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The Tides of War[PMT,FT Attn. New Empire]

Markov
12-09-2005, 03:00
--4 weeks prior:: Hall of the Senate, New Bethesda, Eastern Markov--
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180 Senators filed into the brand new senate Hall that had been built the previous year. Each of them represented a different, region, province, city or town in the Republic. Some had more power than others, but they were all in the hall for the same reason. They all took their seats in the large octagonal shaped room according to the size area they represented. The last time all of the senators had convened in a conference was after the fall of the "Black Hand" regime.

One whole side of the room was reserved the President and his staff. President Stillen and his Joint Chiefs of staff entered after all of the senators had settled down. They took their seats.

The steeply inclining rows of seats were centered on a retractable kiosk in the middle of the room. The kiosk had 8 screens on it, all of which were presently off.

The Chancellor Oliver Parkes (also the senator of the Province of Ascadia) stood. He had been chosen 4 years ago to lead the senate in it's decision making. He did not however have authority over the president or the president's staff. As he stood, the room fell silent.
"Ladies and gentlemen, we have been brought here today, not because of our government or our institutions, but because of our people." Parkes adjusted the microphone and continued, "This country's roots are of war. Tribal cities that were divided until the people brought them together. Markov was built for the people, and no matter how we have convinced ourselves that they are not the ruling body, ultimately, they are and they always will be."

President Stillen shifted in his seat. He knew what was coming next. Everyone knew it.

Parkes continued,"As I said before, this country's roots are of conflict and as such, our people are extremely patriotic. It is that patriotism that is the driving force behind our being here today. We have lost two wars to the United City States of New Empire. After our first loss, our government was corrupt and was turning Markov into the very thing those who founded this country strove to avoid: A dictatorship. After our second loss, the people had put the corrupt regime out of power. And those people chose us to rule. It is our duty to consider their opinions and their beliefs."

Parkes sat down and the Senator Stenson of the Province of Amaya stood. "The issue at hand today has been submitted and contributed to by 3 billion Markovian citizens across all six Markovian provinces." He paused," Issue 1311: New Empirian Conflict Declaration. In summary, the citizens of The Republic of Markov wish for a formal state of war to be declared upon the UCSNE. They believe that Markov has existed in the shadow of New Empire for too long. Our economy and our national morale has been directly affected by those two wars fought with New Empire. They say quote "The New Empirian war machine must be put to rest." Stenson stopped talking and looked up from the charter into the room. "That is all." He said.

The senators in the room began talking amongst themselves.

Parkes rose yet again from his seat. All fell silent again. "We will now vote on the issue." Ballots were passed around to all of the senators. Some of the senators received more votes than others depending on their area of control. The senators finished with their ballots extremely quickly, that worried Stillen. He was not in favor of a conflict. The ballots were collected and recess began during in which time they would be counted. Stillen left the senate hall ahead of his staff. He had to be alone.

The conference reconvened in 15 minutes. After everyone had taken their seats yet again, Parkes stood. "Ladies and gentlemen of the senate. With the regard to Issue 1311: New Empirian Conflict Declaration, the results are 131 to 49 votes in favor of conflict with the nation of New Empire. This conference is ended. That is all."

Stillen sat awestruck. His national security advisor leaned over to talk to him. "Sir, technically, you have the power to override this decision. But, with those kind of numbers I'm not sure you'd want to. They would just conduct a vote of confidence and kick you out. Either way, it's going to happen."
Stillen got up and left the room.
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Later that week back in the Presidential building at New Antioch Stillen decided that he would not oppose the ruling. He met with the heads of all six military branches at the Strategic Military Command headquarters that same week to discuss the military operations. Stillen also contacted the President of the Armed Republic of G-corp to try and bring them into an alliance. They accepted. None of the happenings within the Hall of the Senate were to be disclosed to the public until D-Day. This would prove to be the largest military mobilization in the history of Markov.
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--Present Day 4:13AM NEST:: Markovian Battle Armadas I and II holding position just outside New Empirian waters--

Admiral Greylock was fast asleep in his quarters aboard the command super dreadnaught. The ship was a new design, straight from the shipyards at New Geneva. The SD-148 Invincible class was the pride of the RMNF. Thirtyfive of them had been ordered specifically for this operation.

The Admiral had replaced President Stillen as the commander of all Markovian naval forces 4 years ago. He loved his job, but he didn't like being away from the homeland for extended periods of time. The intercom in his room came awake. He had asked to be awakened when they arrived. Admiral Greylock to the bridge please. The Admiral made his way out of his room. He took an elevator ride to the bridge.

Captain Scott Davis of the RMNF-02 saluted the Admiral. "How was your sleep, sir? He inquired.
The Admiral returned the salute. "It was great. Now, what is the situation?"
"Sir, all 250 ships are in position.G-corps ships have not arrived yet but expected to take our right flank shortly." The Captain replied.
The Admiral looked out the windows of the bridge at all the ships whose lights were glowing in the darkness.
"An what of New Empire? Do they appear to know we are coming?" The Admiral asked.
"I don't believe they know anything, and if they do, they aren't doing anything about it. Our RADAR and SONAR confirms there are no enemy vessels within a 25-mile radius around our current position." The Captain shifted his weight.
"We will begin military operations as soon as G-corps ships arrive. You know the drill. We've been over it a hundred times." The Captain nodded.

The Admiral was tired. He wanted to go back to sleep, but he couldn't now. He glanced out the starboard window of the bridge. The G-corp navy had arrived and was taking their positions.

Greylock turned to the Captain. "They're here. Commence operation Crossbow."

Two Providence class nuclear submarines departed from the main fleet. They surfaced and began to target cities, military installations and towns of coastal New Empire. Among their targets was the Kursk islands and the space elevator. Their VLS cells became active. They opened fire. Their first volley unleashed 20 RA-11 Hypersonic SLAM missiles. The missiles flew at low level toward their targets. As soon as the missiles were away, another 20 of them were loaded and fired. This time the missiles were plasma yield. Third volleys of low-yield nuclear missiles were fired and then the ships sank beneath the waves. They dropped to a depth of 300 feet. Their torpedo tubes were auto-loaded. They opened fire again on New Empirian naval ports with nuclear yield supercavitating torpedoes. Firing continued for 12 minutes. 155 torpedoes were launched. The ships then began to head back to the fleet.

Back at the fleet, the super dreadnaughts and missile frigates were preparing to fire upon New Empire's SDI network. Hypervelocity ASAT missiles were being loaded into the tubes. The order was given and the missiles exploded from their VLS cells and lit up the night sky for miles around. 290 ASAT missiles were fired.

Ten RSB-200L Stealth orbital bombers had been put in high orbit geosync over New Empire. Each of them had 6 high energy rail driver weapons. They targeted interior New Empirian cities with depleted uranium rods. They each fired 5 vollies and stood by for a damage report.

On the decks of the Markovian carriers, IB-678 Stealth Intercontinental bombers were preparing for takeoff along with FX-78 unmanned air superiority fighters for escort. Their mission would be to enter New Empirian territory and hit anything the missiles failed to hit with nuclear and conventional ordinance. Some of the bombers were already in the air. Soon G-corp bomber squadrons would also join them.

The Armadas began to move forward slowly into New Empirian waters. If all had gone as planned, the New Empirians had no idea what was going on since a formal state of war hadn't been declared. The ships were on high alert. They expected a New Empirian naval engagement. A squadron of sub-fighters were sent out to search for and destroy mines.
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Markovian fleet: 405 ships
Armadas 1 and 2
>35x Alexandria class CVN
>35x Pacifica class CVN
>40x tankers
>25x Invincible Class super dreadnaughts
>80x Madison class stealth destroyers
>50x Missile Frigates
>60x Sarratoga class Cruisers
>30x Providence class nuclear submarines[catapillar drive]
>50x Amphibious assault craft
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OOC: I need a map of your nation.
G-corp
12-09-2005, 03:01
4:36:45 NEST Super Dreadnought Athena holding position outside New Emperian Waters. Captain Jacob Hilcons holds his pipe in his hands and fiddles with it. He knows that its not regulation to have narcotics on the main deck but he does not light it, he just fiddles with it when he’s nervous, and he is most definitely nervous after all when the Markovian head contacted bean and told him about this he nearly blew a gasket. This was to be the biggest military movement in G-corps history besides the war with the APTO. The captain shuddered at that thought and pushed it aside his main objective now was to meet up with the Markovian armada and launch there own bombers to meet up with the Markovian heavy bombers. Once they have done this they will be able to move in his armada that was recently given to him not 8 hours before. As soon as he received word that his armada was in position he gave word to begin launching the Nightwing Low level Anti matter bombers. As soon as they were in the air they began to meet up with the Markovian bombers above NE airspace.


4:47:19 NEST Canchuarin Class Medium Frigate Holding orbit above NE. The Captain had been given the task of ferrying and dropping 60 of the Anubis Mark III edition Special Forces tactical unit. They were each armed with Spider assault rifles, HE flash and stun grenades, M90 pistols, Jhonka heavy assault shotguns and the occasional HAVOK tactical nuclear warhead. Just incase they run into something that needs to disappear in a hurry. Other than that they were going to be dropped in via Orbital dropship and a few Orbital Drop Pods. “Sir, are we a go for dropping the Anubis armors?!?” asked one of the technicians over an intercom. “Yes I think it’s a good time to drop them were almost over the destination point for them to drop” replied the commander. “sir, yes sir” replied the tech. the ship shuddered as it launched 30 of the highly advanced special forces Anubises in there singular ODP’s the captain watched as the pods began there descent on NE. He thought to himself they are the best of the best they can handle themselves for their sake he hoped so. He also noticed 3 of the Raven Heavy Dropship’s launching out of the hanger bays; they had requested that one of the Ravens, the one leading the drop, be strapped with a few heavy HAVOK tactical nukes. He had asked them why but the captain simply replied just incase there was a big wall needing punching through. But he had done his part all the Anubises were away, his job was done. “Ok corporal lets turn this ship around and head home”. “Yes sir, admiral sir”. The corporal replied, “We’re heading home”.

G-corp Armada-Naval
2-Osiris Class Heavy Capital Ship
60 Hyperion Class Medium Destroyers
50 Orion Class Heavy Frigates
40 Marauder Class Heavy Destroyers
50 Hercules Class Heavy Carriers
18 Athena Class Super Dreadnoughts
30 Tankers

G-corp Misc. Forces
60 Anubis Special Forces soldiers


OOC:you can find all of my pics for my ships on http://photobucket.com/albums/b229/bean89032/
The Macabees
12-09-2005, 03:04
[TAG for later read. This should be damn good. Is it open? I've never really RPd with New Empire on NS, but we RP all the time on W@W.]
Markov
12-09-2005, 11:39
OOC: It's semi open. NE's allies can Rp.
G-corp
12-09-2005, 18:29
OOC:wow what taking him so long

any ways yea so i guess that this is going to be a pretty big war huh hahahaa this is going to be sweet ;D
Markov
12-09-2005, 19:43
bumpidybump bump
G-corp
12-09-2005, 19:46
OOC: o boi is this road gonna be bumpy Markov give me a call but make it quick i am going to see the phychiatrist at 4 o clock again but ne time between now and then and 5 and 10 is good for me but remember to call plz thnx
New Empire
12-09-2005, 20:51
OOC: Uh, yeah guys, before we start, a few things:

I now RP at 2030 or so tech.

I don't RP space warships anymore, nothing more advanced than a hypersoar type thing really, so orbital bombers are OK. But my nation's too far north for a geosync orbit. So giant space warships, orbital paratroopers and so on are out for this.

I also found out that supercav ships are pretty much impossible for PMT. Something about them consuming the energy of an atlas rocket every second just to maintain speed. Yeah.

So if you want to change your posts or anything before I reply, that'd be cool.
Thrashia
12-09-2005, 20:54
The officer ran through the metallic hallways in a rush. He nocked into several people, even over turning a secretary who was carrying a large amount of papers. Running through the south hanger and past the mess hall, the officer came to the metal door with the word: "Commander" painted on it.

Without knocking he slamed his fist into the door activation switch and rushed into the room. Colonel Weimar was sitting behind his desk, a large amount of paper and data disk laying on it. Even in the hot stuffy office the Colonel was still wearing his full uniform.

Weimar looked up from his work. "Yes Lieutenant Thales?" he asked.

"Sir, we have just recieved intelligence reports from our Alpha operative in the United City States of New Empire. According to the report sir, the Markovian military has launched a massive sea borne assault, their allies G-Corp have also been detected orbiting outside UCSNE air space," the Lieutenant said this all very fast then sucked in breathe.

Colonel Weimar's eyes shrunk into a disturbed look. He turned his swivel chair around to face the rear wall where a monitor was. After pressing a few keys on a small keyboard next to the monitor he sat back and waited. Seconds later an image of an old greying man in a generals unifrom appeared.

"What is it Colonel Weimar? Do you know what time it is, or have you forgot the time differences after being stationed on the moon?" asked General Aupel von Cluashwitz. The old general had a deep scar running from his forehead, through his right eye, and down to his cheek. It contorted slightly as the general expressed his anger.

"No sir, I simply am contacting you, there is an emergency. The armies of both Markovia and G-Corp have begun an assault on the New Empire," Colonel Weimar said cooly.

The generals eyes widened for a moment, then his face settled into an authorative and determinded face. "Very well...we must act with haste. Our planet is only a few hundred lightyears from there..." the general looked down for a moment then looked back up at Weimar," You Colonel are to deploy with the Second Mobile Army in concert with Admiral Schwarts who will supply transport with the 1st Fleet."

"Yes sir. Once there I will settle into a defensive stance. I request the authroity to requisition 300 more Leo mobile suits from our reserves."

"Granted Colonel. I want you gone by 2500 tommorow." The monitor went black again. Weimar turned back to Lieutenant Thales.

"You heard the General, Thales, get 2nd Army moving and contact Admiral Schwarts, hes an old war hero and I am sure he will be happy to be going into another conflict."

Thales saluted. "Yes sir, right away!"



Within 12 standard hours the 2nd Mobile Army under Colonel Weimar had loaded its men and mobile suits aboard the transports of the 1st Fleet under Admiral Schwarts. By 2345 the next day the fleet was headed to the New Empire.

OOC: Here is the page to my weapons and fleet schematics: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=443689
New Empire
12-09-2005, 21:03
OOC: Uh, yeah guys, before we start, a few things:

I now RP at 2030 or so tech.

I don't RP space warships anymore, nothing more advanced than a hypersoar type thing really, so orbital bombers are OK. But my nation's too far north for a geosync orbit. So giant space warships, orbital paratroopers and so on are out for this.

I also found out that supercav ships are pretty much impossible for PMT. Something about them consuming the energy of an atlas rocket every second just to maintain speed. Yeah.

So if you want to change your posts or anything before I reply, that'd be cool.

OOC: Sorry to crash your party Thrashia, but like I said, I RP at 2030 tech now. If you guys really can't go on without space, I'll see if I can dig up my old stuff from when I stopped using FT several months ago.
Thrashia
12-09-2005, 21:25
OOC: My nation is PMT, they use rudimentry space warships, nothing really manuverable. Onlything that is would be my space Mobile Suits and they are PMT as well...
Commandia
12-09-2005, 21:33
OOC: This should get interesting.... Oh well, i'll stand by for now.
Markov
12-09-2005, 22:28
OOC: Uh, yeah guys, before we start, a few things:

I now RP at 2030 or so tech.

I don't RP space warships anymore, nothing more advanced than a hypersoar type thing really, so orbital bombers are OK. But my nation's too far north for a geosync orbit. So giant space warships, orbital paratroopers and so on are out for this.

I also found out that supercav ships are pretty much impossible for PMT. Something about them consuming the energy of an atlas rocket every second just to maintain speed. Yeah.

So if you want to change your posts or anything before I reply, that'd be cool.

AHHHH noooo. No supercav?! You can't do this to me!!!! What about supercav torpedoes?
New Empire
12-09-2005, 22:32
OOC: Those are fine. You can't really ignore 1970s Russian tech. You guys can edit your posts, I've got some stuff to do (ie: homework and a vegetive, Contac induced TV-trance) so I may not be replying till tomorrow.
Markov
12-09-2005, 22:40
OOC: post changed*
G-corp
13-09-2005, 00:01
OOC: Sorry to crash your party Thrashia, but like I said, I RP at 2030 tech now. If you guys really can't go on without space, I'll see if I can dig up my old stuff from when I stopped using FT several months ago.

OOC:wait NE i wont be using my fleet except for the use of orbital droping of my anubises which are already dropped so i wont be using it anymore is that ok if not thats fine too i will just have them dropped via high altitude transports which will pretty much be just the same thing. Another issue is that if any of your allied nations come to help using aerospace units or supercav we will then be using them becasue it would not be fare if we cannot use it just because you arent yet your freindly natuions are keep that in mind when making this decision but well figure it all out in a second TG me if u want to talk in private and sort it all out that way thank u
Markov
13-09-2005, 03:04
Secret IC:
Un-official::Communique to Berliston>>The New Empirian President>>
From: President John R. Stillen of The Republic of Markov

Mr. President, as I write this, I cannot express to you in words how truly sorry I am. It was not my decision to commence hostile actions against the UCSNE. As I could have stopped this from happening, it wasn't practical because then I would have been removed from power. It was in the best interest of the Markovian people for me to stay in power simply so I could get this message to you. You see, I do not believe my alliance is capable of winning this. My coleages are under the brainwashed impression that our new army is invincible. But I know better. I have seen New Empirian forces in combat before and I know that even if we do manage to reach your capital, your allies will just push us back. In the event that Markovian forces are pushed back to our own borders, I would want Markov to come under New Empirian control. We would not put up a fight, I would simply want your governement to take contol of mine. No more lives should be lost over this pointless conflict. Until then, our forces have no choice but to push forward against you and your allies. This conflict will continue on as if you never recieved this message. Niether my government nor my alliance have any knowledge of this message. Please consider my request.
--Signed president John R. Stillen--
http://www.freewebs.com/markov/Markovlogo18.JPG
Markov
13-09-2005, 03:56
OOC: I had said in my previous post that my President was against the war. It's just that he can't do anything about it.
G-corp
13-09-2005, 03:58
OOC:ahh now i understand my mistake carry on
Thrashia
13-09-2005, 22:52
OOC: G-Corp our purposes are one in the same concerning our fleets. I mearly have my space mobile suits as a precaution. Thats why I had 300 space Leos off-loaded and another 300 ground ones loaded onto my fleet, if you read my rp post closely, because I was expecting this to be a ground war.

I am still awaiting to see if I will be even to use my army, after all it is 99% made of Mobile Suits, so if NE can't dig up anything FT then I might have to sit this one out.
G-corp
13-09-2005, 23:38
OOC: yes i see so you wont be using your space fleet for war purposes i see that is the same with me but i am hoping that he will be able to pull something up otherwise i will be kind of stuck but yea i am pretty much waiting for him o post as well as markov to contact me i havent heard from either of them for a while...
New Empire
14-09-2005, 01:53
OOC: Sorry guys, I can't find any of my FT stuff (All on another hard drive from a computer several months deceased).

I still have no problem with using things like the hypersoar (http://www.llnl.gov/str/Carter.html) or SDI satellites, I dunno about mechs though... As long as you don't claim they're always better than tanks or fighters (I mean, a mech has more surface area than a tank, so less armor for the same weight), I guess I could allow that.

Post coming when I make a map so you know where I'm talking about.
G-corp
14-09-2005, 02:08
OOC: Sorry guys, I can't find any of my FT stuff (All on another hard drive from a computer several months deceased).

I still have no problem with using things like the hypersoar (http://www.llnl.gov/str/Carter.html) or SDI satellites, I dunno about mechs though... As long as you don't claim they're always better than tanks or fighters (I mean, a mech has more surface area than a tank, so less armor for the same weight), I guess I could allow that.

Post coming when I make a map so you know where I'm talking about.

OOC:so does this mean i will or will not be able to use my orbital drop of my anubises thats just about the only thingi will be using for orbit the rest is on the ground and sea and air...
Markov
14-09-2005, 02:20
OOC: Sorry guys, I can't find any of my FT stuff (All on another hard drive from a computer several months deceased).

I still have no problem with using things like the hypersoar (http://www.llnl.gov/str/Carter.html) or SDI satellites, I dunno about mechs though... As long as you don't claim they're always better than tanks or fighters (I mean, a mech has more surface area than a tank, so less armor for the same weight), I guess I could allow that.

Post coming when I make a map so you know where I'm talking about.

eh, I think you should cave to the sucav stuff. You were able to use it in your previous wars against us. I think we should be able to just for the sake of the rp.
G-corp
14-09-2005, 02:49
eh, I think you should cave to the sucav stuff. You were able to use it in your previous wars against us. I think we should be able to just for the sake of the rp.


OOC:i formally agree with the nation of markov it is just a tad unrealistic that you were able to use it before and not now...
New Empire
14-09-2005, 21:05
OOC: Problem is, I can't RP supercav ships... Again, I dumped those after the ships when the sub guys at the OMP tore them apart... If you want you can still use the bigger, capital-sized subs, just without supercavitation.

Here's the map:

http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/2080/map3gn.gif

Just tell me which coast you're attacking, and I can finish the post (where the numbers will be explained)
Markov
14-09-2005, 21:47
OOC:
Actually, we weren't going to attack the coast yet. We were hoping to confront your fleet first.
New Empire
14-09-2005, 23:05
OOC: I know, I meant the coastal cities. Since your fleets are concentrated, my nation would be too big for you to launch torpedoes or cruise missiles at every port city from one direction.
Commandia
14-09-2005, 23:32
OOC: Hmmm.... I still don't know which to join... But i'll just come in now. If you find my numbers too large i'll be happy to decrease them. Note that the falcons/raptors are located inside the capital/assault ships and can be released at any time.

Searching for sattlelite uplink...
Uplink found.
Sattelite SA-139 contacted.
Recipents: Markov and New Empire
Beggining transmission:

Attention Markov/New Empire officials,
We have a small fleet floating in space in the smack center of the space between your two territories. This fleet can go to the benefit of New Empire, or to the benefit of Markov. So far we will remain neutral but may decide to join either side. This fleet consists of:
35 capital ships (http://www.the-chaos-crew.com/swrpg/pics/ships/battleship.gif)
75 standard assault ships (http://www.piett.org/cult/isd.jpg)
175falcons (http://www.theforce.net/swtc/Pix/chron/tieint.jpg)
150 raptors (http://www.starshipmodeler.com/starwars/md_A-wing_01.jpg)
This fleet shall remain idle until a descision is made to which side this fleet shall benefit.
With uttermost respect,

George Frederiction,
Head of Commandian defence

Steven Wright
Head of extra-terrestrial defence

David Cerama
President of the Confederate states
of Commandia

OOC: Yes, all the pictures are from star wars
Markov
15-09-2005, 00:08
OOC: Problem is, I can't RP supercav ships... Again, I dumped those after the ships when the sub guys at the OMP tore them apart... If you want you can still use the bigger, capital-sized subs, just without supercavitation.

Here's the map:

http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/2080/map3gn.gif

Just tell me which coast you're attacking, and I can finish the post (where the numbers will be explained)

Ok, so how do I read your map? What are those red splotches?
G-corp
15-09-2005, 00:12
Ok, so how do I read your map? What are those red splotches?

Im actually baffled myself this isn't a very well disigned i mean where are the names and other things....
New Empire
15-09-2005, 00:17
OOC: Red is anything man made. Not all of them are cities. Most of the ones on the coast are. Again, the map will be further explained in the post. Just choose the North, South, or West coast as the one your fleets are closest too, and I can finish the post.
Markov
15-09-2005, 00:21
OOC: our fleet is closest to the northern coast.
New Empire
15-09-2005, 02:09
OOC: Now the map can be explained fully

Firstly, that random red stripe on the bottom represents about 1000 miles.

-unnumbered (look north of 1): This is the 'dead zone' from Markovian nuclear strikes on Desthein. Most of the radiation blew out to sea, but this 100 mile circle is inhabited only by research scientists. However, the military has also created extensive military bases outside this area due to its cliff-like beaches. Many underground submarine pens and other facilities can be found in the area.
1. Berliston-Old Imperial City State: A massive city, with over 120 million people. Using carefully constructed 'megastructures' that are virtual cities in themselves. This is the capital of the nation.
2. Halisfavon: A major port city, that has picked up much of the slack from Desthein's loss in the 1st Markovian War. It has heavy shipbuilding and naval industries, including artificial islands to accomadate construction of larger vessels.
3. Point Dasch: A second port city, not quite as large but more active in international trade. Many corporations are headquartered here.
4. Obersek: Another coastal city. About the size of New York.
5. Poseidon-Geverston Metropolitan Axis: Hundreds upon hundreds of miles of city. Bigger than the capital in size, but not population. Very heavily militarized, it is another big city for corporations. (Geverston is a corrupted version of the 'gun town' name given by its Dutch and German settlers)
6. Peringeln: A city of 20 million, it lies at the base of the Peringeln Mountains. Nearby are many large mining areas, and there is a significant automotive factory complex nearby that also produces tanks and other armored vehicles.
7. Northpeak: Another port city, Northpeak is the headquarters of the Northern Fleet Command. It exports many minerals and metals from the Peringeln mines.
8. Paquat: A large sized city, famous as a tourist attraction. Deep fjords here also mean it has a good sized submarine base.
9. Mohres: Another famous tourist attraction, and nearby is a larger than usual air force base.
10. Polstadt: Located on the edge of the 'Amber Sea' (Think great plains), Polstadt is really just one giant factory, though the town of the same name is located on the Polstadt River, where both products from the factory complex and the farms are shipped to the north on barges.
11. Finastadt: A large city about the size of Philadelphia.
12. Koltascus City: Located in the heart of the mountain range of the same name, this is a huge mining area.
13. Harsdad: A mideastern city in the 'Amber Sea'.
14. Golsteif: Similar to Harsdad, though it is a major army base as well, home to many heavy-armor units in the military.
15. Stobald: A medium sized port city in the southeast.

(In general, most cities have some offshore platforms to handle excess trade and military activities, as well as the capability to house units of the air force for homeland defense).
(Also, I didn't make the list just now, I wrote it a while back, so there may be some minor differences between what the map and the list say and what I write now, since I had to draw a new map for the list.)
IC:

[The Northern Coast]

The torpedoes came hard and fast. Fortunately, the UCSNE had the foresight to lay a defensive system against enemy subs out around the ports, while it did not detect the subs that launched these long range torpedo, it did detect the torpedoes themselves. AHSUM cannon fired supercavitating shells at the torpedo, intercepting many. But for many cities, it was not enough.

[Finastadt]

The defensive network here was not as extensive, and the difficult, fish filled waters around here made it exceptionally hard to track the quieter torpedo. A freighter, now unknown, was unlucky enough to be hit as it left its dock.

It simply vaporized.

A massive cloud of expanding gas, trillions of bubbles all rising towards the surface, and a giant wave of pressure extending outward were all spawned by this single weapon. Every ship in harbor rode the wave directly into port. A longshoreman was surprised to see a supertanker, like an obscene parody of a surfer, wipe out the port he was on. He did not live long enough to consider the peculiarity of such a thing. Everything on the waterfront ceased to exist. A LNG tanker slammed through a skyscraper before exploding and incinerating what was left of the financial district. People ran fleeing as water rolled down the streets. Chaos ensued afterwards. 66% of the city was simply gone or heavily damaged, and the rest was fleeing. But it wasn't even over yet.

With the massive pressure wave created by the blast, the ports anti-sub defenses ceased to be, and the rest of the weapons were free to work their deadly tasks. In the midst of the evacuation, the multiple blasts were projected to kill or wound 80% of the city, or roughly 1.2 million people, with the remaining in dire need of shelter and supplies.

All this in the span of 45 minutes.

As a city, Finastadt was gone with the radioactive tide.

Other cities were luckier. Torpedoes were prematurely detonated, causing some flooding, but thankfully the angling of the coasts and fjords pevented much of the damage. Even so, within two hours of the war's beginning in New Empire, about 1.3 million people were dead.

[Berliston-Old Imperial City State]

Martial law was declared, but the nation was not angry with itself. As defenses were increased and supplies were stocked up, emotions were clearly set in one direction: Against Markov. Old feelings were rekindled, and the nation united. In the massive city of Berliston, a night of blackness was still a scary thing though, even if you knew crime rates would be dropping. Just utter blackness, the lights of 120 million people shut out to hamper enemy attackers that did not come, for tonight at least.

President Jan Smit surveyed it all as the EB-15 bomber took off. He was inside it, using a standard military plane flying towards the Central Mountain range rather than the official Presidential airliner.

He clenched his fist as his aide read off casualty reports, his voice wavering. All these years of isolationist policies by the goddamn centrists... What had it done the nation? The Nationalist Alliance simply couldn't reverse the trends of the old Centrist Party, its 20 years of virtual government domination. Perhaps God had given this to him. But his faith in God had been shaken since he watched Deshtain, and now Finastadt obliterated by atomics. Whatever man had done to deserve the flood, how could it possibly exceed this horror? The horror of three wars before this that had precipitated all this violence? This war would be different. With the Northern fleet heavily damaged, the Markovians could easily seize a foothold on the Northern coast. The enemy fleet outnumbered Arch Fleet Strategos Polgrant's remaining Northern Fleet Command by about 2-1. You could argue that citizens of New Empire had better equipment and training because of a longer seafaring tradition... But this was madness. The enemy had surprised them, and 1.3 million men and dozens of heavily armed naval ships dropped dead on the first strike. The NEODEN grid though, had done well. Missiles had been targeted through space based radar and intercepted by ground stations. And despite the ASAT barrage, 75% of the satellites were still operational. So it was not a total loss on all fronts. But it seemed nothing could eclipse the magnitude of the destruction, the fact that so many New Empire citizens could set out for work, and by they had pulled into their parking garage, find that more than a million people had been killed.

You can't work your mind around numbers that large in a span that fast. It just seems insane. But that's what war was.

F-121F 'Ghost' interceptors were all up and down the Northern Coast, hundreds of them in several wings were always on constant patrol. Their job was to look for enemy bombers and fighters. Lieutenant James Emerson was scannning frequencies from his WSO position, looking for any peculiar signal that would alert them to a Markovian attack. They tuned into the government channel. Emergency procedure warnings followed by a repeat of Smit's address, doubtless delivered from the inside of some bunker in the Central Mountain Range. The words that had been heard so many times before still hadn't lost punch when you considered their implication.

"... We will fight them at sea, and to defend our nation we will decorate the ocean floor with the hulls of their ships. We will fight them in the air, and to defend our nation, anything they send up to the sky, we will send down to hell. And if we must, we will fight them on the ground, be it among the evergreen forests or the Amber Sea, where we will fertilize our grain on the invaders' blood. Because this is not just another conflict one can dismiss as someone elses' problem. This is a war. A war at home where the frontline is as far as the eye can see..."

He instinctively looked out for what must have been the thousandth time in the day. Nothing but dark night around him, lights off on virtually everything except the highways. It was ground he learned to fly over, practiced over, took his kids flying over in his Piper Cub. And now he was fighting so that he could do those things. And then the warning light lit up.

Encrypted radio bursts in a 1028-bit code: They'd detected Markovian stealth bombers approaching the coasts via OTH-B radars. Targeting coordinates flooded his visor as the fighters accelerated. Keeping their own radars off, this time the surprise would be theirs: The Markovians wouldn't know what hit them.

Towards every bomber dozens of AIM-124 Divinebolt missiles screeched off on scramjets, electronic brains crossreferencing the enemy bombers with other radars through the combat network to avoid jamming or falling for decoys. This war was electronic at its core, Emerson thought has he called off "Fox Three" for each of his plane's missiles, other aircraft and SAM sites doing the same. It was like a ritual chant filling the cockpit. So many missiles. They'd certainly be able to hurt the Markovians now: Hurt them bad. But they could, at most, shoot down a bunch of attack aircraft. Not quite the revenge you want when a million people of your own have been killed. But there was satisfaction, there was adrenaline. There was no mistaking it: This was going to be a bloody, vicious war.

--As the battle continued, the 275 ships of the Northern Fleet Command that were fit for duty mobilized. They wouldn't engage the enemy yet, but they were ready for battle.--
OOC: G-corp, where in my nation will your men be landing?

And that's it. Now you know why it took me so long to post :P . A few minutes of writing each day gets you a lot of post to sift through.
Markov
15-09-2005, 02:25
OOC: what about the rods of god I fired from the orbital bombers? Surely they hit something.
New Empire
15-09-2005, 02:28
OOC: Oh, I forgot about those.

But now that I think about it, being in geosynic orbit would put you near a lot of my killersats... I guess we can RP some kind of low-tech space war between your orbital bomber and my defense network... Sound good?
Sambizie
15-09-2005, 03:08
The Emperor sat emotionless as the words of the current events in and around USNE were whispered in his ear. Mwto'ar reached for his pen and then began to write on a piece of paper. He carefully sealed the envelope and handed it to his advisor with a slite nod and a wave of his hand....


~TAG~
Markov
15-09-2005, 03:46
IC:
The Markovian bombers flew under fighter escort at high altitude over the remnants of Finastadt. They took pictures of the damge and relayed it back to fleet command. They flew west to Polstadt. Their mission was to level the factory complex as it was suspected by Markovian intelligence to be a major supply center for the New Empirian army. As the 35 stealth bombers reached their target, the RADAR began to pick up enemy missiles.

Captain John Moran of the lead bomber was the first to see the missiles.
"We have multiple contacts closing in fast on our current position! Engage counter measures!"

The unmanned fighter escorts turned towards the missiles and targeted them with short range hypervelocity missiles. Some of the UCAVs actually put themselves in front of the incomming missiles. the HELLADS platforms on the bombers became active. They began targeting the missiles individually, but in the end there were just too many of them. While a significant amount of the missiles were taken down, 10 bombers were lost and a huge chunk of the fighter escort was gone. The bombers increased speed and altitude. Their target was in range.

Concealed weapons bays opened revealing a huge arsenal of weapons on the remaining bombers. The bomberes opened fire on the factory complex with plasma yield precision bombs and low yield nuclear cruise missiles. The bombers stick around the area for risk of being attack by New Empirian aircraft. Some of the Ghostbird UCAVs departed the bomber group and set their sights on the F-121F interceptors. Intelligence had indicated that mutiple New Empirian fighter wings may be in the area, so an encryped data burst was sent to fleet command requesting addition air support.

The bombers left the Polstadt area and headed toward Mohres. They were to hit the popular tourist attaction and the airbase nearby and then return to the fleet.
--
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Back at the fleet, Admiral Greylock had recieved the OK from New Antioch to proceed into New Empirian waters. The huge fleet moved forward to the coast near Finastadt. They had been assured that there was no New Empirian naval presence in the area. Nontheless, the fleet remained at high alert. The Admiral was pleased at the first damage reports coming in from the bombers.

He gave the order to dispatch four wings of the new MF-98D variant air superiority fighters to help the bombers.

He was, very disapointed at the lack of damgae to the SDI network. He ordered that another few vollies of hypervelocity ASAT missiles be fired from the super dreadnaughts. It was nearly dawn and the morale among the seamen was good. The missiles burst from their comparments into the morning sky.

The carrier commander, Captain Newark, after hearing news of the downed bombers had recommended to Greylock that they be brought back to the carriers. Greylock elected to hit Mohres and then bring them back. He knew that he have to take care ouf the rest of the coastline though.

Five Providence class nuclear submarines departed the main fleet and traveled westward on their caterpillar drives. They were to meet up with the fleet in Finastadt later that day where G-corp forces were preparing to land troops. They stopped in extemely deep waters 35 miles off the coast between Northpeak and Paquat. As they had done earlier in the day, the subs targeted both cities with plasma yield and low yield nuclear supercav "sicem" torpedos. Ten vollies were fired from the subs. More torpedoes were aimed at Northpeak as a primary objective was to disable Northern Fleet Command. The subs surfaced and opened up their VLS cells. They targeted the interior of the cities with nuclear yield SLAM missiles. 75 missiles are fired. The sub submerge again and head back to the fleet.
--
<<High orbit over New Empire>>

The RSB-200L Stealth orbital bombers had just finshed their firing cycles as they realized they were not alone in space. The ASAT missiles had taken out too few satellites in the SDI network and they were now under attack by the killer sats. One bomber was immediatly lost. They came to their senses and began to drop into low orbit under the SDI network. They re-organized and opened up on the killer sats with their HELLADS systems.
--
The Armadas had nearly reached Finastadt when Greylock recieved a encrypted message from New Antioch. StratComm had elected not to land Markovian troops via beachead. They had instead elected to use a new space-capable troop transport to drop them in the New Empirian interior to reinforce G-corp postions directly when necessary. StratComm had therefore ordered all Amphibious assualt ships carrying ground troops and equipment to be sent back to Markov. Greylock felt that a huge burden had been lifted. He was in no way prepared to lead that troop deployment--he was a seaman, not a General.
--
G-corp
15-09-2005, 03:46
OOC:NE my Anubises landed via dropship and orbital drop in low orbit above ur nation in your capital Berliston...im going to make a post for that tomorrow when im at school and have nothing to do...

IC:G-corp heavy low level anti matter bomber "Nightwing" second air wing,green wing, "this is green two to green one permission to scout ahead, over?" "green two this is green one thats a roger that on scouting mission, green four i want you to go with him on this one, this isn't like the simulations any more this is the real thing over?" "this is green four roger that over..." green one the wing commander, this was the name he had been given before he had left the aircraft carrier not 10 minutes ago, his mission was to hunt down and destroy any and all patrolling enemy aircraft in the area that was now known as "dead space 11" he didnt expect too much resistance in this area but he would regret seeing what devastaion had been caused here during the first assault...he had currently 10 Libra class heavy assault interceptors at his command...he knew that they would be enough to take on any foe they faced...*radio static*"this isred one to green one do you copy over?" "this is green one go ahead red one over" "green one it looks like my bomber squadron has been assaigned to your wing sir..." "red one thats a ten four on form up welcome to green wing...take up position behind our wing over" "this is red one thats a ten four taking up position behind your wing...uhh sir it looks like you are already missing two fighters is that a bad thing? over." "that's a negative on that red one they are scouting ahead and i dont expect to..." "*radio static* "sir this is green two to green one do you copy over?" "this is green one here whats your status?? over" "well sir lots of wreckedge and ships on the shoreline...nothing else to report at this time over and out..." "green two copy that looks like G-corp is about ready to land there troops look they already have mobile bases being set up..."

G-corp Super dreadnought Athena holding position just offshore of the NE town of Finastadt."sir were ready to begin landing..." the lieutenant said."very good begin launching troop transports to secure a location for our mobile encampment..." the captain said.as the captain looked out of his bridge window he saw hundreds of transports carrying the first official wave for land engagement in this long war...he also noticed that there were many many Heracles trooptransports/gunships lunching as well.... they would be on the shore in no time and with the city that was once there being destroyed in an instant...they would have no trouble taking it and setting up a forward command post for the rest of the military to come in...they would have a foothold on this nation in no time...

G-corp assault on Finastadt, the troops hit the beach almost minutes after they were dispatched from there naval warcraft..."o my god waht happend to this town" said one of the regulars..."i heard that this city was destroyed in under a minute..." another said."it doesnt matter how long it took to destroy it...waht matters is that we get a forward command post up and operational immedietly..."the commander barked...he had not reached the shore before he saw bodies floating lifelessly, complete homes missing, buildings gone, random sea craft strewn about like they were no more than a brick..."ok boys how long will it take to set this thing up??" "about 20 minutes sir..."a corporal said."ok good things are on schedule"about 20 minutes passed and the command post got set up...there were a few gunfights but not enough to cause a rucus...they had also found some civilians but had pliced any harmful objects that they might have gotten to defend themselves strapped them up and put them aboard the transport craft for evac to a secured location...after all was said and done they made radio contact with the Athena and were on standby for further orders...

total troops landed-40,000 Light Infantry http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/bean89032/Tanks%20and%20ground%20units/CivilProtection.jpg
-5,000 Whalem APC's
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/bean89032/Tanks%20and%20ground%20units/APC.jpg
-2,500 Zues heavy assault tank
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b229/bean89032/Tanks%20and%20ground%20units/zues.jpg
Thrashia
15-09-2005, 09:05
"Operation Shooting Star comencing sir," said the communications officer. Admiral Schwartz stood with his hands behind his back looking out into space.

"You made sure that we came up from the Southern hemisphere correct Hanz?" he asked another crewman. A young man, his Thrashian Fleet uniform in perfect order, turned.

"Yes Admiral, I took the liberty to send four Escort Ships to the North Quadrant, they should be taking any enemy attention of us long enough to land our troops."

"Good, comms get me Colonel Weimar."


Colonel Weimar finished strapping himself into his special command type Aries Mobile Suit. QUickly he brought his computer online. He was just running diagnostics when a pict display opened and Admiral Schwartz's face appeared.

"Colonel, I'm calling to wish you luck and god speed. And you can rely on the Fleet to keep supplies and reinforcements coming."

"Thankyou Admiral, lucky for us we will have enough supplies to remain unsupported for four months. Beyond that Admiral we will need you. I recommend sending a messege back to Thrashia and requesting more fleet assistance, as well as more back-up for my ground troops."

"Of course Colonel, I will look into it. Now, my specialists in sattalite imaging has selected a drop point for you and your men. Thanks to the Omega-class Transport we are able to drop your entire army in one quick drop."

"Thanks a relief, wheres the drop point?" asked Weimar.

"Around the city Golstief, its in the center of the New Empire and from there I believed that you could then choose when to engage the enemy. Also Golstief happens to be a command center for several NE heavy units, they could give you assistance should you need it. Farewell Colonel." Shcwarts saluted. Weimar payed the respect back.

"You too Admiral. Just keep it coming." The image closed and Weimar opened communications with the rest of 30 Aries mobile suits in his transport.

"Alright men, this it it. We're not going to be making a hot landing but stay on your toes. Once we reach 3,000 feet, we will be dropping out and making air cover for the Leos and other transports. Got it?" a chorus of Yes sirs sounded off.

"Good, then lets do this."


The huge form of the Omega shot just into the NE air space and opened up several dozen lard side panel doors. From them issued over 400 transports. Several Space Leos hovered around them and led them into the atmosphere, keeping watch for the enemy fleet or fighters.

By 2400 NE time all Thrashian forces had landed successfully.
G-corp
15-09-2005, 15:59
"Operation Shooting Star comencing sir," said the communications officer. Admiral Schwartz stood with his hands behind his back looking out into space.

"You made sure that we came up from the Southern hemisphere correct Hanz?" he asked another crewman. A young man, his Thrashian Fleet uniform in perfect order, turned.

"Yes Admiral, I took the liberty to send four Escort Ships to the North Quadrant, they should be taking any enemy attention of us long enough to land our troops."

"Good, comms get me Colonel Weimar."


Colonel Weimar finished strapping himself into his special command type Aries Mobile Suit. QUickly he brought his computer online. He was just running diagnostics when a pict display opened and Admiral Schwartz's face appeared.

"Colonel, I'm calling to wish you luck and god speed. And you can rely on the Fleet to keep supplies and reinforcements coming."

"Thankyou Admiral, lucky for us we will have enough supplies to remain unsupported for four months. Beyond that Admiral we will need you. I recommend sending a messege back to Thrashia and requesting more fleet assistance, as well as more back-up for my ground troops."

"Of course Colonel, I will look into it. Now, my specialists in sattalite imaging has selected a drop point for you and your men. Thanks to the Omega-class Transport we are able to drop your entire army in one quick drop."

"Thanks a relief, wheres the drop point?" asked Weimar.

"Around the city Golstief, its in the center of the New Empire and from there I believed that you could then choose when to engage the enemy. Also Golstief happens to be a command center for several NE heavy units, they could give you assistance should you need it. Farewell Colonel." Shcwarts saluted. Weimar payed the respect back.

"You too Admiral. Just keep it coming." The image closed and Weimar opened communications with the rest of 30 Aries mobile suits in his transport.

"Alright men, this it it. We're not going to be making a hot landing but stay on your toes. Once we reach 3,000 feet, we will be dropping out and making air cover for the Leos and other transports. Got it?" a chorus of Yes sirs sounded off.

"Good, then lets do this."


The huge form of the Omega shot just into the NE air space and opened up several dozen lard side panel doors. From them issued over 400 transports. Several Space Leos hovered around them and led them into the atmosphere, keeping watch for the enemy fleet or fighters.

By 2400 NE time all Thrashian forces had landed successfully.

OOC:ok number one who are you are you one of NE's allies cause if you are not then you are not allowed to post for this is asemi closed posting aread for allies only and secondly you cant post them landing succesfully because i may have fighters patrolling the area and they may have taken a few of them down you have to wait also if you are looking to drop toops in orbital our naval craft would fire at them when they are coming in with missles and electro magnetic bolt drivers so plz edit your post thank you...
Thrashia
15-09-2005, 16:59
OOC: I am his ally, the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and you will notice in the post that my fleet aproached from a different direction and hemisphere. I also mentioned sending several ships to where your fleet was to distract from my landing. Also I landed in the middle of his country. In the middle. Your on the coast, some...2,000 miles away according to his map, what is your fighter range? I don't believe its that great. And missiles are not made to be able to follow transports into the atmosphere, the heat is too great on entry. So that rules out your wanting to shoot missiles at me. Also I had some several hundred Space Mobile suits out covering the transports on entry.

So...I find no way in which you could have interfered except to get there late.
G-corp
15-09-2005, 20:18
OOC:Thrashia...you are not allowed to use your space fleet other than orbital drop in which case your ships would come into the atmosphere and then drop them but if you are dropping them from high orbit in space that is unacceptable we agreed in the begining of this war that we would not be using that method of entering....plz edit your post now...
Thrashia
15-09-2005, 20:21
OOC: I am not using my fleet in the war, they are delivery boys, not soldiers in this rp. I live on a completely different planet, what I am suppose to do? Say that a instant portal opened and my army marched through it and onto NE land?

You have to give me an opening for me to be able to rp correctly for this. And so far my fleet acting only as delivery boys is working. I didn't mention anything about space combat. if you mean my ships distracting you, thats just distracting you, not entering into combat.

you are not allowed to use your space fleet other than orbital drop

I already explained. And how am I suppose to get them from space to earth without coming from high orbit dammit?
G-corp
15-09-2005, 20:23
OOC:ok fine whatever you can use it...
Thrashia
15-09-2005, 20:27
“This is Leo Patrol 262, sector A1 is clear Colonel.” Three Leo mobile suits scanned the surrounding area where one of the drop ships had landed. Weimar’s Aries hovered overhead. “Good Lieutenant, have your company offloaded and set up a perimeter of 4 km in all directions. This will be our base camp for the time being, until we can find a more defensible spot.”

“Yes sir.” The other Leos of the lieutenant’s company began being unloaded from the transport. Weimar shifted his screen view to the left; several dozen other transports were doing the same.

Another pict screen opened up on Weimar’s display. “Colonel, I have our landing report. All transports reached the ground in and around the city. Three transports were damaged slightly on atmospheric entry. As far as we know, the enemy did not spot our landing, other than the heat trails that could be seen from space by the enemy’s fleet.”

“Thank you Major Jaeger, have all brigades center on the area I have selected to be our rally point. Once all brigades are accounted for and assembled I will begin to deploy you each. Have you managed to get in contact with the local New Empire commander?” Weimar asked.

“Yes sir, there is a local NE colonel who wishes to speak to you. One of my Zakus almost had a bad run in with a NE heavy tank,” Jaeger smiled ruefully. Weimar nodded. “Very well Major, continue on and make sure Captains Zander and Fauss report in with their Special Unit companies. I will need to brief them directly.”

“Yes sir, Jaeger out.”


Within two days the Thrashian Second Army had assembled at Colonel Weimar’s rally point. The area was slightly congested with parked Leos. To keep the enemy from sending bombers or other air forces Weimar kept at least one company of Aries in the air at all time, to discourage any inconvenience from the enemy.

The local commander of NE forces had been more than a little unhappy about the area around the city to be used as Weimar’s base, but eventually let him anyway when Weimar told him that his army was here in support of the NE and not against it. After speaking with the NE colonel he went back to his command tent. Inside both Captain Zander and Fauss were standing inside.

Zander was a tall muscular man with deep black eyes and matching hair; he was also unusually quiet for someone who was the best Tallgeese pilot in the 2nd Army. Fauss was the exact opposite as you could be from Zander. He was short and lanky, seeming to look weak; but Weimar knew for a fact that Fauss was simply acting, he was the best Zaku sniper specialist in all the Thrashian army, when not in active combat he was the instructor at the military’s training academy. His silver gray hair and equally gray emotionless eyes added to his act.

“Hello Captains.” They both came to attention and saluted with perfect parade ground stance. “Sir!” Weimar smiled and saluted back. “At-ease Captains, I’m glad you were both able to report so quickly.”

“We’re here as ordered sir,” said Zander. Fauss nodded. Neither man was very sociable, each had clocked more mobile suit piloting time than any other man in the army. Their men in the special unit were also similar in that respect. Because of their class as Special Unit captains they were allowed to choose their men, instead of being assigned men. This meant that the men under their command were more able to react and fight according to the expectations of each captain. Thus far Weimar had not seen how the system had failed.

“Indeed. I have a special assignment for you two.” They both seemed to perk up. “You Zander, I want you to take your men and determine the enemy strength and position, I need all the information you can give me.” Zander nodded. Weimar turned to Fauss. “You Sniper Fauss will do what you do best. I want you and your long range beam rifles taking a toll on the enemy’s ships and heavy equipment. According to the reports I received from the local NE commander, the G-Corp military has landed troops several hundred miles north on the coast. If you both take your men and transports tonight you can be there by night tomorrow.”

Both men nodded, then went to attention and saluted. “Yes sir,” said Zander. He turned and left. Fauss smiled with a chilling look in his eye. “Mission accepted Sir.” Fauss turned and sauntered out of Weimar’s command tent. Weimar felt a slight chill even though it was warm. Shaking it off, he went over to his desk and sat down before a series of maps and reports from his Brigade commanders. He pored over the maps and began devising a strategy for his army to take.

Three transports took off from the rally point and headed north as the sun rose.
New Empire
15-09-2005, 21:17
OOC: Remember guys, Finastadt is filled with radiation, so you won't be abel to set up too much there, or it will contaminate your supplies. And you won't be able to surprise attack Northpeak, since the 200+ ships of the Northern Fleet are based there. But more on that later.

And Thrasia, this has to be kept to realistic levels. Beam weapons and space warships more advanced than a killersat or a hypersoar aren't really gonna happen at this tech level (2030). I'd like to hear what Markov and the other side has to say about mechs though, and if they're willing to RP against them.
IC:

[Over Berliston proper]

The SBR detected multiple inbound objects: Nothing could fly into the capital without the heavy defensive systems noticing it. Immediately, the city's 'Megalith' ABM/Air Defense Platforms opened up. The ODP pods wouldn't be able to manuver during their descent (lest they risk killing their occupants through G-Forces). The 24 150 MW lasers of one of the Megalith East opened up on the drop pods, firing beams powerful enough to roast the occupant of a drop pod or drop ship to a crisp. Meanwhile, the dropships were engaged by 24 F-121 interceptors. They'd made a mistake in trying to drop directly into the city, which was defended against ICBMs, cruise missile, and air attacks. They wouldn't be able to get all of the drop pods, but since the G-corp carriers were thousands of miles away, the dropships were defenseless against the relentless assaults of the F-121.

They would not be able to shoot down all of the ODP, but they could seriously damage their numbers before they even landed. Radar calculated the drop area, and immediately units of the Intervention Force were readied. Two full companies of men (roughly 200 troops), transported through Armored Personnel Carrier and multirole helicopter would move to surround the drop area. The G-Corp men would not get very far into the capital.

--

[Outside Finastadt]

The refugees were practically fleeing now, across emerald fields that were soaked with rain. It came down heavily, but it was a good thing: It was non contaminated water. The highways were closed off as the men of the Janissary Divisions were readied.

The 45th and 118th Mechanized Infantry and 88th Armored Divisons were based at towns deeper into the evergreen belt between this area and the Amber Sea, but many had friends and relatives in Finastadt. Nobody in New Empire would cooperate with the enemy. The fact they targeted civilians with nuclear weapons showed they cared nothing about the common man, only that they wanted to kill. But fighting for their lives, the men of New Empure would want it a lot more.

The three divisions had about 240 M15A3 Lionhound II Main Battle Tanks, along with double that in armored personnel carriers, and even more trucks. Most of the infantry would be fighting on foot so the full resources of the unit hadn't been mobilized, but it still left them with about 20,000 regular infantrymen. They would set up 50 miles outside of Finastadt, on the rolling green hills that overlooked the city and the valley it was in. Artillery was set up, along with the defensive perimeter. But first, there had to be something to be done about that superdreadnought.

In command of this was Strategos William 'Willy' Fitzpatrick. The area around here had been named 'New Scotland' after its striking similarity to the country, and many British islanders had emigrated here over the centuries. He wasn't a young man, no, he'd actually fought the 2nd Markovian war. Looking through the camera of a UAV circling the city, he decided how he would tackle this problem.

There would be no naval support, that was for sure. NorFleetCom would be busy as shit up in Northpoint, adn the Air Force was trying to defend from Markovian bomber raids. This would require a bit of creative disobedience.

He stepped out of the command bunker the combat engineers had erected, looking over the trench network, and then at the G9 Self Propelled Coil-Howitzer. The generator/ammunition trailer behind it hummed as the gun crew sat in their fighting holes, seeking shelter from the raid.

Then it hit him.

He picked up his command headset and tapped into one of his platoon commanders.

"Wallis? It's me. Get your boys packed up and head back to our ammo dump. There's something I need you to get."

The three trucks drove through the highways, packed with abandoned cars that had run out of gas and the families in them. Civilians waved to the soldiers, happy to see their fighting men. The soldiers waved back and a few threw MREs out, but the trucks didn't stop.

In another 20 minutes they were at the armory, still guarded by Military police. Farther out in the complex was a major refugee camp, but this area was off limits to most. The trucks were waved through the gates as an MP asked a soldier what was happening.

"Shit, you guys need stuff already? What's going on up there?"

"The fuckers are landed, but pretty much every civilian is out of the city. We haven't done shit, but thats about to change."

Wallis exited from a seperate truck, pulling off his rain poncho hood as he flashed an ID.

"I need a key to the special weapons room."

"Wait, I need autho-"

"Come on man, standard paper work went up with the nukes. It's time to get some shit done. We're gonna hit those bastards hard."

The MP nodded and sent a subordinate to get the key. The bunker was normal looking, though with a huge amount of security. They walked through the assortment of weapons until they found what they were looking for.

"I need all of these in the trucks. ALRIGHT MEN, LOAD 'EM UP!"

The crates said "Tactical Variable Yield, 4 Units Model M1010." and little else. They were extremely heavy, but soon enough the trucks were packed. The soldiers got back on, and the MPs wished them luck as they drove back to the front lines around Finastadt.

The four gun G9 battery was readied. It had a range of 300 miles, since it used a shipping-container sized Pebblebed Reactor to power its electromagnetic gun. The smaller shells, combined with a higher power ratio, could outrange the guns of most battleships, though it lacked a lot of power conventionally. However, these four guns weren't being loaded with conventional shells.

The enemy had already escalated to nuclear level before war was declared, so now was the time to relatiate. These nuclear shells were much smaller than anything used by the Markovians against Finastadt, less than a kiloton of power. But it would be more than enough to sink a ship, even a superdreadnought. The gun batteries were small, and quite hard to detect, so their first strike would have to be powerful because it would be the only time they'd have the advantage of surprise.

The gun crew and autoloader had already snapped the shell in.

The G9s fired, one after another, and began reloading. Their target: The Athena. The dynamics of the port meant that the vessel would be too far out for the guns to damage the troops that had landed with the nuclear weapons, but they wouldn't use nuclear weapons on their own soil. Their own sea was another matter. Damn thing was already contaminated by the first blast.

Hypersonic roars filled the air as four 6 inch projectiles were fired at the Athena. The rounds were targeted based on visual confirmation and then GPS, so the rounds would land within distance to kill the vessel. It was a sitting duck because of its size, it could not easily manuver out of the port, and even so, there would be no warning to the tiny weapons travled at Mach 8.

And then new suns were born again over Finastadt.

Each nuclear weapon was roughly a kiloton in yield. This may not seem like much, but consider that it will inflict fatalities against anything smaller than a haval vessel at 500 meters. It would be able to inflict a crippling or killing hit on the dreadnought at 100 meters, and anyone in Finastadt who happened to be looking in the direction of the ship without protective eyewear would be blinded for a few hours.

And then the three divisions prepared for combat. 3 wings of F-133 Valkyrie fighters were in the area, and began firing off missiles at the G-corp fighters. It was followed by an EB-15 bomber, the D model modified to fire Air to Air missiles. Hundreds of missiles were now streaming towards any G-corp fighters in the area. This combined with the blow to their naval vessels in Finastadt would mean G-corp would have to choose where it wanted to use its aircraft: In the fight against the carriers and fleets at Northpoint or here at Finastadt. Even if they did redirect fighters here, the extreme range would mean the UCSNE would have time to prepare before G-corp fighter or bomber reinforcements arrived from the other end of the Northern Coast.

On the other hand, the 3 divisions would now have to go up against the G-corp ground forces. Though the UCSNE held the high ground, their infantry were outnumbered. Soldiers dug in for the first ground battle of the war.

[Northern Fleet]

"Sir, TAMD Guiding Spectre has detected about 75 enemy missiles, all headed towards Northpoint. If the Markies are fighting his war the way they fought the opening strikes, they're nukes."

The commander of NorFleetCom knew he was right. His 264 ships (12 carriers, each with 2 Arsenal Ships, 3 TAMDs (They're air defense ships, tons of SAMs), 4 Unyielding Class CGNs, 6 Cunningham destroyers and 6 Skana SSNs) were the only naval vessels availible on this front to fight the Markovians. But there was nothing to do but fight when it was a war for your nation's survival.

TAMD's lit up with RIM-124 missiles, taking most out of the sky, the rest were handled by Northpoint defenses. And now for the retaliation. The subs would be handled later, their VLS racks were likely low with a barrage that large. But the vessels were ready for combat and began the fight with a barrage of 300 HyStrike missiles, Mach 7 weapons with high grade, armor piercing warheads. The nukes would be saved this time, they had plenty of missiles and there was no need to escalate things yet.

The naval battle had begun in earnest.

[Near Mohres]

The air battle was still a stalemate, each side taking losses and inflicting them. But Mohres, the popular tourist attaction, was now in the sights of the enemy. Much of it had been evacuated when they found out they were targeted by nuclear torpedoes, ones that had thankfully been intercepted, but now there would be a new threat from the air. SAM defense batteries rippled off MIM-124 missiles (If you're wondering why I use -124 so much, its the same missile but with different designation for each launcher (M for land or mobile launcher, R for naval, A for air launched), and a few squadrons of F-133 fighters roared into the air to meet the bombers. Many analysts predicted a nuclear version of the blitz- the air battle was constant, and so were the bombings, but the damage would hopefully be sustainable.

[In orbit]

Killsat 089 of the NEODEN network continued to engage the enemy bomber when the first heat warning alarm went off. A defensive HELLADS pod had targeted them, and though the satellites were protected against such things to a degree, it disabled one of the radar arrays and several solar panels. Querying the network for new targeting data, it reacquired and aimed one of its Kinetic Energy Weapons at the bomber. The KEW was a fancy name for a railgun, it simply launched a tungsten slug on a ballistic path at the bomber. It would do so every second until the bomber was destroyed, along with the 5 other satellites engaging it. The robotic satellite didn't have time to marvel at space combat, it was to conduct cold, calculating mayhem against anything that was a threat to the nation.

[In the town of Clearlake, 163 miles southwest of Finastadt]

The town was overflowing with refugees, but it wouldn't be like that for long. Those uncommitted to other affairs and who were fit for combat were mostly clustered at the town's sports fields, where a demonstration was taking place.

High school upperclassmen and other young men watched as soldiers explained battlefield tactics, survival skills, and weaponry. It wasn't a full boot camp, but it could be used for defending your home, and many of the older men present (those above 20) had already done the mandatory service, most of them in the Army reserve units. They quickly remembered the routines, and soon kids who would have been choosing a college at this time were already signing up for the Army. Trucks waited to transport those willing to fight further south for boot camp or re-indoc and equipment to fight. The rest of the town would stay to guard their homes and help the refugees from Finastadt and the surrounding areas.

Almost daily a military column of one size or another would pass, and the soldiers got a warm greeting. Women threw flowers, young boys cheered, and it seemed everyone else was waving a flag. The soldiers smiled in return as older men on the street called out with encouragement.

Morale certainly wasn't bad for a nation that had experienced nuclear devastation.

OOC: Tell me if I missed anything.
G-corp
15-09-2005, 22:09
IC:The decks of the Athena class Super dreadnought 02 were earily quiet as the 1 kiloton nuclear self propelled shell slammed into it's haul completely annhialating more than half of the mighty vessel the rest of it sinking into the ocean as if it were nothng more than a toy boat...the rest of the G-corpian fleet began to move back to join up with the Markovian fleet...

Descent of the Anubises:as the ODP's fell from the sky followed by the dropships there became a silence as NE air supperiority fighters began to pick off one then two of the dropships and the other one burst into flames but there were little dots in the sky the anubises had gotten out a few of them mauybe around 10-11 had survived and had launched there jump jets to soften the landing and got there assault rifles ready for a hard battle in the heart of NE territory...as for the single man pods they had also been shaved in numbers, a little less than half of them remained intact and actually landed but the ones that did either got irradicated by the NE troops that had been in wait or went into hiding and radio silence...things were not looking up for the Anubises...

G-corp forward command post on NE about 10 miles out of Finastadt, "sir we just lost one of our Athena class SD's..." "o my god...what the hell took it out??" "sir weve just been tasked with hunting down and annhialating some gun batteries that are off shore somewhere...this sounds pretty important sarge..." " ok rev up 3 armored divisions and 2 light infantry divisions prepare to move out keep the rest of the main force here and call to the rest of the army that we are ready to begin landing the main force..." " yes sir..." the officer replied as he radiod in 140,000 more light infantry teams, 2,000 Zues heavy tanks, 1,000 Dredge heavy artillary tanks, and 500 Colosus heavy artillary mechs...the command post had set up the 7 mile airstrip especially for the markovian fighters and bombers to land and refuel there ships so that they would be able to make long trips into the NE terrirtoy later on. As the small task force began to comb the surrounding beaches and shorlines for these enormous gun batteries the GPS had given them a good idea of where to look and what to expect, as they were searhing the area they heard a gigantic noise and then quiet..."that must be the gun sir" the private said. "yep it must be there aint nuthin around here but forests and trees lets move boys i want squad 1 and two to go for right flank and squads 3 and 4 going in the left ill take my squad and squad 6 in the middle and distract them i want one squad from each group to keep moving toward those guns and plant a HAVOK on each one and then get the hell outa there and get ready for some fireworks..." the captains gave the ok and they put there plan into action moving in on the right and left and the commander brought his squad up the middle...they began firing upon the infantry guarding the guns and lobing grenades "FIRE IN THE WHOLE!!" they began making there second approach and the squads moved in even tighter. "sir calling for armor support..." " roger that armor is on its way" justthen they heard the roars of the anti grav buttoms of the mighty Zues heavy assault tank groups that they had called in...the tanks all shuddered and began pummeling the ground forces and the infantry with light electro magnetic bolt drivers on the front of the tanks as well as there 180mm ETC cannon in the turret...

G-corp libra air supperiority squadron 3 green, this is fighter squadron green we are picking up multiple enemy fighters in bouind over..." " copy that green 1 uplinking to a satalite over" " copy that over" " uhh green 1 you have 3 wings approaching O MY GOD LOOK OUT..." jsut then hundreds of missles came out of no where and impacted nearly all of the 2 wings that were on patrol..."this is green 6 we lost greens 1-4, and 9 and 10 proceeding to engage hostile fighters over..." " copy that green 5 sending reinforcements now...good luck" the fighters begand opening up there missle pods and launching anti matter missle after hyper velocity missles in total around 55 missles were fired..."this is green 5 to all greens take down those fighters nwo prepare for close combat over"three green lights winked on his electrical board...he looked at the picture of his wife and said under his breathe " i love you baby this ones for you..." the fighters were never heard from again and none had called back or returned home the worst was feared...

OOC: NE you do realise i have more than one of those super dreadnoughts the Athena CLASS was just the ship class i actually have about 18 of those so u've only killed one just to let u kno
Markov
15-09-2005, 22:36
OOC: Did you rp the damage I did to Paquat? I also hit them with missiles and "sicem" sucav torpedoes. Also, did the "sicems" hit the Northern Fleet Command? I know you got rid of the missiles there, but what the torps?
And you still haven't given me a damage report from the Rods of God fired from the Orbital bombers. I also fired anoth round of ASAT missiles at the SDI network. Thats it.

IC:
The Markovian fleet was 70 miles from Finastadt when word reached the command dreadnaught of the fate of the Athena. Reports had also been rippling in from the nuclear submarines. Their missiles had been intercepted by the Northern Fleet and they were being fired upon.

Greylock gave the order to change course to Northpeak. The fleet and all but 10 aircraft carriers departed for the Submarine's postion. The Admiral contacted the subs and told them to pull back. This was it. This was what he was trained for: naval battles.

An hour later, Armadas I and II of the Markovian navy stopped 115 miles from the coast of Northpeak. They had sent a communique the G-corp fleet to be ready to provide support if needed. Madison class stealth destroyers and missile frigates made up the front line of the fleet followed by the super dreadnaughts.

As the fleet met up with the submarines, the first New Empirian ships began to appear on RADAR. The frogates opened up with ASM-89 Viper .7 Kt hypervelocity missiles. The missiles exploded off the frigates on their SCRAMjets. The destroyers moved forward as they were to lead the attack. The fleet continued to move forward as the frigates supplied fire support.

The submarine captians were briefed before they left Markov on the new New Empirian "Skana" class SSN. They knew that it was virtually invisible to SONAR, but they had been outfitted with MDS(material detecting sensors) much like the omnes of the MF-98s before the wa began. They too were almost completely invisible to SONAR as they were running on their caterpillar drives.
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The ten carriers that were left off the coast of Finastadt continued to provide the bombers in interior Markov with air support. The MF-98Ds had left nearly 2 hours ago and were probably meeting up with the bombers now.

The four MF-98D wings approached the bombers to find that they had no air escorts left. Captain Moran informed them that the UCAVs had engaged the F-121s about fifteen minutes ago and that they had just suffered some damage from surface to air missiles. The MF-98s took up defensive postions around the bombers. They were headed for Mohres. As the bombers activated their weapons pods and the onboard computer began choosing tagets for the plasma yield precision bombs. The first bomber began to unload its payload when it was blown out the sky.

The MF-98s scrambled. It was the Valkyrie. The F-133s were almost completely invisible to the eye, but with the help of the MDS on the MF-98s, they were visible through the WHUD. Both sides had Pallas Athena has New Empire has granted production rights to Markov after the sencond war. The MF-98s began to target the Valkyrie's incoming missiles with HELLADS. They out numbered the Valks, but New Empirians were known to be excellent pilots. The Super Phoenixes bagan to engage the Valks head on. They fired opon them with high manuever missiles and hypersonic short range missiles. They were efficient at keeping them away from the bombers. The bombers continued to carpet Mohres in munitions. (Plasma yield precision bombs)
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[High Orbit over New Empire]

The Oribital bombers continued to take on the killer sats. Another bomber had just been lost. They had recieved word that more vollies of ASAT missiles had been fired to help them out. They would arrive shortly. The bombers continued to bombard the killersats with HELLADS.
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[New Geneva Airbase, Markov]

Word had reached StratComm of the need for more prescion bomb strikes in interior New Empire. The IB-678 Stealth bombers simply could not pentrate New Empirian airspace fast enough so as not to be picked up by enemy fighters and attacked. Clearly this was a job for the "Serenity" class Hypersoar bombers.

Two hours later:
Four "Serenity" Class hypersoar bombers lifted off from New Geneva on their SCRAMjets and climbed to the atmospheric ceiling. They accerated to mach 7 towards New Empire.
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Note: The D variant of the MF-98 is slightly smaller than the A variant.
New Empire
15-09-2005, 23:19
OOC: I didn't take casualties from the torpedo since your subs would have had to sneak past my fleet (torpedoes are shorter ranged)

By the way, the missiles were fired at any surface ships in the area, my subs haven't come into firing range against yours yet.

I haven't done anything with the 'rods from god' since my killsats would begin attacking you before you got over my nation (They engage most ballistic missiles before they are 'over' New Empire).

The ASAT missiles and Paquat I'll get in my next post.
Markov
15-09-2005, 23:42
OOC: I didn't take casualties from the torpedo since your subs would have had to sneak past my fleet (torpedoes are shorter ranged)

By the way, the missiles were fired at any surface ships in the area, my subs haven't come into firing range against yours yet.

I haven't done anything with the 'rods from god' since my killsats would begin attacking you before you got over my nation (They engage most ballistic missiles before they are 'over' New Empire).

The ASAT missiles and Paquat I'll get in my next post.
OOC: Okok, understood. But I didn't have any surface ships near you when you fired the missiles. They were enroute to Finastadt.
Commandia
15-09-2005, 23:51
OOC: Um guys, i sort of have a fleet floating around in space? Who wants it? New Empire or Markov. If neither then i'll choose myself.
G-corp
16-09-2005, 00:13
OOC: Um guys, i sort of have a fleet floating around in space? Who wants it? New Empire or Markov. If neither then i'll choose myself.


OOC: wow have you not read any of the happenings??????? we said we were not going to use future tech ex:space navies for anything other than drops and the ships must be able to enter and exit the atmosphere.... in other words... no you cannot give your spacenay to anyone....this is a 2030 techno age ok not a 20 wahtever ok im tired of this...geeze people dont kno how to read very well haha and plus you technically aren't even BIG enough to even own a spaceSHIP let alone a space NAVY
Thrashia
16-09-2005, 08:11
OOC: Technically my Mobile Suits aren't really future tech, they use titanium armor, and use enlarged machine guns, with the occasional bazooka. I will eliminate any beam weapons, and keep it at projectile weapons. And my mobile suits can be damaged and destroyed by tanks but it takes more than one or two shots, unless hit in the right spot.

So,does that work and may I deploy my forces?
Commandia
16-09-2005, 21:15
OOC: So, you're saying that i need a population of, um, let's say 1087164015420450125602 to support a space navy? Bah. If you don't want me intruding, fine, won't and 2030 tech seems abotu right for all my ships
(LEaves, does not return)
Markov
17-09-2005, 16:47
OOC: ok guys... lets keep this going
G-corp
17-09-2005, 20:23
OOC:yea well NE still needs to post....
Thrashia
18-09-2005, 09:28
OOC: So you two will allow me to deploy and use my Mobile Suits?
Markov
18-09-2005, 14:38
OOC: That's New Empire's call.
Thrashia
18-09-2005, 19:39
OOC: Alright, if he doesn't then I'm virtually useless and will remove my previous posts.
New Empire
20-09-2005, 21:21
OOC: I really don't think mechs at a 2030 level have that much practicality when compared to tanks, AFVs and helicopters... But as long as you're willing to RP the flaws.

--

And what's a 'material detecting sensor'? I've heard of magnetic, but those only work at short range... And there's the gravitic ones but they don't work against moving things.

IC:

(My artillery is never at the front lines...)

The G-corp men were ten miles out on the emerald fields and hedgerows when the first line of trenches found them. UAVs flying with datalinks through Battlenet gave the infantry their positions: Soon all manner of hell would rain down on the G-corp infantry. Several hundred G-9 guns of the battery began to rain flechette rounds down on the infantry: each shell was a hive of thousands of metal slivers, each could penentrate armor and would inflict massive, near untreatable wounds on flesh. Any armor in the area would recieve a dosage of anti-armor smart shells. Each shell would carry a payload of several armor-piercing top-attack anit-tank munitions, capable of blasting through the top of a tank's armor.

Heavy machineguns of all calibers lanced out against the G-corp infantry: 15.5mm machineguns that could pierce APCs at a kilometer out, APC mounted 120mm automortars that would rain death from above, and intersecting fields of fire would turn the entire area in front of the line into a death trap. The tanks which were deployed would thunder out with their railguns. Capacitators hummed and iridium-osmium slugs crackled and roared as the tanks fired on any G-corp armor in the area.

Metal Storm Active Denial Systems in the trenches sprung to life: on the command of section leaders, they spewed 40mm projectiles against infantry and light armor. Meanwhile, the UCSNE fighters kept strict patrol over the area. They were outnumbered, but as armored units were mustered, they had the hope of holding out for reinforcements. They would not be abandoned, not on their home soil, just as they would not abandon the city. There would be no doubts and no weak resolve in a war like this. There was everything to fight for, and nothing to hold back. This was total war.

Over Mohres, the bombers hadn't quite made it to their targets yet. The city's defensive grid was finally in engagement range, and long-range lasers began to attack the bombers aloing with continuing barrages of SAM weapons. However, the outer areas of the city were well within bomb range, and strategic targets in the area were illuminated in the man-made suns of the Markovian bombers.

The Northern Fleet once again readied the TAMD-IVs to engage the missiles, fortunately due to the large spread of the New Empire fleet doctrine, even a nuclear weapon wouldn't affect a large portion of the fleet. Nevertheless, there were casualties. 10 destroyers and cruisers were heavily damged, mission-killed or outright destroyed. The New Empire vessels responded with 1kt tipped HyStrike missiles, about 1200 in total.

The submarines on the other hand, had the Markovians right where they wanted them. They were using caterpillar drives, but the UCSNE had much more experience in sub design than their counterparts. Having faced enemies using such a device, it was found that one could use SONAR that measured ambient noise, and you could detect the Markovian vessels simply through the 'black hole' of noise created by an MHD drive and the other quieting. The Skana, on the other hand, had ambient noise generators: a system of low powered hydrophones that approximated the level of background noise and fed it back outwards near the propulsion: The Skana was much harder to detect in that respect.

Once they had located the Markovian subs, they fired. Rather than using the noisy supercavitating torpedoes, they fired Mk88s with 1kt warheads: The torpedoes and the launching system were extremely quiet, and the Markovians would have trouble picking out the torpedoes until they were closer in, and traveling at 70 knots. This way the Skana could avoid giving away their location to any other Markovian vessels, and reposition for a new attack.

At Paquat, the Markovians met a nasty surprise. As the ASW grids of the ports intercepted the torpedoes, the Markovian subs would have to contend with the Paquat submarine force in the area. The chief among this was the SSACVN, a Nike Class 'super submarine', at 160,000 tons, much larger and deadlier than any other vessel under the waves. Also present were the "Snarc" class Semi-autonomous attack submarines, 4 of them. They would fire the first blow, being more manuverable and quieter than the Nike. They spun up weapons in their inner cluster of tubes: 1000mm diameter monsters that fired weaposn half the size of SLBMs. Designed to sink superdreadnoughts, they carried multithousand pound ONC warheads, a conventional explosive, but powerful enough that the torpedoes could sink or cripple an SSN that was in a few hundred yards of the detonation. 20 of the torpedoes raced out at 70 knots, fairly quiet, and since the Markovians were filling the water with the noise of their own barrage, they could hopefully get a few hits from the slower weapons.

Meanwhile, Paquat was thrown into a panic as a full evacuation was ordered. Though the Markovians had not broken through yet, nobody wanted to be inside the city where a massive battle was raging only a few dozen miles away. The Markovian enthusiasm for nuclear strike created mass panic as exit highways were clogged with those fleeing the inevitable carnage.
Markov
20-09-2005, 21:55
OOC:
RE: The MDS system. It's pretty much much what it says. It's an external sensor that roots out and detects unnatural material in an area. (Commonly Metal) you told me about it a few years back as I recall.

And about the subs that fired on Paquat: they are the same ones that (tried) to hit you at northpeak.
Thrashia
20-09-2005, 22:11
OOC: Nvm, I withdraw my previous posts. I hope your rp goes well. Good day to you.
New Empire
21-09-2005, 01:24
OOC: I don't think its really possible for the subs to attack Paquat and Northpeak at the same time... Torpedoes wouldn't have the range.

and MDS was magnetic detection sensor (IIRC)... and you can counter it by actively degaussing like my subs do.
Markov
21-09-2005, 02:50
OOC:
okok, I "withdraw" my attack against Paquat. Time reverses...The subs fire their torps at northpeak only and then the torps get schooled by you and your fleet. :cool:
G-corp
21-09-2005, 03:18
OOC: where are your guns located in relation to the map and where are your troops attacking me from...

IC:
Block A7 Heading 225 and 226-The first G-corp group that had been sent out to scout was getting torn apart however the remaining forces were not 5 miles out..."sir orders??" "I want a UAV up link telling me where the hell they came from and why the hell I wasn’t informed about them sooner..."the captain of the second deployment shouted over the gunfire while hunkering down near a mortar crater...the forces were pinned down by mortar fire, flechette rounds, tank fire and conventional fire..."ok I want you to take Charlie squadron and move up the right flank to try and take out some of those tanks and mortars.” the captain told a sergeant "yes sir..." "Corporal I want you to take alpha squadron and move up the left flank to try and get into those trenches..." "yes sir I’m on it..." the captain also told the radio crew to tell command post that they were in dire need of some artillery strikes..."this is deployment 2 to command post we could use an artillery bombardment at point A7 heading 226 on my mark over..." " this is command post that’s a roger on that artillery strike, artillery now being loaded..." 10 seconds later "captain artillery strike is ready willing and able to fire on your mark..." the captain waited twenty seconds to reply. "FIRE!!"

Forward command post Block A9 Heading 279-the artillery mechs began firing wave after wave into the blue sky. The shells were 140mm in size and could pack an incredibly big wallop to anything stupid enough to get into its firing area...

Back at point A7 heading 225-the air went deathly still as a barrage from hell began to rain upon the unsuspecting NE troops in the trenches...the mighty shells impacted tanks troops and APC's alike and as they were being taken care of in the midst of the action a small task force squad alpha was penetrating the trenches taking care of any and all NE forces that they managed to come across, the force moved quickly and smoothly from one area to the next eventually reaching a good point to stop and radio there captain..."captain this is alpha squad leader bill null reporting in sir..." “Copy that Billy what is your current status over" "well we've penetrated most of the trenches sir and have sustained minimal casualty’s sir, but what’s with the artillery fire sir???" "Well I thought that you boys could use a little bit of a distraction soldier" "thank god I thought we would have to win this war all by our lonesome selves sir" the soldier chuckled. "yes well not today soldier complete your run and radio in, in about 20 minutes for another update over" "copy that sir bill over and out..." the line went dead but the shells continued to rain down from the heavens like rain drops of death this would continue for another hour or so until the captain felt that the numbers had been shaved a little bit more evenly for his team...in the mean time he ordered that the tanks and other armored units be fitted with there camo so that they wouldn’t be spotted by enemy UAV's and enemy airplanes...he ordered that snipers be put into position for taking out lone enemies stupid enough to reveal themselves even an inch...all of his troops were either reloading firing or laying on the ground so that they would not get shot the NE bastards had gotten the slip on them this time but he had done them one over by launching an artillery strike bet those pansies weren’t expecting that were they?

NE waters Main G-corp fleet SD Athena Class 03-the captain watched as his navy moved closer and closer to point A3 heading 139. "Bring us to full speed captain” the Admiral said to the captain. “yes sir admiral." the ship gained speed in no time they would be in the heart of the Markovian/NE naval war...he was looking forward to it as were all of his bridge captains. “Tell the Otohain Harbor to launch some of those prototypes Anti-ship and naval superiority subs…tell them to get over here ASAP.” “yes sir admiral.” When the radio came in to launch the Singapor and Butcher class Heavy and Medium anti-ship and naval superiority subs the engineers went nuts that they were already in need of these deadly ships…there were only 40 in the navy at the time but they were beginning to move into the mass production stages however these were still only the prototypes and not the finished products so they warned the captains and seamen about how unstable that they might be. The seamen only said that they were doing there duties and went aboard the monster’s that they called submarines...

Forward command post Block A9 Heading 279-“this is forward command post to Hercules Carrier 1-6 we are ready to begin receiving the rest of the army you can begin landing your troops at any time…” “this is carrier 1 to command post copy that prepare for air lift and sea drop over.” “copy that Hercules 1 begin landing…” about 40 minutes after they had talked to the Hercules 1 they begin to see the sea transports come into view…hundreds of them thousands…a short while after they saw the air lifters and gun ships carrying even more troops hardened and ready for battle this place was about to get very crowded…
Markov
22-09-2005, 02:47
IC:
[Over Mohres]

The SAMs caught the bombers by suprise. One of the previously damaged bombers was destroyed. The rest picked many missiles out of the air with HELLADS. The rest of the SAMs were intercepted by mini missiles fired by the MF-98D escorts. The bombers, fearing another SAM attack, climbed while continuing to unload their munitions over Mohres. They recieved an encrypted datal link from the Command Super dreadnaught to head back to the carriers.
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[Over Finastadt]

The four Serenity Class Hypersoar bombers were flying at high altitude over the ground battle. They had received data burst from the Command ship that New Empirian ground forces were on the move. They were preparing to engage G-corp ground forces. Their target was in range. The bombers spread out and targeted New Empirian ground forces near Finastadt with conventional muntions: precision bombs, dumb bombs, and cruise missiles. They were specifically instructed to take out New Empirian armor and artillery. Their weapons pylons became active; they hung over Finastadt for a total of 5 minutes dropping munitions before heading the airstrip at the forward command post to land.
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[Markovian Armadas I and II: 115 miles from Northpeak]

Greylock's first engagement had gone well, UAVs over the battle had revealed that many New Empirian ships were heavily damaged and some were even completely destroyed. Now it was their move.

New Empire's missiles began to appear on RADAR. The front line of destroyers was likely to take a beating. Countermeasers became active. Ship based laser platforms began to target the incoming missiles. High maneuver mini missiles streamed into the air. Many missiles were taken out, but some got through. Two Madison Class Stealth destroyers in the front line were sunk and many others were damaged.

Greylock was satified, but now it was his move. Had previously ordered all Super dreadnaughts to the rear so the New Empirian Fleet would be in range of their 30" artillery guns. The dreadnaughts began to fire from the rear on the New Empirian line. The sound of the guns was completely deapening, but it did not last for long.

The missile cruisers again responded to the New Empirian missiles with four vollies of ASM-89 Viper .7 Kt hypervelocity anti-ship missiles. The entire fleet continued to move forward.

In the front line, the destoyers targeted New Empirian ships with supercav torpedoes. 400 Tiburon class 1kt torpedoes left their compartments and streamed towards Surface ships. Some were programmed to detonate before contact with their targets.

Under the surface, the subs were spread out evenly throughout the fleet. In the front line, they still hadn't seen any response from New Empirian subs, but that was about to change. The new Empirian torpedoes came closer and closer to the subs undetected. There was a break in the firing on the surface and thats when they saw them on SONAR. The subs had no time for evasive manuevers. They activated their countermeasures and hoped for the best. Consealed Hydragun platforms on the exteriors of the subs came to life and fired upon the incoming torpedoes. Small sucav torps were also fired to intercept them. In many cases the torps were destoyed but some detonated extremely close the subs inflicting major damge causing them to surface.

The unaffected subs now knew where the Skanas were. They loaded their torpedo tubes and began to fire sucav torpedoes on their last known positions based on where their torpedoes came from. Again, the topedoes were programmed to detonate automatically when they got near the subs.

The subs in the rear, near the super dreadnaughts were also in for a suprise. They were there for the sould purpose of protecting the super dreadnaughts. They detected multiple incoming contacts form the south. They were torpedoes alright. They dissengaged their Manta fast attack subs that were piggy backing on their hull. The smaller subs raced towards the topedoes as the subs contacted the super dreadnaughts. The Mantas began to fire on the torpedoes with small sucav torpedoes, intercepting many of them.

One super dreadnaught was not so lucky however. It received a direct hit to the hull, severely cripling it and rendering it imobile.

The rest of the super dreadnaughts recevied little or no damage. They began to retaliate on the subs coming out of Paquat with nuclear yield ASROCs (anti submarine rockets). The missiles exploded from the decks of the ships and streamed into the air. They would come down hard into the water and hopefully hit some New Empirian subs.
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New Empire
27-09-2005, 02:41
OOC: You can't see them on the map. My men are 50 miles out from the city in a solid line around it.

And you haven't penentrated the trenches, period. My men wouldn't break and run, so if you're in any you're going to be in very bloody close range fighting.

IC:

"They finally started using artillery... I wonder what took the bastards so long. They should have used it earlier to soften us up... Hell with it, you guys know what to do."

Warlock (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/an-vlq-9.htm) systems engaged as the artillery came in. They seriously damaged the fuses of the G-corp shells so that they exploded prematurely, causing minimal damage, though a company that had lost its Warlock system did sustain significant casualties. However, the G-9 artillery now had what it wanted: The positions of the G-corp artillery. Using counterbattery radar they swung their 155mm guns around and loaded non-fused DU anti-armor shells (So they don't get affected by Warlock systems), and began their barrage. After every volley, the G-9 howitzers would move to a new location on their multi-wheeled chassis to avoid counterfire from the G-corp artillery.

The G-corp snipers already had something waiting for them. The UCSNE had predeployed hundreds of their trained snipers around the area, armed with everything from long range .308 rifles to 15.5mm heavy rifles that could pierce APC armor at a kilometer out. The method of finding the G-corp snipers was simple. They were trigger happy, and had claimed the lives of a few men who even moved out of the trenches for a second. So soldiers took their helmets and put them on sticks, in the time honored tradition, and would poke the tops of the helmets out of the trenches, not enough so that a G-corp sniper could see that the helmet lacked a head in it, but enough to give them a clear shot. When they fired, the UCSNE snipers would return fire with deadly accuracy.

The UAVs watched as the G-corp men erected their camouflage netting, and marked the positions for further strikes. Then they switched to thermal cameras, they could pick out the heat plumes from under the netting, and the barrage of mortars would continue on these locations as the artillery dueled.

Flying at low level, four EB-15 bombers raced at Mach 1, low over the emerald plains towards Finastadt. Each carried 132 Wolverine cruise missiles, each with a 1000 pound heavy warhead, save for four that were tactical nuclear weapons. At 600 miles out, the conventional Wolverines were fired. The stealthy cruise missiles would maintain that mach 1 speed, supercruising at low altitude into the harbor. Their targets were the docks and other areas where the landing ships were coming ashore, where the G-corp men would be packed and vulnerable. Upon impact, the 400+ cruise missiles would detonate with their half ton of ONC, the most powerful conventional explosive on Earth.

The Hypersoar bombers were detected by the embattled SDI network, which dispatched several railgun armed NEODEN satellites to deal with the Hypersoars. The hypersoars were armored against laser fire, but kinetic weaponry would be much more damaging, and their flight path wouldn't give them much room for error.

On the naval front, the Markovians had pulled their guns too early. 30" guns were quite inaccurate at missile ranges, so none of the shells did too much damage, though they were quite rattling.

The Markovians at this point were wasting torpedo, the fleet was still quite far out for a supercav torpedo to travel, and most detonated miles away from the UCSNE vessels.

Another six volleys of 1kt missiles were launched, this time in sea-skimming mode. They wouldn't travel as fast, but the Markovians wouldn't detect them easily, and the vapor mist created bt the missiles low flight would diminish the power of the lasers against the missiles. Another two volleys would bypass the Markovians completely, and instead target their supply ships. If they could damage the Markovian supply vessels, the fleet could force the Markovians to expend ammunition, and it would take a long time for supplies to come from Markov afterward.

The Skana vessels still had the upper hand. (As stated earlier), they had quiet fired (using the elastomer membrane water slug, explanation provided if necessary), and then moved away before the torpedo made any new noise. The Markovian torpedoes caught on they were mistargeted, and tried to correct, but it did allow many to be intercepted. And then they heard the ASROCs splashing down. They went into emergency dive: The torpedoes would reach crush depth before they would.

They would disappear, over a kilometer under the waves, past the thermocline. From there, they wouldn't be able to hear the Markovians, but the Markovians would be completely blind (Here's why): When a nuclear weapon explodes underwater, trillions of bubbles are created, which effectively creates a giant noisemaker that will take a decent amount of time to disappate. Since the nuclear weapons will be detonating between the now heavy-dived Skana and the Markovian subs. In this time, the New Empire boats would hide under the thermocline, waiting for the nuclear aftereffects to clear to play their trump card against the Markovians...

OOC: sorry about the delay, but bio project took up most of my writing time. Fortunately it's done now, so we can conduct this in a more timely fashion. Remind me if I missed anything, I rushed some parts to give you guys something to work with.
G-corp
27-09-2005, 03:41
OOC:ok number one i am firing from about 1,500 mechanized artillary tanks and mechs right so exactly how many of thsoe shells did u take out with ur warlock systems? also no where did i say my troops were "trigger happy" i simply said that they shot at ne thing that relvealed themselves, my snipers would not fire at "everything".i will be posting my casualties and my counter offensive at a later time sometime tomorrow...goodnight all.
G-corp
28-09-2005, 00:35
OOC: good my men are trained rigorously in hand to hand combat on how to disarm and armed foe and how to quickly take down a much superior enemy…they live for it…to an extent of course. Also if those artillery units you used against my Athena 4 were stationed 50+ miles(including the extra miles cause you said that you never put your artillery in the front and my ships were offshore 280 miles then how could you have hit it? I don’t care I’ll count it as dead I’m just curious to know…and another thing how exactly could your fighters and low level mach one bombers get past my forward command post without taking some casualties? I’m going to post as thought my forward command post saw them and is shooting MAMS at them but I highly doubt that they all got through…

IC:

Forward command post block A9 heading 279- “sir we’ve got incoming low level bombers traveling at mach 1 sir permission to prep and launch MAMS” the major said. “permission granted blow those sons of bitches out of the sky…”with this a count of 50 MAMS missile launchers were prepped to launch a total of 400 MAMS missiles at the incoming bombers and cruise missiles that were already fired…“well sir the artillery has just finished up launching the last of the shells at the enemy but most of them exploded before they even hit the ground causing minimal damage. We estimate that we only dealt 15-25% damage to the overall force…”the major said as he looked at the colonel. “ok I want 10 Nightwing bombers flying at low altitude to do a bombing run or the sector I want them flying fast enough however to evade there anti aircraft guns and missiles I also want them to enable there RDS(RADAR Deficiency Systems). Arm them with plasma yield and HAVOK’s. Also send up 60 Libra class air superiority fighters, and 20 shadow Hunter fighters as escort. Also I want 10 Orca class heavy assault gun ship’s to go in and soften the ground a little more I think they will do fine with there MAMS, medium electro magnetic bolt drivers light HAVOK bombs and heavy armor plating.” “Yes sir all units are beginning to mobilize…”the major said. “also major I want those artillery tanks and mechs moved so that…” just then he heard something, “sir incoming we’ve got artillery shells 155mm sir brace for impact!!” the shells impacted the artillery unit’s APC’s and infantry alike however they had come prepared for just such an occasion, “enable those missile pads marine!!” just then a few hundred anti gravity pads sent a barrage of super high velocity missiles into the sky as they targeted the shells and took out as many as possible…however a good 25-45% of the shells got through knocking out artillery tanks, Mechs, Zues tanks, killing a few infantry, and knocking out some of the forward command post. “Status report soldier!” “well sir we lost about 40 artillery tanks and 25 artillery mechs, we’ve also got heavily damaged or destroyed Zues tanks, and we’ve also lost about 60 infantry engineers and staff along with some Comm. equipment and some targeting equipment.” The major replied. “great I want those artillery units and tanks moved to a new location and I want some of those ATR’s(Anti Tracking Rods) stuck in the ground all over the compound to make sure that they can’t see where everything is…also I want all our Comm. Equipment back on line on the double!

Battalion 1 Block A7 heading 225 and 226-“sir we have just lost contact with alpha team and Charlie squadron is taking heavy casualties…orders sir?!?” the frightened private asked his commander. “ok tell those snipers to enable there inferred sensors to distinguish the helmet dummies and the real troops, tell those tanks to take off the camo that’s covering them and relocate themselves to another location and await further orders. I also want an anti UAV set up so that those NE bastards can’t see what were doing down here…you got that soldier?!?” “YES SIR!!” the soldier began to relay orders back and forth between the forward command outpost and the rest of the battalion…all around they began sticking small metal rods called ATR’s into the ground which on impact sent a constant pulsation through the earth that took away all of the soldiers footsteps heat signatures and made the entire battlefield look like one big light bulb making it near impossible to see let alone track the movement of there troops, the downside to this would be that there on UAV’s were affected as well, also these rods would only effect a certain area and were relatively deep into the ground so that they would either not be seen or shot at, so they would need to rely on the pinpointed positions of the enemy that they had taken before however they had the ability to move around the enemy did not the enemies trenches were very stable and in one position so it would be easy just to lob a quick grenade into there trenches…the snipers quickly realized that they were being taken out one by one and stopped firing so carelessly after all they had been trained better than that and enabled there inferred scopes, the camo that were covering the tanks were quickly taken off and the tanks moved back. Although the commander thought to himself…what if I sent a few tanks to the right and left and began firing upon the enemies, no that would not be very good the enemy would just open them up like a tin can with those tank busting missiles…he decided to leave the tanks where they were.

Main Army Block A9 heading 269-The transport craft was not that spacious, Doug did not feel at home in this cramped area, his heart was racing as he heard on the radio that there were incoming bombers carrying stealth grade high precision cruise missiles…”ok I want those MAMS launchers operational ASAP I don’t want…holy shit! Incoming brace for…” just then there was a huge rattle and an explosion as the Comm. Line went dead on the main deck…the missiles had already reached them and were beginning to incinerate them already just then he heard missile pods being prepped and targeting the missiles. Most of the missiles had been taken out before impact but a lot of them had hit there targets either with precision or had inflicted critical damage to the landing craft… “this is Libra 1 to landing craft 2 come in over?” Doug answered through the Comm. Line “ this is Captain First Class Doug B. Jacobs I read you Libra 1 what’s going on out there over?” “well captain things aren’t looking too good from what I can see your bridge has been desecrated and you guys are just moving forward at a normal speed so nothing to worry about yet but if you sustain another hit like that then you’ll be going down to the bottom of NE waters over” “copy that Libra 1 what would you suggest doing over?” “well stay there while I radio back to the Athena 1 and see what’s going on over at the naval battle but me and my wing will guard you while we are taking care of those bombers over” “copy that Libra one we’ll stay put good luck out there over” “over and out…” the Comm. Line went dead, Doug was hoping to god that they didn’t get killed even before they reached the main fighting area…”

Gargantuan Class Medium Corvette post atmospheric entry/holding position above NE airspace above block A7 heading 226 and 227-“Admiral we are ready to begin dropping our ODSTHEV(Orbital Drop Shock Troopers Human Entry Vehicle)”the captain said. “Good begin the drop…” with that a little over 300 ODSTHEV were prepped and dropped the short distance from the ship to the surface where they would land behind and in enemy lines. The ODST’s were to target enemy Infantry, Tanks, APC,s Cargo trucks, any and all Artillery emplacements that they might come across, and were to not take any of them hostage and to help secure a way through to the main artillery Emplacements that had taken out the Athena 4…the drop was so short that there was not enough time for the NE troops to react or fire at them a few of them were lost however do to parachute failure, however a good 280+ did successfully land and were already beginning to form groups and squads and rally points… “This is PFV Joseph to any one from green platoon does any one read me over?!?” “Copy that Joseph its Bradley here what’s your location over?” Responded Bradley. “Well I’m near some foliage and from my readings I’m pretty close to your position over?” nothing but static. “Bradley come in over?” “Joseph tell any one you see to steer clear of square 13 I repeat square 13 is extremely hostile and do not approach in any way over?!?” “Copy that Bradley what are your going to do is survival a possibility?” “Negative on that one enemy troops combing the area and imminent discovery is close killing the radio over good luck Joseph…” The radio went dead Joseph was alone now alone and cold but he had to stay strong, he had to stay alive…for his country, for his family, but most of all for himself… “this is ODST 139 calling any and all ARG forces I repeat any ARG forces in the vicinity over” “copy that ODST 139 this is Charlie 12 come in…” “Copy that Charlie 12 what is your status over?” “well I am alive if that’s what your asking but I got separated from my platoon a while ago and have only gotten one radio message saying that square 13 is hot other than that I’ve gotten no response on any of the other channels…but what are ODST’s doing here I saw the ship about 2 hours ago dropping you guys off, what’s the deal the brass think we can’t handle this alone?!?” “Well Charlie 12 the brass doesn’t want to lose this area to? NE forces and it also wants those damned Artillery cannons that took out the Athena 4 dead so they decided that it would be a good job for us to handle…over” “copy that so what am I supposed to do sit here on my hands and pray that I don’t get shot???” “No my squad and I are en route to your location just stay put understood over?” “Copy that over and out…” the Comm. Channel went dead and Joseph just sat there looking up into the sky wondering when this war would be over and how long it would last and if he would live through it…

OOC:

Sent in:
-300 ODST’s
-60 Libra Class Air Superiority Fighters’
-20 Shadow Hunter Fighters’
-10 Nightwing Low Level Speed Bombers’
-10 Orca Class Ultra Heavy Assault Gun ships

Casualties:
-7 Heracles Class Assault Gun ships
-10 Transports
-40 Artillery tanks
-25 Artillery mechs
-16 Zeus Heavy Assault Tank
-60 Infantry, Engineers, and Staff
-13 ODSTHEV KIA
-7 ODSTHEV MIA

Troops/supplies lost at sea:
-200 troops KIA
-72 MIA
-36 Zues Heavy Assault Tanks
New Empire
28-09-2005, 22:18
OOC: Warlock doesn't use ammo, it uses an EM/Radio transmission and field to prematurely detonate the fusing on artillery shells. RL field ratings are about 85-90% vs shells, mortars, etc, but I generally boost it up another five to account for a more powerful transmitter. So it can keep up that rate as long as the system has batteries, be they carried in backpack or in the vehicle it's mounted on.

To answer your questions...

You assume your troops even get into hand to hand range. Keep in mind you are advancing to an enemy with superior height with artillery support, entrenched, and with fields of intersecting fire, and then get past any anti-personnel mines that have been dug around the trenches to prevent sneak attacks. It will take a lot of work to dislodge the men by trying to physically reach the trenches.

As for your question on the bombers, they launch their missiles six hundred miles away from your position. The Wolverine Cruise Missile has a range of about 1000 nautical miles, and any surface launched missile designed for anti-aircraft purposes has a range of less than 200 nautical miles (unless you're using an anti-ballistic, which are quite large and wouldn't really help in this case). The bombers themselves will launch their weapons at 600 miles out, and then return to base.

As for your question, the G9 gun is not any regular artillery. With the proper power supply (A 10MW nuclear reactor the size of a shipping crate that can be hooked up), it has an accurate range of about 300 miles at full velocity. So the G9s are nearly a dozen miles behind the forward trenches, but could still fire upon any ship that is close enough to send landing craft into Finastadt harbor. However, the G9 must significantly decrease its range to be of any use against land targets, so they function like regular artillery guns against ground troops and tanks (Except when they have line of sight, then they can be used as direct fire guns like the German 88s were).

I hope that explains everything. Post coming soon, I've got a Bio lab and English writing to do, I will have one by saturday at the very latest.
G-corp
29-09-2005, 02:49
OOC: Warlock doesn't use ammo, it uses an EM/Radio transmission and field to prematurely detonate the fusing on artillery shells. RL field ratings are about 85-90% vs shells, mortars, etc, but I generally boost it up another five to account for a more powerful transmitter. So it can keep up that rate as long as the system has batteries, be they carried in backpack or in the vehicle it's mounted on.

To answer your questions...

You assume your troops even get into hand to hand range. Keep in mind you are advancing to an enemy with superior height with artillery support, entrenched, and with fields of intersecting fire, and then get past any anti-personnel mines that have been dug around the trenches to prevent sneak attacks. It will take a lot of work to dislodge the men by trying to physically reach the trenches.

As for your question on the bombers, they launch their missiles six hundred miles away from your position. The Wolverine Cruise Missile has a range of about 1000 nautical miles, and any surface launched missile designed for anti-aircraft purposes has a range of less than 200 nautical miles (unless you're using an anti-ballistic, which are quite large and wouldn't really help in this case). The bombers themselves will launch their weapons at 600 miles out, and then return to base.

As for your question, the G9 gun is not any regular artillery. With the proper power supply (A 10MW nuclear reactor the size of a shipping crate that can be hooked up), it has an accurate range of about 300 miles at full velocity. So the G9s are nearly a dozen miles behind the forward trenches, but could still fire upon any ship that is close enough to send landing craft into Finastadt harbor. However, the G9 must significantly decrease its range to be of any use against land targets, so they function like regular artillery guns against ground troops and tanks (Except when they have line of sight, then they can be used as direct fire guns like the German 88s were).

I hope that explains everything. Post coming soon, I've got a Bio lab and English writing to do, I will have one by saturday at the very latest.


OOC:i already knew that the WARLOCK system was sometype of radio wave of somekind thank you for clarifying that for me.

What kind of enemies are we talking about here landmates? hardsuits? when i dropped my ODST's they are basically HMPA(High Manuever Powered Armor) basically a landmate however if your are reffering to Charlie and Alpha squads they were almost immedietly whiped out when they attacked except for a few stragglers...but the ODST's have been trained since birth they are the closest thing to an Anubis that you can get without actually being considered one... they are about 7'8"-8'8" tall have ultra thick armor and carry Spider Anti-Personel rifles(8.9mm AP) along with standard pistol grenades heat sensors etc. im sure that your mines give off heat of some kind don't they? and if not explain to me please how they do not...and another thing in trenches how are there intersecting fields of fire? there is forward and backwards not right, left, back, forward, diagnol right front, diagnol left front, etc. and by atrillery support do u mean your 155mm G9er's? if so how can you fire both at my artillery in my command post my battalion that is in hiding not a few miles out under camo and my ODST's in the trenches that seems highly unlikely...

also you don't decide what my missiles look like or how far they can fly or how much damage they can do, i do, my missles are A) self propelled by a nuclear fision high intensity rocket boosterallowing it to reach speeds of up to and possible excess of mach 1.5+ and a distance of up to and possible excess of 750+miles...and i am not only firing at your bombers i am firing at the missles ive launched and my missiles are programmed to destroy your missiles...they are in other words locked onto there heat sigs and electronical signiture, everyhitng electric gives off static electricity thus they are easily trackable, my MAMS are about 4-6 feet in length depending on the type of warhead, and i am not only firing them from my forward command post but the landing craft are equiped with several of the pods that deploy them as well as my air lifters(Heracles Gunships) are also equipped with a few of these as well...

And about the G9 artillery, i landed in and around your position meaning the back and center of your forces so now you are dealing with ODST's from behind and in your lines and trenches and my first battalion in the front...have fun
New Empire
01-10-2005, 02:53
OOC: I said thats the limit for your missile because a 750 mile range AAM would be impractical... It would be extremely easy to manuver around. But I'll accept your stats, but as you can see, a missile with such long range has serious flaws.

And static electricity cannot be tracked from beyond a few meters, and if it could be, the air around it and the electromagnetic pulse from your missiles exploding elsewhere would make the missiles themselves impossible to track...

Your missile would have to be a lot bigger than 4-6 feet... That's like a Sidewinder, which has a range of 10 miles... A nuclear engine at 2030 tech would need at least a missile the size of a small ballistic missile.

I'm not telling you what your designs have to be, I'm telling you what's possible at this tech level... And the following is just a guideline for when you RP your interception.

The mines don't give off heat. No mines do. The idea that they do was invented by Splinter Cell to give the player a way to get around them. Mines do not have any motors or moving parts that give off heat, the only moving parts only engage when the mine has been set off.

As for intersecting fields of fire, I'll explain. An intersecting field of fires mean multiple machine guns can fire over the same area without the gun itself being moved. Basically, a crossfire in more simple terms. The zigzag shape of the trenchline meansthat guns can actually fire somewhat to the back and to the side, which allows them to fire on enemy troops even if a section of the trenches have been breached. And each machinegun actually has about 220 degrees of fire due to a pivoting bipod or tripod, and the machinegun can simply carry the gun to a new location if they need to intercept a different target. I can diagram an example section of trenches if you want.

You're making way to many assumptions... First of all, I have hundreds of G9 guns, a divisions worth of G9 batteries. Only four were firing at your ship, and I'm not firing artillery in the trenches... Because you don't have enough men in my trenches to warrant artillery. My infantry and armored vehicles can take out your ODSTs before get anywhere, see my post for why.

IC:

The G-corp missiles were slow for AAMs, and easily detectable due to the huge size a 750 mile range AAM necessitated. From here, it was simple mathematics. It would take about 45 minutes for the missiles to reach the bombers, whereas it would take 20 minutes for the bombers to get to launch position. The bombers turned around and accelerated to their Mach 1.5 unloaded speed. The missiles exploded in a brilliant series of airbursts over the emerald fields, but did nothing more than that.

The cruise missiles merely went at low level, skimming the seas. With the choppy climate that comes with the New Empire fall, combined with the limitations of radar against sea skimming targets, the missiles would easily lose themselves in the ocean. Flying only a few meters above the water level, any radar system would not be able to accurately track them due to the refraction of radio waves off the ocean's surface. The thermal tracking would also be negated because of the low Mach 1 speed: The high-bypass (supercruising) turbofan generated a much smaller heat signature than standard supersonic turbofans. Combined with the Wolverine's stealth signature, any interception by the G-corp missiles would be mostly luck (thermal detection systems generally have half the range of radar, this is due to inherent design issues in thermal imaging, not something that can be 'fixed').

The ODST troops that were 'behind the lines' met an interesting surprise. As the UCSNE was constantly shifting troops to the beachead, behind the lines didn't always mean 'helpless'.

The ODST troops would have to face thousands of rounds of 30mm armor piercing, radar-guided fire from APCs and AFVs, as soldiers prepared to take on the troops. Even though they were heavily armoed, they didn't need to pierce the armor to kill the men inside.

The 3 round burst function of the average infantryman's rifle was designed to defeat powered armor. The standard UCSNE BMCP (Blended Metal Core penentrator) had a hardened tungsten-carbide tip, that on its own could blow straight through the engine block of a truck and out the other side. But at 1800 rounds per minute (at the 3 round burst), that meant three rounds would be impacting within a few millimeters of eachother. The rounds would penentrate even heavy armor, and what they didn't penentrate, they'd provide so much shock to the armor that the hydrostatic waves (force created on impact of bullet to human body or bulletproof vest, basically a ripple or shockwave transferred through the liquid in the human body) would actually damage the vital organs of the man inside, causing massive pain, crushing ribs and opening up internal bleeding that would require a field surgeon to fix.

The ODST men were now facing thousands of well trained, professional UCSNE troops armed with these rifles and machineguns that fired the same ammunition. Designated marksmen carried M27 Rifles that used the same principle on an even higher caliber.

The ODST troops would be cut off from the artillery guns, and would meet a very nasty surprise. The guns that they were closest to destroying simply drove away. As they did, the crews would load a 'Elephant Buckshot' round. The 'Elephant Buckshot' was a play on the usual system for shotgun rounds: The bigger the spherical shot inside was, the bigger the game. Elephant buckshot launched 15mm spherical shot, thousands of them at once. This was enough to rip heavy armor apart (Consider the 15.5mm FN-BRG MGs my men have on utility vehicles and tanks can pierce an APC at a kilometer out), and take out swaths of men at once.

The ODST troops would kill a few dozen guns, but not enough to stop the Division's worth of artillery, which had hundreds of G9 guns at its disposal. The G9s would simply drive away, which at 40 mph was faster than any legged vehicle could go (bigger engines, plus wheels are more efficient than legs for speed). 300 men simply was nowhere near enough to defeat the nearly hundreds of thousands of troops and their equipment that were in the battle area or being shifted to it by High Command.

The ODST's armor was no match for the 15.5mm machineguns in the trenchlines or on the crew mounts of the armored vehicles. They had no heavy weapons (you say they have rifles, grenades and sensors... Nothing enough to take out anything much bigger than an APC), and there were only 300 of them, whereas there were thousands of men and hundreds of armored vehicles in the trenches, with each squad having a weapon that could incapacitate an ODST in a few seconds (the 9x90mm HV machinegun on burst), they could easily be cut off, contained, and eliminated.
G-corp
01-10-2005, 17:30
OOC: ok lets get started here first lets start with my ODST drop, first of all my ODST's may have landed in back in in the middle of your troops and if this is true about you saying its going to be fall consuider the effects of cold weather on the normal human body and maybe some insulant from your troops armors, whereas my ODST's are equiped with internal heating systems and HDA(Heat Deffening armor) whichc makes them near impossible to see via thermol vision, and also even though you m,ay have those guns your troops would be busy dealing with my other battalion and also looking up to see my troops landing via my space ship that had entered the atmosphere an hour earlier, but yes you are right where your troops would be able to penetrate there armor however I have not said waht my ODST's would do if and when they would land...and even if you could get those G9's to move how would they stabalise themselves form being pushed in and backwards from the blast of those 155mm cannons and wouldnt it take some time to unstabalize them and get the cannon down and eventually turn around they cant just move as son as they see somehting there have to be some sort of repacking the artillery up and then moving it and you don't know how many of these things i am going to take out and if I am actually going to destoy them or simply plant a HAVOK 0.2 kilo nuclear warhead on one of them let them move and then just push a button and watch them all blow to bits all because they moved in the same direction at the same time...and also i was wrong about how long my missiles were i made a slight calculation error my apologies my missiles would not be able to go that far if they were that long my misiles are more of a 25-30 ft. missile that sounds a little bit more reasonable and i said before that i wasn't only targeting your bombers themselves but also the missiles which were not being located via RADAR but via HMAMSHIUAV(High Manueverability Anti-Missile High Intensity Unmanned Aerial Vehicle) which would either track it by just looking for a big streaking rocket shape in a cloud of blackness(the sea) or b look for a heat signiture from inside the rocket itself(the engine and the booster that is no doubt protruding out the back...and don't even get me started at waht is possible and not possible you yourself that they are already develpoing hard suits and junk like that however scientists are already on the brink of making and actually containing anti matter and waht not so i do beleive that a small enoph engine 10ft.-15ft. for the engine itself and another 15ft.-10ft. for the rest of the body of the rocket would be quite practical. more will be said at a later time but do not post NE until i am done with what i am saying please thank you now im off to a birthday party talk to you all at a later time...
New Empire
01-10-2005, 22:14
OOC:

CAn you use paragraphs next time? It's very hard for me to read, so I might miss some stuff...

In any case, my line is 3 miles thick from front trenches to rear echelon. My troops back there that are preparing for battle aren't going to be distracted by anything going on at the very front. Given you only have 300 ODSTs, I can just detach a battalion or two...

As for the 'i can't find them' thing, I won't need to track them via thermal. The weather is perfecltly clear, and given the size of the suits, my troops can track them easily, as they'll be in the complete open. Adaptive camouflage can only effectively work when your guys are standing still, which they won't be able to if they're gonna hit the G9s.

And why do you think you can just walk up to the G9s? The gun crews are all armed with R32 carbines, and each has a pair of 15.5mm machineguns that can chop up your men before they even get close. It takes 20 seconds to destabilize, and the 155mm shell is recoilless at low velocity since it's an electromagnetic gun, and the propellant is much less (Since its designed to be short range, direct fire rather than long range, indirect fire). You aren't gonna be able to catch more than a few dozen by surprise, its not like my entire rear line isn't going to notice 300 giant battlesuits stomping around.

And actually, you've got my cruise missiles wrong. There is no rocket engine, as I explained, its a high-bypass turbofan, which has an extremely low thermal signature, so while your drones might be able to find some, the low thermal detection range (And visual, each only work out a few dozen miles), you won't be able to intercept anywhere near all of the missiles.

And while I'll let you get away from adding your drones, next time please declare what missile defenses you have, as you never mentioned those drones eariler...
G-corp
02-10-2005, 14:18
OOC:

I am not asuming that my ODST's can just walk up however given there mechanical enhancements they are able to run a bit faster than a normal human and some even faster who have been given implants in there legs to take off strain on them as well as pump adrenaline in. and also my hardsuits aren't that big its not like they are mobile suits or echs they are only 7'-8' tall, wjhich is only 2 feet taller than a normal human. and if i just get one i pretty much get them all and since you never countered whether or not they move in seperate areas my HAVOK would go off whenever my ODST's feel it would help them so in other words it won't matter if i only get one its called splash damage from a 0.3 kilo nuclear mine cluster.

And as for the three mile trenches that are zig zagging, how can you fit more than a few battalions in them?

and another thing my ODST's aren't necicerilly main forces they are more of a guirilla tactics type of group and mostly would be hiding in the treeses and in some of the trenches with active camo(which is possible i will explain it if need be) so either your troops will not kno that im there or they will notice be stunned by seeing an 8 foot tall mechanized power suit and get shot or taken by behind from another ODST that was already hiding in wait, your assuming they have no combat skill what so ever but my ODST's have been trained in every art of stealth and know what and how to do when the time comes, your also assuming that your guys will have a clean shot but if my men are moving fast enough i beleive that your men would miss and by that time they would already have found cover.
New Empire
02-10-2005, 23:20
OOC: There is no guerilla warfare. It's fields. I've explained in the map, its pretty much like Ireland and Scotland. Heavy forests aren't for another few hundred miles. There isn't any room in the trenches for an 8 foot suit to hide without one of my men literally walking into it. That's assuming you get in the trenches, which you won't: See below.

Also, you think my men aren't going to notice your troops falling from orbit? The heat friction alone will amke them glow red, and even when they hit hte ground fully stabilized, 8 feet of armor is going to be very easy to detect. My men will know where you are before they hit the ground, and adaptive camouflage is easily defeated by the laser sights on most rifles (laser will still bounce back, giving range to the suit).

And since I can fight your guys, they won't have time to plant the mines (Which can be disabled simply by shooting at them: Nuclear bombs can't be triggered by regular damage).

I am really considering ignoring the entire ODST concept, it's not even 2030 tech, and you make it out like they can't be detected even when they fall from orbit into the middle of my forces. It's simply ridiculous.

I can tell from the way your arguments are constructed, you're basing most of this off of the HALO books and various WWII first person shooters, where you can sneak up on a bunch of guys sitting in a barn, kill 5 people and plant a satchel charge on the gun to save the day.

There is no guerilla warfare here. You can't use guerilla tactics when you're in the middle of enemy lines. Not behind them, but actually in the middle of hundreds of thousands of soldiers and their trenches, weapons, and equipment. They can see your ODSTs landing, they can see that blur of 'active camoufalge', and they can notice when an 8 foot tall battlesuit jumps into the trench (probably crushing a man or several boxes of ammunition in the process). Please stop assuming that 300 ODSTs can land in the middle of a troop formation and not be noticed.

As a note: Which takes more time? For a car to go 10 yards at 90mph or for the guy with the radar gun to change its location by an inch to hit it? Same thing with your suits and my rifles. It takes several hundred miles per hour to be moving faster than a trained soldier can aim his rifle in that direction.
Markov
05-10-2005, 22:41
OOC: ok guys, i'm soory i haven;t been able to post. I've been caught up with schoolwork. Post coming soon.