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Ideas for War (OOC: Thread)

Kjata Major
23-08-2005, 13:22
I have been thinking that II needs a good old-fashioned war. Something of which hasn't been seen in many months. Heck, I am even starting to miss DA after all this time. About the time they left I noticed a complete lack of nuclear missile warheads and armies. It's very sad kinda.

Kjata Major has one General that could change that. He's General Hein, also known as the 'Grim Reaper'. He sports Russian missile technology infused with American design and a few weird things of his own.

What do you care about? This General is evil and uses chemical warfare in every battle. He thinks he is invincible, and is just searching for a nation to declare war on.

He uses Sarin, VX and loads of other weapons from his missile launchers. He targets civilians and supply lines. He has Metal Storm technology. He'll use this to fire a mixture of chemical and biological weapons as well as conventional anti-tank and anti-personnel weapons.

Why he's a problem? He is mad, he's insane and Kjata Major is unable to boot a General out without force. The General that could do this is General Minerva, but she is tied up in a small conflict. General Hein only has one nuclear missile in his base. It's the mother of all nukes, he claims. He'll start a war for no reason if this continues. So secretly Kjata Major urges the world to stop him before he does something drastic.

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Eh some basic info on him really. This guy isn't the best General in the world either. He's fast and deadly then hides away. Kill ratios will be very very high unless everyone in the army is wearing cumbersome NBC suits which reduce their effectiveness and makes them easier targets for his dug in soldiers.

His whole strategy is dig in, attack and kill. Speedy boats and great anti-missile and anti-air weapons make him more then just a challenge. It will take some true thinking to destroy even his lighter forces when they have dug in. Or just lots and lots of nukes....
Obsideo
23-08-2005, 13:46
I think a certain general in Obsideo would challenge General Hein should he become an obstacle. Prehaps Minerva could try and bring down Hein for warcrimes, whereby Hein bribes a smaller nation to being cannon fodder and manpower for his war effort. Then Minerva could put out a request for allies or call an Obsidian General who owes him a distant favour maybe. Just ideas, but in the end its your RP.
Kjata Major
23-08-2005, 13:52
General Minerva will destroy Hein if anything. Her forces are the best in Kjata Major. He'll have no chance to respond, he'll be done for in the opening shots. It has to be Hein attacking a nation and others join into the stop them. Maybe starting a war against each other in the process.
Obsideo
23-08-2005, 14:12
Then what if the bribed nation was larger, someone around 2 or three times bigger than the whole of Kjata Major. As Minerva is currently tied up, Hein could escape to a remote island or something and launch attacks from there.

Even if Minerva is pulled out of the current situation, Hein could use his 'hit and run' style of tactics to stay moving and use guerillia warfare to wear down Minervas forces. Its possibly that some event leads lots of soldiers to leave minerva and join Hein, hampering one to aid the other.
The blessed Chris
23-08-2005, 14:21
Why not have Hein instigate a coup to seize control of Kjata Major, who will accrodingly be apposed by Minerva, with each respective side being aided and abetted by allied nations, a state of affairs that would extentuate the conflict onto a wider state.
Kjata Major
23-08-2005, 14:21
No you don't get the General System. Minerva and Hein are seperate forces. The forces are to serve Hein and Hein only. When they are drafted they are seperated between Generals and can't change sides.
The blessed Chris
23-08-2005, 14:26
Precisely, the two generals and their respective forces fight a civil war which then extends onto an international stage as concerned nations intervene to aid one general or the other. It would work I assure you.
Obsideo
23-08-2005, 14:30
I was thinking along the same lines as The blessed Chris, Minerva + Nation A vs Hein + Nation B. Hein could possibly try to have Minerva assassinated while he attempts to take the capital city by force. This would allow him to be 'Dug In', as is his speciality and the assassination would either remove his final obstacle or lead to an attempt of retaking the city.
Spizania
23-08-2005, 14:32
Interesting Idea, it only comes onto the international after that missile is launched.
OR t eh other idea is ood too, he coudl attack em i have little but Natioooonal Guard in my country at the moment so i volunteer to be the target, could the nuke malfunction though (isnt it supposed to be total rubbish) so he attacks me with conventional and chemical weapons?
The blessed Chris
23-08-2005, 14:38
The general could launch the nuke at the capital city and inadvertantly kill several ambassadors, whose nations would exact revenge and declare war.
Kjata Major
23-08-2005, 15:05
The general could launch the nuke at the capital city and inadvertantly kill several ambassadors, whose nations would exact revenge and declare war.

That's godmodding, I cannot force a kill.

Interesting Idea, it only comes onto the international after that missile is launched.
OR t eh other idea is ood too, he coudl attack em i have little but Natioooonal Guard in my country at the moment so i volunteer to be the target, could the nuke malfunction though (isnt it supposed to be total rubbish) so he attacks me with conventional and chemical weapons?

Yes, it is weak, but that's only the one inside his base. He'll launch that only if he's going to lose. The regular forces, like the chinese nuke cannon and the Bora-class ships are able to deliver some intense fire power.

I was thinking along the same lines as The blessed Chris, Minerva + Nation A vs Hein + Nation B. Hein could possibly try to have Minerva assassinated while he attempts to take the capital city by force. This would allow him to be 'Dug In', as is his speciality and the assassination would either remove his final obstacle or lead to an attempt of retaking the city.

Minerva's forces could destroy Hein in an instant. She knows everything about him and is the 'boss general' he has to make a case to her his actions for war is right. That doesn't mean bomb the shit out of a superior enemy with kill lasers and expect to survive for long. Minerva is the best and can shut down his entire base with a powerful virus, its the same tech. She knows the weaknesses of Hein and can use them better then any other nation.
The blessed Chris
23-08-2005, 15:10
I have no objections to holding a similar civil war in my nation, I envisage it as fractitious and populated by self-propogating generals and ministers, and n escalation in such a conflict in easy to see.