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In response to concerns expressed by the international community at large as to the escalation of the Arabanistan Willink conflict into a veritable nucleur holocaust, the Blessed Chris proposes the immediate cessation of hostilities between all combatant nations to facilitate peace talks. As the representatives of the colletive will of our respective nations, the creation of a nucleur holocaust is an baject failure for all involved. Despite the excessive response by Arabanistan to an essentially tactical nucleur strike, the blessed Chris is willing to cease all hostile operations, with the promise of no recriminations or further conflicts for a month.

We would appreciate the intervention of a netral, non-combatant state to establish the treaty under which peace is procured, in accordance with the combatants agreements.

Yours sincerely

Lord High Imperator Yriel

We will attend

Ill attend once the enemy nations abort their nukes and ill do the same with my nukes.

The Confedracy wil attend, however i believe it would be best just ot stop the missiels in the posisitons for the peace talks as noone seems woilling ot abort their weapons first.

Message from General Raijin

They killed General Hein! Like hell we'll stop it! The bastard started a war he couldn't finish. Kjata Major is saddened by General Hein's death and also the fact of his hidden nuclear weapon, but it is completely fair under Military Law #47.

To: Kjata Major

If everyone else wants peace but you, then Ill BAN you from any thread related to this war and IGNORE you!

Your choice!

The Confedracy wil attend, however i believe it would be best just ot stop the missiels in the posisitons for the peace talks as noone seems woilling ot abort their weapons first.

I concur, but will nonetheless abort my missiles subsequent to the temporary cessation of hostilities.

My thanks for everyone's attendance, I hope negotiations can be constructive.

To: Kjata Major

If everyone else wants peace but you, then Ill BAN you from any thread related to this war and IGNORE you!

Your choice!

OOC: Read the post on the other thread, you denied any peace at all. As such we will bring you to your knees in ONLY unconditional surrender to be dealt with by our nicest General, General Lina. Only under that will we have a cease-fire, but as laws of war go we are well within NS and real world rights to continue this war.

The little country of Thalako wants help this two countries, we want send humanitary aid if necessary and accept immigrants from Arabinistani or Willink .

Arabanistan has ABORTED all it's ICBMs heading towrds Blessed Chris and Spazania!

We now have NO nuclear attacks in operation.

Arabanistan hopes other nations take this as a gesture of goodwill.

Then as of now Kjata Major your BANNED from RP in this thread or the war thread.

Ill IGNORE any more posts that you make!

Im IGNORING your ICBM as well.

Arabanistan, please don't threatan Kjata Major in my negotiations, I consider him an ally, and it's hardly appropriate diplomatic policy. May I suggest a formal apology to all affected parties by all affected paries.

Kjata Major is no longer in this RP or the war RP

Im Ignoring him.

As of now the enemy side is Willink, B. Chris and Spazania.

We are now asking peace of your three nations.

Arabanistan, please don't threatan Kjata Major in my negotiations, I consider him an ally, and it's hardly appropriate diplomatic policy. May I suggest a formal apology to all affected parties by all affected paries.

Umm ya....all you had to do was stop it and General Raijin would do the same thing...You don't threaten allies and launch nukes.

Though its ummm....a little late cause...Hein is dead, you'd need to hit it with a Tungsten rod. Your ally did it to me, since I can't attack space easily I fired it at you.

EDIT: Darn double post sorry, error on Jolt

I'll make this worthwhile I guess.

I wanted peace and tried to get it, but only after this war and our large losses will be accept the Arabanistan nations total and complete surrender.

We won't change the government, or the people. Just want an apology for insulting our people, God and a non-aggression pact for 50 years.

To: Kjata Major

Either you can abort your ICBM and we then go to peace talks and discuss the original demands OR if you insist on causing a nuclear holocaust then Ill ignore you.

Your choice!!!

Ummm, Arabanistan, that is not a good reson to ignore people.

To: Kjata Major

Either you can abort your ICBM and we then go to peace talks and discuss the original demands OR if you insist on causing a nuclear holocaust then Ill ignore you.

Your choice!!!

You have to destroy it! I'd be godmodding if I canceled it now, my base is WRECKED. There is no way to stop it. Just shoot it and make it explode in a less dangerous area. Otherwise hope it messes up. You still have the chemical strikes, which by your IC thread will be useless.

To: Kjata Major

Your making a contradiction.

Total surrender implies that you wish for occupation and a change of the Arabanistani government.

However if you only wish for a letter of apology and a 50 yr non agreesion pact, then that is a ceasfire leading to a peace treaty.

And Arabanistan can apologise and give you the 50 yr treaty as long as it does not infringe on our independence.

Kjata, I fought against Arabanistan, and launched nothing against you. Sorry for considering you an ally without asking. Incidentally, what do you propose doing with Arabanistan when you defeat it?

OOC: I should be very pissed off, I've lost a lot of money if those nukes land and the capital ships in my fleet can't escape fast enough before they are devastated.

IC: We'll attend, after we sort out the mess that was that war.

OOC: And with me and McKagan being the closest fleets we can occupy the fastest. Besides it'll be years before you can even set foot on that land without being poisoned.

To: Kjata Major

Your making a contradiction.

Total surrender implies that you wish for occupation and a change of the Arabanistani government.

However if you only wish for a letter of apology and a 50 yr non agreesion pact, then that is a ceasfire leading to a peace treaty.

And Arabanistan can apologise and give you the 50 yr treaty as long as it does not infringe on our independence.

OOC: Unconditional means we decide what happens. Literally unconditonal!

IC:We could work out a system of were your people suited for death can be shipped to us and we pay you (we need more people), and simply buy stuff and increase your economy.

It's not this massive destruction thing we want, we don't WANT to obliterate your nation, just the whole insulting our God is bad.

Arabanistan can agree to that.

We can ship all traitors and criminals to you.

Could you as part of a peace deal give us the co-ordinates for the ICBM so we can shoot it down and avert mass death.

You see everyone, isn't negotiation and civility fun..... :

If Kjata Major so decides, it can have our degenerate peoples: criminals, unemployed, poor people et al, for no price nor condition other than a formal alliance adn exchange of embassy.

You see everyone, isn't negotiation and civility fun..... :

OOC: I am so lost now. I'mgoign to assume that Arabanistan is no longer a plate of glass, and I'm going to start landing troops and ASAT equipment pronto if Arabanistan is kind enough to let me.

OOC: Yeah, Arbanistan you can't ignore Kjata Major because he doesnt want peace, which he does now.

And I'd try to stop the missile but I gotta go Right now.

Arabanistan has not yet been hit with nukes, only conventional missiles and chemical weapons.

Arabanistan can agree to that.

We can ship all traitors and criminals to you.

Could you as part of a peace deal give us the co-ordinates for the ICBM so we can shoot it down and avert mass death.

Umm...remember how I said the missile was Hein's secret project and utterly was a piece of crap missile? You can shoot it down on a 30 degree trajectory, hit the base of the rocket and the thing will spin and smash into the ocean.

The missiles are arranged in the air with the Kanji for "Die" over your entire nation. Since they are of no real threat, best to let them smash into the ground and shoot down the ones targeting your highest civilian and military buildings in every major city.

The Confederacy is updating the target packages on the cruise missiles, they will turn back and ditch in the sea where they can be recovered and the warheads reused, however the ICBMs will not be aborted until the succesful completion fo peace talks.

Frst chemical/bioogical warhead seperation 5 minutes
Nuclear warhead seperation in 15 minutes.
Chemical Warhead seperation in 22 minutes

Spizania, your ICBMs cannot stay in the air for the whole duration of peace talks.

Thats too long.

I have aborted my ICBMs and so has B. Chris.

Kjata has given me data to knock out his ICBM.

Please show a goodwill gesture, for peace.

Arbanistan, I'm gonna authorize you to use Borman's HDP (Halo Defense Program), which is basically a fancy name for a shitload of air and missile defences using combined intelligence for maximum effectivness. It was designed to protect allies to and so should be able to reach you and shoot that missile down. And thus Im authorizing you to use it to shoot it down, it'll have something like an 80% chance of sucess.

Borman is happy to see a peaceful resolution. All we request is 75 square miles with which to construct a military base on, we will construct it ourselves. When it is done, or at least the skeleton, we can send out humanitarian teams to begin to repair the nation of Armanistan.

What do you mean, i have already stood down eighty five nuclear weapons adn a whole host of ohter equipment, ive shown my goodwill geature.

OOC: Is it possible to ditch an ICBM wihtout destroying it?

IC: The Leafanistani Fleet sent a communication to Arabanistan to begin landing operations and to set up ASAT defenses.

Spizania:

You could give me the location of the missiles and Ill destroy them with your consent, like Kjata Major did when he let me destroy his ICBM.

I am attempting to recover them if they get too close to your country we will destroy them however i would like to recover the warheads.

fair enough

Then as of now Kjata Major your BANNED from RP in this thread or the war thread.

Ill IGNORE any more posts that you make!

Im IGNORING your ICBM as well.

Willink uses its anti-ignore cannon, you can't ban him because he wants to kill your country...

Willink, he is now at peace and dialogue is now happening.

Nobody is therefore banned now, ignore that.

I am attempting to recover them if they get too close to your country we will destroy them however i would like to recover the warheads.

Our missile can be recovered by any country, we will want it though also.

Ok, can all nations now put forward the conditions for peace talks, lets start going IC on our threads.

Our missile can be recovered by any country, we will want it though also.

Leafanistani ships watching splashdowns of missiles deployed Spec ops teams from Virginia-class subs to retrieve and analyze the missiles. A message was sent to Kjata Major.

To: Kjata Major

As an end to hostilities begins we are recovering missiles that have splashed down and will be returning them to you in the condition they were recovered in.

I dont really want much, maybe an Embassy and a shipyard for my fleet, oh adn the rihgt to recruit troops into my "foreign legion" from your country (only a few thousand every year).

Karuchea asks this:
-All nations involved immediately call 1 month cease-fire.
-All nations sign an anti-nuclear treaty which bans the use of nuclear weapons and WMDs against each other in any future conflict.
-No nation is to take full responsibility for the war or be forced to pay reparations.

These would be the temporary terms of a full-armistace with the full terms being made out by the end of the 1-month period. If no terms are met, nations are free to return to war, however, the ban on WMDs still applys if a further conflict should break out.

Willink wishes for a non-agression pack for 20 years, along with a embassy, in exchange willink will take in the rebuilding of the Port(forgot the name) to a beautiful and vibrant city.(City pictures and layot will be that of Abu Dhabi, UAE (http://www.welcome-to.com/images/AbuDhabi/abu-dhabi-main.jpg))

Willink wishes for a non-agression pack for 20 years, along with a embassy, in exchange willink will take in the rebuilding of the Port(forgot the name) to a beautiful and vibrant city.(City pictures and layot will be that of Abu Dhabi, UAE (http://www.welcome-to.com/images/AbuDhabi/abu-dhabi-main.jpg))

Leafanistan has no qualms about using its Instant Town packages and Instant bases packages to help rebuild Arabanistan and reinforce it against foreign aggression.

Spizania would also like to help in reconstruction work and would like to help set up new heavy industries in Arabanistan.

Spizania would also like to help in reconstruction work and would like to help set up new heavy industries in Arabanistan.

Given past actions that seems unlikely.

(OOC: Is there a neutral country involved in this yet? If not Cruxgrad would be willing to host talks and so forth.)

What do you mean all my weapons have now been recovered adn are being towed back to Spizania on a barge, (actually that could be a good RP , the barge is taken over by terrorists)

From: The Republic of Arabanistan

To: All Nations

The Republic of Arabanistan agrees to the following conditions put out by Willink, Kjata Major and Spizania:

1.) A non-agression treaty for 20 years between Arabanistan and Willink.

2.) A non-agression treaty for 50 years between Arabanistan and Kjata Major.

3.) That all homosexuals, prostitues, bisexuals, human rights activists, communists, socialists and other anti government persons be sent to the nations of Kjata Major, Willink and Spazania. Spazania may use the exiles from Arabanistan as recruits for it's Foriegn Legion, but not loyal Arabanistani citizens.

4.) NO nation is to press for financial compensation or reperations to another nation. All nations are given the right to ask the international community for aid in helping them to rebuild their nations and military forces.

5.) All nations invloved in this war should make an agreement NOT to use WMDs on each other. This still gives nations the right to use WMDs on nations NOT invloved in this war but the nations that took part in this war should refrain from WMDs in the future for use against each other.

These are Arabanistan's agreed conditions to the ideas already put forward by other nations.

Arabanistan will of course take further ideas with an open mind.

Furthermore Arabanistan will issue a formal apology to the nation of Kjata Major and we hope that your nation can find it in yourself to forgive us as we retract any past statements made against your nation.

President Hafez al Assad

We accept the terms.
OOC: How many men is that?

well the first round to be sent off is about 500,000 people.

After that about 20-30,000 monthly

Agreed.

Im going to be offline until later tonite.

Can we keep any new ideas until then.

Lets make the peace work!

Im not going back to war.

Leafanistan's Tactical Solutions wishes for either an exclusive contract to take the "undesirables" as mercenaries and is willing to pay a lot more for each person than any of these countries or at least a piece of the contract. And Leafanistan did defend you while the others did not.

Borman is happy to see a peaceful resolution. All we request is 75 square miles with which to construct a military base on, we will construct it ourselves. When it is done, or at least the skeleton, we can send out humanitarian teams to begin to repair the nation of Arabanistan.
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Foreign military bases are not allowed in Arabanistan, only civilian ones or embassies.

Leafanistan's Tactical Solutions wishes for either an exclusive contract to take the "undesirables" as mercenaries and is willing to pay a lot more for each person than any of these countries or at least a piece of the contract. And Leafanistan did defend you while the others did not.
You're forgetting McKagan and SkyCapt.

Foreign military bases are not allowed in Arabanistan, only civilian ones or embassies.

Well, you can allow us to have one.

What about 40 sq. miles and no more than 5000 troops?

What about 40 sq. miles and no more than 5000 troops?
Here, how about this:
50 Sq. Miles, 3,800 Troops, the rest are/can be ground crews etc., 40 Aircraft, and however many ground vehicles.
Sound good?

Ackerenia is willing to resend the CNS Excalibur and an entire convoy to Arabanistan. At least 5,000 Red Cross workers will be aboard, with supplies and medical equipment. At least a further 20 billion USD will be sent to Arabanistani reconstruction.

If accepted, then we ask where we may dock, and establish a Red Cross establishment.




Prime Minister Halberd Ackeren

500000 extra troops, how am i going to equip them? Ill take them but im going ot have alot of light infantry until i can find tanks for them all.

500000 extra troops, how am i going to equip them? Ill take them but im going ot have alot of light infantry until i can find tanks for them all.
Tanks? http://forums.battleforeurope.com/bf1942/images/smiles/icon_hum.gif

Any guns, i used ot buy them form you but i doubt thats appropriate any longer.

OOC: You can buy all the guns you need from me!!! :p

What about 40 sq. miles and no more than 5000 troops?

60 sq. miles and we'll accept the troop limit. (Has to be on coast, we want it to be a naval, military, and air force base). I doubt we'll ever have 5,000 soldiers in it, but who knows. If we wanted to invade you we could just place more in and not tell you or just invade.

The purpose of the base is so that we have a military force in one more location, this way if we need to go to war with someone near you, we'll have soldiers around to do so.

Willink also offers to retool the arabanistan navy into a brown-water fleet..

So far it looks like after General Hein's death a new person is going to take over. I made a thread for it. Naturally both already are upset at Arabanistan for the comments said, though it shows a government power change. Everyone here is welcome to check it out, since were all present for Hein's conflict and death. International support is wanted on this.

- thread - http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440789

http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/6487/assassin0sr.jpg - leading
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1451/jester9ie.jpg - second place

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Finally, PEACE, after so much fighting. Rick is happy. Joe is back home. THANK YOU!!!!

OOC: http://forums.battleforeurope.com/bf1942/images/smiles/icon_hum.gif

Willink will be donating the following ships to the Arabanistan navy-

2 Spruance class destroyers (http://www.segurancaedefesa.com/Spruance%20(USS%20Nicholson).jpg)
5 Chao Phraya class frigates (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/thailand/images/kraburi-pic1.jpg)
4 Naresuan Class Frigates (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/thailand/images/naresuan-5.jpg)
2 Maestrale Class frigates (http://www.wpeu.net/BQZs/06/Maestrale%20Class.jpg)
10 Tribal class frigates (http://www.broadspectrum.co.uk/images/ship5.JPG)
8 Inhauma class Corvettes (http://www.mattmar.com.au/Warships_Photos/V30_Inhauma.jpg)
5 Victory class corvettes (http://www.hrvatski-vojnik.hr/hrvatski-vojnik/0222005/bpictures/victory_01%20sl.jpg)
3 Eilat class corvettes (http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/saar5/images/saar13.jpg)
4Badr class corvettes (http://www.paknavy.gov.pk/HISTORY/fleet/IMAGES/fleet1pns_badr__brook___gar.jpg)
10 Houjian class patrol ships (http://www.emeraldesigns.com/matchup/pics/houjian_1.jpg)
4 Flyvefisken class patrol ships (http://www.schnellboot.net/dk/flyvefisken/vorlage/flyvefisken-p550-flyvefisken.jpg)
15 Dabur class patrol ships (http://www.sibat.mod.gov.il/naval/image/dabur.gif)
20 Dvora class patrol ships (http://lambo.ca/barzel/GenImg/Downloads-Super%20Dvora%20Mk%20II.jpg)
8 Saar 4.5 class patrol ships (http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/israel5.jpg)
12 Saar 4 class patrol ships (http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/naval/saar4/saar4_80.gif)
5 Turya class patrol ships (http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNRussian_57mm-75_AK-725_Turya_pic.jpg)
2 Frosch I class amphibious ships (http://peene-werft.hegemann-gruppe.de/pics/schiffe/frosch1.jpg)
1 Osumi Helicopter carrier/amphibious ship (http://www.jda.go.jp/JMSDF/gallery/ships/lst/osumi/img/4002_S.jpg)
10 Osprey class minelayers (http://www.naval-technology.com/contractor_images/intermarine/intermarine2.jpg)
4 Han class attack subs (http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/xiaupgrade2.jpg)
6 Agosta class subs (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/images/agosta-sub_big1.jpg)

All will be supplied immediatly.

<snip>

My, my, generous aren't we? Is there a reason behind reinforcing their navy?

-Minister of Justified Candy

Because he said he would?...

My, my, generous aren't we? Is there a reason behind reinforcing their navy?

-Minister of Justified Candy


Surplus stuff i had to get rid of.

"Karuchea happily sees the negotions, however, the request by some Imperialist nations that wish to have military bases in Arabanistan should be rejected immediately. Karuchea is sending 150,000 troops into Arabanistan to protect the borders and to stand guard under joint United Arab State control to ensure the sovereignity of Arabanistan is protected. In addition, the UAS pledges over 200 SAM bases will be established in Arabanistan and 10,000 AK-74s will be given free of charge to the Arabanistan military. Also, we would like to sign deals that would give Arabanistan additional naval and air force equipment as well as a yearly amount of aid to be decided later given by Karuchea to Arabanistan to aid in rebuilding and then in the construction of the Socialist Ba'ath society. Long Live Ba'athism and Arab Unity!"
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General Secretary of the Ba'ath Arab Socialist Party, Muhammed Nyerere.

Willink understands Karuchea reasons for concern and will be supply materials for factories within Arabanistan, and with Arabanistans permission, i will begin rebuilding Domar (?)

Cobalt Wing 01 is securing the waters off the nation.

BOOM, our part is done.

We wish to take it upon ourselves to better equip the Arabanistani Military and will be shipping RPG-7s with tandem-HEAT warheads to that nation.

"Karuchea happily sees the negotions, however, the request by some Imperialist nations that wish to have military bases in Arabanistan should be rejected immediately. Karuchea is sending 150,000 troops into Arabanistan to protect the borders and to stand guard under joint United Arab State control to ensure the sovereignity of Arabanistan is protected. In addition, the UAS pledges over 200 SAM bases will be established in Arabanistan and 10,000 AK-74s will be given free of charge to the Arabanistan military. Also, we would like to sign deals that would give Arabanistan additional naval and air force equipment as well as a yearly amount of aid to be decided later given by Karuchea to Arabanistan to aid in rebuilding and then in the construction of the Socialist Ba'ath society. Long Live Ba'athism and Arab Unity!"
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General Secretary of the Ba'ath Arab Socialist Party, Muhammed Nyerere.

...Encrypting...
...2VX Encryption complete...

Official Imperial Communique:

To: Karuchea
From: Chancellor Licinius

We understand Karuchea's concern. And wish them to know that if they continue to protest against our wants and stand against us they will quickly find themselves swarming with Borman soldiers. Shut up and sit down and let the big boy do his buisness. This will be your only warning.

End Transmission

OOC:*Points at above* I ocncur and how would you like my new army group form Arabnistan numebring half a million well equiped and trained men also swarming you.

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