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We invite all nations involved in the VSI incident to send a delegation to Borman Empire for peace talks. While the peace talks commence there will be a mandatory cease-fire. We will begin as soon as there are at least one rep. from each side.

President Justin Scarfe is in flight on the way to the peace meetings.

We demand the following:

1. Parthia will continue to occupy all of VSI for 150 years, excepting other colonial holdings by powers neutral or friendly to Parthia in the War
2. Island city and the area around it will be a Parthian possession unless we decide to give it up.
3. After 150 years, VSI will be returned as a Parthian protectoriate
4. Castle and surrounding areas will be made a Pheanix possession unless they decide to relinquish it.
5. VSI must pay 3 trillion dollars in reparations for annoying the Shah.

-Foreign Minister Piruz Savadkouhi

Willink agrees to terms 1 and 2.

Term 4 is useless, Pheanix did not even participate, his troops never landed, and thus i find this innaproprate.

How do you expect a decimated country to pay 3 trillion dollars ?


Term 3 is not fair to the country, especially considering your slaughter of civilians. That is almost a revolt waiting to happen.




Justin Scarfe, President, Willink.

Ulkov Vadinos is on his way to the peace conference

"Good to see you Shah, and good to know you got right to buisness."

Now, terms one and two have been agreed to. Term 5 however can't be done because they don't have the cash to complete it. Perhaps they could make that up by agreeing to term 3 or providing an amount of slaves that would equal the money.

Term number 4 can be seen as reasonable because Pheanix was on the side of what seems to be the victor. Although Im sure Pheanix would agree to forfeit the land for a supply of slaves or money.

term 1 and 2 are not agrred upon because VSI and some other nation have not seen it yet

Well we've progressed past only one side agreeing, at least we have people on both sides agreeing.

We have now seen the Parthian peace terms. We agree to term 1, but maybe another power should occupy the Island because the people in Very Small Island hate the Parthians and Parthian forces would probaly be attacked by some groups.

Could term 2 be adjusted, Our nation couldn’t function without a centralized capitol and many of the buildings in Island city are still use able plus the rebuilding cost would be much higher if we needed to hand over this city, maybe the Parthians could occupy this area for longer.

Could you say what you mean by a "protectorate" for term 3 and after this we will be able to give our reply to this term.

We will not agree to term 4, Pheanix did very little in this war and we don’t think that should be given a whole city for nothing.

If the Parthians give us money to initially rebuild then we could pay them back once our country is in better shape we could make the payment. We will be able to agree to this term if the Parthians give us an initial loan.

THere was no clear cut"Winner" All side took and inflicted casualties, except Pheanix. So the people take back their land just to hand it back over ? They should give Aust's city to Pheanix.

Emporer William shall attend these talk. Aust has considrable forces in the area, as well as terratorial holdings in the city of Row which we seized after the first VSI war. We therefore shall attend. We stress that we are still nutual in this conflict but our stance may change depending on what is in it for us.

Term 1 is ridiculous, infact all there demands are ridiculous, last tiem we checked the only place the parthians were in control of was island city with that being heavily contested, we are deploying ten more divisions of regulars national guard and foreign legion troops to our base in castle, in anticipation of the near certain failure of these peace talks. The only one of the terms i could posibly agree to is two, but then why would we hand a city to a genocidal maniac?

THere was no clear cut"Winner" All side took and inflicted casualties, except Pheanix. So the people take back their land just to hand it back over ? They should give Aust's city to Pheanix.
This shall not happen, even in suggesting it you insult the Emporer and the brave Austians who died taking the city, as well as those who died defending it. We remind you of the opwoer that Aust can weild in this situation, it is likly that if we chose to join the Parthians that the war would be over in days. Indeed we are more likly to take new terratory than to give back Row.

We have pumped millions of HP into Row, it's citizens are Austian citizens, it's people are starting to speak Austian and Aust contols the city.

All VSI liberation forces and remainig civilians in Island City, leave now, allied forces are pulling back to fortify castle, we will make our stand there, luckily this ceasefire means i can recover my dead and also my knocked out vehicles :).

I would like the permission of VSI after the war to stay in the east to help guard the region and train more soldiers and provide humanitarian aide until we leave at a unditermined date.


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The paratroopers of the 11th para-Assult unit,486th Regiment(3500 men) are moving back to castle.

I don't think the area controled by Aust should be discussed here, that was taken over by Aust and wasnt really involved in this conflict.

Bump

The Willink government refuses to hand over Castle to Pheanix and The Parthians.

(OOC)

Can someone tell me what that war in VSI was all about.

I only read the bit where the VSI Liberation Front fought to gain freedom for VSI from Parthian rule.

Is VSI still a colony of Parthia or is it free?

Are these peace talks going well or have they gone nowhere?

Is the VSI Liberation Front still active and who backs them?

Who backs Parthia?

I have no idea if it is a colony.

The peace talks havent gone anywere.

Liberation front is still active, supported by me, skycapt, Spizania, and Morvonia.

The parthians were helped by Pheanix(didnt do anything except get their planes shot down by me, joined right before the end)

The VSI Liberation Front wants freedom for VSI?

If so and if the peace talks break down, I may support them, but I urge your side to try and give these 'peace' talks one last shot!

The Ahmerian Colony one Row shall remain outside of this debate until further notice.

The VSI Liberation Front wants freedom for VSI?

If so and if the peace talks break down, I may support them, but I urge your side to try and give these 'peace' talks one last shot!




Look at their freakin demands !

Umm not to point out the obvious but Island City would be under our control shortly if the peace talks doesnt work. I got two Task Forces less than 40 miles from VSI and nearing, and another one escorting supplies and troops transports that can easily attack you. Not counting two Marine Divisions, less than a day away, with more being reassign for deployment in the theater later on. In other words you about to be overun and routed so think aabout it a little, you will be saving a lot of lives this way.

By the way my goverment would be easily persuaded to leave Castle alone for a good amount of valuables, anything from money to preciuos gems are accepted.

Um, i had 500,000 troops and 40,000 marines here, along with around 800 tanks.

And i have over one hundred and thirty thousand men with over 22000 armoured vehicles (my armoured divisons have twelve armoured brigades rather than 4), and anyway weve pulled out of Island city and are fortifying castel, hundreds of Sams have arrived and we are in aposisiton to turn your carrier attack groups into wreckage on the seabed. I have order several hundred 400mm Coastal railguns and my two thousand 155mm Howitzers outguns your two puny Marine divisons

Also im redeploying 9 wings of the confederate airforce to castle and raising 3new FL divisions in castle and transfering 3 from trungsten.

Also Willink i need you to get the largest nuclear power plant you can find and i want you to bury it in a massive bunker belwo castle (to power my coastal rail-gun batteries without using lots of fuel.)

The VSI Liberation Front wants freedom for VSI?

If so and if the peace talks break down, I may support them, but I urge your side to try and give these 'peace' talks one last shot!

OOC: Yes, go put Global Jihad to better use killing "infidel" Parthians. :p

OOC: Yes, go put Global Jihad to better use killing "infidel" Parthians. :p


LMAO !!

Just a sidenot but powerplants need to be constructed and that takes time, even the prefab ones. Besides it would be crazy to transport uranium or plutonium rods in the middle of a war, since the vehicle that transports them can be destroyed and we dont need to destroy VSI anymore than it is.

I will help out in the peace talks but I don't think I can engage in military operations at the mo as my forces are about to go into another conflict.

I am backing a crazed hispanic dictator who with his drug money is about to nuke the USA and maybe Europe, my kind of friend.

But I hope these peace talks continue not for the sake of peace but I just don't want to miss out on this war when Im in another war.

I may play crazed genocidal dictators but Im not going down Hitler's route of fighting a two front war!

I will help out in the peace talks but I don't think I can engage in military operations at the mo as my forces are about to go into another conflict.

I am backing a crazed hispanic dictator who with his drug money is about to nuke the USA and maybe Europe, my kind of friend.

But I hope these peace talks continue not for the sake of peace but I just don't want to miss out on this war when Im in another war.

I may play crazed genocidal dictators but Im not going down Hitler's route of fighting a two front war!


oooooooooooooookkkkkkkkkaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy, im never selling you WMD's again.

I will help out in the peace talks but I don't think I can engage in military operations at the mo as my forces are about to go into another conflict.

I am backing a crazed hispanic dictator who with his drug money is about to nuke the USA and maybe Europe, my kind of friend.

But I hope these peace talks continue not for the sake of peace but I just don't want to miss out on this war when Im in another war.

I may play crazed genocidal dictators but Im not going down Hitler's route of fighting a two front war!
:confused:

What did I do to warrant a blacklist!!!

I was a good customer.

Be a good capitalist and sell to whoever wants WMDs, fuck all that 'non-prolifiration' and 'world peace' crap.

Leave that BS for the NS UN!

Umm not to point out the obvious but Island City would be under our control shortly if the peace talks doesnt work. I got two Task Forces less than 40 miles from VSI and nearing, and another one escorting supplies and troops transports that can easily attack you. Not counting two Marine Divisions, less than a day away, with more being reassign for deployment in the theater later on. In other words you about to be overun and routed so think aabout it a little, you will be saving a lot of lives this way.

By the way my goverment would be easily persuaded to leave Castle alone for a good amount of valuables, anything from money to preciuos gems are accepted.
OOC: Yes, and I have a Naval Task Force with 12,000+ men. Not to mention a crapload of ships and firepower, and 12 Wings of Fighters and Fighter-bombers. So with the combined power of Willink, Spizania, the VSI Rebels, and me, I believe we highly outgun and outnumber you. And keep in mind that we don't have the IQ's of Iraqi Insurgents, our men are obviously the best of the best in our respective countries.

IC:
We would like to negotiate the release of Very Small Island from the grip of Parthia, Aust, and other occupying nations. We believe that the VSI People (or whatever's left of them) have a good chance of becoming a good country, with a good government.

Um, after you bought them from my storefront you made a post called "i have nuclear weapons !!"

Then the post was like "i have nukes and ill nuke any people that attack me muhuhahaha !!! NUKE NUKE NUKE !"

T3h N00bishlike n00k talk. Very interesting. Interesting Indeed.

(OOC)

Well I prefere nations admit to what they have rather than keep quiet about their nukes, don't you?

I mean good on India and Pakistan for making their nukes public knowledge, Isreal should now do the same as everyone and their mothers know that Tel Aviv has 200 or so nukes.

Arabanistan also only said that we would use them on nations that attacked us with nukes or WMDs FIRST, the SAME position YOU have, as the Saharistan War showed.

I have NO intention of nuking nations for fun......yet!

Here are the demands of the alliance,

1. Parthia will immediately and forever withdraw its forces from VSI immediatly.
2. All Parthian land or air forces of their active allies or protectorates currently within VSI or within fifty miles of its coasts will be disarmed and all their equipment will be turned over to allied forces,(assault rifles and pistols are exempt)
3. All Superdreadnaughts, battleships and carriers of the Parthian fleet or those of its active allies will be surrendered to the combined allied fleet intact and with all attached equipment intact, all naval forces will be disarmed save for sidearms (pistols).
4. All NBC munitions in the posestion of parthian land air or sea forces or those of thier active allies will be surrendered at once.
5. The Parthian nation will pay for all equipment lost by the allies, these payments will be supplemented by a payment of $1,000,000 for each fatality or serious injury.
6. The Pheanix nation will pay one billion dollars in reperations.
7. All Prisoners slaves or other such captives will be released unharmed at once, we will do the same.

Any other action than acception of the terms pending negotiation will result in the total annihalation or capture of all your forces in the campaign. Your choice.

How about this:

1) Parthia and her allies are to withdraw from Very Small Island, taking with them their Navies, Air Forces, and Armies
2) All damages done by Parthia, Aust, and their allies are to be payed for by Parthia, Aust, and their allies, including wartime allies (Pheanix [SP?])
3) Any prisoners taken from either sides are to be released
4) Pheanix (SP?) is to also withdraw, taking with them their Navy, Air Force, and Army stationed in and around the island

From: Very Small Island Liberation front
Our nation would like to propose a new peace plan

1: An international peace force should be brought in to occupy our nation for a short period of time until all enemy troops have been removed.

2: We will had over all the men left alive who took part in the original terror attacks and give the locations of those abroad along with members of the old government who organized the attacks. Since this was the reason for the original war then there will be no need for further attacks against our nation.

3: If we are given a loan to rebuild our country we will make reparations to the nations damaged in our attacks. We will not make payment to those who chose to invade our country for no reason.

4: Any nation that gives up territory will be able to set up companies and will be given trade concessions for a limited period of time.

5: The new government in VSI will be monitored by an international group of nations to ensure that the nation does not go down the same path as it did last time.

6: Our military shall be limited in number and if we were invaded again then we could receive back up from our allies to help us defend our nation. Our imports of military technology shall also be limited.

7: Parthian agrees to take no more slaves and agrees to kill no more of our civilians.

I think most nations would find these peace terms more realistic. We are also willing to negotiate some of these arrangements. We also ask that humanitarian aid be sent to our people, many of them need medical aid and food + water. We also ask that the people in Island City and surrounding area be given safe passage to the south of the country where there is no fighting.

The Hospital ship Charlotte is on it's way, carrying supplies and medical stations, along with disassembled water treatment facilities.

Here are the demands of the alliance,

1. Parthia will immediately and forever withdraw its forces from VSI immediatly.
2. All Parthian land or air forces of their active allies or protectorates currently within VSI or within fifty miles of its coasts will be disarmed and all their equipment will be turned over to allied forces,(assault rifles and pistols are exempt)
3. All Superdreadnaughts, battleships and carriers of the Parthian fleet or those of its active allies will be surrendered to the combined allied fleet intact and with all attached equipment intact, all naval forces will be disarmed save for sidearms (pistols).
4. All NBC munitions in the posestion of parthian land air or sea forces or those of thier active allies will be surrendered at once.
5. The Parthian nation will pay for all equipment lost by the allies, these payments will be supplemented by a payment of $1,000,000 for each fatality or serious injury.
6. The Pheanix nation will pay one billion dollars in reperations.
7. All Prisoners slaves or other such captives will be released unharmed at once, we will do the same.

Any other action than acception of the terms pending negotiation will result in the total annihalation or capture of all your forces in the campaign. Your choice.


I absolutley refuse to even consider these rediculous demands, with over 750,000 men on the ground and far more forces on the ground, it is only a matter of time before the Island is entirely mine.

I can bring in far more forces, you negotiate from a position of weakness. Thus I demand the following:

1. Spinazia immediatley pays $1 trilion for refusing to respect me.
2. Island City will be mine, for however long I wish.
3. Castle will be Pheanix territory.
4. 2.5 million slaves are immediatley given to me as reparations.
5. I'll cease all hostile actions.
6. VSI agrees to stop attacking possessions owned by Parthia, Row and Pheanix or allowing independent groups to do so.

-Shah Khosru III

Did you not look at the demands from everyone? Everyone wants you and your allies to leave the Island.

Then discharge me! I'm here to stay, and as far as I'm concerned, I can take the whole damn thing or just Island city, however, I demand Island City be evacuated of all Islanders so I can make it a Parthian colony, plus with a 5 mile buffer zone on all sides.

-Shah Khosru III

You forget, the railguns even now being installed at Fort Castle (:)), can easily hit Island City and your fleet, all your poiints are for nought.
You forget so can i, i have a free source of weaponry from Willik adn there are three hundred million islanders eager to join the allied forces.

You forget, the railguns even now being installed at Fort Castle (:)), can easily hit Island City and your fleet, all your poiints are for nought.
You forget so can i, i have a free source of weaponry from Willik adn there are three hundred million islanders eager to join the allied forces.

OOC: There won't be 1000 Islanders left in a month, and even 100 railguns won't do anything, especially since theres considerable shell drift, you'd be lucky to hit Island city. I'm currently starving the Island, killing off crops, and your railguns wouldn't be able to stand against a massive barrage of missiles.

Would you have enough kindness to let the Hospital Ship Charlotte pass?

THis is MT, Not FT.


Willinks demands:

1. Parthians must pay 10 dollars to whatever civilians are not dead.

2. Spinzania must appologize for his craptastic spelling

3. The splitting of VSI into two countries, North and south, one under parthian control and one under VSI and allies control, for an extended period, after which island city will become a Parthian colony.

4. Any attack against VIS territory will be seen as an act of war against allies of VSI.

5. If the assaults on VIS come from the sea, prepare to die at the hands of my nuclear scramjet anti-ship missiles.

Would you have enough kindness to let the Hospital Ship Charlotte pass?

OOC: No, I'd blast it with whatever I felt necessary but still safe.

IC:

I utterly and absolutley refuse any reparations whatsoever, but I find Willink's arrangement for my control of Island City acceptable. I also applaud provision two, and am willing to accept provision 4 and 5 provided VSI provide me with 3 trillion dollars in some form as well as 25% of his budget in tribute.

-Shah Khosru III

OOC: OK... But there's a frikin cease-fire, you'd be breaking it. I'm allowing the ship to continue.
edit: SkyCapt also accepts the terms for the treaty.

Willink accepts The Parthians terms, and is awaiting VIS leberational front response.

Parthians, please allow the hospital ship through.

In exchange any Parthian forces wanting to use the hospital ship may do so.

Now, let me take a look at these demands. And Spizania, the only thing funnier than your demands was Parthians rebuttal to them.

(P.S. That's a no way in hell, incase you don't know)

In exchange any Parthian forces wanting to use the hospital ship may do so.
In that case, I'll airdrop the supplies.

I will also waive the need for an up front sum of three trillion, provided it cannot be paid for at the moment and will settle for $1 trillion plus the tribute.

-Shah Khosru III

$1,000,000,000,000 plus the tribute?! :eek:

Here are the demands from VSI Liberation front, which seem somewhat reasonable:
1: An international peace force should be brought in to occupy our nation for a short period of time until all enemy troops have been removed.
2: We will had over all the men left alive who took part in the original terror attacks and give the locations of those abroad along with members of the old government who organized the attacks. Since this was the reason for the original war then there will be no need for further attacks against our nation.
3: If we are given a loan to rebuild our country we will make reparations to the nations damaged in our attacks. We will not make payment to those who chose to invade our country for no reason.
4: Any nation that gives up territory will be able to set up companies and will be given trade concessions for a limited period of time.
5: The new government in VSI will be monitored by an international group of nations to ensure that the nation does not go down the same path as it did last time.
6: Our military shall be limited in number and if we were invaded again then we could receive back up from our allies to help us defend our nation. Our imports of military technology shall also be limited.
7: Parthian agrees to take no more slaves and agrees to kill no more of our civilians.

Here are the Parthians Demands:

1. Spinazia immediatley pays $1 trilion for refusing to respect me.
2. Island City will be mine, for however long I wish.
3. Castle will be Pheanix territory.
4. 2.5 million slaves are immediatley given to me as reparations.
5. I'll cease all hostile actions.
6. VSI agrees to stop attacking possessions owned by Parthia, Row and Pheanix or allowing independent groups to do so.

Here are the demands proposed by Willink, the one in bold is the one Parthian's added in order for him to agree to them.

Willinks demands:
1. Parthians must pay 10 dollars to whatever civilians are not dead. (Parthians says no too)
2. Spinzania must appologize for his craptastic spelling
3. The splitting of VSI into two countries, North and south, one under parthian control and one under VSI and allies control, for an extended period, after which island city will become a Parthian colony.
4. Any attack against VIS territory will be seen as an act of war against allies of VSI.
5. If the assaults on VIS come from the sea, prepare to die at the hands of my nuclear scramjet anti-ship missiles.
6.VSI pays 3 trillion dollars in some form and 25% of his income in tribute.

Do you wish to agree to one of them or would you like me to combine parts of each for another one?

1. I severly doubt VSI even has a billion dollars.


2. Willink refuses to pay any tributes whatsoever or i will have green sun, Risban and Hamanistan Kick everyones ass.

Look, the Parthian's demand in Willink's treaty is unreasonable. The VSI treaty seems best, compared to the others.

why not us allies help him pay....my nation cannot stand this war...and is still unofficially helping VSI....my citizen dont know that i have deployed forces.






To:VSI
A new unit has been trained (5230 men)

How about the VSI gets 2/3's of the island, and the rest is Parthia's and Pheanix's. And Island City and Castle remains in VSI control. And the VSI's allies pay the reparition to Parthia.

I shall adhere to what The Parthians choose, we are but helping them in this conflict so thast my goverment's posture.

The Federation Diplomate is only going to be watching over these peace talks. The Federation will Remain nuetral in this isue.

1. I severly doubt VSI even has a billion dollars.


2. Willink refuses to pay any tributes whatsoever or i will have green sun, Risban and Hamanistan Kick everyones ass.

Willink doesn't need to pay anything, we want VSI to pay 15-25% of their yearly budget to Parthia. In addition to giving me any money the government has up to 1 trillion dollars. If necessary, VSI public land will be auctioned to Parthian companies to Pay for it.

From: Empress Serena

We can't come to the peace talks right now, we are busy with The War against CoreWorlds.

But we send these Demands:

(1) All VSI be placed under Hatarian Control.

(2) We will Pay VSI $ 4,000,000,000 to help them Rebuild

(3) The Hatarians will help make a new Government on VSI

(4) VSI must give us all Terrorists in their nation.

SkyCapt will pay the $1,000,000,000,000 required.

Willink doesn't need to pay anything, we want VSI to pay 15-25% of their yearly budget to Parthia. In addition to giving me any money the government has up to 1 trillion dollars. If necessary, VSI public land will be auctioned to Parthian companies to Pay for it.
Don't forget to have all VSI criminals processed in the Camel way. With brown sugar and parsnips on wheated toast and black coffee. If that'd be so obliged. Mmm. Our community shall eat well. Aye naw. If this is not enacted then we will simply kidnap small VSI children and raise them as a food source. I hope this sounds good to all involved.

King Kellin Hannon.

From: Empress Serena

We can't come to the peace talks right now, we are busy with The War against CoreWorlds.

But we send these Demands:

(1) All VSI be placed under Hatarian Control.

(2) We will Pay VSI $ 4,000,000,000 to help them Rebuild

(3) The Hatarians will help make a new Government on VSI

(4) VSI must give us all Terrorists in their nation.


All terms except term 1 are acceptalble

We second the Camel eaters demand.

-Shah Khosru III

OOC: :rolleyes: at Parthia. VSI's version was the only reasonable thing here. You people are simply attempting to sabotage any form of treaty so you can find an excuse to permanently eliminate VSI.

I agree with Axis, the Shah committed one atrocities too many in this war to be in any position to have decent chance of getting a good piece of the treaty. I wish I could fight him, would have smashed them senseless. :D

Here is a new set of demands, drawing from demands of all nations. I believe they are quite reasonable.

1: An international peace force shall be brought in to occupy VSI for a short period of time until all enemy troops have been removed.
2: VSI will hand over all the men left alive who took part in the original terror attacks and give the locations of those abroad along with members of the old government who organized the attacks.
3: VSI will be given a loan to rebuild their country, when they are able to pay it off they will. If they can’t within 100 years they can give territory or valuables to make up for it.
4: The new government in VSI will be monitored by an international group of nations to ensure that the nation does not go down the same path as it did last time.
5: VSI’s military shall be limited in number and if VSI were to be invaded again then VSI could receive back up from allied nations to help defend itself. VSI shall be limited in military imports.
7: Parthians agrees to take no more slaves and agrees to kill no more VSI civilians.
8. Parthians will be allowed to keep any and all slaves they have taken as well as Island City.
9. Pheanix will pay a small fee of $5,000 (which will be put into rebuilding VSI) to take control of Castle as a Pheanix territory.
10. Spinzania will apologize for “craptastic” spelling, as well as donate at least $25,000 to the fund for re-building VSI.

OOC:why does pheanix get castle


IC:i agree with most of it

Aust reminds all nations that we shall not be leaving or giving back the City/Port of Row and our terratory in Southern VSI. However we see that a prosperious VSI would aid our coloney, and offer to pay a large sum of money to the new goverment of VSI.

We also offer allied forces medical treatment in our hospitals in the Row terratory. We offer this service to all nations as a display of goodwill and for free.

Emporer William.

OOC:why does pheanix get castle


IC:i agree with most of it

OOC: Well both Pheanix and Parthians say that Pheanix should get castle. And it looks like Castle would have soon fallen to his hands. Plus he had men and supplies and stuff onthe way, you can't make them go back without some reperations. And it seemed unfair to give Castle to Pheanix, so he pays that nominal fee and gets it.

OOC: And Aust, yet you get to keep your land. From my understanding it's from another incident and so doesnt need to be said wheather you kept it or not.

OOC: Well both Pheanix and Parthians say that Pheanix should get castle. And it looks like Castle would have soon fallen to his hands. Plus he had men and supplies and stuff onthe way, you can't make them go back without some reperations. And it seemed unfair to give Castle to Pheanix, so he pays that nominal fee and gets it.



Bullshit, We have controlled castle the whole battle, along with having around 600,000 troops there, and it 'looks'. looks is just that, it didnt , so why should they get it ?

Bullshit, We have controlled castle the whole battle, along with having around 600,000 troops there, and it 'looks'. looks is just that, it didnt , so why should they get it ?

Would you care to offer some other city in exchange?

There are only three cities in VSI, Castle(VSI and Allies), Row(AUST), and Island city(Parthians), so why should we give up castle ?

Here is a new set of demands, drawing from demands of all nations. I believe they are quite reasonable.

1: An international peace force shall be brought in to occupy VSI for a short period of time until all enemy troops have been removed.
2: VSI will hand over all the men left alive who took part in the original terror attacks and give the locations of those abroad along with members of the old government who organized the attacks.
3: VSI will be given a loan to rebuild their country, when they are able to pay it off they will. If they can’t within 100 years they can give territory or valuables to make up for it.
4: The new government in VSI will be monitored by an international group of nations to ensure that the nation does not go down the same path as it did last time.
5: VSI’s military shall be limited in number and if VSI were to be invaded again then VSI could receive back up from allied nations to help defend itself. VSI shall be limited in military imports.
7: Parthians agrees to take no more slaves and agrees to kill no more VSI civilians.
8. Parthians will be allowed to keep any and all slaves they have taken as well as Island City.
9. Pheanix will pay a small fee of $5,000 (which will be put into rebuilding VSI) to take control of Castle as a Pheanix territory.
10. Spinzania will apologize for “craptastic” spelling, as well as donate at least $25,000 to the fund for re-building VSI.

From: Empress Serena

I agree

Willink refuses, due to term #9, Willink will not hand Castle over to Pheanix , and if removed , Willink refuses to Reconize it as Pheanix territory.

We agree to most of the demands. We ask Parthia if we could negotiate on them occupying Island city, They could occupy an area of the city along with the contracts to run some industries in Our country. We will not agree to Pheanix taking control of Castle, they did next to nothing in this war and they only joined the fighting because they had nothing else to do.

We agree to all terms, minus the Pheanix/Castle demand. This wasn't Pheanix territory during the war, but instead was a base of operations of sorts. All other demands are acceptable.

I apollogise for my spelling, my keyboard is a bit messed up, dont know why it just is, yes i agree to all the terms but #9, well you can scrub #10 it is already furfilled.

On another note, if you try to enforce #9 by attempting to remove the allies by force, you will either fail and suffer grievous losses under our guns, or succeed, suffer grievous losses under our guns and lose most of your population as willink utilises his NBC arsenal, its a bit of a catch 22, because if you ignore us it could become a rallying point for a further resistance movement.

You people get worked up over nothing...a few pages back I said I wouldnt take Castle as long as you give my goverment something of equal value to make for in reparations. My goverment is especially looking for trade concession of some kind, or mining rights or something along those lines. The Commonwealth isnt greedy for land, right now, mostly economic rights.

Currently i believe that the allied occupation of Castle is non-negotiable (at least as in handing it over to a genocidal alliance), the fact is with all the equipment being set up there within 3 months it will be nearly unassailable by the enemy forces in VSI, oh and by the way we can now hit anything within 450km of Castle with upto two thousand 15" shells.
(Thankyou Macabees)

OOC- Spinzania , VSI is only 175km wide at most..


Willink would give mining rights and land around outlieing villages in VSI, along with 600 million dollars.


This has relivance to this war....

The willink parliment set up a new defensive rule today, which would authorize the use of nuclear weapons if chemical or bilogical weapons were used against here or her allies, or civilians. This comes in light of the genocidal actions of Parthian forces, murduring almost 45,000(estimate) civilians in VSI
(Agh, i coulda blown up island city, along with half of VSI.)

Tehehe a also now have a new ICBM system, with a manuvarable warhead, and special type of material that blocks out lasers that fry the system(god bless russia !)

Forgot 1 thing again, my scramjet anti ship missiles are entering service, wil send every ally of VIS 300 conventional missiles. I have nuclear ones too.

Now that sounds a whole lot better. The land I recieved need to be near or contain a couple of mines to make it easier to excersize my newly found mining rights. Up the money to a Billion USD as we ned to replace the military hardware we lost and we have a deal. And to help rebuild VSI's economy I shall employ his citizens to work on my mines, although I may need to keep a brigade or two around to make sure my mines are respected.

Also the final say belongs to The Parthians, that is just merely a sustitution for artlicle 9 in the treaty.

Now that sounds a whole lot better. The land I recieved need to be near or contain a couple of mines to make it easier to excersize my newly found mining rights. Up the money to a Billion USD as we ned to replace the military hardware we lost and we have a deal. And to help rebuild VSI's economy I shall employ his citizens to work on my mines, although I may need to keep a brigade or two around to make sure my mines are respected.

Also the final say belongs to The Parthians, that is just merely a sustitution for artlicle 9 in the treaty.

ok, but still, you have to rp casualties from the 120 sam missiles that were flying at your planes right before the cease fire.

I know this means i can hit Pheanix's and maybe Parthia's fleet, my railguns are now able to strike anywhere in VSI. Should they attack

OOC: How many men do you have in Castle? Last count i had around 120,000

This would be a whole lot easier if we had a map of VSI

OOC: Hopefully VSI can supply this.

Im done with VIS for now, gotta go invade Doom with 2 other nations..

If VSI is happy, Im happy with the peace terms. Island city, however, is non negotiable, unless you agree to pay 15% of your yearly budget to me in tribute.

We were trying to negotiate release of Island City? http://forums.battleforeurope.com/bf1942/images/smiles/icon_hum.gif When?

We were trying to negotiate release of Island City? http://forums.battleforeurope.com/bf1942/images/smiles/icon_hum.gif When?

VSI asked, so I gave him a term.

On another note, if you try to enforce #9 by attempting to remove the allies by force, you will either fail and suffer grievous losses under our guns, or succeed, suffer grievous losses under our guns and lose most of your population as willink utilises his NBC arsenal, its a bit of a catch 22, because if you ignore us it could become a rallying point for a further resistance movement.

Is this directed at Borman Empire? Cause if so we wish you to know that you can not imagine the power we weild and the ease we could crush you with. You would surely lose, we would lose some men, yes, but that's how war goes. You would lose many many men. Chances are high (Probably above 90%) we would then invade your nation and annex it. Willink is allied and will not use an arsenal on us, but if they did; we have many many protections against them and a stockpile of weapons no doubt more than 10 fold theirs, which would then be launched on them, or anyone else who tried that for that matter. Any rebels would quickly be enslaved and die in gladatorial combat.
I'll thank you not to screw with Borman again.
And if it wasn't directed at us, well, don't screw with Borman.

Here are the list of demands for peace we have come to, please sign it.

1: An international peace force shall be brought in to occupy VSI for a short period of time until all enemy troops have been removed.
2: VSI will hand over all the men left alive who took part in the original terror attacks and give the locations of those abroad along with members of the old government who organized the attacks.
3: VSI will be given a loan to rebuild their country, when they are able to pay it off they will. If they can’t within 100 years they can give territory or valuables to make up for it.
4: The new government in VSI will be monitored by an international group of nations to ensure that the nation does not go down the same path as it did last time.
5: VSI’s military shall be limited in number and if VSI were to be invaded again then VSI could receive back up from allied nations to help defend itself. VSI shall be limited in military imports.
7: Parthians agrees to take no more slaves and agrees to kill no more VSI civilians.
8. Parthians will be allowed to keep any and all slaves they have taken as well as Island City.
9. Pheanix will be granted mining rights and patches of territory on the outskirts of Castle to excersice (sp?) those rights, as well as receive one billion dollars. Castle will remain in VSI hands.

Signed:
Chancellor Licinius of the Borman Empire
Justin Scharfe of Willink
Alex Tselis of Morvonia
Jim Narsh, President of the Incorporated States of SkyCapt

Need signatures from:
The Parthians
Pheanix
Very Small Island

Who will the 'men left alive who took part in the original terror attacks and give the locations of those abroad along with members of the old government who organized the attacks' be handed over to?

Most likely The Parthians, as I dont have any quarreled with them.

Who will the 'men left alive who took part in the original terror attacks and give the locations of those abroad along with members of the old government who organized the attacks' be handed over to?

Parthians, or if you guys dont want that I'll take them.

Also my base in the east will stay for a unditermaned amount of time to make sure east VSI stays stable until the goverment is set up.


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If you support the peace treaty leave a post with an italic signature from your leader.

Willink supports the treaty.


Justin Scharfe

The Peace Treaty is acceptable. You have our full support.

Jim Narsh, President of the Incorporated States of SkyCapt

Alex Tselis
Prime Minister of the People's Republic of Morvonia


Colonel Sabastian Colnos
Supreme Commander of Morvonian forces in VSI
and the representive of the armed forces of Morvonia

OOC: And Aust, yet you get to keep your land. From my understanding it's from another incident and so doesnt need to be said wheather you kept it or not.
ooc; Somone suggested that they should give my land to Pheanix, I was just stating that I wouldn't let that happen.

ooc; Somone suggested that they should give my land to Pheanix, I was just stating that I wouldn't let that happen.

Ok, that's fine.

Here are the demands for peace which we have reached. Several nations have signed it, and several others still need to.

1: An international peace force shall be brought in to occupy VSI for a short period of time until all enemy troops have been removed.
2: VSI will hand over all the men left alive who took part in the original terror attacks and give the locations of those abroad along with members of the old government who organized the attacks.
3: VSI will be given a loan to rebuild their country, when they are able to pay it off they will. If they can’t within 100 years they can give territory or valuables to make up for it.
4: The new government in VSI will be monitored by an international group of nations to ensure that the nation does not go down the same path as it did last time.
5: VSI’s military shall be limited in number and if VSI were to be invaded again then VSI could receive back up from allied nations to help defend itself. VSI shall be limited in military imports.
7: Parthians agrees to take no more slaves and agrees to kill no more VSI civilians.
8. Parthians will be allowed to keep any and all slaves they have taken as well as Island City.
9. Pheanix will be granted mining rights and patches of territory on the outskirts of Castle to excersice (sp?) those rights, as well as receive one billion dollars. Castle will remain in VSI hands.

Signed:
Chancellor Licinius of the Borman Empire
Miles Nove, Very Small Island Liberation Front
Erick Gonzalez, Prime Minister of the Commonwealth of Pheanix and its Outlying Territories
Shah Khosru III: King of Kings, Celestial Seed of the Divine, Beloved of Ahura Mazda (Of Parthians)
Justin Scharfe of Willink
Alex Tselis of Morvonia
Jim Narsh, President of the Incorporated States of SkyCapt

-Signed, Shah Khosru III: King of Kings, Celestial Seed of the Divine, Beloved of Ahura Mazda

OOC: The signature has to be in italics.

Miles Nove

Very Small Island Liberation Front

OOC: The signature has to be in italics.



it is in italics....is it?

Erick Gonzalez, Prime Minister of the Commonwealth of Pheanix and its Outlying Territories

The prime minister was relived that peace was made.

*********************************************************


-All forces except the 10th mountain,VSI peace taskforce(6320 men,35 T-80s,4 Mi-26 attack helicopters) are going home.


-to uphold line #4 of the VSI peace agreement...Colonel Sabastian Colnos will lead the peacekeeping forces and will be the Morvonian Representative to VSI.


-E-company of the 12th Engineers (300 men,60 crains,trucks,bulldozers.....)
are helping rebuild all the villages damaged or destroyed in the war.


-Patrols of the mountains have led to the capture of 782 terrorist suspects.


-And massive amounts of food and water are being delivered to Eastern VSI until farming can start again after the "agent orange" attacks

I officially declare peace. Thank you all nations.

Members of the Liberation Front have taken up interim positions in the government and are preparing elections, we would like to know the Value of the loan we will be given and when we will be given it. We also ask that all forces involved in the War between Arabanistan and Willink do not fight on VSI territory.

Members of the Liberation Front have taken up interim positions in the government and are preparing elections, we would like to know the Value of the loan we will be given and when we will be given it. We also ask that all forces involved in the War between Arabanistan and Willink do not fight on VSI territory.


Mckagen fired nuclear torpedoes at castle...

Did they hit?

Yes, blew up spinzanias railguns and killed hundreds of civilians

OOC: Or something like that. Actually, Spiz asked that I leave, so the Delphin was moving away, when Spiz for no reason opened up on the carrier with his railguns. I was just complying with his request, so I am not at fault. The destroyer attack on Castle was to provide cover, and to retaliate.

Well techinally they didnt destroy the guns they fried the capacitor, htere still out of action, hope Parthia doesnt take adavntage, i only have 12000 men left in castle now.

yeah

Yes, blew up spinzanias railguns and killed hundreds of civilians




OOC:when(and why)the hell did this happen!!

Mckagen did it, in the arabanistan-Willink war

Actually, due to their large solid-state construction, railgun coils would not be affected significantly by an EMP. What they are hell on, though, are integrated circuits.

THye would induce a huge current in the ocils for the guns, which would fry the firing controllers built into the capacitors, effectively knocking them out.

Can we talk about this in the thread?

Don't clutter up the threads any more than they need to be cluttered. TG each other to work it out.

Good idea, and I think Im gonna unsubscribe from this now. If there is anythign important I need to see, TG me.