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We respectfully decline Ankhmet's control over all nations smaller than 2.3 billion population. And we like for Ankhmet to recognize our sovreignty and for other nations who dislike this rule to join us.

This is in response to their new doctrine: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=442796&page=1&pp=15

We shall treat all nations invaded by Ankhmet forces to enforce this doctrine as impromptu members and defend them. We are free nations! Self-Rule!

Members:
Leafanistan
SkyCapt
Athiesism
The Lone Alliance
Leichen
Morvonia
Luxbury
Piglatnia
Velkya
Chronosia
Ald Rhun province of Ankhmet, Hogsweatian Soviet Republic of Ankmeht, Macabee province of Ankmeht
Starenell
The Nietzschean Empire
Sonaj

I'm blissfully ignorant of this rule. What joy.

We'd like to join. If you have transport vessels, we would allow you to transport some of our troops to move them and place them under a joint military command. We currently have 70,000 combat troops plus 180,000 support troops on active duty, and we can mobilize more.

I'm blissfully ignorant of this rule. What joy.

Ankhmet has declared you a province with or without you accepting it, if you break his rules, he may lead military action against you. We ask you to join, for your protection.

Though our nation sometimes disagree with the term 'soverignty' we will not be told that we are under another control, If every one of these 'controlled' nations would attack he would be wiped off the map. We are joining.

-Lone Alliance Council

(OOC: Translation as soon as he enforces this, everyone Dogpile on him.)

As a very small nation, The Kingdom of Leichen gratefully accepts this invitation to the Alliance.

The People's Republic of Morvonia will join and provide everything this nation was,is and will be to our cause.


Alex Tselis
Prime Minister,People's Republic of Morvonia

We ask that all allied nations who control storefronts provide allied discounts for members to help them reinforce their nations.

Encrypted Communique to Leafanistan

From: DoD

We're not going to make any public reaction to Ankhmet's new doctrine, as we're afraid he's going to target the opposition first. What with the war against Doomingsland looming, we're not eager to commit military forces to fighting in a possible conflict. That said, however, we will try to commit some sort of support to this alliance, if conflict breaks out and it is deemed to be in our best interest. Try to stay low regarding Ankhmet, and you may avoid an unnecessary war.

End Encrypted Communique

Encrypted Communique to Leafanistan

From: DoD

We're not going to make any public reaction to Ankhmet's new doctrine, as we're afraid he's going to target the opposition first. What with the war against Doomingsland looming, we're not eager to commit military forces to fighting in a possible conflict. That said, however, we will try to commit some sort of support to this alliance, if conflict breaks out and it is deemed to be in our best interest. Try to stay low regarding Ankhmet, and you may avoid an unnecessary war.

End Encrypted Communique

Encrypted Response

Understand, diplomacy is our first choice, and war is our last choice. Know that this kind of declaration won't go over well. That is why we have created the League, as a protective measure. We must band together, as brethern, to protect each other. We have no other choice, alone we cannot win, together we can.

END

The Republic of Van Stone (see their thread) is apparently allied with Ankment. I am putting in place of a blockade of their nation, because it is neccessary that we stop them from growing into a military power. I ask for help from the Alliance.

The Theocratic Chemicalists of Jenrak advises that Tyler Van Stone should not be embargoed, as they have economic alliances with our nations. We also would note that the forming of the alliance is greatly out of just cause, but be careful; any movement in the name of this alliance would mean that they would view Ankhmet's crazy claims as a certain truth.

The Eternal imperium of Ankhmet refuses to accept the sovereignty of your nations. You are immature nations, nations in the throes of adolescence. We do not act on the doctrine. Consider it to be somewhere along the lines of a UN mandate to use peacekeeper forces. Now consider it to be a universal mandate that allows the UN to intervene at any time. It is just like that.

After a quick surveillance of your aims and methods, do you not find it ironic that you claim anyone who is invaded by me to be a member, regardless of wether or not they want to be?

I believe we have the UN on our side, Ankhment.

In the same way, we refuse to acknowledge the sovereignty of Ankmeht, consequently, imitating your own doctrine, we consider Ankmeht an official provence of the Empire.

How nice for you. Once more, the world show it's lack of ability to stick to a moral code. Ankhmet has been consistent, yet the world swaps and shifts. You oppose the New Doctrinal system... Yet you use it in conjunction with Ankhmet.

Entertained Provincial Minister

In the same way, we refuse to acknowledge the sovereignty of Ankmeht, consequently, imitating your own doctrine, we consider Ankmeht an official provence of the Empire.

To act on similar means, we no longer recognize the sovereignty of Ankhmet, and recognize Ankhmet as an official province of the Macabees Empire, under their new designation of Ankmeht.

Think what you want. Make up laws for Ankhmet. Have fun enforcing them.

The Empire, at some point, will enforce its rule in your provence unless a more civilized peace is agreed to. Unfortunately for you, half the members of the Borman Alliance have a greater alliance with the Golden Throne, consequently, the Borman Alliance is of little help to you. We implore you to reconsider your actions against those who are unfortunately smaller than yourself.

Think what you want. Make up laws for Ankhmet. Have fun enforcing them.

Have fun enforcing your laws.

I implore you all to view the "A new nation is born threw revolution" thread. Ankhment is preparing to initiate hostilities against a League member.

I implore you all to view the "A new nation is born threw revolution" thread. Ankhment is preparing to initiate hostilities against a League member.

For your aggressive actions against a Sovreign nation, exactly what we are against. You have done so for no good reason.

[Uhhh... You're the one who would be responsible for the initiation of hostility.]

[Uhhh... You're the one who would be responsible for the initiation of hostility.]
[OOC: Technically you've already committed several thousand acts of war.]

We are in a diffucult situation, as Hogsweat and Macabee have both claimed Ankhmet (Macabee designation: Ankmeht, Hogsweat designation: Soviet Republic of Ankmeht), which do we recognize or do we recognize both or perhaps neither?

The Kingdom of Leichen has declared its recognition of the Hogsweatian Soviet Republic of Ankhmet.

The Leafanistani Senate hearby recognizes with the blessings of High Father, that the once independent nation of Ankhmet is now considered no longer an independent nation. It is both the Macabee Imperial Province of Ankmeht and the Hogsweatian Soviet Republic of Ankhmet. If these two nations were to go to war over the contestation of their territory, we shall recognize neither for the duration of the war and will recognize the victors, though we sincerly hope you do not go to war with each other.

[OOC: Yea, it's a tricky situation for me, as well, since we're both part of this anti-Gholgoth coalition. Regardless, my love for Communist ICly isn't too great. But, then again, I'm in no position to wage war against Hogsweat for Ahkmet, and then against Ahkmet himself.]

Following New Sans acceptance of the Ankhmet declaration, the Leafanistani Senate no longer considers New Sans a nation, and shall extend the newly proposed embargo aganist the renegade territory of Ankmeht to cover New Sans territory.

OOC: Perhaps we should make a separate thread 'bout this...

bump

Why are you so apposed to his new idea? i think its a good idea a protection umbrella of sorts

Because there are so many other ways to get protection umbrellas without giving up your sovereignty.

Official Response to the League:

(Secret IC)

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VQFZQ SKJPB HAPVE MHWSL HOIRP
HYRYE DWMEJ CXXUP WZGRU RSRXJ
AVGTY ZOBMS JRNYG HAZSZ TIEGA
RVZIE BVRLH JEYTR WLZZI FXVNH
YREEY JAGZZ AXVPW GYVAC LLRHO
TGFHR OERRF WGHCV HRKSM ARGJS
ZAFEI IIGZC FEYGM USCVU QJBWB
UNFIF IEWFW GTXXX ZVBXS EOSUO
KAEFP ZVHMS TXGSV ZIFJB THLAM
TVGGP FAWXB HEUNL KAPYU SMRDT
ZZAJZ HZXUP MYJRU RSMQQ IINXL
ZZAXX XXXXX XXXXX XXXXX XXXXX


OOC: Decryption back into English so everyone's on the same page OOCly:
We will join this alliance if it comes to hostilities between the members of the SWC and Ankhmet. The Governance will be remaining neutral in this until these hostilities due to the fact that we are currently in the International Virology Foundation, an institution formed by Ankhmet. If it does unfortunately come to war, we will sever ties with the IVF and aid our allies.

Official Response to the League:

(Secret IC)

YSNVX LAJQA KVAWN WPLEE JSAJV
VQFZQ SKJPB HAPVE MHWSL HOIRP
HYRYE DWMEJ CXXUP WZGRU RSRXJ
AVGTY ZOBMS JRNYG HAZSZ TIEGA
RVZIE BVRLH JEYTR WLZZI FXVNH
YREEY JAGZZ AXVPW GYVAC LLRHO
TGFHR OERRF WGHCV HRKSM ARGJS
ZAFEI IIGZC FEYGM USCVU QJBWB
UNFIF IEWFW GTXXX ZVBXS EOSUO
KAEFP ZVHMS TXGSV ZIFJB THLAM
TVGGP FAWXB HEUNL KAPYU SMRDT
ZZAJZ HZXUP MYJRU RSMQQ IINXL
ZZAXX XXXXX XXXXX XXXXX XXXXX


OOC: Decryption back into English so everyone's on the same page OOCly:
We will join this alliance if it comes to hostilities between the members of the SWC and Ankhmet. The Governance will be remaining neutral in this until these hostilities due to the fact that we are currently in the International Virology Foundation, an institution formed by Ankhmet. If it does unfortunately come to war, we will sever ties with the IVF and aid our allies.

OOC: Sadly, I know exactly what is going on.

As you should have seen on my posts on the doctrine thread i am against this so i have decided to join this alience or group or whatever you would call it.

Occ: Hopefully I'll be able to add some actual life to this soon. :p

As a gesture of good will, Ald Rhun would like to donate it's new province of Ankhmet to this alliance. For proof of my claim, see attached post.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9603536&postcount=165

The Eternal imperium of Ankhmet refuses to accept the sovereignty of your nations. You are immature nations, nations in the throes of adolescence. We do not act on the doctrine. Consider it to be somewhere along the lines of a UN mandate to use peacekeeper forces. Now consider it to be a universal mandate that allows the UN to intervene at any time. It is just like that.

After a quick surveillance of your aims and methods, do you not find it ironic that you claim anyone who is invaded by me to be a member, regardless of wether or not they want to be?

-Message from Velkyan High Command-

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/157678/2/Middle_finger.jpg

-High Command Out-

OOC: We would like to join this treaty as well.

The Imperium pledges its support to the League.

bump

The Serene Death extends its, and all other nations' right to sovereignty by supporting the League, though we will not join it. We will send non-military aid if it be deemed necessary by ourselves. The Serene Death will also seize or destroy any Ankhmet vessels entering our territory, as well as any encountered outside of our territory by any governmental vessels.

Freddy Summers
Dominar of Defense

We thank all new league members and the Serene Death for their support.

[Okay, you seem to be dragging me into this FT'ly.]


We would like to point out to 'The Serene Death' that the construction of a new Galaxy-Dreadnought class ships is nearing completion, and that it could be within your home system within a day of completion. Do not start fights you cannot win, or even sustain for very long.

Official Imperial Statment:

As we are currently allied to Ankhmet we can not support this alliance. However if Ankhmet decides to take action upon our allies or other UNA members, we shall support you in stopping him. If a nation not allied to us attempts to war with Ankhmet, dont be surprised to find Borman soldiers assisting Ankhmet.

Starenell would like to join.

Starenell would like to join.

Welcome.

The Nietzschean Empire shall join to assure its own survival in the face of kludge aggression.

The Nietzschean Empire shall join to assure its own survival in the face of kludge aggression.

We welcome yet another ally.

[Okay, you seem to be dragging me into this FT'ly.]


We would like to point out to 'The Serene Death' that the construction of a new Galaxy-Dreadnought class ships is nearing completion, and that it could be within your home system within a day of completion. Do not start fights you cannot win, or even sustain for very long.

Don't worry, we'll send the Oured II. 3.5 miles of death.

Are we going to fight him or something?

They're too scared. Im on the front line with Ankhment while they sit around and pick their ass. :mp5:

Count me in. ;)

We are a mutual defense pact. We need to keep balance of power.

Siesatia pledges to aid this alliance, and will push to have all members of the Triad alliance to participate on our side. We dissagree with Ankmet's imperialist actions, and shall participate in its destruction should negotiations fail.

Me along with every other nation in my regoin had no idea of this clame to rule and refuse to acknowledge it. Me and the rest of the nations in New Transalvania are all 100% independant.

Head of the Federation
Ivan Vladmir

New Sans is rebelling, and is now split. A General Gorian is rebelling against Ankhmet, and is opposed by General Minér. General Gorian is requesting aid to win New Sans' independance. I think now would be a good time for the LoSN to do something...

New Sans is rebelling, and is now split. A General Gorian is rebelling against Ankhmet, and is opposed by General Minér. General Gorian is requesting aid to win New Sans' independance. I think now would be a good time for the LoSN to do something...

If Ankmeht directly assists, we will intervene, they accepted it voluntarily, we shall interfere with them if its voluntary.

[Okay, you seem to be dragging me into this FT'ly.]


We would like to point out to 'The Serene Death' that the construction of a new Galaxy-Dreadnought class ships is nearing completion, and that it could be within your home system within a day of completion. Do not start fights you cannot win, or even sustain for very long.

It would be interesting to see your new ship take on our 3 Sovereign-class Star Destroyers guarding our capital, along with our other defensive ships and systems around the capital. Please stop threatening us when you have already stirred up the hornets' nest.

Freddy Summers
Dominar of Defense

Regardless of the 'hornet's nest' I'm just poining out that you're far too small to threaten a nation of over 2 billion people, with a budget massively outstripping yours.

To Whom It May Concern,
The Roman Empire ofm Streleheim hereby requests admission into the League of Sovereign Nations. Additionally, we would like to also note that we do not recognize Ankhmetian self-rule. We do, however, recognize the Macabees' claim to Ankhmetian sovereignty and that if, at any time, the Macabees should require assistance in pacifying, stabilizing, or enforcing laws within their province of Ankhmet, they can call upon the full military might of the Roman Empire of Streleheim.

Have a nice day,
His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Constantinius Castamir III, Caesar Basileus Augustus, Imperator Romanorium Germanorium et Graecorium, Protector of the Highlands, Sultan of Haradistan, Defender of the Rhomanii Catholic Faith, King of Kings and Lord of Lords, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, Elect of God, Lord of the Rhomanii

'Full military might'. Laughable. Your claim to sovereignty is void, as you are an Ankhmeti province.

Well, seeing as Ankhmet IS in fact a province of the Macabees, I don't really have that problem. Also, on the note of our "laughable" military might, as you have never seen it in action AND the information of the Streleheim Website is completely incorrect and outdated, you have no way of knowing that it is laughable [OOC: I actually apologize for this and will have updated the website within the next RL day or so].

Have a nice day,
His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Constantinius Castamir III, Caesar Basileus Augustus, Imperator Romanorium Germanorium et Graecorium, Protector of the Highlands, Sultan of Haradistan, Defender of the Rhomanii Catholic Church, King of Kings and Lord of Lords, Conquering Lion of the Tribe of Judah, Elect of God, Lord of the Rhomanii

'Full military might'. Laughable. Your claim to sovereignty is void, as you are an Ankhmeti province.

And your claim to sovereignty is void, as you are a Dominion province. See I can do it, too. What you are saying is just words.

~ The God-Emperor Count JWolf

OOC: @Strelheim: regarding your signature. You can't use html tags with Jolt. Switch it out with this format: (URL=www.yoursite.com)text(/URL).

(Encrypted Message, to all Future Tech Nations)
To the Esteemed Leaders of the Sovereign Nations-

While we at Gadget Corporation are not, in actuality, a "nation" of any sort, we understand your, shall we say, situation, and are willing to assist you by providing your armies with equipment to combat the Ankhmet(ian?) forces, should the need arise. We await your response on whether or not you would accept this gift from us.

Signed, Dinar Jetz
CEO of Gadget Corporation

Sonaj will join this league. We have also stated to the so-called ruler that we reject his doctrine.

OOC: A full armament of ignores are ready against any attack made by him upon us.

If Ankmeht directly assists, we will intervene, they accepted it voluntarily, we shall interfere with them if its voluntary.

The Ankhmeti Foreign Office would like to point out that Ankhmeti assistance of the Provincial Government is fully legal, whilst your intervention would be against internation al law.

And your claim to sovereignty is void, as you are a Dominion province. See I can do it, too. What you are saying is just words.

~ The God-Emperor Count JWolf

Please not that I was willing to EXCEPT you from the order, due to your participation in certain organisations. Consider it. Ankhmet would have no qualms in using any weapon should war turn against us.

STRELELHEIM: I guarantee Ankhmet can bring much greater force to bear on you.

OOC: Thanks for letting me know about the signature thingy, Ald Rhun. I didnt notice because for some wierd reason, I cant see signatures when I log in. So, thanks...

[Streheleim:

1. Go to profile, then go to options, then click on the radio button that allows you to see signatures. On default, you can't see signatures on these forums.

2. The code for URL doesn't use parenthesis (), switch them out with brackets [].]

OOC: Thank you also to the Macabees...

The Ankhmeti Foreign Office would like to point out that Ankhmeti assistance of the Provincial Government is fully legal, whilst your intervention would be against internation al law.

Check your Tg's. Also would anyone object to my posting a link to the thread in here, or would you rather I not do that.

OOC: There is already a link in the opening statement.

OOC: There is already a link in the opening statement.

OOC: I mean the one where there is a rebellion in my country inorder to leave Ankhmet's provincal rule.

Is there any point in this alliance? Can't you just say you'll attack Ankhment if he attacks anyone at all? Sounds like a giant spam to me.

Put us down half-heartedly. When he attacks some nations we may not help, or we may help.

Please not that I was willing to EXCEPT you from the order, due to your participation in certain organisations. Consider it. Ankhmet would have no qualms in using any weapon should war turn against us.

OOC: You don’t get it. I’m saying that your words mean nothing to ‘your’ provinces.

I believe we have the UN on our side, Ankhment.What is this? The UN intervenes in international conflicts now? Are we witnessing a dramatic shift of Surrender Monkeys policy, or just the serene petulance of a newb?

No matter. We declare our intention to join this august alliance, as the supreme arrogance embodied in Ankhmet's New Doctrine threatens our own designs on all the nations she has claimed.

In addition, we condemn Athiesism's untoward assault on Tyler Van Stone, and lend all diplomatic and political support to the infant republic's right to act in its own defense, and if this includes taking on Ankhmet as an ally, so be it. We would also note that TVS has not attacked or threatened anyone; Athiesism simply decided that its own values superceded those of TVS, since the latter is not a democratic nation.

We also recognize The Macabees' claims to the Ankhmeti nation.

Understand, however, that in adopting all these varying, and possibly contradictory, positions, the Psychotic Knightslyers of Lois-Must-Die's concurrent enforcement of all of them may well result in our nation accidentally declaring war upon itself. In such a case, we would request that Ankhmet declare war on us, so that we may win the assistance of the League.

Thank you.

Take us off the list, we're done with this scenario.

OOC: If Ankhmet attacks you and your allied to me feel free to TG for help.

-Message from Allied States High Command to Ankmet Government-

F**k off. Come and try to impose your "laws" on us. We dare you.

-Allied State HighCom Out-

Political Rally, Horus Square, Ankh

Speech by Johan Weishaupt, Excerpt:

"... and the bullish nations of the world act like fools! An official response to the New Doctrine from the pathetic nation of Velkya consisted of the words 'fuck off'! Are we as an Imperium supposed to accept the threats and strong-arm tactics of these buffoons? NEVER! Ankhmet will not remove the New Doctrine under ANY circumstances, and that I promise to you as your leader! The nations of the world need to know that they cannot bully us into submitting to their outdated antique values systems. We are Ankhmet, we are the future! Whilst others are ravaged by disease and hunger, the Mu-16 virus ended the major contagions and the UC produces a near-endless supply of food! This goes to show that the moral and political systems of Ankhmet are superior to those who consider themselves our betters. For example, The Macabees. Right-wing scum who DARE to copy the Sacred New Doctrine! Within hours of the Doctrine's release the Golden Throne of the Damned dared to claim Ankhmet as a Province of THEIR DAMNED DOMINION OF HELL! It is clear that we are under threat from the tinpot dictators and paper tigers of th world. That is why I must give this order with a heavy heart. All men and women over 17 not involved in UC maintenance, manufacturing and government-approved work are to report tot heir local base, where they will recieve military training, in preparation for what may come. Fear not, citizens of Ankhmet, for your leaders care greatly for your welfare, and we will do nothing to harm you. AVE ILLUMINATUS!"

-Message from Velkyan Allied High Command-

We mean every word. Anyone who threatens the sovereignty of Velkya is considered an enemy of the highest order, and is gravely mistaken when they call us pathetic. The Velkyan military has been upgraded to DEFCON 2, and all nonessaintal forces have been recalled. All ADC allies are also asked to highten their alerts, as a attack on a member is an attack on all. Your imperialism will be your downfall, Ankhmet.

-VAHC Out-

OOC: The VAHC has a reputation for being a tough bunch of generals. So expect rougher repsonses.

-Message to Leadership of Velkya-

I could not care less wether or not you are sincere. To strike the first blow would be sheer madness.

Screw you,
Johan Weishaupt

-Message from Velkyan Allied High Command-

We are waiting for you to hit first. To not enforce your own laws would be a sign of weakness, no doubt. By this time, looks like your pretty weak, having all these nations basically throw up their middle fingers at you when you declare they are your sovreign territory. Right now, we have more pressing matters than your empty laws and threats.

-VAHC Out-

-Eye-Rolling Response-

Perhaps you are all too stupid to realise the intention behind this.

I don't have to enforce it. It's an option, but I don't have to.

The USSHR will cede 75% of it's Ankhmeti claims to The Macabees to put an end to any argument that may arise from the interesting situation.

How generous of you. :rolleyes:

The Federated Oligarchy of The Most Glorious Hack has decided not to recognize the sovereignty of Ankhmet, as it has a pathetic population of less than five billion citizens. Any such tiny nation is clearly worthless, and not even worthy of contempt, let alone self-governance.

In other words, there's always someone bigger, Mr. Compensation. Quit acting like a jackass on the national stage.

- Dargan Zaraad, Office of Unofficial Official Statements
The Federated Technocratic Oligarchy of the Most Glorious Hack

You're quite right, there is always someone bigger.

Oh, and I can tell you I am compensating for nothing, thank you very much.

Johan Weishaupt,
Pissed-off Imperator