NationStates Jolt Archive

Recently we have began research on an always existant Worm Hole project. We are requiering that nations build gates to open up in space above their home planet, The ring Designs will be uploaded to whoever agrees to create a connection.

The Previous research was to build a regular wormhole that would last for a large battle fleet to move through, now the problem is finding out how to make one that always stays active.

The rings are HUGE in size reaching a Diameter of 6,794km. The rings are also equiped with IRIS Shields, 200 Docking ports, 2,000 SMX-30 Rail guns, and the most important part, the 3,000 WormHole generators(built around on certain places of the rings)

((OOC:If you have any suggestions for upgrades/new parts just mention it! And don't go too hard on me, I have only recently chose to reactivate my account and I have forgotten much RPing skills))

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We are interested.

How much would it cost to construct one of these gates?

The costs are still being calculated, It depends on the types of metals,generators and power used, If you want to you may also design a ring for this, but we do hope you can afford what it may cost.

Also we are debating what generators could with stand the damage that could occur from a system failure. We are still up for ideas on different generators.

BuMpItY

OOC: Oooh Stargate! And, according to science, it doesn't really take much energy to create a constantly active wormhole. You just need enough energy to stabilize the wormhole. Then you'd need antimatter to combat the singularity inside of it and you're good to go. Constantly active wormholes isn't that smart. Then your enemies could go through whenever they want and launch an attack. You should add in a mechanism that locks the wormhole or shuts it off from the system.

OOC: according to science, it doesn't really take much energy to create a constantly active wormhole. You just need enough energy to stabilize the wormhole. Then you'd need antimatter to combat the singularity inside of it and you're good to go. Constantly active wormholes isn't that smart. Then your enemies could go through whenever they want and launch an attack. You should add in a mechanism that locks the wormhole or shuts it off from the system.

((OOC:Exactly the idealist we need, and the ideas. That is an idea we will work on. I have some trouble explaining things at times so I may have made it sound different than it is x.x Though we would have to use power to connect and disconnect the gates accordingly, and they are being design for NUA use and transport frieght liners from ASC to anywhere else, so no enemy is able to access it, espacially with thier own ring.))

Auto-defenses are being programmed to react by total system shutdown if the wormhole is effected by any ring not created by ASC/others in the project. All rings will have seperate names chosen by the nation that made it.

The shield IRIS is a force field designed to bounce or destroy anything on contact. Only one nation has been known to pierce the shield, but that is because the one nation was an allie, now the nation sells shield piercers that have a limited effect on bouncers and a large effect on destroyer shields.

The ring is made out of Iron, Titanium, and Raratanium(A rare crystal metal)

The generators are still being debated which one would take the stress of activating and deactivating over time. We are open for ideal generators.

The wormhole will be made to stay active only by two main gates, that ASC will construct.

The power source is also an issue, we are working on solar power houses that would collect energy then send it through high tension wires to the rings.
We are also taking ideas for power generators.

BUmpITy

OoC: In physics, a wormhole, also known as an Einstein-Rosen bridge, is a hypothetical topological feature of spacetime that is essentially a "shortcut" through space and time.A wormhole has at least two mouths which are connected to a single throat. Matter can 'travel' from one mouth to the other by passing through the throat.The name "wormhole" comes from the following analogy used to explain the phenomenon: imagine that the universe is the skin of an apple, and a worm is traveling over its surface. The distance from one side of the apple to the other is equal to half the apple's circumference if the worm stays on the apple's surface, but if it instead burrows a wormhole directly through the apple the distance it has to travel is considerably less.

Intra-universe wormholes connect one location of a universe to another location of the same universe. A wormhole should be able to connect distant locations in the universe by bending spacetime, allowing travel between them that is faster than it would take light to make the journey through normal space. See the image above.

Inter-universe wormholes connect one universe with another. This gives rise to the speculation that such wormholes could be used to travel from one parallel universe to another. A wormhole which connects (usually closed) universes is often called a Schwarzschild wormhole.

Another application of a wormhole might be time travel. In that case it is a shortcut from one point in space and time to another. In string theory a wormhole has been envisioned to connect two D-branes, where the mouths are attached to the branes and are connected by a flux tube. Finally, wormholes are believed to be a part of spacetime foam.

There are two main types of wormholes: Lorentzian wormholes and Euclidean wormholes. Lorentzian wormholes are mainly studied in semiclassical gravity and Euclidean wormholes are studied in particle physics. Traversable wormholes are a special kind of Lorentzian wormholes which would allow a human to travel from one side of the wormhole to the other.

Serguei V. Krasnikov tossed the term spacetime shortcut as a more general term for (traversable) wormholes and propulsion systems like the Alcubierre drive and the Krasnikov tube to indicate hyperfast interstellar travel.

It is unknown whether (Lorentzian) wormholes are possible or not within the framework of general relativity. Most known solutions of general relativity which allow for wormholes require the existence of exotic matter, a theoretical substance which has negative energy density. However, it has not been mathematically proven that this is an absolute requirement for wormholes, nor has it been established that exotic matter cannot exist. Recently Amos Ori envisioned a wormhole which allowed time travel, did not require any exotic matter, and satisfied the weak, dominant, and strong energy conditions. Since there is no established theory of quantum gravity, it is impossible to say with any certainty whether wormholes are possible or not within that theoretical framework.

It is unknown whether (Lorentzian) wormholes are possible or not within the framework of general relativity. Most known solutions of general relativity which allow for wormholes require the existence of exotic matter, a theoretical substance which has negative energy density. However, it has not been mathematically proven that this is an absolute requirement for wormholes, nor has it been established that exotic matter cannot exist. Recently Amos Ori envisioned a wormhole which allowed time travel, did not require any exotic matter, and satisfied the weak, dominant, and strong energy conditions. Since there is no established theory of quantum gravity, it is impossible to say with any certainty whether wormholes are possible or not within that theoretical framework.

Lorentzian traversable wormholes would allow travel from one part of the universe to another part of that same universe very quickly or would allow travel from one universe to another universe. Because wormholes not only connect spatial locations they would also allow time travel.

Often there is confusion about the idea that wormholes allow superluminal (faster-than-light) space travel. In fact there is no real superluminal travel involved. Assume that the wormhole connects two remote locations. While traveling through a wormhole subluminal (slower-than-light) speeds can be used. The time in which the distance was traveled would appear faster than it would take light to make the journey through normal space.

A wormhole could potentially allow time travel. This could be accomplished by accelerating one end of the wormhole relative to the other, and then sometime later bringing it back; relativistic time dilation would result in less time having passed for the accelerated wormhole mouth compared to the stationary one, meaning that anything which entered the stationary wormhole mouth would exit the accelerated one at a point in time prior to its entry.

The path through such a wormhole is called a closed timelike curve, and a wormhole with this property is sometimes referred to as a "timehole."It is thought that it may not be possible to convert a wormhole into a time machine in this manner, however; some mathematical models indicate that a feedback loop of virtual particles would circulate through the timehole with ever-increasing intensity, destroying it before any information could be passed through it.

This has been called into question by the suggestion that radiation would disperse after traveling through the wormhole, therefore preventing infinite accumulation. There is also the Roman ring, which is a very stable configuration of more than one wormhole.

This ring allows a closed time loop with stable wormholes. The debate on this matter is described by Kip S. Thorne in the book Black Holes and Time Warps, and will likely require a theory of quantum gravity to resolve.Many physicists, including Stephen Hawking, believe that due to the problems a wormhole would theoretically create, including allowing time travel, that something fundamental in the laws of physics would prohibit them.

However, this remains speculation, and the notion that nature would censor inconvenient objects has already failed in the case of the cosmic censorship principle.

Wormholes known as Schwarzschild wormholes are theoretical bridges between areas of space that are thought to be found in the center of a black hole and white hole, joining two universes. They exist in solutions to Einstein's equations, and are thought to be extremely unstable, and would instantly fall apart once created. Some speculation exists that quasars are actually white holes instead of supermassive black holes.

It is impossible for a traveller to go through this type of wormhole because they can only go through a horizon in one direction. If the traveler is formed of non-exotic matter once they reach the center of the Schwarzschild wormhole then, they can't leave the other side, and they can't leave through where they came since the side they came in though was a black hole, meaning nothing can escape it once inside the Schwarzschild radius.

T.t

Already been done. Look up the intergalactic trade hub thread.

((OOC:My nation too has to learn things, so if you are going to send in "its already been done" or "its impossible" posts, THEN DON'T DO IT AT ALL!!

OoC: I didn't say it wasn't possible, I said it was highly unprobable, theres a difference. Much like Ball lightning, although highly unprobable it is completly possible(ball lightning being made of Nitrogen plasma, and having no relivance here). However be careful not to add a large amount of gravity, or you will end up with a black hole, above your planet(which is good for no one), I was just trying to educate, not say it was impossible.
~By definition a black hole is a region where matter collapses to infinite density, and where, as a result, the curvature of spacetime is extreme. Moreover, the intense gravitational field of the black hole prevents any light or other electromagnetic radiation from escaping.Applying the Einstein Field Equations to collapsing stars, German astrophysicist Kurt Schwarzschild deduced the critical radius for a given mass at which matter would collapse into an infinitely dense state known as a singularity. For a black hole whose mass equals 10 suns, this radius is about 30 kilometers or 19 miles, which translates into a critical circumference of 189 kilometers or 118 miles.If you envision the simplest three-dimensional geometry for a black hole, that is a sphere (known as a Schwarzschild black hole), the black hole's surface is known as the event horizon. Behind this horizon, the inward pull of gravity is overwhelming and no information about the black hole's interior can escape to the outer universe.
See VERY different from a wormhole.

OoC: I didn't say it wasn't possible, I said it was highly inprobable, theres a difference. Much like Ball lightning, although hihgly unprobablt it is completly possible. However be careful not to add a large amount of gravity, of you will end up with a black hole, above your planet(which is good for no one), I was just trying to educate, not say it was impossible.

OoC:sorry, big misunderstanding, just please tell if it is inprobable instead of making it seem like youre saying its impossable.

OOC: Then you'd need antimatter to combat the singularity inside of it and you're good to go... You should add in a mechanism that locks the wormhole or shuts it off from the system.

Goodluck. Antimatter, is extremely volitale. If it comes into contact with any matter, lets say...air. There wil be an explosion of cataclysmic proprtions. If you have a tylenol worth of it, thats a 20 kiloton explosion. I suppose if you kept it in a vacuumed container with some sort of device to creat an electromagnetic field you could hypothically contain it. But if your city explodes i hold no responsability. Also, the idea of "containing" a wormhole is rediculous. Its not like you can screwa cover on top like you can a jar. At least be practical about it. I realize it sounds like I am saying that this is not doable, I am only trying to help...

((OOC:Its not a problem, at least you are being helpful and stating that you aren't saying its impossable. I also heard a lot about anti-matter and its forces :D My friends always keep reminding me about it for some reason >.>))