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Military Coup in Torontia! Democracy Abolished!

Torontia
07-09-2005, 02:49
Historical Background to the Military Coup.

It has been three years since the collapse of the Paul Kaufman regime in Torontia and the end of the Torontian civil war which occured before his regime fell apart.

The civil war was led by Torontia's poor and working class who rose up against the complete lack of freedom and grinding poverty that were features of Kaufmans 17 year dictatorship.

Under the threat of an international invasion and many nation's outraged at Kaufmans orders to kill over a 1000 students at the University of Seattle, in the capital city of Seattle, Kaufman agreed to abolish his dictatorial system and hold elections, with the rebel leader from the civil war, Jack Norton, being his main opposition.

The presidential elections that took place three years ago gave Torontia's current president, Jack Norton, a lead over Paul Kaufman in the polls. Before the elections came to an end, Kaufman fled the nation with 78 billion USD that he had stolen from Torontia's financial reserves and then fled to Leafanistan.

However Leafanistan betrayed him and handed Kaufman over to Allenmande, a nation which lost 31 of it's students in the Univeristy massacre and they then had Kaufman tried for various crimes of mass murder and crimes against humanity.

Kaufman is still in trial in Allenmande and has yet to have his sentence given to him.

Back in Torontia, Norton's government has been characterised by cronic incompetence, not out of any fault of it's own, but by the sheer scale of damage done in the civil war.

The Torontian economy is in tatters with a high rate of unemployment and very low levels of productivity. The once powerful financial sector that thrived under Kaufman is now nothing but history and international investment has all but dried up.

Taking advantage of the freedoms that multi party democracy had given to Torontia, trade unions made strike after strike and pushed the Norton government towards a more socialistic course and to increase social spending.

With the economy failing, this meant the government borrowing huge sums of money and thus the national debt is now over 795 billion USD.

Since civil liberties have been given to Torontians in the wake of the Kaufman dictatorships collapse, crime has now skyrocketed and combined with the lack of a working economy, this has made many parts of Torontia's cities no go areas full of prostitution, pimping, drug dealing and addiction and theft of all types.

Several far left groups have also now gone into terrorism to try and push though a revolution as they now accuse Norton of selling out and moderating his old far left beliefs now he is in office.

Meanwhile supporters of the old Kaufman regime have decided that with the economy in collapse, the high rate of political and criminal violence and the inability of the Norton government to do anything, that their time is now right to get rid of their sworn enemy, Norton, and bring back the New Order, the fascist system that Kaufman had built up during his time in office.
Aequatio
07-09-2005, 03:00
OOC: A Tag, if you will.
Halberdgardia
07-09-2005, 03:02
OOC: You can bet your ass I'm tagging this. One way or another, this is going to involve me, so I might as well keep an eye on things...
Torontia
07-09-2005, 03:13
Official Bulletin-Torontian Republican News Agency (TRNA)

National Emergency Broadcast to citizens of the Republic of Torontia

Dear compatriots and citizens of Torontia.

This is a message from the Military Council for National Unity (MCNU).

The MCNU has been formed by patriotic forces within the Torontian Armed Forces who have made an oath of loyalty to uphold and defend the Republic of Torontia and to see off the many enemies of our Republic who wish to enslave us to their vile plots.

However not all enemies are external.

The main enemy of our nation is now the very government that claims to rule and represent Torontia.

Jack Norton has only been in office for three years after the departure of the Great Leader of our nation, H.E. Paul Kaufman, left our nation under terrorist threats.

Norton has allowed Torontia to become a third world state with an economy in total collapse and where nations refuse to even invest or trade with us because we have no economy for which they could work with.

Our national debt is an outrage, even more so that the debt was used to fund the illegitimate lifestyles of the decadent and morally bankrupt so-called poor. These people are only poor for they are parasites who refuse to work or serve the nation and sit down to expect handouts from the state, even if that means putting our nation into great debt.

Crime and disorder is also out of control and the levels of terrorism are now on a level so great that another civil war is near. However our actions today will put and end to the communist threat and the vile plots of the gangster communist terrorists who plan to take control and enslave us under their satanic gangster grip.

The Torontian Armed Forces are now under the direct command of the MCNU and the MCNU will now rule the nation and take control of all governmental functions.

The government of Jack Norton is now gone. Jack Norton is under arrest and awaiting punishment. The Norton cabinet is dissolved and all officials from the Norton regime are under arrest and have been sent to prison camps and soon the prison camps will be full of all subversive elements and enemies of the Torontian Republic.

The following regulations have been approved and put in place by the MCNU:

1.) All political parties, pressure groups, NGOs, trade unions and community groups are now ILLEGAL. The penalty for membership of any of these groupings is DEATH.

2.) All citizens who speak ill of the MCNU or the Kaufman era will be EXECUTED.

3.) Protests, strikes and petitioning is now ILLEGAL.

4.) All citizens who fail to co-operate with the MCNU, the security forces and all citizens who do NOT report anti government activity will be EXECUTED on the grounds of high treason.

5.) Homosexuality, prostitution, drug dealing, drug abuse, pimping, gambling, stealing, rape and murder are now crimes and punishable by DEATH.

May Torontia unite behind our great vision for a prosperous, secure and united future that will benfit all people.

Long Live Torontia and the MCNU!

Chairman of the MCNU and President of the Republic of Torontia

Colonel Vader Tanakis
Leafanistan
07-09-2005, 03:22
The Mafia took great interest, another oppurtunity to sell weapons.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=442197

The link to their storefront was sent via a secure channel.
Torontia
07-09-2005, 03:41
Bump
Torontia
07-09-2005, 14:00
bump
Red Tide2
07-09-2005, 22:08
OOC:Pray that people do not dogpile you... ;)

Anywho, if a war DOES begin, I usually am unavalable(sp?) on weekdays because of school, so please WAIT for me.

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"We whole heartedly support this new goverment and condemn the previous communist goverment. We will help train your military and ask the Tech-Com Corporation to sell you weapons."
End Message

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Swedish Dominions
07-09-2005, 22:29
To: Chairman of the MCNU and President of the Republic of Torontia, Colonel Vader Tanakis
From: King Gustav V Adolph of the Swedish Dominions

"Dear Chairman, It has come to our attention that your nation is on the path of destruction. We have decided, in order to prevent Communism and such plauges from spreading in the world that we shall send our Imperial Armies to spread the ideals of Parliamentarian democracy and welfare. This has been a warning. If you don't decide to withdraw these proposterous laws at once, then you will receive an offical declaration of war from the Parliament."

Yours sincerely

King Gustav V Adolph
Torontia
07-09-2005, 22:50
From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Swedish Dominions

Your nation has displayed to the world it's total lack of intelligence and it's sheer stupidity!

You think that our government will cause the spread of the communist plague, think again!

The MCNU is the legal government of Torontia and we have made MANY advances in the crusade against the communist plague.

The MCNU has rounded up all socialists, communists, anarchists, trade unionists, beggars, prostitutes, homosexuals and other left wing vermin and we have now begun executing them or putting them into labour camps.

Democracy and the welfare state are the twin pillars of pure evil that lead to communism.

Torontia is dismantling it's welfare system and democracy has been abolished to account for the fact that ONLY a strong military ruled government with a free market neo-conservative ideology is the ONLY way forward for our great nation.

Stand down your threats as we have allies and our nation has ample supplies of chemical and biological weapons and if attacked we will use them!

Think before opening your mouth, Swedish communist dogs and sodomite perverts!

Chairman of the MCNU and President of the Republic of Torontia

Colonel Vader Tanakis
Leafanistan
07-09-2005, 22:58
Not that we like dictator ships, but your type of government has just the corrupt atmosphere for us to prevail. Anywho, this makes it easier to get arms to you. Just ring us up.

-CANNOT TRACE TRANSMISSION ROUTE, PACKET FLOOD, SUDDEN LOSS

Signed,
Black Hand Mafia

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=442197
McKagan
07-09-2005, 22:59
Official Message from Secretary of State

Please desist in your NAZI style tactics and FASCIST politics. If you do not cease executions at once, we will begin assembling an 'observation force' to project our presence off your coast.
Red Tide2
07-09-2005, 23:05
Official Statement From Red Tide Goverment
"Any attempt to violate the lawful goverment of Torontias soveriegnty will be looked most unkindly upon by the Red Tide Goverment. Any attempt by a nation to impose its will upon Torontia will warrant the rapid deployment of troops to defend Torontia."
End Message
Tyler_Van_Stone
07-09-2005, 23:09
Join Ankhmet like i did you gain a free hand in milliatry And A loop hole in the Geneva convention since I am no longer a leader I can finally have a free hand and wage war at its finest …………total war
Leafanistan
07-09-2005, 23:11
Join Ankhmet like i did you gain a free hand in milliatry And A loop hole in the Geneva convention since I am no longer a leader I can finally have a free hand and wage war at its finest …………total war

What is this Geneva convention you speak of? Is Total war never the war of choice?
Torontia
07-09-2005, 23:16
From: The Republic of Torontia

To: McKagan

Your demands are unreasonable and will be ignored by the government of Torontia.

It is also apparent that the McKagan government does not understand the situation at hand in Torontia.

The MCNU is a military ruled government that will ONLY remian in power until the legitimate President of Torontia, Mr. Paul Kaufman is freed from his trial in Allenmande and will then return to Torontia to retake his position as head of state.

Our government only seeks to see that constitutional legality is observed in Torontia and that the people you claim we are abusing are in fact criminals in Torontian law as stated in the orginal Torontian constitution that was drafted by President Kaufman.

The constitution that the terrorist leader, Jack Norton made was an illegal document and that it will be ignored in favour of the legal constitution that was present beforehand.

Torontia would also like to point out that McKagan has GOOD relations with President Hafez al Assad of Arabanistan, yet Arabanistan's political system in nearly the same as the MCNU system and Arabanistan ALSO punishes the very same people we are punishing.

Prehaps McKagan will now see this and realise that the people we are dealing with a real criminals and that McKagan should follow the shining example of Torontia and Arabanistan and that you cleanse your own nation of these evil people.

Chairman of the MCNU and President of the Republic of Torontia

Colonel Vader Tanakis
Tyler_Van_Stone
07-09-2005, 23:19
my version of total war is simple kill every thing that is your nations enemy kill there soldiers no prisoners kill the woman kill there children kill there old kill there sick kill there live stock kill every think that susstanes the nation then kill the nation it self
McKagan
07-09-2005, 23:26
From: The Republic of Torontia

To: McKagan

Your demands are unreasonable and will be ignored by the government of Torontia.

It is also apparent that the McKagan government does not understand the situation at hand in Torontia.

The MCNU is a military ruled government that will ONLY remian in power until the legitimate President of Torontia, Mr. Paul Kaufman is freed from his trial in Allenmande and will then return to Torontia to retake his position as head of state.

Our government only seeks to see that constitutional legality is observed in Torontia and that the people you claim we are abusing are in fact criminals in Torontian law as stated in the orginal Torontian constitution that was drafted by President Kaufman.

The constitution that the terrorist leader, Jack Norton made was an illegal document and that it will be ignored in favour of the legal constitution that was present beforehand.

Torontia would also like to point out that McKagan has GOOD relations with President Hafez al Assad of Arabanistan, yet Arabanistan's political system in nearly the same as the MCNU system and Arabanistan ALSO punishes the very same people we are punishing.

Prehaps McKagan will now see this and realise that the people we are dealing with a real criminals and that McKagan should follow the shining example of Torontia and Arabanistan and that you cleanse your own nation of these evil people.

Chairman of the MCNU and President of the Republic of Torontia

Colonel Vader Tanakis

Response

Our comments are not fully meant to be taken the way you seem to have. You see, while we DO recognize Torontia as a sovereign nation, and WILL NOT launch an invasion to correct the moral injustices we see. However, all nations in the international community are not as forgiving. We were simply trying to defuse the situation before he "got hot," and were not looking to permanatly derail the following of the nations constitution.

However, this nation is one where the only gods are the lead singers in metal/hairbands. With that said, you probably understand the rest of the general atmosphere. For us to execute all the people YOU see "unfit," would be to decrease our population in upwards of 40 percent.
Torontia
07-09-2005, 23:34
(OOC)

BTW MCKagan.

While Colonel Tanakis may be far-right and fascistic, he is NOT a nazi as Torontia's leader is BLACK!

Torontia is a dicatorial version of the USA and the majority of the population in Torontia is white but there is a 25% African American population, of which Tanakis is from.

Torontia is made up of the RL states of Washington, Oregon and in Canada, BC.

Seattle is the capital.

Oh and Kaufman is white.
McKagan
07-09-2005, 23:37
(OOC)

BTW MCKagan.

While Colonel Tanakis may be far-right and fascistic, he is NOT a nazi as Torontia's leader is BLACK!

Torontia is a dicatorial version of the USA and the majority of the population in Torontia is white but there is a 25% African American population, of which Tanakis is from.

Torontia is made up of the RL states of Washington, Oregon and in Canada, BC.

Seattle is the capital.

Oh and Kaufman is white.

I knew all of that except the dude being black. But that still doesn't affect the term "Nazi STYLE tactics," anyway.
The Macabees
07-09-2005, 23:52
[tag]
10790
08-09-2005, 00:25
Official Bulletin-Torontian Republican News Agency (TRNA)

National Emergency Broadcast to citizens of the Republic of Torontia

Dear compatriots and citizens of Torontia.

This is a message from the Military Council for National Unity (MCNU).

The MCNU has been formed by patriotic forces within the Torontian Armed Forces who have made an oath of loyalty to uphold and defend the Republic of Torontia and to see off the many enemies of our Republic who wish to enslave us to their vile plots.

However not all enemies are external.

The main enemy of our nation is now the very government that claims to rule and represent Torontia.

Jack Norton has only been in office for three years after the departure of the Great Leader of our nation, H.E. Paul Kaufman, left our nation under terrorist threats.

Norton has allowed Torontia to become a third world state with an economy in total collapse and where nations refuse to even invest or trade with us because we have no economy for which they could work with.

Our national debt is an outrage, even more so that the debt was used to fund the illegitimate lifestyles of the decadent and morally bankrupt so-called poor. These people are only poor for they are parasites who refuse to work or serve the nation and sit down to expect handouts from the state, even if that means putting our nation into great debt.

Crime and disorder is also out of control and the levels of terrorism are now on a level so great that another civil war is near. However our actions today will put and end to the communist threat and the vile plots of the gangster communist terrorists who plan to take control and enslave us under their satanic gangster grip.

The Torontian Armed Forces are now under the direct command of the MCNU and the MCNU will now rule the nation and take control of all governmental functions.

The government of Jack Norton is now gone. Jack Norton is under arrest and awaiting punishment. The Norton cabinet is dissolved and all officials from the Norton regime are under arrest and have been sent to prison camps and soon the prison camps will be full of all subversive elements and enemies of the Torontian Republic.

The following regulations have been approved and put in place by the MCNU:

1.) All political parties, pressure groups, NGOs, trade unions and community groups are now ILLEGAL. The penalty for membership of any of these groupings is DEATH.

2.) All citizens who speak ill of the MCNU or the Kaufman era will be EXECUTED.

3.) Protests, strikes and petitioning is now ILLEGAL.

4.) All citizens who fail to co-operate with the MCNU, the security forces and all citizens who do NOT report anti government activity will be EXECUTED on the grounds of high treason.

5.) Homosexuality, prostitution, drug dealing, drug abuse, pimping, gambling, stealing, rape and murder are now crimes and punishable by DEATH.

May Torontia unite behind our great vision for a prosperous, secure and united future that will benfit all people.

Long Live Torontia and the MCNU!

Chairman of the MCNU and President of the Republic of Torontia

Colonel Vader TanakisColonel Tanakis, the Dictatorship of 10790 recognizes your government and your honorable new laws as permanent. As a token of frienship I offer you a place in the Union of Fascist Dictatorships. For security reasons the region is protected by a password, if you wish to join please inform me and I will wire you the password.

The Dictator of 10790

Big Brother
The Lone Alliance
08-09-2005, 00:41
To: The Republic of Torontia
From: The Lone Alliance
Message: Like Hell you will.

We will not stand for this act! We, who stood up to your idiotic former leader, will not let him back into Torontia. We will kill him first. Though our forces are spread thin, I am sending a message my Colony forces, Prepare to be defeated, again. -Minister of International Equality
Torontia
08-09-2005, 01:01
From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Lone Alliance

Your pathetic excuse for a nation will always be remebered by Torontia for overthrowing the legal government of President Kaufman and the three years our nation suffered under the terrorist grip of Jack Norton.

Your vile, plagued nation of communist dogs and homosexual perverts is now powerless to do anything against us and our nation is now on the path to greatness, growth and everlasting glory.

The MCNU has now crushed the communist conspiracy and all subversives in our nation our now being dealt with.

The MCNU has also now made the preparations needed for Mr. Kaufman's freedom and for his return to Torontia where he WILL take up his position as the legal president of Torontia.

Torontia has powerful allies and our government has obtained the support from the international community.

Don't pick a war you know you will never win, this time Torontia will wipe our vile nation of the face of the earth should you try anything against us!

Chairman of the MCNU and President of the Republic of Torontia

Colonel Vader Tanakis
Red Tide2
08-09-2005, 01:05
Official Statement From The Goverment of Red Tide
"In light of the imperialistic actions of the rogue nation of The Lone Alliance, we are deploying(with Torontias permission) the 7th Corp and the 8th Carrier Battlegroup to Torontia."
End Message
The Lone Alliance
08-09-2005, 01:05
Message to: Torontia
From: The Lone Alliance
Title: Fine

You will all suffer then. Starting with you Colonel Vader Tanakis. You will never get your Dictator Kaufman back. NEVER! And don't call people homosexual unless they are Jackass.


Message to: Redtide2
From: The Lone Alliance
Title: If you know what's good for you.
You will stay out of this, this has been between Torontia and our Nation for a long time, never for imperialism, we could care less what happens but Paul Kauffman will not be released to these People. Don't you continue to support those Facist scum that rot this fair world. At any rate we are stepping out of this battle currently, we leave this situation in the Command of The Lone Alliance Colonies.
Red Tide2
08-09-2005, 01:10
Official Response
"We will not withdraw our troops. You are clearly aggressing against a soveriegn nation. You were the aggressor against the original legitimate goverment run by Paul Kaufman, we would have supported him directly had we found out about it. We will not back down and let it fall to communist imperialism."
End Message
Aequatio
08-09-2005, 01:18
The Aequatian Republic refuses to recognize the military junta of Colonel Vader Tanakis as Torontia's legitimate government which is attempting to wrestle control of a nation through unlawful means and bully tactics, and as such, we will be treating your administration as a terrorist organization and will do whatever we see fit to maintain world stability, which includes the arrest and trial of you and your subordinates.

We are willing to support the actions already undertaken by the nation of The Lone Alliance, with their permission allowing, to deploy our own military forces to Torontia.

Elsa Berger,
President and Head of State,
Federal Republic of Aequatio
Torontia
08-09-2005, 01:18
(OOC)

Check out the new thread on war between Torontia and LA
McKagan
08-09-2005, 01:22
Because other nations are creating military presence in the area, we feel the need to send an observational/peacekeeping force. As such:

1 Titan Class Aircraft Carrier
5 Praefele Class Destroyers
7 Eagle Class Heavy Cruisers
20 Munter class Destroyer's (ooc: I bought these things en masse and forgot about them)
3 Peninsular Class Trimaran Pocket Battleship's
1 Twin Springs Class Amphibious Assault Ship
11 South Sea Class Frigates
8 Cobalt Class SSN's
2 Tower Class SSBN's

These forces WILL remain outside of Torontia's national waters (30KM's is what we're recognizing), unless that government of said nation allows us to enter. At which point we will enter.

(OOC: I've not really done anything for a while, dammit, BIG NAVY.)
Delassina
08-09-2005, 01:24
The Grand Duchy of Delassina supports the new government of Torontia, and recognises its legitimacy, hoping that we can engender relations with the new government as quickly as possible, hoping that it can bring itself quite fully out of the malaise that it has suffered under previous leaders, to the mutual benefit of both of our nations. We enquire as to the suitability of an exchange of ambassadors, noting of course the need to stabilise the nation at this most crucial time in the development of Torontia, but also recognising the need for most firm and trustworthy links with the outside world to stabilise the new government.

We hope you shall take this under consideration.

Lord Thantersley of Handerex and Chipping Tealth,
First Lord of the Realm of Delassina.
Torontia
08-09-2005, 01:24
(OOC)

Why is it whenever i make a nation or do something in II, it all ends up in big wars and millions of dead people eveywhere???

Other nations go fascist yet get away with it, when i go fascist WW3 breaks out!
Halberdgardia
08-09-2005, 01:25
To: "Colonel" Vader Tanakis of the Republic of Torontia
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, the Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Re: Coup

The Imperium will stand by the sentiments of the Federal Republic of Aequatio regarding the new Torontian government. You, "Colonel," are nothing but another generic fascist dictator who would enslave your people and repeat the mass-murder atrocities committed by your damnable predecessor, Paul Kaufman. The Imperium hereby imposes a total embargo on the Republic of Torontia until you repeal your medieval "security measures." You are under watch by a variety of entities; I would tread lightly if I were you.

Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia

(OOC)

Why is it whenever i make a nation or do something in II, it all ends up in big wars and millions of dead people eveywhere???

Other nations go fascist yet get away with it, when i go fascist WW3 breaks out!

[OOC: Because we're watching for it, and because you're not exactly subtle with your regimes. It doesn't really help that you routinely enslave or execute all perceived "dissidents" in your countries, and your inflammatory remarks regarding homosexuals is pushing it a bit in the eyes of some, even if they're only IC remarks and not your actual opinion.]
Torontia
08-09-2005, 01:34
From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Halberdgardia

What a joke your vile nation has become!

Your insults against President Kaufman show the collective insanity that runs through your so-called government.

Furthermore, Torontia will not be lectured by a nation who has a homosexual deviant as a head of state. It is WELL KNOWN by all Torontians that Kir Kanos goes around high schools molesting young males and engagning in activities most humans would regard as depraved and criminal.

But then again that is what your so-called 'president' is, a homosexual pervert criminal and a molester!

And then there is Kenix Kil, the communist gangster terrorist who goes around the world and walks over nations for your vile plans of communist rule and the creation of a global tyranny!

You embargo is nothing and if we see your ships even near our waters we will be more than happy to blow them into hell where they belong as your homosexual invested navy will soon join with your nations founder and real leader, Lucifer!

May God curse and smite your vile nation and may your nation leave this world and go back into Hell where you all belong!

Chairman of the MCNU and President of the Republic of Torontia

Colonel Vader Tanakis
SkyCapt
08-09-2005, 01:39
OOC: May I remind you that Halberdgardia is well over a month ahead of yours.

IC:
To: Torontia
From: The Incorporated States of SkyCapt

If you go to war with the Lone Alliance or Halberdgardia we will be there. We may be spread thin, but troops can be recalled, fleets moved into war zones, and new armies created.

High Command Staff
Presidential Cabinet
Torontia
08-09-2005, 01:42
(OOC)

Im really happy that the SWC is now WEAKER as it no longer includes Willink.

Fuck I pulled of my 1st victory against the SWC in the Arabanistan/Willink war and now Hal and others are not that strong.

Only a few more wars and you lot are gone!
Red Tide2
08-09-2005, 01:44
OOC:Alright guys, Lone Alliance chickened out on his invasion plan. He said he wanted a cold war rp instead. So... yeah, whatever.
Torontia
08-09-2005, 01:45
Hah, cowards the lot of them!
Red Tide2
08-09-2005, 01:46
OOC: :sighs: Torontia, my I please ask you NOT to go off half-cocked, you will never get a decent foothold that way.
SkyCapt
08-09-2005, 01:49
OOC: I rather want to fight... Now Lone Alliance has let me down...
The Lone Alliance
08-09-2005, 01:51
Hah, cowards the lot of them!
OOC: If I do make an Invasion I'll let everyone know. But I wouldn't invade while I'm doing another war. Perhaps afterwards.

IC: We concur that we will not be directly attacking, however we will be keeping close eye on the Trial as we said you will never let you have
Paul Kaufman.
Torontia
08-09-2005, 01:54
(OOC)

What if Kaufman is found innocent at the trail???

He is then a free man and can return to the presidential palace in Seattle!
SkyCapt
08-09-2005, 01:56
OOC: Unless assinated... *ahem* Uh, did I say that?
Torontia
08-09-2005, 01:57
Well then it WOULD be war!

Torontia would then fire every chemical and bio weapon at your cities until your no more!
Halberdgardia
08-09-2005, 01:58
To: The Damned Fascist Hellhole of Torontia
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, the Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Re: Rebuttal

Once again, you prove yourself dreadfully uninformed and propagandistic. And once again, I shall rip your statement apart.

From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Halberdgardia

What a joke your vile nation has become!

If our nation is such a "joke," then why is it that we are still standing tall after facing years of terrorist attacks, radical Islamic regimes, and other entities who wish for our downfall, while they have all crumbled to ashes at our feet?

Your insults against President Kaufman show the collective insanity that runs through your so-called government.

Kaufman was a damnfooled megalomaniac whose monstrous, genocidal actions will bring about his death at the hands of the Allemande judicial system. To condemn him is hardly a mark of insanity.

Furthermore, Torontia will not be lectured by a nation who has a homosexual deviant as a head of state. It is WELL KNOWN by all Torontians that Kir Kanos goes around high schools molesting young males and engagning in activities most humans would regard as depraved and criminal.

But then again that is what your so-called 'president' is, a homosexual pervert criminal and a molester!

That is because you feed your people lies from the cradle to the grave. You would have them believe the Earth is square if it furthered your agenda. As for your patently false accusations of President Kanos' sexuality, if it were true, then we would have you show us proof. Show us the evidence you have. Let us see security tapes, audio tapes, any incontrovertible evidence. We will hardly be surprised when you find yourself unable to present us with anything.

And then there is Kenix Kil, the communist gangster terrorist who goes around the world and walks over nations for your vile plans of communist rule and the creation of a global tyranny!

I find it flattering that you would think my foreign affairs work so far-reaching. Need I show you simple economic statistics that clearly demonstrate our country's capitalist system, or are you actually capable of deciphering it yourself? I would guess the former, as you would ignore the truth, seeing as it completely contradicts your assertations.

You embargo is nothing and if we see your ships even near our waters we will be more than happy to blow them into hell where they belong as your homosexual invested navy will soon join with your nations founder and real leader, Lucifer!

Our navy will go where it pleases, with no regard to your pitiful threats against it. The combined strength of our navy could wipe your nation from the face of the Earth. Clearly you do not realize that you are attempting to negotiate from the position of weakness.

Again, you attempt to slander our nation as being full of homosexuals. While we will not deny that there are many homosexuals in Halberdgardia, and that gay marriage is legal, we ask you, what is so wrong about homosexuality? It is the choice of an individual, and, unlike your enslaving dictatorship, we at least provide our citizens the freedom to live as they choose.

May God curse and smite your vile nation and may your nation leave this world and go back into Hell where you all belong!

Do not lecture me on religion, you damnable hypocrite. If you claim to be faithful Christians, then I am an Apostle by comparison. God would never condone what you have imposed on your people. I wish you luck when our friends in Transnapastain hear that you have profaned the Word of God against us. You will need it.

Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia

[OOC: Torontia, on the contrary: I'm stronger than ever. My military's been massively built up in preparation for fighting Doomingsland in the AMF/Praetonia War, but since he's not yet begun his hostile actions, it would be easy to divert the fleet destined to fight him to wipe you out in a war. Or I could just use NBC weapons and get it done a whole lot faster, but that wouldn't go over well with the folks in the international community. Not only that, but the AMF/Praetonia War is allowing me to make some friends in high places, with Euroslavia, Praetonia, and Sarzonia being among them.]
The Lone Alliance
08-09-2005, 01:59
OOC: Unless assinated... *ahem* Uh, did I say that?
OOC: Hmmmmmm.......... And by the way didn't you kill all the Communists before? How many are there? I mean I would think that you've cut down at least 20% of you population with all the killings that happened. But it will boost your ecnomy with all the deaths there will be a great need for Grave Diggers.
Aequatio
08-09-2005, 02:01
The Aequatian Republic supports the embargo emplaced upon the nation of Torontia and would be willing to unilaterally initiate a naval blockade to prevent the movement of goods, military or civil, in or out of the troubled republic. Any hostile actions taken against any Aequatian Naval vessel will be treated as an act of war and will be retaliated against in such a manner.

The following elements from the Aequatian Navy's 6th Fleet will be deployed to international waters and will monitor any and all maritime traffic. We will not hesitate to board and/or sink any ship we feel is attempting to violate the embargo and arrest the crew and officers of said vessels.

Carrier Battle Group Apollo
Apollo (CVN-76), Olympiad-class CVN
Indomitable (BBN-59), Indomitable-class BBN
Kingfisher (CGN-111), Aquila-class CGN
Newbiggin (DDG-310), Newbiggin-class DDG
Toyley (DDG-311), Newbiggin-class DDG
Grief (FFG-245), Meyers-class FFG
Jones (FFG-246), Meyers-class FFG
Narwhal (SSN-111), Ocean-class SSN
Coates (AOE-33), Marriman-class AOE
Eggbert (AOE-34), Marriman-class AOE
Torontia
08-09-2005, 02:17
From: The Republic of Torontia

To : Halberdgardia and Aequatio

Stand down your navies or face attack!

This is your last warning!

Torontia has called up 2 million extra troops and our long range missiles are now aimed at your cities with chemical and biological warheads.

Torontia will make your nations suffer, that I do promise you!

To: Halberdgardia

You claim to be good Christians, people of the Book, yet you allow those perverts to marry!

You ask what is wrong with homosexuality!

Read the Bible, even a pervert like Kanos can find some salvation in the Holy Book.

The Bible makes clear the need for the death penalty against homosexuals.

Don't lecture us on Christianity as your nation is under Lucifer's grip.

And Kanos is a pervert, President Kaufman found out about Kanos even before President Kaufman took office.

When Kaufman was a world player in the global investment and financial sector, one of his clients was the peace loving President of Saharistan, Musab al Zarqawi, who told President Kaufman of his dealings with Kanos and that Kanos was and still is a molester!

Look at facts for we speak only the truth and Kir Kanos needs to check himself into a clinic as he suffers from mental instability and is unable to tell the difference from reality and fantasy!

Chairman of the MCNU and President of the Republic of Torontia

Colonel Vader Tanakis
The Macabees
08-09-2005, 02:23
[OOC: Too bad I'm in a middle of a War of Succession, or I would make this an opportunity to spread my religion - the Holy Church of the Broken Dawn!]
Halberdgardia
08-09-2005, 02:29
To: The Damned Fascist Hellhole of Torontia
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, the Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Re: Final Warning

From: The Republic of Torontia

To : Halberdgardia and Aequatio

Stand down your navies or face attack!

This is your last warning!

Torontia has called up 2 million extra troops and our long range missiles are now aimed at your cities with chemical and biological warheads.

Torontia will make your nations suffer, that I do promise you!

You will note that our nation has mobilized no forces to threaten your nation, only threatened to. Realize, however, that we will not hesitate to carry out our threat if we are sufficiently provoked. If you so much as blink in a hostile manner towards us, you will face a hellfire unlike any other.

To: Halberdgardia

You claim to be good Christians, people of the Book, yet you allow those perverts to marry!

You ask what is wrong with homosexuality!

Read the Bible, even a pervert like Kanos can find some salvation in the Holy Book.

The Bible makes clear the need for the death penalty against homosexuals.

Don't lecture us on Christianity as your nation is under Lucifer's grip.

I do not know what perverted copy of the Bible you are reading, but the Holy Bible I read, the true Word of God, has no such text. God and his Son preach tolerance, and Jesus' own commandment, "Love thy neighbor as thyself," is clear proof that none of God's children, even those who sin, should be ostracized. Your atrocious actions against your own people, however, are clearly contrary to God's vision of peace on Earth. May He have mercy on you on the Judgment Day, lest He cast you down in to the bowels of Hell.

And Kanos is a pervert, President Kaufman found out about Kanos even before President Kaufman took office.

When Kaufman was a world player in the global investment and financial sector, one of his clients was the peace loving President of Saharistan, Musab al Zarqawi, who told President Kaufman of his dealings with Kanos and that Kanos was and still is a molester!

Look at facts for we speak only the truth and Kir Kanos needs to check himself into a clinic as he suffers from mental instability and is unable to tell the difference from reality and fantasy!

Again, we laugh at your unsubstantiated claims. You skirt the fact that you have no evidence of President Kanos' alleged homosexuality, and instead repeat your depraved claims. And tell us, if our President is mentally unstable, then why is it that he has resoundingly won both elections he ran in? That's right, you wouldn't know, because you clearly don't understand the principles of democracy, and rule through the will of the people, as it is an enlightened form of government that only the truly wise nations achieve. President Kanos is as venerable a man as any famous world leader, and your insults appear absurd in comparison to the vastness of his good deeds.

Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
McKagan
08-09-2005, 02:36
(OOC)

Im really happy that the SWC is now WEAKER as it no longer includes Willink.

Fuck I pulled of my 1st victory against the SWC in the Arabanistan/Willink war and now Hal and others are not that strong.

Only a few more wars and you lot are gone!

Whoa now little man, if you pull that shit i'll invade you MYSELF! :p

Anyway, you can't say you defeated the SWC when half the SWC was against one of our own members. The SWC defeated the SWC who was attacking you.
McKagan
08-09-2005, 02:43
[OOC: Torontia, on the contrary: I'm stronger than ever. My military's been massively built up in preparation for fighting Doomingsland in the AMF/Praetonia War, but since he's not yet begun his hostile actions, it would be easy to divert the fleet destined to fight him to wipe you out in a war. Or I could just use NBC weapons and get it done a whole lot faster, but that wouldn't go over well with the folks in the international community. Not only that, but the AMF/Praetonia War is allowing me to make some friends in high places, with Euroslavia, Praetonia, and Sarzonia being among them.]

OOC: Same here. 10000 Ship navy (we're working on a 1000 vessel submarine force!), HUGE airforce. I'm ready for just about anything, minus a prolonged ground war, but with the large surplus of Leafanistani tanks I aquired, I believe I could last for a long time there too. Besides, I've got you with your 'friends in high places' to save my ass! :p
Velkya
08-09-2005, 02:48
-Message from Velkyan Allied High Command-

Torontia, your "President" Kaufman is a very mockery of the word. It is grea that he will soon meet his maker. To top off Hal's wonderful statement about your "democracy", the only reason that the democratic governemnt failed is because SOMEONE stole billion's from the coffers of Torontia the fact that your "government" is simply a bunch of greedy fascist hypocrites has prompted us to deploy the 1st Combined Assualt Force to international waters off Torontia. If you even think about attacking Hal, McKagen, or Aequ, you will be annihilated in a matter of days. To add to that, Kantana Anti-ICBM aircraft and our regoinal ABM system have been put on high alert. If you launch even a single missile against the Allied States or one of it's allies, it will be destroyed in seconds, and a retaliation will be launched immediatly.

Have a nice day.

-Allied High Command Out-
SkyCapt
08-09-2005, 02:48
OOC: Hmmmmmm.......... And by the way didn't you kill all the Communists before? How many are there? I mean I would think that you've cut down at least 20% of you population with all the killings that happened. But it will boost your ecnomy with all the deaths there will be a great need for Grave Diggers.
??? :confused:
Aequatio
08-09-2005, 02:55
Connecting to A-ComSat Matrix...Securing Communication Channel to Torontia...Finding Colonel Vader Tanakis...*Found*...Channel Secure...Sending Transmission...

To: Colonel Vader Tanakis of The Republic of Torontia
From: President Elsa Berger of The Nationalist Federal Republic of Aequatio

Colonel Vader Tanakis of Torontia,

I'm afraid we must ask you to retract your latest threats against our nation with your long range missiles with biological and chemical agents, as due to the current situation involving our nation with the Empire of Automagfreek against the nations of Hogsweat and Praetonia, our Defence Condition has been reduced to Level 2 and we have our defensive forces deployed, which includes full anti-ballistic missile systems and our nation's own Nuclear Deterrent Forces, which include Air Force B-2 Strategic Bombers and our Navy's Magna Casa-class SSBN. Once our Defence Condition Level reaches 1, we will not hesitate to use the necessary force required to neutralize the threat your nation poses to our citizens or to any other nation.

We will not stand down until the full surrender of your "administration" and if you do not, we will not hesitate to eliminate your kind from this planet and send you on a one-way trip to be with your "God." If you refuse to believe that we would follow through, the former nation of Federban was the last nation to launch an attack on our Republic and was hit with repeated strikes by Aequatian ICBM's, leaving five million killed instantly and another twenty million left to die in the months following due to radiation and environmental damage.

President Elsa Berger of Aequatio

...Channel Closed...Transmission Terminated...A-ComSat Matrix Connection Severed...
Mannatopia
08-09-2005, 03:01
To the so called Republic of Torontia

Our nation does not recognize your current government. You removed by force a government of the People, and we will not stand and watch you spread your imperialist ways to our comrades in other nations. We will also not allow you to interfere with the trial of the dictator Kaufman.

At this time we will, as other nations already are, observe the situation, but be warned, we will commit our military forces if necessery. Do not take this as an idle threat, we have a military far larger than our comrades in the Lone Alliance whom you have previously threatened with attack. In fact, we are one of their suppliers. Also, unlike the Lone Alliance, we are not currently engaged in any other conflicts, and would be able to concentrate our military forces on you alone.

Our patience is wearing thin.

Signed,
The Premier of the People's Republic of Mannatopia

ooc: while my nation is only about half the size of Lone Alliance, I have nearly 100 times the military budget in USD, allowing me to purchase more sophisticated weapons in higher quantity.
Torontia
08-09-2005, 03:05
TOP SECRET MESSAGE

From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Aequatio

Torontia will stand down our missiles and put them back to peacetime operational status.

However The MCNU is the legal and legitimate government of Torontia and furthermore who do you think we could hand over power to, as there is now viable candidate!

The MCNU would consider changing the objective of allowing Mr. Kaufman to return to the Presidency, however that would mean that the MCNU would transform from being a transitional government to a permanent one.

If you still threaten nuclear war with us despite these VERY generous offers we have made, then the Chairman of the Torontian Camber of Commerce, Dr. Karl Buchanan, could be offered the office of the Presidency.

However the return of the Norton regime is NOT possible, on account of his terrorist activities and his gross incompetence.

I hope you can accept this offer as it is a major breakthrough.

Chairman of the MCNU and President of the Republic of Torontia

Colonel Vader Tanakis
Torontia
08-09-2005, 03:07
TOP SECRET MESSAGE


From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Halberdgardia

Torontia will stand down our missiles and put them back to peacetime operational status.

However The MCNU is the legal and legitimate government of Torontia and furthermore who do you think we could hand over power to, as there is now viable candidate!

The MCNU would consider changing the objective of allowing Mr. Kaufman to return to the Presidency, however that would mean that the MCNU would transform from being a transitional government to a permanent one.

If you still threaten nuclear war with us despite these VERY generous offers we have made, then the Chairman of the Torontian Camber of Commerce, Dr. Karl Buchanan, could be offered the office of the Presidency.

However the return of the Norton regime is NOT possible, on account of his terrorist activities and his gross incompetence.

I hope you can accept this offer as it is a major breakthrough.

Chairman of the MCNU and President of the Republic of Torontia

Colonel Vader Tanakis
Velkya
08-09-2005, 03:17
-Message from Velkyan Allied High Command-

The only breakthrough in this conflict will be when Velkyan tanks breakthrough your capital's gates, we assure you. Return power to the people within a month, or we will return it ourseleves.

-High Command Out-

Secret IC:

To back up the High Command's words, the new 2nd Armored Division, the 1st ID, and the 1st Carrier Battlegroup is being readied and will arrive at the 1st CAFs location in 1 week.
Torontia
08-09-2005, 03:23
(IC)

All nations:

Torontia has sent messages to both Halberdgardia and Aequatio about resolving this conflict.

Torontia awaits their response, so can all nations at least give this offer a chance before moving on to the next phase in this dispute.
Aequatio
08-09-2005, 03:25
Connecting to A-ComSat Matrix...Securing Communication Channel to Torontia...Finding Colonel Vader Tanakis...*Found*...Channel Secure...Sending Transmission...

To: Colonel Vader Tanakis of The Republic of Torontia
From: President Elsa Berger of The Nationalist Federal Republic of Aequatio

Colonel Vader Tanakis of Torontia,

We feel that leaving the MCNU in any position of power is not in the best interest of the majority of citizens within Torontia and that only disbanding the organization until a suitable official can be appointed by the people. However, in the time being, we ask that you stand down as the nation's representative on the international stage and allow Dr. Karl Buchanan to take power until proper elections can be held and that the Torontian Armed Forces be disbanded until we deem their reinstitution necessary. Aequatian Peacekeeping Forces can be deployed to your nation to keep splinter groups can take control of the nation and brutalize the population.

We regret having the threaten complete distruction of your nation, but we hope that a peaceful solution can be found for your troubled nation.

President Elsa Berger of Aequatio

...Channel Closed...Transmission Terminated...A-ComSat Matrix Connection Severed...
Velkya
08-09-2005, 03:26
OOC: 1 NS week is about a RL hour, the way I count it. Hurry up. Also, is there any way we can see this offer.
Torontia
08-09-2005, 03:40
Official Bulletin-Torontian Republican News Agency (TRNA)

Today H.E. Colonel Vader Tanakis, President of the Republic of Torontia and Chairman of the MCNU, announced his resignation from both the offices of the Presidency and as Chairman of the MCNU.

The MCNU also voted to dissolve itself.

The last act in office that President Tanakis carried out was the appointment of Dr. Karl Buchanan as the new interim President of Torontia and President Buchanan carried out his first act as President by appointing a non-party cabinet of experts, made up of leading figures from the business community and the civil service.

Colonel Tanakis will keep his military rank and will now hold the position he held prior to his accession to the Presidency within the Torontian Armed Forces.

The Chief of the Air Force, Air Marshall Theodore DuPont, will be given the position of Defence Minister and is the only military official in the new cabinet.

President Buchanan said that he hopes these developments will help resolve the potentially dangerous dispute that had arisen out of the internal affairs of Torontia.

President Buchanan however said that there will be no disbanding of the Torontian Armed Forces, as the nation of Aequatio suggested, as such a move would lead to chaos and the possibility of communist terrorists or militants from the Jack Norton regime trying to take state power.

President Buchanan has offered Jack Norton exile into Halberdgardia and has said that Jack Norton will not be allowed to run in the new Presidential elections that will take place in two months time.

President Buchanan has hinted he may run in the elections and seek to become a full term President, but he also promised an equal footing for all potential candidates who seek to run for office.

Some of the emergency laws that the MCNU put in place have now been relaxed, with the death penalty being only applied to murder and rape and terrorism.

However President Buchanan has stressed that democracy is not achievable overnight and that pragmatic caution is the key to the future.
Mannatopia
08-09-2005, 03:41
(IC)

All nations:

Torontia has sent messages to both Halberdgardia and Aequatio about resolving this conflict.

Torontia awaits their response, so can all nations at least give this offer a chance before moving on to the next phase in this dispute.

To Colonel Vader Tanakis

We would like to take your word that you have made peaceful offers on faith, we cannot. We have no evidence of any offers other than your claims, and in the mean time, you have made SERIOUS threats to a large number of other countries.

Our Premier is greatly concerned about your sanity, Colonel, as the threats you have made sound like the words of a madman, and are being made against nations that you could never hope to combat one on one, let alone against all of them at once. We fear for the safety of the people of Torontia under a man such as yourself.

Should we not see any concrete evidence of your supposed peace efforts, we will be forced to take part in the removal of your government from power.

Signed,
Foreign Minister of Mannatopia


secret IC:
The Premier of Mannatopia has ordered the mobilization of the military. An expiditionary force is gathering near the border of Torontia:
50 M1A3 tanks
200 Stingray II tanks
60 M2A4 IFV
700 BMP-3 IFV
30 JF-17A Lightning multi-role fighters
80,000 infantry
10,000 logistics personnel (many of whom have have finished work on a makeshift airfield for the fighters, and are currently expanding it into a full fledged base)
Halberdgardia
08-09-2005, 03:44
To: The Republic of Torontia
From: Kenix Kil, Secretary of State, the Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia

We accept Dr. Buchanan's nomination, and will accept Jack Norton into exile in Halberdgardia. A Gulfstream V jet with HCIA and Secret Service agents on board is en route to Torontia to pick Mr. Norton up. We are pleased that Dr. Buchanan is taking a more moderate position regarding the governing of Torontia. Perhaps the strained relations between our nations can be repaired under the Buchanan administration, though we will keep an eye out for a return to extremism.

Kenix Kil
Secretary of State
The Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Velkya
08-09-2005, 03:47
Official Bulletin-Torontian Republican News Agency (TRNA)

Today H.E. Colonel Vader Tanakis, President of the Republic of Torontia and Chairman of the MCNU, announced his resignation from both the offices of the Presidency and as Chairman of the MCNU.

The MCNU also voted to dissolve itself.

The last act in office that President Tanakis carried out was the appointment of Dr. Karl Buchanan as the new interim President of Torontia and President Buchanan carried out his first act as President by appointing a non-party cabinet of experts, made up of leading figures from the business community and the civil service.

Colonel Tanakis will keep his military rank and will now hold the position he held prior to his accession to the Presidency within the Torontian Armed Forces.

The Chief of the Air Force, Air Marshall Theodore DuPont, will be given the position of Defence Minister and is the only military official in the new cabinet.

President Buchanan said that he hopes these developments will help resolve the potentially dangerous dispute that had arisen out of the internal affairs of Torontia.

President Buchanan however said that there will be no disbanding of the Torontian Armed Forces, as the nation of Aequatio suggested, as such a move would lead to chaos and the possibility of communist terrorists or militants from the Jack Norton regime trying to take state power.

President Buchanan has offered Jack Norton exile into Halberdgardia and has said that Jack Norton will not be allowed to run in the new Presidential elections that will take place in two months time.

President Buchanan has hinted he may run in the elections and seek to become a full term President, but he also promised an equal footing for all potential candidates who seek to run for office.

Some of the emergency laws that the MCNU put in place have now been relaxed, with the death penalty being only applied to murder and rape and terrorism.

However President Buchanan has stressed that democracy is not achievable overnight and that pragmatic caution is the key to the future.

-Message from Velkyan Allied High Command-

We thank the government for it's peaceful solution to this crisis. We have recalled our 2 Army Divisions, but our 1st CAF will stay in the area until further notice.

-VAHC Out-
Mannatopia
08-09-2005, 03:48
To the Republic of Torontia

We gladly accept the new government of your nation. In light of current events, you need not worry about our forces invading your country. We appluad the moves your new government has made, although we request that comrade Norton be allowed to run in the election. You cannot claim to have a free election when you ban the party of the People.

Signed,
Premier of Mannatopia

secret IC:
Depsite his public approval of the new government, the Premier is finds it hard to believe that the Colonel would leave so easily. The military buildup has been ordered to continue, and the Premier is considering the establishment of a permanent military base.
Halberdgardia
08-09-2005, 03:54
OOC: Just 'cuz I want Norton safe back in my country...

IC: The Gulfstream V, carrying two HCIA agents and two Secret Service agents, made its final approach to the international airport in the Torontian capitol. The pilot hailed ground control.

"Control, this is flight VHF-606, requesting permission to land. We are here to pick up Mr. Norton and bring him into exile in Halberdgardia."
Torontia
08-09-2005, 03:58
(IC)

Mr. Norton went up to the HCIA officials and thanked them for their efforts but also urged them to tell President Kanos that he wanted Halberdgardia to exert pressure on the Torontian government to allow him to stand for election.

Norton said if it was possible for him and the HCIA to stay at the base for a few hours to allow Kanos to make a phone call to Buchanan and ask him to reconsider.
Mannatopia
08-09-2005, 04:02
OOC: Just 'cuz I want Norton safe back in my country...

IC: The Gulfstream V, carrying two HCIA agents and two Secret Service agents, made its final approach to the international airport in the Torontian capitol. The pilot hailed ground control.

"Control, this is flight VHF-606, requesting permission to land. We are here to pick up Mr. Norton and bring him into exile in Halberdgardia."

IC to all nations:
The Premier approched the microphone:
Comcrade Norton must NOT be forced into exile. While we will not force his return to power, he MUST be allowed to run in the election. It has come to our attention that Halberdgardian jet has landed in Seattle. We will not allow it to leave the country. Our Lightning fighters have started CAPs surrounding Torontia, and we will force any aircraft attempting to leave the country to land at our airfield, where the craft will be inspected for comrade Norton. If he is not onboard, we will refuel the aircraft, and send it on its way. If he is found, we will return him to Seattle, and arrest the crew of the aircraft.
Torontia
08-09-2005, 04:03
Presidential Palace, Seattle

In his office, President Buchanan was signing a law giving amensty and immunity from prosecution to the members of the MCNU and to insure they did not face legal action for their time in office.

Then the phone rang, it was Helda, the President's PA.

HELDA: Mr. President, I have a call for you from President Kanos of Halberdgardia, shall I put you through.

BUCHANAN: Go ahead.

Then that annoying music came on as the President waited for the connection to be made.
Mannatopia
08-09-2005, 04:22
ooc: we ever going to see this phone call of yours
Torontia
08-09-2005, 04:23
It seems Torontia has gone through many leaders.

Here is a list of ALL leaders of Torontia since Torontia's independence from the USA and Canada in January 1991:

Jan. 1991-Dec. 1999 Harry Barker/Liberal Party (Democratic regime)

Dec. 1999-March 2017 Paul Kaufman/New Order (Dictatorial regime)

March 2017-April 2020 Jack Norton/Socialist Green Party (Left wing democratic regime)

April 2020-June 2020 Colonel Vader Tanakis/Military Junta (Military regime)

June 2020- Dr. Karl Buchanan/Non-party interim government (Transitional regime)
Torontia
08-09-2005, 04:25
(OOC)

We will have to wait until Halberdgardia gets back online until the phone call can go ahead.
Mannatopia
08-09-2005, 04:28
ooc: ahh, ok, didn't realize we had to wait for him, sorry
Torontia
08-09-2005, 04:30
(OOC)

He is offline and Im tired now, its 4:30 in the morning in London.

Ill continue this tomorrow nite!
Mannatopia
08-09-2005, 04:35
(OOC)

He is offline and Im tired now, its 4:30 in the morning in London.

Ill continue this tomorrow nite!
ooc: i'll try to make it so that my fighters can make things "interesting"
Halberdgardia
08-09-2005, 04:45
OOC: Wait, I'm here!

IC:

"President Buchanan, this is President Kanos. I understand that Mr. Norton is reconsidering his exile?"
Mannatopia
08-09-2005, 05:06
ooc: he is offline, it will have to wait till tomorow night

IC:
A Halberdgardia airliner attempting to leave the country became the first aircraft to be forced down by the JF-17A patrols, landing at the Mannatopian airbase. The plane was quickly surrounded by Mannatopian soldiers, and its crew was emptied from the aircraft.
The pilot of the airliner demanded to see someone in charge. Captain Kim Tsu and his sergeant approached the detained crew.

Captain Kim: I am Captain Kim Tsu of the Mannatopian Army, you have been detained while we carry out a search of...

The pilot interrupted him: A SEARCH!!! What gives you the right to force us down, hold us, sear...

Suddenly the pilot fell to the ground, as he had been struck the the butt of the sergeants rifle

Sergeant: How dare you speak to the Captain that way, I should shoot you.

Captain Kim: SERGEANT, YOU ARE RELIEVED OF DUTY!!!! (the sergeant walks away in a rage) You must excuse the sergeant, he is not used to officers being spoken to this way. Are you alright, I can get a medic if you need one.

Pilot: I'll be fine, but I demand that you release us immediatly. You have no authority to hold us.

Captain Kim: My Premier has given me the authority, and you will remain here until the search is complete.

Pilot: You are risking a war by holding us...

A corporal approached the Captain and whispered something in his ear.

Captain: Well, it seams that comrade Norton is not on your aircraft. While I would love to continue this chat, I'll bet you want to be on your way. We will refuel your aircraft, and then you and your crew may depart.

30 minutes later, the Halberdgardia airliner left the ground.
Swedish Dominions
08-09-2005, 14:17
OOC: Wow... many pages very fast... I'm not reading it all and i'm answering to the response.

IC:

To: The Chairman of Torontia
From: The King of the Swedish Dominions

"We will send our 2nd, 3rd and 6th Army divisions to maintain peace and observe the creation of a new Democratic way of life. We come not as enemies, but as liberators. Is this acceptable?"
SkyCapt
08-09-2005, 14:32
To: Mannatopian Forces
From: SkyCapt High Command

We must ask you to relieve your 'blockade' of sorts around Seattle. Or at least let the Halberdgardian aircraft to leave.
Mannatopia
08-09-2005, 16:16
To: Mannatopian Forces
From: SkyCapt High Command

We must ask you to relieve your 'blockade' of sorts around Seattle. Or at least let the Halberdgardian aircraft to leave.
To SkyCapt High Command

We request clarification as to your request. Which Halberdgardian do you mean? If you mean any aircraft containing comrade Norton, we are not stopping Halberdgardian aircraft alone, but planes from any nation attempting to aid in his forced exile.
Perhaps you are refering to the Halberdgardian airliner we recently searched? If that is the case, then it was allowed to leave before you even sent your message. We have no wish to hold innocent people, and once comrade Norton was determined to not be on board, we allowed the aircraft to leave. We even refueled the aircraft free of charge to make up for any lost fuel due to diverting to our base.
Please clarify what aircraft you are speaking of. We do not wish a conflict to start between our two nations because of misunderstanding.

Signed,
Commander, Mannatopian 1st Expiditionary Force

ooc: I will not be available to respond until about 12 hours from now (as far as I now), I will not be home
SkyCapt
08-09-2005, 17:11
To SkyCapt High Command

We request clarification as to your request. Which Halberdgardian do you mean? If you mean any aircraft containing comrade Norton, we are not stopping Halberdgardian aircraft alone, but planes from any nation attempting to aid in his forced exile.
Perhaps you are refering to the Halberdgardian airliner we recently searched? If that is the case, then it was allowed to leave before you even sent your message. We have no wish to hold innocent people, and once comrade Norton was determined to not be on board, we allowed the aircraft to leave. We even refueled the aircraft free of charge to make up for any lost fuel due to diverting to our base.
Please clarify what aircraft you are speaking of. We do not wish a conflict to start between our two nations because of misunderstanding.

Signed,
Commander, Mannatopian 1st Expiditionary Force

ooc: I will not be available to respond until about 12 hours from now (as far as I now), I will not be home
To: Mannatopian Forces
From: SkyCapt High Command

The aircraft we had in mind was the one which would be containing Norton for his exile. Or any aircraft that would aid in it.
McKagan
08-09-2005, 21:36
Secret IC to Hal

To: Halberdgardian Central Intelligence Agency (HCIA)
From: McKagan Imperial Intelligence Agency (MIIA)
Subject: Use Your Illusion

One of our Kurora spyplanes above Torontia recently noted that a private jet, matching the configuration of one we saw your organization using before, landed in Torontia. We believe you may be trying to evacuate a "Mr. Norton" (?) from the area? Is this true? If it is, you should know the same flight has noticed an illegal airforce forcing planes to the ground and conducting random checks. We have a Titan-class Aircraft Carrier in range. If you can get your plane in the air and to the border, we will launch a group of F22k Fighters to escort you away from the nation.
Halberdgardia
08-09-2005, 21:44
[detainment scenario snip]

OOC: Godmodding. You do not dictate the actions of my people. Ever. Your post is hereby ignored; my plane is still at the airport, while Kanos discusses Norton's exile with Buchanan.

Secret IC to Hal

To: Halberdgardian Central Intelligence Agency (HCIA)
From: McKagan Imperial Intelligence Agency (MIIA)
Subject: Use Your Illusion

One of our Kurora spyplanes above Torontia recently noted that a private jet, matching the configuration of one we saw your organization using before, landed in Torontia. We believe you may be trying to evacuate a "Mr. Norton" (?) from the area? Is this true? If it is, you should know the same flight has noticed an illegal airforce forcing planes to the ground and conducting random checks. We have a Titan-class Aircraft Carrier in range. If you can get your plane in the air and to the border, we will launch a group of F22k Fighters to escort you away from the nation.

Encrypted Response

To: MIIA
From: Office of the DCI

That works. We'll attempt to get the Mannatopians to back down from their unjustfied (and, quite frankly, stupid) threats, and if they refuse to comply, we'll let you escort our Gulfstream out.

End Encrypted Response
Torontia
08-09-2005, 23:03
President Buchanan: Good afternoon Mr. Kanos. It seems that Jack Norton wishes to decline your offer of taking him into exile as he claims that he has some type of right to stay in Torontia and even claims that he should be allowed to stand.

I hope that you, Mr. Kanos will realise that under Torontian law homosexuality is illegal and that you know Jack Norton is openly gay, thus the anti-homosexuality laws prohibit him, like any other homosexual from standing for political office.

Add to this that a Presidential decree digned by former President Tanakis barring Norton from standing under the anti treason laws is also still in effect.
Halberdgardia
08-09-2005, 23:30
"It seems, then, that is impossible for Mr. Norton to stay. I am afraid he has little choice in the matter. Add to the concerns you have expressed our worry that some lingering pro-Kaufman or pro-Tanakis elements may threaten Mr. Norton's safety, and it seems that he cannot stay. I will apologize to Mr. Norton for this, but rest assured, we will provide Mr. Norton and his family a comfortable new life in Halberdgardia."
Aequatio
09-09-2005, 00:27
Official Statement from the Aequatian Republic

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/aequatio.jpg

Although an interim solution has been found with President Buchanan and the military junta of Colonel Tanakis has been dissolved, we feel the need to protect what order is remaining within Torontia by deploying a Light Infantry Division with proper Peacekeeping Insignia to be mobilized about the nation and keep watch over government and military establishments as well as protect important people around the Republic, including the good Dr. Buchanan.

We will be deploying our forces from the main airport in Torontia's capital of Seattle and keep watch over the fragile situation during the current democratic elections.

Elsa Berger,
President and Head of State,
Federal Republic of Aequatio

OOC: Edits made.
Aequatio
09-09-2005, 01:27
OOC: Bump for Torontia.
Mannatopia
09-09-2005, 03:56
OOC: Godmodding. You do not dictate the actions of my people. Ever. Your post is hereby ignored; my plane is still at the airport, while Kanos discusses Norton's exile with Buchanan.


ooc: the aircraft I detained is not supposed to be the gulfstream that you sent for Norton, it was supposed to be just some commercial airliner. I would not presume to write what your plane with Norton would be doing. If what I was doing is still "godmodding", I apologize. This is the first NationStates RP I have been in, and I am still learning. If there is still a problem even though I have clarified that it was not the gulfstream, then I will retract my detainee post, although the my aircraft patrolling will remain.
In addition, I do not expect my fighters to succeed in stopping Norton's plane should it actually try to leave, I am just trying to pressure it into staying on the ground. My military is rather small, and my expiditionary force is even smaller, and not very technologically advanced. SkyCapt could easily wipe me from the sky without even trying (this is not a suggestion, I would hope that the normal process of telling me to leave and negotiate would happen first).
Mannatopia
09-09-2005, 04:05
To: Mannatopian Forces
From: SkyCapt High Command

The aircraft we had in mind was the one which would be containing Norton for his exile. Or any aircraft that would aid in it.
To SkyCapt High Command:

We are not aware what aircraft, or even what nation, is trying to leave the country carrying Norton. All our intelligence has been able to find out is that someone is trying to fly him out in support of the Torontian decree. We will continue to inspect any aircraft trying to leave.

Comrade Norton commited no crime that we recognize. He must be allowed to stay if he so wishes. He must be allowed to run in the election if he so wishes. Our Premier is very concerned of this escelating into further bloodshed, and would like to offer an alternative to our embargo. If SkyCapt, or any other nation, can get a message from comrade Norton saying that he either wants or is willing to leave, we will stand down, and have our fighters return to our forward base.

Signed,
Commander, Mannatopian 1st Expiditionary Force
Mannatopia
09-09-2005, 04:13
IC:
The Premier was getting more and more worried of a conflict breaking out over his decision to support comrade Norton. He decided to make a public statement (which would be blocked from the Mannatopian people so as to hide any sign of weakness in the leadership):

I do not want to see bloodshed result in what should be a time of peace and rebuilding for the people of Torontia. If we can get word from comrade Norton that he has decided of his own accord to leave the country, we will end our embargo.

In addition, we are becoming very concerned over the number of nations sending "peacekeeping" forces onto Torontian soil. Our own forces are remaining outside of the country, and will only intervene if the new government should not be able to maintain peace. We do not want to see other nations take advantage of the situation, and force their own adgendas onto the Torontian people.

IC: The commander had finally received the reinforcement of 30 additional JF-17A Lightnings, bringing the total to 60. Since the embargo, he had requested more fighters as he did not have enough to defend his base. He would only hope the this would be enough, given what he had heard about the massive air fleets of the other nations involved.
Mannatopia
10-09-2005, 19:02
ooc: has this RP ended? just wondering since no one has posted in two days.
Vorana
10-09-2005, 19:05
Hiya, its me, Torontia.

Vorana is my other far right/fascist nation.

This thread is over.

There is the thread on the elections, it's on page three of II.

Colonel Tanakis and Norton are neck and neck at 14 votes each.

Interim President Buchanan, only has 7 votes, meaning that he will be a two month President.

The polls close tonight (Sat.) at 11:30 PM London time, 6:30 NYC time.
Halberdgardia
10-09-2005, 19:45
ooc: the aircraft I detained is not supposed to be the gulfstream that you sent for Norton, it was supposed to be just some commercial airliner. I would not presume to write what your plane with Norton would be doing. If what I was doing is still "godmodding", I apologize. This is the first NationStates RP I have been in, and I am still learning. If there is still a problem even though I have clarified that it was not the gulfstream, then I will retract my detainee post, although the my aircraft patrolling will remain.
In addition, I do not expect my fighters to succeed in stopping Norton's plane should it actually try to leave, I am just trying to pressure it into staying on the ground. My military is rather small, and my expiditionary force is even smaller, and not very technologically advanced. SkyCapt could easily wipe me from the sky without even trying (this is not a suggestion, I would hope that the normal process of telling me to leave and negotiate would happen first).

OOC:

This is what you posted.

A Halberdgardia airliner attempting to leave the country became the first aircraft to be forced down by the JF-17A patrols, landing at the Mannatopian airbase.

To me, that implies my Gulfstream. The fact that you did not explicitly identify the aircraft as a commercial one reinforced my belief. Even if you did mean a commercial aircraft, it would still be inaccurate, as my country has no commercial air traffic going to Torontia. Hence, it might be a good idea to strike the whole airliner detainment post from the books, so to speak. We'll assume your threat applies solely to the Gulfstream already on the ground.

Secondly, regarding your air patrols forcing my planes down. You do realize that you're not being terribly smart by unilaterally acting in an essentially hostile manner and forcing them down, correct? Especially as you're not a very large nation. To force planes down after conferring with my government first is one thing. To do it with no prior consultation is grounds for my government to label you a hostile nation and possibly shoot your aircraft down. Which, if I wanted to be a jackass about this, I could do rather easily (as you have said yourself).

As such, I suppose I'll retract my accusation of godmodding, and write up an IC warning to your government telling your patrols not to mess around with our aircraft, or we'll shoot the patrols down. I apologize if I came off harsh with my accusation of godmodding and this post, but I abhor godmodding in all forms. At least you do recognize it and are willing to change it, and that's something I respect in a new player.

Hiya, its me, Torontia.

Vorana is my other far right/fascist nation.

This thread is over.

There is the thread on the elections, it's on page three of II.

Colonel Tanakis and Norton are neck and neck at 14 votes each.

Interim President Buchanan, only has 7 votes, meaning that he will be a two month President.

The polls close tonight (Sat.) at 11:30 PM London time, 6:30 NYC time

OOC: Does this mean that Norton is still eligible for exile in Halberdgardia if he loses the election (assuming you don't kill him off)?
Mannatopia
10-09-2005, 20:20
ooc: can someone post a link to this other thread? I can't find it.