NationStates Jolt Archive


Dissident Purge: 10,000's killed by government forces

The Conservative Union
27-08-2005, 03:30
The time of reckoning is upon us. The Empire that arose from the former Dominion has taken a path of ruthlessness and militarism. Emperor Justisius has all but destroyed parliment and the senate, which now remain solely cerimonial. Now the great army of the Empire is being deployed into the country to round up communists, dissidents, and criminals of all stripe.

Through bloody purges and ruthless policies to maintian obidience, the Conservative Union will rise to be a great power of the world. Let our enemies step forth and speak.
The Silver Sky
27-08-2005, 03:55
The Silver Sky condemns these actions!
Jenrak
27-08-2005, 03:58
I find your actions to be naive and foolish. When you have had murdered thousands of people, you could have easily placed them under slavery to construct whatever poses you need to have. While although we ourselves enjoy terror and chaos, we do not enjoy actions that do not have much thought placed into them.
-Arcarum Dreskisk
Avertide
27-08-2005, 04:03
Not to mention having to deal with all the waste and expense of all those bodies. And not even turning a profit....
Jenrak
27-08-2005, 04:04
Not to mention having to deal with all the waste and expense of all those bodies. And not even turning a profit....

I agree.
Flightopia
27-08-2005, 05:27
Flightopia condems this most terrible act of genocide, if you do not appologize within 48 hours we WILL declare war and ask our allies to join us, but, again not before we know if you will appologize for the sick animals that your are.

Conrad Hondlinton

-Flightopian Secratery of State
Nebarri_Prime
27-08-2005, 05:37
an appologe means nothing to Nebarri Prime for an appologe can be as easy to lie about as anything. Nebarri will not stand for this. alow Nebarri forces to make sure the you have stoped these acts after an appologe is made or we will force them into your nation. you have only 24 hours to appologize or it is war.
Flightopia
27-08-2005, 05:38
To side with Prime the deadline is now 24 hours.
Mondoth
27-08-2005, 06:48
Mondoth condemns these purges and has dispatched a taskforce to monitor the situation, Until such time as shots are fired from either side, the Modnothian fleet is to be considered a neutral observer, failure to recognize this status will result in swift and decisive retaliation.
Rotovia-
27-08-2005, 06:57
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OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE
MINISTRY FOR NATIONAL DEFENCE

The most extreme condemnation is issued against The Conservatice Union and stern warning the international community will not take kidnly to your actions.
Setian-Sebeceans
27-08-2005, 07:16
OFFICIAL RESPONSE FROM THE SECOND HOLY COALITION OF THE SEBECEAN DEMOCRATIC IMPERIUM

The Three Absolutes, the Autogod, and the Elect all support your actions, we believe strongly in the sovreignty of independant nations. We will, if required, send a Command and Control Carrier to your orbit to protect your nation against those who try dictate the laws of a sovreign country.
Flightopia
27-08-2005, 07:44
OFFICIAL RESPONSE FROM THE SECOND HOLY COALITION OF THE SEBECEAN DEMOCRATIC IMPERIUM

The Three Absolutes, the Autogod, and the Elect all support your actions, we believe strongly in the sovreignty of independant nations. We will, if required, send a Command and Control Carrier to your orbit to protect your nation against those who try dictate the laws of a sovreign country.

OCC: Are you FT.

IC: Are you threatining to attack my nation after we try and stop genocide? What kind of nation would let 10,000 civilans be slaughtered?
Setian-Sebeceans
27-08-2005, 07:59
OCC: Are you FT.

IC: Are you threatining to attack my nation after we try and stop genocide? What kind of nation would let 10,000 civilans be slaughtered?


We will destroy worlds for the freedom of one government...
Credonia
27-08-2005, 08:12
Official Statement by the Credonian Secretary of State Lauren R. Smith

Credonia strongly condemns the mass murder of innocent men, women, and children that your nation consideres dissidents. It is every human's right to be able to protest what they believe to be wrong, no government, no person has the right to trample upon or oppress those people for standing up and fighting for what they believe in. While Credonia does not condone this act, we will not make any further moves at this time, however, it will behove your nation's government to put an end to the mass murder of these innocent people or further actions will be taken against you by the United States of Credonia and her allies. You have been warned.


Signed,

Lauren R. Smith
Secretary of State
Department of State
United States of Credonia
Russia an East Europe
27-08-2005, 08:14
The United Socialist States of Russia an East Europe finds these reports "disgusting", and we shall stop all economical trade to the "The Conservative Union". But we will not under take militery action against The Conservative Union.
Aleksander Alexivich-Dictator of The United Socialist States of Russia an East Europe
Flightopia
27-08-2005, 08:33
OOC: he is FT but enless The Conservative Union is FT i will ignore any FT nation, if The Conservative Union is FT i will use my FT nation stats

OCC: Uh, ya I aggre, if the aggressor is FT I will use my FT stats as well.
Arabanistan
27-08-2005, 15:41
(OOC)

After Im done with my War, I may join into this brewing conflict.

Time will tell.
SkyCapt
27-08-2005, 15:55
OOC: I'd advise against that, because you'll need to rebuild your forces, economy, and cities, and joining one war after the other just seems... Yeah. I figured that out a few hours ago.. :p
edit: Oh, and your war may take a few days. Although the Algeristan-Leafanistan war lasted a day... (that war was decided to have never happened though, since everyone went n00kish)

IC:
Although SkyCapt strongly disagrees with these recent acts, calls to war for this seems a little... Too fanatical. Don't get me wrong, this is an abhorrent act, but don't get too hasty. The recent Algeristan war was a big loss to everyone, and FishCaks nearly was crushed...
Setian-Sebeceans
27-08-2005, 17:24
OCC: Uh, ya I aggre, if the aggressor is FT I will use my FT stats as well.


Your gonna have quiet the run for your money...
Morvonia
27-08-2005, 17:37
The morvonian high command will watch closly the situation but we have just finished a war in Very Small Island and will not mobilize so soon.






Alex Tselis
Prime Minister
Flightopia
27-08-2005, 23:13
I hope that the threat of war with a few large nations will persuade the CU to issue an appoligy and stop thier genocide. I don't want to invade a nation, but if these actions don't cease I will have no choice.
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 00:14
A few large nations, heh, you guys are not that big... dont get to ahead of yourself...
Teh Hax
28-08-2005, 00:15
The Armed Republic of Teh Hax condemns both sides for their actions. First of all genocide is wrong and there really aren't any pros in murdering your own people. Second of all, going to war because of genocide is almost as stupid as genocide itself. Why would you want to spill more blood when enough blood has already been spilled?
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 00:37
I hope that the threat of war with a few large nations will persuade the CU to issue an appoligy and stop thier genocide. I don't want to invade a nation, but if these actions don't cease I will have no choice.

OCC: What I ment is large, in comparason to him, also, a few nations to me means two or three, so two or three nations that are larger then him, hopefully my allies will support me on this. As I said before I DON'T want to go to war but as a human being with feelings I can't allow this to go on without retibutions. Sorry if I did not make my point clearer before hand.
Coreys Land
28-08-2005, 01:05
Coreys Land opposses the actions takin by TCU.
Coreys Land wishes to Aid Flightopia & Nebarri_Prime if any action is takin against there side.
If the murders continue then CL will have no choice but to invade TCU.
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 01:39
6 hours and 21 minutes RL time till the deadline is up and I mobleize my forces. The deadline is officaly 0700 GMT.
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 03:11
4 hours and 50 minutes in-counting till deadline.
Nebarri_Prime
28-08-2005, 03:23
OOC: who should make the war thread if he doesn't meat our demands? or should we keep it on here
Red Tide2
28-08-2005, 03:29
OOC: I have good news, I happen to know that Conservative Union IS NOT a FT nation. Therefore you have every right to ignore Setian-Sebeceans. Thank you for your time
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 03:35
OOC: I have good news, I happen to know that Conservative Union IS NOT a FT nation. Therefore you have every right to ignore Setian-Sebeceans. Thank you for your time


Thank you for the intel.

OCC: I have to say he threw off a kinda rude vibe, I think it's just me though. Also, I will make a war thread at 0700 if he dosen't comply.
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 03:51
OOC: I have good news, I happen to know that Conservative Union IS NOT a FT nation. Therefore you have every right to ignore Setian-Sebeceans. Thank you for your time

OOC: Actually, ignoring me would be quiet n00bish, seeing that even though i like FT alot more it does not prevent me from using MT tech. But i do have some good news, i just saved a bunch of money by switching to geico.... sorry

IC: In response to the mobilization efforts of the hostile parties, it has been decided by the Elect (Elected Leaders of Congress) that a massive effort to protect TCU be initiated. 20 Heavy Carrier Battlegroups, 40 Force Extention Amp Assault Ship Battlegroups, and 40 SLBM Submarine Patrols are being moved into defensive positions around TCU shores.

The 1st Mobile Infantry Strike Force, 2nd Helo Attack and Support Corps, 5th Independant Maneuver War Unit, 32nd Marine Assault Corps, and 89th Citizen Militia are being moved to secure the land claims of TCU. The 3rd, 10th, and 40th Combat Air Wings, the 78th Stealth Bomber Force, and the 100th UCAV Strike Wing are currently patrolling TCU airspace and will shoot down any hostile aircraft within 10 miles of TCU boarders. Sebecean Air Forces are being supported by many "Star" Formation SAM Sites.

Along with a few other Special Operations Groups the total Sebecean Human presence in TCU is 16,790,342. About 20 million more are on standby orders.

The S.H.C.S.D.I. is now at Military Action Condition 1(Black: Total War- Take no prisoners, execute all hostile personnel)
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 04:08
I ask the internation community to stand behind Flightopia and her allies to stop the awful event in TCU, the deadline of 0700 still stands, if Setian-Sebeceans attempts to preemptively strike Flightopia or any of her allies we will deploy our considerable nuclear arsenel on a self-defenceive basis only. Don't think that you look noble defending the ungodly leaders of TCU, you look like a fool. My nation is in full lockdown, all air traffic and ship has been grounded, anmy aircraft or ship witihn a 30 NM radius of my nation will be engaged. CAP are active. We are at Defcon 2 on all boards.

OCC: It p***** me off that a huge nation can push arround smaller nations trying to do what is right, I only hope others see the error in your ways.
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 04:44
I ask the internation community to stand behind Flightopia and her allies to stop the awful event in TCU, the deadline of 0700 still stands, if Setian-Sebeceans attempts to preemptively strike Flightopia or any of her allies we will deploy our considerable nuclear arsenel on a self-defenceive basis only. Don't think that you look noble defending the ungodly leaders of TCU, you look like a fool. My nation is in full lockdown, all air traffic and ship has been grounded, anmy aircraft or ship witihn a 30 NM radius of my nation will be engaged. CAP are active. We are at Defcon 2 on all boards.

OCC: It p***** me off that a huge nation can push arround smaller nations trying to do what is right, I only hope others see the error in your ways.

OOC: It pisses me off to see people trying to force the idea of a world without boarders on sovreign nations. You must also understand that right and wrong are a point of view, from ours it is right... so back down.

IC: The Sebecean Imperial Monarchy has issued a deadline for all hostile forces to end their hostilities against TCU by 0630 Flightopian Standard Time, if you do not withdraw by the said time, as massive assault will be taken against the Flightopian Homeland.
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 04:50
OFFICAL MESSAGE FROM Hunter Alldredge, PRESIDENT OF FLIGHTOPIA:

Why are you going to attack us with NO JUST CAUSE, is TCU AN ALLY?? IF SO WHERE ARE THE DOCUMENTS TO SUPPORT THAT, BECUASE UNLESS THEY ARE IN A FORMAL TRETY THAT IS ALREADY ACTIVE BY ATTACKING ME YOU HAVE NOT ONLY ATTACKED A SOVGERN NATION WITH NO JUST CAUSE BUT YOU WILL HAVE A SHITSTORM! IS THAT CLEAR?
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 05:05
If your nation attempts to attack my nation I will launch ALL of my nukes, there is no MT can allow you to get them all, so in the end you and I would both be compleately destoryed (You would launch your nukes, MAD), but I would be remembered as someone who was defending thier nation at all costs, you would be rememberd as someone who made idiotic decisions the lead to the destruction of an inncoent country, his own, and millions of others in other countries due to radiation poisioning. So, is that how you wan't history to be written, or you can stand down all your forces. The choice is yours.
Tannenmille
28-08-2005, 05:09
If your nation attempts to attack my nation I will launch ALL of my nukes, there is no MT can allow you to get them all, so in the end you and I would both be compleately destoryed (You would launch your nukes, MAD), but I would be remembered as someone who was defending thier nation at all costs, you would be rememberd as someone who made idiotic decisions the lead to the destruction of an inncoent country, his own, and millions of others in other countries due to radiation poisioning. So, is that how you wan't history to be written, or you can stand down all your forces. The choice is yours.

OOC: No, you would be remembered as the guy who launched nukes because someone actually tried to defend someone you were trying to attack, regardless of moral right / wrong, and he would be remembered hopefully for something other than this. He's as "innocent" as you are in this, and you would as well be killing millions of his civilians.
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 05:13
No, I am trying to only remove an man from power who is slaughtering his own people, and he is large nation trying to push me arround, If he attacks the only way I can defend myself against a nation of that size is nukes. I hate the idea, but if he tries to invade, that is what will happen, I DON'T WANT IT TOO, but that is the situation. I would normally try the diplomatic option with genocide, but with 10,000 that option died before it lived.
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 05:17
Mutually Assured Destruction does not threaten us, we have and advanced SDI and Anti-Bomber/Submarine/ICBM shield. Yes a few of your nuclear weapons may pass our shield, but they will quickly face a heavy barrage of AA fire. Your use of nukes in this manner is highly noobish and your thoughts of me striking you with nukes is a incorrect, even though we have a surplus of nukes (more than enough for one for each of your citizens) we prefer to attack using our other technology such as a Oversky Offensive Orbital Strike Platforms.

Remember that even if you manage to destroy half of my population and nation, you would have to do with the Retribution System which will target all of your population centers and remove them by Conventional, Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological means.
Darkana
28-08-2005, 05:20
but I would be remembered as someone who was defending thier nation at all costs, you would be rememberd as someone who made idiotic decisions the lead to the destruction of an inncoent country, his own, and millions of others in other countries due to radiation poisioning. So, is that how you wan't history to be written, or you can stand down all your forces. The choice is yours.

You will also find your country to be an inhospitable wasteland, nearly all your population will be wiped out, your economy will collapse, your military will be scattered, and your government will be non-existent. For your own sake, you should find a better solution.

-The Dictator of Darkana
Zackaroth
28-08-2005, 05:21
OOC:Setian-Sebeceans. I think your new here but understand. Its not noobish for anyone to iningore because your FT. This is freeform board. Nothing says a MT nation has to listen to you. Personally id like it with no FT so MT could go smoothly. Just because you like doesnt mean everyone else has to. If CU is MT and others dont want FT im sorry but theres no FT allowed.
The Silver Sky
28-08-2005, 05:23
OOC: Does anyone even know how much people TCU has killed, I stopped counting at 500,000...It's porbably over 1 million by now...
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 05:23
OOC:Setian-Sebeceans. I think your new here but understand. Its not noobish for anyone to iningore because your FT. This is freeform board. Nothing says a MT nation has to listen to you. Personally id like it with no FT so MT could go smoothly. Just because you like doesnt mean everyone else has to. If CU is MT and others dont want FT im sorry but theres no FT allowed.

It doesnt matter, and yes it is noobish when i am fighting this in a MT manner, and ignoring me would be highly noobish, along with not reading the update material...
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 05:24
OCC: Ok, this is MT, and you threatten me with orbital deffence platfrom as tech that can take out almost all of my nukes, show me any RL MT that is close to that? No, it is not "noobish" to use nukes against an nation that is about 9 and 1/3 times our size? You threatten to attack me when we have done nothing "yet".
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 05:25
OOC: Does anyone even know how much people TCU has killed, I stopped counting at 500,000...It's porbably over 1 million by now...

Ah, My point again why we have to stop the slaughter.
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 05:28
OCC: Ok, this is MT, and you threatten me with orbital deffence platfrom as tech that can take out almost all of my nukes, show me any RL MT that is close to that? No, it is not "noobish" to use nukes against an nation that is about 9 and 1/3 times our size? You threatten to attack me when we have done nothing "yet".

Orbital offensive platforms are possible, understand that if we can put up communications and scientific sats, that it is not that hard to put up a slightly larger platform that has special missiles designed for entry into the atmosphere, and has a full spectrum laser to destroy ICBMs. The "Star Wars" idea was and is possible, just as is the Oversky.

Besides my definition of MT is anything that is current technology or can be made using current technology or any tech that is about 5 years into the future...
Zackaroth
28-08-2005, 05:31
OOC: This is still consider FT. Most pre Ft things that are accpected are EARTH based things. Such as tanks or planes,etc. Yes it may be noobish inyour eyes but in others it may be a smart descion so that way we dont have an OCC arguement fest.
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 05:35
OOC: This is still consider FT. Most pre Ft things that are accpected are EARTH based things. Such as tanks or planes,etc. Yes it may be noobish inyour eyes but in others it may be a smart descion so that way we dont have an OCC arguement fest.

OOC: Two questions, One: Can we put sats and space stations into orbit (RL USA)? And if you answered yes to that (your an idiot if you say no) How hard would it be to mount a missile or cluster of missiles, that could re-enter the atmosphere, on it?
Galloism
28-08-2005, 05:39
OOC: Two questions, One: Can we put sats and space stations into orbit (RL USA)? And if you answered yes to that (your an idiot if you say no) How hard would it be to mount a missile or cluster of missiles, that could re-enter the atmosphere, on it?

OOC: Well your missiles would have to withstand re-entry, which would take alot of extra materials on it. In addition, everyone would see it come for an hour or two before it actually hit ground. It's not viable because so much of the weight would be taken up with thermal plating, armor, and guidance devices (along with a small supply of fuel), that the amount of room for explosives would be very low, and the cost very high.
The Silver Sky
28-08-2005, 05:41
OOC: Two questions, One: Can we put sats and space stations into orbit (RL USA)? And if you answered yes to that (your an idiot if you say no) How hard would it be to mount a missile or cluster of missiles, that could re-enter the atmosphere, on it?
OOC: It doesn't matter what you think, orbital strike platforms/laser platforms are considered PMT-FT by most of NS, besides, a ICBM can do it quicker.
Zackaroth
28-08-2005, 05:46
OOC: You fail you realise by the time the missles were lanched the target would have already been hit by the nuke or missle.
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 05:57
The deadline is fast approaching, will you stad down and let my allies and I do what we have to do?
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 06:08
OOC: Your missing one factor, gravity... if a missile that has proper shielding (modern technology can make it cheaper and lighter than that of the space shuttle's shield) and is using the same type of ICBM engine, it will infact hit in a few minutes if not less (if directly above target). It would be hard to shoot down due to its entering speed. And if it was a multi warhead, it could remove most of your largest cities before you knew we launched.
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 06:09
The deadline is fast approaching, will you stad down and let my allies and I do what we have to do?

No we will not. Be warned you may soon be under the boot of the Sebecean Trooper.
The Silver Sky
28-08-2005, 06:11
OOC: Your missing one factor, gravity... if a missile that has proper shielding (modern technology can make it cheaper and lighter than that of the space shuttle's shield) and is using the same type of ICBM engine, it will infact hit in a few minutes if not less (if directly above target). It would be hard to shoot down due to its entering speed. And if it was a multi warhead, it could remove most of your largest cities before you knew we launched.
OOC: If you are directly above the target and the missile comes straight down it's very easy to track and hit with a missile, and any self respecting nation would track all satellites above their nation making it easy to identify the large burst of heat of the falling warhead.
Zackaroth
28-08-2005, 06:13
OOC: Your missing one factor, gravity... if a missile that has proper shielding (modern technology can make it cheaper and lighter than that of the space shuttle's shield) and is using the same type of ICBM engine, it will infact hit in a few minutes if not less (if directly above target). It would be hard to shoot down due to its entering speed. And if it was a multi warhead, it could remove most of your largest cities before you knew we launched.
OOC: This is why it is not MT. This is an MT thread. FT is not welcomed or wanted. We dont want OMG UBER NUKE RAINS DOWN DEATH FROM THE SKIES! Most of these nations cannot get into space that is why you are FT.
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 06:14
OOC: If you are directly above the target and the missile comes straight down it's very easy to track and hit with a missile, and any self respecting nation would track all satellites above their nation making it easy to identify the large burst of heat of the falling warhead.

True, and it is possible to shoot a orbital warhead down, but the speed of the warhead would make it like trying to shoot down a high speed bullet with a arrow. But the major goal of the Oversky is not to be cheap or efficent, but to cause fear and ensure an almost certian nuclear superiority.
The Silver Sky
28-08-2005, 06:16
True, and it is possible to shoot a orbital warhead down, but the speed of the warhead would make it like trying to shoot down a high speed bullet with a arrow. But the major goal of the Oversky is not to be cheap or efficent, but to cause fear and ensure an almost certian nuclear superiority.
OOC: Either way it's still PMT-FT and ignored by me.
Galloism
28-08-2005, 06:17
OOC: Your missing one factor, gravity... if a missile that has proper shielding (modern technology can make it cheaper and lighter than that of the space shuttle's shield) and is using the same type of ICBM engine, it will infact hit in a few minutes if not less (if directly above target). It would be hard to shoot down due to its entering speed. And if it was a multi warhead, it could remove most of your largest cities before you knew we launched.

(OOC)

Except a missile cant shoot straight down. Even taking a very liberal estimate of a free falling object (at 500mph), it would still take over an hour to reach its target going straight down. Plus, you have high altitude winds that would cause a free falling object going straight down to pitch and yaw on its axis, causing it to miss its target completely.

It would have to come in at an angle, if only to be stable and strike its target with accuracy.

(This leaves the heat shielding and such out)
Nebarri_Prime
28-08-2005, 06:17
OOC: Either way it's still PMT-FT and ignored by me.

Ditto
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 06:17
My god, we are so uninformed... the reason why is because of cost and government bureaucracy, we have the technology... its just because of some government corruption.
Zackaroth
28-08-2005, 06:18
OOC: Either way it's still PMT-FT and ignored by me.


Same here.
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 06:22
(OOC)

Except a missile cant shoot straight down. Even taking a very liberal estimate of a free falling object (at 500mph), it would still take over an hour to reach its target going straight down. Plus, you have high altitude winds that would cause a free falling object going straight down to pitch and yaw on its axis, causing it to miss its target completely.

It would have to come in at an angle, if only to be stable and strike its target with accuracy.

(This leaves the heat shielding and such out)

But also, it is possible to account for such events, but you do not need to hit a populated area to cause damage, just aslong as it can disrupt power, computers, machines, and communications with EMP.
Galloism
28-08-2005, 06:24
But also, it is possible to account for such events, but you do not need to hit a populated area to cause damage, just aslong as it can disrupt power, computers, machines, and communications with EMP.

OOC: I can't argue with that, but winds would probably be sufficient to toss it at least 100 miles, probably farther, and they are mostly unpredictable. An EMP weapon would probably still work (since it has a wide coverage area), but an incendiary bomb or even a nuke could miss its target entirely.
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 06:27
IC: In an act of war, the Coalitionist forces fired 5 SLCMs from 'Boomers' off the Flightopian shores. They were loaded with a chemically strengthened Smallpox, and were sent to the major cities of Flightopia. The missiles are designed to fly under the radar and air burst at their targets.
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 06:29
Ditto

OCC: At 0700 FST we will invade TCU, and I propose Setian-Sebeceans be ignored.
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 06:31
OCC: At 0700 FST we will invade TCU, and I propose Setian-Sebeceans be ignored.

On what charges... hell ill put the Oversky in the closet and you have nothing to fear from it...
Mondoth
28-08-2005, 06:32
setian, Have you ever taken a physics class?

Sure you could launch the missile straight down, but it would take tremendous thrust because it would have to overcome the momentum that's keeping it in orbit, and if you wanted to have it go faster than a few hundred miles an hour(not sure what terminal velocity would be because weight and drag are highly variable) then you'd need even MORE fuel to continue acceleration after terminal velocity is hit, and the amount of fuel you'd need to maintain that much thrust long enough (even just long enough to break orbit) would be pretty hard to get into orbit OR to hide (at most you could only have one missile per platform anyway at current lift capacities), I don't know any nation that would accept a nuclear platfrom belonging to another country hanging over there nation, so you'd have to face Satkiller missiles. so, Yes its technically possible in MT but it would cost an ungodly amount of money for dubious benefit (Yay, we get to launch a single, relatively slow moving missile at an enemy with plenty of chances to defend agaisnt it!)
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 06:35
setian, Have yiu ever taken a physics class?

Have you ever taken a spelling class?
Galloism
28-08-2005, 06:38
Have you ever taken a spelling class?

OOC: Despite that horrible butchering of the English language (at least I THINK that was English), he is correct, you know.
Mondoth
28-08-2005, 06:39
oh no, I missspelled a SINGLE WORD! It's called a typo! I even fixed it before you finished typing your DEVASTATING reply

You on the other hand missed an entire branch of physics, the one science that directly pertains to your recent arguments, and you have yet to fix the problem.
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 06:39
OOC: Despite that horrible butchering of the English language (at least I THINK that was English), he is correct, you know.

OOC: He's right, but he did admit it was possible... even more if you consider a nation of my age and economic power.
Galloism
28-08-2005, 06:41
OOC: He's right, but he did admit it was possible... even more if you consider a nation of my age and economic power.

OOC: The point is: it is not cost effective. It makes no sense. It has no place in this little conflict. That is all.
Nebarri_Prime
28-08-2005, 06:41
Setian-Sebeceans attack from orbit are ignored buy me for having what could easily be considered PMT (and is considered PMT by me) in a MT RP

any other acts inside of my idea of MT will be alowed
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 06:42
OOC: The point is: it is not cost effective. It makes no sense. It has no place in this little conflict. That is all.

OOC: As I said it was not made for cost efficency, it is for fear... but since everyone is bitching about it, i have decided to remove it from this conflict.
Galloism
28-08-2005, 06:43
OOC: As I said it was not made for cost efficency, it is for fear... but since everyone is bitching about it, i have decided to remove it from this conflict.

OOC: Ok, I'm going back to just watching then. I wasn't even in this war. I just wanted to point out the problems with space based projectile weaponry.
Nebarri_Prime
28-08-2005, 06:46
Wake up, i didnt attack him from orbit, that weapon has been removed because of the bitching...

if you look i have edited my post
Mondoth
28-08-2005, 06:47
I said it was conceivable that you could put such a system in orbit and that it would work, I never said that the chances of it hitting even within EMP range of its intended target with out being intercepted (or destroyed while still in orbit) even existed. Even given your size, putting enough of these in orbit to overwhelm a nation defenses enough that even one missile could get through would leave you without enough money to buy even one 'Heavy Carrier BattleGroup' let alone twenty.
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 06:50
I said it was conceivable that you could put such a system in orbit and that it would work, I never said that the chances of it hitting even within EMP range of its intended target with out being intercepted (or destroyed while still in orbit) even existed. Even given your size, putting enough of these in orbit to overwhelm a nation defenses enough that even one missile could get through would leave you without enough money to buy even one 'Heavy Carrier BattleGroup' let alone twenty.

GODDAMN PEOPLE, READ, I said I was now not going to use it.
Nebarri_Prime
28-08-2005, 06:52
we know, "we" are just informing you.
National Commonwealth
28-08-2005, 06:54
(ooc)

Is this a war yet? I've got bet's down (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440417) and I want wager more, if it's on...meh
Nebarri_Prime
28-08-2005, 06:56
OOC: war will start at 7 AM GMT or 1 AM here by my clock 6 minutes
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 06:58
NOTE TO FLIGHTOPIA: You have been attack.
National Commonwealth
28-08-2005, 07:00
OOC: war will start at 7 AM GMT or 1 AM here by my clock 6 minutes

ooc: thanks, got it http://assets.jolt.co.uk/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif
Piglatnia
28-08-2005, 07:06
i state to all that while we do not like the idea of pointless slaughter it is also pointless to invade the slaughterers you will just cause more death he obviously want a war don't give it to him.
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 07:08
IC: In an act of war, the Coalitionist forces fired 5 SLCMs from 'Boomers' off the Flightopian shores. They were loaded with a chemically strengthened Smallpox, and were sent to the major cities of Flightopia. The missiles are designed to fly under the radar and air burst at their targets.

OCC: What collilition? Second, becuause of you turning this thread into a tech disscussion and that you before tried to exploit the lines between FT and MT and as well just being a jurk, I allong with prime are ignoring your IC announcemnets. Insed of comming in and pushing me arround you could have tried a diplomatic solution, or not conodne my invasion. NOT TRYING TO KILL OFF MY ISLAND POPULATION WITH F******* SMALLPOX. DEAR GOD, I LEAVE FOR 2 SECONDS AND HIDDEN WITHIN 2 PAGES OF TECH JABBER IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT YOU HAVE DECIDED TO TRY AND KILL OFF MY NATION WHEN DID NOTHING TO YOUR OR ANYONE ELSE. GOD, JUST STOP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND LET ME AND MY ALLIES STOP GENOCIDE. I'M NOT TRING TO GODMOD AND SAY YOUR MISSILES g3t sh0t dwn by my mighty army, but BECUASE YOU ARE JUST ACTING LIKE A JERK I'M JUST TOO PISSED OFF TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, SORRY.
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 07:09
ALSO 54 minutes till I start the war thread.
Nebarri_Prime
28-08-2005, 07:11
OCC: What collilition? Second, becuause of you turning this thread into a tech disscussion and that you before tried to exploit the lines between FT and MT and as well just being a jurk, I allong with prime are ignoring your IC announcemnets. Insed of comming in and pushing me arround you could have tried a diplomatic solution, or not conodne my invasion. NOT TRYING TO KILL OFF MY ISLAND POPULATION WITH F******* SMALLPOX. DEAR GOD, I LEAVE FOR 2 SECONDS AND HIDDEN WITHIN 2 PAGES OF TECH JABBER IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT YOU HAVE DECIDED TO TRY AND KILL OFF MY NATION WHEN DID NOTHING TO YOUR OR ANYONE ELSE. GOD, JUST STOP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND LET ME AND MY ALLIES STOP GENOCIDE. I'M NOT TRING TO GODMOD AND SAY YOUR MISSILES g3t sh0t dwn by my mighty army, but BECUASE YOU ARE JUST ACTING LIKE A JERK I'M JUST TOO PISSED OFF TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, SORRY.

he did pull the statment back later...
Nebarri_Prime
28-08-2005, 07:11
ALSO 54 minutes till I start the war thread.

I though you said 0700 GMT? that would make it now
Piglatnia
28-08-2005, 07:12
i plead once again to call off the war if not i will have to take the side of the defender when and if he asks for help
Nebarri_Prime
28-08-2005, 07:16
i plead once again to call off the war if not i will have to take the side of the defender when and if he asks for help

I do not wish war with the small nation of Pigatnia, and if we do not go to war how many lives will be lost then?


Emperor Keller
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 07:20
OCC: What collilition? Second, becuause of you turning this thread into a tech disscussion and that you before tried to exploit the lines between FT and MT and as well just being a jurk, I allong with prime are ignoring your IC announcemnets. Insed of comming in and pushing me arround you could have tried a diplomatic solution, or not conodne my invasion. NOT TRYING TO KILL OFF MY ISLAND POPULATION WITH F******* SMALLPOX. DEAR GOD, I LEAVE FOR 2 SECONDS AND HIDDEN WITHIN 2 PAGES OF TECH JABBER IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT YOU HAVE DECIDED TO TRY AND KILL OFF MY NATION WHEN DID NOTHING TO YOUR OR ANYONE ELSE. GOD, JUST STOP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND LET ME AND MY ALLIES STOP GENOCIDE. I'M NOT TRING TO GODMOD AND SAY YOUR MISSILES g3t sh0t dwn by my mighty army, but BECUASE YOU ARE JUST ACTING LIKE A JERK I'M JUST TOO PISSED OFF TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, SORRY.


You are aware that TCU has not replied once, which technically means your troops will be invading nothing. But I understand how things work now, if someone commits genocide, anyone who stands to defend his actions is ignored. So until you grow up and see that the world is not just good and bad, I officially ignore Flightopia.
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 07:27
I though you said 0700 GMT? that would make it now
OCC: No on the game clock.
Piglatnia
28-08-2005, 07:27
war is not the only action at least try to deal with the isue firstly then maybe just help an uprising that is against the slaughter in the country itself. then if nothing comes of that then go to war.
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 07:28
And its the Coalition of Sebecean States
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 07:37
From the numbers I've heard that have been killed, dealing has long ceased to be an option.
Nebarri_Prime
28-08-2005, 08:13
are you going to start it or not?
Mondoth
28-08-2005, 08:19
OCC: What collilition? Second, becuause of you turning this thread into a tech disscussion and that you before tried to exploit the lines between FT and MT and as well just being a jurk, I allong with prime are ignoring your IC announcemnets. Insed of comming in and pushing me arround you could have tried a diplomatic solution, or not conodne my invasion. NOT TRYING TO KILL OFF MY ISLAND POPULATION WITH F******* SMALLPOX. DEAR GOD, I LEAVE FOR 2 SECONDS AND HIDDEN WITHIN 2 PAGES OF TECH JABBER IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT YOU HAVE DECIDED TO TRY AND KILL OFF MY NATION WHEN DID NOTHING TO YOUR OR ANYONE ELSE. GOD, JUST STOP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND LET ME AND MY ALLIES STOP GENOCIDE. I'M NOT TRING TO GODMOD AND SAY YOUR MISSILES g3t sh0t dwn by my mighty army, but BECUASE YOU ARE JUST ACTING LIKE A JERK I'M JUST TOO PISSED OFF TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, SORRY.

calm down man, its just a game, no need for all those misspellings (and I thought I couldn't type)
Green Sun
28-08-2005, 08:39
OOC: Please, everyone, please, let's calm down and wait. TCU could just be BSing us, you know, since he hasn't posted. Let's wait until he replies again before slitting each other's throats.
North Mack
28-08-2005, 13:57
I strongly discorage ANYONE Attacking flightopia. Flightopia is a member of the Commonwealth of Independant Nations. This alliance of over 30 member nations will declare ANY and ALL nations that attack members of the CIN. any nation to attack Flightopia will be immediatly at war with every single member of the CIN.

North Mack had a very bloody history, and does not wish to see its own allies have the same. Don't attack Flightopia. Stop the violence please.
Setian-Sebeceans
28-08-2005, 17:58
I strongly discorage ANYONE Attacking flightopia. Flightopia is a member of the Commonwealth of Independant Nations. This alliance of over 30 member nations will declare ANY and ALL nations that attack members of the CIN. any nation to attack Flightopia will be immediatly at war with every single member of the CIN.

North Mack had a very bloody history, and does not wish to see its own allies have the same. Don't attack Flightopia. Stop the violence please.

We will not yeild to the wishes of an inferior people.
Nebarri_Prime
28-08-2005, 20:08
for the ones that need help finding the war thread

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440660
Flightopia
28-08-2005, 20:31
We will not yeild to the wishes of an inferior people.

IC: And you say we are inferoir as we try for a noble cause, and you sit there calling us inferior, it is you who is inferior.
Nebarri_Prime
28-08-2005, 20:45
OOC: if i remmember corctly Sebeceans think they are suppirior to all other life forms...

sorry for the bad spelling
Setian-Sebeceans
29-08-2005, 00:20
OOC: if i remmember corctly Sebeceans think they are suppirior to all other life forms...

sorry for the bad spelling

Thank you for that, my eyes are bleeding...
Flightopia
29-08-2005, 06:10
Thank you for that, my eyes are bleeding...

OCC: A Very Nice A*hole Like Comment from Setian-Sebeceans.
Setian-Sebeceans
29-08-2005, 06:14
OCC: A Very Nice A*hole Like Comment from Setian-Sebeceans.

Why thank you... I love you too...