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Enoclastia Passes Subscription Act

Enoclastia
14-08-2005, 15:41
Enoclastia’s success story is world renowned. Virtually overnight (OOC: 3 RL days), Enoclastia’s economy shot up from the status ‘Fragile’ to ‘Very Strong’ in large part to the disbanding of the military, thus becoming a model to others to follow in our path. Without the military, its budget was spent elsewhere to help build our infrastructure, take care of the needy, and improve our economy. Our soldiers, armed now with shovels and bulldozers, continue to improve our country by building factories, mines, lumber camps, railroads, and highways.

However, in light of international pressure and many concerned citizens and businessmen of Enoclastia, I must sign into law the Subscription Act.

The Subscription Act entitles the following:

A privately funded militia or army sponsored by likeminded citizens, businessmen and private businesses, city, clan, or state in defense of the Incorporated States to preserve and protect from foreign invasion, alleviate internal situations, or when a situation requires manpower or force to achieve a goal unquestionably beneficial to all citizens of Enoclastia, be it man, woman, or child.

These subscription armies will be paid for voluntarily with private money to serve and protect the states under the Enoclastian banner. These armies will run under a “Letter of Subscription”, which will outline rights and regulations, as well as act as a license, which will need to be renewed after every four years.

Signed,
President Baker
Vintovia
14-08-2005, 15:48
The Vintovian Defence minister is curious as to how these armies will be controlled, to avoid coups or other revolution.
Shirrad
14-08-2005, 15:55
The Vintovian Defence minister is curious as to how these armies will be controlled, to avoid coups or other revolution.
As is the Shirradan Defence Minister
Enoclastia
14-08-2005, 15:57
The Vintovian Defence minister is curious as to how these armies will be controlled, to avoid coups or other revolution.

OOC: Basically, in times of war, they'd reunite under the command of the president. I just took the subscription policies the U.S. Navy built in its infancy during the War of 1812, and instead applied it to the army. Nothing more.
Vintovia
14-08-2005, 15:58
You are obviously very trustworthy of your people Mr. Baker
Enoclastia
14-08-2005, 16:06
You are obviously very trustworthy of your people Mr. Baker

The people of Enoclastia have been very traditionally very defensive of their country and fiercely oppose any foreign invasions or any sort of instability. Especially since the government is even more stable than before, the populace is happier with the government than before, and the people have a better quality of life than ever before, I don't think there would be popular support for any insurecction or coup.

A generation ago, the life expectancy was only about 38 years average. Now, its expected to almost double to 72 years. The same person who couldn't afford any clothes or food five years ago, can now afford a house, a car, a big screen t.v., and of course food and clothes. That's how radically different our country has changed.
Vintovia
14-08-2005, 16:14
But what for some unforseen event? An economic Crash? Environmental disaster? Can you be absoutely sure about the full support of your populace then?
Enoclastia
14-08-2005, 16:22
But what for some unforseen event? An economic Crash? Environmental disaster? Can you be absoutely sure about the full support of your populace then?

They have been before and they will be if it happens.

Is it really worse than having one army? Since it isn't funded by the government, it saves us the trouble of funding and manpower to concentrate elsewhere. The licenses aren't handed out liberally and the recipients need to prove their ability to handle and mantain a military.

And say, for example, I do face an unforseen event. A grumbling soldier is a grumbling soldier, whether in a national army or a local army. A government general could march just as easily to a capital as private general. However, since there is more than one army, if there does come a time when one rebells, the other armies would fight back.
Otares
14-08-2005, 16:23
I would also like to know if the capital owners of this these private armies were interested in recouping their costs by showing a little return on what could be a very lucrative investment. Otares does have a bit of a rebel province problem and if your nation is as peaceful as you say then I’m sure those business owners, who for all intents and purposes own the armies, would agree that some freelance work could be nothing but beneficial. Beneficial in the sense that the army could be sustained without continuous upkeep costs and in the sense that peace time volunteer armies might lack the training and experience necessary to immediately switch to a wartime mindset. Wet work could keep them sharp.

- Minister Rickard Haffy
Otares
14-08-2005, 16:24
They have been before and they will be if it happens.

Is it really worse than having one army? Since it isn't funded by the government, it saves us the trouble of funding and manpower to concentrate elsewhere. The licenses aren't handed out liberally and the recipients need to prove their ability to handle and mantain a military.

And say, for example, I do face an unforseen event. A grumbling soldier is a grumbling soldier, whether in a national army or a local army. A government general could march just as easily to a capital as private general. However, since there is more than one army, if there does come a time when one rebells, the other armies would fight back.

(OOC: Almost like a division of powers in the military ala republican ideals, neat!)
Enoclastia
14-08-2005, 16:41
(OOC: Almost like a division of powers in the military ala republican ideals, neat!)

thanks. I just founded the army as a compromise. I don't want to spend the money for a military, but many feel that it would benefitial to keep a military in case of emergencies. Thus I created a volunteer army, much like one has a volunteer fire department. However, the army would be a professional, full-time army. And for those concerned mega-corporations and businessmen would control the armies for their interest, their partially right, but not completely right.

Yes, the army was created in light of businessmen complaining that if invaded, nothing would prevent their businesses from being destroyed. They wanted something better than minutemen or militia. However, many people are estatic about the growing economy, in due to the disbanding of the military and don't want government funding to fund a military again. So basically our government took the "You want it? You make it." stance and allowed businessmen and citizens to make their own armies. The leaders won't be chosen from companies, but from leaders in the community or clan (or country is divided into states and clans). And although companies fund them (as well as citizens), patriotic, nationalist citizens make up them, and the armies can't engage in combat without government permission.
Otares
14-08-2005, 17:02
This is unfortunate then. I guess the only offer I might have is whether or not one of these armies wants to become incredibly rich as we have a few billion dollars we might send their way if they were willing to act on our behalf for a few years. If a representative, government approved or not, happened to show up on our doorstep and spoke on behalf of these men we’d be more than willing to open negotiations.

- Minister Rickard Haffy
Findan
14-08-2005, 17:52
The Imperial Land of Findan is curious. How will this volenteer army be funded?

Samuel II
Emperor
Imperial Land of Findan
Enoclastia
14-08-2005, 20:05
This is unfortunate then. I guess the only offer I might have is whether or not one of these armies wants to become incredibly rich as we have a few billion dollars we might send their way if they were willing to act on our behalf for a few years. If a representative, government approved or not, happened to show up on our doorstep and spoke on behalf of these men we’d be more than willing to open negotiations.

- Minister Rickard Haffy

Athough the idea has us drowling from our mouths, we must regrettibly decline. Enoclastia is a neutral nation, and thus it is illegal to interfere in foreign nations and their internal problems.

I hope you understand and wish no hard feelings toward yourself or your country.

Sincerely,
President Baker
Enoclastia
14-08-2005, 20:06
The Imperial Land of Findan is curious. How will this volenteer army be funded?

Samuel II
Emperor
Imperial Land of Findan

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