NationStates Jolt Archive


New Assault Rifle announced.

Cotland
24-08-2005, 22:23
AG3 Assault Rifle

The AG3 Assault Rifle is a brand new rifle that is to replace all M8 rifles currently in service. The AG3 is available in two versions, one with a smaller barrel. The A1 is equipped with a 450 millimeter barrel which gives it a accurate range of up to 600 meters, although the effective range is in the upper reaches of 350. The A2 has a 315 millimeter barrel which is for combat in areas where the fighting in under 400 meters. Accuracy is up to 450 meters, but it is most effective at ranges under 300 meters. The A1 version comes with a fixed stock made from hardened plastic, making beating enemies with the rifle possible without breaking the stock, while A2 version comes with folding buttstocks. Both versions have the end of the butt made from rubber, causing the recoil to be minimalized. The weight for the A1 is roughly 3,2 kilograms, with the A2 being somewhat lighter. The AG3 use the standard ammunition for the Armed Forces, which is the 6.8 x 43 mm round. The price for the AG3 rifle comes to $900.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1842/ag39ew.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8864/ag3a29uz.jpg
From top to bottom: AG3A1 Assault Rifle, AG3A2 Carbine Assault Rifle


Caliber: 6.8 x 43 mm
Action: Gas operated, roller delayed blowback action
Fire Mode: Semi-auto, 3-round burst, or automatic
Overall Length: 1023 millimeters [A1]; 888 millimeters ; 730 millimeters [folded A2]
[u]Barrel Length: 450 millimeters [A1]; 315 millimeters [A2]
Weight: 3,5 kgs [A1]; 3,3 kgs [A2]
Magazine: 35 rounds, or 100 rounds in double drum
Rate of Fire: 850 rounds per minute
Effective Range: 360 meters [A1]; 300 meters [A2]
Muzzle Velocity: 934 meters per second [A1]; 915 meters per second [A2]
Underwater Shoot: No
Chamber Pressure: 51,800 psi
Equippment Availabilities: Equipment rail, scope optics, suppressor, front handle, M320 Grenade Launcher, laser, flashlight, bayonet
Cost: $900 [A1]; $1,000 [A2]
Service Life: 35,000 rounds
Cobra Global
24-08-2005, 23:20
Excellent we'll take 1,000 for our corporate militia and security forces.
Cotland
24-08-2005, 23:22
Please specify which version you wish, and do your own math. Thank you.
Cobra Global
24-08-2005, 23:32
(right ;) )

for $900,000 I will take a thousand of the A2 model.
Snake Eaters
24-08-2005, 23:33
Isn't that image a H&K G3?
Cotland
24-08-2005, 23:34
Confirmed. Expect final delivery in two NS months.
Kjata Major
24-08-2005, 23:41
Umm..chamber pressure is over 50,000 psi? Uh....is that a little more disturbing then the 'gas-operated' thing?

If this is 'gas-operated' what kind of gas, where's the holder....why the heck is gun so light? It doesn't say 'empty' next to weight.
SkyCapt
24-08-2005, 23:51
Isn't that image a H&K G3?
Yes.
Kyanges
25-08-2005, 00:10
Umm..chamber pressure is over 50,000 psi? Uh....is that a little more disturbing then the 'gas-operated' thing?

If this is 'gas-operated' what kind of gas, where's the holder....why the heck is gun so light? It doesn't say 'empty' next to weight.

1) I'm not criticizing you. :)
2) I seriously suggest you look up some more info on Guns, and just what "Gas operated" means.
3) I do agree with you on the "light" bit. Even if it is tough plastic, 7 pounds, hmm.

4)Same rule applies. Please don't respond to this here. Call if you've got something.
Snake Eaters
25-08-2005, 00:13
Yes.

Thought as much. Good weapon specs Cotland, I like it. I won't be buying any, but all in all, it's a nice weapon. Although I do also have to uphold the question about weight
OrcinusZatu
25-08-2005, 00:24
Looks like an elongated MP5 with a different clip.

"Gas operated" doesn't mean that "gas powered", it means the hot material behind the bullet rushes up a second tube and pushes the a piston that pushes the bolt back to where it's ready to fire again. That's why it's automatic, after every shot, the shot pushes the bolt back to a ready position.
Galdar
25-08-2005, 00:45
What kind of gas? What a stupid question!

Sorry, I just had to say that.
Danite
25-08-2005, 00:49
The Archaic Realm of Danite wishes to purchase the following equipment:

AG3A2 Carbine Assault Rifle x 1,000

Total: $1,000,000

If these weapons pass their test, and are proven to be effective, more will be purchased.

Trec Stazzin,
Minister of Defense,
Sagret.

**Money will be wired upon confirmation**
DAKKADAKKA42
25-08-2005, 01:13
[QUOTE=OrcinusZatu]Looks like an elongated MP5 with a different clip.

QUOTE]

It looks like an elongated MP-5 because the G3 (the rifle in the pic, the top one is the G3A3 and the one below is the G3KA4) because the MP-5 is a scaled down G3 battle rifle that uses the same system but to fire the 9mm Para/luger instead of the 7.62x51mm NATO that the G3 uses. Indeed the G3 is the basis for nearly all of H&K's small arms exept the very latest ones (G36, UMP, etc) and the G11 series.
Penpusher Confederacy
25-08-2005, 01:31
Due to the primitive, outdated nature of this weapon, the Penpusher Army's Weapons Committee releases the following statement:

"Cute."
Snake Eaters
25-08-2005, 08:59
[QUOTE=OrcinusZatu]Looks like an elongated MP5 with a different clip.

QUOTE]

It looks like an elongated MP-5 because the G3 (the rifle in the pic, the top one is the G3A3 and the one below is the G3KA4) because the MP-5 is a scaled down G3 battle rifle that uses the same system but to fire the 9mm Para/luger instead of the 7.62x51mm NATO that the G3 uses. Indeed the G3 is the basis for nearly all of H&K's small arms exept the very latest ones (G36, UMP, etc) and the G11 series.

Bearing in mind the G11 was abandoned due to the failure to create a viable caseless ammunition.
Industrialist Eurasia
25-08-2005, 09:32
Bearing in mind the G11 was abandoned due to the failure to create a viable caseless ammunition.

Not really, through a series of development stages, they finally created the caseless ammunition they wanted. The reason it was abandoned was to do with the reunification of East and West Germany. The German government simply wasnt interested in the gun, so having no contractors who are willing to buy it, H&K abandoned production. More information found at hkpro.com
Kroblexskij
25-08-2005, 09:49
caseless ammunition is also highly suseptable to changes in heat/pressure/ and PH. i would personally go for the regular case ammo.
Cotland
25-08-2005, 10:00
The Archaic Realm of Danite wishes to purchase the following equipment:

AG3A2 Carbine Assault Rifle x 1,000

Total: $1,000,000

If these weapons pass their test, and are proven to be effective, more will be purchased.

Trec Stazzin,
Minister of Defense,
Sagret.

**Money will be wired upon confirmation**

Confirmed. Expect final delivery in 2 NS months.


OOC: Yes, it is based on the Heckler & Koch G3A3 assault rifle, and it bears the Norwegian name for it (AG3). It's part of my long-term plans as far as RPs go.

On another note, I bumped up the weight a bit, so it's a bit heavier now.

The reason why I chose the G3 as a base is because the G3 kicks ass!
DAKKADAKKA42
25-08-2005, 14:29
Confirmed. Expect final delivery in 2 NS months.


OOC: Yes, it is based on the Heckler & Koch G3A3 assault rifle, and it bears the Norwegian name for it (AG3). It's part of my long-term plans as far as RPs go.

On another note, I bumped up the weight a bit, so it's a bit heavier now.

The reason why I chose the G3 as a base is because the G3 kicks ass!
And thats why H&K based the G36 off the AR18 is it? Just joking the G3 is good but the FN FAL is better... Rifles dont earn a knick name like "right arm of the free world" for no reason. Althougth compared to the M14 both were great weapons.

And for all those that doubt the viability of the G11 I'll have you know that development of the rifle an ammuntion was completed and was offically adopted by the German army in 1990 and 1000 approx (K2 variant) were delivered before they decided not to use it due to (mainly) finachal constraints and NATO STANAG issues an so were lumbered with the G3 for 5 more years until they adopted the G36.

Oh yeah, if your rifle is based of the G3 shouldn't it use roller delayed blowback?
Snake Eaters
25-08-2005, 15:01
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Oh yeah, if your rifle is based of the G3 shouldn't it use roller delayed blowback?

I knew I'd forgotten something. H&K are famous for the roller delayed blowback. G3, HK 53, MP5, PSG-1, they all use it
Cotland
25-08-2005, 17:11
Oh yeah, if your rifle is based of the G3 shouldn't it use roller delayed blowback?
Fixed. Thanks for noticing.
DAKKADAKKA42
26-08-2005, 02:26
Fixed. Thanks for noticing.
all part of the service. but dont thank me, thank the good people at http://world.guns.ru. It is there that i get my knowlage of firearms and spend far too much of my free time.

Also, I'll take 200 of the A2 variant for evaluation and/or specops use.
the $200,000 will be wired upon confermantion
SkyCapt
26-08-2005, 02:45
How much are production rights? Also, would you be interested in showing this in my storefront? 60% of the income made on this would go to you.
Cotland
26-08-2005, 07:58
DAKKADAKKA42: Confirmed.

Skycapt: Denied. Too low percentage of the profit coming my way...
Zarlon
26-08-2005, 08:12
My government will take 1000 for our Army and security forces, 900,000 USD i believe is the price? 1/2 of them A1 version and the other 1/2 A2 version please
Weapons-Tech incorp
26-08-2005, 08:25
your weapons look well old.... they have reasonable operational ability but not the power that some need..... New weapons are coming.
SkyCapt
26-08-2005, 21:14
DAKKADAKKA42: Confirmed.

Skycapt: Denied. Too low percentage of the profit coming my way...
85/+? We'll tale 100 for evaluation, by the way. Money will be wired upon order confirmation.
Cotland
26-08-2005, 21:58
Zarlon: Actually, the total price comes to $950,000, as you can see below. Anyway, confirmed. Final shipment expected in two NS months (we're working overtime and in weekends to meet demands).

[AG3A1] 500 x $900 = $450,000
[AG3A2] 500 x $1,000 = $500,000

SkyCapt: No, we don't wish to hand out production rights for this weapon system. However, your order for 100 AG3A1s (we automatically assume you ordered the A1 version unless otherwise specified) has been confirmed and the final shipment will be completed in two NS weeks. Total cost are $90,000.
Nianacio
26-08-2005, 22:15
OOC: Is it gas-operated or roller-delayed blowback?
SkyCapt
26-08-2005, 22:29
Zarlon: Actually, the total price comes to $950,000, as you can see below. Anyway, confirmed. Final shipment expected in two NS months (we're working overtime and in weekends to meet demands).

[AG3A1] 500 x $900 = $450,000
[AG3A2] 500 x $1,000 = $500,000

SkyCapt: No, we don't wish to hand out production rights for this weapon system. However, your order for 100 AG3A1s (we automatically assume you ordered the A1 version unless otherwise specified) has been confirmed and the final shipment will be completed in two NS weeks. Total cost are $90,000.
OK, doesn't really matter. As for the rifles, I'm chiding myself as we speak for not remembering to specify the rilfe-type. Oh well, A1's are just as good. Thank you, good luck with your assault rifle venture.