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Stargate RP idea

Nebarri_Prime
19-08-2005, 08:01
Now I’m sort on time so my spelling and grammar will most likely be terrible, not to mention the post it self will most likely look sloppy. But I’ll fix it as soon as I get a chance. Anyway

the idea is that we each play a different group, but most are limited the way it works is

only one person can be Humans from Earth, Tok'ra, or replicators (though I don't think we should have replicators, I’ll just wait and see what people think) the rest or the people that sign up can be the leader of a human controlled planet other than earth, a goa'uld system lord, or an Asgard fleet commander. Fleet limits will be set eventually to make them more even

suck as a Ha’tak class ship might be worth 10 points and a Death Glider might be worth 1. (Assuming you have 100 points) you can have and combination from 50 DGs and 5 Ha'taks to 10 Ha'taks and no DGs or all 100 DGs

that’s the basics on fleet power and stuff, but I have to go, I’ll answer and questions next chance I get
Geuvara
19-08-2005, 09:29
tag
Yallak
19-08-2005, 10:07
Super Enthusiastic TAG
Christs Own Legion
19-08-2005, 10:29
I would join but I hink that a points RP would be foolish, how about a caracter RP? 1 persons, O'Neil, anothers Sam, a Thirds Daniel(ME) and you have somone as T'ik (SP). You could others as Hammond, Baal, the president ect.

Of course we need a scinario. I#'ll think of one up if you OK this idea.
Ankhmet
19-08-2005, 11:27
A stargate character RP... That would be PANTS. The best bit about stargate is the batlles. The characters are (let's face it) a distraction fromt he shiny things and explosions.
Tomzilla
19-08-2005, 15:54
TAGing this, seems to be very interesting.
Draconis Nightcrawlis
19-08-2005, 16:03
A stargate character RP... That would be PANTS. The best bit about stargate is the batlles. The characters are (let's face it) a distraction fromt he shiny things and explosions.

A character RP with battles would be a good idea.
Christs Own Legion
19-08-2005, 19:42
A stargate character RP... That would be PANTS. The best bit about stargate is the batlles. The characters are (let's face it) a distraction fromt he shiny things and explosions.
Maybe you think that, personally I find the carcaters the best bit, seeing how the react and the whole secrecy thing, and you can have a caracter Rp woith battles.
Moorington
19-08-2005, 19:46
I have had enough character RPs to know that they are really boring and to much, "I got super bazzoka of immensly inpoportiant size that is called the Death Bazzoka, plus it is hand carryable so you can have two, for the low low price of two 1/100 of the main currency." So no Character RPing and I like the point value on the ships and then more points every...week?


I would like to be humans please with 2 of those Human built ships seen around with 10 human modified puddle-jumpers.
The tokera
19-08-2005, 19:47
you can defidently count me in. I like the point idea more also
Draconis Nightcrawlis
19-08-2005, 19:54
I have had enough character RPs to know that they are really boring and to much, "I got super bazzoka of immensly inpoportiant size that is called the Death Bazzoka, plus it is hand carryable so you can have two, for the low low price of two 1/100 of the main currency." So no Character RPing and I like the point value on the ships and then more points every...week?




And stat RPing is not like that?

Besides this is a Stargate RP, the only tech allowed will be Stargate tech so things like that won't exist.
Moorington
19-08-2005, 19:59
[QUOTE=Draconis Nightcrawlis]And stat RPing is not like that?QUOTE]

You got it right. :p
Draconis Nightcrawlis
19-08-2005, 20:05
Stat RPing is alot worse. You have less then 100 posts in two months so how can you say that you've had enough character RP's to know they're bad? I've been here two years now and have seen alot of good character RP's, it all depends on who you RP with, I'm guessing you've had the misfortune to join threads full of terrible RP'ers
The tokera
19-08-2005, 21:32
i dont exactly like character rps either
Illicia
19-08-2005, 21:51
TAG for joining, gathering more info when its up.
Mondoth
19-08-2005, 22:56
I like the points idea but it needs some refinement (probably more points per fleet and add a lot of other ship classes and infantry and whatnot) Also, there aren't just those races, granted races like the 'tollan' haven't displayed ships I bet they have some, or some of the more obscure races might be made available.
The tokera
20-08-2005, 05:44
well theres not alot shown about asguard just ships, gou'ald I am sure there could be more technologies.
Nebarri_Prime
20-08-2005, 05:44
Ground combat will be allowed, but I don’t know how the Asgard would fight that way, I am going to give you a list of all the races I know anything about. I have just recently become able to watch stargate regularly again and the first time I was about nine years old. So I don’t know much about the tollan. But you bet I’ll look them up

So this is what I have

Goa’uld
Asgard
Wraith (even if they are not present in our galaxy)
Human/Tau’ri
Other Human
Replicator (maybe to powerful for an RP)
Tok’ra
Rebel Jaffa

And I don’t like character rps either, at least not for this. Mostly for the fact that playing O’Neil would mean having to act just like him (though some might pull it off) and this is somewhat a character RP


Also I have all the ship classes I know of on a list and I’m giving them point values and with what I have in mind I think 1,000 points will be enough for this
The tokera
20-08-2005, 05:58
If anyone has seen the new seasons you could use the ori or whatever they are called. But they would be too powerful and would probibly be considered a godmod. you could base it on the new season and have the Goa’uld and Tau’ri go up against the ori, and could even find places for the asguard. Maby have a wraith hive ship and fleet accidently find its way into the solarsystem, replacators return from like another galaxie or some survived the last season.
You could make it a semi character rp where like you choose a gould to lead your armies that has some specialty like better technology, a new weapon, better knoledge of tech. But I would go with the ori idea and possiblly bring in ancient technology. It would be fun to try to come up with a idea to try to stop the ori.
Chronosia
20-08-2005, 06:03
Tag
Nebarri_Prime
20-08-2005, 06:12
If anyone has seen the new seasons you could use the ori or whatever they are called. But they would be too powerful and would probibly be considered a godmod. you could base it on the new season and have the Goa’uld and Tau’ri go up against the ori, and could even find places for the asguard. Maby have a wraith hive ship and fleet accidently find its way into the solarsystem, replacators return from like another galaxie or some survived the last season.
You could make it a semi character rp where like you choose a gould to lead your armies that has some specialty like better technology, a new weapon, better knoledge of tech. But I would go with the ori idea and possiblly bring in ancient technology. It would be fun to try to come up with a idea to try to stop the ori.

I would like having some Wraith find our Galaxy. the Ori are to powerful for anyone to RP, and it would be fun to try fighting them. But i also like ship to ship fighting and we don't even know what Ori ships are like. as for Goa'uld, they arn't very powerful with no Jaffa, and i was looking forward to being a System Lord that wasn't going to have to use his Human slaves. (perhaps we could have it be an alternet uni?)

the semi character rp would be good though :)
Yallak
20-08-2005, 07:58
A character RP with battles would be a good idea.

A Character RP would just be a bunch of people trying to replicate the characters from TV with alot of talk and not as much explosions.

I am all for a point based\all out conflict stargate RP

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Nebarri_Prime you should add the rebel Jaffa as another race option.
Nebarri_Prime
20-08-2005, 08:22
the idea is you have your points and you can battle/make alliances. mostly its for combat. but we do need to make our main charicter


added Jaffa


BTW

i don't know if the Goa'uld Tel'tak Cargo/Scout ships have any weapons (i don't think so) and a Wraith Cruiser is comparible to a Ha'tak right? just making sure


sorry for spelling i'm not checking it right now
Yallak
20-08-2005, 08:46
the idea is you have your points and you can battle/make alliances. mostly its for combat. but we do need to make our main charicter


added Jaffa


BTW

i don't know if the Goa'uld Tel'tak Cargo/Scout ships have any weapons (i don't think so) and a Wraith Cruiser is comparible to a Ha'tak right? just making sure


sorry for spelling i'm not checking it right now

No Cargo ships don't have weapons - only cloaking ability and self destruct. Wraith Cruiser = Ha'tak sounds about right
Nebarri_Prime
20-08-2005, 09:15
ok, this is my first draft for ship points, remmember we will get something like 1,000 points each. but point amount can be changed or ship value can be.

Replicator ship: 50

Hive ship: 100
Cruiser: 20
Dart: 1

O'Neill: 30
Beliskner: 25

Ha'tak: 20
Pyramid ship: 15
Al'kesh: 5
Drop ship: 2
Tel'tak: 1
Death Glider: 1
Old Fighter: 1

Daedalus: 15
Prometheus: 10
Puddle Jumper: 2
X-302 fighter: 1

this is based on what i know about the tech they all have and the fact i don't know much about Wraith ships. any other ship classes i'm missing please tell me and what they would be compared to give or take a little
Christs Own Legion
20-08-2005, 13:07
Points would be to hard, I'm not stargate buff, I know the caracters, I watch the shows but points things usually evolve into stat fests, as for the anti-caracter RP thing I don't know where you got that idea from:


Bin Loc village...

"...approaching from the south. Casualties are---high, estimates --- five-hun--enty-three million... Air Def----enters are recall-------servists..." Hoa Pham turned the radio off, and looked outside, at the streams of fire rising in the distance.
"What's going on, Father?" his daughter asked from inside the house.
"We are being invaded." he said. and turned. "Wake your brothers and sisters, and your mother. It won't be long now..." as he said it, he heard the footsteps outside.
"John, I expected you to come a bit later." Hoa said, and turned to the open door.
John Franklin was standing outside, cradling his rifle.
"Sorry to be early, Hoa, but the District Leadership has activated all the Militias between level four and level five." Franklin said.
Hoa nodded, "It's true, then... very well. That includes my oldest, doesn't it?" he asked.
Franklin nodded, "High School Seniors are part of it-your wife is exempt from the call up because of the younger children."
Hoa nodded again, and opened the hall closet. He reached in, and extracted three rifles.
His two oldest sons came out of their rooms, Thomas looked sleepy, his brother Dinh adjusted the dark glasses on his face.
"Boys, do you have-?" Dinh lifted his pack, "Already done, father, both of us."
Hoa nodded, and handed his sons their rifles. "Fine, keep your heads down, and stick close." They joined the others gathering at the Village armoury.
Meanwhile, those too young (or too old) began filtering into bolt-holes prepared over decades by generations of families, of villages, under the direct protection of those exempted from the call-up-mothers with young children, mostly, or the sole surviving military-aged children of elderly or disabled parents.
The Muzzle-flashes exploded below. Dinh was a Junior in the Village School, but the Army Counselor was already helping him plan for graduation.
He sat as still as the trees, as his brother Thomas (voted most likely to need retraining by the senior Class) collapsed.
The Austians were pretty-well camouflaged for night operations, Dinh could make out their shapes as they moved about. The flashes from their muzzles lighting the area like searchlights.
He chose one-near the rear of the grouping, and aimed.
"Boom!" He switched targets, focusing on one carrying some kind of support-weapon. "Boom".
His shots were chosen carefully, and he jacked one round at a time through his rifle-a gift from the Army Counselor, it wasn't the standard Garand, it was an M-1917 fitted with a scope-and the scope was in turn fitted with a light-blocking filter, to ease his sensitive eyes.
He rotated the bolt, and moved- sliding behind a rubber-tree, as the Enemy began to rush his last position.
They stood out, to him, like men in the street wearing dull clothes might to someone who lives in daylight. He spotted one that seemed to be giving orders. Centre the crosshairs, lead... right below the chin...The sensation of a glass-rod breaking-and-"Boom".
He slipped into the undergrowth. Going back for Tommy would be pointless now, the foolish older brother, if he was still alive, would either be finished by the invaders, or taken prisoner.
Though things will be harder when the sun rises... he thought ruefully.
Behind him, a line of Claymores and bouncing betties erupted-showing that the enemy had reached the crest of the hill, and had managed to not see the simple trigger until it was too late.
Hmmm... I don't remember leaving those there...

not far from the drop zone

Lt. Farmer's Platoon spotted the parachutes, and radioed them in, then, they moved southward, away from the area the bulk of the ASS troops were coming down.
"That's the Plantation, isn't it?" Hoa Pham asked. The Lt. nodded, "Yeah... it is. fancy that. Do you suppose they know they're landing in a minefield?"
Hoa shrugged, "Maybe. if it were me, I'd have one of those fighters go back and get a cannister of fire-suppressing foam, then use the blown airfield for an LZ."
The two old men looked at each other. "Do you really think they'd consider bringing ordnance to put fires out?" Farmer asked, as they marched.
"No. We would, but somehow, I don't think they're thinking that way." Hoa answered.
They reached a stand of old hardwood, and spread out.
"How long before they head for the Village?" Hoa asked, passing time.
"Not long, I give 'em thirty minutes." the Militia Leutenant replied.
The south edge of the Plantation erupted.
"Well, they found some of the mines the kids put in..." Another series of detonation-flashes lit the night.
"And the ones your kids put in. At this rate, we're going to have to get more. They're going to use them all up..." Farmer whispered wryly.
Hoa shrugged, and slid up behind a large tree root.
"don't count the payments till the Harvest is in- those boys're gonna be hot when they realize how much area's been mined around here-foreigners seem to think you have to stand up toe-to-toe and fight 'Honourably' like a damn fool..."
Another series of detonations erupted.
"They've got Night vision devices...they should be more careful where they step." Farmer whispered.
Hoa shook his head, "with all due respect, sir, there are at least ten of them coming this way. I suggest you get down, and pick a target."


You've gpt a hell of a battle (Eventually around 400 million people died in this RP, but caracters coming through. You also have to rember much of Stargate is about the small nature of the teams, eg the 4 members of SG-1. The real power of the show comes through it's caracters, not through it's huge battles.

Points would be hard, especially for a human player, what ships od the humans have, the Permithious and 1 type of fighter. They should get killed dead if it wasn't for the sectrecy of earths location and the fact they've been lucky.

A caracter RP can emulate this, a Sat Rp cannot, and a stat RP is what your suggesting. I was involved in a stat RP (See the Warhammer 40k RP, the first one I was in) and it died, it ended with a massive fight and a load of people bickering about stuff like:
'your titens can't do that'
'they can, look in the rulebook',
'in the rulebook it says they can move 6" a turn"

Real life isn't like that, but almost a;ll non-caracter RP's end up like that, hell look at happned to my latest one, I tried to put a basic MT RP out and now I've got people arging about weather or not Laser cannons count as MT.
Aust
20-08-2005, 13:10
Tagz
Moorington
20-08-2005, 16:58
I'm picking up on the humans but not Earth humans....

Mars Class Space Frigate- 250 Points (2)
2 Rail Guns
10 Mislle Tubes
30 Fighter Craft Dock

Nova Class Starfighter- 20 (20)
2 Fighter-Fighter rail like guns (Mini)
4 Fighter-Fighter Missles (Sidewinder)
2 Fighter-Capital Ship Bombs

White Dwarf Class Starfighter- (25) (2 with TNB0
1 Na-Quada Enhanced Thermo-Nuclear Bomb (Additional 20 points)
10 Assorted Na-Quada Enhanced Conventional Bombs
Aust
20-08-2005, 19:13
I'll be the earth humans. Oh, I'm COL as well, just for you all to note.
Steinbrech
20-08-2005, 19:46
I might join in later, just let me have some time....

TAG
The tokera
21-08-2005, 00:58
i found some info on wraith tech.

Wriath dart
Small, short-range ship designed to fit through the stargate or be launched from a Hive Ship.
Armed with both energy weapons and a beam capable of transporting living beings to and from the
ship, the dart thus doubles as an attack fighter and a vessel for harvesting humans for later
feeding. In atmosphere, it flies with a loud raspy whine, and it appears to be able to dial
stargates, suggesting that it might carry some version of a DHD.

Hive ship
Largest known Wraith vessel. A hive ship forms a major base of operations for the Wraith as they
travel through the galaxy, harvesting their human herds. The ship is also well-armed with energy
weapons for defense or offense, as necessary.When the Wraith conclude one of their periods of
culling, the hive ship lands on a planet and becomes their place of hibernation. Because centuries
may pass during this hibernation period, during which the hive ship is guarded only by a few
conscious Wraith, the ship itself is often camouflaged into the landscape, leaving almost no
evidence that it is a ship at all.According to information obtained from a data storage device,
there are 21 hive ships in Atlantis's quadrant of the Pegasus galaxy, and at least 60 more in
other regions. Some are already awake and on the move, while more are awakening all the time.

wraith stunner
Large handheld Wraith gun, several of which have been captured in combat and now form a part of
Atlantis' arsenal. The stunner fires an energy beam that causes temporary paralysis by overloading
the body's sensory and motor nervous systems.Although the front end of the weapon is sharp enough
to use as a bayonet, the gun is clearly meant to disable rather than kill; the Wraith prefer to
capture humans for later feeding rather than kill them outright.Depending on how directly the
energy beam hits the body, the victim may experience brief conscious paralysis or be knocked
completely unconscious for a period of time. A "pins and needles" feeling is common in victims
recovering from a stunner blast.Team Atlantis personnel have captured a small number of these
weapons for study.
Ankhmet
21-08-2005, 01:05
I'd quite like to be Goa'Uld....

Anubis is the coolest :D
The tokera
21-08-2005, 01:13
also you can get tech information about most stargate stuff at http://www.stargate-tech.net/ground/goauld/goauld.htm just click more for each category and you can get most gould weapons, tauri, tollan, asguard . there are three asguard ship classes
Beliskner class Mothership
O'Neill class Mothership
Daniel Jackson class Mothership

Unit: Tollen Sidearm
Manufacturer: Assumed to be the Tollan military.
Type: Personal Energy Weapon
Maximum Range: Observed maximum range of 10 meters
Clip Size Unknown
Ammunition Unknown
Known Modifications: None


While the Tollan may have had little to fear on their planet in terms of ground troops or hostile armies thanks to their planetary defence networks, the security forces on their planet do retain a sidearm they use for their defensive duties. The weapon is essentially a stylised and hollowed out triangle. The base forms the hand grip. The two other sides meet at the emission point where an energy beam is released at a target.

When fired, the weapon emits two tributary pulses at the base of the two firing sides. These converge at the emission point and form into the final beam, which is released at the target. This beam then impacts upon the target and expands into a field that covers an entire person. As this effect fades, the person appears to be rendered unconscious. It is unknown if this is the case or if the person is actually killed. However it appears unlikely given the Tollans advanced technology and morals, that they would build personal weapons only able to kill.

The weapon does have its disadvantages though. From pulling the trigger to the beam leaving the weapon, a good half a second will pass. It is enough time to easily miss a fast moving target. As Nerim showed when he ran out of a room with a guard trying to shoot him, the bolt hitting where he had been rather then where he was. The weapons are also best described as an ergonomic nightmare, conceivably very difficult to aim beyond a range of a few meters. However it is possible that there is some form of computer aided auto aiming built into the weapons. When Colonel O'Neill fired upon a Tollan Guard with one of these weapons, his aimpoint and the direction the weapon took to the target were considerably different. It is possible the weapon simply locks onto (if there is one) the nearest life form to aiming point and corrects the beam. This would be both a help and hindrance in a large scale battle, but this is an unlikely event on Tollana and as such, the weapon works for what it was designed to do.
Nebarri_Prime
21-08-2005, 03:38
ok, ship lists updated, working on infintry point system. mostly i just need an idea of how many points we should all get





this isn't just a stats rp, we do need to name are leaders and some lesser people, if that helps end the arguments.
The tokera
21-08-2005, 04:11
are you going to do tollan
Nebarri_Prime
21-08-2005, 04:14
i'm working on them, i'll add them when i think i have what sounds good
Yallak
21-08-2005, 10:36
I'll so go the Asgard.

If you need any help in getting this set up Nebarri, just send me a telegram with what you need done.
Nebarri_Prime
21-08-2005, 10:58
ok well seeing as your still online, and i'm going to bed. could you make a new thread. the tread will be for fleet signups only

with

Race
leaders name
fleet (example) 10 Ha'tak class
50 Death Gliders


other things will be added hen i have them worked out

and remember, the ship point value is on page 2 i think. and you get 1,000 points total to spend on you fleet (tollan can be added but i have no stats on there ships. not even names and i'll work on the rest of them)
Yallak
21-08-2005, 11:13
Ok no worries
Yallak
21-08-2005, 11:18
Is there a race that you want to be - so i can put it in the post and noone will then be able to claim it?
Aust
21-08-2005, 13:00
I'll be the earth humnas and i'll take:
Daedalus: 15
Prometheus: 10
20 Puddle Jumpers: 40
35 X-302 fighters: 35

100 points.

Can somone post specs of human ships please?
Nebarri_Prime
21-08-2005, 18:58
Daedalus is most just a larger more powerful form of the Prometheus class

Prometheus is armed with sevral rail guns and naquada nuke missile launchers

Puddle Jumpers have cloak tech and 6 "Anchent drone weapons" i'm not sure but i think they are the same weapons launvhed from the chair in atlantice

X-302 has 2 mini rail guns? if not then 2 Vulcan canons and 4 hardpoints for naquada missiles
Nebarri_Prime
21-08-2005, 19:16
Is there a race that you want to be - so i can put it in the post and noone will then be able to claim it?


I'm going to play as a Goa'uld system lord
Aust
21-08-2005, 21:10
Daedalus is most just a larger more powerful form of the Prometheus class

Prometheus is armed with sevral rail guns and naquada nuke missile launchers

Puddle Jumpers have cloak tech and 6 "Anchent drone weapons" i'm not sure but i think they are the same weapons launvhed from the chair in atlantice

X-302 has 2 mini rail guns? if not then 2 Vulcan canons and 4 hardpoints for naquada missilesTa, see signup theread.
Nebarri_Prime
22-08-2005, 00:08
http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=439279&highlight=Stargate
The Ctan
22-08-2005, 15:45
Please stop cutting massive portions of Stargate Tech's content please, you're welcome (and encouraged) to link to it but it's rather... irritating to see things you wrote turn up all over the place.