30 nm to 0 nm: Assorted artillery and mortar fire

Hope this helps, mind you I do have fleets lurking around my mainland and islands. So quite literally as soon as you pass the 250 nm mark that begins my territory, you're under fire.

Bumps

OOC: I agree Aust, I think the standards in this thread do need to be raised.

Fallen Races: The only ordinance that will work underwater is torpedos and depth charges. Since the Crawler sits on the sea floor, there's no way sonar could pick it up, seeing as it is smaller than a sub (hell, even if it was a sub sonar would have difficulty).

You could use MAD gear, but as explained in the 'End Of All Things To Come' thread, the Crawler is made from high grade carbon composites.

Not sure how you plan on taking them out (because we all know I'm not just going to tell you how to do it, you'll have to figure a strategy out on your own), but sniper rifles and cannons won't work underwater.

I'll also give you a rough overview of my defenses. These are listed in distances from my shore in nautical miles:

250 nm+: Long range missiles
40 nm to 200 nm: Crawler mine carriers
60 nm to 150 nm: Long range aircraft (fighters, bombers. Naval based or stealth craft from the mainland)
60 nm to 90 nm: 'Devil's Finger' long range heavy cannons
40 nm to 80 nm: Medium range missiles
35 nm to 75 nm: Medium range aircraft (fighters, bombers. Naval based)
5 nm to 60 nm: 35" cannnons
5 nm to 55 nm: 30" cannons
5 nm to 50 nm: 25" cannons (both land based and Super Dreadnought based)
5 nm to 40 nm: Short range missiles
2 nm to 30 nm: 16" cannons
0 nm to 30 nm: Short range aircraft (Naval and land based)
30 nm to 0 nm: Assorted artillery and mortar fire

Hope this helps, mind you I do have fleets lurking around my mainland and islands. So quite literally as soon as you pass the 250 nm mark that begins my territory, you're under fire.

OOC: Then I refuse to play. This system seems deliberately sounds like a godmod. It may not be, but that's not something anyone can compete with. I'm sorry.

IC:
"All teams, turn back. We cannot penetrate their defenses." As the nation's ships turned towards the horizon, the Captain was saddened by this. "If only there was some way to do this..."

OOC: Then I refuse to play. This system seems deliberately sounds like a godmod. It may not be, but that's not something anyone can compete with. I'm sorry.

IC:
"All teams, turn back. We cannot penetrate their defenses." As the nation's ships turned towards the horizon, the Captain was saddened by this. "If only there was some way to do this..."

OOC: WHAT?!?!

How the hell is a layered defense a godmod? You DO know how to RP war, right? Please explain this to me.

I have different size tools I use to defend my nation, and anyone else here most likely wouldn't have a problem with this. I fail to see how this is a godmod or cheating to have different sized coastal guns and missile batteries. Being a MT/ Slight PMT nation, stuff such as the Crawlers aren't that far out of a concept, especially since Resi gave them to me, I don't manufacture them (so once they're gone, unless I buy more they're gone).

I've made it clear in several threads the level of defense my nation has, and so far nobody except you has had a problem.

OOC: Then I refuse to play. This system seems deliberately sounds like a godmod. It may not be, but that's not something anyone can compete with. I'm sorry.


ooc: Dude....that is a totally reasonable defense.

OOC: Then I refuse to play. This system seems deliberately sounds like a godmod. It may not be, but that's not something anyone can compete with. I'm sorry.OOC: That's preposterous. AMF's defences are certainly *hard* to get through, but not *impossible*. It's going to take tactics to get past those defences but it's doable.

OOC: That's preposterous. AMF's defences are certainly *hard* to get through, but not *impossible*. It's going to take tactics to get past those defences but it's doable.

OOC Dolphins and Remote Underwater Mine Sweepers will take out the crawler mines. Easily trained and low cost.

OOC: Then I refuse to play. This system seems deliberately sounds like a godmod. It may not be, but that's not something anyone can compete with. I'm sorry.

OOC: People can compete with it, hell I have very similar defences protecting Aust.

There is nothing godmodish about having protection. He's planned his defence well and well done to him. Did you expect just to be able to stroll up the beach?

OOC: Then I refuse to play. This system seems deliberately sounds like a godmod. It may not be, but that's not something anyone can compete with. I'm sorry.

IC:
"All teams, turn back. We cannot penetrate their defenses." As the nation's ships turned towards the horizon, the Captain was saddened by this. "If only there was some way to do this..."

OoC: Uh, you know that its completely reasonable right? I mean, if you think this is bad, see my defences, I mean, the money spent on keeping people out of my region is probably your entire GPD.

But I'll give you a bit of help since you seem to find it so hard to break it.

250 nm+: Long range missiles = Decent CIWS, AMS will do alot, you will have up to a minute, if not minutes to prepare for this strike and can position your ships to your advantage.
40 nm to 200 nm: Crawler mine carriers Just start lobbing depth charges around, you detect a mine going up? Send a few thousand kilo's of explosive goodness down.
60 nm to 150 nm: Long range aircraft (fighters, bombers. Naval based or stealth craft from the mainland) Time advantage, use your own aircraft to counter, you can't fire into a dogfight so wait for anything to break out and aim for the bombers. Also the latest SAM's and radar systems might help...put a few AWAC's up while your at it.
60 nm to 90 nm: 'Devil's Finger' long range heavy cannons Counter.battery.fire. Use whatever you have to locate these guns, and return fire with bunker buster missiles, top deck land attack missiles and even aircraft if you have too.
40 nm to 80 nm: Medium range missiles As above, just make sure your ready this time, you won't have as much time, use already damaged escorts as screens.
35 nm to 75 nm: Medium range aircraft (fighters, bombers. Naval based) Same as above.
5 nm to 60 nm: 35" cannnons Same as above
5 nm to 55 nm: 30" cannons Same as above
5 nm to 50 nm: 25" cannons (both land based and Super Dreadnought based) Ah, the Sentinel, well, to be honest, I designed my SD to bring down that thing so I doubt it'll last very long, otherwise same as above.
5 nm to 40 nm: Short range missiles Overwhelming CIWS and AMS will hopefuly do you some good, if not, these missiles usualy pack small loads so praying will help too.
2 nm to 30 nm: 16" cannons Same as above.
0 nm to 30 nm: Short range aircraft (Naval and land based) Same as above, this time, be sure to strike at airfields that are lauching these things, might thin down their number some more, remember to protect your carriers.
30 nm to 0 nm: Assorted artillery and mortar fire Easily done with counter-battery fire, their usualy open guns and easily located.

Just something that popped into my mind right now at 3 in the morning, so it probably has a few flaws, but atleast its a working plan.

OOC: Thanks dump, your good at all this navel stuff.

Slam! Crack! Slam! Crack! Slam! Crack! The noise was audible even over the sound of the cheering crowds. 100,000 Thrashian Assault troopers were marching in perfect drill formation through the streets of Aust. Tanks also came in small groups between regiments, and occasionally a single Leo mobile suit would be seen, its huge form walking slowly down the street; leaving small cracks in the hard pavement. Colonel Varlen sat in his command car next to the Austian governmental building. He smiled as he watched his men march by. He was proud of them. Ever since he had been a little boy, he had always liked military parades. There was just something in them that made ones chest swell and left you with a sense of invincibility, even more so for the soldiers in them than for the people watching.

“They will need this when the time comes,” he said to himself. He was thinking of the eventual AMF invasion that he knew must happen. He turned his head to face the Austian major who had come to escort him around the city and to take him to the main military headquarters. The major turned his head. “Not sure what that means sir, but I agree with it none the less.” The young major smiled. Varlen just nodded and turned back to watch his men. As commander of the 4th Brigade he had been given responsibility to make sure Aust did not fall under invasion. So the other brigade commanders had given him 100,000 of the Assault Troopers, 400 of the Alpha Tanks, and something close to 300 of the MTA-F02 Fighters. This augmented to his won mobile suit forces, was sure to be a very affective. ‘But how affective?’ he thought to himself.

Later in the day Varlen had a meeting with the general staff of Aust. “From the tactical data which you have provided me, I will be deploying my men as thus: all my ground infantry will be sent to defend at what you call the ‘Bambinio strip,’ as well as 200 of my Alpha tanks. For the most part my mobile suit forces will remain to the far rear of the Bambinio strip and simply be in reserve along with the other 200 Alpha tanks. I am also giving the fighter wing commander of my Fighter forces his own autonomy in working with your own air forces. I am a ground soldier, and leave the skies to him. But concerning the Bambinio strip here,” he pointed on the map to where the mountain arms formed a bottleneck in the middle of the Bambinio strip, “is where I will position a company of Leo and Tragos mobile suits, I will have them dig in into the very mountain. The affective weaponry of my mobile suits should give that position a longer time to hold out than the front positions.” He stood up strait and faced the Austian commanders. “I have faith that we can hold out against the initial invasion gentlemen, however, I think we will need more help.”



“Colonel Weimar! There’s a Findan commander on the comm. For you sir!” shouted a young lieutenant up at Weimar. The colonel had been sitting in his Aries cockpit some 14m up from the ground. He stuck his head out and looked down. “Very well Lieutenant, I’ll be there in a second,” he shouted down. He moved the control panel from his lap to the side dash where it belonged and then got up from the pilot seat. He took hold of the elevator rope and then pressed the button on it. He slowly moved downwards until he reached the ground.

Wiping his forehead on his the sleeve of his R&R clothes he walked into his command tent. His comms officer handed him the headset. “This is Colonel Weimar speaking.” A voice crackled over.

“Ah, good, Colonel Weimar. It is good to finally be speaking with you. I asked you fellow brigade commanders who was the overall commander and both said to contact you.” Weimar made a mental note to ‘personally’ thank Brianock and Dankin when he got the chance. The man on the line continued. “Simply speaking colonel I am contacting you so that I may set up a meeting concerning the defense of Findan.”

“I have been waiting for one to happen, where’s it at?” Weimar asked.

“In the Findan capitol in two days,” the man on the other end said. “Good, see you there,” said Weimar. He clicked off the comms button and handed the headset back to the lieutenant.

“Anything happening sir?” he asked. Weimar looked at him for a moment. “No lieutenant, now get back to making sure that Dankin and Brianock get their forces to the rendezvous point I selected.”

“Yes sir.”

OOC: Seems I was gone for a day and we had a little argument...its a tuff defense, but like dump showed you, its not completely uber impossible to crack, just be prepared.

OOC: Aye, you do know it's about -11 in Aust don't you?

OOC:

ALRIGHT ALREADY! JEEZ! That was some stupid mistake I made. Now I know how to destroy you.... *dun dun dunnn*

OOC: It won't be easy mate, but you've got a safe place to fall back to if you get routed.

IC:========Secret Message from Emporer William the 4th of Aust to The fallen Races Leadership=======

Sirs, my intellagence reports show that you are planning an attack upon Automagfreek, Aust is in full support of this action, however such an attack will not be easy for Automagfreeks defences are strong, we encloses a guide of his defences annd our suggestions on how to best them (See file: DumpTacticH41AMF). We cannot send millitary aid as of current however should you need a place to fall back to we are happy to offer our Ports in The Bambinio and our Island fortress in the Medterrainian, Baralisis. We are sure that your fleet will be safe from attack at eather of these towo loctations.

OOC: Yea Aust, I know. My mobile suits are capable of operating in climates as hot as the Sahara and as cold as the Artic. And my assault troopers have everything with them, so their winter uniforms are with them as well.

OOC: Now that I'm back in this mess....

Aust: BTW, my leader is Chancellor Of The Armed Republic Kaito Saruwatari.

IC:

The Los-Angeles class attack submarine Ophelia has joined the 1st Combined Naval Fleet. The Patrol Boat went on nameless.
"Sir!" An ensign had entered the bridge.
"Go ahead."
"There's a couple crawlers down there."
"Drop depth charges." And so, they begun. Boom. Boom. Boom. As the carpet dropping began, the major smirked. With the tip sheet provided by an ally, they knew just how to break AMF's destructive defenses. But, he was pulled out of his lull by another ensign.
"Sir! Cannons on the shore are aimed for us!"
"Bring all guns to bear! Launch the first few 'copters to get us an improved radar view! We're under attack!" On all the ships, the gun turrets pointed towards shore, locking on to distant targets.

Sir, intrustion 3 o'clock.

The fleets of The Fallen Races were still too far out of range for the Devil's Fingers to do their damage, but within mere seconds of the incursion a large score of shore and ship based long range missiles were fired. The different batteries coordinated their attack and made sure to fire in unison for greater affect, and at any given time a literal mass of several dozen misiles was in the air. Their altitudes varied greatly to further confuse the enemy radar and increase their odds of scoring a hit, and the merciless barrage of long range ordinance would not cease until the Devil's Fingers could do their job.

Below the waves, sonar on board the Crawlers detected metallic objects decending from the surface, and the on board computer projected a new location. Slowly the drive mechanisms inside the Crawlers whirred to life and the spiny legs began digging into the sea floor for traction. As the Crawlers in the area began relocating, they locked on the ships above them dropping the depth charges and released their first series of mines. The enemy vessel(s) above were electronically 'painted' by the on board guidance systems, and from here on out the mine would use its ample sized drive system to move itself underneath the ship. Once in range, the electro magnets would engage and finish pulling the mine in, where the resulting explosion would create enough energy to literally force the ship several feet above the water, and as it slammed back into the water the pressure would snap or severely damage its keel.

The Crawlers then sent a coded transmission to the other units in a 2 miles radius, streaming data from the enemy movements as well as their redeployment. The billions of 0's and 1's were read by the other units and immediately their mission protocol and logs were updated, as well as the central mainframe on the land. For now the other Crawler units would continue to passively scan the waters with sonar and wait for the enemy to advance into their respective domain, as the course of the enemy ships was now recorded, and with assistance of satellites they were effectively being tracked.

Several Supremacy class submarines in the are were also alerted, and a small fist of them were diverted to scope out the situation. Roughly half a dozen were within a 10 nautical mile area, and their engines roared to life and propelled the massive steel beasts through the cold salt water. No more than 2 or 3 would move directly into the area, while the others would circle around and attempt to set up flanking positions in case the enemy decided to turn about and retreat, or send subs of their own ahead of their ships.

Large streams of data were sent to the mainland and Zander's flagship, the War Nerve. So far it had been a textbook interception, and the famous Warchief wanted to make sure that things stayed that way. Planes on board several of his carriers as well as the mainland were put on high alert, with a small flock circling a several mile radius overhead.

Sir, enemy fleet just over 200 nautical miles. Should we launch our long range aircraft? Zander, who had been charged with the defense of that particular sector, dismissed the suggestion and ordered the missile and Crawler strike to continue. He would save his aircraft for a much more worthy opponent. The Devil's Finger crews were ready, although the enemy was out to sea roughly twice its affective range. Unless they had a ship with a gun larger than 50", the crews were confident that any missile counterattack could be successfully repelled with intense medium and short range missiles, and if need be SmartFlak. Knowing that there was no such ship known to mankind, Zander was not worried. He would simply blast his foes from a distance and watch with delight as another batch of souls were sent back to their creator.

OOC: ...wow. OK, let's try this on for size. I thought I was 500 NM, but that's OK with me. :p

IC:
"Missles inbound!"
"Prepare for rail rifle fire."
The troops stationed aboard the Katrina began to open fire on the missles. They knew how to lock on their targets like hawks back home.
"Launch Dragoon 1-19! Prepare for long range craft!"
"Understood! SCRAMBLE!" Pilots ran out to the Cobra's stationed aboard the Katrina. They knew just what to do.

OOC: I was assuming that you had moved into my territory when you stated that you were dropping depth charges on my Crawlers, which extend to a maximum range of 200nm. You also stated that you were about to
bombard my shore, which would suggest that you were within 30 to 40 nm. But we all know that you wouldn't make it that far without engaging my other defenses, so I will still assume that you are at roughly 200nm. Unless of course you state otherwise.


And as far as shooting down my missiles with rifle fire....LOL! Neverind that missiles travel at hundreds upon hundreds of miles per hour. The human eye cannot spot something going that fast, aim a godmodded rail rifle (see your other thread for my explanation), and hope to hit it. I'm shooting long range cruise missiles at you (mainly Tomahawk), and those travel at almost 600 miles per hour. I'll give you my soul if you can lock on and shoot one of those down with an assault rifle.....

And Tomahawks are slow as hell compared to the other missiles I will be launching at you the further you get inside my waters.

The missiles continued their attack run at subsonic speed, their altitudes ranging from several thousand feet in the air to skimming the ocean surface. Zander laughed himself almost into tears as he watched the satellite feed of Fallen Races soldiers firing vainly at his missiles. What the fuck are they doing?!? No human being can shoot down a projectile moving that fast, let alone see it before it is too late. This is the funniest and most pathetic thing I have ever seen in my life!

Scores of long range missiles continued to fly through the air literally unopposed thanks to the ineptia of their targets. With random infantry fire being their only means of defense, the missiles had no trouble approaching their targets and commencing the last leg of their attack run. The missiles that were looming in the atmosphere began their final decent, picking up great as they plummeted towards the ships below at great speeds, the boosters on the missiles putting out maximum thrust.

Zander continued to watch the real time footage of the attack, and he smiled as he glanced over at the controller next to him. The missiles were dangerously close to their targets now, and the thought of infantry trying to down them made him chuckle yet again.

Sir, reports indicate that they are launching aircraft, most likely long range judging from their position.

Zander shrugged off the warning, instructing his officer to engage them with submarine based anti-air missiles and munitions from the VLS tubes on his missile frigates. He ordered a single wing of fighter craft to take to the skies in a defensive formation and wait for further instruction, although he assured his pilots that their services would most likely not be needed.

He then ordered a small detachment of his ships to fan out from the main convoy and prepare to move out after the enemy had been subjected to massed Devil's Finger fire. But at this rate, the long range missiles alone would probably render his enemy combat ineffective well before they would even come into artillery range.

"Well, that didn't work." Random fire wasn't exactly a good idea. But it sometimes worked...sometimes. "Any other ideas?"

"Jamming?"

"Too close. And it gives us away."

"Really?"

"Who knows?"

"Give it a shot. See what happens."

"Activate GPS/Radar/Infrarad/anything you can think of jammers!" The crew tried, perhaps in vain, to jam the missles. The major reached for a telephone.

"Nimitz Carrier Katrina to any other allied ships. Can we get some help here?"

Mere seconds seperated the missiles from impact with their targets. The radar jamming had limited effect, causing a handful of missiles to veer of course and either crash into the waves or continue on until their fuel ran out. But most had already begun their terminal phase, and the Fallen Races would need either a miracle or a tactic that actually worked in order to stop the missiles now.

The high atmospheric missiles were moving at such great speeds that they literally screamed as they plummeted at breakneck speeds. The ships below rapidly grew bigger on the visual systems of the missiles, and Zander chuckled as he watched the final attack run on his monitor. If he blinked at the wrong time he might miss the last second before the ominous snowy screen, so he watched intently without turning his attentions away.

Back out at sea, the missiles that had been skimming the ocean surface had begun erratic maneuvers to further confuse the enemy targeting systems. They too were mere seconds away from impact, and one last pulse from their engines propelled them ever faster as the last few seconds before detonation ticked away.

Meanwhile, Zander had then ordered another volley of long range cruise missiles to strike the untargeted vessels in the Fallen Races convoy. Twice as many should do, and I want them in the air now. I want them to know that we are not fucking around.

With a heavy heart, the major read the general's letter. He asked an ensign to go over to the telegram machine. What he punched wasn't what anyone wanted to hear.

"The Fallen Races naval vessel Katrina to AMF forces. We wish to stand down our arms, and no longer be involved in this conflict as a military force. We will act as a diplomatic party, with people unaffiliated with this conflict as mediators in bi-party peace talks if necessary. Please, suspend your fire..."

The message was never finished.

...

Chancellor Kaito Saruwatari addressed the people gathered out in the main city of Quetza'Thalas.
"Today, the 1st Combined Naval Force was lost, massacred by Automagfreek forces. All ships were lost. There were no survivors."

To: Chancellor Kaito Saruwatari of The Fallen Races
From: AMF High Command

Shortly before your vessels were destroyed by our defenses, we received a transmission from one of your ships discussing their wishes to surrender. We believe that you undoubtedly overheard this transmission, and we are inquiring as to whether or not this message was sanctioned by your government or not.

If so, if you wish to formally surrender to Automagfreek, we will expect your terms in no more than 24 hours. Otherwise we will draw up terms for you, and I guaranty that they will be less than generous.

If you wish to continue the fight, I promise that you will see destruction on a level that you will think is not humanly possible. The choice is yours, a gracious surrender, or a long and painful death.

We await word from your government.

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Marv Bonesplitter
-Department of Defense Chairman-

Secret Telegram to Fallen Races

We will not allow your nation fall to automagfreek, if necessary we will send 2x the number of warships lost in the attack, but remember if you fall, democracy and hope will suffer a drastic blow.

From Terry Ross or Terminus Corporation

===Message from Emproer William to Chancellor Of The Armed Republic Kaito Saruwatari===

We urge you not to surrender Chancellor, for the enermys terms will be harsh. The enermy may be strong but you have still got much to offer oto our side, and much to hurt them. Do you you really want your reputation to be tarneshed by surrendering.

However if you must give in then i suggest you draw up your own terms and quickly, for the enermys terms will be hard upon your people.

Emporer William.

Telegram to Chancellor Of The Armed Republic Kaito Saruwatari
From Emperor Samuel II of Findan

I urge you not to surrendor to AMF. Stay in the fight so the deths of your brave saliors are not in vain as the TG is bieng sent a large fllet is being aaembled bound for Aust and then Ulitmatly AMF.

A small destroyer had been dispatched to the area mere hours after the last ship sank to the bottom. Burning pieces of metal and human bodies were all the floated in the oil stained water, and the damage was carefully documented. The corpses will pulled from the water and eventually shipped back to Automagfreek, and on the eastern shores of the mainland the lifeless bodies were put on display.

The dead lay in a line nearly a quarter mile long, and as the winds blew the stench inland several large supply trucks were brought to the beach. They carried large pikes that stood some 25 feet in length, and soon the age old macabre ritual began. A single pole was inserted into the corpse and anchored into the sands a few feet, and as the hours passed a literal wall of corpses had been erected.

The sailors of The Fallen Races now lay motionless at the top of a pike, their lifeless limbs swaying with the breeze the lured seagulls and ravens to the site. Soon they would begin their feast, but not before images were broadcast worldwide, to the attention of The Fallen Races.

Your dead we claim as our prizes, and here on our shores they will sit until the birds have eaten their fill. I urge you to issue your public surrender to the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek soon, because this is but a sample of the horrors we will unleash upon you.

Search your soul, you know you do not want to sent more of your young lads to my waters to die. Regardless of the false hope your allies seek to fill you with, you know the fight against us to be futile. A generous offer was given onto you to draw up your own surrender terms, which we trust will benefit us at some level.

Unless you want this wall of corpses to double and triple in size, I suggest you move swiftly and issue your surrender. The clock is ticking, and with it our patience.

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Marv Bonesplitter
-Department of Defense Chairman-

Gradually the various media outlets beganflocking to the scene capturing images of the once alive Fallen Races sailors, now nothing more than food for the ravens and gulls. It had been many years since a display of this magnitude had been made, and to some it was an eerie omen of the carnage to come in the long war.

"This is Fox Leader, Fox 1 do you copy?" The comm remained silent for a moment. "Copy that Fox Leader, this is Fox 1; we've reached high altitude, currently at 4,000 feet. Cruising speed alocated."

"Copy that Fox 1," the pilot shifted comm channels. "Fox Group! Attention! We will soon be over AMF land and sooner to enter its air-space. At our altitude, our carrier planes shouldn't be spotted. However, as soon as we reach the red line (AMF-Non AMF Air Space) we will be dropping the Aries companies. I wont no mistakes made. All carriers, sign in!"

"Fox 1 signing in!"
"Fox 2 Signing in!"
"Oh yea! Fox 3 Right baby!"
"Fox 4 knockin' at your door!"
"Fox 5 up and flying!"

"Alright, Fox Group lets get it done!"

"Sir yes Sir!" came the chorused shout.


The 6 Aries carriers reached their cruising speed and made it to 4,000 feet.

(OOC: Before I begin with my air operation, i should make a small note AMF. Because of the nuclear fusion reactor that my mobile suits use, each reactor eminates a small particle, called the Minovsky particle after ther reactor's creator; this particle disables all radar and most radio signals, meaning that you have to spot my Aries mobile suits. Also meaning that any tomahawks or radar guided missile SAM missiles won't work. You either sind out fighters, or you have TOW missiles (onse that are laser guided, but still by line of sight){end})


"Captain Varls, you have the green light, good luck!" said the carrier pilot. Varls sat strapped into his Aries mobile suit, pulling on his last glove. He positioned his goggles and then took a deep breathe. He flipped on his guidance computer, and did a check on his OS. After that his veiwing camera's turned on and Varls was able to see everything within the hold of the Carrier. the 7 other Aries mobile suits were crouched in rows next to Varls's own. He switch to the comm for his company.

"Alright, all units, report in!" he called into it.

"Luna 1 reporting in!"
"Luna 2 reporting in!"
"Luna 3 reporting in!" They continued until all 48 mobile pilots had reported in.

"Luna Leader, all reports confirmed. Alright men, you know the drill. I want you to be careful and watch for enemy fighters. According to Command we shouldn't have any problem with any missiles, but watch for fighters. I know I pushed you all through training, even having Colonel Khines at the Academy drill you," he heard a low grumble of resentment go through the comm; the men had never much cared for the hard-ass instructor, " and I know that we're the best of the best! Remember your breifing as well.

Once we hit 500 feet, we're to head to nearest military base and cause as much damage and pain as possible. And don't forget your readevouze point for the pick up! Got it?"

"Yes sir!"

"Good!" He said into it. The comm opened another channel and the carrier pilots voice came over it.

"We have reached red line Captain, lowering bay doors. Good luck!"

"Thanks Lieutenant, but the Luna Company makes it own luck," Varls said. he closed down the comm then opened the company line once more. "Luna Company! Deploy."

In the light of the early dawn the 6 carriers opened their rear doors. 8 Aries mobile suits 'jumped' out of each of them. They entered free fall for 500 feet, then opened their jet wings and powered their suits up. Varls got them into formation.

"Alright, we are less than a mile from AMF land, we're still at 3,100 feet, so we shoudl encounter anything with all these clouds. However due to the weather report I receieved the clouds break at 900 feet. I want you to watch for fighters at 1,200 feet. Got it? The enemy can't detect us by radar, but if any of you remember what the breifing was, you will know that AMF usually prepares for anything. Even so we should have surprise because we are a small force. Good luck," Varls said, he turned off the comm and the 48 Aries flew into AMF air space, slowly decending from 3,000 feet.


OOC: Like I said in my note, you will have to detect my Aries mobile suits by sight, unless you happen to have your men on red alert and they happen to have their heat sensors focused on the sky, however thats unlikely since you were just attacked twice from the sea, and a small surpise assault from the air should be quite able to enter your country. My main plan for them is just to destroy a base or two. Not that it will hurt you in the long term.

But since you could pick my carriers on radar, but not the launching of my mobile suits, I will allow for you to come up with a more mundane way of "seeing" my mobile suits. Because they are 'gliding' so to speak inwards from 3,000 feet. Meaning any shore defenses or border based defenses will not be of much use. So I will hope your mid-country defenses are as adequate.

Private First Class Jamie Stills, one of the many paratroopers of the Aequatian 1st Airborne Division sent to Automagfreek during the threat of invasion by Praetonia, was standing on the beach with the rest of his platoon which had been moving through the area to St. Freeksburg when the workers had begun to set the Fallen Races's sailors upon the pikes, "My god, I never thought it would be like this!" said one of the young privates.

"It's so horrific, I can't even imagine what we'd do if those were our boys up there," said another.

"It's brutal, but that's how they fight," explained Sergeant Black, "We used to be the same, remember the accounts of our Marines burning down rebel hospitals and civilian homes during the first Automagfreek Civil War?"

"Yes, but nobody is proud of that part of our history. And we don't fight like that anymore." replied Lieutenant Glendale, "Now, get back in the Humvees, we're moving out!"

The group of Aequatians slung rifles over their shoulders and picked up machineguns that had been set down on the sand before turning and walking back up to their vehicles to continue on to their position at St. Freeksburg.

The 6th Fleet consisted of 2 Zheng He (Quest) Class Fleet Carriers, 6 Sun Zhongshan Class Battleships, 4 Li Hongzhang Class Guided Missile Destroyers
9 Lin Zexu Class ASW Destroyer. Currently the ships where at anchor around 100 naudical miles away from AMF's terratorial waters, Waiting to cover the Thrashian retreat.


OOC: Short crap post, just giving you an idea of my forces in the area. Will post more later. Ie: When it isn't 9 PM and Im not homeworking.

OOC:This just a list of my deployments of naval forces. All the ships are nuclear powered unless stated otherwise.


Fleets deployed: 1st, 2nd, 9th, 10th

(20) Admiral Mahoney (Nimitz) class Air craft Carriers

Admiral Mahoney
King David IV
Emperor Mathiew III
Lewson
Falstaff
King Jackson
King Lewis II
King Harold
King Erik IV
King Ronald V
King Henry X
De Hessington
Du Pont
Hiroguchi
Daviston
King William XII
King Phillip V
Queen Anna VI
King Quinn II

10 Iromhammer class (Arizona) Battleships

Ironhammer
Dreadnaught
Audacious
Fearless
Warhammer
Ironfist
Ironside
Implacable
Wardragon
Intersepter

15 Hennesy (Arlieh Burgh) class destroyers

Hennesy
Hood
Ross
Macomber
Wilmoore
Anderson
Durando
Ramirez
Clark
Zimmer
Wilson
St.Cyr
Garfield
Martnez

7 Ares (Wahtever the American missile frigate class is I don't rember) class Missile Firgates


Ares
Zues
Hermes
Apollo
Poisiden
Aphrodite
Athena


10 Highlands (Ticoneroda) class crusiers

Highlands
Rufield Point
Cape of Croon
Pennsula
Actium
Nieburg
Crieghton
El Hiasaway
Canton Bay
Boulan Bay

OOC: More to come later includign an rp.

OOC: Before I begin with my air operation, i should make a small note AMF. Because of the nuclear fusion reactor that my mobile suits use, each reactor eminates a small particle, called the Minovsky particle after ther reactor's creator; this particle disables all radar and most radio signals, meaning that you have to spot my Aries mobile suits.

OOC: Pray tell me how this particle can reflect and or absorb radar waves. So far I don't buy it.

But whatever, there are other ways to detect inbound aircraft/spacecraft/whatever besides radar.

Message to AMF Leadership from Chancellor Saruwatari.

The message in question was not a surrender to your forces. It was a request for a cease-fire, as our nation refuses to fight such a powerful enemy. We did not know what we were getting into, but we see now how such a nation of your power is. We will withdraw from this conflict, and wish to establish status quo ante bellum.

-Kaito Saruwatari, Chancellor of The Armed Republic

To: Chancellor Saruwatari
From: AMF High Command

Surrender Mr. Saruwatari, is the only option for you at this point. I'm afraid that in order at achieve true closure we need a formal declaration of surrender. Too many nations have turned around and screwed us in the past, and we will not make the same mistakes again. I do not believe our request was out of the question, especially considering that we will allow you to draw up your own terms.

The choice is yours, but time has almost run out. If you know anything about Automagfreek history you will know that we are indeed being gracious. Do not throw away this once in a lifetime opportunity to spare your nation more suffering.


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Marv Bonesplitter
-Department of Defense Chairman-

To: AMF High Command
From: Chancellor Saruwatari

I'm afraid what caused this whole idea of surrendering was the fact that our flagship was destroyed in our massacre before we could finish the transmission. Our only hope, it seems, is to come to a cease-fire agreement. I apologize, but our nation finds treaties of surrender to be incredibly one-sided, and usually oppresive.

-Message Sent

<Encrypted Message>
To: All nations on Findan's side
From: Chancellor Saruwatari

This looks like endgame. We could use a lot of help right now for homeland defense, and a possible repelling. All we need is some military and logistics support.

-Communique Sent.

To: Chancellor Saruwatari
From: AMF High Command

Chancellor, you seem quite....impaired.

This is why we offered to have you issue forth your own surrender terms. Sort of hard to screw yourself over when you are writing the terms....

Automagfreek will accept nothing less than a public declaration of surrender. For the last time I urge you to take us up on this offer, because we are a nation that never forgets. Sure, you may slink away into the night and save your skins, but it will be short lived. One day after our other foes have been crushed you will look behind you and see the Sentinels decending upon you, and your time on this planet will end.

Automagfreek will not come to any cease-fire accord and will accept only a formal declaration of surrender. You make the terms, and if they are reasonable enough we will agree to them, and you will officially be off our shit list....unless of course you anger us once more.

Or you can choose to save face and retreat, but know that if you do so we will be coming for you. Your choice.

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Marv Bonesplitter
-Department of Defense Chairman-

The Thrashian units continued their downward decent, mere minutes away from breaking the dense clouds that coated the Automagfreek sky like a thick soup. Unfortunately for the Thrashians, infrared, long-wave radar, and LADAR sensors had been tracking the inbound wings for several minutes, and ground crews had been alerted to their positions.

The Freeks waited until the Thrashian units were congested and just about to break through the clouds, though they had managed to make it several miles inland they were now literally surrounded by anti-air emplacements. Few aircraft had been scrambled in order to let the enemy grow comfortable, but as the enemy moved closer to Fort Brigg, one of AMF's largest military installations, several naval and air force fighter wings immediately took to the skies.

No more than a split second later the ground crews opened fire with a barrage of SmartFlak (AI controlled flak cannons with high explosive munitions) and other AAA, in conjuction with IR and LADAR guided surface to air missiles. It was as if the flood gates of Hell had been opened, and the skies all around the Thrashians were filled with black clouds as hundreds of flak rounds exploded per second. The sounds of exploding flak and the thundering of the cannons below seemed to drown out all other noise, save for the hissing of inbound surface to air missiles and other assorted explosions in the skies above. It was as if a hornet's nest had been stirred up.

The AAA operators made sure plenty of ammunition was fed into their guns that belched forth explosive death onto the enemy, and within minutes word was sent to the various installations that F-22 Raptors and assorted naval fighters would be joining the in aerial melee, and to cease SmartFlak fire upon their arrival. The SAM's however would continue to flow like wine with the assistance of long-wave radar and LADAR, something the Thrashians obviously did not count on.

Anticipating a possible retreat, Zander made sure that the movements of the Thrashian units were carefully monitored and that appropriate fighters and or ground defenses were allocated to all possible escape routes. Once more the heathens of th world would see that a breach of Automagfreek's air defenses could not be achieved without ungodly losses, a reputation that existed long before the fearsome Sentinels came into existance.

The F-22's were some of the most advanced fighter planes in Automagfreek's arsenal, and they would be well up to the task of driving off the would be invaders thanks to their stealthy profile and leathal weapons. The wings that were dispatched quickly swarmed the area as the skies continued to be nearly blacked out by the massive fog of flak that came forth from the guns below. The pilots armed their AMRAAM and Sidewinder missiles as well as their 30mm depleted uranium cannons in case the fighting got in close.

Their formation was tight, but gradually it loosened as they closed in on the Thrashian units. Though they had never seen craft as strange as these, they were confident that their high tech weapons and age old dogfighting tactics could repell the enemy with minimal losses.

To: Chancellor Saruwatari
From: AMF High Command

Chancellor, you seem quite....impaired.

This is why we offered to have you issue forth your own surrender terms. Sort of hard to screw yourself over when you are writing the terms....

Automagfreek will accept nothing less than a public declaration of surrender. For the last time I urge you to take us up on this offer, because we are a nation that never forgets. Sure, you may slink away into the night and save your skins, but it will be short lived. One day after our other foes have been crushed you will look behind you and see the Sentinels decending upon you, and your time on this planet will end.

Automagfreek will not come to any cease-fire accord and will accept only a formal declaration of surrender. You make the terms, and if they are reasonable enough we will agree to them, and you will officially be off our shit list....unless of course you anger us once more.

Or you can choose to save face and retreat, but know that if you do so we will be coming for you. Your choice.

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Marv Bonesplitter
-Department of Defense Chairman-

Let's try this again:

*Terms of Surrender*

1. All TFR Forces will withdraw from combat zones.
2. TFR forces may no longer enter AMF territory without AMF permission.
3. TFR will provide economic support in the form of trade with AMF.
4. AMF will not take TFR as a colony, however, TFR may not have any military units within any craft used by merchants or other forms of trade.
5. TFR and AMF will consider hostilities as ended between the parties.
6. If either side should break this surrender agreement, the side which broke it shall have a economic embargo placed on them.

HOWEVER,

1. All TFR asks of AMF is to help TFR bring it's defenses up to par for its size.

Signed by Kaito Saruwatari, Chancellor of the Armed Republic.

Holy shit, these are actually some decent terms....

Minister Hartman read over the document with great interest as Bonesplitter walked in the room. The two talked over the contents of the surrender terms, and after a mere half hour of deliberation the two had agreed to go public.

The press room at the Great Hall filled within minutes, and reporters chattered until the two men entered the room. Their presence commanded respect, and those in the room were quick to silence themselves almost entirely in unison. Shutters of the various still cameras continued to click away while television cameras captured every movement at the podium.

Hartman adjusted his hat and scanned the room carefully before setting down a black binder that he had been carrying, opening it slowly and at his own pace. Bonesplitter towered over the older Hartman, but made sure not to steal the spotlight for this press conference.

Ladies and gentlemen of the world, citizens of Automagfreek.

We have received the surrender terms of The Armed Republic of The Fallen Races. After reviewing these terms we have concluded that they are to Lord Dreadfire's liking. The terms of this formal surrender are as follows:

*Terms of Surrender*

1. All TFR Forces will withdraw from combat zones.
2. TFR forces may no longer enter AMF territory without AMF permission.
3. TFR will provide economic support in the form of trade with AMF.
4. AMF will not take TFR as a colony, however, TFR may not have any military units within any craft used by merchants or other forms of trade.
5. TFR and AMF will consider hostilities both direct and indirect as ended between the parties.
6. If either side should break this surrender agreement, the side which broke it shall have a economic embargo placed on them.

HOWEVER,

1. All TFR asks of AMF is to help TFR bring it's defenses up to par for its size.

We added in a tiny rewording in order to make sure that no potential loopholes are exploited.

Therefore having received acceptable terms from Chancellor Saruwatari, Lord Damien Dreadfire hereby accepts the surrender of The Armed Republic of The Fallen Races to The Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek. The terms of this surrender are now in effect. We urge all other nations warring against our indomitable Empire to follow suit, and end the bloodshed that they created.

Thank you.

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Minister Hartman
-Minister of Foreign Affairs-

Hartman and Bonesplitter left the podium immediately without answering the numerous questions from the press. Though the public was blind to the details, it was now common knowledge that TFR's role in this war was now finished.

It also cast a dark omen over the rest of the conflict, for the Empire was now beginning to build momentum.

OOC: Pray tell me how this particle can reflect and or absorb radar waves. So far I don't buy it.

But whatever, there are other ways to detect inbound aircraft/spacecraft/whatever besides radar.

OOC: If you would read my military's page you would know how. Obviously you have neglected to know your enemy. And long-wave radar is also out of the question, however I'll let that slide.

IC:


"HOLY MOTHER!" were some of the nicer words coming through the comms as the Aries company broke the cloud line.

"Luna group, spread it out, evasive action!" Yelled Varls into the comm. The 48 suits sped into different directions, missiles from SAM sites were spitting up from everywhere. "Damn capt, but command didn't mention they had all these little toys," commented Varls XO.

"Shut up Reilly! Launch counter measures!" several of the suits let loose their shoulder mounted missile spods, and dozens of missiles colided and destroyed the oncoming SAM missiles.

"Captain I can't shake it!" Varls turned his attention to his 6'o clock. An aries was 'running' from two SAM missiles that had locked on to him.

"Move soldier! You know an Aries is manuverable! What happened to your counter measures?"

"Spent them already sir. SHIT!" One missile took the Aries square in the back, it floundered then headed to the ground.

"Dammit!" said Varls. He was momentarily shifted in his seat as flak shell exploded near his Aries.

"Sir, we have incoming enemy fighters from the east, west, and south. I estimate something akin to 4 flight groups. ETA 5 minutes."

"Alright, get up into that soup to evade the falk and use your chain rifles on automatic to get rid of those missiles if you get the chance. Other than that keep moving!" Another Aries blew as another AMF SAM missiles took it in the side.

Manuvering as quickly as possible Varls had tyhe company move more inland. At the same time he sent a message to Thrashian command. "Can't get out of this one. Luna Company has officially been caught in the honey jar Colonel Weimar. I request that you send whatever rescruers back home." He logged off the comm and brought up his detection schematics on the enemy fighters.

"I see 40 fighters coming at us. I want 1st platoon to shake west, Alpha-formation. 2nd comes with me and we shake strait up into the sky, into the soup and then right onto their asses!"

"Yes sir!"


40 or more enemy fighters sped up from the south, they spotted the Thrashian mobile suits, then were puzzled as they broke off into two groups. "1st Wing, take the left group. 2nd watch for the other group and watch out for the soup."


The 1st platoon increased their speed as Lieutenant Reilly led them in a shifting patern. A group of the enemy fighters came at them. "Alright, open fire!" A massive barrage of chain rifle fire came as the Aries suits headed strait for the fighters. Being more manuverable in combat, able to take impressive turns and flips than a standard fighter, they quickly dogged or countered enemy missiles that the fighters sent after them.

"Reilly! I got hit by one of them damn missiles. My left booster is down."

"Then bail out! And hit the overload switch on your suit."

"Yes sir. Reilly watched as the pilot opened up his suits hatch and dive out. His suit free fell to the earth. Right above the ground it's reactors blew. A minature mushroom appeared.

Reilly's suits passed the gorup of fighters. They came about trying to get another strafe run on the Thrashian's. "Chain rifles, open fire." Another barrage swept over the fighter group. The two groups kept at it for some time, passing each other, countering and firing missiles, turning about, Reilly sending barrage after barrage of chain rifle fire into the fighters.


The other group of fighter followed the trail of the disapeared mobile suits of Varls. The fighters hit the top of the clouds and came out of the clouds. And found themselves faced with 23 Aries suits in a semi-circle all around them.

"Fire," yelled Varls. His men launched the last of their missiles and emptied several clips of chain rifle rounds into the appearing AMF fighters. The few that made it out manuvered and retreated once again into the clouds.

"Alright, we caught 'em with their pants down their boys, but they won't make the same mistake twice. This time they will send one fighter to distract and enter at different points. I want you all to spread out, and rip them a new one. Just stay alive and destroy any fighters you come accross."

"Yes sir."


OOC: I expect you to post your own losses, which should be considerable at this point.

Thrashian Losses
6 Aries mobile suits
2 with minor damage

Forces Left
42 Aries
no missiles, plenty of chain rounds.

OOC: If you would read my military's page you would know how. Obviously you have neglected to know your enemy. And long-wave radar is also out of the question, however I'll let that slide.

OOC: LOL. How do I 'need to know my enemy'? If it flies it dies, and even your spacedy suits are subject to punishment.

And even if long-wave radar doesn't work, that still doesn't excuse the fact that you are on my LADAR scopes (which I posted).....



OOC: I expect you to post your own losses, which should be considerable at this point.

Thrashian Losses
6 Aries mobile suits
2 with minor damage

Forces Left
42 Aries
no missiles, plenty of chain rounds.

OOC: Soo...you expect me to take considerable losses when you stepped into a shitstorm? You haven't really done much save for shooting down my missiels and engaging fighters that I haven't RP'd arriving yet.

Reilly's suits passed the gorup of fighters. They came about trying to get another strafe run on the Thrashian's.

The other group of fighter followed the trail of the disapeared mobile suits of Varls. The fighters hit the top of the clouds and came out of the clouds. And found themselves faced with 23 Aries suits in a semi-circle all around them.

This is what we call a godmod, RPing the movements of my units without my permission. You've taken it upon yourself to determine where my planes are going and what they are engaging, which in free form RP you can't do.

OOC: You took it upon yourself to determine when my suits came out of the clouds in the first time, and even posted that they were in a clumped formation; I have this faint idea that its me who is suppose to decide that. I might have wanted them in another place, or might even have kept them there in the clouds for cover. You know? So don't start painting 'Godmod' slogans, alright? If anything we both rp'd the movements of each others units. You said that you were sending fighters, so I rp'd my men seeing them, and started engaging. I know very well that my suits are not uber-super space toys that can't be destroyed. I know very well they can be. Thats why I didn't just go "Oops, my armor saved me."

If it bothers you that your AA defenses can be countered and that I fairly rp'd my losses accordingly thus far, then I will just remove my posts and say it never happened. That fine with you?

Or is it that ever since you got past 3 billion population you decided you can't ever lose a battle, even a small skirmish? I find you have many problems in your rp'ing of 'fairness'.

OOC: The way I see it Thrashia, you have been the one who's been unreasonable about this whole series of skirmishes, not AMF. You're the one who tried to dictate to him the extent of damage he should take. You're the one who popped in with space suits even though AMF by all rights could easily have ignored it for being future tech. And "undetectable by any forms of sensor system"? That's a Godmode, plain and simple.

If you had worked WITH AMF OOCly rather than try to elbow your way into the RP, you *might* have been accomodated. But I know I for one am not willing to collaborate with someone who's been showing as poor an attitude as you've been displaying.

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OOC: The way I see it Thrashia, you have been the one who's been unreasonable about this whole series of skirmishes, not AMF. You're the one who tried to dictate to him the extent of damage he should take. You're the one who popped in with space suits even though AMF by all rights could easily have ignored it for being future tech. And "undetectable by any forms of sensor system"? That's a Godmode, plain and simple.

If you had worked WITH AMF OOCly rather than try to elbow your way into the RP, you *might* have been accomodated. But I know I for one am not willing to collaborate with someone who's been showing as poor an attitude as you've been displaying.

1) It is plain rp Etiquette to post ones losses when in conflict. I was mearly wishing for AMF to do the same as I did, I apoligize if it seemed I was being forceful.

2) My mobile suits are not FT, they are PMT, I've lost count of how many times I have had to say this. They use machine-guns and other 'mundane' equipment whereas if they were FT then they would be using beam weaponry. And they are perfectly suseceptible to MT weaponry such as missiles, and even tanks and artillery; albiet a lot more is needed from the tanks and artillery. Also early on I stated and asked AMF if it was ok for me to use my mobile suits, I explained to him that he should read my military page and understand what pros and cons there are for me using them. He obviously never took the curdicy to look, even after I looked and exstensively studied his own military, in all respect its accomplishments.

3) I did not say they were undetectable from all means, I mearly said by all forms of radar, radio signals. I said in the note I made that heat sensors or anything else he happens to come up with are perfectly fine to come up with.

4) Findan declared war on AMF, my ally whom members of my nations royal family belong (Aust) took Findan's side and declared unpon AMF. AMF in his turn declared upon Aust. I would not be an ally if I let those whom are my allies are under attack and all I do is sit on my hands. Its a reason why alliances exist, to help one another. So I did not "elbow" my way into the rp.

5) I formally apoligize for seeming unfair or an ass in this affair.


Also, concerning my suits engaging:

Their formation was tight, but gradually it loosened as they closed in on the Thrashian units. Though they had never seen craft as strange as these, they were confident that their high tech weapons and age old dogfighting tactics could repell the enemy with minimal losses.

To me, this means that I had the turn to start the engagement. And most grond fire would stop so as not to endanger any of your own aircraft. So I don't see why you are complaining about the dogfight.

OOC: You took it upon yourself to determine when my suits came out of the clouds in the first time, and even posted that they were in a clumped formation;

OOC: If you want to start the childish finger pointing, then you've picked the wrong person. But I suppose you forgot that in one of your previous posts you yourself mentioned that your suits were in formation.

In the light of the early dawn the 6 carriers opened their rear doors. 8 Aries mobile suits 'jumped' out of each of them. They entered free fall for 500 feet, then opened their jet wings and powered their suits up. Varls got them into formation.

Emphasis mine. My LADAR would have seen this, and my defenses adjusted accordingly. Whereas I said:

The Freeks waited until the Thrashian units were congested

Again, emphasis mine. Never once did I say that your units were in a 'clumped formation', merely congested. 'Congested' as in all your units are present and moving in formation in a single direction, not neccessarily dictating a specific formation.

And as far as 'stating when they came through the clouds', you yourself said:

Once we hit 500 feet, we're to head to nearest military base and cause as much damage and pain as possible. And don't forget your readevouze point for the pick up! Got it?"

Alright, we are less than a mile from AMF land, we're still at 3,100 feet

Since I don't have any beach-side military bases, you would have to travel several miles inland to reach one. Given your current heading and your assumption that you were undetectable, is it really that out of the question that my forces would have allowed you to slip a mile or so inland? If so then by all means let's revert to RPing every since square inch or territory we both cross as to avoid this in the future.

Granted this is dialogue,but you forget that the whole time you were on my LADAR scopes, therefore your movements were being watched.

I have this faint idea that its me who is suppose to decide that. I might have wanted them in another place, or might even have kept them there in the clouds for cover. You know? So don't start painting 'Godmod' slogans, alright? If anything we both rp'd the movements of each others units. You said that you were sending fighters, so I rp'd my men seeing them, and started engaging.

Not only did you take it upon yourself to engage my fighters, you also RP'd my fighters breaking off into seperate groups and trailing your suits. You did a lot more than just RP a subtle movement like I did, you basically wrote the whole damn dogfight.

I know very well that my suits are not uber-super space toys that can't be destroyed. I know very well they can be. Thats why I didn't just go "Oops, my armor saved me."

If it bothers you that your AA defenses can be countered and that I fairly rp'd my losses accordingly thus far, then I will just remove my posts and say it never happened. That fine with you?

I've talked with certain people who are familiar with Gundams, and they say that your losses were far from fair. Ask any '03 nation who remembers me and they will tell you that my anti-air nets are some of THE best in the NationStates world (for those that remember SkyNet...). 50 of these suits waltzing into this defense are not likely to last very long, and 6 destroyed with 2 damaged is a slap in the face.

You didn't counter my AA defenses, you laughed them off as if they were nothing.

Or is it that ever since you got past 3 billion population you decided you can't ever lose a battle, even a small skirmish? I find you have many problems in your rp'ing of 'fairness'.

This coming from someone with less than 1,000 posts? I don't think I need a lecture on RP and fairness, I was more than fair to even allow you in this RP. I don't care who you are allied to, I do NOT RP with future tech. And regardless of what you say, Gundams are future tech. I doubt we will have anything in the next 50 years that can do what your suits can, nevermind they traveled through freakin' outer space.

And as far as me not losing battles goes, HA! I do lose battles, but very seldom because I know how to work my defenses. If these spacedy suits of yours were fighter planes, you can bet your ass they'd have been reduced to ash already.

To me, this means that I had the turn to start the engagement. And most grond fire would stop so as not to endanger any of your own aircraft. So I don't see why you are complaining about the dogfight.

You're assuming my ground fire would cease, and that is incorrect. My ground crew would work in conjunction with the fighters to down your suits. My biggest problem though is this:


"I see 40 fighters coming at us. I want 1st platoon to shake west, Alpha-formation. 2nd comes with me and we shake strait up into the sky, into the soup and then right onto their asses!"

How the hell do you know how many fighters I sent up? I did not directly state how many I had sent up at this point.


40 or more enemy fighters sped up from the south

Interesting....show me where I ordered this.....

they quickly dogged or countered enemy missiles that the fighters sent after them.

Wow, I thought my fighters were still taking to the skies. Didn't know they were already shooting missiles....

Reilly's suits passed the gorup of fighters. They came about trying to get another strafe run on the Thrashian's.

See my response above.

The other group of fighter followed the trail of the disapeared mobile suits of Varls. The fighters hit the top of the clouds and came out of the clouds. And found themselves faced with 23 Aries suits in a semi-circle all around them.

See what I'm saying? You RP'd the whole damn dogfight! If this is not a blatant godmod, I don't know what is.

And what is the worst I did? Assume that your suits would continue on their present course? How is that a godmod? I don't think any part of my post even pales in comparison to your as far as unfairness goes.

OOC:

1) It is plain rp Etiquette to post ones losses when in conflict.I've been RPing in this game for over a year and a half. I believe I'm well aware of RP etiquette and standard NS conventions by now.

2) My mobile suits are not FT, they are PMT, I've lost count of how many times I have had to say this.If you think those suits are PMT, then obviously you and I have a very different idea of what constitutes PMT.

4) Findan declared war on AMF, my ally whom members of my nations royal family belong (Aust) took Findan's side and declared unpon AMF. AMF in his turn declared upon Aust. I would not be an ally if I let those whom are my allies are under attack and all I do is sit on my hands. Its a reason why alliances exist, to help one another. So I did not "elbow" my way into the rp.You are getting pretty close to being ignored. If someone goes to war with one of your allies and that player ignores you, you can't get involved. If it's a closed RP between that ally and another country, you can't get involved. NationStates RP is not real life. If you want real life, it's right outside your door.

OOC: I believe that your on FLAME mode at this time, because I'm more than a little PO'd at this point.

1) Just because I mentioned my suits moving into a formation when they first dropped does not mean that I kept the same formation.

2) I will state for the 3rd time, that I know very well that you can detect my suits with other means than radar. My men have entered your air space under the assumption that your sensors would operate under only radar toward the skies. (This a mistake by them)

3) The dogfight is hardly over, I mearly wrote out the opening moves. And I said in a previous post that I apoligize for assuming command over your forces. I also just would like to know how many fighters your sending after me? I made a guess on it from what you had posted earlier, saying that several groups or 'wings' had made lift off, then you mentioned them seeing my suits. So like I said earlier, its perfectly fair for me to begin the dogfight, even if I did take it too far.

4) Whoever your source on Gundams is, they are basing it on what an Aries faces when set against a Gundam. A gundam is a real godmod weapon since its near indestrctible. That is why I use the Aries and other 'regular' type mobile suits. They are quite capable to taking large amounts of small arms fire , bullets, but are of course able to be taken down by missiles.

4a) because of the fact that you leave so much space to interpretation, I dont have a fucking clue as to how dense, or how powerful, or how exstensive your AA defense network is. Unless you give me concrete statistics and boundries then I cannot successfully rp my military correctly to try finding either weak points or other devices to counter you.

5) The reason I have such few posts is not because of my lack of rp'ing but for the fact that I choose rps that are worth my time to respond to. I have been playing rpgs since I was 11, I am currently 23. So you can go jump in a river for all I care. So do not presume to think that because you happened to find the NS website before me makes you a better rp'er. In fact you stating such makes me depressed to think that rp'ing skill is based upon a web-based game. Thats just sick in my opinion. (What ever happened to good ole D&D? huh? or CoC? or SAS? or Warhammer? or Clans? or any other of the good old rpgs)

6) My largest problem with you is that you leave everything open-ended with no way for me to rp correctly since I have to do guess-work to decide what I am against. If you said you had 400 fighters comign after me, ok, then I know what I am up against. If you said somethign clsoe to 200 SAM sites were firing at me, then I know what I am up against. Your lack of doing so leaves me to interpret from your inept decisiveness to give hard-concrete defense stats.

7) Your forces could indeed let my own inside for a short distance, I never said otherwise. I mearly am angry with the fact that in the begginning you brought my men out of the clouds in a formation that would not be the same as whem they orignally launched. They are some of the best trained mobile suit pilots, meaning they wouldn't make an idiotic mistake of clumping when exiting clouds. I don't think we have to go over inch by inch, thats just a bit too much in my opinion. Really what would solve it would be if you were a bit more clear on your defenses capabilities.

OOC:Please lets move all OOC chatter to the OOC Thread. I'll create it in just a sec.

OOC:

I've been RPing in this game for over a year and a half. I believe I'm well aware of RP etiquette and standard NS conventions by now.

If you think those suits are PMT, then obviously you and I have a very different idea of what constitutes PMT.

You are getting pretty close to being ignored. If someone goes to war with one of your allies and that player ignores you, you can't get involved. If it's a closed RP between that ally and another country, you can't get involved. NationStates RP is not real life. If you want real life, it's right outside your door.

1)Might take a look on the date at when I joined NS, k? If you know the etiquette, then why are you challenging me on it when I simply ask AMF to do the same?

2) My nation exists in the year 2190-2200, I consider that PMT when set up against most FT nations who use tech thats from SW or ST which is several thousand years in the future.

3)Thing is...he didn't ignore me. Thus I am involved.

My fleet info contd.

10 Wellington (Ohio) class balliti missle submarines

Wellington
Mahoney
Crossin
Croon
Canton
Salmonica
Granton
Vandaland
Percival
Somego
Astaton

8 Herford (Los Angeles) class attack subs

Herford
Hammersford
Stanly
Rudofer
Mekleton
Norlan
Norrington


Plus unamed ships

12 patrol boats
4 tankers
32 troop ships
3 hospital ships.

OoC: People, people, for god sakes, do we need an OoC thread for this?

If we could please stop screwing around and get some final answers on whats allowed and whats not?

As for Trashia, MT is everything you can't develop now because there isn't enough funding or within 5-15 years. So if I'm giving you a trillion dollars in cash, will you have what you described here as a production model?

And for AMF, well, most of what he uses is MT, just pour enough funding in it, hell you could even make anti-matter bombs given 15 years and enough funding.

OOC: There already is one. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=446598

The defences was still mustering, poster appeared everywhere, on building all over Aust, giving the people a simle message The emporer wants you, huge, huge amounts of men where joining up, even the navy had a influx of recruits.

Austian factorys poured out planes, hundreds upon hundreds of Hounds, and other where curning out guns, ammo, artilliary. everything that was needed.

The Bambinio Strip had become a hell hole, every street a line of trenches, everhouse a fotrtification, every peice of free land an airfeild.

And in Findan more Austian forcces arrived and dug in, around 50 legions where in the country and 10 air wings, a huge force.

Aust Bound 150 nm form Aust

For well over a week the Grand Imperial Findanian Fleet had been at sea it had alomst reached its first destination , Aust where it would resupply and contiue on to AMF. It was one of the largest fleets assembled since Jutland.

Phillp S. Harris Air Force Base, Granton, Findan

20 B-52 of the 6th Bomb Squadren of the Imperial Findanian Airforce took off bound for AMF. They were carrying JDAM's HARM's, LGB's and Daisy Cutter Bombs. All the pilots had cigars they flew of into the setting sun like the cowboys of the old.

On board the FIN Swordfish 120 nm from AMF

The order came in

To: FIN Swordfish
From:COMSUB
Fire the remaining tomahwaks at the nearest AMF port After that leave. head towards Aust. as always Run Silent Run deep
Hendricks ADM COMSUB

The Captain said "Fire at will target to nearest AMF port"
"Aye,aye" said the Misslemen "Fire at will, repeat fire at will."


The tomahwaks fired. Now the Captain did as he was ordered left and Ran silent Ran deep, the mtto of the Submariners corps of the Imperial Findanian Navy.

Bump!

Aust City, Aust

The B-52's of the IFAF (Imperial Findanian Air Force) landed at the Aust City airport to refuel and continue onward toards their targets in AMF. Also the crew shifted. As they took off Colonel Mark Macdownell told Major Alston to wake him when they were within the 200 nuatical mile mark.


The Imperial Palace, Granton, Findan

Emperor Samuel II began to speak to his wife, "Heather, i'm think of sending the kids to Terila, to stay with Anne and my brother-in-law Mathew of Falastur. Since the Falasturians are nuetral, If the worse should happen too us, the Empire will have an hier. Though I do think our postiton here is very good though, not the least beacause of all the Legions your cousin sent us. Though I am concerned about The Fallen Races, that enire fleet gone, hopefully the Grand Fleet will not face a similar fate. I've been pondering what would the world be like now if Palpatine and William's parents still ruled Aust and my great-grandfather still ruled here. Would we be at war now or would we be at peace? Alas, we can't really worry about whatifs we have thew real word to attend to."

Bump!

In the occult temple of Tan Laurelos, Gyrobot

Members of a spirit cult were busy at work that day, when word got out that the Fallen Race's sailors were disgracefully placed on stakes as an example, they found the perfect time to use their magic, the spiritualists got to work, chanting and offering goods to order the spirits to haunt every mind of the automagfreekan empire. The spirits will not rest until every man, women and child and genocidal soldier of AMF were haunted. The only way for them to rest peacefully was if the bodies return to their native land and buried properly....

In the occult temple of Tan Laurelos, Gyrobot

Members of a spirit cult were busy at work that day, when word got out that the Fallen Race's sailors were disgracefully placed on stakes as an example, they found the perfect time to use their magic, the spiritualists got to work, chanting and offering goods to order the spirits to haunt every mind of the automagfreekan empire. The spirits will not rest until every man, women and child and genocidal soldier of AMF were haunted. The only way for them to rest peacefully was if the bodies return to their native land and buried properly....


OOC: Give me a break. :rolleyes:

I have already stated that I do not wish to RP with you, so please go away already. Consider this my last response to you.

In the occult temple of Tan Laurelos, Gyrobot

Members of a spirit cult were busy at work that day, when word got out that the Fallen Race's sailors were disgracefully placed on stakes as an example, they found the perfect time to use their magic, the spiritualists got to work, chanting and offering goods to order the spirits to haunt every mind of the automagfreekan empire. The spirits will not rest until every man, women and child and genocidal soldier of AMF were haunted. The only way for them to rest peacefully was if the bodies return to their native land and buried properly....
OOC: F*** off Gyrobot, I have also stated I won't Rp with you before. Go away.

IC: Heather nodded at Samuel as he spoke, "Indeed, however they are dead and we are alive, adn we must do what we can. Are you sure Falsur is safe? If Damien defeats us then whats to say that he won't move to attack our children, and if there plane was captured in flight, he could hold them to ransom."

The Imperial Palace, Granton, Findan

Samuel said to his wife "They would be safer there I'll send squadrens of jets to escort them or perhaps I'll ask Mathew to send us a ship and they will sail there, I'm sure Daimen would avoid entering war with Falastur while he is at war with Hogsweat, Aust and Findan."

150 Nautical miles from AMF

The B-52's were almost there,this was the nailibitting part although they were at a very high altitude there was still a threat from AMF SAM's. The bomber flew on towards their target, the nearst large AMF port.

The Imperial Palace, Granton, Findan
Hogsweat, Aust and Findan."


What about Praetonia and Sarzonia as well? I'm sure they are...minor forces :rolleyes: I'd expected that the other people attacking AMF would have actually *read* the Closed RP War Thread. Obviously not..

OOC: F*** off Gyrobot, I have also stated I won't Rp with you before. Go away.

IC: Heather nodded at Samuel as he spoke, "Indeed, however they are dead and we are alive, adn we must do what we can. Are you sure Falsur is safe? If Damien defeats us then whats to say that he won't move to attack our children, and if there plane was captured in flight, he could hold them to ransom."

So you are blacklisting me? Fine, I dont need you, you dont even give me any response when I start an RP!

What about Praetonia and Sarzonia as well? I'm sure they are...minor forces :rolleyes: I'd expected that the other people attacking AMF would have actually *read* the Closed RP War Thread. Obviously not..
OOC: Actually I've read your thread, as you know, if findan hasn't, well he dosn't have to.

Gyrobot-YES I AM.

Sir, radar scopes are picking up a large number of enemy planes. They appear to be heavy craft, most likely bombers due to their size. The report was music to Zander's ears, and within seconds he had ordered two wings of carrier based fighters to intercept the enemy planes. The Freek jets screamed off the decks of the carriers Nemesis and Indomitable with great speed, taking the the skies in a rough but organized formation.

Another reserve wing was brought online not more than five minutes later, and Freek missile batteries were put on high alert in case for some reason the fighters were not able to down all the bombers in time. However, due to the size of the planes, it was unlikely that they would be able to run for very long.

The carrier based F-14's continued on into the windy heavens, the gap between the two forces closing quickly. AMRAAM missles were brought online as their radar systems continued to scan the skies, ready to fire the second they had a lock on. As the distance to their targets continued to diminish, nearly a third of the aircraft broke off from the main wing and took up flanking positions on either side, and at varrying altitudes.

Zander had complete confidence in his pilots and even more confidence in the ineptia of his foes. The B-52's would most likely never see the AMF mainland on the horizon, for without fighter support the bombers would be easy pickings for the Freek pilots.

Scorpion 1 to Red Leader, come in red leader. ETA to enemy craft: momentarily....

What about Praetonia and Sarzonia as well? I'm sure they are...minor forces :rolleyes: I'd expected that the other people attacking AMF would have actually *read* the Closed RP War Thread. Obviously not..
OOC:Err I though they had treaties that was my understanding, if I wass wrogn.. thta good news anyway lets keep this in the OOC forum. BTW The B-52's are at a high altuide The maximum hieght in fact, I'm unsure what that is though.

100 nm form AMF

One of the Radarman on board the lead B-52 said "S*it sir we are lit up like a Christmas Tree." The major who was flying the plane said "Evasive action right away swereve." The planes start to spread out and swerve in difeent direction to avoid to onslught of missles sure to come.

Scorpion 1 to Red Leader, targets within range. Beginning combat sequence now.

The enemy bombers were within 100 nautical miles from Automagfreek, and the F-14's were nearly upon them. Without fighter support the Findan B-52 were at the mercy of the Gods, and on this day mercy would be out of the question. The Freek fighters spread their formation out even further and began missile lock on from three fronts, and with missiles coming towards the front and sides of the bombers, any flares or countermeasures would be basically useless.

In case the initial barrage failed, the pilots armed their 30mm depleted uranium cannons and readied themselves for close range combat. The fighters that had previously broken off were now several hundred feet higher and lower than the main strike force, and they too readied their missiles and prepared to down the enemy birds.

We have a lock on. Scorpion 1, Fox 2!

The squad leader unleashed the first AMRAAM missile onto the enemy B-52's, and within a nanosecond the other pilots joined in with a salvo of their own. The fighter to bomber ratio was in favor of the Freeks, and roughly 2 missiles per B-52 were initially launched. Since there were no missiles being fired from behind the bombers, chaff and flares would prove to be ineffective.

Scorpion Squad, this is Scorpion 1. Adjust position and prepare for enemy evasive maneuvers. Mantain weapons lock and prepare to fire again on my signal.

AMF High Command watched the radar eagerly as the missiles were launched, and from the ground they relayed information to their pilots and helped make sure the bombers would not make it another inch into AMF territory.

*Fleet B-400 Naudical miles of AMF waters.*

The fleet watched as hundreds upon hundrteds of bombers flew overhead, boimbers with no fighter support. They wherte going to be slaughted.

"When are they going to learn!" REage Captain Tibetus down the phone to the admiral, "There sitting ducks, sir, send up the fighters, please."

But the admiral was steadyfast, he was an old man, and had got to the top following orders, not by initive. "Our orders are clear, Captain, we only send up help if the bombers retreat, otherwisde we just sit here."

OOC: Right Findan, now your back, BUMP

Five bombers plunged out of the sky. Other tired to move eavisvly in hopes to escape the missiles. It was no use two more bomber tumblmed out of the sky. A poilet yelled "were getting slughted"

Major Alson ordered "retreat, head for Aust hopefully we can outlast the misiles."

Losses 7 bombers.

Within moments the first of the heavy bombers began their long plummet towards the ground, and the Freek pilots continued their aerial pounce. The main column of aircraft held their formation as the Findan bombers began to circle around and head back towards the horizon. The smoke trails of more AMRAAM missiles continued to dominate the skies as fists of jets locked onto the retreating craft and opened fire.

The other wings that had broken formation early on decended like buzzards onto the vulnerable bombers, firing Sidewinders and AMRAAMs generously while not hesitating to move in close with 30mm cannon fire. Thousands of tracers could be seen by the Freek fighters that engaged in sweeping flanking attacks, firing mercilessly before circling back around and lining themselves up for another attack run.

AMF High Command watched the radar with great interest, chatter erupting each time another bomber was dropped from the skies. The slow and lumbering heavy bombers were no match for the swift and agile fighter planes.

The brutal enfilade continued with great efficiency and even greater speed, and their intentions were to stop the bombers in the next five minutes. With the B-52's lack of speed, maneuverability, and ability to fight back, it was unlikely that any of the ill prepared Findan pilots would last much longer.

The unrelenting aerial slaughter continued without a break in the action, with the remaining Findan bombers beginning to be double and triple teamed by Freek pilots. Seven had been dropped within moments of contact, and now it was time to finish the job and return to their carriers within the next half hour.

The massacre in the air was reaching its final stage, and before the Freek fighters had even finished their work the same old ominous message came over the airwaves. The transmission was directed towards Findan High Command, but was not encrypted so that the other enemy nations in the area could hear as well.

To: Findan High Command
From: AMF High Command

In the recent hours and days you have proven the inibility of your forces to compete with ours. In all our lives we have not seen such...ineptia, and should you continue to send forces into our territory you will see more of your dead men on your TV screen.

The Fallen Races accepted the face early on that they could never hope to match blades with the Excessively Armed Empire, and they have since surrendered to us. Therefore I come to you with the same demand: that your forces stand down and issue forth terms of surrender to Automagfreek. Should you fail to do so in 24 hours we will bring the fires of Hell to your doorstep, and nothing but smoldering rubble and ash will be left in our wake.

We have no desire to waste perfectly good ammunition on destroying your nation, but we will not hesitate to do so to set an example to the rest of the world. The Fallen Races did not want to be that example, and if you feel the same then I expect you to follow suit.

The clock is ticking. What will it be, life or death? The fate of your nation rest on the decision that you must make in less than 24 hours.

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Marv Bonesplitter
-Department of Defense Chairman-

i donk know why we are arguing i will find my freind nations to fully support the findan battle beware!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i donk know why we are arguing i will find my freind nations to fully support the findan battle beware!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


OOC: Two things:

1. We're not arguing, we're RPing a war.

2. No, I will not 'beware'. You have 1 post and you're butting into a thread with 160 posts? Please go somewhere else.

i donk know why we are arguing i will find my freind nations to fully support the findan battle beware!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OOC: Listen mate, learn how to Rp before you go in with da big boys.

OOC: AMF, isn't time up?

OOC: AMF, isn't time up?


OOC: Real life time does not equal NS time.

OOC:I'm still deciding.

Alright I will leave under one circumstance, all I want is a simple response (Such as your army had an nightmare but you shake it off like water) and I will leave the stage....

OOC: Seeing as none of us are fantisy youcan just leave. Now.

And after a talk with Findan....

IC: To: Damien Dreadfire, Ruler of Automagfeek
From: Emporer William, Emporer Of Aust

Greetings honourable foe, I have sent you this message upon the behalf of Findan and my own nation. We are prepared to step down our decleration of war upon you unconitionally and create a ceasefire or Armisice.

This would involve on your part nothing more than a likewise responce from you. This would end the bloodshed and there would be no unesscary casultys on eather side. We both know that an attack upon the others nations would be basically suicide and I'm sure that you do not want that any more than i do.

To: Emperor William
From: AMF High Command

Automagfreek, being a righteous and just nation, would be willing to accept your, as you stated, unconditional surrender terms. Please draw up said terms immediately and submit them to us for review, and we will make corrections and or suggestions as needed. We will accept your offer, but now we need to make things final.

We appreciate Aust and Findan seeing the war for what it is and choosing to end the bloodshed. Through these terms let us make sure that such a conflict between our nations does not occur again.

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Marv Bonesplitter
-Department of Defense Chairman-

Who said anything about surrender, because Aust has never and will never surrender-to anyone. What I did suggest was that we have a ceasefire, an Armisice. Declaring the war a draw as you will.

The truth is that never side can win, you cannot invade and defeat Aust, and I cannot invade and defeat you. We both have the capacity to do tremdious damge to each other, Almost 15% of my military beguet goes into missiles and 40% into my airforce, but we can only damage not defeat.

The terms of this cease-fire are simple, Aust shall declare the state of War with Automagfreek annuled as will Findan, in return Automagfreek shall do the same, plus they will return the bodys of the dead.

Emporer William

Then perhaps you need a fucking English class, child, because when you use the phrase "We are prepared to step down our declaration of war upon you unconditionally", you are implying a surrender. Automagfreek will accept nothing less from Findan, but especially Aust.

You are overconfident in your ability to hold back an AMF onslaught, and unless you wise up and play your last few cards right, you will have a chance to find out for yourself. You are right, however, when you say that you could never defeat Automagfreek, so I don't know why you are trying to kid yourself.

Findan has seen first hand a mere fraction of our resolve, and unless you wish to see the forces of Hell on your doorstep, I would strongly suggest you offer your god damn terms. Our patience is not to be tested, and Automagfreek will take this fight to your doorstep if you do not give us what we want: your surrender.

Therefore we offer Aust our 24 hour ultimatum for surrender. Every nation in this operation that has stood against us has failed, and Aust will be no different.

What will it be Emperor? Will Aust save face and surrender with reasonable terms (such as the ones submitted by The Fallen Races), or will your nation be the next name on the long list of nations wiped from existance by AMF?

Your choice, but the clock is ticking.


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Marv Bonesplitter
-Department of Defense Chairman-

You may as well stop your clock now, Bonesplitter, as I won't surrender. maybe it is you that is over confident? How will yolu inavde Aust? There is only one path and that is heavly guarded. Are you sure your famous sentinals can fight in conditions as low as -40 degrees,with stiff figers can then fire off there guns against unseen targets in the mountains?

Because there fingers will remain stiff, for good, if they remain in Aust. For no one ahs concored us, no one has ever reached Aust city. We have never been defeated and it shall be us who will keep that record once this war is over.

My terms are clear, a armistic, no winners no losers. You can take them or leave them, and if you leave them you shall be wishing you hadn't. You forget that Aust ahs not lost anythign in this war yet, we have only grown stronger and with each passing day we grow even stronger. Millions of missiles and arms are being chured out by oiur factorys, the defences of the Strip and ever more complicated and impressive, mine feilds ever larger.

I advise you to take the terms, or your head shall be upon a stick that adorns the Imperial Palace.

As for the English lession, when yous peak Austian perfectly I shall do the same with your language.

Emporer William

Bump

OOC: Seeing as none of us are fantisy youcan just leave. Now.

It is not Fantasy tech, it is a mere matter of spiritualism, you know occult forces. All very MT.

OOC: Seeing as none of us are fantisy youcan just leave. Now.

It is not Fantasy tech, it is a mere matter of spiritualism, you know occult forces. All very MT.
OOC: Sprituallyism-Occult forces, that fantisy. You do know those things don't exist don't you. They don't work and never have. MT is for REAL THINGS!

OOC: Aust, please provide me with a map.

Gyrobot, leave now, before the mods get called in.

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Wrong answer.

Prepare your defenses heathen, a terrible dawn awaits you.

I suppose the harsh cold front will work to our advantage as well, as I doubt your missiles and planes can function in -40 degree weather. You had best take a good long look at your country, for it's the last time you will.
-Bonesplitter

For the first time in the operation the Freeks were about to take the offsensive, gathering hundreds of warships from several ports to do the job. The massive operation would be overseen by Zander, Dreadfire's most ruthless and highest ranking Warchief. Assisting would be a little known Warchief known as Vlad Shadowclaw, and in reserve would be Warchief Shagrath.

Judging from the arrogance spewed forth in their refusal to surrender to AMF forces, (and a quick glance at their national spending habits) it was deemed necessary to counter the threat of Austian missiles with nearly three times the normal missile frigates. Around two hundred of them were to be sent in to support the AMF landing forces, and enough supplies were brought with them to sustain a heavy long term launch. Warchief Shagrath would follow behind a day later, with more missile frigates, supplies, and Sentinels of his own.

The recently commissioned 'Sentinel' class Super Dreadnought, Templar would be joining them as well, along with two Doujin class SD's to boot.

OOC: I got Doom to modify my planes and missiles to suit th climate. I did have a map made, by wolfish but it was mucked up. I'll do what I can. A quick discription so you can work on: Aust is a mountainious country that until recently was landlocked in the center of antartica.

Around 35% of the population live in Aust city, in the very center of Aust. The city occupys basically the only large space of (relitivly) flat land in Aust. The city is over 35 miles wide, it is covered in towering skyscrapers, that dwarf most in other countrys. bIn the center of Aust City stands the Imperial Palaces, over 1000 storys high, it is the largest building in Aust and is home to the Emporer and the 99th Royal Guards legions

The rest of Aust is devided into 4 provence each containing a capital city, the only other citys in Aust, The Provences are North (Tanka), South, (Al ling), East (Nuevo) and West (Tangali). These contain around 30% of the population, 15% live a rural existance in the hills. They live mainly in samll underground towns and villages to stay out of the cold.

The other main area of Aust is the Bambinio strip which is the only peice of Aust that leads to the sea. It was won in the Antartican war and is 100 miles long and 10 miles wide. It is the main port and 20% of the populance dewell there. It is heavley fortified and home to basically Austs entired army. Over the past through weeks the ports have become even more heavley defenced. (I'm presuming here that 1-2 months have passed since the first posts on the first thread, and the already considravle defences have been built up even further.)

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Not a great discription I know, but it'll have to do, I'll contact Wolfy straight away and begin work of a map.

IC: The last Austian forces in foregain lands had just arrived back in the Bambinio strip. the tempreture was warm, the overcast day promised snow and hail later but as it was you could go out without protective clothing, it was -10 degrees.

Inside the Bambinio strip preparations wher eincreaseing, the entire country had been pu upon red alert, waiting for the Pending invasion of Aust. In veriuos missile silo hidden around the country, over 100 million missiles where put on red alert and still more on silver and gold alerts.

They had locked targets upon Automagfreeks ships, targets provided by the network of suvallience satalites that atrolled th earth from above, watching the enermy fleet assemble. Evedently Damien was prepared for the missiles but would he expect so many, few new how many missiles Aust had, but 60 years of funding into tht department ahd made the Austian missile systems incredably large.

The Airforce too was ready, a call up had been issued to all the old piolets and so old F-11's, Spitfires and Eurofighters, property of private collecters stood ready for use against the enermy-old privately own planes flown by 60 year old vetrens ready to die for the god emporer.

The army to was ready for anything, the defences in the Bambinio strip ran deep-deep underground, impevious to anything including nuclear weapons. An d in that network of tunnels, trench, pillboxes that streached across the whole 10 mile front millions unpon millions of men waited.

the best where the ASS, elite opratives hadnpicked from the best of there conscription year, only 10,000 where picked out of the 100 million that went through the cycle every year and they where the best-and they new it.

Then there where the legionarys, again the elite of the conscription ranks, not as talented as the ASS to be fair but still far better than most men. When you consider that just three quaters of a million men where picked to ebcome legionarres out of each conscription year, and then armed to the teeth, you may get an impression of there strenght.

Now we move on to the reservesist-the conscripts, each between 14-16, there are millions upon untold millions of these men, each witht here flak jacket, sub-machine gun and helmate ready to defend Aust.

Finally you have the billions of Home Guard. Men who-having been ejected from the conscription process where presented with there gun, there armour and told to report to the local platoon post every wednesday night. They may be 91 with a gammy eye and one foot blown off but they where still keen to do there duty.

these where the forces that where prepared to fight Austomagfreek, some highly professional, some incredably shambolic, all hidden behind muge defences, watching and waiting.

To Mr.Dreadfire
From Emperor Samuel II


Findan shall stnd by Aust, even if it means we go down with them, but alas, it shall not happen! The Imperial Land of Findan and the Honerable People of Aust shall be victiorious. We shall win this struggle not matter what. You had your chance. You could have excepted Aust's armistace offer, that would have rid of two foes, but you are to proud. You will accept only unconditional surredor. It is your loss, but our gain.

You would have had an easy victory, but instead you choose a hard road. Trust me, Findan and Aust shant go down quietly. We will not go down with out a fight.


Long Live Findan!

Long Live Aust!

Bump!

~From the desk of Lord Damien the Destroyer, Supreme Warlord of the Excessively Armed Empire of Automagfreek~

On the contrary, Emperor Samuel, this was your easy way out. By not accepting your defeat such as The Fallen Races did, you have now have to be shown that you inferior. You have sealed the fate of your entire nation, and after your pathetic ships near our waters have been destroyed, the AMF scourge will come to your shores. Oh yes, you have thrown away your last chance at exiting this campaign...outside of death.

If you think you have what it takes to even lick the dust from my boots, send your little toy boats into my waters and see how you stack up. I guaranty that the result will put a pathetic upstart such as yourself back in your place.

Sleep Now In The Fire, little one, your day of reckoning is at hand. Before this campaign is over, you and Emperor William will bow before me and admit your defeat, mark my words.

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---Damien the Destroyer---
-Supreme Warlord of AMF-

The Freeks had spent weeks after the declaration of hostilities gathering their troops and supplies, making sure each Sentinel was properly equipped to fight in the cold conditions of Aust. Cold weather gear had been issued to each soldier as well as special heating packs to warm their water and food before consumption. The tops of the ULE Mountains were the coldest place on Automagfreek, where some of the jagged peaks extended well past the clouds. The Sentinel Mountain Divisions were all too familiar with this inhospitable climate, having trained for this and other mountain operations exclusively. The other Sentinels, however, would fare just as well on a fighting edge, but the Mountain divisions had the higher experience over the run of the mill Sentinel.

The Findan fleets near AMF territorial waters were more or less scoffed at, their presence not a concern to Zander or Shadowclaw. The invasion of Findan would follow soon after that of Aust, as Findan was rather low on the international pecking order and had limited military experience to boot.

For the first time in the operation the Freeks were about to take the offensive, for it had already been proven that Automagfreek was impenetrable to enemy forces. The naval yards and war material factories had been in full swing since the beginning of the was, but now the ante was upped once more as 24 hour operations had been ordered.

For the invasion of Aust, some five hundred thousand Sentinels would take part as a first and second wave force, with another seven hundred and fifty thousand on standby. Tens of thousands of tanks outfitted with wider treads for better weight distribution over snow would assist, as well as thousand of artillery and anti-air pieces. A formidable naval force had been assembled as well, with four Super Dreadnoughts taking part in the operation. With their aircarft and the fighters from the carriers, the numbers in the skies would be more than even, and Zander already had several aces up his sleeve.

For Findan, an initial force of one hundred thousand Sentinels would be used, with another one hundred and fifty thousand in reserve. Less than ten thousand tanks and artillery pieces would be used, and the number of aircraft for this theater was nearly a quarter of what had been allocated for Aust, but it was still a more than worthy force. Things were about to get very, very ugly.

The cannons where ready, not the old gunpoweder types of old-not in t he first line of defence- but new, huge machines cpable of firing explosives over hundreds of miles. Every day brought more Austian defenders to the front, ones who ahd joined the armed forces to become legionnarys and complete there training.

Of course they couldn't have the full training that the true legionarrys had, that would take years, but the they had had 3 months of trainign on top of the two years of training they had recived as conscripts.

The fatcirys of Aust had switch over to producing the nessacitys, weapons, armour and shells. Huge sheet of armoured plate where hammered by the forges then transported to the front. Hundreds of thousands of mahcine guns, artillary, heavy weapons, tank busters and Hound fighters poured out of the factorys. Ammunition piled up at storepoints.

William chose not to reply to Damiens posturing and messages instead busying himself with every aspect of the defence.

305 Nautical Miles from AMF waters

The Grand Fleet had entered Tomahawak range at last. Several weeks of jounrying had come to this. The war would be taken to the Freeks with this grand flotilla command by Vice Admiral Sir Henry Louis Guzman.

Guzman stood on the bridge of Emperor Mathiew III, the flagship of the Grand Fleet. This was his second largest commad ever. During the Catfish Crisis he had taken the Tenth Fleet which was part of the Grand Fleet, in as a peacekeeping force. It had been sucessful the Nuetral Powers had prevented war from breaking out. Now, Vice Admiral Guzman had to fight instead of trying to prevent a fight. He hoped he would be able to ward off and defeat te Frek, but time would have to tell...

The Imperial Palace, Granton, Findan

Emperor Samuel II of Findan was irate. He and his cousin-in-law, William IV of Aust had offered an Armistace to Automagfreek, but Dreadfire had rejected it. Dreadfire easly could have taken two of his foes out of the fight, but he chose not too. He could have stood an even better chance of victory had he taken that offer, but NO, he was too Proud. Now he would pay for his folly, that ever so selfish pride. The Grand Findanian Fleet was in range to start striking AMF from the ships. Even if he had managed to suceed and invade Aust, surely it's harsh climate wuld put an end to his invasion. Historically climate has had a powerful and decisve role in warfare. Napoleon and Hitler failed to conquer Russia, beacause of its sheer size and harsh climate. Alexzander the Great's army fell, not to any human foes, but to the great desert. Aust would prove as inhospitable as Persia or Russia.

He turned to his wife, Empress Heather H'Ines of Aust and said, "Honey, will your cousin be able to deafeat The Sentiels if they come? I'm sure Aust's climate should prove very tasking to the Sentiels? If not I do not know what we can do but pray."

To the Bump-Cave!

OOC: Give me a day or two, I have to deal with the unemployment office, a $235 speeding ticket, and job searching.

The Imperial Palace, Granton, Findan

Emperor Samuel II of Findan was irate. He and his cousin-in-law, William IV of Aust had offered an Armistace to Automagfreek, but Dreadfire had rejected it. Dreadfire easly could have taken two of his foes out of the fight, but he chose not too. He could have stood an even better chance of victory had he taken that offer, but NO, he was too Proud. Now he would pay for his folly, that ever so selfish pride. The Grand Findanian Fleet was in range to start striking AMF from the ships. Even if he had managed to suceed and invade Aust, surely it's harsh climate wuld put an end to his invasion. Historically climate has had a powerful and decisve role in warfare. Napoleon and Hitler failed to conquer Russia, beacause of its sheer size and harsh climate. Alexzander the Great's army fell, not to any human foes, but to the great desert. Aust would prove as inhospitable as Persia or Russia.

He turned to his wife, Empress Heather H'Ines of Aust and said, "Honey, will your cousin be able to deafeat The Sentiels if they come? I'm sure Aust's climate should prove very tasking to the Sentiels? If not I do not know what we can do but pray."
"From the U2 satalite pictures it looks like Dreadfires only deploying 5,000 men to attack Aust, if thats true then william has a huge advantage in numbers, defences and the climate. If Aust can't hold against that i don't know what we can do."

OCC: Take your time AMF, sounds like you've had it hard.

OOC: Look again Aust, I think you misread the numbers.

OOC: Got it. AMF. Take your time. Just post a bump or somthing when you retrun.

OOC:500,000 in the first wave, 750,000 in the second.

OOC:That's alot Aust. I got a grand total of 250,000 coming at me. Hopefully Sarz, Prea, and Hog can step up the attacks against him.

OOC: Give me a day or two, I have to deal with the unemployment office, a $235 speeding ticket, and job searching.OOC: Shit! That sucks!

You know what I'm going to say: Take care of the RL stuff first. It's more important than anything that goes on here.

OOC:That's alot Aust. I got a grand total of 250,000 coming at me. Hopefully Sarz, Prea, and Hog can step up the attacks against him.
OOC: Not in NS terms, Aust has a small standing army of 4 million, I could (Technically feild far, far more than that, I could feild about 100 million if I was using tghe 5% rule.

Sarzonia-I totally agree.

OOC: Not in NS terms, Aust has a small standing army of 4 million, I could (Technically feild far, far more than that, I could feild about 100 million if I was using tghe 5% rule.

Sarzonia-I totally agree.
OOC:I know I can fiedl 80 mil. Sarz, are you still at war with AMF or his allies? What about Prea, or Hog?

AMF, are you ready to reume yet, or shall we find an IC reason to end this war?

OOC: Just chill.

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With the closing of the main front in Operation: Hellfire, there would be a change in plans for the upcoming war against Findan and Aust. With Hogsweat and Praetonia out of the war, the full resources of the Excessively Armed Empire could be committed to this war. The numbers were staggering, and with the additions of Zander, Count Anderton, Azrael, and Lord Dreadfire himself, the assault force for Findan and Aust would be nearly five times its anticipated size.

With ships continuing to fill up in port, the vessels previously inside the AMF/Panteran straight began to leave the area and head towards eastern Automagfreek. All eyes were now on the tiny Findanian fleet, which was now starring at thousands of battle ready ships, ranging from subs and transports to Sentinel class Super Dreadboughts. The Reaver had been repaired, and alongside the recently commissioned Templar, the two SD's would be allocated to the Austian front, while the world famous Sentinel would join in the Findanian assault.

Millions of Sentinels made the final preparations for battle before loading up onto their designated ships. Tens of thousands of tanks and planes would assist them in the symphony of terror that lay just around the corner. With several weeks time already behind them, the massive armada prepared to move out. All that stood between it and quite possibly one of the largest battles ever was a small Findanian fleet.....

As you may or may not know, your allies Praetonia and the late Hogsweat have been taken out of this war. There is nobody left to aide you, there is nobody left to save you from the raging inferno that awaits you both. If you thought the odds were against you before, know that now they are unbeatable, for the forces committed to the Praetonian/Hogsweatian front have turned their attentions to you both. The Destroyer himself comes, to the tune of millions of bloodthirsty Sentinels.

Aust and Findan, your days are numbered. Who will hear your cries as you fall?

Sleep Now In The Fire.

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Marv Bonesplitter
-Department of Defense Chairman-

As you may or may not know, your allies Praetonia and the late Hogsweat have been taken out of this war. There is nobody left to aide you, there is nobody left to save you from the raging inferno that awaits you both. If you thought the odds were against you before, know that now they are unbeatable, for the forces committed to the Praetonian/Hogsweatian front have turned their attentions to you both. The Destroyer himself comes, to the tune of millions of bloodthirsty Sentinels.

Aust and Findan, your days are numbered. Who will hear your cries as you fall?

Sleep Now In The Fire.

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Marv Bonesplitter
-Department of Defense Chairman-
Unbeatable, nothing is unbeatable as you well know, I suppose you would attempt to chill my bone with threats and insults, well you may but still i am not afraid.

Hogsweat may be gone, as may Praetonia, but I will still not flinch from this fight.

Someone has to stand against you, my enermy, before you bcome powerful, too powerful. Even if I am destroyed then you shall have a fight that will be remebered as long as humans walk the earth.

Emproer William of Aust

Automagfreek, you have mad ethis offer, once and now twice, but my answer is as same as always. No. We shan't surrendor. Even if we die you shall always rember Findan and Aust. Mabye it shall be you who falls. Surely Automagfreek can't live forever can it? Mabye we have no allies left, but we can always get some. You will have a hard time deafeating our two nations. Our citzens shall defend every last peice of soil to their last breath. Every Findanian adn Austian citizen is more than ready to lay down thier lives to defeat Automagfreek. The word on the streets is "Better to die for Findan than to live as a slave for Automagfreek!" Even if you win you shan't have any joy from it. It will only be a Phyrric Victory. It is you who will "Sleep Now In the Fire", for the darkest realms of Hell is waiting for you, Dreadfire. Long Live Findan! Long Live Aust! Victory Victory! We will never, never, never surredor. Hail Imperial Findania!

Emperor Samuel II

OOC: try paragraphs mate.

OOC: I need maps and any sort of helpful descriptions before I can coordinate my attacks.

OOC:I've sent Wolfy a request for a map so all I can do is wait. I think I posted a discription of Aust earlyer on.

OOC: I'll get workin' on a map . I should have it up for you soon.

BUMP-and all was quite on the Bambinio front.

BUMP-and all was quite on the Bambinio front.

OOC: No point in bumping. Until I get maps I can't plan any of my attacks.....

OOC: Still no reply from Wolfy-I'll try another guy.

OOC: Sorry to hijack this thread, but try Phoenixius.

OOC: Sorry to hijack this thread, but try Phoenixius.
OOC: Shall do.

[OOC: I make you a map; I just need to know if you have any specific landmass or shape in mind. TG me with everything if you want. I'll make it this evening, or tomorrow at the latest.]

TG sent.

OOC: just subscribing to the thread...

[OOC: Map of Aust I whipped up. Apologies if it's not exactly what you expected, but I hope it helped: Map (http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/7128/aust6yx.gif)]

OOC: About right, if we take the boarders of Aust to be round the provence side, so those other ones are other coutnrys. Thats mate.

[OOC: The provences are divided by a dark purple line and the international boundries are the light purple, so you are sorrounded by nations, except for at Bambinio. I'm not quite getting what you're saying, sorry.]

[OOC: The provences are divided by a dark purple line and the international boundries are the light purple, so you are sorrounded by nations, except for at Bambinio. I'm not quite getting what you're saying, sorry.]
OOC: Basically wot you where.

(ooc: unsubscribing)

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OOC: This is what we call spam. Please stop.

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OOC: Theres no need for that.

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This is the second time you suscribed. btw I should have the map up tommorrow if all prevails.

Ump

OOC: Still waiting for Findan.....

OOC: Aye. you've got a map of Aust anyway. Reamber that however it looks on the map the strips ports are only 10 miles wide. (And the fornt.)

OOC: The entire continent is yours, right?

OOC: No, just the center. The other lines are countrys. I'm the 5 provences, in the center.

OOC: A map might be awhile, I'm going to be busy for a while.

OOC: A map might be awhile, I'm going to be busy for a while.

OOC: Then this will be paused until that time.

Okay

OOC:Okay.

OOC: To let you know it may be a long whlie, so perhaps we should find a quick IC way of ending the war, and beacause this war ha sbeen dragging on for a long time now.

OOC: To let you know it may be a long whlie, so perhaps we should find a quick IC way of ending the war, and beacause this war ha sbeen dragging on for a long time now.

OOC: I am willing to wait as long as it takes. If you cannot create a map, there are many others in NS who can help you.

Map is no problem, it's just my time on NS is going to be limited.

[ooc:] Just happened to drop by and see this... I can help, I'm pretty good with maps. Just TG me a description of what you'd want or the general outline of your territory (RL comparisons are always helpful) and I'll try to map it...

As for wars dragging on for a while, I've been involved in one war since about April. It's gone to something over 150 posts (although it's set in the distant past, so I'm free to start any future RPs afterwards, we agreed on the outcome) and it's only now starting to come towards its end. So the things go on for a while sometimes. ;)

Map is no problem, it's just my time on NS is going to be limited.
Well, if it isn't a problem, then forget about my above post... Didn't see this when I had started mine.

Well, if it isn't a problem, then forget about my above post... Didn't see this when I had started mine.
OOC: It's fine. Mabye we should agrre on the outcome, so I can eventually, when I get more time I can do other rps.

OOC: Thing is that AMF won't accept anything less than the total destruction of us and our surrender and we won't surrender.

OOC: Thing is that AMF won't accept anything less than the total destruction of us and our surrender and we won't surrender.
OOC: If I leave all I'll do is withdraw and stop fighting. I want to keep Findan, I've worked to long and hard to get Findan up to this level. So mabaye a caesefire and withdraw by us will work.

OOC: If I leave all I'll do is withdraw and stop fighting. I want to keep Findan, I've worked to long and hard to get Findan up to this level. So mabaye a caesefire and withdraw by us will work.

You can always RP it rising from the ashes, or any number of things, should AMF destroy you utterly. "The End" is never the end in NS unless you want it to be, or you piss off a mod. I understand how hard it could be to let go of it all though, I sure wouldn't want to.

You can always RP it rising from the ashes, or any number of things, should AMF destroy you utterly. "The End" is never the end in NS unless you want it to be, or you piss off a mod. I understand how hard it could be to let go of it all though, I sure wouldn't want to.
OOC:The only problem is that, I do not want to create new caracters and cities, and buildings etc.

OOC:The only problem is that, I do not want to create new caracters and cities, and buildings etc.

OOC: Then why did you get involved in a war against me, knowing that I ICly would never accept anything other than surrender or total destruction? ;)

OOC: Then why did you get involved in a war against me, knowing that I ICly would never accept anything other than surrender or total destruction? ;)
OOC: I know, I accepted that I was putting my nation on the line here, you'll reamber I'm only an allie here-this is Findans war. And no I wouldn't acccept anything other than a ceasefire, or surrender.

OOC: Then why did you get involved in a war against me, knowing that I ICly would never accept anything other than surrender or total destruction? ;)
OOC: Being, who I am I didn't think things thourgh. I did not know that I would have to face the utter destruction of my country.

OOC: Being, who I am I didn't think things thourgh. I did not know that I would have to face the utter destruction of my country.
OOC: I did warn you, like myself and a few other nations, (Most nations with 6 billion pop+good RPing AMF will be hard to defeat.

OOC: I know, I do not know what got hold of me. I just don't think I can win any more. I at least want to escape with some dignity.

OOC: I know, I do not know what got hold of me. I just don't think I can win any more. I at least want to escape with some dignity.


OOC: Fine, I understand that we all make mistakes, and I am a reasonable guy. I am willing to retcon your involvement (and since he was your ally in this matter), as well as Aust's involvement.

But know this: ICly Automagfreek does NOT tolerate nations threating or making war against it. AMF has destroyed entire civilizations for lesser reasons, and that is why I ICly would not accept anything other than surrender or total victory. I recall a certain incident where Lord Dreadfire razed an entire nation to the ground simply for speaking to him the wrong way.

Now you know, so tread carefully.

OOC: Fine, I understand that we all make mistakes, and I am a reasonable guy. I am willing to retcon your involvement (and since he was your ally in this matter), as well as Aust's involvement.

But know this: ICly Automagfreek does NOT tolerate nations threating or making war against it. AMF has destroyed entire civilizations for lesser reasons, and that is why I ICly would not accept anything other than surrender or total victory. I recall a certain incident where Lord Dreadfire razed an entire nation to the ground simply for speaking to him the wrong way.

Now you know, so tread carefully.
OOC: That was Austo-Hungary, wasn't it...or was it new Sparta. Whoever it was it was bloody. I'm in here until the end odviously but if Findan accepts your offer...

OOC: That was Austo-Hungary, wasn't it...or was it new Sparta. Whoever it was it was bloody. I'm in here until the end odviously but if Findan accepts your offer...

OOC: These are the nations that I have wiped from existance during my time on NS (this is not my war record, but instead a list of those that were sent to the 'great' beyond' at my hands):

Perrier, MagicChina, The Most Moral Order, Magicians of Knights, Gangstas Paradise, The bisons, Mohahi, Tech-Annihater, New Spartha, Austo Hungary

The last two were the only ones obliterated by Dreadfire, though they were much more....colorful that the rest. The first 8 were mostly destroyed by nuclear strikes, but some were razed to the ground. Ironically, that was all done under a democratic Automagfreek with President Thomas Kaye in charge.

OOC: These are the nations that I have wiped from existance during my time on NS (this is not my war record, but instead a list of those that were sent to the 'great' beyond' at my hands):

Perrier, MagicChina, The Most Moral Order, Magicians of Knights, Gangstas Paradise, The bisons, Mohahi, Tech-Annihater, New Spartha, Austo Hungary

The last two were the only ones obliterated by Dreadfire, though they were much more....colorful that the rest. The first 8 were mostly destroyed by nuclear strikes, but some were razed to the ground. Ironically, that was all done under a democratic Automagfreek with President Thomas Kaye in charge.
OOC: I was around ofr most of them but the last two are the ones I remaber the most.

OOC: Fine, I understand that we all make mistakes, and I am a reasonable guy. I am willing to retcon your involvement (and since he was your ally in this matter), as well as Aust's involvement.

Now you know, so tread carefully.
OOC: I aceppt your offer and I will think things thourgh ever so much clearly next time around.

We will send supplies to findan but that is all The Holy Empire of Phenixica
has recently crushed a rebellion and needs to restabilize itself before getting involved in international politic's.

From his Majesty Emperor Belcameron II of the Phenixican Nation and it's Colonies.


OOC: I hope you realize that this war has been long since over.....

OOC: However, it would be nice if there was a resolved IC conclusion. As in to say, the Emperor of Findan adopts the treaty Chancellor Saruwati proposed to AMF, and both parties agree, signing it, thus ending the war.

IC ending would be nice but the problem is, and ahs been, that neather side will surrender,

It was just that I was in way over my head and made a big OCC mistake by declaring war on AMF. It'll be a while before I am that stupid again.

War is not a good thing at all.. My nation is ready to send in peace keeping troops if this war continues and kill both side ...
so be aware...

War is not a good thing at all.. My nation is ready to send in peace keeping troops if this war continues and kill both side ...
so be aware...
The war is over.

Findan, since you're the author of this thread, request that a mod lock it.