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War with Chellis

Craeto
30-08-2005, 21:23
"The Glorious Holy Empire of Craeto hereby declares war on the vile filth that is Chellis. We have prepared for this holy war for many months. Craeto will not allow the Godless Chellians to repress billions of the holy fathers children any longer. We are beginning our glorious attacks at we speak, our ships launching attacks as our planes begin sorties. If Chellis surrenders, and accepts a new, Creaton government, we will spare the lives of millions of Chellians."

And so they had. Miles from the furthermost Chellian detectors, the Craeton aircraft carrier Might launched twenty-four F/a-18's and 24 F-14's. A second carrier, the Finesse, launched 30 CH-47's with 40 paratroopers each. Two ships, filled to the brim with paratroopers, awaited the chinooks return, in order to send more troops.

The forces headed for a Chellian dock, in south-eastern Chellis. Using spy's, Creato was able to get detailed information about the nearest airbase. 12 Hornets, with Anti-runway bombs and TV-guided bombs, flew to hit the base, as well as SAMs on the way. 12 of the Tomcats flew in support of these Hornets. The other 12 hornets, equipped with modified exocets and TV-guided bombs, flew to hit the ships in the harbor, with the chinooks dropping in their wake, and the Tomcats flying patrol.

Ten large boats, along with cruiser and destroyer support, headed inland. Not encountering any opposition along the way, the transport ships began sending lander ships into the port. After the first air assault, these landers began landing troops armed to the teeth with Anti-tank weaponry, AA, and mortars. The Creato soldiers knew they needed as much firepower as possible, as they were slightly outnumbered.
SkyCapt
30-08-2005, 21:27
OOC: Good first post... But it would have been better to not declare war just as your nation saw the light of day. Better to wait, build your forces, economy, and nation, then attack.
Craeto
30-08-2005, 21:47
OOC: Good first post... But it would have been better to not declare war just as your nation saw the light of day. Better to wait, build your forces, economy, and nation, then attack.

OOC: We dont need those things. God is on our side.
SkyCapt
30-08-2005, 21:50
OOC: Then prepare to die... My capital's population is larger than your nation's pop. Chellis will crush you easily. And if they get help... *tsk tsk*
edit: And it's impossible for you to have 2 carriers the first day of your Nation's life.
Jenrak
30-08-2005, 21:53
OOC: We dont need those things. God is on our side.

OOC: That's a poor assumption to be making.
Wingarde
30-08-2005, 21:57
OOC: In sight of the fact that Chellis' armed forces should be about 25 times larger than your whole population (which is 0.088% of your enemy's), I think you should delete this thread before Chellis notices it. That is, if you want to prevent the complete and utter extermination of you and your entire kind.
Jenrak
30-08-2005, 21:58
"The Glorious Holy Empire of Craeto hereby declares war on the vile filth that is Chellis. We have prepared for this holy war for many months. Craeto will not allow the Godless Chellians to repress billions of the holy fathers children any longer. We are beginning our glorious attacks at we speak, our ships launching attacks as our planes begin sorties. If Chellis surrenders, and accepts a new, Creaton government, we will spare the lives of millions of Chellians."

And so they had. Miles from the furthermost Chellian detectors, the Craeton aircraft carrier Might launched twenty-four F/a-18's and 24 F-14's. A second carrier, the Finesse, launched 30 CH-47's with 40 paratroopers each. Two ships, filled to the brim with paratroopers, awaited the chinooks return, in order to send more troops.

The forces headed for a Chellian dock, in south-eastern Chellis. Using spy's, Creato was able to get detailed information about the nearest airbase. 12 Hornets, with Anti-runway bombs and TV-guided bombs, flew to hit the base, as well as SAMs on the way. 12 of the Tomcats flew in support of these Hornets. The other 12 hornets, equipped with modified exocets and TV-guided bombs, flew to hit the ships in the harbor, with the chinooks dropping in their wake, and the Tomcats flying patrol.

Ten large boats, along with cruiser and destroyer support, headed inland. Not encountering any opposition along the way, the transport ships began sending lander ships into the port. After the first air assault, these landers began landing troops armed to the teeth with Anti-tank weaponry, AA, and mortars. The Creato soldiers knew they needed as much firepower as possible, as they were slightly outnumbered.

OOC: A theocratic reason, but isolation will serve you better.
Thekalu
30-08-2005, 22:18
*sniffs air* I smell a n00b tinged with genocide

ooc:don't declare war on your first day on ns for it will be a massive genocide and also read the stickies

ic: if you right wing religious nuts keep up these aggressions I will be forced to declare war
Jenrak
30-08-2005, 22:22
*sniffs air* I smell a n00b tinged with genocide

ooc:don't declare war on your first day on ns for it will be a massive genocide and also read the stickies

ic: if you right wing religious nuts keep up these aggressions I will be forced to declare war

OOC: It'll be Shoobooshabba all over again.
Thekalu
30-08-2005, 22:24
OOC: It'll be Shoobooshabba all over again.

I don't believe that I'm familiar with Shoobooshabba
Jenrak
30-08-2005, 22:27
I don't believe that I'm familiar with Shoobooshabba

OOC: Are you familiar with Shoobans?
Nebarri_Prime
30-08-2005, 22:29
OOC: that was anoying that time when every 5 Threads was about Shooban freedom or something
Thekalu
30-08-2005, 22:31
if you could post a link or something like that it would help
Jenrak
30-08-2005, 22:32
if you could post a link or something like that it would help

OOC: Type in Shooban, and tell me how many threads come up with that title. You'll see.
Thekalu
30-08-2005, 22:35
okey dokey
Isselmere
30-08-2005, 22:46
OOC: We dont need those things. God is on our side.
"...and how many divisions does the Pope have?"
--Joseph Stalin
The blessed Chris
30-08-2005, 23:09
OOC: We dont need those things. God is on our side.

OOC; Does god possess a division of heavy tanks?
Morvonia
30-08-2005, 23:16
"God may control thought...but it is the soldier....gods greatest creation that inforces it"
Craeto
31-08-2005, 01:34
"The war with Chellis is progressing quite well. Craeton soldiers have established a base in a Chellian harbor, and the scared Chellian soldiers wont even face us! The people will soon gather to our cause, overthrow their evil overlords, and we shall emerge victorious over the Godless Atheists!"

The message was bounced by multiple neutral companies, until it reached a company which has agreed to transmit Craeton messages anonymously. Craeto had the advantage of being a new nation, one who's location was unknown by the vast majority of nations. Its citizenry had no form of access outside the island groupings, aside from the government. The people were happy living their lives, humbly in the face of the lord.

A long ways away, Craeton soldiers placed harbor emplyee's against walls and gunned them down. They had made the harbor a virtual kill-factory. Anti-tank weapons were hidden and emplaced in many different places. AA was put in nearly invisible places, as Craeto had come prepared with clothing and paint-scheme's worthy of the enviornment. Mortars were set up in a batteries of four, in areas around the harbor. Chinooks, now having unloaded over 3,000 soldiers into the harbor, began flying in supplies, and the few Abrams tanks and M6 Bradleys they had brought with them were being landed with ships. Soldiers had already dug-out positions for the armour, and they began setting up individual foxholes, machine-gun emplacements, communications systems, etc.

Internet access was quickly established. Craeto had brought a dozen hackers, who came with their own top of the line laptops. They plugged into a high-speed connection, a T3 line, and began unloading home-brewed viruses onto mail accounts, etc. At the same time, they began spamming websites with religious doctrine and calls for support of the Craeto military.

Scouting parties began driving along the roads, using all the cars they could steal from the harbor. Special forces went toward the Air base that had been attacked, as the Craeton airforce began putting the majority of their air assault to the airfield.
Red Tide2
31-08-2005, 01:36
"The war with Chellis is progressing quite well. Craeton soldiers have established a base in a Chellian harbor, and the scared Chellian soldiers wont even face us! The people will soon gather to our cause, overthrow their evil overlords, and we shall emerge victorious over the Godless Atheists!"

OOC:That reaks of godmodding, please read the stickies(and the links they provide) at the top of the thread and come back when you are TRULY ready to RP.

Another note: You are FAR to young to have 2 Nimitz Class Supercarriers. Your military can only be no more then 5% of your military... and even then in SEVERE Emergencies. Otherwise your economy would shut down.
Jenrak
31-08-2005, 01:42
"The war with Chellis is progressing quite well. Craeton soldiers have established a base in a Chellian harbor, and the scared Chellian soldiers wont even face us! The people will soon gather to our cause, overthrow their evil overlords, and we shall emerge victorious over the Godless Atheists!"

The message was bounced by multiple neutral companies, until it reached a company which has agreed to transmit Craeton messages anonymously. Craeto had the advantage of being a new nation, one who's location was unknown by the vast majority of nations. Its citizenry had no form of access outside the island groupings, aside from the government. The people were happy living their lives, humbly in the face of the lord.

A long ways away, Craeton soldiers placed harbor emplyee's against walls and gunned them down. They had made the harbor a virtual kill-factory. Anti-tank weapons were hidden and emplaced in many different places. AA was put in nearly invisible places, as Craeto had come prepared with clothing and paint-scheme's worthy of the enviornment. Mortars were set up in a batteries of four, in areas around the harbor. Chinooks, now having unloaded over 3,000 soldiers into the harbor, began flying in supplies, and the few Abrams tanks and M6 Bradleys they had brought with them were being landed with ships. Soldiers had already dug-out positions for the armour, and they began setting up individual foxholes, machine-gun emplacements, communications systems, etc.

Internet access was quickly established. Craeto had brought a dozen hackers, who came with their own top of the line laptops. They plugged into a high-speed connection, a T3 line, and began unloading home-brewed viruses onto mail accounts, etc. At the same time, they began spamming websites with religious doctrine and calls for support of the Craeto military.

Scouting parties began driving along the roads, using all the cars they could steal from the harbor. Special forces went toward the Air base that had been attacked, as the Craeton airforce began putting the majority of their air assault to the airfield.

OOC: Please fix what I have coloured in Red.
Craeto
31-08-2005, 01:47
OOC: Please fix what I have coloured in Red.

OOC: What needs fixing?
Red Tide2
31-08-2005, 01:48
OOC:Oh, I dont know? MAYBE THE PARTS HE COLORED IN RED!!!!!!
Craeto
31-08-2005, 01:50
OOC:That reaks of godmodding, please read the stickies(and the links they provide) at the top of the thread and come back when you are TRULY ready to RP.

Another note: You are FAR to young to have 2 Nimitz Class Supercarriers. Your military can only be no more then 5% of your military... and even then in SEVERE Emergencies. Otherwise your economy would shut down.

OOC: Err...

1. I never said Nimitz Class carriers. I launched 48 planes from one carrier, and 30 helicopters from another. You dont need Nimitz class carriers for that kinda stuff.

2. I didnt godmode. Chellis refuses to fight me, I can only assume his cowerdice. Besides, it was something said, see the quotation marks?

3. My military isnt that large. Its just well-funded, by anti-chellian groups. Which will go unnamed, for anonymity.
Craeto
31-08-2005, 01:50
OOC:Oh, I dont know? MAYBE THE PARTS HE COLORED IN RED!!!!!!

OOC: No shit. Dont act like an idiot. I obviously was asking what was wrong with them.
Jenrak
31-08-2005, 01:51
OOC: What needs fixing?

OOC: Mostly, you can't claim things for others, and you can't place things down when you have no layout or feel for your enemy's country. Plus, a country as young as yours can't field a military like this unless you're nomadic, and that would be impossible, being as you claimed to have a country already. You cannot claim that you'll convert the people, because you are not familiar with their temperament, and you can't claim such numbers at such an early age.

I know that these kinds of rules make it a 'turn-off' for most new role players (and puppets who want to act like them), but it's to make things fair.
Red Tide2
31-08-2005, 01:52
OOC:If he refuses to fight you, then thats that, you cant fight him, he cant fight you. He is not being a coward, actually he is being quite nice. He isnt crushing your nation like a bug(which he is quite capable of doing).
Jenrak
31-08-2005, 01:53
OOC:If he refuses to fight you, then thats that, you cant fight him, he cant fight you. He is not being a coward, actually he is being quite nice. He isnt crushing your nation like a bug(which he is quite capable of doing).

OOC: Chellis is a dude? Well, I made some dastardly mistakes.
Red Tide2
31-08-2005, 01:55
OOC:... You mean he is a GIRL???!!! Ive seen him act like a complete fool in diplomacy, but I didnt know he/she is a girl... if at all. Ill get back to you on this.
Jenrak
31-08-2005, 01:57
OOC:... You mean he is a GIRL???!!! Ive seen him act like a complete fool in diplomacy, but I didnt know he/she is a girl... if at all. Ill get back to you on this.

OOC: I'm confused. Chellis, are you a dude or a chick? :confused:
Craeto
31-08-2005, 01:57
OOC: Mostly, you can't claim things for others,

I havn't. I have only infered things, or said things I have done.

and you can't place things down when you have no layout or feel for your enemy's country.

I have been observing his nation, I didn't randomly send units to attack him. Soldiers quickly started setting up defenses, and we had scouted out the harbor from before, using civilian traders to observe and take pictures.

Plus, a country as young as yours can't field a military like this unless you're nomadic, and that would be impossible, being as you claimed to have a country already.

My military isnt all that large.

You cannot claim that you'll convert the people, because you are not familiar with their temperament,

I didn't say I would. I infered I would, and the way I said it is propoganda at worst.

and you can't claim such numbers at such an early age.

My numbers arent that high.

I know that these kinds of rules make it a 'turn-off' for most new role players (and puppets who want to act like them), but it's to make things fair.


Seeing as I havnt broken any of these "rules", I shall disregard that.
Jenrak
31-08-2005, 01:59
I havn't. I have only infered things, or said things I have done.



I have been observing his nation, I didn't randomly send units to attack him. Soldiers quickly started setting up defenses, and we had scouted out the harbor from before, using civilian traders to observe and take pictures.



My military isnt all that large.



I didn't say I would. I infered I would, and the way I said it is propoganda at worst.



My numbers arent that high.




Seeing as I havnt broken any of these "rules", I shall disregard that.

OOC: Not from what I see.
Craeto
31-08-2005, 02:00
OOC:If he refuses to fight you, then thats that, you cant fight him, he cant fight you. He is not being a coward, actually he is being quite nice. He isnt crushing your nation like a bug(which he is quite capable of doing).

OOC: He can attempt to. But again, God is on our side.
Red Tide2
31-08-2005, 02:01
OOC:Yes you have. You have somehow managed to get your ships past his navy(which could sink them in a instant), gotten your airforce past his Navy, Airforce, and airdefense(which, once again, he could easily down), and somehow managed to land your troops suffering NO casualties at all when Chellis would have full and complete warning of where and how you were going to land, and being able to set up a complex defense system in a space of 60 minutes. And yet you dont see how you were godmodding?

PS:As others have pointed out(and as the thread 'What Godmodding is') invoking acts of god is, I know this is a pun now, godmodding.
Gonru
31-08-2005, 02:03
I have been observing his nation, I didn't randomly send units to attack him. Soldiers quickly started setting up defenses, and we had scouted out the harbor from before, using civilian traders to observe and take pictures.

like we said, you cant do stuff without knowing his land. in other words you will have to ask him OOCly.



My military isnt all that large.

you don't have the money for a carrier at all i'm guessing



Seeing as I havnt broken any of these "rules", I shall disregard that.

yes you have broken some very important rules

PAMP
Chellis
31-08-2005, 02:36
OOC:Yes you have. You have somehow managed to get your ships past his navy(which could sink them in a instant), gotten your airforce past his Navy, Airforce, and airdefense(which, once again, he could easily down), and somehow managed to land your troops suffering NO casualties at all when Chellis would have full and complete warning of where and how you were going to land, and being able to set up a complex defense system in a space of 60 minutes. And yet you dont see how you were godmodding?

PS:As others have pointed out(and as the thread 'What Godmodding is') invoking acts of god is, I know this is a pun now, godmodding.

OOC: Agreed, but whatever. He wants to try some namby-pamby attack against someone who doesnt even really RP anymore, so be it. I'll attribute his godmoding up to this point as sheer luck.

And I am a man.

And Im surprised this thread got so far without me noticing.

And I am a man. Why would you think Im a girl, jenrak? I dont believe we've ever even talked...




IC: The news hit Chellian high command slowly. The Creaton military evidently picked a good day to attack, for a new leader was being inaugerated in Northern chellis, with most of the military high command attending. Word hit the media before it had been made aware to the higher-ups, who were quickly brought back to HQ.

"Wait... Who the fuck is attacking us?" Asked a four star general, as he downed a cup of coffee. He stared at initial reports, confused as all hell, as was the rest of the high command in the room.

"Craeto, commander. They have launched a naval invasion, as well as an airbourne one. We figure their strength to be about a divisions worth of naval and airbourne infantry, a small number of armour, two small carriers, and assorted naval craft. More worrysome, they have launched attacks on the chellian closed internet. Virus and spam, mostly." Said a first lieutenant, holding reports in hand.

"Are these guys fucking serious?" A Brigadier general asked, sighing. "General Winthrop, I suggest we leave this to the airforce. They have attacked an airforce base in the vicinity, rendering its main runway inoperable. Its secondary and tertiary are up and running, and we have Rafale's taking off for point defense. I say we repair that runway, get SAM's online, and order the 18th carrier group to assault the harbor, as they are very close to the scene. Additionally, I suggest sending in the Natoya national guard, they have bases in the area, the 203rd airbourne, and any air forces that can reach the harbor from base." The Brigadier General said, taking a breather.

"Good deal. I agree. In addition, send all naval forces other than the 18th to patrol the nearby waters, for any other forces of theirs. Send motorized infantry of the national guard, as well as any standard army if we have any bases in the region that are close. Anyone have any questions?" Asked Winthrop. "Yes, Terai?"

"General, we have reports of them executing civilians within the harbor. Initial reports lead us to believe no chellians are left in the area, not that it was a heavily populated harbor to begin with..." Lieutenant General Terai began

"And?"

"I suggest we use gas, as well as percision bombings. There is no city adjacent to the port, there is no reason to believe there will be adverse effects onto our own population."

"Fine. Use VX and Mustard gas, but coordinate it well, and only after bombing. Don't let them expect it. Move out, people."

-------------------

In the province of Natoya, Craeton soldiers had gained a tiny foothold in a harbor. About 80 chellians who worked at the Ivetaal harbor were presumed dead. Eight planes had been destroyed at the airbase, though scramble orders came fast and both Rafales and SAMs were quick to begin acting. The Chellian national air defense system was acting up in the region recently, and was indeed going through tests this week, but it was quickly brought online. Three SAMs had been destroyed. About 30 people were confirmed dead from the attacks so far.

Chellian Satelites began getting targets for the Chellian military. Two AWACs had been launches from neighboring provinces, as well as chellian I-7 fighter jets carrying the venerable Aim-152's. Hornets and Tomcats were of little concern to Chellis, especially when the Tomcats were without AWAC support.

Four chellian divisions headed toward the harbor. The national guard's 53rd motorized and 89th mobile artillery, the 203rd airmobile division, and the standard army 8th cavalry division. They were to arrive within 12 hours at earliest(for the 203rd), 18 hours for the three army divisions to meet up and hit the base. Planes were to start hitting the base within the hour.
Jenrak
31-08-2005, 02:39
And I am a man. Why would you think Im a girl, jenrak? I dont believe we've ever even talked...

OOC: That may be one of the reasons, a small partial one, but I have other reasons...
Warhaven
31-08-2005, 03:16
OOC: He can attempt to. But again, God is on our side.
OOC: Dude, God has far better things to do, in NS or in RL, than to interfere on anyone country's behalf. When you get older and wiser, perhaps I'll help you cross into Magick. There are Rules The Wizards Council has established to have Deity characters, and we have done quite well with them. But one thing remains clear, God, and Satan are OFF LIMITS TO EVERYONE! It is Godmodding, and offensive to some parties. No, I will thank you kindly for no longer assuming God is on your side. And If you actually do use Him ICly, I won't even have to jump all over you. Half the NS community will do it for me.

This has been a lesson presented in as best a neutral manner as possible. Please take it as such.

-Warhaven, Head of The Wizards Council.
Thekalu
31-08-2005, 03:25
I'm starting to get an itchy trigger finger
SkyCapt
31-08-2005, 04:26
OOC: I would send a third of a Corps of Regulars, but they're tied up in matters right now...
Morvonia
31-08-2005, 23:07
OOC: Agreed, but whatever. He wants to try some namby-pamby attack against someone who doesnt even really RP anymore, so be it. I'll attribute his godmoding up to this point as sheer luck.

And I am a man.

And Im surprised this thread got so far without me noticing.

And I am a man. Why would you think Im a girl, jenrak? I dont believe we've ever even talked...




IC: The news hit Chellian high command slowly. The Creaton military evidently picked a good day to attack, for a new leader was being inaugerated in Northern chellis, with most of the military high command attending. Word hit the media before it had been made aware to the higher-ups, who were quickly brought back to HQ.

"Wait... Who the fuck is attacking us?" Asked a four star general, as he downed a cup of coffee. He stared at initial reports, confused as all hell, as was the rest of the high command in the room.

"Craeto, commander. They have launched a naval invasion, as well as an airbourne one. We figure their strength to be about a divisions worth of naval and airbourne infantry, a small number of armour, two small carriers, and assorted naval craft. More worrysome, they have launched attacks on the chellian closed internet. Virus and spam, mostly." Said a first lieutenant, holding reports in hand.

"Are these guys fucking serious?" A Brigadier general asked, sighing. "General Winthrop, I suggest we leave this to the airforce. They have attacked an airforce base in the vicinity, rendering its main runway inoperable. Its secondary and tertiary are up and running, and we have Rafale's taking off for point defense. I say we repair that runway, get SAM's online, and order the 18th carrier group to assault the harbor, as they are very close to the scene. Additionally, I suggest sending in the Natoya national guard, they have bases in the area, the 203rd airbourne, and any air forces that can reach the harbor from base." The Brigadier General said, taking a breather.

"Good deal. I agree. In addition, send all naval forces other than the 18th to patrol the nearby waters, for any other forces of theirs. Send motorized infantry of the national guard, as well as any standard army if we have any bases in the region that are close. Anyone have any questions?" Asked Winthrop. "Yes, Terai?"

"General, we have reports of them executing civilians within the harbor. Initial reports lead us to believe no chellians are left in the area, not that it was a heavily populated harbor to begin with..." Lieutenant General Terai began

"And?"

"I suggest we use gas, as well as percision bombings. There is no city adjacent to the port, there is no reason to believe there will be adverse effects onto our own population."

"Fine. Use VX and Mustard gas, but coordinate it well, and only after bombing. Don't let them expect it. Move out, people."

-------------------

In the province of Natoya, Craeton soldiers had gained a tiny foothold in a harbor. About 80 chellians who worked at the Ivetaal harbor were presumed dead. Eight planes had been destroyed at the airbase, though scramble orders came fast and both Rafales and SAMs were quick to begin acting. The Chellian national air defense system was acting up in the region recently, and was indeed going through tests this week, but it was quickly brought online. Three SAMs had been destroyed. About 30 people were confirmed dead from the attacks so far.

Chellian Satelites began getting targets for the Chellian military. Two AWACs had been launches from neighboring provinces, as well as chellian I-7 fighter jets carrying the venerable Aim-152's. Hornets and Tomcats were of little concern to Chellis, especially when the Tomcats were without AWAC support.

Four chellian divisions headed toward the harbor. The national guard's 53rd motorized and 89th mobile artillery, the 203rd airmobile division, and the standard army 8th cavalry division. They were to arrive within 12 hours at earliest(for the 203rd), 18 hours for the three army divisions to meet up and hit the base. Planes were to start hitting the base within the hour.



OOC:See Craeto.....that is how you role-play...and he is being over generous with you. Even though you godmoded most of the time,he is still willing to accept the loses....and ll the older players said "stop what till you are more powerful" but no you did not listen.


and now he will destroy you...and maybe invade your nation.i thought about sending a carrier group to attack you but i dont think that is needed now!


IC:the prime minister called off the battlegroup and positioned his spy satalites to watch the carnage with all his commanders in the military and intelligence comunity.....with beer and popcorn in hand...it was a regular "guys night out".
Chellis
01-09-2005, 22:51
OOC:See Craeto.....that is how you role-play...and he is being over generous with you. Even though you godmoded most of the time,he is still willing to accept the loses....and ll the older players said "stop what till you are more powerful" but no you did not listen.


and now he will destroy you...and maybe invade your nation.i thought about sending a carrier group to attack you but i dont think that is needed now!


IC:the prime minister called off the battlegroup and positioned his spy satalites to watch the carnage with all his commanders in the military and intelligence comunity.....with beer and popcorn in hand...it was a regular "guys night out".

OOC: He doesnt even seem to be responding...
SkyCapt
01-09-2005, 23:53
OOC: Oh now look, you offended him! :p
Morvonia
02-09-2005, 20:53
OOC:ohhh well "another noob bites the dust"