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OOC--As im sure most of you remeber feline catfish was the nation that caused a major nuke scare a few months back.

Well just so everyone is informed the nation Feline Catfish is no more he. was deleted for inactivity.....just thought the ns world would like to know

I don't remember any jack asses causing a nuclear scare..oh yea...I probably didn't care....

It wasnt that big was it?

I remember that. I also remember he was rather *ahem* uncompromising OOCly as well as ICly.

There's always the chance FC will get his nation restored unless he was actually deated for a rules violation.

It was at the time. I'm not entirely sure how or why.

It's weird seeing nations like that die, though. Sephrioth went not long ago; he was like an institution. Not a good one, but an institution none-the-less. I couldn't care less about half these nations that die, but you still think 'wow!'. Strange. One day all those well-known nations like AMF and the like will probably die too, and that'll be even weirder.

I remember a person named Feminary who banned all men in her country, but a lot of old nations didn't quite like the concept so they attacked her. Guess what happened? She left.

I remember a person named Feminary who banned all men in her country, but a lot of old nations didn't quite like the concept so they attacked her. Guess what happened? She left.I remember that too. I think in her case she got sick of people just dogpiling in spite of several veterans trying to prevent that from happening and she just left. Who knows where she'd be if that didn't happen.

I remember that too. I think in her case she got sick of people just dogpiling in spite of several veterans trying to prevent that from happening and she just left. Who knows where she'd be if that didn't happen.Same with FC, damn I remember there were like, twelve threads dedicated to him and his nuclear escapades. He was, compared to other newbies, pretty good in his writing but thanks to Greater Valia and his stauch, if not foolish stance on "no n00bs are allowed to get nuclear weapons", I think he'd become a great addition to II, and NationStates. We're kinda running low on new promising players.

There's always a possibility that he is still here, except with a different nation. If that happened to me, I'd probably go under a different name too.

Same with FC, damn I remember there were like, twelve threads dedicated to him and his nuclear escapades. He was, compared to other newbies, pretty good in his writing but thanks to Greater Valia and his stauch, if not foolish stance on "no n00bs are allowed to get nuclear weapons", I think he'd become a great addition to II, and NationStates. We're kinda running low on new promising players.I think he'd have potential if he were more willing to listen to people who'd been playing the game for a while.

I agree with you that a blanket anti-newb getting nuclear weapons policy is nigh on foolish. If a five million pop country in its first-ever RP does a brilliant job of RPing the research, I'll accept it. But your last statement is the biggest concern. We are running low on promising new players and the ones we do get are not treated well.

We're kinda running low on new promising players.

Yeah... 'veterans' of II tend to scare them away with their un-official rules and n00b bashing, personally I thing Feline Catfish liked the attention, but some of the OOC crap people threw at him was pretty annoying. There was a lot of dumb reactions in that thread, personally I would have thought that people would be smarter then that... if something doesn't effect you, why invade the nation when they have nuclear deterrence designed to keep enemy fleets out of their waters? It's costly and could result in mutual destruction... and over what? Some pissant nation that claims more water then normal around themselves in such a way which still doesn't effect anyone? It's costly and it doesn't acheive anything.

This is why I really don't bother with a lot of II RPs these days, occasionally using diplomacy to try and bring some common sense into things (or just to be a jerk at times, hell, people need someone questioning their motives now and again, it gives them the slight problems they need to make their RP more interesting) but alot of the time it's just not worth it, people want to fight and they want to fight over the stupidest things. I've got to the point where I hardly care anymore.

*ahem* Anyways, nevermind me. Just figured I would get a short rant in... it's a shame to see Feline Catfish give up, he wasn't a great RPer and he was ICly and OOCly a bit hard to deal with, but he wasn't terrible and he sure as hell had some interesting ideas. I liked the idea of nuclear deterrents being used instead of a navy... it was a clever way of making up for a weakness until they had chance to establish themselves, shame people are too dumb to respect nuclear deterrents and the danger they represent. Most governments don't survive long if they are dumb and start wars over the most pointless of things, that thread expossed several idiot government who wanted to start a war over a international law that doesn't exists.

Truth be told, any newb should be able to get nukes, some people complain "you need to be at least 500 million for nukez!!!!" but look at the UK...it has nukes and its definitely below 500 million. It isn't too hard to maintain a nuclear bomb anyway, ICBM's could be difficult for a young and economically weak nation but a bomb or a low-yield missile wouldn't be too difficult.

Truth be told, any newb should be able to get nukes, some people complain "you need to be at least 500 million for nukez!!!!" but look at the UK...it has nukes and its definitely below 500 million. It isn't too hard to maintain a nuclear bomb anyway, ICBM's could be difficult for a young and economically weak nation but a bomb or a low-yield missile wouldn't be too difficult.
In fact there are only 2 nations in the real world with ICBMs and a population over 500 million, and they're China and India. China and Indias' nuclear arsenals arent exactly impressive either. It's a shame to see FC go but it's hardly unexpected.

Truth be told, any newb should be able to get nukes.

You know what, I think Noitan Teppup will start sponcering new nations like we did with Lesbian Tree Huggers (sp)... we installed nuclear silos on her nation along with military bases because, well, Noitan Teppup is a corrupt democrary that is influenced by big business interests that like securing new upcoming nations.

Only this time we'll start arming the little guys with nuclear weapons, assuming they are suitable for such a program of course. If people want to bug me about it, they can... I'm ready for it.

Of course, I'll need a bit of time because I'm going out in a bit... but if others want to start doing it to, be my guest. I think it's time to give promising RPers the tools to protect themselves as well as the sponcership to help protect and guide them.

(...)Some people have their mouth full of others while they should take a good close look at themselves.

Anyway, I recently saw a few good starting players, but somehow they left or never posted since. Finding out why would be a good idea, but you try to find out why they leave. I mean, there are plenty of good writers between all the players who sign up daily. But they either won't RP or when they do, they get to hear "you're too small", and that's what's so frustrating about being a new player.

I even know someone, I won't know his name for privacy reasons who's a good writer, and I mean high above average, who is still not recognized as a "player" because of his registration date. And there lies the problem, people attach too much value to the number 2002 or 2003. Just repeating myself here, I know plenty of 2003's who suck a lot of ass at simple roleplaying. One line replies, n00bish behavior, statwanking. Hell, I even know at least one 2002 who can't roleplay worth a nickle.

You know what, I think Noitan Teppup will start sponcering new nations like we did with Lesbian Tree Huggers (sp)... we installed nuclear silos on her nation along with military bases because, well, Noitan Teppup is a corrupt democrary that is influenced by big business interests that like securing new upcoming nations. [snip]

Heh, that would be fun - arming the poor guys with nukes, and perhaps giving nukes to a few tards as to draw the crowds from our promising newblets. It isn't fair that promising young 'uns have to RP getting nukes when older and occasionally lesser RPers get nukes just because they've got a bigger pop.

By the way Prae, thanks for the fact, helps reinforce meh arguement!

I think this is about the time I'm glad I never made an intro thread regarding my nation. I slowly entered II by involving myself in varied RPs before finally joining alliances and such.

I guess I was lucky with my entrance into NS. I sort of "grew up" with some of the greastest RPers in NS, all thanks to a school friend of mine. I was also lucky to be able to learn from upcoming masters, such as AMF, Pantera, Sambizie, New Empire, Melkor Unchained and several others( I have much Gratitude to them all). I truly wish that most newbs could have a place like that to mature themselves in...

I didn't have anyone to help me... :(

But Feline Catfish did show potential. He showed that he did do his research first, but the guy was a bit headstrong.

OOC: Quite sad....although I did everything I could to help FC stay in the game, even breaking RP etiquette and lending an IC hand for OOC reasons. But alas in the end it proved futile, and I doubt any lessons will be learned from this.

What a waste.....

I think this is about the time I'm glad I never made an intro thread regarding my nation. I slowly entered II by involving myself in varied RPs before finally joining alliances and such.

It was much the same for me, except I nearly got myself annihilated in the first war I was ever involved in (which happened to be my first big RP). It was only due to the help of some older nations that happened to eventually side with me (Leafanistan, Space Union, and Tannenmille in particular) that my country wasn't consumed in a nuclear holocaust. It was a great learning experience, and I definitely took a number of lessons from that war. Plus, the war allowed me to found a new, relatively powerful alliance with my wartime comrades, one that I'm proud to say is still going strong today (it was founded in May), and helped shape foreign policy for my country. The influences that that war, and subsequent events, had on my foreign policy were tremendous. I'm proud to note that I've not been threatened with an attack on the soil of my mainland since that very first war.