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look at the size of this thing!! :) :) !!! I dont even know where to begin on the stats

Could this be the same mammoth tank project that was undertaken in the Command and Conquer Series?

No, the C&C Mammoth Tank has two barrels, and is nowhere near that big. In terms of C&C, that thing would dwarf your construction yard.

That isnt a tank. It looks like some kind of massive artillery piece.

that looks mighty suseptible to molotovs

That isnt a tank. It looks like some kind of massive artillery piece.

Hell, remove its tracks and give it a hull and youve almost got a battleship

Looks like some major Earthshaker S.P.G!

No, the C&C Mammoth Tank has two barrels, and is nowhere near that big. In terms of C&C, that thing would dwarf your construction yard.

No, I think it is, the Mk 1 was about two stories high, the Mk 2 was about twice that, don't know about Mk 3, but in the upper left you can see "Mammoth Mk 4" So I think that GDI must've whooped NOD's ass all over the place with this one.

OK it looks nice, but what is going to support the gun when it fires? It's all the way in the back. Meaning that its going to be most likely heavier then the front to star with and if it fires the MK IV will mostly likely lose the gun unless its REALLY strong and heavier in the front.

It looks like the engine's at the front to balance the gun...I'm more concerned with all the exposed pipework and vents that suggest the total absence of armour, personally.

It looks like the engine's at the front to balance the gun...I'm more concerned with all the exposed pipework and vents that suggest the total absence of armour, personally.
Im more concerned that it's likely to move at the same speed as those massive crawlers that transport the spaceshuttle, or possibly considerably slower. Im also worried that a decent air attack could destroy this with relative ease...

Looks impressive but it would have a number of drawbacks.
1. the C&C Mammoth Mk.1 would not be useable on rough terrain and would severly damage roads (in real life. Thats why we dont have tanks with 2 120mm guns in the turret, and add the protection that the Mk.1 had and the thing is far too heavy to be practical)
2. That design would be a step back from the mamoth Mk.2. the Mk.2 had twin chin mounted rail guns, a SAM air defence system and legs for use on rough terrian like the GDI titan. That has what looks like a single large calibre gun and auto-cannons for air defence. Also it is on tracks meaning that it would have lost much of the off road mobility of the Mk.2
3. as said above, the tank appears to have a total lack of armour and many of its operating systems are expsed and there fore vulnurable (look at all the exposed piping and what looks like raidiators on the frount. If that thing has a water cooled engine it could be stopped by a man with a machine gun) This goes against the doctire to which both the Mk.1, Mk.2 and almost all GDI vehciles are designed to which is that protection and firepower come first.

In my opinion that looks more like the "Mobile War factory/Fist of NOD Mk.2"

Im more concerned that it's likely to move at the same speed as those massive crawlers that transport the spaceshuttle, or possibly considerably slower. Im also worried that a decent air attack could destroy this with relative ease...

You two both make very good points, well if the engine is in the front and it should be with all the ammo, then I guess it would work.

Exposed pipes....screams weakness. Oversized...screams slowness.


Fourth point....treads have ZERO protection in the front, sides and back. One grenade, missile or whatever will take this thing out in an instant.

Its so obviously not a tank! I mean it has gantries running along the sides! AA turrets as well! Its obviously just a mobile HQ type thing that wont be moving for long. Looks like some kind of forge world mega project!

Looks to me like a combination of a mobile HQ and artillery vehicle.

The C&C Mammoth tanks and ths thing are in no way related. Who says it has to be from C&C? Some gu made it, not a company.

The C&C Mammoh tanks have 4 treads, then the main body in the centre, like =-= with the turret in the centre. The turret has 2 cannons (of whatever kind) and it has a SAM thing on it. so yea, it's no where near it.

Im more concerned that it's likely to move at the same speed as those massive crawlers that transport the spaceshuttle, or possibly considerably slower. Im also worried that a decent air attack could destroy this with relative ease...

Well, considering OCM bucket-wheel excavators ten thousand tons heavier than the shuttle transporter travel faster than it...Um, it's likely to be faster than that.

Well, considering OCM bucket-wheel excavators ten thousand tons heavier the the shuttle transporter travel faster than it...Um, it's likely to be faster than that.
And Im sure that lots of them carry stupidly massive artillery guns on their backs, and heavy armour designed to withstand tank shells. :rolleyes:

Well, considering OCM bucket-wheel excavators ten thousand tons heavier the the shuttle transporter travel faster than it...Um, it's likely to be faster than that.

This piece of crap can't do anything though. If it goes down a slope it's liable to flip over, if it goes up...same thing.

One attack will ruin it. It has a shitty control system, and looks like crap. This is not a good tank or anything. It has no military use then just being a OMG-tech. Looks cool, but practical it is not.

The thing has very little armor.

And guns just add weight. Sure, a lot of weight, but something like that has to have a humongeousengine, so what difference is a few thousand pounds?

Sure, it's not going to be cruising along at 60 or 70 miles an hour, but it would do 20 or 30.

And the main reason the space shuttle transporter goes so slow is because the Space huttle is big, bulky, akward, VERY expensive, and they don't want it to fall over.

The thing has very little armor.

And guns just add weight. Sure, a lot of weight, but something like that has to have a humongeousengine, so what difference is a few thousand pounds?

Sure, it's not going to be cruising along at 60 or 70 miles an hour, but it would do 20 or 30.

And the main reason the space shuttle transporter goes so slow is because the Space huttle is big, bulky, akward, VERY expensive, and they don't want it to fall over.
Looking at the same and considering that for the most part that is solid metal I somewhat doubt that. If you want a massive artillery piece, at the size of shells you're looking at with this you're better of just building missiles. At least you can actually move them, they're not so easily destroyed.

Oh man, Praetonia, you make perfect sense about that.

You could buy probably 300 missiles and afford launchers or buy like 7 artillery pieces for the price of one of these.

20-30 mph, ISF Devastator?

Are you on speed? This thing can't handle it, no way in the world. Too heavy, too damaging to the roads and no way that this thing would be able to go 'off-road'. It's not practical. I'd die of laughter if someone used one of those against me.

And Im sure that lots of them carry stupidly massive artillery guns on their backs, and heavy armour designed to withstand tank shells. :rolleyes:

Um, we're talking something four times bigger than the shuttle transporter moving faster than it. Does this not suggest that perhaps the limit on the transporter's speed has more to do with the motors in it than a universal limit for a 3 kton vehicle?

I doubt if that thing will move particularly quickly. A couple of men with RPGs could easily ambush it and cripple it's ability to move making a sitting duck.

I doubt if that thing will move particularly quickly. A couple of men with RPGs could easily ambush it and cripple it's ability to move making a sitting duck.

Take a look at the bottom, you can see the connection between the front two 'treads' and realize if you shoot that it won't be able to move at all.

Take a look at the bottom, you can see the connection between the front two 'treads' and realize if you shoot that it won't be able to move at all.

Treads are always the weak part of the tank.

No...please look at the picture, it has NOTHING to protect anything on the underside. It's controlled by that one opened bar and it is easy to destroy.

Hooray for pointless excess!
However, a scaled-down version might be good, perhaps 1/4 size, or smaller, and it would be a good AA/arty platform.

No...please look at the picture, it has NOTHING to protect anything on the underside. It's controlled by that one opened bar and it is easy to destroy.

I get what you mean now. You could roll grenades under that thing for fun.

I get what you mean now. You could roll grenades under that thing for fun.
Of course, I think that sheer mass would prevent the grenades from having much effect, sure, it might slow it down a little bit, but you would need the entire Chinese army to roll grenades under it to have a noticable effect.

Of course, I think that sheer mass would prevent the grenades from having much effect, sure, it might slow it down a little bit, but you would need the entire Chinese army to roll grenades under it to have a noticable effect.

It has no armor though, it's completely exposed. One RPG will destroy that. Heck...even a mine could!

Look, its just a pointless model some guy has made for fun, theres no point in discussing its good features! It has none!