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The deadline is up I'm mobilizing my forced to invade TCU, the numbers are: (NOTE: Won't begin actual war untill TCU has had a chance to catch-up)

Army:

2,700: M1-23 "Striker" MBTs

2,300: M-37 "Landstalker" APCs

800: "Freedom" SAM/SSM Batteries


3,000: Hummer H-1s (Military Variant), ½ Roof Mounted 50. Cals, ¼ Roof Mounted Grenade Launchers, ¼ Roof Mounted T.O.W. Missiles.

3,000: Miscellaneous Support

NOTE: This is only vehicles, not infantry.

Total: 6,400 Vehicles 500,000 Infantry

Navy:

2: Tri-Maran Class Fleet Carriers

1: Firebird-Class Aircraft Carriers (AZK version)

1: Grobe-Class Super-Dreadnoughts

24: Titan-Class Missile Cruisers

12: Triton-Class Tri-Maran Frigates

34: Flextie-Class Destroyers

23: Seal-Class Fast Missile Boats

4: Delta-Class Special Operations Boats

8: Boomer-Class Nuclear Attack Submarines

70: Whiplash-Class FAB’s (Fast Attack Boats)



Air Force:

500: F-22 Air-to-Air

520: F-18 Multi-Role Fighters

570: Blackhawk Helicopters

20: C-25 Heavy Transports

20: AN-124 Heavy Transports

20: C-17 Globemaster IIIs

10: KC-10A Extenders

100: Comanche Attack Helicopters

256: Special Operations “Littlebird” MD-500 gunships.

1: F-167 Aurora Reconnaissance Aircraft

5: B-2 Sprits

20: AC-130 Gunships

160: C-130s

5: E-3 Sentries


(Forces are inroute, will take 1 RL day to read TCU) Oil is free from an ally nation, also the tropps are on An-224s and C-5s and the armor is on my ships.

IC: In response to the mobilization efforts of the hostile parties, it has been decided by the Elect (Elected Leaders of Congress) that a massive effort to protect TCU be initiated. 20 Heavy Carrier Battlegroups, 40 Force Extention Amp Assault Ship Battlegroups, and 40 SLBM Submarine Patrols are being moved into defensive positions around TCU shores.

The 1st Mobile Infantry Strike Force, 2nd Helo Attack and Support Corps, 5th Independant Maneuver War Unit, 32nd Marine Assault Corps, and 89th Citizen Militia are being moved to secure the land claims of TCU. The 3rd, 10th, and 40th Combat Air Wings, the 78th Stealth Bomber Force, and the 100th UCAV Strike Wing are currently patrolling TCU airspace and will shoot down any hostile aircraft within 10 miles of TCU boarders. Sebecean Air Forces are being supported by many "Star" Formation SAM Sites.

Along with a few other Special Operations Groups the total Sebecean Combat Personnel presence in TCU is 16,790,342; With about 60,000 in Command and Intel Personnel. About 20 million more are on standby orders.

The S.H.C.S.D.I. is now at Military Action Condition 1(Black: Total War- Take no prisoners, execute all hostile personnel)

OOC: not to be rude or anything but i do not think you have the troops to support all that without having you economy implode

working on IC post

OOC: not to be rude or anything but i do not think you have the troops to support all that without having you economy implode

working on IC post

OOC: Maybe for your nation, but the culture and political structure of mine allows for mass professional warfare.

OOC: i was not talking about your nation...

BTW: I'm off for the night will cont. in the morn.

Green Sun will graciously call Flightopia's call and will join you in this noble cause, but we will first have to deal with an ignorant nation called Setian-Sebeceans.

While the sovereignity of a government is a very high priority, the safety of a people comes first. If a nation begins to ruthessly slaughter its people, that government has violated its own sovereigity. The Government is there to rule, not destroy, its people. A man can deprieve his family from food, but not to the point that they starve to death.

We of the Grand Archfiends Council are proud of TCU's actions for it brings our master more souls. Souls of the dead, especailly those killed in cold blood hold a great deal of power and for his actions we are greatful....

OOC: this will have to do for now, make a better one after i get some sleep

IC: As of now Nebarri Prime is now at war with The Conservative Union

Does anybody else smell "biggest godmod in the history of the world", even dwarfing Vizions 90,000 combat planes?
"170,000: M1-23 "Striker" MBTs"
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Noone EVER could mobilise or even keep 170,000 tanks. A tank is just far too big to be kept in those numbers. You need far too much oil or diesel to keep them going, including money and training, etc. This would barely be managable for a 5 billion nation, let alone a nation below a tenth of that..Try using realistic numbers for a 433 million country with only a Powerhouse economy, maybe something like 2-3,000 MBTs and APCs, not 170,000.. Then you have the utterly idiotic "1,823,000 vehicles"
Do you even know how much money+fuel this would cost, or how much of your infrastructure would be put at risk even *mobilising* these vehicles?
And how are you going to get them to TCU anyway?
Unless this number is changed I strongly advise the Conservative Union to ignore this.

OOC: It's true he needs to step down his forces. Spearheading this attack, Flightopia, is not a good idea until you can have your numbers straitened out.

OOC: Flightopia, he's right you know... feulling those things is gonna cost and an arm, a leg, and your first born. It is true, that yes I would have simmilar problems, but most of the fuel used by the Sebecean Military is Bio-Fuels such as Bio-Diesel and a few other bio-fuels that are easily made through algae (seaweed), plants, and/or a bacterial process. And due to the Cleaner Military Grade Biofuels, our fuel cost are at half and sometimes less than they should be.

OOC: Sweet, Biodiesel. I should do that.
IC:
Green Sun will use the following in this coalition:
Second, Third, and Fifth Fleet (See factbook, I just have yet to translate that into MT ships)
80 SSABs (Smaller-sized Attack boats, which double as beach landers)
Ten Combat Battalions (10,000 Combat soldiers)
Eight Non-Combat battalions (5,000 engineers, medics, etc.)
Sixty packs of Armor (15 tanks or Humvees to a Pack, so this is about 900 armored vehicles)
Forty Wings of Nymph Fighter/Bombers (5 jets each, so this is 200 jets)
250 Non-fighter jets (Cargo jets, bombers, etc.)
1400 Chinooks
1000 Combat helicopters

This is the Attack Force Green Sun will use until we have secured a large perimeter so Green Sun can land a larger attack force.

Starenell will also land a force, as of yet to be decided.

OOC: Wow... TCU and Setian-Sebeceans are doomed.

OOC: Nah, they can ignore Flightopia until he steps down his forces. I'm older than him and he has more combat vehicles than I have men in my entire armed forces.

OOC: Give him time to edit the stuff then we will see what he has

OOC: Nah, they can ignore Flightopia until he steps down his forces. I'm older than him and he has more combat vehicles than I have men in my entire armed forces.
OOC: Oh, and what happened? How did The Velkyan Union die out?

sorry about this, but curently I have friends in NO, where the cat 5 hurriucane is going to hit, so if i'm slow to respond it is because I'm dealing with this situation. Aslo i will edit mt numbers, sorry but I goit a bit frazled last night.

Green Sun will graciously call Flightopia's call and will join you in this noble cause, but we will first have to deal with an ignorant nation called Setian-Sebeceans.

While the sovereignity of a government is a very high priority, the safety of a people comes first. If a nation begins to ruthessly slaughter its people, that government has violated its own sovereigity. The Government is there to rule, not destroy, its people. A man can deprieve his family from food, but not to the point that they starve to death.
OCC: Thank You.

OOC: The numbers look reasonable now, but 34 Destroyers is a bit much...

OOC: The numbers look reasonable now, but 34 Destroyers is a bit much...
I'm not going to let the larger ships get taken out, also, I can send out some in 2-3 ship destroyer groups for "other" operations.

OOC: Wow... TCU and Setian-Sebeceans are doomed.

OOC: Not quiet, I still have fielded the most units, with many more ready to go. Sebecean troops have a habit of making war unbareable for our enemies. Plus we have the Militia Combat Act which allows any private person or group of citizens to fight for the Sebecean Government. The Sebecean Military provides basic needs (not weapons, citizens must have their own equipment) aslong as they follow the orders of Command. They are free to leave when they want, and they can provide for themselves if they want to (The richer bands do). All militia fighters are paid (atleast grunt pay, and can be paid up to what they make at their dayjob) for there duties.

Mondoth has decided, that with the increase of military action int he area, that a second and third task force be dispatched, We still maintain neutrality i this conflict until and unless shots are fired. As a neutral power we extend an invitation to the leaders of all nations to send delegates to discuss peaceful terms of ending this conflict before it begins.

Mondothian Forces in Area:

1 missile/carrier type Mithril class dreadnaught
1 Missile/Gun type Mithril class dreadnaught
2 Carrier type Quicksilver class battlecruisers
2 missile/gun type Quicksilver class battlecruisers
4 Missile/gun type Hermes class destroyers
8 Barrier/Gun type Hermes class destroyers
24 various types Mercury class corvettes

Forces enroute to conflict area:

2 missile/carrier type Mithril class dreadnaught
2 Missile/Gun type Mithril class dreadnaught
4 Carrier type Quicksilver class battlecruisers
4 missile/gun type Quicksilver class battlecruisers
8 Missile/gun type Hermes class destroyers
16 Barrier/Gun type Hermes class destroyers
48 various types Mercury class corvettes

The world was warring. When one conflict died out, another sprung up in it's place, and former allies suddenly found themselves at odds with each other. Commander Pierce looked up from the war table. An officer walked into the War Room, and updated him on the situation in TCU. "Mondoth has moved in?" "Yeah. Looks like it'll be a war to behold..." "Like the nuclear war in Arabanistan?" "Almost Nuclear War in Arabanistan." "Same thing. Everyone almost turned Arabanistan into a sheet of glass the world has never seen." "Anyways... What do we do about the TCU's predicament?" "Are you nuts," Pierce neraly yelled, something he did very rarely. "The 2nd and 3rd Naval Task Forces are in for repairs, rest, and relaxation, something they haven't had in months! Especially the 2nd, they've been through Millenium, then VSI, then Arabanistan! Our forces are in no condition to fight!" "But-" "No buts. We aren't going in unless provoked, or unless something happens to one of our allies. IF they get involved. Dismissed." The men walked out, one them remarking, "Told you he wouldn't agree." "Shut up."

OOC: Has TCU even replied? It's like the Call To Power situation awhile ago, he pissed off alot of bigger nations, and before they could kill him he left the forums for a month or 2, he came back, but I remembered him and we and my allies threatened to invade him(he killed some of my allies troops, that were there peacefully), and he left again, haven't seen him since.

We will deploy a small task force 2 miles from TCU's waters for observational purposes, which includes:

5x CloudElectric Fast Attack Craft
1x Starcommander Light Aircraft Carrier
2x Commandcontrol Battleships
2x Waterspeed SSNs
1x Seal-class Destroyer

All ships in this task force will not attack unless fired upon first.

The rest period for the task forces was done. The men were eager for action, and the situation in TCU looked promising. COmmander Pierce mulled over the hotspot with his officers. They finally settled the matter after days of discussion. They would go in if none of their allies went to war against The Conservative Union. The 2nd and 3rd Naval Task FOrces were placed on stand by, and were being readied...

OOC: The numbers look reasonable now, but 34 Destroyers is a bit much...
Do you even know what a destroyer is by definition or task?

The numbers look alright I guess.

-Lone Alliance Council Meeting-
"What is it this time?" "The Conservative Union is being an ass again."
"Not again, someone needs to wipe that SOB out." "Flightopia is planning on attacking them, should we give our support?" "Indeed, prepare our paratroop unit also."

-Lone Alliance Announcement-
The Lone Alliance announces that they will provide aid in stopping The Conservative Union, if this will result in occupiation of TCU to make sure they don't continue to act in this manner.

OOC: Yes, yes I do.

OCC: What are the dimesions and topogrophy for TCU?

IC: "Once we have sorted though all the intel we will establish a beachhead.
"
"Very good Sir"

OOC: Yes, yes I do.

OOC: then you know that 34 of them is not all that much. the US had near a hundred of them in 1984 and Flightopia is larger than the US

IC: Nebarri Prime will be deploying

2 Battleships
6 Carriers
20 Frigates
20 Destroyers
20 Cruisers
20 Submarines

1,000 Fighters
500 Attack planes
100 ASW planes
500 Attack Helicopters
100 Bombers

500,000 Combat Infintry

4,000 Tanks
5,000 Shell Artillery
2,000 MLRS
6,000 SAMs
10,000 APCs
2,000 IFV
10,000 Humvee

the types of units are to be kept secret up to the point of the landing.

Jenrak urges all nations to peacefully settle this conflict out through diplomacy. You are acting like children.

Jenrak urges all nations to peacefully settle this conflict out through diplomacy. You are acting like children.
Diplomacy is a waste of time on The Conservative Union, we tried it before ourselves and yet they never learn.
Fool me twice...

1st Airborne Army
7500 Soldiers AK74, 88mm Mortars, M79GL, ATrifles

100 Wiesel Light Airborne tanks.
50 M551 Seridans
200 BMDs
5 Sultan Command Vehicles.
45 Spartan IFVs
70 ASU-85s.
300 Transport Planes.
70 A-10s

Official Republic Response

Forgive us for being out of the loop here, but what exactly has The Conservative Union done to warrent this troop deployment against it?

Donald Giert, Foreign Minister.
The People's Republic of New Sans

OOC: Genocide.

IC: In response to the mobilization efforts of the hostile parties, it has been decided by the Elect (Elected Leaders of Congress) that a massive effort to protect TCU be initiated. 20 Heavy Carrier Battlegroups, 40 Force Extention Amp Assault Ship Battlegroups, and 40 SLBM Submarine Patrols are being moved into defensive positions around TCU shores.

The 1st Mobile Infantry Strike Force, 2nd Helo Attack and Support Corps, 5th Independant Maneuver War Unit, 32nd Marine Assault Corps, and 89th Citizen Militia are being moved to secure the land claims of TCU. The 3rd, 10th, and 40th Combat Air Wings, the 78th Stealth Bomber Force, and the 100th UCAV Strike Wing are currently patrolling TCU airspace and will shoot down any hostile aircraft within 10 miles of TCU boarders. Sebecean Air Forces are being supported by many "Star" Formation SAM Sites.

Along with a few other Special Operations Groups the total Sebecean Combat Personnel presence in TCU is 16,790,342; With about 60,000 in Command and Intel Personnel. About 20 million more are on standby orders.

The S.H.C.S.D.I. is now at Military Action Condition 1(Black: Total War- Take no prisoners, execute all hostile personnel)


In response to increased hostile activity, the Imperial Monarchy and the Elect have decided to increase the number of Imperial Forces and to send in 5 million Congressional Marines.

Imperial Forces will be renforced by about 7 million more Imperial Forces and about 5 million Congressional Marines. The boarder and coastal areas of TCU are being fortified with walls, tunnels, artillery, mines, trenches, pill boxes, and the newest state of the art Sebecean SAM/SAC (Surface to Air Missile/Cannon).

Warning to all Hostile Forces: Any hostile vessel, vehicle, aircraft, or personnel within 25 miles (40.23 km) will be fired upon without mercy.

Official Republic Response

Forgive us for being out of the loop here, but what exactly has The Conservative Union done to warrent this troop deployment against it?

Donald Giert, Foreign Minister.
The People's Republic of New Sans

Acting as a Sovreign Nation has caused him to be pushed around by these socialistic, power, mongers.

OOC: Umm, Setian-Sebeceans, everyone, has anyone even heard from TCU, I'd stop until he responds, and Setian-Sebeceans, even though you're not attacking TCU, you cannot land forces nd build defences with out TCU's permission, thus you are godmodding, same with your forces in his waters.

EDIT: If he has responded, ignore me...

OCC: Is there a thread on the genocide? Just want to see the background on this.

OOC: He still hasn't posted yet...He'll probably ignore this.
We also would pledge our support to this cause however due to the increasing number of troops we will not be sending our own men as they would be just a drop in the bucket compared to the massive forces you can bring to bear, instead we will support any decisions you make in the international community and we will also provide any intel we can, May you have a swift victory.
-Chairman Alexance

OCC: Is there a thread on the genocide? Just want to see the background on this.

OCC: Here is the link: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440444&page=1&pp=15

While Jenrak has certain political ideals and economic structures close to TCU, we do not allow the purging ideal of Genocide. As such, we will remain neutral in this conflict, but may jump in later when things become dire for the one who we deem is truly worthy of victory.

SkyCapt High Command was scurrying about the control center, working out issues. A government official, followed by someone who appeared to be a scientist, walked in, and went to Commander Pierce. "John, there's been an... Incident, one that requires your immediate attention. And the removal of our forces stationed in and around The Conservative Union." "What do you mean 'Crisis'?" "It's classified, and can't be discussed here." "Give me two hours to get our withdrawl of SkyCapt forces, and I'll be with you." "Sure, sure." The official walked out of the large building, followed by his companion...
OOC: Incase you don't get it, the RSA, RSAF, and RSNC forces stationed over there are leaving...

OCC: Here is the link: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440444&page=1&pp=15

Occ: Thanks, and for only having one post in the thread TCU can sure rile people up. :p

Official Republic Response

Having reviewed what information about this potential conflict we see that so far it seems to be more of a who will fire first situation, and as of this moment our nation deems it in it's best interest to not involve itself in this matter.

However our nation would like to know why the nation of Flightopia is even bothering with this seeing their disregard for the people of their own and other nations. Seeing how you and we quote in regards to the nation of Setian-Sebeceans, "If your nation attempts to attack my nation I will launch ALL of my nukes." You wish to stop genocide, but at the moment someone interferes with you believe is right you move straight to what your nation says it is trying to stop. The hypocrisy does not help your cause in our eyes.

Donald Giert, Foriegn Minister.
The People's Republic of New Sans

Occ: Thanks, and for only having one post in the thread TCU can sure rile people up. :p

Official Republic Response

Having reviewed what information about this potential conflict we see that so far it seems to be more of a who will fire first situation, and as of this moment our nation deems it in it's best interest to not involve itself in this matter.

However our nation would like to know why the nation of Flightopia is even bothering with this seeing their disregard for the people of their own and other nations. Seeing how you and we quote in regards to the nation of Setian-Sebeceans, "If your nation attempts to attack my nation I will launch ALL of my nukes." You wish to stop genocide, but at the moment someone interferes with you believe is right you move straight to what your nation says it is trying to stop. The hypocrisy does not help your cause in our eyes.

Donald Giert, Foriegn Minister.
The People's Republic of New Sans


The threat of nukes is tatical ones and only against military targets.

The threat of nukes is tatical ones and only against military targets.

Republic Response

Funny because the part after that quote goes something like, "so in the end you and I would both be completely destoryed" We hardly think that destroying a nations military targets with tactical nukes completely destroys it. We really do not see how violence against The Conservative Union or Setian-Sebeceans will help in stoping frivolous deaths. Perhaps it would make more sense to ask The Conservative Union to instead of wantonly killing it's citizens deport them to nations willing to take them, thus removing the problem for The Conservatie Union and allowing the deporties the chance for a new life, not having to deal with potential radioactive craters near their homes.

Donald Giert, Foriegn Minister.
The People's Republic of New Sans