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Finally, with credit to several polititians, the Obsideon Military Budget is more than ample to fund a project that has long been paid for out the Corporations own pockets. It is the Obsideon belief that anything under the sun can be packaged, promoted and sold; and this is proved as the Obsidion Genetics Corporation sets out to sell warfare in a whole new way.

We have the ways and means to 'Mass Produce' soldiers. Clones from a mix of genetic material harvested for over three decades, these soldiers are durable, adaptable, and dependable. Within our Nation there is a new market for these soldiers, keenly hired by Law Enforcement and widely used as Personal Protection. We are confident that nations who need High-Quality Infantry in a hurry could find a welcome deal.

However, in this age wars are not won by soldiers without equipment. We are looking for one or more Nations to produce and transport to us Small Arms and Vehicles for these soldiers. Armour and other equipment will be supplied by us.

In terms of Small Arms, we are looking for;

Anti-Material Rifle (aka Sniper Rifle)
Assault Rifle
Carbine
Heavy Machine Gun
Rocket Launcher
Submachine Gun

We will supply sidearms, grenades, explosives, combat knives and miscelaneous equipment.

In terms of Vehicles, we are looking for;

All Terrain Recon Vehicle
Armoured Personel Carriers
Anti-Aircraft Guns
Attack Helicopters
Electronic Warfare Support Vehicle
Heavy Battle Tanks
Light Battle Tanks
Main Battle Tanks
Minelayers
Mobile Rocket Launch Systems
Transport Helicopters
Gunship Helicopters


We would prefer only a single contractor for the Small Arms category, and a maximum of 2 for the Vehicles category. Proffits shall be calculated on a whats-done basis. The current model is;

Clone Producer - 25%
Small Arms Producer - 25% (4.16% per Firearm type contracted)
Vehicle Producer A - 25% (4.16% per Vehicle type contracted)
Vehicle Producer B - 25% (4.16% per Vehicle type contracted)


We only hope now to find product manufacturers who are as willing to be a part of this and can produce the equipment we are looking for.


IMAGE OF CLONE SOLDIERS AND BASIC INFORMATION

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OOC: If possible, i would like all material to be origional, and images self-produced if you include images at all. The deal is simple enough, when someone wants an army, you send the specified number of each vehicle to me and i send you your cut of the proffits. There will also be a 'calalogue' of sorts made, and you are expected to write a brief description with specifications on your product(s).

What tech level are you? Timeline ????-????.

((Post Modern Tech, approximately 2050-2100 but as tight as 2010-2070))

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(Erm one thing. On the pics and info on your clones, it shows the support with a carbine? Presumably he would be manning a heavy weapon? Carbines are primarily short ranged, light rifles for mounted troops. Other than that, we could be interested.)

((I have chosen Carbines for the Support classes (medics and engineers) because something as heavy as an assault rifle would hamper manouverability. It would also, whilst being perfectly capable in short-range combat, serve as a reminder that their primary role is not combat but helping those that are. It is also to keep weight down as they have more than their share of extra equipment. By Carbine i mean something like the M4, by Assault rifle i mean something like an M16A2 and by submachine gun i mean something like an MP5 or a P90))

OOC: For PMT aircraft, I'd look at Markovian megastore and New Empire's Hyland Nikolaas Industries plus here
USCNE Aircraft (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=341296&page=1&pp=15&highlight=Gyrafalcon)

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Tannenmille Arms is quite capable of manufacturing any firearms you will need, but alas we have very few vehicle construction facilities save for those needed for the military's vehicles.

Tennenmille,

All contracts are currently open but will not be signed until certain Nations have had careful considerations on the contracts. Although there are many... differences in the way we do things we believe that we can put these aside to create a new market and a new industry. Please reply with details on which contracts you are interested in, although we urge you to select something from the vehicles section as well to avoid competition with Priority Nations.

Obsideo.



((ooc: Basically, what do you want to do? Bearing in mind that anyone in the UNA gets instant priority for any contract. If they decline involvemet, i'm happy to have you take as many as you like.))

From: Ministry of Trade, Tannenmille
To: Obsideo

We assure you that Tannenmillian weapons are among the best made. However, we would not be able to fulfill the requests that you have put forth towards vehicles. We have not used helicopters or traditional land vehicles for nearly a century, just after Aven Tannen was crowned Third Reichsführer. Also, all vehicle plants in Tannenmille manufacture either civilian vessels or vehicles for Dororsyforce, the Tannenmillian Army. We, to be honest, do not have the raw materials to design and create vehicles for foreign nations. We hope you understand this.

Minister of Trade
Adam West

Mondoth Arms wishes to begin negotiations for the small arms contract, we have much experience with caseless ammunition weapons whic supply greater and cheaper amounts of high performance ammunition and lower weight, theperfect option for any soldier. We currently offer a range of full (7mm) and reduced (4.7mm) caliber weapons including a high powered assault rifle, a sniper rifle a light machine gun, a heavy machine gun and an anti tank missile launcher that doubles as an anti air missile launcher. we are currently finalizing the design of a suitable Anti-material rifle and an SMG. Additionally we have several highly customizable vehicles for filling all combat roles (except for heavy tank and Main Battle tank)

Our Parent Company (The Nine Military Storefront) Also owns an aerospace subsidiary with a highly versatile cargo and gunship helicopter.

ooc: i think small arms are spoken for, but how many vehicles can you do? if you can, do all of them as you can recieve 50% of all income.

edit: on second thoughts you can do any of the above, for a potential 75% of the proffits

((I have chosen Carbines for the Support classes (medics and engineers) because something as heavy as an assault rifle would hamper manouverability. It would also, whilst being perfectly capable in short-range combat, serve as a reminder that their primary role is not combat but helping those that are. It is also to keep weight down as they have more than their share of extra equipment. By Carbine i mean something like the M4, by Assault rifle i mean something like an M16A2 and by submachine gun i mean something like an MP5 or a P90))
Sorry I misunderstood you there. By support I thought you meant, heavy weapons etc. Sorry.

That was initially the case, but i changed it to specialist because i thought support would be a better name for medics/engineers.

Ok.
In that case Hussariot Armament Inc. would be interested in some kind of partnership.

fantastic, pick as many vehicles as you want but small arms is (hopefully) covered.

Okay, I think I wil try and develop some AA things, Ive never done this type of thing before btw! do we need pictures?

Pictures would be a huge bonus, but either make your own or dont include them at all. If you dont make any i'll give it a go, and it its not good it will be pictureless.

ooc: i think small arms are spoken for, but how many vehicles can you do? if you can, do all of them as you can recieve 50% of all income.

edit: on second thoughts you can do any of the above, for a potential 75% of the proffits

We can provide these Vehicles:
All Terrain Recon Vehicle
Armoured Personel Carriers
Anti-Aircraft Guns
Attack Helicopters
Electronic Warfare Support Vehicle
Light Battle Tanks
Minelayers
Mobile Rocket Launch Systems
Transport Helicopters
Gunship Helicopters
As well as the Small arms we previously mentioned.

Small arms have already been contracted to Doomingsland, but thanks loads for doing so many vehicles. Doomingsland might be doing MBT and HBT too, we'll wait and see.

Okay, sign me up for AA guns, Ill do a static, and 3-man portable.

Write Ive made a sort of Prototype, could I have your email, So I an mail it to you.

Our bid for the roles of:
All Terrain Recon Vehicle
Armoured Personel Carriers
Anti-Aircraft Guns
Electronic Warfare Support Vehicle
Light Battle Tanks
Minelayers
AIFV (Gorilla)
Height; 3.2 meters
Length; 7.5 meters
Width; 3.5 meters
Armament; (Infantry Vehicle) 1x turret mounted 30mm chain cannon, 1x turret mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 2x turret mounted ATGM
Armament; (Tank) 1x turret mounted 120mm low recoil, 1x coaxial mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 2x 50mm mortars, 1x ATGM
Armament; (anti air) 1x turret mounted 20mm Gattling Cannon, 1x turret mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 2x SAMs, radar targeting/acquisition systems
Armament; (Recon) 10m radio mast, 1x turret mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 3 m recon mast with radar, thermal imaging, up to 8x magnification, laser range finding, can be used to target artillery and air strikes.
Armament; (Mortar) 2x turret mounted 120mm Mortars 1x coaxial mounted 15.5mm machine gun, 1x ATGM
Armament; (common) 4x smoke deployers, OCSW mountable
Engine: Diesel Electric Hybrid for increased combat endurance and maneuverability
Speed; 54 mph (road)
5.6 knots (swim)
Price; 1,600,000,000
Troop capacity; 8
Deployment; The gorilla is designed for all terrain combat and is capable in all battle conditions
The Gorilla is a modern fighting vehicle meant to take the war to the enemy in any circumstances, equipped with a modular turret that allows a relatively easy alteration of roles, the Gorilla can operate under the most adverse of circumstances. The Gorilla is armored with a foundation layer of RHA that is covered by a layer of ceramics composites for better survivability against anti armor weapons, also includes the ability to be fitted with explosive Reactive armor to enhance survivability against armor piercing munitions.
(New turret mounts and vehicle loads are being designed even now to fill the Electronic warfare and mine warfare missions)

Our bid fo rthe role of: Mobile Rocket Launch System
MAAS (Bee Hive)
Height; 3.0 meters
Length; 6.5 meters
Width; 2.4 meters
Armament; 1x Variable Munitions artillery unit, 4x smoke deployers, OCSW mountable
Speed; 68 mph (road)
6 knots (swim)
Price; 1,900,000
Deployment: The Gator is a medium armored artillery system
Notes: The MARAS or ‘Medium Armored Artillery System’ is a state of the art artillery unit designed to excel in today’s battlefields. The Heart of the MAAS is the ‘Variable Munitions Unit’ or VMU pneumatically positioned ‘box’ capable of accepting a variety of ordnance pods from the MLRP (Multiple Rocket Launch Pod) loaded with 14x 230mm artillery rockets to the MSH or ‘metal Storm Howitzer’ capable of loading 20 tubes of electrically fired 160mm artillery shells
(the MSH system is currently not availale, however the MLRS system is fully operational and has excelled in all tests and trials.)

Our bid for the role of Attack Helicopter:
AH-71 (Red Kite)
Length: Rotors unfolded: 47 feet, 3 inches
Rotors folded: 28 feet, 5 inches
Width: Rotors unfolded: 40 feet, 2 inches
Rotors folded: 10 feet, 3 inches
Height: 9 feet, 11 inches
Weight: 10,000 depending on load.
Armament: 1 20mm. Four barreled minigun (chin turret), 3 internal hard points for ATGMs, AAMs, or 2.7in. Missile pods. External attachment points for additional ordnance or fuel tanks.
Avionics: Integrated FCD, multifunction LCD displays for sensor and instrument readouts, FLIR and Light Intensification in forward sensor turret that follows pilots’ head movements. Low profile LIDAR turret for ‘peeking’ above trees and hills and illuminating targets for missile strikes.
Engines: 2x Shrak h-15 rotors (counter rotating for extra lift and to counter torson of a single rotor) (six blades ea.)
Cost: $18,650,000
Maximum speed: 235 mph
Cruising Speed: 195 mph
Range: 2,310 mi. (Max with external fuel tanks)
Service Ceiling: +10,000
Deployment: The AH-71 is designated as an armed recon/light attack helicopter
Notes: The Red Kite is the next generation of light attack helicopters. Integrating full composite build and faceted airframe to scatter hostile radar the Red Kite features an internal weapon bay capable of loading most helicopter munitions or extra fuel tanks. For crew protection and increased survivability the cabin is over pressurized and filtered against NBC threats, the entire section is protected from High Explosive and Kinetic Energy attacks while the rest of the airframe can take a hit from anything up to a 30mm explosive anti aircraft round while remaining flyable. The Red Kite can attach ‘wings’ with hard points (1x for each wing) for additional ordnance or fuel. The ‘wings’ can be ejected in flight to quickly revert to a stealthy cross section, additionally the 20mm cannon can be retracted into a fairing to further reduce radar signature. The mast mounted LIDAR array features a very low profile to maintain stealthy profile while still providing the advantages of a mast mounted senor package. The Six bladed rotor and counter rotor gives the Red Kite the lowest acoustic signature of any helicopter in its class. The Integrated FCD is capable of overlaying sensor data on the cockpit windshield and can be easily controlled from the pilot or gunners console, this cuts down on the ‘information overload’ experienced by pilots of the famed AH-64D Apache Longbow without sacrificing any sensor capability. To reduce IR signature the engine is contained in a non-heat conducting ‘chamber’ and the exhaust is pulled through an air-cooled set of arteries running throughout the tail section before being removed from tthe system.

Our bid for the roles of: Transport Helicopter
Gunship Helicopter
VCH-43 (Goony)
Length: Rotors unfolded: 88 feet, 7 inches
Rotors folded: 47 feet, 8 inches
Width: Rotors unfolded: 54 feet, 7 inches
Rotors folded: 16 feet, 8 inches
Height: 17 feet, 10 inches
Weight: +20,000 depending on Package.
Armament: Depends on Package
Engines: 2x Shrak h-12 rotors
Cost: $19,100,000
Maximum speed: 180 mph
Cruising Speed: 150 mph
Range: 196 mi. +- depending on Package
Service Ceiling: +10,000
Deployment: The VCH-43 is designed for both naval and troop deployment
Notes: The Goony is a truly unique aircraft, consisting of a ‘base’ that contains all essential equipment cockpit and fuel tanks, and a ‘Package’ that can consist of a heavy lift crane, a cargo section, a weapons platform, and many others, packages are constantly being designed, packages typically cost 8 to 10 million but can cost much less such as in the case of a simple cargo container or much more for a mobile command suite, some packages include extra fuel tanks, hard points for weapons and Com-int surveillance gear. A second, smaller section in the nose of the Goony is also inter-changeable; this section can be replaced with an upgraded vision system for night and low visibility flying, a targeting package for guided missiles and a multi direction mini gun.
(You would be interested in the 'Cago' package and the 'Gunship' package respectively, the cargo package provides plent y of transport space for almost any light vehicle and the carrying capacity necesary for transporting large artillery pieces and other heavy loads (via winch if necesary)
The Gunship package includes three 25mm mini guns, extensive missile capability and a pair of 7.65 anti personel machine gun turrets for that extra battlefield punch)

These are fine.

try to get ahold of Weapons-tech I would think that he sells the best small arms and battle armor.... I mean look at the name....

The Kraven Corporation, would be interested in providing weapons for your nation, in exchange for exclusive use of your Cloning tanks, that are essential in the Corporations Current Project.

The High Command

Request Denied, we already have a contractor willing to produce Small Arms. However, i am sure we could reach a different agreement for our cloning technology. We do not use 'Tanks' of sorts, our refined technology has surpassed that.

However, all our cloning facilities are in overdrive because of a project different to this one. We shall let you know when they are available, or when the Executives have decided to allow a transfer of the technology.

This may take some time, as Cloning is considered Forbiden Technology in many nations and as soon as the Second Generation of our project goes through, most personel will be busy.

It is understandable, but the Corporation urges you to allow us the use of a small portion of your technology available, it is imperative that we complete this project on schedule, We are sure that some form of agreement can be made over this, reconsidering could be very benefical for your country, The Manchillian Scince Group [A Group of the Kraven Corporation] would be willing to begin an immeadiate exchange of scientists and technologies, in exchange for use of the cloning tanks immeadiatly

The High Command

You seem quite eager for this exchange, but we are not sure what technology you could offer us. Please detail your current project, as it could be quite a bargaining chip.

We are not at liberty to state the nature or the details of this project, it is highly classified, only the highest officers and scientists of the Corporation have any knowlegde of this project, however we can supply you with VTOL attack Craft and VTOL Transport craft, we can offer you more information if you are interested, The Project must be completed.

The High Comand

EDIT: IC

However, on accepting the deal, your highest class scientists and generals will be given basic information about the project so that it can be completed on time and with the minimum of fuss

OOC: TKC, give him some barebones Saradukar, that's good stuff for anybody.

OOC: TKC, give him some barebones Saradukar, that's good stuff for anybody.

OOC: lol, i would, but the Corporation is very very paranoid about other nations running around with their technologies, the only reason they are offering the VTOLS is because they need the Cloning tanks so desperatly to finish Phase 3 and 4 of the Sardaukar programe, if you thought Phase 2 (CF Class) were bad...

OOC: lol, i would, but the Corporation is very very paranoid about other nations running around with their technologies, the only reason they are offering the VTOLS is because they need the Cloning tanks so desperatly to finish Phase 3 and 4 of the Sardaukar programe, if you thought Phase 2 (CF Class) were bad...

OOC: I hate them so much I'm making anti-Saradukar rounds. I think I'd better develop a unit to take thm on though.

OOC: I hate them so much I'm making anti-Saradukar rounds. I think I'd better develop a unit to take thm on though.


OOC: I'd wait until Phase 3 and 4 have been completed before you develop anything :P I'd TG you the details, but NS is down :(

OOC: I'd wait until Phase 3 and 4 have been completed before you develop anything :P I'd TG you the details, but NS is down :(

Maybe I should offer my ASD rounds for him. :p They'll work on anything comparable, they're AM explosives, enough "BOOM" to kill a tank.

Maybe I should offer my ASD rounds for him. :p They'll work on anything comparable, they're AM explosives, enough "BOOM" to kill a tank.

OOC: Class, well ill be starting phase 3 and 4 tonite, if Obsideo grants me the use of his clone tanks, otherwise ill have to find another way of getting clone tanks :(

OOC: Sardaukar, eh? *Forumsearch*, Ah! Sorry to tell you mate, but the project my facilities are reserved for is goin to make even them obsolete, to a degree. I will send one gene sample of the project, and the blueprints/data for the cloning technology in exchange for information on the CF Sardaukar and the Sarron guy who went postal in your civil war. Do you have MSN?

IC:

The Executives have decided, and the OGC will send one gene sample of the project, and the blueprints/data for the cloning technology in exchange for what we believe to be Phase 2 of the Sardaukar Program and their CF component, and the member of the Daesus species who was present in your nation for some time.

EDIT: IC:

We would also like one fully combat effective Sardaukar of each completed phase.

OOC: Sardaukar, eh? *Forumsearch*, Ah! Sorry to tell you mate, but the project my facilities are reserved for is goin to make even them obsolete, to a degree. I will send one gene sample of the project, and the blueprints/data for the cloning technology in exchange for information on the CF Sardaukar and the Sarron guy who went postal in your civil war. Do you have MSN?

IC:

The Executives have decided, and the OGC will send one gene sample of the project, and the blueprints/data for the cloning technology in exchange for what we believe to be Phase 2 of the Sardaukar Program and their CF component, and the member of the Daesus species who was present in your nation for some time.

OOC: Yes its knev_uk@hot...

The High Command, is willing to give you a Standard squad of Phase 2 sardaukar, further more we are also willing to release the Bio sample taken from the Daesus Species, we will also supply as requested a standard squad of Phase 1 sardaukar, including the Bioagent used to create them. Including the exchange of aformentioned technologies.

The High Command

OOC: Sardaukar, eh? *Forumsearch*, Ah! Sorry to tell you mate, but the project my facilities are reserved for is goin to make even them obsolete, to a degree. I will send one gene sample of the project, and the blueprints/data for the cloning technology in exchange for information on the CF Sardaukar and the Sarron guy who went postal in your civil war. Do you have MSN?

IC:

The Executives have decided, and the OGC will send one gene sample of the project, and the blueprints/data for the cloning technology in exchange for what we believe to be Phase 2 of the Sardaukar Program and their CF component, and the member of the Daesus species who was present in your nation for some time.

EDIT: IC:

We would also like one fully combat effective Sardaukar of each completed phase.

OOC: I'm offended, you want Sarron, but no Slivers, who toasted a whole shit-pot more Saradukar than he did. This means War!!!! :p

Obsideo,
I have recently made a country called The Federation of Sobri. I am very interested in your proposal and helping you with your arms race and so fourth. My only concern is how would I supply you with weapons. As I have said before I am a new player so if you could somewhat guide me through the steps I have to take to become an ally of yours I would be very appreciative. I hope you do reply and you can also send me a message on NationStates to The Federation of Sobri. I will wait for your contact message.

OOC: I'm offended, you want Sarron, but no Slivers, who toasted a whole shit-pot more Saradukar than he did. This means War!!!! :p

Ah yes, but simply Phase 1 sardaukar :p

I represent the nation of Ukalaelia and i suport your idea. Count me in.

My only problem is that I am a new nation (just joined last night) and i am unfamiliar with how to mass-produce arms and what not. If somebody could help me with this problem, it could work out great.

Sincerely, Darth Vader of Ukalaelia