NationStates Jolt Archive

P17 Pistol

The P17 is the new standard pistol for the Armed Forces, replacing the old M45 pistol. The P17 will be available in .45ACP like the old M45, and in line with the line of thoughts that say that the modern battlefield need a larger and more effective round, and they have found it in the .45 ACP round, which provides better power and accuracy than the old 9 x 19 mm round.

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Caliber: .45APC [A1]
Action: Double Action
Fire Mode: Semi-auto [A1]
Overall Length: 186 millimeters
Barrel Length: 117 millimeters
Weight: 0,9 kgs [A1]
Magazine: 14 rounds [A1]
Rate of Fire: N/A
Shell: Standard Ball
Effective Range: 150 meters
Muzzle Velocity: 340 meters per second [A1]
Underwater Shoot: Yes
Chamber Pressure: 23,000 psi [A1]
Equippment Availabilities: Silencer, laser, flashlight
Cost: $600 [A1]
Service Life: 25,000 rounds

Has it been tested? No matter, we will take 2 for evaluation.

Yes, they have been thurroughly tested and found to be much better than the old M45 in most areas, which in turn was substantially better than the M1911A3 it replaced. Two pistols have been sent to your nation, free of charge due to the small number of weapons, along with a crate of .45APC ammunition. Please let us know how the testing went.

Testing completed.
Outperformed our old Makarovs in following classes:
Durability.
Accuracy.
Carriability.
Power.

We would like to completely refit our nations officer core and so we are ordering 500,500.
Cost is: $300300000
Money wired upon confirmation

Confirmed. Our weapons factories are currently working overtime to finish your order within six (NS) months (OOC: 12 RL hours).

Thankyou, pleasure doing business with you, hope to do it again sometime. Btw, do you do snipers? I have recently finished my first model the HSR Mk I

Greetings Noble Arms-dealer,

I would like to purchase five thousand of these pistols. Out of curiousity, do they come with rubber bullets? Our SDE's have a no kill policy until criminals can undergo proper, public execution. As such rubber bullets are a must, we do not want anyone dying too early if we can avoid.

Faithfully,
Sir Voran Kortz,
Minister for Social Defense.

Eurasia and Oceana will take 10,000 pistols if the supplier so permits. The Red Army of Eurasia and Oceana is, how shall I put this, short of money at the moment, and therefore a sturdy pistol is needed for to train our new recruits before a suitable rifle is developed.

Greetings

The Imppunistan (DPR) goverment would order 100,000 of these weapons.
We would be also interested of buying magazines that can hold 20 (twenty) .45 ACP rounds.
A cargoplane will be sent to collect the arms and deliver the payment upon confirmation.

Jacques Frederickson
Imppunistan Security Counsil.

I feel that 600$ for a pistol is way to exspensive for my nation. Our bulk of our nation still uses Ak-74's as there main assualt wepoen. For our side arm, we use the old faithfull mak75. But we do have a strong special forces(125,000) that carry the AK-107/108. But we lack a modern pistol for our special forces.

The United Socialist States of Russia an East Europe will not go to war any time soon with any nation. But to maintain the sphere of influence in our smaller states, we need to have a strong militery. So, The United Socialist States of Russia an East Europe will buy 100 P17 Pistol for now, and give it to our commandos.

100x$600= $60,000 USD.

Aleksander Alexivich- Dictator of The United Socialist States of Russia an East Europe

Greetings Noble Arms-dealer,

I would like to purchase five thousand of these pistols. Out of curiousity, do they come with rubber bullets? Our SDE's have a no kill policy until criminals can undergo proper, public execution. As such rubber bullets are a must, we do not want anyone dying too early if we can avoid.

Faithfully,
Sir Voran Kortz,
Minister for Social Defense.

Confirmed. And yes, if you can produce rubber bullets in caliber .45, then you can use them in the P17. Expect final delivery in 4 NS months.

Eurasia and Oceana will take 10,000 pistols if the supplier so permits. The Red Army of Eurasia and Oceana is, how shall I put this, short of money at the moment, and therefore a sturdy pistol is needed for to train our new recruits before a suitable rifle is developed.

Order confirmed. Expect final delivery in six NS months.


Greetings

The Imppunistan (DPR) goverment would order 100,000 of these weapons.
We would be also interested of buying magazines that can hold 20 (twenty) .45 ACP rounds.
A cargoplane will be sent to collect the arms and deliver the payment upon confirmation.

Jacques Frederickson
Imppunistan Security Counsil.

Confirmed. Final delivery for the 100,000 P17-units will be in one NS year.

We do not currently have magazines that can fit 20 rounds, but the request have been lodged to the research division, which confirms the possibility of making 20 round magazines. They will however take more time and money to make, with the projected time for final delivery for the magazines in a year. The price will be $50 per magazine. Do you wish for us to start production?

I feel that 600$ for a pistol is way to exspensive for my nation. Our bulk of our nation still uses Ak-74's as there main assualt wepoen. For our side arm, we use the old faithfull mak75. But we do have a strong special forces(125,000) that carry the AK-107/108. But we lack a modern pistol for our special forces.

The United Socialist States of Russia an East Europe will not go to war any time soon with any nation. But to maintain the sphere of influence in our smaller states, we need to have a strong militery. So, The United Socialist States of Russia an East Europe will buy 100 P17 Pistol for now, and give it to our commandos.

100x$600= $60,000 USD.

Aleksander Alexivich- Dictator of The United Socialist States of Russia an East Europe

Order confirmed. Expect final delivery in a NS week.

Actually, I was intending for your company to manufacture and send the rubber bullets along with the guns.

That may be possible, if you are willing to pay the price. $1,500 per crate containing 2000 rounds of rubber bullets + shipping costs. That's the offer.

That is an unacceptable price, as such we shall produce the rubber ammunition ourselves. We shall await the order and pay you can extra twenty thousand USD if you can have them here in half the time.

Faithfully,
Sir Voran Kortz,
Minister for Social Defense.

We'll work overtime to make the new deadline. The workers will get a nice raise this time...

The Zarlon government will take 1000 of these new pistols for our security forces
I believe the cost is 600,000 USD unless i am mistaken, we would appreciate any effort to make a hurried delivery, we are having some moderate security issues and we could really use those new pistols ASAP

Sinerian Hopeshot
President of the Democratic States of Zarlon

Confirmed. Expect final delivery in two NS months.

Yes, start the production.
I hope you accept our payment method, which is half now and the rest when you are ready? Good.
We shall send a plane carrying 35 000 000 dollars to the capital of Cotland ASAP. We shall also ready our cargo planes and the rest of the money(35 000 000 dollars)


Jacques Frederickson
Imppunistan Security Counsil.

Confirmed. As said previously, the final delivery will be in a year.

May a please make a special order? I want one gold P-17 with my name in-graved in it. For the name, please put "Aleksander Alexivich"

Will this be possible?

Money is not a problem, and i want this pistol to be made of the best quaility. Plus, I request 1,000 gold bullets of .45 calibor to come with my gold P17.

Thank you, Aleksander Alexivich- Dictator of Russia an east europe

Nice, but We will keep the SA12, it's prefferred, as it can accept a bayonet.

No, I don't know why we have pistols that accept bayonets. The Specialists like them for some reason. And who am I do argue with the specialists.

The specialists are the name given to our special forces, by the way.

May a please make a special order? I want one gold P-17 with my name in-graved in it. For the name, please put "Aleksander Alexivich"

Will this be possible?

Money is not a problem, and i want this pistol to be made of the best quaility. Plus, I request 1,000 gold bullets of .45 calibor to come with my gold P17.

Thank you, Aleksander Alexivich- Dictator of Russia an east europe
Well, if you provide the gold, we'll make the gun. It'll be $24,000 for the weapon, and an additional $10,000 for the ammunition (we have to enlist goldsmiths for making this weapon and ammunition). Once the gold is provided, it'll take the goldsmiths roughly four weeks to make the gun. Then, an additional week for a skilled goldsmith to engrave the name into the gun. It'll be engraved on the left side of the slide, if that's no problem. Then, we'll send it to your country in a military C-21B Learjet accompanied by four Special Forces soldiers.

Well, if you provide the gold, we'll make the gun. It'll be $24,000 for the weapon, and an additional $10,000 for the ammunition (we have to enlist goldsmiths for making this weapon and ammunition). Once the gold is provided, it'll take the goldsmiths roughly four weeks to make the gun. Then, an additional week for a skilled goldsmith to engrave the name into the gun. It'll be engraved on the left side of the slide, if that's no problem. Then, we'll send it to your country in a military C-21B Learjet accompanied by four Special Forces soldiers.
I am very satisfied on what you said.

I will wire your national bank $60,000 USD for the 600 P17 Guns from my national bank. Allso, I will send $34,000 USD from my privite bank acount too pay for the Gold P17, and the gold bullets to go with it. Feel free to visit my palace any time, I enjoy doing buisness with you. Feel free to messege me personly on any new products your nation has to offer :)

Thank you, Aleksander Alexivich- Dictator of The United Socialist States of Russia an East Europe

Russia and East Europer, as we are spreading the word of our new Sniper Rifles, We would glady send you 10 rifles and sufficient ammunition, I will post the statts later, please tell us how it goes, if you accept our offer that is.

HSR Mk. 1
Comes with bipod and 2 Lightweight zoom-adjustable scopes: Normal and Thermal. (Zoom adjustable from 6x to 14x)

Cartridge: .338 Lapua

Dimensions:
Length: 1100mm
Weight: 30kg
Barrel: 700mm
Magazine Capacity: 8 Rounds

EVALUATION REPORT

Subject: HSR Mk. 1 Sniper rifle
Tester: SSGT J. Danielsen (Senior Instructor, Army Sniper Training Facility)

Following a week of intensive testing of the subject "HSR Mk. 1" snipers rifle, I have discovered that the weapon is

(a) far too heavy for effective combat
(b) fires a unconventional and insufficiently tested round
(c) has a too low magazine capacity when one looks at the weight and size

Therefore, my conclusion and recommendation is that the Army should not purchase the "HSR Mk. 1".

[signed]
SSGT Jon Danielsen

Thankyou for your c.c, we will adapt accoridngly.