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Foxtrot-Class SSK

Slebira
19-08-2005, 02:28
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/images/foxtrot-DNSN8706257.JPG
Length: 299 feet, 6 inches
Beam: 24 feet, 7 inches
Draft: 20 feet
Displacement: 1,952 tons surfaced, 2,475 tons submerged
Construction: 3/8 inch outer light hull comprising ballast tanks.
7/8 inch QT28 Nickel Steel pressure hull.
Complement: 12 officers
10 midshipmen
56 seamen
Maximum Diving Depth: 985 feet
Speed: 16 knots surfaced
15 knots submerged
9 knots snorkeling
Range: 20,000 miles surfaced at 8 knots,
11,000 miles snorkeling
380 miles submerged at 2 knots
Endurance: 3 - 5 days submerged
Propulsion: 3 x Kolomna 2D42M diesel engines, 2,000 hp each.
3 x electric motors; 2 with 1,350 hp and 1 with 2,700 hp.
1 x auxiliary motor with 180 hp.
3 x propeller shafts, each with 6 bladed propellers.
Torpedoes: 22 maximum
Radar: Surface search: Snoop Tray; I band.
Sonar: Herkules medium-frequency active/passive.
Feniks passive search/attack.
Electronic warfare: Stop Light, Radar Warning.
Quad Loop Directional Finder.
Price: $85 million
Slebira
19-08-2005, 02:51
Vessels in Service
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S-18
S-22
S-33
S-56
S-78
S-37
S-45
S-12
S-75
S-87
Rheingua
19-08-2005, 04:30
OOC:Hm,2 million for a sub? You buy tanks at that price.Try something in the middle 100 millions
SkyCapt
19-08-2005, 05:11
Apparently it's cost effective. Take advantage of this low price (as seen on TV) before it's gone! But seriously, bump that price up by about $90,000.
Artitsa
19-08-2005, 05:18
$100 Million max. Its a cheap boat, obviously.
Novikov
19-08-2005, 05:25
OOC: Thank you for not building an uber-sub and for not falling into the mistaken assumption that only SSNs are useful in a modern navy.

(I reccomend the pricebe raised to 76 - 85 million USD)
Aysheaia
19-08-2005, 06:33
You can have fun with that one. Diesel electrics are the quietest subs submerged. The US Navy is routinely embarrassed by how close modern German diesel electrics can get to battle groups in war games...

(Aysheaias subs are all non-nuclear, too. For just that reason...)
Clan Smoke Jaguar
19-08-2005, 11:16
OOC: Actually this is the real Foxtrot class, with stats copied directly fromGlobalsecurity.org (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/641-specs.htm). The only thing he put himself is the price, which, as noted, is WAY too low (Foxtrots each cost more than that when they were originally produced almost 50 years ago).
As suggested above, this is also an ancient design, and is more likely a show of lack of technology rather than any espousing of diesel-electrics, of which this is a rather weak example. While conditions exist where it might be useful, the Foxtrot is a completely obsolete design, They have poor quieting, poor sensors, and poor submerged endurance, and the few that are still in existence aren't really operational.
Ironically, the smaller Romeo class is far more likely to be run into these days (several dozen in China, several in North Korea, and a few upgraded ones in Egypt, all operational). Either way, these almost certainly won't be attacking any carriers.
Kjata Major
19-08-2005, 11:27
If this is true:

380 miles submerged at 2 knots

Then it will be easy prey for ANYTHING modern. You aren't going to sneak up going 2 knots with modern detection systems. Also the range is so limited that it really isn't worth submerging.

Now for the surface, it is kinda decent. Though also shoddy. Sure it has a better speed, but it is also very easy to destroy like this.

Now if you sent 100 of these against a Nimitz carrier...I'd be wondering on how it would react, since the carrier can bomb you and still speed away despite it being much larger!

Clan Smoke Jaguar is right, its completely worthless against a modern navy, but for those with low-budgets or a poor naval force these things will be more useful.
Slebira
19-08-2005, 16:07
OOC:Price Updated

IC: We are designing more modern subs, but she all we got.
Hogsweat
19-08-2005, 16:26
You can have fun with that one. Diesel electrics are the quietest subs submerged. The US Navy is routinely embarrassed by how close modern German diesel electrics can get to battle groups in war games...

(Aysheaias subs are all non-nuclear, too. For just that reason...)
Yeah, did you hear that a Dutch diesel electric killed a US CV and half it's battle group in NATO wargames?
Oh, and he copied the entire design.

And I already have a foxtrot SSN in service <.< >.>
Slebira
19-08-2005, 16:34
We are buliding a newer vessel codenamed: Peinkoffski.