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OOC: The Wheel of Time RP Sign Up

Philanchez
13-08-2005, 04:04
This will be an rp based on the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan. You choose an area from the map and decide your oppinion on aes sedai, darkfriends, whitecloaks, and the aiel. Depending on how you act towards these will tell you what units you may have in your armies and how you run your country. Knowledge of the books is preffered but if not here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_wheel_of_time) is a reference with more links at the bottom. So begin your claiming and include the name on the map and what you wish to call your kingdom.

FORUMS (http://s13.invisionfree.com/Wheel_of_Time_Earth/index.php?act=idx)

Claimed
Philanchez: The Consulate of Tova-Tova
New Dracora: The White Tower-Tar Valon
Pantera: The Stone of Tear-Moreina
Tlatzan: Rhamdashar-Rhamdashar
Maineiacs: Basharande-Basharande
Uldarious: The Kingdom of Dhowlan-Dhowlan
Talshadar: Oman Dashar-Oman Dashar
Yafor2: Shiota-Shiota
Barlibgil: Caembrin-Caembrin

http://www.sevenspokes.com/images/map-aftertrollocs.jpg
Philanchez
13-08-2005, 05:29
bumpity bumpity bump bump bump
New Dracora
13-08-2005, 05:40
Ack! How did I not notice this before? *literally trips over himself to make a claim.*

The White Tower: Tar Valon

Attitudes
Aes Sedai - Allied (Us)
Darkfriends - Vendetta
Whitecloaks - Distainful
Aiel - Cautious
Philanchez
13-08-2005, 05:52
haha its about time! damn oh also i forgot my positions...

Aes Sedai: friendly thinking of asking for alliance
Darkfriends: if we see you you die
Whitecloaks: wary(after that whole seen in caemlyn in eotw i dont think i like whiteys to much)
Aiel: friendly
New Dracora
13-08-2005, 05:57
Heh, a lot of people must be still annoyed over the last additions to the series. :p

One question (since I'm a bit rusty on my WoT knowledge), 100 years after the trolloc wars... when exactly is that in regards to the time period of the first book?
Pantera
13-08-2005, 05:57
I'll take Tear, if noone minds. But I won't be able to commit myself -completely- to the RP, over the next week or two. I will, however, manage to post if anyone needs one from me. I loved the WoT books until they got to book 6 or 7. It gets kind of tedious after that... But the world is still fascinating and well-rounded. The Sea Folk killed the books for me, I think...

Timeline on this? I'll leave the Aiel blank until I'm told on this, as it would have changed in different pre book 3 and post book 4...

The Stone of Tear - Tairen Highlords/Defenders of the Stone

Aes Sedai/Intense dislike bordering on hatred.
Darkfriends/Intense hatred
Whitecloaks/Reluctant acceptance
Aiel/
Philanchez
13-08-2005, 05:59
the map says it all but its FY 100 after the trolloc wars so technically tear doesnt exist but i think you may want moreina or fergansea...
Philanchez
13-08-2005, 06:02
Heh, a lot of people must be still annoyed over the last additions to the series. :p

One question (since I'm a bit rusty on my WoT knowledge), 100 years after the trolloc wars... when exactly is that in regards to the time period of the first book?
somewhere around 2122 years before ne...hawking started in about 942 fy
Pantera
13-08-2005, 06:25
the map says it all but its FY 100 after the trolloc wars so technically tear doesnt exist but i think you may want moreina or fergansea...

The Stone of Tear was build shortly after the Breaking, the first to be built, right? So the Stone exists, even if Tear does not. I'll take Moreina, as my first territory. Straight?
Tlaztlan
13-08-2005, 06:32
hmmm I'll tank Rhamdashar(gotta love the borderlands).

Aes Sedai: Allies
Darkfriends: we wan't these guys less then the White cloaks :mad: :mad:
Whitecloaks: we don't want them in here :mad:
Aiel:Neutral
Maineiacs
13-08-2005, 06:38
Basharande: Aes Sedai -- friendly, if cautious
Whitecloaks -- barely tolerate them
Darkfriends -- kill them as soon as they're discovered
Aiel -- repect their fighting prowess, but don't have much contact with them
New Dracora
13-08-2005, 06:44
somewhere around 2122 years before ne...hawking started in about 942 fy

*Does some research.*

Start of the "Free Era" then yeah? Nice... 800 years of unexplained history to play with.
Tlaztlan
13-08-2005, 06:46
excellent now i just need a backgroung on my kingdom*begins own research*
Uldarious
13-08-2005, 11:33
OOC:does a little dance and a sing-song

IC: Can I be the Children of the light??? please? I'm not sure WHAT nation they'd be but...I think it's Dhowlan...I know everyone will hate me but hey...we all secretley love religious extremists.
Well anyhoo get back to me on that...If I can't I'll just choose new one though.

Attitudes:
Aes Sedai: Kill the Witches!
Whitecloaks: er...they're us?
Darkfriends: Openly Hostile
Aiel: dislike but not open hostility
Talshadar
13-08-2005, 13:34
Oh dear god how did i not notice this before, my entire nation is based on the WoT, in keeping with my nation i'll have to take Oman Dashar but keep it a nation ruled by Aes Sedai, if people want something more in keeping with the theme then i'll adjust it.

Aes Sedai: Very strong allies
Whitecloaks: Tolerated, but not for long
Darkfriends: Open hostility
Aiel: Friendly but cautious
Philanchez
13-08-2005, 17:01
wooot! attention cool all of you are adde but i found a mistake in my idea...the whitecloaks were formed after the aiel war meaning they are about 2000 years off...for the sakes of the rp lets say the whitecloaks formed already but keep the same map so there can be more nations...
Maineiacs
13-08-2005, 17:08
wooot! attention cool all of you are adde but i found a mistake in my idea...the whitecloaks were formed after the aiel war meaning they are about 2000 years off...for the sakes of the rp lets say the whitecloaks formed already but keep the same map so there can be more nations...


Are you sure? I thought the Whitecloaks formed shortly after Hawkwing's empire collapsed. Still well after the time setting here, though. I didn't catch it either. I have no problem with your idea. Let's just say they formed as a reaction to the Time of Madness, ok?
Philanchez
13-08-2005, 17:23
oki doki...but im pretty sure they formed during the aiel war
New Dracora
13-08-2005, 17:32
Meh. Keep the whitecloaks. I need a few agitators to make fun of. :p
Philanchez
13-08-2005, 19:07
would you guys prefer an offsite forum or an eathlike organization here on jolt?
Yafor 2
13-08-2005, 19:15
Shiota, please.

Aes Sedai: No better than Darkfriends.
Whitecloaks: Practically ruled by them, so, I suppose I like them...
Darkfriends: Hate 'em.
Aiel: Never heard of 'em.
Philanchez
13-08-2005, 19:36
alright added
Pantera
13-08-2005, 20:28
oki doki...but im pretty sure they formed during the aiel war

I'll assume if you're in the thread you know what's up on the WoT books and have at least read a few of them, but just in case, the next paragraph contains spoilers...


At the beginning of the first book the Aiel War was what, twenty years gone? Less? Tam Al'Thor had fought in the battle on Dragonmount when the King who'd cut down the Tree of Life for his throne was killed. After, they took his sword, they went home, leaving our lovable hero to be found by Tam.

Pedron Niall, Lord Commander of the Whitecloaks, is an -old- man. I've always assumed at least sixty, and he'd been a Child of the Light his entire life.

No, Whitecloaks are old, old. Around the time Hawkwing's Empire split up, or shortly thereafter, would be my guess as to when they began to gather strength and usurp the powers of the Amadician Kings.

Remember, though... During the books the Children aren't a single army, but a dozen. A hundred, scattered all over the map, but led by the Lord Commander, wherever he was. They had garrisons in almost every major city, from what I remember. There's a certain scene... Maybe it's Elayne, saying how if the 'Cloaks tried anything on Morgase she would smash them. Thom, or Lan mebbe, shakes his head, and it's then explained they're a massive organization, stretching from the Spine to the Sea, and if gathered together they would smash whatever was before them....

The point, in a roundabout way, is that you don't gain wide-spread influence and power like that in just a few years. The Cloaks have been around a -long- time.

My vote would be to keep the Children as a mod-only faction. Use them to stir up trouble and whatnot, burnings and torturings, instead of an all out faction. Would be a way to spice things up for factions... Just an idea.


Yeah.... I would vote for off-site, just because it's organized and looks so much neater. I'd even set it up for you, if you like, Philanchez.

{Edited to add a few sentences...}
Philanchez
13-08-2005, 20:46
nice ramble...yea i just checke it out and it seems you are right that they did from after the hundred years war if not during...also i can make the site on invision ive done about five or six so yea...and also im actually relatively new to the wot series myself but i liked them so much i decided to make this...ive actually only read up to the great hunt
Pantera
13-08-2005, 21:23
nice ramble...yea i just checke it out and it seems you are right that they did from after the hundred years war if not during...also i can make the site on invision ive done about five or six so yea...and also im actually relatively new to the wot series myself but i liked them so much i decided to make this...ive actually only read up to the great hunt

They get progressively worse, but you're good for a few books, yet. They stay solid until book six or seven. :) Alas, the women are poorly written, fawning over men half the time and fiery the other half, all the while tugging the shit out of their braids. Bleh. Too many filler characters and plots that twist and turn, but eventually lead nowhere or are ended in a cheesy way... BUT, that didn't stop me from reading the bloody things about five times. Haha.

If not for the numerous colorful cultures of the books I would never have read them as many times as I did. And Lan. He's the shit...

[Try George RR Martin's 'A Song of Ice and Fire' series. Best fantasy ever written, right there. But it's not for the weak and squeemish. Death, corruption, betrayal, politicks, and soooo much more... Main characters getting slaughtered left and right. Mmmmm.... I won't deny that I steal freely from his work in my own writing here at NS. :) Check it out. You won't be sorry.]

Back on topic... I'd be glad to help out in any way I can. It's been a year or two since I read WoT, but most of it is still in my head and if I need a reference I have the books behind me on my shelf.
Philanchez
13-08-2005, 21:31
thanx...i myself will need to venture into the realworld to go buy the dragon reborn soon enough as i only need like 400 more pages...
Philanchez
13-08-2005, 22:34
The white cloaks will now be a mod faction which will have reactions to all nations' dealings so say you are friendly with them then they will garrison in your country if youre not friendly then they will try to incite riots and dissention. Uldarious your claim will be changed to a nation that is very friendly with whitecloaks.
Philanchez
14-08-2005, 00:07
The forums (http://s13.invisionfree.com/Wheel_of_Time_Earth/index.php?act=idx) are up!
Yafor 2
14-08-2005, 00:12
In fact, I remember something about the Whitecloaks made as an organization to combat some invasion...just my $0.02.

Personally I like all of the books, he uses a very interesting method of fluid time. For good fantasy read David Eddings...favorite author with Robert Jordan coming in second.
Philanchez
14-08-2005, 03:23
bump!
Lachenburg
14-08-2005, 03:28
If you guys don't mind, I'll take Illian off your hands.
Philanchez
14-08-2005, 04:07
how about kharendor its in the same general area its just we are useing a map with more nations
Barlibgil
14-08-2005, 04:29
I can't have Tremalking, can I? Or even better, the Atha'an Miere...

If no to both of those, I'll take Caembarin.
Philanchez
14-08-2005, 04:39
were trying to keep it to the humans on the continent so caembarin it is
Tlaztlan
14-08-2005, 04:56
Okay so armies? what are the rules we are using
Barlibgil
14-08-2005, 04:56
I assume now I go register at the invision boards?
Philanchez
14-08-2005, 05:00
yes...as for armies we will be useing medieval type units such as the ones from the book...i would say for the larger nations they would have between 1 and 1.5 million and the smaller between .75 and .5 million
Philanchez
14-08-2005, 05:02
larger nations being about the size of balasun
Tlaztlan
14-08-2005, 05:11
so I am smaller then, I can deal with that, after all I am along the Blight, exucse for well trained military, Cha-Ching
Philanchez
14-08-2005, 05:19
lol yea im along the spine but im also large so i have medium trained but large army
Maineiacs
14-08-2005, 05:47
My country evolved into Saldaea, so we've got a lot of horses and we know how to use them.
Tlaztlan
14-08-2005, 05:47
Kind of expected that, Register in forum?
Philanchez
14-08-2005, 05:48
im mostly foot soldiers with a decent sized cav and some heavy cav under my high councillor
Tlaztlan
14-08-2005, 05:50
My guys are just well trained, mostly infantry but that dosen't mean they are pansys on a horse, just no as good as my protosaldeean friend
Philanchez
14-08-2005, 05:54
everyone need to register in the forums (http://s13.invisionfree.com/Wheel_of_Time_Earth/index.php?act=idx)
Maineiacs
14-08-2005, 07:03
Already did.
Uldarious
14-08-2005, 11:31
OOC: I've got a few questions and a few opinions...
So are we supposed to follow WoT history or do we make our own?
I also think armies might be a little smaller all things considered I think we'd be able to manage about 600 000 men at max if you're big at least for the start.
BTW I'll still stay as Dhowlan and I'll still be a very strong whitecloak supporter but mainly because you guys hate them so much and they would need somewhere to hang around in also I think I'm the Amadicia of the past although I may be a lil' off...and lastly do you guys know by what time the Current WoT nations came to be? thats all I got to say for now.
New Dracora
14-08-2005, 12:07
yes...as for armies we will be useing medieval type units such as the ones from the book...i would say for the larger nations they would have between 1 and 1.5 million and the smaller between .75 and .5 million

Thats a bit excessive.

Considering that the trolloc war have just ended, a war which was responsible for the death of a number of reasonably powerful kingdoms the world should be vastly under populated and armies ravaged to some extent.

I'd say more appropriate numbers would be 15,000 soldiers maximum for large militant kingdoms and around 7,500 to 5,000 soldiers for smaller kingdoms - that's just soldiers btw, not including support and such.

The continent ain't that big folks. :p
Uldarious
14-08-2005, 12:41
Yeah I agree actually although it might be more than that because as you just said the Trolloc wars just ended so it would take time for the populations to recover I was thinking modern day WoT standards...But still you could take the opinion that because they just came out of a war there'd be a lot of soldiers around...I think 10-20k is a fair estimate as that would be puny by modern day WoT standards but still reasonable for a war ravaged nation that has been fighting for some time although we'll just see what the rules on the forum are I guess.
New Dracora
14-08-2005, 14:39
True, also another thing to think about is around the time of the first book 5,000 soldiers was considered a large army... of course Rand changed all that. ;)

20,000 is a good number me thinks. - Remember we have 800+ years of properous growth to come yet.
Tlaztlan
14-08-2005, 22:39
Well that dose seem fair but first we need you one the other froum Hewitt, not gonna make mya army 12,000 less without the person whos idea it was there. ;)
Philanchez
14-08-2005, 23:52
im not really starting it in that specific time but if you want we can do that...what say 500,000-750,000 for large and 250,000-500,000 for small
Tlaztlan
15-08-2005, 00:06
I don't know how about 100 to 50k large and 50-10k small?
Philanchez
15-08-2005, 00:17
that seems ridiculously small to me and ive played a game where russia only had 1 million inhabitants
Tlaztlan
15-08-2005, 00:21
Okay well i was just trying to make things better for the guys who only wan't 20k max
Philanchez
15-08-2005, 00:25
ill limit the armys of nations to that much but im still saying that 20k in one nation only is a very very small amount...you wouldnt see people for days in the larger nations
New Dracora
15-08-2005, 00:40
that seems ridiculously small to me and ive played a game where russia only had 1 million inhabitants

This is medieval remember?

I mean, I'm probably only going to have around 100,000 citizens...
Tlaztlan
15-08-2005, 00:55
hewitt do you have just Tar Valon itslef or is it that huge area around it as well?
New Dracora
15-08-2005, 03:58
The area around it as well. Figure about 15,000 to 20,000 peeps in the city itself and reset in the countryside with about half of said countryside devestated by the war.......

And about 1,500 to 2,000 Aes Sedai. :D
Tlaztlan
15-08-2005, 03:59
Shaken fist Hewitt Shaken Fist, at least we are allies.
you still need to register on the forum though
New Dracora
15-08-2005, 04:03
I already have. :p
Tlaztlan
15-08-2005, 04:12
Excellent my plan comes to pass mmmmuuuuuaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!1111
New Dracora
15-08-2005, 05:31
Your plans?

;)
Tlaztlan
15-08-2005, 05:42
Yes the plan of having the Aes Sedai over for a bbq of course however i haven't sent you the invite yet so you don't know about this :D
Uldarious
15-08-2005, 11:31
How about we wait a few weeks before going into the large armies as we ARE just comming out of a very long, very bloody war and although most nations would be militant they'd be exhausted and ravaged as well so let the nations recover then we can bring up army size again, just a suggestions...Remember that modern day WoT was hardly peaceful and thus many people would still have died so who knows what could have been....But anyhoo perhaps add a list of nations not yet taken and what about False dragons? will they be some sort of larger issue to appear?
Philanchez
16-08-2005, 00:50
i was actually thinking about haveing the seanchan invadde
Maineiacs
16-08-2005, 00:55
OK, now how do you explain the Seanchan before Hawkwing?
Philanchez
16-08-2005, 01:01
i never said we were actually starting at FY 100 i think we should start way latter but yea its still not plausible so we'll stick to the false dragons....
Tlaztlan
16-08-2005, 01:03
Flase Dragon Works dandy
Philanchez
16-08-2005, 01:11
the question is who to control it
Uldarious
16-08-2005, 05:12
Well all false dragons sought their own power so although they'd be powerful allies for a short time (if you could ally with them at all that is) but they usually seem to try to gather large groups of followers and sow discord so you'd probably be hit hard by it anyway and if they were really cunning or insane they might turn on you.
For example if a false dragon rose in your country it would probably cause tens of thousands of deaths due to the ensuing fight and chaos however if it happened to someone else you could take the chance to take advantage of the chaos and claim more land sought of like a natural disaster but remember that you wouldn't really know it wasn't the real dragon reborn (after all a lot of False Dragons had been thought at some point to be the real dragon reborn or they wouldn't have been supported) But who to control them...it's a tough decision really.
Maineiacs
16-08-2005, 21:21
I can find very little info on my country. It's liable to resemble Saldaea quite a bit when I post my army, OK?
Uldarious
17-08-2005, 07:54
There's still plenty of nations left guys and girls don't be shy to stil sign up the more the better!
On topic, There's not bound to be a lot on any of our nations just use the information for Saldea with modifactions.
Uldarious
18-08-2005, 12:38
Hey wait, does anyone happen to remember when Hawkwing appeared and where? Because he could be an issue depending on time scale etc.
Talshadar
18-08-2005, 16:12
Artur Paendrag Tanreall was born in FY 912 to Myrdin Paendrag Maregore and Mailinde Paendrag Lyndhal, the King and Queen of Shandalle.

if you want more info i can probably provide it, i.e when he married etc.
Maineiacs
18-08-2005, 23:59
Hawkwing ascended the throne of Shandalle in FY 939.
Maineiacs
19-08-2005, 02:13
I can't post on the WoT site. I've tried to post my army twice now, it won't let me.
Philanchez
19-08-2005, 02:29
whats your nation?
Maineiacs
19-08-2005, 03:23
Barashande