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The Powers doctrine:

The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 04:09
August 17th
Federation Council Building
New Union City, Terra Prime


The speaker stood up smiling and reading aloud a document to the assembled audience:

“Today is a day where the Union stands up to chaos and disorder in the cosmos! Death destruction, tyranny and oppression will no longer hold sway! As of today at 1600 hours GFT, we, the Council of the United Federation of Planets, have passed this document which will set the ground for us to help fledgling nations within our sectors of space to grow and prosper peacefully. We will not allow said nations to be mowed down by imperialist warmongering races that seek nothing but glory and expansion.

We, the Council of the United Federation of Planets do hereby resolve,

Section 1: All hostile, imperialistic, and malignant nations shall not be allowed in Alpha or Beta sectors in order to safeguard the nations of those sectors. Any attempts at building hostile outposts or moving war fleets in these sectors will result in an act of removal by the Federation. The United Federation of Planets will not actively engage unless provoked by fleets outside the sphere of this act; the whole hearted discretion to enforce this act is given to Starfleet.

Section 2: Nations with hostile intent shall not be allowed to parade forces within the span of this protected area. However, if they demonstrate peaceful intentions to trade, share knowledge, or assist nations in need they will be allowed under this article within with scope of this jurisdiction. Bases built with hostile intent or fleet yards established in these sectors shall not be permitted to be active within these sectors protected by the Federation. However, all peaceful trade and research facilities shall be permitted to be in service within sectors covered by this article

Section 3: All nations’ holdings in the Sol system and with already established bases in Sol system are exempt from this article as Sol is a neutral area. However, any nation caught attempting to undermine the authors of this document or attack innocent nations within the jurisdiction of the Federation will be dealt with by appropriate measures.
Chronosia
18-08-2005, 04:20
Marcus de Drakan audibly yawned as he sent forth his reply to this...presumptive message from their old foes. For too long had the Fedral Union thought of itself as self-appointed police, judge, jury and executioner of space and time. He chuckled softly; too often had their paths crossed with these zealous little miscreants.

"The Imperium recognises not the soverignty of the Fedral Union in any matters outside its own meager holdings; and advises them that any attempt to enforce their pathetic laws outside of their own borders shall be met with open defiance. By what mandate do you make yourselves sherrifs of the stars? By what grace do you declare yourself as law over two whole quadrants. Crawl back under your rock; and pray that others are not as tolerant as we."
The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 04:23
If you chose to defy this then it will be the end we will not invade you nor attack you, but we will enforce it with in these 2 quadrants, if you make attempts at undermining us and attacking nations who have done nothing we will make sure you rue the day
Chronosia
18-08-2005, 04:27
"Again; we ask for proof that you control and are the established police force of these two quadrants. A piece of paper does not a law make. I am sure that other nations in these quadrants do not want a screaming child playing cops and robbers and invoking the wrath of powers beyond its scope. The Imperium recognises no law of the Union outside of the Union's borders and shall not, until proof that the Union controls, polices and maintains international and foreign space is presented. You shall rue the day you grew too big for your boots"
The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 04:31
We say do you care to test that theory ?
Xanthal
18-08-2005, 04:33
Public statement:

The Socialist Republic of Xanthal does not recognize the authority of the Federation in creating or enforcing laws outside of their own territory, nor do we believe its presumption of righteousness acceptable. We also find the Federation and its allies realistically incapable of carrying out the operations that enforcement of this doctrine would require. The Alphini unanimously condemn the Federation President and Council for their imperialist action on this matter, and declare that no offensive action against the Socialist Republic or its allies will be tolerated, nor any other Federation action we deem inappropriate condoned. We recommend the immediate retraction of the document by the Federation Council to prevent the conflict that it will doubtlessly compel; one that the Federation cannot possibly win.

Yătzĭl Ämsi, First Alphin of Xanthal
Eko Oeşe, Second Alphin of Xanthal
Päröseos tö Mĭf, Third Alphin of Xanthal
Hobbeebia
18-08-2005, 04:34
Federal union Please say you have proof of control..... just to get Chronosia on egde.....lol see ya Chronosia
The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 04:38
Ok then I do have proof of control!
Central Facehuggeria
18-08-2005, 04:40
The Human Empire heard Terran Prime’s declaration, and after giving it due consideration, filed it away with other unenforceable moral declarations and continued on with the glorious task of cleansing the universe of all non-human sapient life. If anything, the Empire stepped up the razing of alien worlds, blasting their civilizations away with accelerated asteroids, or poisoning them with potent wide-vector viral weapons. Occasionally, an Imperial vessel landed troops and exterminated the race up-close and personal, crucifying most and selling the survivors into slavery. It depended on the commander, naturally. But the one thing that all agreed upon was that the Xeno must be excised from the universe by any means necessary.

After all, was it not humanity’s god-given right to ensure its own supremacy? To ensure that it would never be threatened by alien powers again? The Human Empire obviously thought so. The anti-alien crusades continued, much as they had centuries and millennia before, an inexorable culling of epic proportions that left billions of sentients dead, and billions more under the cruel yoke of the Imperial slave-master. Elves were being used for pleasure, Wookies for labor, and ‘furries’ for target practice.

The Empire had heard the Federal declaration, and did not pay it heed.
Chronosia
18-08-2005, 04:43
"Six Desolator clas Battleships are currently on route to international space just within the Alpha Quadrant, where they shall sit and monitor traffic, simply to flaunt the 'Powers doctrine'. They shall occasionally test their heavy weapons facilities on passing asteroids. And shall not move; for they fear not the over eager and over extended hand of Fedral arrogance."

The Six ships tore free from the warp and took up formation, weapons systems primed, shields readied; all to defy the will of a tyrant in sheeps clothing; an empire that thought itself invulnerable, that it could send forth such madcap claims.

Next, the Imperium was certain that the President would nominate a horse for senator; such were the actions of foolish and insane men.
Hobbeebia
18-08-2005, 04:48
so..... Chronosia thats a pretty hostile move there.... I wouldn't want to want to send a biomech after....lol.
Chronosia
18-08-2005, 04:50
OOC: hobeebia, if you have nothing better to do than irritate me with ooc banter, then get out of the thread ok? You succeed only in irrevocably testing my patience.
Hobbeebia
18-08-2005, 04:53
Mission accomplished. see ya... and lighten up. I was bored.
The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 05:06
(CF id love to rp with you want to set some thing up)

In response the Union has dispatched a force of
120 Venture II class corvettes
60 Prowler-class Frigates
20 Livingston class Light destroyers
10 Star blazer Cruisers
12 Lexington Heavy cruisers
2 Republic Command dreadnoughts
2 Warrington Class Super battle carriers
8 Federation Class dreadnoughts
2 Gettysburg class Mega dreadnoughts
---

The fleet slowly left star base 250 there Inertia -less Engines revving and rumbling up as they slowly made their way out of the stations area, there jump drives humming to life as they passed buy a star the light on the void of space gleaming on there hull, a few seconds passed until they jumped, instantly reappearing in a grey blue white flash of light in front of the enemy ships immediately afterwards bays on the carriers opened up, and swarms of fighters rushed out , sleek looking fighters flanked friendly ships to protect there blind spots.. hopefully it wouldn’t come to blows.
Chronosia
18-08-2005, 05:16
"Union vessels; stand down. We are in international space and have not territorially violated you in any way. Stand down, or you shall be fired upon, and the divine wrath of the Four Gods fall upon you. You have 5 conventional Terran minutes to comply. Failure to comply and subsequent hostile actions from your kind, shall result in us opening fire."

The ships did not move; did not turn to face the mere irritance of Union presence; instead they remained unmoving; even while each and every soldier on board prepared for action; fighters readied; bombs and torpedoes; missles and cannons, all ready for the slightest provocations...
The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 05:22
The massive ships started to aim at the enemy Chronosian ships, there massive several hundred double ,single and triple turreted Spatial disruptor beam cannons and Spatial disruptor pulse cannons pointing at enemy ships Gravimetric Distortion cannons form all ships opened form the hull and aimed at enemy ships, Dark fusion cannons also turned and aimed as all these weapons aimed they were supplemented buy one thing massive missile banks the Gettysburg class had 150 missile banks with 30 tubes in each its armament consisted of 650 Double turret spatial disruptor Cannons 850 heavy spatial disruptor beam cannons (Double turrets) ,890 Spatial disruptor beam emitters , 250 Gravimetric Distortion cannons , 550 Dark fusion cannons , it was a massive 16 km long ship. I Loomed over some enemy ships its massive armament ready to strike the message sent as a reply was,


The union will not stand down nor fire the first shot, it will simply wait until you attack its ships and then will react to the act of un provoked aggression in interstellar space
Kanuckistan
18-08-2005, 05:25
OOC:
Wait, did you just claim authority over half the galaxy? The same one that half the space nations in NS live in? In essence claiming authority over their space?

Good luck trying to enforce this; if you try, you'll likly be signing your death warrent, atleast if you plan on RPing properly.


IC:
While the Dominion's people are a peaceful one, we can not accept one government claiming unilatterial authority over half the galaxy, and the sovereign peoples who live there.

Thus, in response to this self-rightous declaration, we shall continue as we always have, and any attempt to force us to do otherwise shall be treated as the act of foreign agression it was.

Signed:
Bob McBob
Minister Bob McBob,
Department of the Exterrior,
Kanuckistan


OOC:
And yes, I do have a couple Superfortress' scattered around that half of the galaxy, minding their own business for the most part.

Well, there's a Battleplate in Sol, but you specificly excluded that system.
Chronosia
18-08-2005, 05:26
"Of course; always the victim and never the aggressor. A pathetic race such as yourselves; devoid of martial pride or actual balls does not deserve to live." The commander on board the main ship spat before turning back to the transmission. "You would not fire the first shot even if it meant stopping an entire race from dieing; no, you would wait till you were fired upon; claim injustice and then fight true injustice. You are a race of cowards and beurocrats; a miscomplected society of fools and weaklings and you presume to protect two entire quadrants, let alone your own borders? You sicken me, worm. We shall not play into your web; we violate no laws by being here. Take your shot; aggressor; imperialist; Hypocrite...."
The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 05:28
(ooc nations like you who are peaceful and don’t go around conquering people are excluded say one of your battle plains entered space of mine it will be asked to leave unless it was on a mission out side of my space it can stay were it wants as long as it dose not kill innocent people or destroy worlds that’s when we have a problem.)
The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 05:32
the ships just sat there waiting there guns aimed and poised to strike, a reply was sent ominously “ you are all words but no bite, as for not taking the shot if an entire race is dying, we in fact would, unless they spread evil and destruction like your selves no matter we will sit here all day if we have to, but like I said you have no bite all you have is words to shield your own weakness.”
Chronosia
18-08-2005, 05:34
"Weakness? You are one to speak of weakness. Were it that your pathetic bastardised race were not worth our intervention, we would fire till your very homeworld burned in sacrifice to the Gods. But you have not the stomach to back up your convictions. You are not masters of these Quadrants; you are not even masters of Sol! Yet you claim to police half the galaxy; laughable."

He chuckled softly. "Each moment we stand here in defiance, makes a laughing stock of your policy."
Central Facehuggeria
18-08-2005, 05:35
(CF id love to rp with you want to set some thing up)

My RP plate is overflowing right now. I can't even finish the RPs I've already started, I can't start a new one right now. That weak ~two paragraph post was the only real IC content I could manage in between monster detailed posts for two other RPs I'm participating in.
Hyperspatial Travel
18-08-2005, 05:44
"Hah. This should be good for a laugh!"

Captain Zurrecki, of the Grievous Bodily Harm, was nearing the edge of the self-proclaimed Fedral Union border. Although it was a small frigate, and only an exploratory one, at that, it could certainly annoy the hell out of the Unionists.

Still holding his sides, he pressed two buttons simultaneously, and a small, holographic display came up.

[Node1]
[Rule 1 of Exploration Vessels: Make Contact with alien races]
[Rule 2: Piss off the Unionists]

He carefully looked around, and, seeing no aliens in his strictly all-human starship, and closed his (heavily modified) display. Still chuckling, he walked foward, and gave orders to the resident AI, Takehilir

"Well, Mr. AI. We're going to go annoy the Unionists. I think we'll use the Warp Portal to begin dumping dangerous waste into the space around their "self-proclaimed" area, and see what they do. Remember that peaceful little sentient race over in KYYL-7? We're dump it there, then you have a "attack of conscience", and tell the bastards. If they attack us, its a open hostile attack on our nation, and we can go around killing them! Thumbs up!"

The ship moved fowards, and dumped a huge amount of deadly radioactive waste of the capital city of these creatures, Kttatha. They screamed, began fleeing the city, before a thin line of light, projected from the mining laser, began burning those who attempted to escape..


Seeing as you're the police and all, maybe you should come along and stop my insane crewmates tipping huge amounts of radioactive waste out on an innocent planet! Ah, here they co-! *thud*

The captain, still laughing, felt his pants. They were wet. He continued peeing on his pants, and just laughed harder...
The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 05:56
"Weakness? You are one to speak of weakness. Were it that your pathetic bastardised race were not worth our intervention, we would fire till your very homeworld burned in sacrifice to the Gods. But you have not the stomach to back up your convictions. You are not masters of these Quadrants; you are not even masters of Sol! Yet you claim to police half the galaxy; laughable."

He chuckled softly. "Each moment we stand here in defiance, makes a laughing stock of your policy."


The ships moved closer rumbling then holding positions about a few ten thousand KM’s away, no reply was sent as they were sick of petty arguments
Weapons-Tech incorp
18-08-2005, 06:01
tag.
Otagia
18-08-2005, 06:08
--ACCESSING QUETZAL NODE
--INITIATING TRIPARTITE SESSION
--ID has joined the conversation
--EGO has joined the conversation
--SUPER has joined the conversation

ID: Not again.

SUPER: Don't be such a cry-baby. We are merely fufilling our duty.
ID: Duty be damned, I'd rather be killing something.

EGO: Quiet. I have called this session to discuss the Powers Doctrine, from the United Federation of Planets. Uploading all relevant information.

--DATA FILE UPLOADED

SUPER: Interesting. By the looks of this, they are claiming a full half of this galaxy as protected by their nation. What an odd decision.

ID: Wait. We LIVE in this half of the Galaxy. Otagia itself is in the Perseus Arm, as are all major Otagian holdings.

EGO: Exactly why I called this meeting.

ID: So, they want to prevent us from using our military bases. Well, that bites. Screw 'em. Ignore the declaration. Keep building more ships, keep up the good work cleansing planets for colonization.

SUPER: Hrm. I would so rather talk to them peacibly. But ignoring them is better than killing them, I suppose. I will endorse Id's idea, with mild protest.

ID: Good. You're now officially whipped.

SUPER: Oh god...

EGO: So, we shall continue as normal. This current meeting is adjourned. Next on the docket will be discussion of the Hecate Avatar Vessel.

ID: Oh good, more killamajigs. When will we start?

EGO: Next session. QUETZAL, adjourn session.

--EGO has left the conversation
--ID has left the conversation
--SUPER has left the conversation
--TRIPARTITE SESSION ADJOURNED
--QUETZAL NODE EXITED
Axis Nova
18-08-2005, 06:09
OOC: Just as a note, Fedral, pointing guns at someone is generally considered a hostile act. Chronosia is fully within his rights at this point to reduce your fleet to space dust.
Empryia
18-08-2005, 06:15
The Empyrean task force jumped into the star system, the battlecruiser Eisenhorn at their lead. Three of their scout cruisers, pierced the veil of the system with their high powered sensors. They quickly learned of the disposition of the fleets at present, but the powerful sensors also gave away their position on the stellar plane. It was a give and take plan, but the Imperium needed to know exactly what was taking place in this system, as it was making plans and decisions on the eventual events to come.

Fleet Disposition:
One Augustine-Class Battlecruiser
Five Kensai-Class Heavy Cruisers
Four Malleus-Class Strike Carriers
Nine Ship of the Line-Class Cruisers
Six Chaser-Class Light Carriers
Twelve Hurricane-Class Destroyers
Four Hidden-Class Scout Cruisers
Chronosia
18-08-2005, 06:19
The vessels of the Chronosian Imperium sent forth their signals to this new vessel; hulls of the Desolators crackling with buildup from weapons and shields and the hissing runes that adorned them.

"Unidentified vessel, state your business; lest the Union fleet which opposes us decide to take a bite from you. We are the Chronosian Imperium; servants of the Four Powers; Lords of Chaos, one and all. We stand in opposition to the Fedral Union and its....pathetic claims."
Iraqstan
18-08-2005, 06:19
Standard Diplomatic Broadcast
To: The Federated Union of small planets of the Fedral Union
Topic: Arrogently claiming of half the galaxy.

The National Socialist Union of Iraqstan refuses to acknowledge any claims made by the Federal Union in regards to space lanes of any number, so to does it refuse to recognise any Federal Union holdings other than those not contested by foreign nations.

Iraqstan will never acknowledge nor any form of beurecratic aggression of this form and will move where it so chooses.

This has been a standard broadcast by the office of the Minister for arrogence of the National Socialist Union of Iraqstan.
Empryia
18-08-2005, 06:26
Admiral Steinholm stood in a kind of mute shock. He knew some of his men were deeply religious, and followed the very ancient religion of the "Emperor of Mankind". But, they had come here to mostly observe. The Four Gods were anathema to the Empryean State, but he knew that his people were steeled enough that he could fight side by side... But he needed to see what these Federation States were planning on doing, and the Imperium needed clear and vital information on what transpired here. And, they needed to make their statement.

"This is Admiral Steinholm, Empryean Navy Task Force Sixteen. The Imperium does not agree with the imposed peace on the Alph and Beta Quadrants of the Galaxy. We hearby declare this Doctrine, null and void. We await your response."

He felt like that human, from a very long time ago, as he stood on the bank of some river and said, "And the die is cast".
JihadOrange
18-08-2005, 06:36
Marcus de Drakan audibly yawned as he sent forth his reply to this...presumptive message from their old foes. For too long had the Fedral Union thought of itself as self-appointed police, judge, jury and executioner of space and time. He chuckled softly; too often had their paths crossed with these zealous little miscreants.

"The Imperium recognises not the soverignty of the Fedral Union in any matters outside its own meager holdings; and advises them that any attempt to enforce their pathetic laws outside of their own borders shall be met with open defiance. By what mandate do you make yourselves sherrifs of the stars? By what grace do you declare yourself as law over two whole quadrants. Crawl back under your rock; and pray that others are not as tolerant as we."

Maybe you should ask yourself the same question. Your empire's the same damn thing except it wants all it's programmed to do is search and destroy for what? expansion? Don't throw your weight around, You have none up here.

-Jihadorange colonial magistrate

Any Imperial ships detected within colonized space of JihadOrange shall be EM -Pulsed and it's crew subject to nearalization. Have a nice day :)

-JihadOrange automated warning broadcast system
Adejaani
18-08-2005, 06:57
From: Castellan Amber Fotheringown, Deputy Head of State, Adejaani
To: President Robert Bastidas, Leader, United Federation of Planets

I believe, sir, that the 20th century band They Might be Giants once sang a song, whose lyrics include You're not the boss of me now. You're not the boss of me now. You're not the boss of me now, and you're not so big.

On a slightly more serious note, you are simply incapable of declaring "Martial Law" on half of the known galaxy. There are billions of sentients living among the stars which you now "claim" to police.

We applaud you in your attempts to bring stability and justice to the galaxy and eventually hope you will accomplish it in the end. However, you will find that we will not be so cooperative. We do not have a workable Space Fleet anymore, but nevertheless, we do not recognise your claims or this doctrine.

We hope you shall reconsider and work with those nations you have effectively "annexed" and bring peace through diplomacy, not through this "charade" of your "authority" and certainly not through conflict.

Regards
Castellan Amber Fotheringown, Deputy Head of State, The Regime of Adejaani
Underwater Asylum
18-08-2005, 08:43
The Grand Empire of Underwater Asylumn demands that you withdraw your ridiculous claim. Failure to do so will be seen as a hostile action against Alpha and Beta quadrant colonies. As you will be the aggressor, the ESUS alliance will be forced to move to obliterate you, though their assistance would not be needed.
Torontonias
18-08-2005, 12:47
Sender: Office of Extra-National Affairs, The Corporate Autocracy of Torontonias
Reciver: Federal Union Government (Diplomatic Affairs, if so applicable)
Subject: ATTN: Power Doctrine
Encryption: Unencrypted

The Corporate Autocracy of Torontonias wishes to state that the Ruling Council has voted to not accept your proposal to police half the Galaxy, consisting of the Alpha and Beta quadrants, seeing as we have all of our holdings in the Alpha Quadrant, and like to do with them as we please.

We will continue to maintain a standing navy for the purpose of defence, and if any Federal Vessel wishes to challenge this decision by entering Torontonian Space, they will be subject to fire without warning orders by the Homeguard and System Automated Defences if so applicable.

As much as it is applaudable that you wish to end Chaos and Strife in the Galaxy, it is impossible. No nation, no matter how powerfull, has the capacity to accomplish what this doctrine wishes to achive. It is suggested you use your fleet to guard whatever planetary holdings you may have.
Zatarack
18-08-2005, 13:03
We here in Zatarack think that this doctrine is a poorly-conceived, stupidly imperialistic piece of garbage. If you want to not be thought of as an over-bearing, insecure warmonger, then we suggest you restrict your authority to your own holdings.
Central Facehuggeria
18-08-2005, 13:59
The Grand Empire of Underwater Asylumn demands that you withdraw your ridiculous claim. Failure to do so will be seen as a hostile action against Alpha and Beta quadrant colonies. As you will be the aggressor, the ESUS alliance will be forced to move to obliterate you, though their assistance would not be needed.

OOC: No. No. No. It's on the rules thread on the ESUS boards. No speaking for the ESUS as a whole. I'll be lenient this time, but don't do it again please.
Siesatia
18-08-2005, 14:31
Official Responce...

President Jessica Crescent would like to suggest to the Union government that they replace Robert Bastidas, as he seems to be 'A few Marines short of a Platoon'. She has personally sent a gift basket of fine Gaian fruit to the Bastidas family, extending her grievences for their family member's seemingly perminent condition. She hopes that new leadership comes into power before the Fedral Union collapses under the stress.


Meanwhile, Siesatia will enforce the ban on any Fedral vessels, and any Fedral goods within her own territory. Siesatia would not be so presumptuous as to enforce a ban in any other territory, but suggests similar bans in other countries.
CoreWorlds
18-08-2005, 15:22
The Dark Lady Nightshade smirked as she read the declaration. "So, these Fedral fools believe they can police half an entire galaxy. Let us test them..."

A fleet of four pitch-black Star Destroyers were sent on maneuvers to a small portion of the Beta Quadrant.
Chronosia
18-08-2005, 16:19
Maybe you should ask yourself the same question. Your empire's the same damn thing except it wants all it's programmed to do is search and destroy for what? expansion? Don't throw your weight around, You have none up here.

-Jihadorange colonial magistrate

Any Imperial ships detected within colonized space of JihadOrange shall be EM -Pulsed and it's crew subject to nearalization. Have a nice day :)

-JihadOrange automated warning broadcast system

"Ah, but the Imperium does not claim to control half a galaxy. We are more than aware of our limitations, and actively seek to overcome them. We do not think to assume as the Union does, that it automatically controls half the galaxy. No, our great work shall ensure our future dominance....

We would appreciate that you also keep your threats to yourself, worm. Any attack on Chronosian vessels shall result in each and every world that you control being cleansed; people offered up as glorious sacrifice to the Gods. We are able to back up our threats; you are not."

-Chronosian Diplomatic Corps.
The Mindset
18-08-2005, 17:05
"His Royal Highness, Prime Plaos, has taken time from his busy schedule to compose the following message. Ignoring it would prove foolish."

Message Begins.
"The Empire shall respect no law of your nation outwith what we recognise as your territorial boundries. As such, we do not recognise any law your whims create, as we do not recognise your territorial claims either. TFU patrols that stray close to, but not into Mindsetti space will still be treated as if they are attacking an innocent colony: that is, they will be destroyed utterly. Naturally any of your ships that stray close to our territory will be vastly outnumbered, since patrolling half a galaxy would give you a ratio of perhaps one ship per ten million stars. Good luck, and all that shit."
Message Ends.
The Mindset
18-08-2005, 17:06
The Grand Empire of Underwater Asylumn demands that you withdraw your ridiculous claim. Failure to do so will be seen as a hostile action against Alpha and Beta quadrant colonies. As you will be the aggressor, the ESUS alliance will be forced to move to obliterate you, though their assistance would not be needed.

(OOC Note: Remember, you can't speak for the entire ESUS)
Zatarack
18-08-2005, 17:19
OOC: Really Federal, why did you do this? And Chonosia, I TGed you.
Iuthia
18-08-2005, 19:25
(OOC Note: Remember, you can't speak for the entire ESUS)

OOC: Actually, reading their post I don't think they are really speaking for the ESUS alliance, they seem to actually be saying that they demand this claim/doctrine is withdrawn as they see it as a hostile action against their nation. Seeing as they feel it's a hostile action against them, they feel that ESUS's hand would be forced to defend them from this hostile action... of course, ESUS probably looks at it diferently.
The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 19:30
(ooc You’ll see I’m just trying to draw out all my enemies btw if no one knows this was meant to be like the Monroe Doctrine not a declaration of police, I want to keep out nations that are evil Imperialistic and just plain nasty out of the alpha and one quarter of the beta this doesn’t mean that nations with there main holdings and already established here need to disband there military or any thing, I’m actually trying to protect you.)



In response to core worlds act of hostility a fleet of :
50 Venture II class corvettes
10 Prowler-class Frigates
10 Livingston class Light destroyers
10 Star blazer Cruisers
10 Lexington Heavy cruisers
1 Republic Command dreadnought
1 Warrington Class Super battle carrier
2 Federation Class dreadnoughts
1 Gettysburg class Mega dreadnought

ok I’m not going to write a fancy rp pos so ill just post: the fleet jumped in front of the enemy ships doing maneuvers with in the quadrant .


mean while on Terran prime Rob was chuckling “they are so naive and stupid, they cannot look beyond there own little pitiful empires and see that this is only a front for some thing I’m planning they see nothing its so amusing “ bester?!” bester looked over smiling “yes?” Rob said “is project 41 ready to be executed?” bester smiled again “shortly Mr President ... Shortly”
The Mindset
18-08-2005, 19:33
OOC: Actually, reading their post I don't think they are really speaking for the ESUS alliance, they seem to actually be saying that they demand this claim/doctrine is withdrawn as they see it as a hostile action against their nation. Seeing as they feel it's a hostile action against them, they feel that ESUS's hand would be forced to defend them from this hostile action... of course, ESUS probably looks at it diferently.

OOC: It was worded in a way which implied the ESUS would engage in hostile actions. It wouldn't necessarily, and it's against ESUS rules to speak for all nations within the ESUS.

IC: "We do not need your one-ship-per-ten-million-stars protection, fool."
CoreWorlds
18-08-2005, 19:39
So, they come. Captain Helios of the Destructor smiled. "Ignore them and stay on course."

"Aye, sir." The young lad at the helm nodded and barked orders to that effect. The Star Destroyer will not deviate from the course unless the captain orders such.
The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 19:41
The fleet moved in to position in front of the enemy ships, in tight formation holding there if they rammed them they rammed them if not then not , hundreds of weapons were online but not targeting any thing

The ships were 500 km apart, The flag and command ships were out side of the tight formation each with 3 smaller ships beside them, and 2 medium ships beside them
CoreWorlds
18-08-2005, 19:53
Fools. "Split the fleet up. No ship is to be within five hundred klicks of each other."

The formation soon became an extremely loose one, one that would force the opposing fleet to react.
The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 19:54
The fleet matched the moves of the enemy ships thousands of fighters launched form the carrier to cover flanks

The fleet captain on the UFS Federation smiled as he taped a secure com channel “I want a group of ships behind and above the enemy ships” with that a small group of vessels broke formation and surrounded the enemy ships still not pointing there guns at them, however if any thing were to happen it would take only a nano seconds to target and fire
CoreWorlds
18-08-2005, 20:49
"Draw all power except thrusters into shields." The Captain ordered, almost bored. The four Star Destroyers' shields grew stronger now that power from weapons and other systems were redirected into the shields. "Helm, keep a sharp eye out for the larger ships and set course accordingly."

"Yes, sir." The helmsman said, his forehead starting to glisten with sweat at the number and size of the enemy forces. At least if he made a mistake, his death would be swift and the Empress wouldn't have to waste her powers killing him.
Xanthal
18-08-2005, 20:52
Due to the increasing volatility of the situation regarding the Powers Doctrine, the Socialist Republic has ordered its military to bar entrance to all civilian and military vessels of Federation ownership or origin. Vessels fitting that description violating Xanthalian space will be subject to impounding and their crews subject to detention in or expulsion from the Socialist Republic. Any vessel that takes aggressive action against a Xanthalian ship without due cause as defined in the legal code of the Socialist Republic will be subject to the above measures and/or destruction with or without its crew aboard. To ensure protection from federal forces, the following fleets have been activated and cleared for operations in international space to enforce this declaration.

Fifth general reconnaissance,
Eighth long-range defensive operations,
Ninth line defense,
Twelfth combat reconnaissance,
Thirteenth combat reconnaissance,
Fifteenth area patrol,
Nineteenth combat troop transport.

The Socialist Republic will not tolerate imperialist action against our ships or the ships of our allies, and the Labule will take all necessary defensive action to protect them. The Federation is hereby labelled a hostile nation, and a danger to regional peace. If you attempt to force your doctrine within our jurisdiction, we will seek a declaration of war against the Federation, both from the Council and the Extra Solar Union of Systems.

Signed,
Yătzĭl Ämsi, First Alphin of Xanthal
Balrogga
18-08-2005, 22:07
A single probe Emerged from T-Space near the fleet of ships facing the 6 Chronosia vessels. It orientated itself upon the TFU fleet and began broadcasting a signal in all frequencies.

Attention Federation fleet

The Balrogga Empire has determined your attempts at annexing all known and unknown nations in both Alpha and Beta Quadrants is a thinly veiled attempt at expansionism. We will not recognize any mass claims on interstellar space.

Interstellar space is neutral by definition. If any were to recognize your claim, it would prevent any other nation from colonizing new worlds because you had already claimed them. They cannot defend their worlds because you laid down martial law preventing them from moving their forces to a position to enable them their sovereign rights.

It is because of this we cannot support your declaration and will pledge our support instead to those who oppose it.

Any attempts at preventing movements of our forces will result in said action being the first aggressive action upon your part. If any Imperial territory is damaged in any manor because of your actions, it will be returned ten-fold. For every imperial ship you damage, one of yours will be destroyed. For every Imperial ship you destroy, ten of your ships will be obliterated. If you damage any world, one of yours will be destroyed.

There is nothing you can do about this because to provide cover, you will need to stretch your forces so thin that you cannot defend yourself from natural disasters, much less other nations. The two fleets you have gathered so far have exposed several million stars to non-protected status already.

Your home world would be undefended because you dedicated your forces to being scattered through out the two Quadrants. You do not have the military means to place a single soldier in every system in both the Alpha and Beta Quadrant. Providing them with equipment is even more implausible.

I sincerely suggest you recall your Declaration and your ships back to your home before someone decided to make use of that undefended target.

Also, any further pursuit of this policy will result in your ITH Status being placed on Parole until this can be resolved.

His Imperial Majesty
Nhur-Galladu


The probe waited for a reply from the Federation Fleet. Immense power readings can be detected from the probe.
The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 22:23
Annexing huh ? I guess you people never read history upon the Monroe Doctrine, I want to prevent out side imperialist nations from coming in and attacking and expanding with in the realm of protection I’m trying to extend I don’t mean nations with militaries and forces already in the realm has to disband or any thing see if you read history you would know at any rate.

If Xanthal attempts to cease any federal ships or shuttles going about there business with in interstellar space the Union will respond with military force
The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 22:31
(OOC I forgot to add this in)

Ic
Section 4: THE Union will uphold neutrality during any wars external of the alpha and beta quadrants that do not threaten its own nation or the galaxy, further more this entire document is meant to protect against outside imperialist and evil nations wishing to do harm to the quadrant all internal nations with in the quadrants are exempt.

Section 5: nations that want to harm and destroy this part of the galaxy will not be permitted to colonize or build military bases to launch attacks from, unless nations have a peaceful and non Imperialistic intent this will be enforced if necessary.
The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 22:41
Ic: the union may have made a mistake in the wording of this document, we will re peal it and re word it to be more freindly thank you
The Fedral Union
18-08-2005, 22:58
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9471562#post9471562 (ooc revised)

ic: we are repaleing the un revised vertion
Kanuckistan
19-08-2005, 01:07
(ooc You’ll see I’m just trying to draw out all my enemies

OOC:
If that is what you intended, then you have failed; you have only earned the disrespect of, well, just about every other civilised nation to read this.

Any 'enemies' you 'draw out' will, by and large, be those who feel that you are directly threatening their sovereignty; that is, if anything, you will only make yourself new enemies, and provide a unified position from which all who would oppose you can rally.

Strategicly, this is a Very Bad Idea(tm).

That might not be what you intended, but that's my take on the predicted reaction, and seems to be the way things are playing out.


The Monroe Doctrine is also not a very good example; overthrowing democratically elected governments by proxy, claiming to supercede a foreign nation's sovereign interests, and things of that ilk, all in the name of US interests.
Central Facehuggeria
19-08-2005, 02:46
The Monroe Doctrine is also not a very good example; overthrowing democratically elected governments by proxy, claiming to supercede a foreign nation's sovereign interests, and things of that ilk, all in the name of US interests.

Actually, the original Munroe doctrine was basically a weak US shaking its fist at a vastly more powerful Europe and saying 'don't interfere in Latin America or else.'

I see a lot of similarities to this situation actually. :p

As for the overthrowing democratic governments by proxy, that would be the Roosevelt Corallary to the Munroe Doctrine. Basically turning it from a passive instance of fist waving into an active attempt to enforce US interests on Latin America.
The Fedral Union
19-08-2005, 02:49
CF your pissing me off buy implying im weak ... ok knock it off
Central Facehuggeria
19-08-2005, 02:56
CF your pissing me off buy implying im weak ... ok knock it off

In a one on one fight, you could probably beat any one of them with a bit of effort. But with all of them against just you? You'll be defeated. Simple numbers.
The Fedral Union
19-08-2005, 02:58
ohh all right sorry then
JihadOrange
19-08-2005, 05:50
"Ah, but the Imperium does not claim to control half a galaxy. We are more than aware of our limitations, and actively seek to overcome them. We do not think to assume as the Union does, that it automatically controls half the galaxy. No, our great work shall ensure our future dominance....

We would appreciate that you also keep your threats to yourself, worm. Any attack on Chronosian vessels shall result in each and every world that you control being cleansed; people offered up as glorious sacrifice to the Gods. We are able to back up our threats; you are not."

-Chronosian Diplomatic Corps.

Oh, it all makes sense now, you're going on a crusade to ensure future dominance of the WHOLE galaxy, please exscuse me. JihadOrange offers no threats, merely a warning. It's the federal ships that find a crippled imperial ship and crew that would be the threat. The colonies of JihadOrange do not fear the imperium nor it's bloodthirsty gods. JihadOrange's orbital defense relays can back our threats very well, good sir, best not test them.

Oh, purification of systems we "control" and having our people offered up as sacrifices? We control nothing, the colonies united in an effort to make sure threats such as your own never become reality, and thus remain threats.

Again, we offer no threats. We happen to be affected by this declaration, can abide by it and are offered further protection from warmongers like yourself by it.

-JihadOrange colonial magistrate

(Ooc: hey, thanks for reading, playing along and giving me so much to work with Chronosia. It's always appreciated when someone roleplays well enough to keep me out of the left field. Wish I waited for that revision to post...)
Bob-Bob
19-08-2005, 13:59
Temple of Set

“Mighty Pharaoh, we may have a problem in fulfilling our orders from the Gods, our spies have just reported a most disturbing event in the Galactic quadrants defined as Alpha and Beta.”

Pharaoh remained in solitary prayer, but he was listening. “Sire, it is an attempt to pause conflict within this Galaxy, it is going against everything that the master requires. We have information that a human Empire designated “The Fedral Union” has issued a proclamation, they are taking it upon themselves to interfere in any and all matters of a military nature in these sectors.” Pharaoh raised his hand.

“The other Empires will not abide by this ruling, they will most likely unify in crushing this Upstart.”

“The diplomatic outcry is already turning towards that effect, we must do something quickly…”

“No, we must do nothing. The races of this Galaxy thrive on chaos, as long as power is there for the taking our goals shall not differ.”

“But if peace is enforced?”

“Silence Pharaoh speaks! We will do nothing, not unless I receive instructions first.” Looking up at the great statue behind him there was only one that Pharaoh could be addressing. “Now leave me I must pray.”