NationStates Jolt Archive

(Snipped from Mondoth National News)
- The new off shore fields are expected to be even larger than the land ones and twelve platforms will be buitl to take advantage of that fact...

In other news, Sources within the Mondothian government have revealed that the recent push to increase infrastructure in several rural areas is in fact a ploy, the construction work taking place in remote parts of Mondoth is intended to shield and decoy the placement of three new intercontinental missile silos. Our source says that the increasing proliferation of Biological weapons has forced Mondoth to increase its ability to respond to such threats in a decisive manner The new missiles are said to be MIRV capable meaning that each missile actually caontains as many as twelve warheads that can be set to hit different targets. Other than increased payload, the missiles will be following th plan of the Wildfire missile they are planned to augment.
In toher news, the new FMCV naval vessel seires has completed sea trials and has seen its first combat, more on that later.
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Press release by Jacob Mussaud, Mondothian Center for Disease research and control:

In the last few months, it has come to our attention that there has been a marked increase in the proliferation and developement of Biological weapons, there for, it is this departments duty to see to it that these deadly threats do not reach our shores, to ensure this, a systemic tightening of medical procedures and airport protocolls has been undertaken and three new Nuclear tipped Intercontinental Missiles have been built, the silos for these missiles have been hidden in variou rural Mondothian areas and their security and use has been trusted to the Wildfire Disease Control center which controls the older Missile formerly entrusted with protecting out people.
I will n ow take your questions please.

Otagia officially condemns Mondoth's increasing nuclear proliferation. Nuclear weapons are infinitely more dangerous than chemical and biological weapons, not only causing intense immediate destruction, but also causing intense radiation and fallout, potentially lasting hundreds of years after detonation. Chemical and biological weapons can be manufactured to become inactive after a certain time period.

Otagia officially condemns Mondoth's increasing nuclear proliferation. Nuclear weapons are infinitely more dangerous than chemical and biological weapons, not only causing intense immediate destruction, but also causing intense radiation and fallout, potentially lasting hundreds of years after detonation. Chemical and biological weapons can be manufactured to become inactive after a certain time period.

In the hands of a good biologist and determined nation (me) we can kill ten and hundreds of millions.

yes if a good strike with Nemesis-9 can kill people for years to come. if a person infected breeds the infection will become ingrained in the genes of the victim. it would be like cancer.

OOC: Setian: In case you haven't noticed, I was endorsing chemical and biological weapons. In fact, I run my own storefront, Pale Rider Arms: Creative Weapons Division. So yes, I agree with you completely.

While we do agree that nuclear proliferation is a bad thing, we must emphasize that these weapons will be under the control of the Wildfire institute (a non military disease research and control organization) and will only be used as defensive weapons in response to chemical or biological attacks. It is Mondoth' spolicy and the opinion of this government and the people that support it that Biological weapons are much more dangerous and despicable than nuclear ones, a weaponized disease can kill off entire populations and destroy entire countries through lasting and painful disease, ultimately causing much more suffering and death than any nuclear weapon. The secondary infection capability of most biological weapons also reduces the ability of any organization to control an outbreak (even one they instigated) while die out times and infection rates CAN be programmed and planned, there is no guarantee that a random mutation will not undue these 'safety' precautions, where as nuclear weapons work on known, understood and intensely controllable physical interactions, there is no chance of a random occurence killing off entire nations. Nuclear weapons also offer the ability to safely cauterize ANY infection site, making their utility as an anti biological weapon system unmatched by any counter disease available.

greetings Mondoth
The tokera would like to discuss the exchange of embassys, military bases and posibly a alliance.

OOC: arrg, just closed my file with all that info, now I got to reopen...
IC:
Our embassy detail is;
1 ambassador
137 embassy staff
48 armed Marine Guards (48 G-11 AR, 48 PG-11 side Arm and 2 SG-12 DMR)
1 armed helicopter
2 unarmed Helicopter
2 APCs

can be modified for individual nations policies

Mondoth accepts embassies with the following rules
No more than 50 armed guards
No more than 2 armed helicopters
No more than 4 armed vehicles
No highly explosive weapons (Flash-bangs and similar weapons are allowed) or Main Battle Tanks please

Also, Mondoth invites applicable nations to join the Mutual Aid Pact of Less Powerful Nations (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8807728)

as for military bases, what kind of base do you wish to establish (Airforce, Naval or ground forces, or a combination?)

As for Alliances: What kind of alliance do ou wish to make between our two nations (Military, Economic or Political?)
(OOC: Sorry about strict adherence to the form letter here, its getting late, I'm about to go to sleep and my creative juices aren't flowing so well.)

The Republic of the Great Alcont dissaproves and condemns the actions of the Mondothian government. Such an act can only contribute to more discordance and chaos on this world. We demand a stop of your obvious agressive actions.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/Fascist_Confederacy/TASS.jpg

News from the nation of Mondoth seems to always be grim. Reports are begining to flush in that as a result of chemical weapon and biological weapon proliferation, a sort of defensive array is being erected all across the nation. The Mondoth administration has confirmed that instead of innocent rural build-up, the two newest Intercontinental Ballistic Missile silos for the 'Mondoth Defensive Array' are being constructed in a rural portion of Mondoth.

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/conspiracy_theory/admin/pics/Satellite%20image%20of%20Iran's%20military%20facilities%20in%20Parchin%20where%20the%20US%20charges% 20that%20Tehran%20is%20carrying%20out%20simulation%20testin.jpg

The Politburo has refused to comment on this new construction which could cause tension to rise between the previously ignored nation of Mondoth. However a representative from the Moscow Duma stated:

I find it unsettling that in a world where already, too much weapons of destruction exist, that the 'peaceful' nation of Mondoth would jeopardize their relatively spotless record with the construction of a strategic defense network. What a pity.

Some people within the Moscow Duma agree; however, most do not. The general census about Mondoth is that it is a bourgeois democracy headed by an elitist horde. Please stay tuned to TASS for more updates.

- Nataliya Volsayovich, Senior Journalist, Telegrafnoe Agentstvo Sovetskogo Soiuza, Ukranian SSR

The Republic of the Great Alcont dissaproves and condemns the actions of the Mondothian government. Such an act can only contribute to more discordance and chaos on this world.

OOC: arrg, just closed my file with all that info, now I got to reopen...
IC:
Our embassy detail is;
1 ambassador
137 embassy staff
48 armed Marine Guards (48 G-11 AR, 48 PG-11 side Arm and 2 SG-12 DMR)
1 armed helicopter
2 unarmed Helicopter
2 APCs

can be modified for individual nations policies

Mondoth accepts embassies with the following rules
No more than 50 armed guards
No more than 2 armed helicopters
No more than 4 armed vehicles
No highly explosive weapons (Flash-bangs and similar weapons are allowed) or Main Battle Tanks please

Also, Mondoth invites applicable nations to join the Mutual Aid Pact of Less Powerful Nations (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=8807728)

as for military bases, what kind of base do you wish to establish (Airforce, Naval or ground forces, or a combination?)

As for Alliances: What kind of alliance do ou wish to make between our two nations (Military, Economic or Political?)
(OOC: Sorry about strict adherence to the form letter here, its getting late, I'm about to go to sleep and my creative juices aren't flowing so well.)

Thats ok, I get the same way. Ok your embassy standards are acceptable. We would like to exchange a combination of the bases. We would like to start a military alliance with a mutual defence pact or a combination of military,economic, and political.

Tokera: We will accept the propsed exchange of bases, and we agree to an alliance under the original rules you posted

To all concerned nations:

We again remind all concerned nations that this is a purely defensive measure and is completely in the hands of our foremost expertson the weapons we wish it to dfend against. this is not a tool of war and a combination of safety and security measures ensure that these nuclear devices could never be used as such.
We would like to point out as well that thisis not a signifigant nuclear force by any means, we would like to direct your attentiont o nations like 'Infoclypse Industries' that controls litterally thousands of missiles and actively sells their launch coes to any interested party. We are a very minor player in nuclear proliferation, your time would be better spent elsewhere in this world, decrying the proliferation of those who actually proliferate nuclear and biological weapons, instead of those who simply wish to secure their own population against the deadliest threat out there.

OOC: There area actually eight rural improvement projects under way right now that could conceal the construction of additional silo's, I'll tell you right now that those projects are completely legit, even my news leaks are smart enough not to say where the missiles are really being built.

OOC:Thats okay, there are sattelites that are capable of detecting and finding so-called 'hidden' missile silos.

PS:You plane on containing a disease by NUKING your OWN nation? What kind of whacked out policy is THAT??!!

OOC: sure, you can find conventionally hidden silo's, but these are 'hidden' in plain site. so, what looks like a missile silo, but isn't. either way, ICly you should still be investigating the eight public works 'decoys'
and a low yield modern nuclear weapon with low levels of fallout and engineered so that what fallout there is has a very short half life (few days/months) is the ideal way to keep an infection from spreading. of course, it would only be used in situations where the disease cannot be contained in any other fashion. I mean, it beats using a fuel air bomb for economy and effectiveness, and IIRC thats somewhere in american biological warfare containment policy, if the disease is out of control, kill it.

OOC: [...] and a low yield modern nuclear weapon with low levels of fallout and engineered so that what fallout there is has a very short half life (few days/months) is the ideal way to keep an infection from spreading. of course, it would only be used in situations where the disease cannot be contained in any other fashion. I mean, it beats using a fuel air bomb for economy and effectiveness, and IIRC thats somewhere in american biological warfare containment policy, if the disease is out of control, kill it.

OOC: Hope you don't mind if I add my own bit of constructive criticism.

I see a bit of a problem with your strategy here. There are very few radioactive elements that have the half-life you're talking about, and I don't believe any of them are suitable for use in a nuclear weapon. Not only that, but, IIRC, they also decay to plutonium or uranium, which have much longer half-lives.

On another note, even with so-called "tactical" nukes, fallout and radiation will still be such that it will outweigh the benefits of incinerating the disease. You'd probably be better off using a carpet-napalm technique, or MOABs. If a 21,000-pound bomb doesn't take care of it for you, you've got a hell of a disease on your hands. Just to give you an idea of what a MOAB can do, check this video of one going off (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/images/030311-d-9085m-004.mpg) out.

for destroying a disease I would suggest using a fuel air bomb

OOC: IIRC there is a variety of materials (not elements per se) that feature relatively low half lives (maybe in the high end of months to low end of years) that would be suitable for creating nuclear weapons of this type (thermonuclear, which, again IIRC have very low amounts of fallout, could be mistaken though) anyway, You have to understand that Modnothians are very fearful of wide sale deadly diseases and contagions (more so than normal people) and that many portions of Mondothian culture and foreign policy are centered around this abiding fear (resulting from widespread use dudring a variety of wars in early mondothian history) so, in their minds cauterizing a certain level of outbreak (like I said, one that would be very difficult to contain and is very dangerous, like an infected city, or an infection in a very 'connected' place (one that it is easy to get to/from), situations where either a fuel air bomb would not be practical, or where speed is of the essence (it takes time to load a fuel air bomb onto a plane, and then fly the plane to the target, a nuke just needs to have the button pushed and away it goes) ) with nuclear weapons is not overkill at all, its prudence. Airborne agents are also viable targets for missile strike, you can never be sure if a disease could not somehow get into a plane and be spread to a new breeding ground.