NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: First factbook please tell me your comments and what i could do to im prove.

IC: Many years ago in 1910 one of our greatest revolutionaries Emiliano Zapata fought to improve conditions for Mexicans and to help Mexico gain economic stability. Slowly he reconquered the lands and finally acheived control of the capital with this he set a plan in motion to improve the economy and raise the public's living standards. Within 3 years he was able to finally stabalize what was once the most unstabalized economy in the world. In 5 years the Mexican people had achieved a 4% poverty rate due to the increase of factories and agricultural productiion. Soon this once uncivilized nation of of rebels was to become a great military and economic power.

Name: The Dominion of GuevaraZapataVilla (Name is derived from 2 of the most influential characters in Mexican history Emiliano Zapata and Francisco "Pancho" Villa. The third name but shown first is of Ernesto "Che" Guevara who is not a major character in Mexican history but played a important roll in Latin American History. There are many others influential characters in both Mexican and Latin American history but these were some of the most highly ranked within a public poll.)

National Motto: "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" ( Latin for "None attack me without punishment/Impunity this was decided since before the revolution the peasants and the "lower" class were constantly harrased and made fun of so finally they struck back in several decisive blows.)

Population: 249 Million Census 2005 ( A certain amount may not be accounted for due to certain poverty in many of the southren areas)

Establishment: July 13th 1910 a day after the Battle of Quijote which marked the final collapse of the corrupt government and their troops.

Capital: Gueza Villa 120 miles south of Abilote and 30 miles west of Santolina.

Major cities: Gueza Villa-Mariposa-Conexcio

Demographics: 97% Mexican (Spanish and Portugese Decent) 2% European ( Some cam over with the Spanish and Portugese to seek weallth)1% Asian( Due to a small influx of Asian during a period between 1899 and 1901)

Natural Resources: Oil-Silver-Copper-Gems

Exports: Machinery, Automotives ,and Agricultural supplies & Crops

Imports: Textiles and Technology

Military: 24 Million Regulars and Reservists
19 Million Well-Trained Full service troops
Armored Strength-3 Million Regulars with well modernized vehicles
Air Force-2 million regulars modernized airplanes most from Russia
Naval Force-3 million regulars modernized ships from several arms manufacturing countries

State Statistics:
Running Clean Water: 96%
Electricity: 98%
Rural Areas:69%
Metropolitan Areas: 29%
Uninhabitad/Un-Constructable Areas: 2%

Currency:
The Liberatd (Name was given to the national currency due to a public vote the name translates into Liberty since the Mexican peasants that had been opressed for so long fought for there Liberty the name was given to the currency.

National Animal: The Jungle Foul ( This animal was picked due its lack of fear it will fight long and hard even if it is outnumbered and the even if the attacker is clearly bigger and the victor.)

OOC: Ill be adding more as i attaain (think of) more resources, statistics, and other information to put on the chart please tell me what you think ill be more than glad to answer your questions and so on

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(OOC: Well, I can't really make a good comment on this as it seems pretty far from completion. Although it seems so far so good. Like you mentioned, there's still quite a lot could be added.

Classifying everything in your military kinda leaves things to mysterious. You don't have to list every detail, but at least, something, would be nicer, and far more informative than "Classified.")

OOC: Oh okie so expose some things but leave others in the shadows anyways thanks for the comment and yea its far from done but im currently thinking up more additions

OOC: Slight problem I'd like to point-out before someone comes along to call you a n00b or something else insulting: your military seems to be significantly over optimistic. You appear to have a little shy of 10% of the population accounted for in the military, seemingly as well-trained army or else navy and air force personnel. That's way over the top... I think something like twice North Korea's level of militarisation, which, I think you'll agree, is not really workable.

In reality, most nations have far less than one in every hundred citizens in the regular military, not close to one in ten, and even extreme cases that tend to coincide with under-investment elsewhere and with poor training standards the levels are unlikely to be sustained at anywhere near one in twenty.

I hope you don't mind the long post, but I think it might be helpful for me to say more. In Beth Gellert, a left-socialist/anarchist society, all able comrades are enroled in the Commonwealth Guard, following the Parisian National Guard of 1871, but these are not regular soldiers, nor are they paid, they are merely citizens with access to arms and to training opportunities (but not requirements). That is workable, but not to everyone's tastes (especially if you're afraid of a coup/revolution), and not always reliable... certainly no use as an offensive weapon.

Otherwise, I'm inclined to feel that it'll be hard to keep much more than 1% of the population in regular service, and that if you do, it will be a largely straight-leg (none mechanised) affair that's a nightmare to keep trained and mobile et cetera et cetera.

Sorry if that's more confusing/boring than helpful, it's pretty darn late :)

OOC: Oh okie i see what you mean its just i used numbers from the Cia World Factbook and didnt know about the 10% thing ill be sure to change as soon as i have a chane to thanks for the advice and dont worry bout the long posts

[QUOTE=GuevaraZapataVilla]
Demographics: 97% Mexican (Spanish and Portugese Decent) [QUOTE]

I'm sure its so obvious that this also includes Native American decent since its in the Americas, but I'd include it anyway especially considering the country's name.

Because this is a RP you can make up whatever you want. But it is highly unlikely that this scenario could have occurred, not without some major events in between. While (US President) Wilson may have turned a blind eye to this revolution if it seemed democratic, the US certainly would not have appreciated a socialist state at its borders. Granted, Zapata was pushing land reform that basically was fighting against feudalism and private property rights could have survived once it was distributed to the peasants that were working the land, with Guevara in the name, the country sounds like its socialist and will have communal farms. Thus expect US invasions or interventions. With stuff like the Zimmerman telegram going on, the US would have been afraid that there was German involvement and been able to use that alone as an excuse, let alone US economic interests were at stake. Include events of wars and how Zapata managed to not be assassinated. Also its highly doubtful that in less than three years the country is stabilized. Where did the investment for the transportation come from? Where did the investment for the construction of industry come from? Even without a US blockade, foreign investment would have dropped once people saw that if they invested there and failed they would get nothing, and if they invested there and succeeded they would get nothing or very little once it was nationalized (also add the cost of the high taxes the national government would have been tempted to put in.) And this is assuming that the country would have been stabilized just by knocking out the top leadership, I think there is enough evidence in history to show that people continue fighting, even those that would have joined for opportunistic reasons with Zapata. So getting all of Mexico to join under one banner within such a little time seems unlikely. If the country's agricultural program was like the early Soviet Union then you can't expect there to be the levels of prosperity that were boasted. The communist agricultural programs ended in famine, remember that Lenin's New Economic Policy had to be put in for a reason. And again, for natural resources, where will the capital for building new facilities, maintaining old ones, hiring new people, transporting goods, etc, come from. And like one of the earlier posts said, you might get a high employment rate if everyone is drafted in the military, but they won't be producing anything of value that will raise standards of living. The factories will just be suppling the government with more weapons, not consumer goods. But even if you don't have such a large military, where will you get a 4% poverty rate in five years? How is poverty defined? No other country has done this with such a plan. Most have failed. Who will provide the factories, the jobs? How socialist is the country? Are they just out to nationalize things or to distribute wealth? If the government pushes to fast there will be a brain drain. The government may be able to live off seized wealth for a while, but without investment (which won't happen if the government seizes everything) there won't be much more production. The government would have to learn all sorts of new things it wasn't doing before, ensure patronage or corruption doesn't occur, create some kind of incentive so people (or factories) who work harder will get more than ones that don't, and try not to be bribed by certain industries demanding more money. Also, people may not like seeing all their money going into industry when they have their own problems on the farm (this has happened else where.) So basically, the country has a idealistic history that doesn't seem plausible if there was little property rights.

okie ok i see what you mean so ill be working on a history timeline to show the events soon and then really map out time length for things to stabalize and what happened with US and so on ill be working on it over the weekend thanks for the imput