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F-76 Liberator Advanced Air Superiority Now for Sale!

Space Union
19-08-2005, 21:49
F-76 Liberator

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OOC: Picture by Imported_Illior and Space Union :)

Overview:

The F-76 Liberator is the first of the 2nd Generation of aircrafts being produced by Tylon Aerospace Industries. It is intended to be the next-generation air superiority fighter that will dominate the battlefield no matter what the adversary. It will give any of its users an advantage of its adversary. The F-76 combines stunning technology with the pilot to get unprecedent capabilities. It is intended to replace the F-314 in the Space Union Air Force, though it is much more costly than the origional. In the end it is highly stealthy, manuverable, and low maintaince compared to any other aircraft on the battlefield and will ensure air superiority for a very good chunk of time.

Airframe:

The F-76 Liberator moves much away from the origional doctrine of TAI, by being totally redesigned. Unlike former aircrafts that use mainly Inconel, the F-76 Liberator uses all composite material on its airframe except for the engines. This has been done because of the need for stealth in this highly dangerous world, yet still maintain the manuverability of its predecessor, the F-314. The use of composite material for the body has also made it light-weight compared to its predecessor. This gives it the distinct advantage of better manuverability than heavy-weight aircrafts.

The aircraft is designed with a cropped delta-wing similar to the one featured on the F-16 Falcon but enlarged to the size of the delta-wing on the F/A-22 Raptor. This allows it to have considerable less coverage area that will allow for radar to bounce off. Unlike the F-22 or F-16, the F-76 features canards on the front of its nose. These have been added to provide considerable more lift compared to the F-314. But with this comes the problem of applying flaps to the wings. Deploying flaps causes a large nose-down pitching moment, but in a conventional aeroplane this effect is considerably reduced by the increased downwash on the tailplane which produces a restoring nose-up pitching moment. With a canard design there is no tailplane to alleviate this effect. To overcome this problem, the canards have been swept. This allows for flaps to be applied to the design without compromising the safety of the aircraft and its crew.

Another change to create a more stealthy aircraft, was the dropping of the vertical tail. This was done to further lower the RCS and make the F-76 stealthy. Not only that, but it greatly improves the manuverability of the aircraft. But because of the loss of the vertical tail, the aircraft is less stable. To solve this problem, the flight is assisted by computers similar to used in the B-2 Spirit and the F-117 Nighthawk.

To ensure that the F-76 is stealthy, all the weapons are carried in the two bomb bays of the aircraft. Both bays are on the underside, belly of the aircraft. The aircraft houses 8 missiles in the first bay and 3 GBU-35 1000-lb BLU-110 smart bombs in the second bay. This ensure that the weapons don't interfere with the RCS of the aircraft and give it away too easily to radar or other tracking devices. But if needed, 4 (2 on each wing) hardpoints each capable of carrying 5,000 lbs of weapons can be added on the outside of the aircraft. But the use of the hardpoints will increase the RCS, so beware.

To keep the aircraft manuverable still, it has a lowered weight compared to older aircrafts. Lower weight has been accomplished by having a powerful array of good weapons inside of the aircraft, yet not overdue it. Not only that but the entire plane has been constructed from ultra-lightweight composite material. This has allowed for the weight to much smaller compared to other fighters yet offer capabilities superior or matchable to heavier fighter aircrafts. The light-weight also makes the F-76 Liberator more agile than other aircrafts. This characteristic translate into better manuverability than other heavier aircrafts, meaning that it will dominate dogfights no matter the enemy.

The most drastic leap in technology for the F-76 was the addition of electric reactive armor to the airframe. Proved in tank combat, it has been since adapted to the F-76. It works by having two electrically charged plates separated by an insulator. When an incoming body penetrates the two plates and closes the circuit, a high current and voltage will flow through the penetrator, attempting to vaporize it, significantly reducing the resulting attack. The electric reactive armor is outside of the normal skin so that it gives the aircraft limited armor.


To add more stealth to the airframe, it is coated all-over with an RAM coating.

Propulsion and Engines:

The F-76 uses brand-new Union-172-2005 pulse-detonation engines, developed purposely for the F-76 Liberator. Each Union-172-2005 puts out an outstanding 61,000 lbs of thrust for a net thrust of 122,000 lbs of thrust. The pulse-detonation engine works by creating a detonation instead of the normal deflagration that occurs in normal jet engines. Instead the air rushing inside of the engine, comes at supersonic speeds instead of subsonic, which causes a detonation upon igniting of the air instead of deflagration. To make sure that the air exits to the back, the engine uses shockwaves generated by the ignition to act as shudders/valves. When the shock wave reaches the rear of the engine and exits the combustion products are ejected in "one go", the pressure inside the engine suddenly drops, and air is pulled in the front of the engine to start the next cycle.

The use of the Pulse-Detonation engine instead of a regular engine has increased the efficiency of the entire aircraft. Normal engines have an efficiency of 30% while the Union-172-2005 has a fuel efficiency of 45%. This means that the aircraft will be considerably less fuel hungry and have much bigger range and higher speed. In fact the pulse-detonation engine allows the aircraft to go to speeds of Mach 3.4 although it cruises at Mach 2.7 to avoid the structural problem associated at Mach 3+.

One problem in the design has been the loud noise caused by the pulse-detonation. To solve this the engine has been surrounded by open-celled foam. The open-celled foam dampens the sound while still being light-weight and not adding much weight to the engine. Another mechanism used is the fan in the front of the engine. The fan sucks in much air, sending most of it as bypass air. This bypass air helps dampen the sound too, the same effect used in turbofan engines. But to really quiet the engine down, QuietCraft has been applied to the outside of the engine. It has decreased the sound by 75%.

Both engines also feature thrust vectoring in an entirely new way. Engineers at Tylon Aerospace Industries have perfected the new technology called fluid thrust vectoring. Tests have shown that air forced into the exhaust stream can effect deflected thrust. Fluidic nozzles are desirable for their lower weight, mechanical simplicity (no moving surfaces) and lower radar cross section compared to older mechanical thrust vectoring. The fluid thrust vectoring method allows for the same benefits of the old thrust vectoring method, yet is much cheaper, much more maintaince-friendly, and overall more stealthy to fit with the new image for the F-76 Liberator.

The thrust vectoring capability also adds the capability of the aircraft to take-off and land vertically. This greatly improves its mobility without adding costly secondary engines. One final thing in the engine is its ability to supercruise past Mach 2. Although the speed limit is undisclosed.

To make sure the engines fit in the stealth profile of the aircraft, the

Avionics/Electronics:

In order to make sure that the F-76 Liberator controls the sky it has to have the best technology in electronics to date. But even that wasn't enough for the designers. Instead the goal of the electronic suite for the F-76 was to merge the pilot and aircraft, creating the ultimate fighting weapon ever to take to the sky. Meet the IAIVS Interface. IAIVS stands for Integrated Avionics Incorporated Virtual Systems. It is the successor to the BAP Suite, previously used on older aircrafts designed by Tylon Aerospace Industries.

The IAIVS Interface allows for unprecedent vision for the pilot. Instead of using glass window and HUD for the pilot and helmet is used. Built-into the helmet is also an advanced virtual reality environment that projects the environment outside of the aircraft. Using over 50 cameras (5 main and 45 small), a supercomputer, devoted to the job, can create a stunningly realistic environment that goes down to every detail. It literally allows the pilot to see around the aircraft 360 degrees in every direction. This gives the pilot an unprecedent vision that can't be matched by any other current aircraft to date. To help the pilot better see his environment, the virtual reality has two views, one as if the pilot were actually the plane and the other behind, in-front of, or on the side of the aircraft. This better enables the pilot to fly the aircraft in his/her preference and flying style. To help the pilot understand all about his environment, when messages come up concerning maintaince, tracking, guidance or other matters, it is displayed right in-front of him/her so that the pilot knows what is happening. When targetting, a green box will appear around the enemy(s) that the pilot wishes to engage, when it turns red, that means the missile(s) are locked on. Then it is up to the pilot to fire the missile(s).

To help the pilot in his flying style, an advanced voice command system complements the controllers and joystick. It allows the pilot to speak the commands instead of having to click buttons. In the export version, this feature isn't given away. For that reason only the domestic version (available only to me and allies and a select few) will have both voice command system.

Other systems employed by the aircraft are the use of advanced radar and LIDAR/LADAR systems. The computer uses a AN/AQ-76 Active Electronically Scanned Array and LIDAR/LADAR System to provide guidance for the aircraft and targetting. This system is capable of tracking up to 50 targets at the same time, though in the real-world that power won't be needed.

To make sure that the pilots fully understand how to fly the aircraft, customer will be given a manual for each aircraft detailed with flight operations and a flight trainer for every 100 F-76s bought. Allies only.

Electronic Countermeasures (ECM):

To defend itself against possible threats, the F-76 Liberator is designed with a couple of ECMs to stop threats. The most advanced of these is its Active Radar Cancelling System. It works by having multiple sensors on the skin that pick up incoming radar signals. The computer then studies the signals and outputs a signal that makes the receiving computer misjudge the location of the aircraft. This is mostly used against missiles although this is being deployed against aircrafts during dogfights.

Another weapon used against incoming missiles is MASERs. The F-76 shoots MASERS at incoming targets to fry their electronics and cause a premature explosion. This works in conjunction with the Active Radar Cancelling System.

The simpler ECMs that the F-76 has are a set of 10 flares in the side of the aircraft. They can be shot out of the side-panels automatically by the computer, if the pilot has the feature on, or manually by the pilot.

Weapons - Armenant:

The F-76 Liberator is outfitted with a deadly array of weapons that will ensure that it will be ready for any situation. All of the aircrafts standard weapons are housed inside of the aircraft. The aircraft has two bomb bays: the Missile Bay (MB) and the Smart Bay (SB).

The Missile Bay houses the dogfighting missiles that will be used by the F-76 when it engages the enemy. It is capable of holding 8 missiles. The 8 missiles can be either AIM-9X, AIM-120, or AIM-132. Depending on the mission, the array can be customized. You can even have all 8 missiles be of the same type if you choose.

The Smart Bay houses the smart bombs. It is capable of holding 3 GBU-35 1000-lb BLU-110 smart weapons. This bay can be outfitted to carrying 1 GPU-24 2,000 lbs smart bomb and is able to carry other bombs that don't exceed 3,000 lbs.

Along with the bomb bays, the F-76 is outfitted with a GAU-12 25mm Equaliser Gun incase of a close-range dogfight.

Although on standard model there is no hardpoints to allow for a smaller radar-cross section, but the aircraft can be modified to support hardpoints at the customers own will if he desires. The aircraft can support 4 hardpoints, 2 on each side. Each hardpoint can hold 5,000lbs worth of weapons. But the RCS suffers if the hardpoints are added.

Note: The hardpoints are capable of carrying fuel tanks. But the fuel tanks have to be 5,000 lbs or under.

Specifications:

Type: Advanced Air Superiority Fighter
Length: 23 m
Height: 5 m
Wingspan: 16.5 m
Powerplant: 2 Union-172-2005 Pulse-Detonation Engines rated at 56,000 lbs of thrust each
Empty Weight: 16,000 kg
Full Weight: 52,800 kg
Normal Payload: 5,000+ lbs
Maximum Payload: 25,000 lbs
Cruising Speed: Mach 1.7
Maximum Speed: Mach 3.6
Operational Altitude: 65,000 ft
Maximum Altitude: 87,000 ft
Armenant w/o Hardpoints (Standard Payload): 1x GAU-12 25mm Equaliser Gun, 2x AIM-9X Sidewinder, 6x AIM-120 AMRAAM , 4x GBU-35 1000-lb BLU-110 Smart Bombs
Range: 2,200 miles
Crew: 2
Price: $140 million

Export Version: The export version doesn't contain the highly sensitive technology in the domestic version. Here are the list of changes in the export version:

-Advanced Voice Command System (AVCS) has been removed. If the customer wishes, the entire virtual reality can be scrapped and the conventional controls can be put into to replace them.
-The export version has slightly weaker engines called the Union-171-2005 PDE rated at 52,000 lbs of thrust

Cost: $110 million

Allies do not receive any discount because of their access to the domestic version instead.
Tilsitsin
19-08-2005, 22:19
Tilsitsin would like to purchase 2 aircraft to participate in our "Future Fighter Aircraft" competition. We prefer 1 machine with standard controls and the other with VR controls. Also, if the fighter is selected as our standard machine, is there a possibility of a license-building contract in addition to a normal quantity order?

$540 million has been wired for this initial purchase, and our air force test pilots look forward to putting these machines through their paces.
Halberdgardia
19-08-2005, 22:35
OOC: Re-post from teh other F-76 thread:

OOC: Two questions: can I have the domestic fighter, but with the virtual reality system scrapped in favor of conventional controls, with the advanced voice-recognition system as a backup? Also, would you consider offering production rights to an SWC buddy? If so, I'd take them for the modified domestic version I've specified above.
Willink
19-08-2005, 22:46
I think your my ally so i would like to order 3 domestic fighters for 900 million, if i am not allied i will accept the export version.
Space Union
19-08-2005, 23:03
To: Tilsitisin
From: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
Subject: Order

We thank you for your purchase of two F-76 Liberators. We hope they succeed in your Future Fighter Program. If you could, we would be pleased if you could send us updates on the program. Thank You. Also we are sorry, but we have to decline the production rights for the F-76. We don't offer them to anyone. Sorry.

Signed,
CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon

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To: Willink
From: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
Subject: Order

Your order for 3 Domestic Version F-76 have been confirmed. They will arrive in a few months. We hope that they serve with pride and dignity in your Air Force. Thank You.

Signed,
CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon

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To: Halberdgardia
From: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
Subject: Order

We are happy to confirm your order of 1 F-76 modified. The modified version will be built and sent to you immediately. As for production rights, sorry but we have to decline that because we currently offer production rights to no one. Sorry. But we hope that the plane serves with pride and dignity in your Air Force. Thank You.

Signed,
CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon
Tilsitsin
19-08-2005, 23:10
Mr. Tylon:

It is my honor to submit to you the link to our fighter competition, in which your machines will take place: Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=439011). We will keep you updated on their performance, and also on our final decision regarding a choice of fighter to serve as the main fighter in our national inventory.

Regards,
Jamen Horthy
Major General, Tilsitsinian Airforce
Director, Aircraft Design and Acquisition Office
Space Union
19-08-2005, 23:39
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Halberdgardia
19-08-2005, 23:40
To: Halberdgardia
From: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
Subject: Order

We are happy to confirm your order of 1 F-76 modified. The modified version will be built and sent to you immediately. As for production rights, sorry but we have to decline that because we currently offer production rights to no one. Sorry. But we hope that the plane serves with pride and dignity in your Air Force. Thank You.

Signed,
CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon

To: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon, Tylon Aerospace Industries
From: General Charles Henley, Chief of Staff of the Air Force, the Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Re: Purchase

We understand your reluctance to sell production rights, so we would like to instead place and order for 143 F-76 Liberator fighters (modified as the one before), to augment the one you are already sending us. What will the price be for the modified version? We will wire payment upon confirmation of our order.

Respectfully,
General Charles Henley
Chief of Staff of the Air Force
The Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
Space Union
19-08-2005, 23:58
To: General Charles Henley
Chief of Staff of the Air Force
The Democratic Imperium of Halberdgardia
From: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
Subject: Order

Your order for 144 F-76 Liberators has been accepted. The price for an individual modified version of the F-76 will be $295 million. That will come out to a full price of $42.48 billion. Your order will be completed in 2 years. We hope they serve with pride and dignity in your air force.

Signed,
CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon
Halberdgardia
20-08-2005, 00:29
*payment wired*

[OOC: Because I'm too lazy to write up the formal reply with message tags and such. :p]
Space Union
20-08-2005, 01:15
*payment wired*

[OOC: Because I'm too lazy to write up the formal reply with message tags and such. :p]

Got it :)

Bump
DMG
20-08-2005, 03:28
To: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
From: Supreme Allied Commander Fir'Eth,
The Dominion of DMG
Subject: Order

The Dominion of DMG would like to purchase two F-76 Liberators for testing purposes. If our test crew and panel of air force veteran pilots okays the purchase than we will be purchasing 2000 fighters. Due to the size of the order and the urgency in which the Dominion of DMG requires the order, how long would it take to complete?

The Ministry of Defense would like to inquire about a possible modification to the plane. Without removing the hardpoints is it possible to add fuel tanks that would give the plane another 600 km for its range? If so, how much would the plane weigh, how would the speed be affected, how would the total armament be affected, and what would the knew price be?

*$540 Million wired to Space Union for two Export Verson F-76 Liberators*
Space Union
20-08-2005, 15:57
To: From: Supreme Allied Commander Fir'Eth,
The Dominion of DMG
From: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
Subject: Order

We are happy to confirm your order for two F-76 Liberators. We hope they pass your testing requirements.

As for the modifications. We suggest that you put fuel tanks on the hardpoints, as they can carry 5,000 lbs of anything, including fuel tanks. Modifications are not needed. We hope this helps.

Signed,
CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon
Space Union
20-08-2005, 16:33
*Added Picture, though its not the greatest.
imported_Illior
20-08-2005, 16:36
*Added Picture, though its not the greatest.
OOC: Need a better one?
Space Union
20-08-2005, 16:40
OOC: Need a better one?

Sure. :)
imported_Illior
20-08-2005, 16:48
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4861/suf13kp.th.jpg (http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=suf13kp.jpg)
Here's one, got another view coming in a minute

Here's the other view
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/6871/suf22mp.th.jpg (http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=suf22mp.jpg)
Space Union
20-08-2005, 17:49
Those are extrordinary! Can I use them?
Choptoria
20-08-2005, 18:02
choptoria would also like to purchase 10 airplanes
DMG
20-08-2005, 18:18
To: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
From: Supreme Allied Commander Fir'Eth,
The Dominion of DMG
Re: Order

Upon inspection and testing of the plane our crew and panel were thoroughly impressed. The Dominion of DMG has decided to purchase 2000 Export Version F-76 Liberators. Over the next few years we will be ordering more planes to put into service and if there are no newer planes ready by then, we will be ordering another larger shipment of F-76 Liberators.

How many years will it take to manufacture and deliver the entire order? We are currently retiring our older F-15s at a fast rate than originally thought and need a replacement very soon.

*540 Billion dollars will be wired as the time of confirmation of this message*
Space Union
20-08-2005, 18:53
To: DMG
From: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
Subject: Order

We thank you for being impressed by our aircraft. But we are sad to inform you that you do not have sufficient funds to buy the 2,000 aircrafts nessessary. Please make a much smaller purchase.

Signed,
CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon

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To: Choptoria
From: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
Subject: Order

We are happy to confirm your order for 10 F-76 Liberators. They will be shipped in a few months. We hope they serve with pride and dignity in your air force.

Signed,
CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon
Space Union
20-08-2005, 19:13
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DMG
20-08-2005, 19:17
To: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
From: Supreme Allied Commander Fir'Eth,
The Dominion of DMG
Re: Order


I am sorry to not have informed you earlier about this, but The Dominion of DMG is in an alliance with Guerreros. This purchase is a joint purchase by the Alliance and I am sure you will see that we have enough funds to cover the 2000 F-76 Liberators.

DMG Defense Budget:
Defence: $338,464,380,276.00
Guerreros Defense Budget:
Defence: $295,063,927,200.00
Total Defense Budget:
Defence: $633,528,307,476.00

Signed,
Secretary of Defense,
Authorized by: Supreme Allied Commander Fir'Eth
The Silver Sky
20-08-2005, 19:19
OOC: Hmm, it seems DMG is or has a puppet....
Guerreros
20-08-2005, 19:20
To: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
From: President Mura'Raf
Subject: Confirmation

I am confirming an order made by The Dominion of DMG with the joint funds of the alliance. Both our funds and The Dominion of DMG's will be used to complete this order. It should be enough money and the wire should go through.

*Confirmation of funds wired to Tylon Aerospace Industries*
The Silver Sky
20-08-2005, 19:22
OOC: I smell puppets, 3 of 'em
DMG
20-08-2005, 19:23
OOC: Yeh sort of. I have a puppet nation in a separate unrelated region. I created Tasai to be my UN member nation because I didn't want DMG having to follow the UN resolutions. I accidently logged in with that one when I was making my post.

(P.S. Guerreros is a friend of mine, not a puppet. Only Tasai is a puppet)
The Silver Sky
20-08-2005, 19:25
OOC: Yeh sort of. I have a puppet nation in a separate unrelated region. I created Tasai to be my UN member nation because I didn't want DMG having to follow the UN resolutions. I accidently logged in with that one when I was making my post.

(P.S. Guerreros is a friend of mine, not a puppet. Only Tasai is a puppet)
OOC: It's fine with me, I just want SU to know.
DMG
20-08-2005, 19:26
OOC: I understand completely. But lets not continue to flood this board with our OOC comments about my nation ;)
Space Union
20-08-2005, 19:29
To: Supreme Allied Commander Fir'Eth,
The Dominion of DMG
From: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
Subject: Order

We are sorry to say that we still have to deny your order. We have a policy from Space Union government, that doesn't allow us to sell to collective alliances of any entity unless specified by the Space Union government. We can only sell to single entities. We are deeply sorry for this "problem".

Signed,
CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon
DMG
20-08-2005, 19:40
To: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
From: Supreme Allied Commander Fir'Eth,
The Dominion of DMG
Re: Order

Very well... The Dominion of DMG would like to order a total of 1250 Export Version F-76 Liberators for a total of $337.5 Billion


Signed,
Secretary of Defense,
Authorized by: Supreme Allied Commander Fir'Eth
Guerreros
20-08-2005, 19:42
To: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
From: President Mura'Raf
Subject: Order

The nation of Guerreros would like to purchase 750 Export Version F-76 Liberators.
Space Union
20-08-2005, 19:48
Both orders confirmed.


OOC: Sorry, have to rush.
imported_Illior
20-08-2005, 20:29
it goes without saying, If i make em for you, you can.
Space Union
20-08-2005, 20:31
it goes without saying, If i make em for you, you can.

That was a stupid question :p
Red Tide2
20-08-2005, 20:42
Official Message From Red Tide Goverment
"We know the Tech-Com Corporation wont like this, but they havent been showing any good tactical stealth aircraft. Anywho, we would like to purchase 500 F-76s for the Current Air Gaurd. We would also like to know if they are capable of carrying air-surface missiles, unguided bombs, and tactical nuclear and chemical munitions(we already know they are capable of carrying guided bombs)? If they are, we would like to purchase 100 extra for surgical strike purposes. The total comes to: 135 billion without the extra 100 planes, 162 billion with the extra 100. planes. Thanko you."
End Message
Space Union
20-08-2005, 20:48
To: RedTide2
From: CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon,
Tylon Aerospace Industries
Subject: Order

We thank you for showing interest for the F-76 Liberator. Your purchase of 500 of these have been accepted for $135 billion. As for your question: the F-76 is capable of carrying any guided, unguided, or nuclear bomb in its bomb bay as long it is 3,000 lbs or under, thanks to the adjustable internal hardpoints. Also you could use the 4 optional hardpoints on the exterior wing, which can carry 5,000 lbs each of any weapon. If you are pleased by our answer, we will add the additional 100 aircrafts. But for now we confirm your 500 aircrafts.

Signed,
CEO/Chairman Raja Tylon
Red Tide2
20-08-2005, 21:08
Official Reply
"We are very satisfied. We will take the extra 100 for 162 billion dollars which are being wired as we speak."
End Message
Space Union
20-08-2005, 21:24
Order confirmed.

OOC: Too lazy to do professional layout ;)
Space Union
20-08-2005, 22:24
bump
Space Union
21-08-2005, 00:25
bump
The Silver Sky
21-08-2005, 00:30
OOC: Hey Space Union. Want to work together on a new fighter better then both mine and your's?
Space Union
21-08-2005, 00:32
OOC: Hey Space Union. Want to work together on a new fighter better then both mine and your's?

Sure but I guess that this fighter will have the shortest lifespan ever in history ;) I have some work to do but can we talk about it on Monday. I have 3 projects that I'm working on. Also me and Pushka are working on a fighter that's been on hold for a long-time. We could work as a team on it. How does that sound?
The Silver Sky
21-08-2005, 00:35
Sure but I guess that this fighter will have the shortest lifespan ever in history ;) I have some work to do but can we talk about it on Monday. I have 3 projects that I'm working on. Also me and Pushka are working on a fighter that's been on hold for a long-time. We could work as a team on it. How does that sound?
OOC: Actually, I think other fighters have had shorter lives(my last on lasted 10 hours...), and sure, I'm actually working on a pic of what I think it should look like...
Space Union
21-08-2005, 00:55
OOC: Actually, I think other fighters have had shorter lives(my last on lasted 10 hours...), and sure, I'm actually working on a pic of what I think it should look like...

Alright, so I'll inform Pushka then.
Space Union
21-08-2005, 03:13
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Space Union
21-08-2005, 15:35
bump
Pushka
21-08-2005, 18:09
Wow Space Union you came a long way man. Nice aircraft.
Space Union
21-08-2005, 18:57
Wow Space Union you came a long way man. Nice aircraft.

Thanks :)
Space Union
21-08-2005, 23:39
bump
Space Union
22-08-2005, 01:48
bump


OOC: I might come out with a F-76B including some stuff I let out so that I could do more research on. Not confirmed, though. ;)
Space Union
22-08-2005, 02:32
bump
Space Union
22-08-2005, 14:17
bumpage
imported_Illior
22-08-2005, 14:33
bump


OOC: I might come out with a F-76B including some stuff I let out so that I could do more research on. Not confirmed, though. ;)
I got some Ideas if you want, one I already developed and one that's coming...
Space Union
22-08-2005, 14:46
I got some Ideas if you want, one I already developed and one that's coming...

No thanks. I'm keeping this one origional for me. :)
imported_Illior
22-08-2005, 14:58
No thanks. I'm keeping this one origional for me. :)
Fine! Hmph I'm just tryin to help a soon merger( if we ever get to that oh and how's the website goin)...
Space Union
22-08-2005, 15:39
Fine! Hmph I'm just tryin to help a soon merger( if we ever get to that oh and how's the website goin)...

It's going fine. I'm still working on it but got the main page done :)
imported_Illior
22-08-2005, 15:54
It's going fine. I'm still working on it but got the main page done :)
TG me the address...
Space Union
22-08-2005, 16:51
TG me the address...

Almost. Not yet. :)
Space Union
22-08-2005, 17:43
bump
Duaneish
22-08-2005, 20:02
My country has shown great interest in this new jet. My defense department wishes to make inquiry for prchase...ASAP :D
Space Union
22-08-2005, 20:41
My country has shown great interest in this new jet. My defense department wishes to make inquiry for prchase...ASAP :D

We'll be happy to see your order.
Darvainia
22-08-2005, 22:01
The price is very steep, but our defense budget is at an alltime high, so we'll take 50.
Space Union
22-08-2005, 22:56
The price is very steep, but our defense budget is at an alltime high, so we'll take 50.

Your order is confirmed.
Space Union
23-08-2005, 00:19
bump
Space Union
23-08-2005, 01:24
bump
Space Union
23-08-2005, 02:04
bump
DMG
11-09-2005, 21:14
DMG Military Industries would like to inquire whether or not sales licenses are available and if so, for how much?