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Commonwealth Clean Energies Corp. (Hydrogen for sale)

National Commonwealth
26-08-2005, 02:59
Commonwealth Clean Energies Corp.

CCEC has recognized that the international community is being submerged into a deep and dark, thick sea dominated by oil. What happens when the supply runs out, prices skyrocket, and your nation is still dependent? We have a solution. The CCEC is now publicly offering its production of Hydrogen gas as an alternative to oil and fossil-fuel based energy supplies.

Clean, effecient, and relatively cheap, our Hydrogen is produced at 50 different facilities located primarily in National Commonwealth. We use a process we call the HydrogenL system (Hydrogen-Low-Cost).

Benefits of Hydrogen:

*Hydrogen has the highest energy content per unit of weight of any known fuel.

*When burned in an engine, hydrogen produces effectively zero emissions; when powering a fuel cell, its only by-product is pure water.

*Renewable- and nuclear-based hydrogen production technologies offer the promise of zero emissions. With proven carbon capture and storage technologies, hydrogen production using our Nation's abundant coal resources will also make a carbon emissions-free future possible.


Supply Per Day: 568.65 Million Gallons
Price Per Gallon: $1.19

CCEC Stock is Available!
Commonwealth Clean Energies Corp. is an independent company based in Triantistraum, RNC.

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Otagia
26-08-2005, 03:02
Otagia applauds the CCEC, and wishes to acquire a contract to obtain additional hydrogen for our nations increasing automobile use. As Otagian laws forbid civilian use of petroleum powered vehicles, hydrogen is vital to our economy. We request a contract for 50,000,000 gallons a day to suppliment our local production.
Mondoth
26-08-2005, 03:09
Mondoth, having invested much money and time into Hydrogen projects recently (for our new FMCV type naval vessles that promise to revolutionize naval warfare and for various 'clean living' initiatives including hydrogen power plants and fuel cell powered cars.) Wouldlike to know the details of your process, is it an electrolytic process (hydrogen from water), a natural gas one (hydrogen from burning natural gas) or some other form of Hydrogen farming and would like to ask if you are interested in our new electrolyitic process that enables a properly equiped conversion plant to transform saltwater to Hydrogen and Oxygen efficiently and at a very reasonable price. We would be willing to sell the designs and rights for this process at a reasonable price.
National Commonwealth
26-08-2005, 03:09
Otagia applauds the CCEC, and wishes to acquire a contract to obtain additional hydrogen for our nations increasing automobile use. As Otagian laws forbid civilian use of petroleum powered vehicles, hydrogen is vital to our economy. We request a contract for 50,000,000 gallons a day to suppliment our local production.

Thank you! Your order is confirmed and we will begin shipmments right away ($59,500,000/day). And so that you know you will never have to worry about supply, we also plan to invest money into our production lines so that we can increase our output.

Thanks again,

CCEC, Sales Representative
The Candrian Empire
26-08-2005, 03:15
OCC: Do you sell deuterium (however it's spelled, heavy hydrogen)?
National Commonwealth
26-08-2005, 03:17
Mondoth, having invested much money and time into Hydrogen projects recently (for our new FMCV type naval vessles that promise to revolutionize naval warfare and for various 'clean living' initiatives including hydrogen power plants and fuel cell powered cars.) Wouldlike to know the details of your process, is it an electrolytic process (hydrogen from water), a natural gas one (hydrogen from burning natural gas) or some other form of Hydrogen farming and would like to ask if you are interested in our new electrolyitic process that enables a properly equiped conversion plant to transform saltwater to Hydrogen and Oxygen efficiently and at a very reasonable price. We would be willing to sell the designs and rights for this process at a reasonable price.

Our HydrogenL Process is based on an inexpensive technique called Aqueous-Phase Reforming (APR), a fancy name for converting plant byproducts into hydrogen. Our facilities include greenhouses and clean compost processing centers. The process performs as well as current methods that use precious metals such as platinum, yet runs at lower temperatures and is much cleaner.

We would certainly be interested in learning more about your electrolyitic process!

Thank You
National Commonwealth
26-08-2005, 03:20
OCC: Do you sell deuterium (however it's spelled, heavy hydrogen)?

Currently, we have the ability to produce it for you! Please tell us what quantity you are looking for. We also inquire what use you intend it for, as it could cost substantially more and has few pratical applications (other than fusion).

CCEC, Sales Representative
National Commonwealth
26-08-2005, 03:52
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National Commonwealth
27-08-2005, 04:23
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Mondoth
27-08-2005, 06:59
Our Electrolytic process uses the inherent charge and properties of the salt compounds in sea water, coupled with a slight electric current (usually provided by batteries, geothermal or solar energy, or hydrogen obtained by running this processoff of nuclear, geothermal or solar electricity) to seperate the Hydrogen and Oxygen molecuels into a pair of ready to use gasses (the gasses are actually seperated by the process so no filtration is required) perfect for use in Oxygen boosted Hydrogen Fuel cells. the exhaust from these cell (pure water) can even be used as drinking water, so communities surrounded by sea water with no viable clean water source can obtain electricity and drinking water from the same 'fuel cell stack' our process requires no exatic materials, just a basic steel/tungsten alloy for the 'anodes' (exact alloy mix is proprietary informations but we would be willing to share...for a price) This system follows a long line of electrolytic hydrogen/oxygen seperators that have been under developement almost since electricity was made practical and uses a new understanding of certain chemical processes to create a low cost, low mantenance system.
National Commonwealth
27-08-2005, 23:40
Our Electrolytic process uses the inherent charge and properties of the salt compounds in sea water, coupled with a slight electric current (usually provided by batteries, geothermal or solar energy, or hydrogen obtained by running this processoff of nuclear, geothermal or solar electricity) to seperate the Hydrogen and Oxygen molecuels into a pair of ready to use gasses (the gasses are actually seperated by the process so no filtration is required) perfect for use in Oxygen boosted Hydrogen Fuel cells. the exhaust from these cell (pure water) can even be used as drinking water, so communities surrounded by sea water with no viable clean water source can obtain electricity and drinking water from the same 'fuel cell stack' our process requires no exatic materials, just a basic steel/tungsten alloy for the 'anodes' (exact alloy mix is proprietary informations but we would be willing to share...for a price) This system follows a long line of electrolytic hydrogen/oxygen seperators that have been under developement almost since electricity was made practical and uses a new understanding of certain chemical processes to create a low cost, low mantenance system.
CCEC is impressed with the Electrolytic process and inquires how much it would cost to buy the rights to the technology and/or various assets and research and development centers that currently have the ability to produce Hydrogen through that process. Currently, our process, although effecient is rather limited in output and speed, so we would be willing to pay a good amount for an increased business.

Thank you,

Lionel Corvay, Purchasing Agent
-CCEC, R & D
Mondoth
30-08-2005, 03:11
we would be willing to sell rights to construct and market our process for an initial offer of 30 million USD. Additionally we can establish our own extraction and prcessing facilities in your nation fo a portion of the proceeds generated by hydrgen produced at these 'plants'
Verdant Archipelago
30-08-2005, 03:50
OOC:

Mondoth, you can't produce hydrogen using hydrogen to power the process. That's anti-entropic... it takes more hydrogen to make the hydrogen. Energy sink. Electrolysis is a dead end in moderntech, it's far too inefficient and I can't think of a single way to improve it. Once again, it takes more energy to pull appart two hydrogens and an oxygen than energy is releaced by the reformation of water. Anything else is anti-entropic and against the laws of the universe. Also, using electrolysis on saltwater tends to produce nasty byproducts like chlorine gas and also corrodes the anodes and cathodes.

National Commonwealth, while hydrogen has excelent energy density by mass, you have neglected to inform everyone of it's absolutely pitiful density by volume. I have no doubt that you know the problems, but many of the others on NS don't, and if you don't explain all the problems in your initial post, we will be seeing yet another outbreak of hydrogen powered tanks, aircraft, and ships. The ships, of course, use power from burning the hydrogen to make more hydrogen to burn in a chain reaction that would be excelent if it weren't impossible. Using reformed hydrogen from coal to power small, light, inner city cars is totally different and fine, but NOT ok for tanks.