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The Dominion of DMG is looking for a new tank. Specifically powerful and heavily armored. We already posses the M1 Abrams and the Challenger II so we do not purchase any of them. Price is not an issue and our order will be large (most likely 2-5 thousand).

Official Inquiry in the Possible Exportation of the Panzerkampfwaggen XIII to DMG

Kriegzimmer, the predominate weapons industry in the Golden Throne, is interested in selling you our own main battle tank, the Panzerkampfwaggen XIII. It fits your description of the wanted armor, and is much more advanced than the standard versions of the British Challenger II and the Abrams, which are considered more or less obsolete by today's standards.

For your personal comfort we have placed the description below:

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Panzerkampfwaggen XI BredtSverd

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Armor:
Due to the overriding cost of the Muwatallis' 'buckyball composite' armor, and because this cost is what caused the shortages of armor in the Macabee armed forces it was decided that a much cheaper, yet still completely modern, armor was needed, and although it would still be expensive relative to other tanks it would be considerably cheaper than the billion dollar buckyballs. Consequently, the armor would be a heavy conglameration of Russian/Soviet technology, Israeli technology, and American technology. The overriding armored layer is one of Kontackt-5 ERA, which is said to give an RHA value of 600mms against HEAT and 250mm against APFSDS with an armored mass of three tons. So, there's actually two layers of Kontackt-5 ERA bricks merged as one, giving the armor a weight of a total of about ten tons. The second layer is composed of eighteen millimeters of Modular Expandable Armor System (MEXAS),which equates to around three thousand millimeters of RHA armored value. The final layer is made of a Chobham Composite armor, who's exact materials remain secret, although it's rumored by a few of the engineers that it has mixed layers/fibers of plastic, ceramics, titanium boride, depleted uranium, et cetera. Finally, on top of the Kontackt-5 ERA armor the Pz. XI also uses the newly designed 'electric amor'. The new electric armour is made up of a highly-charged capacitor that is connected to two separate metal plates on the tank's exterior. The outer plate, which is bullet-proof and made from an unspecified alloy, is earthed while the insulated inner plate is live. The electric armour runs off the tank's own power supply. When the tank commander feels he is in a dangerous area, he simply switches on the current to the inner plate. When the warhead fires its jet of molten copper, it penetrates both the outer plate and the insulation of the inner plate. This makes a connection and thousands of amps of electricity vaporises most of the molten copper. The rest of the copper is dispersed harmlessly against the vehicle's hull. But despite the high charge, the electrical load on the battery is no more than that caused by starting the engine on a cold morning.

Fire and Control System:
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The new fire and control system present on the Pz. XI, dubbed 'Brass', is the new top notch of said systems, developed by General Dynamics (Canada) and expanded upon by Macabee engineers. It includes Multi-Role Sensor Suite, Multi-Sensor Integration, Integrated Sensor/TA Suite, Virtual Immersive, Environment (AVTB)\, Neuroholographic ATD/R, Immersive Visualization. Moreover, the new system has both a low altitude RADAR and LIDAR system which has capabilities of tracking and giving firing solutions for up to twenty different targets at up to four thousand meters for the LIDAR and up to eleven thousand meters for the RADAR (although, of course, a gun doesn't necessarily have the power nor the type of shell to reach that far, and of course, that doesn't mean that the area between you and the enemy tank if full of large rocks that can disrupt your shell and its vector). The LIDAR uses a gaussian transmitter, which is right now the most advanced LIDAR transmitter developed by the United States. Of course, this fire and control system also uses thermal imaging, and of course, infra-red imaging.

Main Gun:
The Panzer XI uses a 120mm ETC cannon. Although there were proponents of following suit with other nations and putting up to 200mm ETC cannons it was finally decided that such a decision would be unintelligent as it would mean, most importantly, that the turret would rotate slower and rate of fire would be much slower (concerning turning the turret, actually firing, and loading the shells). To make the turret turn quicker the turret and the chassis are divided in two by a central gyro circular sheet of composite metals, using McPhearson strut like bars, interwoven in springs (much like the shocks on your cars) and then smaller gyrating bars, to make the movement hydraulic, consequently, making it much faster. As do other Macabee tanks there are also small "R rings" inside the barrel which are springs measuring nanometers in size which reduce the kickback post-firing as well as muzzle flash.

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Other Systems:
The Shortstop Electronic Protection System (SEPS) is an RF Proximity Fuze counter measure. The Shortstop battlefield electronic countermeasures system is capable of prematurely detonating incoming artillery and mortar rounds. It counters the threat of RF Proximity Fuzed munitions by causing them to prefunction, to protect friendly ground troops, vehicles, structures, and other equipment under fire. The SHORTSTOP system was originally produced as a Quick Reaction Capability (QRC) product in support of Desert Storm. A request for information (RFI) was received from ARCENT addressing available countermeasures for indirect fire munitions utilizing proximity fuzes; such as those found in artillery, mortar, and rocket munitions. Whittaker Corp. in Simi Valley, CA built the system for PEO-IEW during the Gulf War in response to the artillery threat posed by the Iraqis, but the war ended before Shortstop could be deployed. The system could reduce casualties to ground troops by as much as 50 percent during the initial stages of an enemy attack. These prototype systems were subjected to a minimal amount of environmental testing in preparation for deployment. After Desert Storm, the system was subjected to extensive live fire testing in the desert at Yuma Proving Grounds and evaluated by the TRADOC Analysis Command (TRAC) and the Dismounted Battlespace Battle Lab. The SHORTSTOP, AN/VLQ -9 or -10, systems demonstrated, in testing, the ability to significantly enhance survivability of troops and high value assets from indirect fire, proximity fuzed munitions. Reports of more than 5,000 live artillery and mortar round firings against Shortstop in tests at Yuma Proving Ground, Ariz., indicate that the system is 100 percent effective against selected weapons. The test rounds were fired singly and in barrages, with none reaching their intended target, test officials reported. The prototypes were deployed for a limited period of time in Bosnia and were returned to contingency stock in 1997. To meet urgent operational requirements for deployed forces, the 3rd Army Commander on 11 Feb 98 requested 12 Shortstop Electronic Countermeasure Systems. These systems were readily available as a near term loan that only required funding to train operators and purchase some fielding and maintenance related items. HQDA approved the release for immediate deployment, requesting AMC execute the action that was subsequently completed by CECOM's Project Manager for Firefinder. The QRO supported delivery and fielding of these systems by coordinating the necessary arrangements for deployment of a two-man New Equipment Training Team (NETT) from CECOM. The NETT departed on 25 Feb 1998 with the equipment (acting as couriers) on a C-5 Cargo flight out of Dover AFB. The SHORTSTOP system training, checkout and positioning was completed by the CECOM NETT 20 March 1998. Packaged in a suitcase-size case and fitted with a small multi-directional antenna, the Shortstop system can be activated and operational within seconds. Shortstop's passive electronics and operational features make it impervious to detection by enemy signal-intelligence sensors. In the near future, Shortstop will shrink in size, down to 25 pounds. Whittaker is currently under contract to build three new, smaller versions: manpack and vehicle units, as well as a stand-alone unit.

FCLAS is comprised of a sensor and short range grenade launcher, loaded with special fragmentation grenades with delay fuses set to intercept the incoming threat at a range of approx. 5 meters from the protected vehicle. The actual initiation of the explosive charge is triggered by a side looking RF proximity fuse which senses the incoming projectile as it passes nearby. The explosion forms a vertical, doughnut shaped fragmentation effect that kills the passing threat but does not effect the protected vehicle. The system's target weight is 140 kg., to enable deployment on light vehicles. Each grenade is equipped with a forward looking radar mounted on the exposed tip of the grenade. Each of the FCLAS munitions has such an integrated radar, which forms a complete sensor, monitoring a protective hemisphere around and above the vehicle. The Army hopes to get a prototype system of FCLAS for testing in 2004 and an operational system, which could protect against RPG threats, deployed with Bradley, Stryker and Humvee

The Panzer XI also has a small CIWS system resembling a smaller Phalanx, however, using a seperate gaussian transmitter with a range of about two hundred meters to track incoming anti-tank guided and unguided missiles. The CIWS, or ACIWS, is automated and has a three hundred and sixty rotational view.

Engine:
The Panzer XI uses a 1,800 horsepower diesel engine which gives the Panzer XI a maximum on road velocity of forty kilometers per hour, which is really all that is needed for a tank the size of a Panzer XI.

Crew: 4 (Commander, Gunner, Loader, Auxilary Machine Gunner/Driver)
Weight: 80.4 Tons

Cost:8 Million USD
Production Rights: Not available


[Differences from the last tank are the 'buckyball composite' armor, the hydrogen fuel cell tank engine, I took off the anti-mine laser system because I can just use the old fashion scorpion which costs infinitely less mulah, and I took off the DREAD and just decided to go with a Phalanx type system.]

Pic of the Track:
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Should you decide that our tank is preferrable for your likes you can fill in a purchase in our catalogue, which is located at this (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=409787) local.

Thank you for your time and dedication,

[signed]Kriegzimmer Board

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MP Ordnance Corporation is proud to present to you the T-140:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=439817

Even in base form, it can vaporize the Panzerkampfwagen XI. An added bonus would be its modularity and the sheer number of options it can absorb.

DMG, you have a TG, and may I recommend Soviet bloc's ST-37K1

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If you're looking for something a little different (and don't mind shelling out extra cash for extra quality), you may be interested in the Admiral A-1 Mk IIIe (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427507).

It's tougher than any tank currently on the market in II and possesses a ridiculous amount of firepower.

i have 10 thousand of the more advanced m1a2 and am willing 2 sell 2 thousand of them at 1,000,000 a piece(bags of rice not dollars) i also have about 180000 old russian tank and about 10,000,000 rpgs and countless rounds of ammo if your intrested

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i have 10 thousand of the more advanced m1a2 and am willing 2 sell 2 thousand of them at 1,000,000 a piece(bags of rice not dollars) i also have about 180000 old russian tank and about 10,000,000 rpgs and countless rounds of ammo if your intrested



No freaking way you have 190,000 tanks. I have 550 million people and i only have 10,000 tanks.

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The Federation of Animarnia would like to offer the AN-01 Patriot Tank for your inspection, we can provide you with one test model free of charge for your testing we are certain that it will meet all your needs.

Specifacations here:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9504429&postcount=1

As time has passed we have accumulated a large number of MT-30A Cougar Main Battle Tanks that are nearing the end of their field service as theyve been mostly replaced by MT-30B's and other units in mainstream service. This of course means the tanks (which are still quite up to date) are avaialble at discount (about 6.5 million Per unit compared to 8.5 per unit) furthermore we have been authorized to sell the domestic production rights for a negotiable fee for the A model only.

MT-30A datafile: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=413943&page=1&pp=15

Sincerely,
Heather Gearing
Horizon Heavy Industries