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Yep
Thsoe nuke cleanup packages cost $170 million each, i aint paying that much.

OOC: This calculator is right for ANY yield from 1MT to 500GT. (Interestingly, plug in 500GT into the calculator. Haha.)

Umm....its not exactly...right.....I don't see match ups for larger yield weapons.

I have a shitload of those, updated and strapped to a ballistic missile. I want a one million megaton nuke, see what it does in the nuclear fallout calculator, anyone within three thousand miles gets 3rd degree burns !

OOC: Btw, all the calculations on this calculator are in kilometers. 10 kilometers = 6 miles.

Yep
Thsoe nuke cleanup packages cost $170 million each, i aint paying that much.

OOC: So much for listening to Arabanistan and waiting until Sunday morning to obliterate his nation. I'll shovel the bioshit into the Sun again, I suppose.

Just to piss him off, i suggest we turn the barren wasteland into the first homosexual country..

When the cleanup is done, i will create a giant pig-farm in my zone.

OOC: My Bora-class craft need to fight with II still lol!

Artists renditon of arabanistan tommorow



Here (http://recollectionbooks.com/bleed/images/BB/fireball.jpg)

NO clouds ot small scale it up a bit thats only a 50MT bomb.

...Encrypting...
...2VX Encryption Complete...

Official Imperial Communique:
To: The Parthians
From: Chancellor Licinius

Send you ships away from Armanistan as fast as humanely possible. Three reasons:
1.) Your aiding our enemy
2.) Arbanistan's side was responsible for the attack on Island City
3.) Some crazed general launched an OH MY GOD HY00GE nuke at arbanistan, and you ships wont survive if they stay there.

End Transmission
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The small Borman fleet that was at the scene immediatly sped away from Arbanistan and towards Borman at over 50 MPH. When they got sufficiently far away they would turn around and view the onsluaght.
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"Sir, that nuke will turn Arbanistan into a sheet of glass, much like we did to TLS."

"Well we were fighting against them, our efforts to stop it may fail although they will almost assuredly succeed, but stopping it will be expensive. I see no real reason to try and stop it, all we can really do is watch. And if that crazed nation becomes hostile, do what it did to Arbanistan ten fold."

"Yes sir!"

here is a tsar bomba 200 megaton detonation, so this is more realistic:

Here (http://www.astrosurf.org/lombry/Physique/bombe-fr-essai-gb.jpg)

better :p

Here (http://www.animeonscifi.co.uk/images/nuke.jpg) is a more realistic one

Little side info, the nuke is called "Hein's Fury" It was slapped together in a secret project, it took 8 years to build.

Now all nations who remember me and Arabanistan fighting will remember it was these things.

It started with nuclear arms purchase
Then a standoff between civil rights crimes
Then a religious and demand of war on our people
Refusal to give basic human rights
Isolationism with weapon development planning suspected
Insult on Kjata, our God!
Refusal for peace
Attacking a close friend of kjata Major
Proproganda Class 5
Nuclear threats

here is a tsar bomba 200 megaton detonation, so this is more realistic:

Here (http://www.astrosurf.org/lombry/Physique/bombe-fr-essai-gb.jpg)

Tsar Bomba was 50-57 Megaton:

See http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Russia/TsarBomba.html

OOC got pulled away from computer and the world goes to hell! :p

Willink - I did a post, lost it, and got called away. The short of it is you sunk a cruiser, damaged my carrier, sunk three support ships, a destoryer is burning and will sink, another destroyer is badly damaged.

(OOC: Sorry bout this interuption but, Kjata can you read the Business Incentive post mate?)

OOC
BTW willink you owe me one when we tangle again (and we will since I had not fired upon you) because I could have stuck to the 300km deal.

Gotta go now, I'll check back tomorrow to see how Arabanistan deals with you all destroying his entire nation. :eek:

OOC got pulled away from computer and the world goes to hell! :p

Willink - I did a post, lost it, and got called away. The short of it is you sunk a cruiser, damaged my carrier, sunk three support ships, a destoryer is burning and will sink, another destroyer is badly damaged.

IC our boats still have a conflict. :)

Now Arabanistan i sogne i think the war is over.

Weird I understood that.....but ya I'd think so to.

I say we split it btween me, kjata major spinzania, and borment empire, and anyone else who wants some land, but youll have to clean it up.

(OOC: Is Arabanistan defeated? :confused: )

I say we split it btween me, kjata major spinzania, and borment empire

not sure how you can split a peice of glass....and its gonna be uninhabitable for a long long long time..*grin*

Deja Vu anyone....? :rolleyes: :p

Deja Vu anyone....? :rolleyes: :p


*coughcoughSaharistancoughcough*

(OOC: Is Arabanistan defeated? :confused: )


no, but he is about to get hit by a 200 megaton nuke and like 350 chemical missiles.

OOC: lol....I was afraid that I'd have to go to war with you Wink....'cuz of the CIN regulations....which Hal, Leaf, Mckagan, and I are a part of :P

(OOC: Not all bad then, he just has to tell his people to pull out their sun-cream and umbrellas. Besides isn't he and all members of the Government out in the mountains having a discussion with bin Laden?)

OOC: lol....I was afraid that I'd have to go to war with you Wink....'cuz of the CIN regulations....which Hal, Leaf, Mckagan, and I are a part of :P

Mckagan used nukes first I belive and Willink didn't nuke him Kjata did

Mckagan used nukes first I belive and Willink didn't nuke him Kjata did


Didn't see it, so therefore in our nation it didn't happen.... :rolleyes: ;)

OOC and IC:

Let me get give you tomorrow's forecast for Arabanistan.

A slight chance of rain with a few sprinkles of doom.
Warm blistering temperatures of over two million degrees
Mostly cloudless except maybe a few clouds....(ok 1)
A chance of acid rain is possible.

OOC and IC:

Let me get give you tomorrow's forecast for Arabanistan.

A slight chance of rain with a few sprinkles of doom.
Warm blistering temperatures of over two million degrees
Mostly cloudless except maybe a few clouds....(ok 1)
A chance of acid rain is possible.


Mckagens just pissed off because i can kick his ass in MT

Hehe, I get to advance the Kjata plot line ahead 6 months now. General Hein has been killed and a true monster takes his place. A stronger evil takes the void of a weaker one. :)

I might draw a picture of what Hein's last insult will be to Arabanistan before the earth shattering boom and complete wipe out of every city, town, farm and military center in his nation.

Then the Missile boats will fire 2000 more missiles and turn it into a wasteland.

Mckagens just pissed off because i can kick his ass in MT

OOC: And I can kick all your asses in FT. That doesn't mean anything. Why did the SWC turn on each other?

Mckagens just pissed off because i can kick his ass in MT

Willink, you up for a War Games operation on one on an islands off my coast? might be fun no real casualties? I'll post it tomorow if your up for it?

OOC: Dude, twenty four fuckin hours and this RP doubles in pages. Is Arabanistan that important to launch all the nukes you (probably don't) have?

OOC:Why did the SWC turn on each other?


It was a matter of who attacked who first.

OOC: Dude, twenty four fuckin hours and this RP doubles in pages. Is Arabanistan that important to launch all the nukes you (probably don't) have?

He only launched one nuke...it was just a big one, the rest were chemical and biological I think..:P read the thread.

OOC: You honestly expect me to read it? You know what? This war never happened in my eyes.

OOC: You honestly expect me to read it? You know what? This war never happened in my eyes.

OOC: I'm sure someone will make a wiki

OOC: You honestly expect me to read it? You know what? This war never happened in my eyes.

O.O Never happened my butt! What of the good men of General Hein and General Hein himself. They were KILLED! KILLED! Defending their God! Holy war!

*waves Kjatan flag*

OOC: I'll consider that a seperate incident.

Yeah im up for some war games... i say we all nuke arabanistan now, since hes allready doomed, target practice!

OOC: I'll consider that a seperate incident.

OOC: I'm beginning to agree with ignoring the entire conflict. It was complete stupidity from about page 7 (I use 40 posts / page, so it might be a lot higher for some people) on. There's no way a real group of nations would have let things escalate like that.

OOC: I'm beginning to agree with ignoring the entire conflict. It was complete stupidity from about page 7 (I use 40 posts / page, so it might be a lot higher for some people) on. There's no way a real group of nations would have let things escalate like that.


I use 40 post/page too. Im just gonan count the war as an "Nuclear incedent" were willink kicked everyones ass... again.


THe willink observational destroyer audace will be placed 500km off the coast of Arabanistan to observe the nuclear blast. Here are pics of destroyer:
PiC 1 (http://digilander.libero.it/marinai/images/iaru_2.jpg)
Pic 2 (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/images/d551-audace.jpg)
Pic 3 (http://www.futura-dtp.dk/FLEET/images/skibe/Audace.jpg)
Pic 4 (http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNIT_5-54_LW_Audace.jpg)

I use 40 post/page too. Im just gonan count the war as an "Nuclear incedent" were willink kicked everyones ass... again.

Kjata Major would have done most of the killing. :)

Willink has fired a single M84A(harebinger) ICBM, with 300 MZ-28 firestorm napalm warheads, aimed at the port that begins with a D in arabanistan, which the napalm burns so hot it burns the sand, titanium, steel and the dirt itself burns. When in lower orbit, the warheads are released and spread out over a 20 mile radius. It burns so much the sky is blacked out, making it feel like night. Impact time is 45 min.

It would do this:
Pic (http://www.madchat.org/vxdevl/vxmags/rrlf5/arts/Napalm_Nights.jpg)
Pic 2 (http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/STUDENTS/Endo/burning.gif)
Pic 3 (http://www.mykaussie.com/images/fire9.jpg)
Pic 4 (http://www.withthecommand.com/plantfire.jpg)
Pic 5 (http://www.varnafire.org/RBSF.gif)
Pic 6 (aftermath) (http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/gabrmetz/hiro_02.gif)

Willink has fired a single M84A(harebinger) ICBM, with 300 MZ-28 firestorm napalm warheads, aimed at the port that begins with a D in arabanistan, which the napalm burns so hot it burns the sand, titanium, steel and the dirt itself burns. When in lower orbit, the warheads are released and spread out over a 20 mile radius. It burns so much the sky is blacked out, making it feel like night. Impact time is 45 min.

It would do this:
Pic (http://www.madchat.org/vxdevl/vxmags/rrlf5/arts/Napalm_Nights.jpg)
Pic 2 (http://iml.jou.ufl.edu/projects/STUDENTS/Endo/burning.gif)
Pic 3 (http://www.mykaussie.com/images/fire9.jpg)
Pic 4 (http://www.withthecommand.com/plantfire.jpg)
Pic 5 (http://www.varnafire.org/RBSF.gif)
Pic 6 (aftermath) (http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/gabrmetz/hiro_02.gif)



OOC: yeah.....now its just ridiculous....

and fun ! :D

Willink, the only reason you kicked anyones ass is your refusal to take any loses and accept anything under 100% effectiveness on your missiles.

I'm ignoring most of this thread, Arabanistan, expect a TG from me before Wednesday.

(OOC)

No way is Arabanistan defeated.

In fact victory is very near!!!

Only one nuke flying towards me, ok it BIG and ill lose a lot of people, but ill make a post on sending my forces out of the balst area so the military of Arabanistan won't be wiped out.

I will lose a few milion civilians but hey, thats war.

But now once the nations know of Kjata Major action's and if Willink uses nukes, then these two nations will be nukes into the earth by every other nation.

Im afraid Arabanistan, you are not excepting the Magnitude of your situation,
Its going to spread radioactive dust over nearly all of the country, pluss all those other ICBMs are going to kill anyone who survives, face it. your finished.

It would prpbably be a googd idea to use a picture of Hamburg after teh firebombings for the aftermath picture.

(OOC)

No way is Arabanistan defeated.

In fact victory is very near!!!

Only one nuke flying towards me, ok it BIG and ill lose a lot of people, but ill make a post on sending my forces out of the balst area so the military of Arabanistan won't be wiped out.

I will lose a few milion civilians but hey, thats war.

But now once the nations know of Kjata Major action's and if Willink uses nukes, then these two nations will be nukes into the earth by every other nation.

OOC: Somehow I sincerely doubt that, most counries are not sufficiently stupid to engender nucleur war.

IC: Yriel, aware of the launch of the nucleur warheads, now felt compelled to do the same to Arabanistan in light of its overt and fraudulent use of propaganda, and authorised the launch of the sole nucleur ICBM at his disposal. Upon verification of the launch code, and secondary authorisation by the head of the armed forces, the missile was ejected from the launch facility in a flare of inacandescant flame, and soared into the air, purposed towardsArabanistan's capital...

Aboard the ironically named Seydlitz class crusier, Sunrise, the comm recieveed the authorisation ot ifre, the captain went o teh main bridge, teh first officer to the engine room, as one they turned the launch keys arming the weapons, in seconds the missile commander had dispatched one missile form each of the cruisers five lauinchers, tehy woul darrive over the coast of Arabanistan approximately one horu after teh detonation of the big bomb, each armed with a top secret warhead.

OOC: You dont know if i launched nukes or not, if i havent and you attack youll start a nuclear holocaust.

OOC: I was assuming that orbital satellites, naval observers and long range radar outposts would have discerned the launch of the missiles, or that inter-allied collusion would have informed us of the fact. And to be honest, with the war as it is, a nucleur strik seems a natural progression from conventional arms, we were going to launch biological or chemical missiles at him...

I just dont want the bakclash, so now the COnfederate Space Command has launched 20 ICBMs at him armed with Anthrax, VX and "Sex bomb" Virus' along wiht 5 napalm warheads.

All over Arabanistan

As news came in of the Kjata Major ICBM heading towards the nation, President Assad gave orders for evry town and city to be evacuated.

Air raid sirens and government propaganda megaphone posts gave orders for all the cities to be made empty and for people to head to the nearest forests or hills and find as much cover as possible from any blasts.

Gas masks and protective equipment was taken up by helicopters and given to as many drop off points in the country.

ALL Arabanistani Air Force jet fighters were given orders to go into the skies and fly towards the coast as the ICBM appeared to be heading for a target inland. This would not only save the jet fighters from being blown to pieces but also get the jet fighters away from the EMP effects of the blast, so as to preserve their working condition.

All SAM systems were now concertrating on the ICBM and interceptor jets were sent to go after the ICBM, all armed with AA missiles and ready to take it out as it decends.

Superb, we will join you in this venture through the firing of 10 chlorine gas warheads at all major Arabanistani urban regions, and through the launching of 4 napalm deployment missiles into the forest regions of Arabanistan.

(OOC)

To: Blessed Chris.

How stupid are you???

Why does a nations propaganda warrant a nuclear attack???

You would kill millions becuase of my nations news services.

Many nations will now nuke you as your president has now made himself a war criminal.

Ill also nuke you now.

"Sir there attempting to intercept the missile"
"The idiots, give them everything we have,"
"yes, sir im emptying our armoury"

The rapid firing launchers on the cruiser Sunrise fired all 300 cruise missiles against Arabinstan in 15 minutes, napalm warheads were sent agianst the forests, as well love virus bombs, teh other nuclear armed weapons (75 in all) targeted htmeselves on cities n the edge of the main nuclear blast area.
Th nuclear weapons being used were 500 Kiloton Red Sun Thermonuclear devices. Nowhere near as big as the nbig warhead but still enough to easily level a metrpolitan area.

(OOC)

Im IGNORING you last post Spizania as you used an OOC comment in a IC contex, I have to make an IC threat to blessed chris before you can respond in kind.

If you dont retract you nuclear attack ill ban you from this thread!

OOC: HOLY CRAP. I leave, come back in the morning, and find over 200 mroe posts. Can someone fill me in on what's happened?

OOC: Yet again I doubt it, we have allies and comrades enacting precisely the same attacks, and how many nations are willing to attack a nation both capable and willing to enter nucleur warfare over principles? Incidentally, read the principal post in "The coreworlds and I" thread, it outlines how to rp in the spirit of the game. Our attacks are nothing more than part of a game, you ought to view them as such, not as a personal insult. Finally, our president is a "High Imperator", do not embaress yourself by naming him otherwise, and he intends to forge a reputation as a strong, capable and ruthless leader at the head of a similarly inclined nation. If you must resort to name calling when motivelessly attacked, you ought to evaluate why you enter rp's.

(OOC)

To: SkyCapt.

There have been more naval and cruise missile attacks between Willink and McKagan.

Parthia and its Shah have found out about it's city being nuked in VSI, they blame Willink and have made threats of nuking them. Plus Parthia has ships in my ports to give me military supplies and support.

Kjata Major launched a 200 megaton nuclear ICBM at me and it's still flying towards me.

Blessed Chris has also launched a nuclear ICBM at me ans it still in midair.

I have IGNORED the last post on Spizania firing his nukes as he mized OOC with IC.

OOC: Spizania, I wish to propose a military alliance in this and other threads. Will you accept? (The same stands to anyone else willing to nuke Mr. Grumpy :D )

Yes why not, i hope this wasnt going ot hurt my alliance with willink.

Right i have edited to remove the reference to the threat of lauch, im noonger breaking any rules.

OOC: I can see all those fighters laucnhing and sams readying thorugh our spy sattilites so i can make conclusions based on that data, i doesnt matter if its true or not.

Arabanistan

After Arabanistan learned of another nuclear ICBM heading towards Arabanistan came from the nation of Blessed Chris, Arabanistan decided it was time to use her nuclear weapons.

45 nuclear ICBMs were fired from their silos and made their way into the skies as they flew to their tragets in Blessed Chris.

5 of the Arabanistani ICBMs were heading for the capital city of Blessed Chris. The other 40 ICBMs were aimed at the enemies ICBM silos, their military and air force bases, their ports and other major cities in Blessed Chris.

Arabanistan

A further 20 nuclear ICBMs were luanched at the nation of Spizania after their launching of nuclear missiles was picked up by Arabanistan.

4 of the ICBMs were heading for the capital city of Spizania and the rest were at other large cities and towns as well as ports and thier ICBM silos.

Confederate Space Command, Porkins Mountain

"Sir we have mulitple weapons launches, ICBMS form Arabanistan"
"Nuclear?"
"We cant tell from here"
"We have no choice, fire our ICBM detterant!"
"Yes, Sir"

Silos opened across the confederacy opened as thirty nuclear ICBMs emerged riding pillars of flames.

Each ICBM is armed with 10 independant warheads, seperating in low orbit, each warhead is the same 500 kT weapon as mounted on the cruise missiles of the fleets weaponry.

All aircraft capable of intercepting the missiles luanched, all cities began evacuating, all remaing ICBMs were fired, so 150 in all armed with a mixxture of Anthrax, VT and napalm.

Parthia and its Shah have found out about it's city being nuked in VSI, they blame Willink and have made threats of nuking them
http://forums.filefront.com/images/smilies/_ROFL.gif SO are they on our side, or neutral?

SkyCapt, i advise your beocming neutral, this is beocming a nuclear holocaust.

(OOC)

Yeah, thanks to you, B. Chris and Kjata Major.

WTF was wrong with conventional warfare???

Spizania: And a nation as small as you can stay in? No. I'm staying, and getting n00ks ASAP.

By the wya those first five warheads inbound are actually meant to drop cleanup abcterai over hte soon to be radioactive terrtiory of Arabanistan.
I mean it is too late ofr my SkyCapt but you can save millions of your citizens by getting out now.

By the wya those first five warheads inbound are actually meant to drop cleanup abcterai over hte soon to be radioactive terrtiory of Arabanistan.
OOC: So... What's the point of that? :rolleyes:

Becasue we wnat it to be liveable after teh war adnd by the time my crusie missiles arrive Arabanistan will have been hit by that monster of a missile.

(OOC: lol, you guys have some fairly poor generals if their first suggestion to your countries rulers is to break out some nuclear missiles and begin the first ever nuclear holocaust which will probably suck in about 20 nations and end in the death of a couple of billion people. Chemical weapons are one thing, if used discreetly, but nukes? :rolleyes: )

OoC: You do know that to create nukes you have to be a minimum of one month old. And to have them you need to be one month or have ben given them or have bought them.

OOC: N00klear warfare is for desperate n00bies who are cheap. Unless you're bored.

(OOC)

Yeah, thanks to you, B. Chris and Kjata Major.

WTF was wrong with conventional warfare???

OOC: Well I am sorry for being a capable and ruthless military commander,a nd don't cry about it dear, it's called total war for a reason. Furthermore, 40 ICBM's in response to a few gas, napalm and nuke attacks is a tad vindictive and excessive no? Moreover, how do you propose being aware of the location of all my ICBM silo's given that they're clandestine in location (godmodding anyne?), and how on earth does a nation that cannot be 200 million strong posses upwards of 100 ICBM's? Both of the above imply a nation prone to godmodding and fraudulence. Don't take the whole affair so seriously either dear, read "the coreworlds and I" thread, it is an exemplary illustration of rp-ing in the correct spirit and jocularity.

IC: All artistic, military, political and financial indivduals, equipment and works evcuate to neighbouring puppet nations of Damastes and Chris on High. All poor, unemployed, undesirable and degenerates abandoned in the cities to perish. All available interceptor jets, some 500, mustered and launched to render the nucleur attack impotent, and 10000 interceptor missiles ejected from silo's to engage and destroy ICBM's over the bay of Damastes to negate any nucleur fallout. Finally, the remianing 45 ICBM's in silo's have been launched to transmute Arabanistan into a nucleur wasteland, and to render it utterly uninhabitable.

(OOC: lol, you guys have some fairly poor generals if their first suggestion to your countries rulers is to break out some nuclear missiles and begin the first ever nuclear holocaust which will probably suck in about 20 nations and end in the death of a couple of billion people. Chemical weapons are one thing, if used discreetly, but nukes? :rolleyes: )

OOC: I have used an awful lot of chemical and biological weapons upon Arabanistan, he simply ignored both the attacks and their implications. BTW, we are still in august aren't we, since if we are Arabanistan ought to be incapable of the possesion or creation of a nucleur weapon. We have attampted peace talks, however only two nations contrived to arrive.

OOC:
how on earth does a nation that cannot be 200 million strong posses upwards of 100 ICBM's?
Maybe he bought them! OMG! *gasp* Did you think of that?!

All over Arabanistan

As news came in of the Kjata Major ICBM heading towards the nation, President Assad gave orders for evry town and city to be evacuated.

Air raid sirens and government propaganda megaphone posts gave orders for all the cities to be made empty and for people to head to the nearest forests or hills and find as much cover as possible from any blasts.

Gas masks and protective equipment was taken up by helicopters and given to as many drop off points in the country.

ALL Arabanistani Air Force jet fighters were given orders to go into the skies and fly towards the coast as the ICBM appeared to be heading for a target inland. This would not only save the jet fighters from being blown to pieces but also get the jet fighters away from the EMP effects of the blast, so as to preserve their working condition.

All SAM systems were now concertrating on the ICBM and interceptor jets were sent to go after the ICBM, all armed with AA missiles and ready to take it out as it decends.

Shooting it down would create a blast wave that would destroy all your planes attacking it, not to mention he said he has ECM on it.

"Sir, its degenerated into nuclear holocaust, Arbanistan will be lucky if 500 people survive without 3rd degree burns covering their bodies. Arbanistan is gonna be a big sheet of glass."

"Shame, no reason to use any of our nukes. But put HDP and TEOO defense mechanisms online at full, combined they have a 98% chance of stopping anything coming in. If anyone fires nukes at us, take 'em down and fire ten-fold at them. Send the 68th Marine division to Arbanistan, we're gonna get as much of that glass as we can. Make sure they have the 1st Corps of the 3rd army behind them. We'll have to do lots of cleanup, like TLS afterward on this."

OOC:

OOC:

Maybe he bought them! OMG! *gasp* Did you think of that?!

It is feasible, but a nation of that ize affording the purchase of over 100 modern ICBM's, even you must agree it's implausible.

What the hell is the parthians blaming me for, i didnt even have to do with the ICBM launch, skycapt use tungsen rods to attack kjata major and he launched 350 chemical and biological missikes(which will whip out almost every civilian in your country.), along with a 200 megaton nuke, and he ignored my ASAT missiles fired at his communication platform.

OOC:



It is feasible, but a nation of that ize affording the purchase of over 100 modern ICBM's, even you must agree it's implausible.

OOC: You're right, he cant afford all of those, he could only have some of them, so if he has that many someone must have given hi some. And with his nation's age, its highly unlikely all the weapons would be used correctly. Some of the nukes might blow up as launching, not launch, not blow up on thier target, or go somewhere else, he's not old enough to know how to properly operate them.

OOC:



It is feasible, but a nation of that ize affording the purchase of over 100 modern ICBM's, even you must agree it's implausible.


RUssia has 143 million people and has upwards of 5,000 ICBMs, though most are being deactivated, so it is pretty feasable to have 100, i have upwards of 500 ICBMs

What the hell is the parthians blaming me for, i didnt even have to do with the ICBM launch, skycapt use tungsen rods to attack kjata major and he launched 350 chemical and biological missikes(which will whip out almost every civilian in your country.), along with a 200 megaton nuke, and he ignored my ASAT missiles fired at his communication platform.
No I didn't. I forgot to RP the attack. So it has taken just under major damage, some systems are shutdown, some are somewhat damaged.

OOC: I'm sure Parthians can not be counted as on Arbanistan's side. His ships were on their way to Arbanistan. When he gets my message (Checks the thread) he will turn around because he will see that he would be supporting his enemy, and my enemy, and since we are very very close allies.

RUssia has 143 million people and has upwards of 5,000 ICBMs, though most are being deactivated, so it is pretty feasable to have 100, i have upwards of 500 ICBMs

I suppose that is true, but nonetheless, his response was excessive.

Incidentally, I have established a peace negotiations thread for all combatants since this conflicts benefits none now nucleur war is prevailant. I would b appreciative if all would enter, since the war itself is now ludicrous.

OOC: Arabanistan can kick all n00kers, and let them back in provided they use no n00ks... Lol. :p

I suppose that is true, but nonetheless, his response was excessive.

Incidentally, I have established a peace negotiations thread for all combatants since this conflicts benefits none now nucleur war is prevailant. I would b appreciative if all would enter, since the war itself is now ludicrous.

OOC: Pssstt, you should probably give the link.

And Willink, Russia is thousands of years old and used to be one of two world super-powers in a nuclear stockpile. THey are no longer a super-power but still have their weapons, they've decreased in every aspect from where they were when they were the USSR (It may not sound like it but I hate communism and the USSR). Now they have a GDP equivalent to that of a third world country. Your thinking of modern Russia with nukes which in reality they came from world super-power Russia. And this is NS and that's how the rules go.

(OOC)

My nuclear ICBMs were bought from the nation of Willink, before we became enemies!

His Soviet design ICBMs were not that expensive.

I believe the bill came to 510 million or something like that.

I made another thread about my nation's nuclear abilities!

I got all my nukes form WIllink
Ill abort my strikes if Arabanistan aborts all the missiles heading at me.

(OOC)

I don't know, I was HAPPY with a conventional war until the idiots Blessed Chris and Kjata Major used their nukes FIRST

If all nations abort their nukes flying towards me, then Ill abort mine!

Then peace talks can begin to end this war as this war does not even have ANY objectives or goals!

"Peace negotiations in the Arabanistani-Willink war"

The thread is just about on the first page of international incidents, and nobody can really claim peace isn't preferable to nucleur war...

Lets Just Pause shall we, freeze time while we conduct the peace talks, that way we have no acts which might be detrimentla to your nations security.

(OOC)

My nuclear ICBMs were bought from the nation of Willink, before we became enemies!

His Soviet design ICBMs were not that expensive.

I believe the bill came to 510 million or something like that.

I made another thread about my nation's nuclear abilities!


Yes but i belive you bought SS- 17 Spanker ICBM's, which have been out of service in russia for twenty years.

If Blessed Chris, Spizania abort their nuke attack, Ill abort mine and ask Willink for peace.

Kjata Major has always turned down peace is led by a series of mad generals who cannot think straight.

As Kjata Major started the nuclear conflict I suggest all other nations unite to ask them to stand down or face a united action.

Negotiations thread y'all:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440703 (http://)

I bought the SS-22s not the SS-17.

Besides I bought them from you not russia, so what if they no longer are in service in that nation.

I bought the SS-22s not the SS-17.

Besides I bought them from you not russia, so what if they no longer are in service in that nation.

SS-22's only have a range of 900km, and i am over 1,500km away from you so you cant hit me with them.

Shit im confused now here.

Willink I bought the ones with the 10,000km range, which model are those in the SS series???

Willink can we have peace talks now!

Ill do peace with you, B. Chris and Spizania.

Kjata Major can be included but their generals seem to be mad and doubt they will agree to it.

Shit im confused now here.

Willink I bought the ones with the 10,000km range, which model are those in the SS series???

SS-22's are medium range tactical nuclear missiles, not ICBM's, check out this website and clike surface to surface on the sidebar:

http://www.wonderland.org.nz/


I think they may be SS-24's, then, they are 10,000km ICBM's.

Well i do remeber buying the 10,000km ranged ones, what model was that?????

Well i do remeber buying the 10,000km ranged ones, what model was that?????

OOC: He just said the SS-24s

Spizania, B. Chris:

Abort your nukes and ill abort mine!

Lets have peace!

Willink:

Lets have peace, lets go to the table.

Well i do remeber buying the 10,000km ranged ones, what model was that?????

SS-24 ICBM's, look like this: Pic (http://www.skyrocket.de/space/img_lau/rt23_1.jpg)
Pic 2 (http://www.tayyareci.com/rusfuzeleri/imagesfuze/ss24f.jpg), it has MIRV which means and it has 6 nuclear warheads which can be aimed seperatley.

(OOC)

I don't know, I was HAPPY with a conventional war until the idiots Blessed Chris and Kjata Major used their nukes FIRST

If all nations abort their nukes flying towards me, then Ill abort mine!

Then peace talks can begin to end this war as this war does not even have ANY objectives or goals!


OOC: No....there were nuclear missiles used before. Torpedo ones. Arabanistan you forced this on yourself. The death of a leader invokes the wrath of ALL of Kjata Major.

Respond to the napalm missile you shot down.....
Respond to the missile launches in an NON-stupid way
Next time read what you last missed. I did it.

Arabanistan was NOT the one that used the nukes or the nation which killed your General!

Deal with the nations that did this!

And you and Willink delcared war on me, you were the first to use nukes OUTSIDE the battle of VSI.

Other nations want peace now, why don't you????

Your only showing yourself up as a rogue nation with an ustable leadership!

Arabanistan was NOT the one that used the nukes or the nation which killed your General!

Deal with the nations that did this!

And you and Willink delcared war on me, you were the first to use nukes OUTSIDE the battle of VSI.

Other nations want peace now, why don't you????

Your only showing yourself up as a rogue nation with an ustable leadership!

ICly that information was denied. You claimed there would be no peace first. We made 5 attempts at peace, you refused all of them and mocked our people and God. I say that is a damn good reason to go to war under previous threats to.

Your demands were unfair.

You aimed to subvert a nations soverienty and tried to order us on our internal affairs.

MOST nations would refuse such demands and would fight to defeat such demands.

Would you accept a nation to ask you to change your regime and disarm your weapons!

Your demands were unfair.

You aimed to subvert a nations soverienty and tried to order us on our internal affairs.

MOST nations would refuse such demands and would fight to defeat such demands.

Would you accept a nation to ask you to change your regime and disarm your weapons!

We did not do such things.....proves you didn't read the original ones right

We wanted inspectors to make sure things were fine and then we'd leave. Then just a reform on the abuse and pointless killings of civilians, which could be worked out and Arabanistan could be PAID for the 'death row' kind of people. Then the third thing was to stop isolationism and allow our businesses to import from you again.

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Kjata, I have no objections to your continuation of the war against Arabanistan, since your actions are your own, however, could you continue this as a seperate thread, since the war between Arabanistan and Willink is in a process of negotiation and cessation.

you guys have no lives....

Kjata, I have no objections to your continuation of the war against Arabanistan, since your actions are your own, however, could you continue this as a seperate thread, since the war between Arabanistan and Willink is in a process of negotiation and cessation.

Ya....I am doing it there....still waiting on his response.

you guys have no lives....

OOC: And I don't care.

Don't worry about his nukes, they were ICBMs bought from me the 22 Kiloton Faust models shipped over by McKagan. So they are of Leafanistani manufacture and are long range ICBMs. I am considering ignoring this entire war because of the sheer amount of stupidity you people have. Nuclear weapons are never an alternative unless you've been hit first. Sigh...

OOC: And I don't care.

Don't worry about his nukes, they were ICBMs bought from me the 22 Kiloton Faust models shipped over by McKagan. So they are of Leafanistani manufacture and are long range ICBMs. I am considering ignoring this entire war because of the sheer amount of stupidity you people have. Nuclear weapons are never an alternative unless you've been hit first. Sigh...

If I recall my General's base was hit and destroyed, everyone inside perished.

I recall Maccagan utilising nulcear weapons against confederate assets in Castle.

Arabanistan has NO control over MvKagan's actions.

If you wish to take up the nuclear attack in VSI then McKagan is the nation to talk to.

Arabanistani SAMs were now able to launch their missiles at the incoming Kjata Major ICBM as it was now in range.

30 SAMs were now on their way to intercept the ICBM and were fired to hit the ICBM at a 30 degree angle after Arabanistan was given the data from Kjata Major as part of the peace talks.

The missile shot towards the sea, its couse arcing and changing like a snake. It slips into the sea and a slight explosion is heard, the nuclear warhead never goes off. The missile is destroyed.

"Sir, Arbanistan was able to destroy the missile before it hit and destroyed their nation. And they didnt even have to use HDP."

"Good, good. Most of their land is already ravaged by this war and missiles, we blew up a shitload of their country. I think it's time for peace now."

Official Imperial Statment:

Now that all of the missiles in the air are no longer a threat to any nation we find this the perfect time for any and all nation who have not already done so to join the peace talks. Together we can achieve peace.

From: The Republic of Arabanistan

To: All Nation

The Republic of Arabanistan announces that the war is now over.

All hostile actions between Arabanistan and Allied nations and Willink and their Allied nations as well as Kjata Major are now over.

Arabanistan urges all nations to attend the peace talks and to begin the process of dialogue as our nation, along with so many others came so close to extinction with the release of nuclear weapons towards the end of this conflict.

Let us now all unite and work for peace.

May God bless all nations on both sides of this war.

President Hafez al Assad

What are you talking about, i have over 300 warheads still on 30 ICBMs aswell as god knows how many other warheads, my engineers are working on ditching hte weapons wihtout destroying them so that htey can be recovered (those things cost alot) Not to worry Arabanistan is in no danger.

All nations are now in talks and combat is over, thus the war is now over, pending the peace treaty that will be signed.

What are you talking about, i have over 300 warheads still on 30 ICBMs aswell as god knows how many other warheads, my engineers are working on ditching hte weapons wihtout destroying them so that htey can be recovered (those things cost alot) Not to worry Arabanistan is in no danger.

There are still kjata majors 350 chemical and biological missiles flying at arabanistan, if you guys forgot..

OOC: IF the war is over, I'm pulling out. If not, well, I'm still pulling out.

...Encrypting...
...2VX Encryption Complete...

Official Imperial Communique:
To: The Parthians
From: Chancellor Licinius

Send you ships away from Armanistan as fast as humanely possible. Three reasons:
1.) Your aiding our enemy
2.) Arbanistan's side was responsible for the attack on Island City
3.) Some crazed general launched an OH MY GOD HY00GE nuke at arbanistan, and you ships wont survive if they stay there.

End Transmission



Official Delta Class Encrypted Statement from the Shah

We had no idea you were against him. I have no intention of helping the enemy of my good ally. Thus, I have given the order for the ships to return immediatley.

-Shah Khosru III

Official Delta Class Encrypted Statement from the Shah

We had no idea you were against him. I have no intention of helping the enemy of my good ally. Thus, I have given the order for the ships to return immediatley.

-Shah Khosru III

Official Imperial Communique:

To: The Parthians
From: Chancelor Licinius

Thank you very much.

End Transmission

The Commander of the newly arrived Indomitable looked back towards the island. So much had taken palce on the now cratered piece of land. But now they were headed home, for a well earned month of R&R...

The Commander of the newly arrived Indomitable looked back towards the island. So much had taken palce on the now cratered piece of land. But now they were headed home, for a well earned month of R&R...

Whats that about,
Also since the war is over we would like to welcome you back to the peacekeeping force on VSI, the brigadier that fired on you is facing disiplinary action.

Whats that about,
Also since the war is over we would like to welcome you back to the peacekeeping force on VSI, the brigadier that fired on you is facing disiplinary action.
Um... The war is over, my fleet needs repairs, my men need rest... Can you guess what that's about? Oh, and the 1st Corps is being relieved from Homeland Defence Duty, half are going to VSI. (6,000 Regulars)

An armada of supply ships protected by a number of Maddox Battleships made their way towards Arbanistan as the war fleets returned. These ships would begin construction of the Borman military base and of neighboring parts of Arabanistan.

OOC: This war = :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

Consequently, this did not happen in the views of Halberdgardia. Arabanistan, consider Kanos still somewhat pissed off at Hassad for insulting him. He doesn't buy the "it was a mistake on my part" excuse. And Willink, I'm beginning to think your actions were irresponsible enough to merit a review of your SWC membership, pending the agreement of the other members. We may have to disown you for starting this mess. We'll see. ICly, relations between our two nations are going to be strained; Kanos didn't like the position your actions forced him into.

OOC: The war might be rekindled... 0.o Teh drama...

OOC: The war might be rekindled... 0.o Teh drama...

OOC: Put bluntly, I don't give a damn. I'm sick of my SWC allies fighting against each other over some stupid conflict that shouldn't have even happened in the first place. ICly, I'm pissed at Willink for starting things, I'm (sort of) pissed at McKagan and Leaf for openly siding with Arabanistan, and I'm pissed at Arabanistan because he tried to frame me for a revolution in his country. On top of it all, no one seems to want to listen to my proposals to stand down. I don't have time to react instantly like everyone else here does, either. Plus I have the AMF/Prae War to worry about.[/rant] I feel better now.

OOC: I had to defend against the rampant imperialism. And Arabsahari, etc, tone it down, stay low for a while instead of rising up quickly.

OOC: What? What are you talking about war starting again?

My rants about this war:

Willink: OOCly he complained about everything. He wouldn't accept any loses and any damage on another person below having his weapons at 100%.


Thus, I'm ignoring half of what happened here. I targeted Willinks subs multiple times, and he just screamed OOCly instead of scoring any hits. Now I wouldn't have been mad about that, if he just didn't use the subs off Arabanistans coast anymore. But what happened? He ignored my attacks and fired into Arabanistan more. So i'm going to return the favor and ignore that his subs magically slipped by the security net I'd set up.

And Hal, something HAS to happen at the SWC. Willink fired on Leafanistan and I, so for all intents and purposes, there will be a thread by me in a few days.

And BTW, I'm IGNORING ANYONE who talks ICly of having knowlege of my tactical nuclear strike on the fortress, or of me supplying Arabanistan with nukes and chemical weapons.

Arabanistan: For the sake of all that is the least bit holy, MAKE THE NEXT ONE OF THESE THINGS CLOSED! Please.

OOC: I'll back you up, McKagan. Now, if only Willink would refine his english...

OOC: I'll back you up, McKagan. Now, if only Willink would refine his english...

What's wrong with his English? The only thing i've ever saw is the random typo or spacing error.

OOC: And those random typos were everywhere... No wait, that was Spiz... Close enough.

OOC: And those random typos were everywhere... No wait, that was Spiz... Close enough.

Just to make it clear, I'm not going for an invasion of Willink, that would cost more in my navy, I just want to get him out of the SWC. Giving that he fired on two SWC Member Nations, it shouldn't be hard either.

OOC: Teh boredom resumes... Ah well.

[tag; I got to read all of this before I make a post.]

OOC: Good luck on that...

OOC: I'm going to have to agree with Hal and McKagan about reviewing Willink's membership in the SWC. There was no reason for him to attack McKagan and Leafanistan before attempting diplomatic efforts, and even after that he shouldn't have attacked his allies. For all I know, he could attack me next.

OOC: I'm going to have to agree with Hal and McKagan about reviewing Willink's membership in the SWC. There was no reason for him to attack McKagan and Leafanistan before attempting diplomatic efforts, and even after that he shouldn't have attacked his allies. For all I know, he could attack me next.

OOC: Preemptive strike innuendo?

OOC: All you need to do is bring down Lightsaber equipped Stormtrooper Legions...

My rants about this war:

Willink: OOCly he complained about everything. He wouldn't accept any loses and any damage on another person below having his weapons at 100%.


Thus, I'm ignoring half of what happened here. I targeted Willinks subs multiple times, and he just screamed OOCly instead of scoring any hits. Now I wouldn't have been mad about that, if he just didn't use the subs off Arabanistans coast anymore. But what happened? He ignored my attacks and fired into Arabanistan more. So i'm going to return the favor and ignore that his subs magically slipped by the security net I'd set up.

And Hal, something HAS to happen at the SWC. Willink fired on Leafanistan and I, so for all intents and purposes, there will be a thread by me in a few days.

And BTW, I'm IGNORING ANYONE who talks ICly of having knowlege of my tactical nuclear strike on the fortress, or of me supplying Arabanistan with nukes and chemical weapons.

Arabanistan: For the sake of all that is the least bit holy, MAKE THE NEXT ONE OF THESE THINGS CLOSED! Please.

Umm...ya Willink was crazy about that. This SWC what is it exactly?

OOC: Saharistan War Coalition?

OOC: All you need to do is bring down Lightsaber equipped Stormtrooper Legions...

OOC: If that was sarcasm, I hope you realize that in any MT rp I join, Stormtroopers are just cool-looking soldiers equipped with normal MT guns. And their lightsabers are turned into flashlights. Only in FT are my Stormtroopers really Stormtroopers.

The Saharistan War Coalition was exactly that. They brought down a dictator who moments before fleeing his country, decided to blow it up. (We lost an entire battalion :mad: ) After his capture, many nations took parts of Saharistan and rebuilt it.

OOC: Saharistan War Coalition?

What is that then? O.O

My rants about this war:

Willink: OOCly he complained about everything. He wouldn't accept any loses and any damage on another person below having his weapons at 100%.


Thus, I'm ignoring half of what happened here. I targeted Willinks subs multiple times, and he just screamed OOCly instead of scoring any hits. Now I wouldn't have been mad about that, if he just didn't use the subs off Arabanistans coast anymore. But what happened? He ignored my attacks and fired into Arabanistan more. So i'm going to return the favor and ignore that his subs magically slipped by the security net I'd set up.

And Hal, something HAS to happen at the SWC. Willink fired on Leafanistan and I, so for all intents and purposes, there will be a thread by me in a few days.

And BTW, I'm IGNORING ANYONE who talks ICly of having knowlege of my tactical nuclear strike on the fortress, or of me supplying Arabanistan with nukes and chemical weapons.

Arabanistan: For the sake of all that is the least bit holy, MAKE THE NEXT ONE OF THESE THINGS CLOSED! Please.


From what i remember you attacked my subs once. I killed 3 leafanistani merchant marines in a strike on the port ( i didnt know his ships were there for gods sake) Then sank two of my frigates and damadged several other ships. Which for all i know ICly, could be counted as an first strike.

What is that then? O.O

Here, read the wonderful NSWiki article:
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Saharistan_War

And then for the actual SWC:
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Saharistan_War_Coalition

From what i remember you attacked my subs once. I killed 3 leafanistani merchant marines in a strike on the port ( i didnt know his ships were there for gods sake) Then sank two of my frigates and damadged several other ships. Which for all i know ICly, could be counted as an first strike.

From what I saw is you wanted your weapons to have perfect stats and have no problems. You also seemed to IGNORE alot of attacks, which was just plain cheap.

Did I IGNORE the space-based weapon? What did it get me? A dead General and 3000+ losses.

From what I saw is you wanted your weapons to have perfect stats and have no problems. You also seemed to IGNORE alot of attacks, which was just plain cheap.

Did I IGNORE the space-based weapon? What did it get me? A dead General and 3000+ losses.


The only attack i ignored was mckagens cruise missile strike, because i forgot about it.

The nation of 255070625 wishes to provide Arabanistan with various types of cheese to feed your infantrymen as a symbol of peace and good will. We understand that you are fighting a defensive war, and we respect and admire your diplomacy. We hope the war ends peacefully and further loss of life is minimal. Perhaps we may engage in an economic alliance once your country is stable again.

The nation of 255070625 wishes to provide Arabanistan with various types of cheese to feed your infantrymen as a symbol of peace and good will. We understand that you are fighting a defensive war, and we respect and admire your diplomacy. We hope the war ends peacefully and further loss of life is minimal. Perhaps we may engage in an economic alliance once your country is stable again.

OOC:
The war is over. Arabanistan is plagued with chemical and biological clouds and some nuclear weapons have detonated by them, causing radiation to go into the water.

The peace pact is done.

BTW, Cheese has opiates in it. You sick fiend.

The only attack i ignored was mckagens cruise missile strike, because i forgot about it.

When you fired on a Leafanistani target I attacked your subs with torpedos and artillery shells and you ignored it, when you fired into Arabanistan from sub based positions I fired over 100 (or was it over 1000) missiles at the position, and it was ignored.

My appologies... well, perhaps Kjata Major would like to establish economic relations with us. We only wish to expand our markets and make the most out of our economy. Our major exports are cheese, uranium, and books.

OOC: Lol. Maybe Leafy can help decontaminate the country.

OOC: Saharistan War Coalition?

Yes.

My first post on this site was one of sending a destroyer to watch a situation in a thread called "War Between Leafanistan and Saharistan!" or something like that.

Basically, Leaf and Sahar(Arabanistan/Algeristan's first account) went to war. Then, Hal had a destroyer there with mine, to watch the situation. Saharistan started yelling stuff at Hals ship, saying it was part of an invasion, even though we were neutral, and finally attacked it, decimating it.

From there, Hal and I declared war, Leaf was pounding positions in Saharistan. Then I made my famous "Rivers of Fire" post, where Saharistan's capital was carpet napalmed.

We landed 300,000 troops, other nations landed more, we went to his capital and called it a day.

double post

When you fired on a Leafanistani target I attacked your subs with torpedos and artillery shells and you ignored it, when you fired into Arabanistan from sub based positions I fired over 100 (or was it over 1000) missiles at the position, and it was ignored.

I remember the 1000 missiles, but you just said to say to move out of the area, and i dont remember you attacking my subs anytime else. You might have when i was offline, then again i dont really know because the thread grows 10 pages longer(im on 40/a page) every 5 minutes.

(Why dont we just stop bickering ?)

My appologies... well, perhaps Kjata Major would like to establish economic relations with us. We only wish to expand our markets and make the most out of our economy. Our major exports are cheese, uranium, and books.


Make a new thread for discussion of this, don't want to clutter the 'aftermath' section of the war.

I remember the 1000 missiles, but you just said to say to move out of the area, and i dont remember you attacking my subs anytime else. You might have when i was offline, then again i dont really know because the thread grows 10 pages longer(im on 40/a page) every 5 minutes.

(Why dont we just stop bickering ?)

Sorry, but I was under the impression you was just ignoring my strike, because I didn't think you made a post saying you were moving out of the area or anything, all I saw was my attack being challenged.

This thread does grow to fast, but when your subs launched their first attack, I attacked them with my own subs in the area. But it's ok now.

You do understand though, I've still got to push to get you removed from the SWC.

OOC: Mac (and The Macabees, in case you see this, I'm talking to McKagan, not you; I just happen to use the same nick for him), there's no reason to start a new thread to review Willink's SWC membership. We can do it here just as easily.

Personally, I feel that Willink's unprovoked attack on Arabanistan and firing upon two SWC allies, regardless of who fired first, merits immediate ejection from the Saharistan War Coalition. I don't know how the rest of you will view him from here on out, diplomatically speaking, but I know we're removing him from our list of allies. You're a neutral to us, Willink; we don't consider you an enemy, we just don't want anything to do with you. You acted contrary to the expected conduct of SWC members, and this is the consequence. No hard feelings, man (it's not as though I hate you now; I don't) but I just can't let you stay after what happened here.

Here, read the wonderful NSWiki article:
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Saharistan_War

And then for the actual SWC:
http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Saharistan_War_Coalition

OOC: As an aspiring history/international affairs major, your compliments on my Wiki make me very happy. The Wiki is a bit of a source of pride for me. I'm glad that people seem to think it's a good work.

OOC:

Oh my fuck! No new replies since I went to bed! Is there another thread I should know about?

Anyway, Willink is now on our watchlist, and is considered in the same group as Algeristan was before we invaded there.

Basically, his attacks against Leafanistan and I were unproked, basically because he was attacking anyone who didn't attack Arabanistan.

As said, my vote goes in the "leave" column.

OOC:

Oh my fuck! No new replies since I went to bed! Is there another thread I should know about?

Anyway, Willink is now on our watchlist, and is considered in the same group as Algeristan was before we invaded there.

Basically, his attacks against Leafanistan and I were unproked, basically because he was attacking anyone who didn't attack Arabanistan.

As said, my vote goes in the "leave" column.

OOC: We are all for the "get out of our alliance" option. This action could lead to war or at least strained relations.

OOC: Well under the category i've got him, if another nation attacks at him, and he so much as threatens to use military force, IMAF is cleared to launch strikes and the Navy is cleared to secure his waters.

So basically, if you declared war on him, there is a good chance that my Marines would beat you to shore.

OOC: Well under the category i've got him, if another nation attacks at him, and he so much as threatens to use military force, IMAF is cleared to launch strikes and the Navy is cleared to secure his waters.

So basically, if you declared war on him, there is a good chance that my Marines would beat you to shore.

OOC: Is that a challenge? ;)

IC:

To: All SWC Nations
Low-grade encryption
Decrypted.

Ministry of Foreign Relations

Following recent events and public outcry we feel it is appropriate to call for the eviction of the nation of Willink from the Saharistan War Coalition for his actions against McKagan and Leafanistani observation and peacekeeping forces in the Arabanistan Theatre. We do this with a heavy heart but it is necessary to preserve the peace between our nations.

-Minister of Foreign Relations

[END]

You can't still be arguing and threatening each other now.... has Arabanistan even posted within the last day?

You can't still be arguing and threatening each other now.... has Arabanistan even posted within the last day?

OOC: Of course we can, when Allied nations fire on each other over something else we have the right to be pissed and try to kick one another out of our alliance.

To: All SWC Nations
Low-grade encryption
Decrypted.

Ministry of Foreign Relations

Following recent events and public outcry we feel it is appropriate to call for the eviction of the nation of Willink from the Saharistan War Coalition for his actions against McKagan and Leafanistani observation and peacekeeping forces in the Arabanistan Theatre. We do this with a heavy heart but it is necessary to preserve the peace between our nations.

-Minister of Foreign Relations

[END]

Encrypted Reply

To: Leafanistani Minister of Foreign Relations, McKagan & Tannenmillian Departments of State
From: Kenix Kil, Sec. of State

Unfortunately, we must concur. Anti-Willink sentiment in the government and general populace has reached an all-time high, and the only way to sate the public's proverbial bloodlust is to support the removal of Willink from the Saharistan War Coalition. As the de facto founder of the Saharistan War Coalition, we have officially declared that Willink is no longer a member of the Saharistan War Coalition, and he is to be considered persona non grata by the remaining members.

End Encrypted Reply

OOC: Are we going to ask Willink to cede his Saharistan territory to the remaining members, or not? We can give it to Space Union, since he currently has no territory (remember, I divvied it up among us after we figured he was inactive).

Encrypted Reply

To: Leafanistani Minister of Foreign Relations, McKagan & Tannenmillian Departments of State
From: Kenix Kil, Sec. of State

Unfortunately, we must concur. Anti-Willink sentiment in the government and general populace has reached an all-time high, and the only way to sate the public's proverbial bloodlust is to support the removal of Willink from the Saharistan War Coalition. As the de facto founder of the Saharistan War Coalition, we have officially declared that Willink is no longer a member of the Saharistan War Coalition, and he is to be considered persona non grata by the remaining members.

End Encrypted Reply

Encrypted Reply
To: All SWC nations excluding Willink

We accept Halberdgardia's position and we no longer consider Willink a member of the Saharistan War Coalition. Let us hope this stabilizes the situation.

-Minister of Foreign Relations

[END]

Encrypted Message, Hal and Leaf

We agree he should be removed, so there is no argument here.

OOC: Yes Leaf, it is :p.

Who made it to Baghdad first in the Saharistan War?

Encrypted Message, Hal and Leaf

We agree he should be removed, so there is no argument here.

OOC: Yes Leaf, it is :p.

Who made it to Baghdad first in the Saharistan War?

OOC: I bombed it first, but I didn't actually capture it. Actually, I don't think anyone captured Baghdad; you and I just bombed it to shit, and then the nukes started to fly, so we basically had to rebuild it from the ground up.

OOC: I bombed it first, but I didn't actually capture it. Actually, I don't think anyone captured Baghdad; you and I just bombed it to shit, and then the nukes started to fly, so we basically had to rebuild it from the ground up.

OOC: God dammit, I just realized i've not got to burn anything down yet! Hey, if we go to war with anyone else (possibly Willink, I dunno), can you guys let me have his capital first? PLEASE. I've not used that tactic since the Saharistan war! I've even got a whole new plane for it!

OOC: Declare war on WIllink? Sounds good...

OOC: No. No war with Willink. Ejection from the SWC and strained relations are bad enough. I don't want an SWC/Willink war. Just leave him be. But, McKagan, if another Saharistan puppet ever shows up with threats of war, I'll let you napalm his capitol first...

OOC: No. No war with Willink. Ejection from the SWC and strained relations are bad enough. I don't want an SWC/Willink war. Just leave him be. But, McKagan, if another Saharistan puppet ever shows up with threats of war, I'll let you napalm his capitol first...

I don't know if I want to do that though, I like being his ally, I dunno.

God dammit, i've not got to blow anything up with my BIG, SHINNY navy... :p

Edit: Besides a small island fortress.

The Battle of the Thermometers (and this, Funniest Battle, EVER) (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/The_Battle_of_the_Thermometers)

I don't know if I want to do that though, I like being his ally, I dunno.

God dammit, i've not got to blow anything up with my BIG, SHINNY navy... :p

Edit: Besides a small island fortress.

The Battle of the Thermometers (and this, Funniest Battle, EVER) (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/The_Battle_of_the_Thermometers)

There's a war in the Freman empire, I'm personally involved, so consider yourself invited if you want to join.

There's a war in the Freman empire, I'm personally involved, so consider yourself invited if you want to join.

Ground war or naval war? Air? All?

Link me, I'll see.

It might help the newbies around here too, the last time I engaged a n00b (read that Wiki!), he lost 1/2 his navy to one of my Corvettes. :p

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440608 (http://)

I assume that it's all theatres of war, and If you want to help a n00b, help me, I escalated a conventional war into a nucleur war in under 20 posts. :(

OOC: I bombed it first, but I didn't actually capture it. Actually, I don't think anyone captured Baghdad; you and I just bombed it to shit, and then the nukes started to fly, so we basically had to rebuild it from the ground up.

OOC-
If i remember right i was the first to invade him, and i am 100 % sure I created the coalition with the thread "Coalition against Saharistan" just after i got nuked,( even remember the first person to join it was Space union).

Willink Refuses to give up its land in Saharistan, after so much money has been poured into the reconstruciton of Port arther, and that the goverments decision does not always represent the populace. (I got to baghdad with Halbergardia at the same time and started building a shitload of naval bases.)

Willink accepts the exjection from the SWC, and now relations between Mckagen and Leafanistan are In Mckagens case hostile, and Sour with leafanistan.

Encrypted Reply

To: Leafanistani Minister of Foreign Relations, McKagan & Tannenmillian Departments of State
From: Kenix Kil, Sec. of State

Unfortunately, we must concur. Anti-Willink sentiment in the government and general populace has reached an all-time high, and the only way to sate the public's proverbial bloodlust is to support the removal of Willink from the Saharistan War Coalition. As the de facto founder of the Saharistan War Coalition, we have officially declared that Willink is no longer a member of the Saharistan War Coalition, and he is to be considered persona non grata by the remaining members.

End Encrypted Reply

Encrypted Reply

From: Desk of Tannenmillian Saharistan Provinzführer Mark Goldfetter
To: Kenix Kil, Halberdgardian Secretary of State

The Provinzstag of Saharistan has voted and comes to the same conclusion that you have come to yourself. As of today, Willink is not viewed as an ally of the Sucellan Governance and any Willink ambassadors with diplomatic passports will have those passports and all benefits granted by them revoked immediately. It is unfortunate that it has come to this, but it has.

Provinzführer Mark Goldfetter

May i remind you that Willink never fired a shot in anger against Leafanistan.

May i remind you that Willink never fired a shot in anger against Leafanistan.

Really? Don't try to lie/godmod your way out of it once you realize people have turned on you. That's being like FishCaks. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9522929&postcount=185)

Really? Don't try to lie/godmod your way out of it once you realize people have turned on you. That's being like FishCaks. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9522929&postcount=185)


Im not lieing, you should stop complaining, I fired at the port to disable it, and killed 3 Leafanistani merchant marines. (His ships were on the way there, how does a cruise missile at mach 2 get outrun bu a 25 knot cargo ship ?) After which he sank 2 Willink Frigates on a strike (Hell, Arabanstan was the one who said the 3 guys were killed, so he was godmodding someone elses losses.)

Really? Don't try to lie/godmod your way out of it once you realize people have turned on you. That's being like FishCaks. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9522929&postcount=185)


Forgot about that, but it was still after his attack on my fleet..

[QUOTE=Willink]Im not lieing, you should stop complaining[QUOTE]

LOL

How many people have told you to do the same?

Anyway, i'm going back to read the part of the thread from before I posted, so give me a minute.

Ok, so, after reading the earlier part of the thread, I still feel basically the same.

To me, it looks like this.

Leafanistan ships stuff to Arabanistani port.

You fire on that port.

People die.

The commander of Leafs task force hastily fires off retaliation shots, as any good one would.

You, smartly, do not fire back, because he's an ally.

Leaf says sorry, cease fire between the two.

After all this happened, you decided to fire on Leafanistan, unprovoked, again. But he didn't get to respond because of the fast pace that was present in this thread earlier.

[QUOTE=Willink]Im not lieing, you should stop complaining[QUOTE]

LOL

How many people have told you to do the same?

Anyway, i'm going back to read the part of the thread from before I posted, so give me a minute.


Here- http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9521666&postcount=26

and here- http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9521762&postcount=30

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9522250&postcount=85

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9522682&postcount=144

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9522682&postcount=144

Notice that i never Openly said i fired at Leafanistan, just like your attack on VSI. Notice how my subs never attacked his fleet. And that the missile's launched could have been Mine, kjata major or anyones elese for that matter.

It's not very hard to trace where a missile was fired from.

Now, I know the same could be said for subs, but there is a difference.

1, your fleets had been talking to each other. 2, if they hadn't, satellites could easily read the name on the side of the ship and run it through a database.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9522250&postcount=85

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9522682&postcount=144

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9522682&postcount=144

Notice that i never Openly said i fired at Leafanistan, just like your attack on VSI. Notice how my subs never attacked his fleet. And that the missile's launched could have been Mine, kjata major or anyones elese for that matter.


So what was this?
... willinks 2 virgina class attack subs launched off 8 Scramjet missiles at the Leafanistani fleet. ...

Yap....Willink why do you deny it still..we ALL know you did it. Not that hard to check a post.

OOC: Because he wants to be cleared from all blame. At least Spizania had the guts to admit he attacked my ship. Or at least I think he did, hard to tell from his posts...

OOC: ok...the break down from MY point of view since we didn't fire on ANYONE..

Willink opened up on the Port, somehow, Leafys Cagoships outran a cruise missile acording to Arabanistan who said three of leafys people were killed (I point out leafy specifically said they were unmanned when they set out), people adapted to Arabanistans godmod, Leafy fired at Willink (so technically leafy was teh first to open fire on an ally since Willink was unintentional at most and not even sure how that happened). Willink fired back leafy never returned fired due to the fast pace, and this did move very fast.

this is where it all gets hazy, McKagan opened fire on Willink for firing at leafy, SkyCapt's ship was then fired upon by Spizania who Willink told to cease fire until SkyCapt returned fire. McKagan then fired nukes at VSI and Castle. Arabinstan meanwhile sits back and watchs the allies tear into each other as McKagan (who's not SWC as far as I can tell) and Willink exhange fire. conflict escolates into a nuclear incident..I don't need to go on. in short, plenty of blaim to go around in my opinion, the only really winner here is Arabanistan who's split apart allies which was perhaps the whole point of creating the flashpoint of this war.

my two pence

OOC: ok...the break down from MY point of view since we didn't fire on ANYONE..

Willink opened up on the Port, somehow, Leafys Cagoships outran a cruise missile acording to Arabanistan who said three of leafys people were killed (I point out leafy specifically said they were unmanned when they set out), people adapted to Arabanistans godmod, Leafy fired at Willink (so technically leafy was teh first to open fire on an ally since Willink was unintentional at most and not even sure how that happened). Willink fired back leafy never returned fired due to the fast pace, and this did move very fast.

this is where it all gets hazy, McKagan opened fire on Willink for firing at leafy, SkyCapt's ship was then fired upon by Spizania who Willink told to cease fire until SkyCapt returned fire. McKagan then fired nukes at VSI and Castle. Arabinstan meanwhile sits back and watchs the allies tear into each other as McKagan (who's not SWC as far as I can tell) and Willink exhange fire. conflict escolates into a nuclear incident..I don't need to go on. in short, plenty of blaim to go around in my opinion, the only really winner here is Arabanistan who's split apart allies which was perhaps the whole point of creating the flashpoint of this war.

my two pence


Thank you, I now blame Arabanistan, and i cant tell What Spizania did, because he misspelled every other word.

OOC: ok...the break down from MY point of view since we didn't fire on ANYONE..

Willink opened up on the Port, somehow, Leafys Cagoships outran a cruise missile acording to Arabanistan who said three of leafys people were killed (I point out leafy specifically said they were unmanned when they set out), people adapted to Arabanistans godmod, Leafy fired at Willink (so technically leafy was teh first to open fire on an ally since Willink was unintentional at most and not even sure how that happened). Willink fired back leafy never returned fired due to the fast pace, and this did move very fast.

this is where it all gets hazy, McKagan opened fire on Willink for firing at leafy, SkyCapt's ship was then fired upon by Spizania who Willink told to cease fire until SkyCapt returned fire. McKagan then fired nukes at VSI and Castle. Arabinstan meanwhile sits back and watchs the allies tear into each other as McKagan (who's not SWC as far as I can tell) and Willink exhange fire. conflict escolates into a nuclear incident..I don't need to go on. in short, plenty of blaim to go around in my opinion, the only really winner here is Arabanistan who's split apart allies which was perhaps the whole point of creating the flashpoint of this war.

my two pence

I am in the SWC, for a while I was one of the only active members of the SWC in this storyarc.

Anyway, it doesn't matter now, majority vote.

Anyway, it doesn't matter now, majority vote.

That wasnt the point of the post.

I think China won World War 2.

IC

The main naval force has left the waters outside Arabanistan. While the surface fleet has began it's pullout, 10 Cobalt Class Attack Submarines are still in the direct territorial waters, and 10 more are on reserve standby. These forces are simply for security, to prevent any larger nation from taking advantage of Arabanistan while it's rebuilding. The subs are at maximum depth, permanatly, to avoid any prestrike, and are operating under radio silence. While ALL of the vessels ARE NOT equiped with nuclear weaponry, several warheads have been moved throughout the wing.

(OOC: I want to ask everyones opinions on this. I'm proud of what i've imagined for the Cobalt design, but I've got a problem. I want them to be my main sub from here on out, so I've got it scheduled for a massive 1000 vessel run. Now, I'm not saying i've got all of these vessels completed, and I'm not doing it all in one year, but theoretically, it COULD be done, over time, right?)

IC



(OOC: I want to ask everyones opinions on this. I'm proud of what i've imagined for the Cobalt design, but I've got a problem. I want them to be my main sub from here on out, so I've got it scheduled for a massive 1000 vessel run. Now, I'm not saying i've got all of these vessels completed, and I'm not doing it all in one year, but theoretically, it COULD be done, over time, right?)

It is possible, but would take several years (10-15) and the cost would be Astronomical.

It is possible, but would take several years (10-15) and the cost would be Astronomical.

It's rather expensive, starting between 2.5 billion and 3 billion, but towards the end of the production run it should drop off as production becomes easier.

It's just a few trillion dollars, and I could ALMOST cover it in one year, but my soldiers have to eat, so I'd rather not.

OOC: My cargo ships are automated, not unmanned. If I confused that distinction I'm sorry. They are usually manned by a crew of 3 called "handlers" with a computer doing most of the work and the 3 being the bare minimum in case of a massive computer error. For arms freighters crew are required to prevent pirate raids, for lesser freighters no people are required, for oil tankers no crew are also required. Its a complex law system I pointed out because my cargo ships are a constant source of enterainment for your missiles.

OOC: My cargo ships are automated, not unmanned. If I confused that distinction I'm sorry. They are usually manned by a crew of 3 called "handlers" with a computer doing most of the work and the 3 being the bare minimum in case of a massive computer error. For arms freighters crew are required to prevent pirate raids, for lesser freighters no people are required, for oil tankers no crew are also required. Its a complex law system I pointed out because my cargo ships are a constant source of enterainment for your missiles.

Even with the limitless supply of oil here on NS, what with those TDP plants and massive magical reserves of, just about everything, that never dry up

I think I’d still guard my oil vessels, you don’t want some unknown force hijacking it. I’m sure after the 1st one, you’d find and punish the culprit, no problem, but, that’s quite the profit loss, there…and a pirates dream, yharr, lotsa treasure in that there black gold, ya know matey?

Even with the limitless supply of oil here on NS, what with those TDP plants and massive magical reserves of, just about everything, that never dry up

I think I’d still guard my oil vessels, you don’t want some unknown force hijacking it. I’m sure after the 1st one, you’d find and punish the culprit, no problem, but, that’s quite the profit loss, there…and a pirates dream, yharr, lotsa treasure in that there black gold, ya know matey?

OOC: You know those pirate RPs that didn't really go far? My oil vessels were supposed to be unguarded for that and I just never changed it. Until there is a hijacking all civilian ones will probably remain unguarded.

OOC: You know those pirate RPs that didn't really go far? My oil vessels were supposed to be unguarded for that and I just never changed it. Until there is a hijacking all civilian ones will probably remain unguarded.

Makes sense. Why fix it if it isnt broken, till it is broken :)

Official Imperial Statment:

We wish it to be known that anyone who has hostilities with Willink has hostilities with us. If any nation declared war upon them, they shall find themselves eaten by our armies.

OOC: You know those pirate RPs that didn't really go far? My oil vessels were supposed to be unguarded for that and I just never changed it. Until there is a hijacking all civilian ones will probably remain unguarded.

OOC: Global Jihad, are you listening? :p

OOC: Global Jihad, are you listening? :p

In 24 hours a Leafanistani oil tanker will be hijacked and turned into a bomb.

In 24 hours a Leafanistani oil tanker will be hijacked and turned into a bomb.

OOC: Thank God it has no manual controls and uses a Linux powered fiber-optic computer to steer. It couldn't be that hard to sink it right?

OOC: Thank God it has no manual controls and uses a Linux powered fiber-optic computer to steer. It couldn't be that hard to sink it right?

They wouldn't have to turn it.

Just kill the crew and ride it into the designated port with a few hundred pounds of C4 aboard.

They wouldn't have to turn it.

Just kill the crew and ride it into the designated port with a few hundred pounds of C4 aboard.

OOC: I spend waaaaay too much on defending myself and making my nation pretty much closed. Did you know in Leafanistan there are only 2 cities that are "open", New Meiji City and the Sierra Visions Inc. Campus and surrounding suburbs. Its like the Soviet Union but with more paranoia. That ship will be sunken but not before a cool kickass explosion at least. Or I'll lose a ship!

OOC: I spend waaaaay too much on defending myself and making my nation pretty much closed. Did you know in Leafanistan there are only 2 cities that are "open", New Meiji City and the Sierra Visions Inc. Campus and surrounding suburbs. Its like the Soviet Union but with more paranoia. That ship will be sunken but not before a cool kickass explosion at least. Or I'll lose a ship!

Well in a boarding raid that either knocks the crew out before they report anything or even notice, that ship would appear normal heading into a port.

Well in a boarding raid that either knocks the crew out before they report anything or even notice, that ship would appear normal heading into a port.

OOC: Like the US Coast Guard, no oil tanker is allowed in Leafanistani waters without a through inspection or else it is turned away. I'm sorry I thought things out so hard. But I'm sure it can't be that hard to pick on a relaxed Coast Guard.

OOC: Is it safe for me to unsubscribe from this?