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Republica Rojo Quisqueya, having established dominion over the Caribbean island of Hispaniola, presently invests heavily in its large ground forces and in its air force to protect against the apparently quite real threat of counter-revolution or of foreign-backed insurgency against the Red Party. But the young and deeply troubled island nation, having inherited Haiti's savagely primitive and vulnerable economy and the Dominican Republic's legacy of corruption and inequality, feels as vulnerable to external threats as to its own demons, and requires now the establishment of an effective maritime defence force.

The ambitious premier, Vicente Batistuta, has grand ambitions that imagine an offensive capability for the nation's future navy, saying that it is important that Rojo Quisqueya be able to protect itself by discouraging neighbours from conspiracy against the remarkable Hispaniolan union.

Batistuta's vision is hampered by the state of the Quisqueyan economy, worth only four thousand US dollars per head of population; by the lack of heavy ship-building industry and experience; and by the small size of the state's population base: just 17.1million persons. It is helped, however, by the backing of the Red Party, behind Chairman Victor Wiltord, which has forced defence spending up to a degree where it is expected to account for something equivalent to 10.8% of gross domestic product.

This figure made with allusion to a navy some forty-thousand personnel strong, and a typical operational budget probably between one and two billion dollars.

Allowing for heavy initial investment in new extensions to existing port facilities, in more than usually large training programmes, and in acquisition of hardware, this still means that the Patriotic Army Navy will need vessels that run cheaply and last for a long time.

The Rojo Quisqueyan Patriotic Army requires:

*To establish a naval force for operation in the Caribbean Sea and surrounding waters.

*To make full use of the nation's island composition and of the allowance for forty-thousand (40,000) naval personnel.

*The co-operation of established foreign shipbuilders and yards for the construction of:
-mine countermeasures vessels
-fast attack craft/missile boats
-coastal patrol craft
-anti-submarine frigates/sloops/corvettes
-non-nuclear patrol/attack submarines
-amphibious warfare vessels
-some support craft
-possible surface-combatant frigates/corvettes
-possible small/few air defence destroyers
-possible helicopter/light carrier

*And is interested in seeing some naval officers trained and equipment experts instructed abroad as part of any deals.

The Republic is prepared to spend some hundreds of millions of dollars acquiring warships to meet its needs, and hopes to find realistic interest.
It should be noted that the Patriotic Army does not have money to waste, and will not accept proposals simply because they arrive first or automatically because of limited competition: the defence needs of the Republic are of supreme importance.

(OOC: This is modern tech. Rojo Quisqueya is the result of a violent revolutionary union of Haiti and the Dominician Republic, and is a fairly poor but increasingly independent and militant society. It has a role-played population of 17.1 million regardless of what the NS page states. The hope is simply to interest foreign firms in producing some light to medium warships of various sorts. Rather than searching endlessly for a storefront and then buying everything on offer with little choice, we hope to make the manufacturers do as they should and look for our custom, then pick the best value for money we can find. I'd like a little more RP value than just walking into a thread, placing a matter of fact order for ten of these and two of that, and have nobody ever notice or care that Rojo Quisqueya was building a navy. If politics get into this, so much the better... I mean, feel free to look for my other posts and see what sort of nation/government you're dealing with.)

We do believe that we have some good vessels for this purpose for the Rojo Quisqueya Navy. If you are willing to see our designs please state so.
We are also willing to take a group of officers for free from Rojo Quisqueya to Hogsweat's Edinburgh Naval Academy to be instructed in the art of naval warfare from our experts.

OOC: people I'd Suggest:
Sarzonia/ Portland Iron Works
Isselmere/ Royal Shipyards Isselmere Nieland
Possibly Layarteb for more RL ships/ Layarteb defense export

I'd suggest Praetorian storefront, Bonstock's Discount storefront, and my storefront which has cheap surplus vessels for sale.

Type 33 Destroyer
The Type 33 is a light destroyer designed specifically for ASW and AAW in defence of larger capital ships. It is a cheap alternative and is fairly powerfully armed for it's size and cost.
Length: 122 Metres
Draught: 8 Metres
Beam: 11 Metres
Complement: 156
Armament:
1x 114mm Mod 11 ETC Naval cannon
1x 44 Cell VLS
2x 4 Barrel Harpoon Launcher
2x Lionheart Defender CIWS
2x 30mm
Engines:
COGAG, twin screw, achievable of 31 knots
Cost: 140 Million USD

Plate Class Submarine
The Plate Class SS is a diesel and electric submarine, designed for fast, quiet, anti capital ship operations.
Length: 72 Metres
Complement: 45
Armament:
6x 21" Torpedo Tubes
4x Tomahawk missile launchers
Engines:
COGAG, twin screw, achievable of 41 knots
Cost: 120 Million USD

Wave Class STOVL/Helicopter carrier
The Wave Class CVH is a small capital ship designed with deployment of aircraft for ASAC/ASW purposes, and for small engagements with it's mini-STOVL capacity.
Length: 211 Metres
Draught: 14 Metres
Beam: 25 Metres
Complement: 222
Aircraft:
11x Lynx Size Helicopters
7x Harrier Size STOVL/VTOL Aircraft
Armament:
2x Lionheart Defender CIWS
1x 114 Mod 11 ETC Cannon
Engines:
CODAG, triple screw, achievable of 29 knots
Cost: 225 Million USD

Type 33 Destroyer
The Type 33 is a light destroyer designed specifically for ASW and AAW in defence of larger capital ships. It is a cheap alternative and is fairly powerfully armed for it's size and cost.
Length: 122 Metres
Draught: 8 Metres
Beam: 11 Metres
Complement: 156
Armament:
1x 114mm Mod 11 ETC Naval cannon
1x 44 Cell VLS
2x 4 Barrel Harpoon Launcher
2x Lionheart Defender CIWS
2x 30mm
Engines:
COGAG, twin screw, achievable of 31 knots
Cost: 140 Million USD

And Hogsweat storefronts, so many of my arsenal ships are of Hogsweatian manufacture.

Newly appointed Secretary for the Navy, Cristobal Alvarez, was keen to make a name for himself in the new Quisqueyan order, but even he was taken aback by receipt of an apparently Hogsweatian response that seemed almost too good to be true. Before long, the new headquarters at Port Au Prince was chattering with efforts to satisfy the Secretary's paranoid desire for confirmation that nobody was pulling his leg, and that the informal offer of training for Quisqueyan officers and the extremely cheap modern warships really did originate from proper Hogsweatian authorities.

Though Alvarez's fear of embarrassing himself on his first major assignment meant that the response was a little delayed, Pedernales eventually returned word of its, "significant interest" in both the Edinburgh Naval Academy and in the products of Hogsweatian maritime defence industry.

Initial -and vague- talk signified great interest in the Type 33 for its multi-role capability and seemingly low initial cost (just how tempremental or easy to maintain it was could yet factor in), and the idea of perhaps being able to afford a guided missile submarine almost knocked the Premier off his feet, though others in government and military felt that it would be wiser to seek a less capable patrol submarine for even lower cost, and feared that keeping a missile submarine in use could be difficult. The Wave Class had similar effects on all involved... enthusiasm and skepticism alike. There was certainly hope all around.

(OOC: Been interrupted, back later.)

[OOC: I'm glad your interested, I don't feel like propping up an IC post as of now (2:00 AM) but it's a pity your budget is so low, as all my other stuff costs *alot* of money. However I'll see what else I can dig up: those designs were off the top of my head]

we give you one supreicy class carrier (54 planes) and 3 cona class missile frigates(45 tomahawks,90 sams,2 8 inch guns,30 harpoons) and 1 fast attack torpedo boat(4 mark 2 torpedos) for free.



Adm.Samiade Norka
Commander fo the navy

we give you one supreicy class carrier (54 planes) and 3 cona class missile frigates(45 tomahawks,90 sams,2 8 inch guns,30 harpoons) and 1 fast attack torpedo boat(4 mark 2 torpedos) for free.



Adm.Samiade Norka
Commander fo the navy
[OOC: I suggest you ignore this post]

Leafanistan as a show of good will can offer you 3 Academy-class Patrol boats (stats in signature storefront) and training for your men. If establish trading relations with us.

Aequatian Military Industries has a wide range of naval vessels which would fill the roles you have set requirements for.

-mine countermeasures vessels
Pioneer Class Mine Countermeasures Ship
-anti-submarine frigates/sloops/corvettes
Greenwood Class General-Purpose Frigate
-amphibious warfare vessels
Mercer Class Amphibious Assault Ship
Gilman Class Amphibious Transport Dock
Keppel Class Amphibious Transport Dock
-some support craft
Marriman Class Fast Combat Support Ships
Levett Class Fleet Tender
Hopper Class Submarine Tender
-possible surface-combatant frigates/corvettes
Vorrasi Class Guided-Missile Frigate
-possible small/few air defence destroyers
Newbiggin Class Guided-Missile Destroyer
Wolfe Class General Purpose Destroyer
-possible helicopter/light carrier
Amazon Class Attack Carrier

Aequatian Military Industries (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=414464)

[OOC: I suggest you ignore this post]


why ignore?

(OOC: Morvonia, please take no offence, but I am inclined to reject your kind offer, as I have doubts about how realistic it really is. Unless Morvonia had a really major interest in Quisqueyan affairs, I can't see donation of hundreds of millions (if not billions) of dollars worth of military hardware actually going through. Besides, much as Premier Batistuta may want to take it, there's no way that the Quisqueyan economy could support a fleet carrier without giving up most of the rest of its military expenditure. Thanks, anyway!)

The Leafanistani approach has been addressed with interest in Pedernales and Port-Au-Prince, with the latter asking questions on minor points such as to the nature of the Academy's 12.7mm machineguns (be they western 12.7x99mm, or Russian 12.7x107mm as already fielded by the Quisqueyan military?), while the capital took an interest in trade relations. Ferronickel, gold, silver, sugar, coffee, cocoa, tobacco, mangoes, other fruits, meats, and consumer goods were all staple exports presently bound almost entirely for nations such as Cuba, Venezuala, and China, while medical products, oil, and arms flowed in the opposite direction. The Republic was certainly interested in diversification of its trade partnerships, but was presently doing quite well from sending its minerals and crops to China instead of the US.
Secretary Cristobal Alvarez meanwhile was trying to arrange the Quisqueyan Navy's prospects.

The Aequatian Military Industries Pioneer Class MCM appeared to be a capable vessel, but was almost certainly too expensive to be aquired in numbers sufficient to cover the island nation's needs... consideration was being given to the possibility of aquiring just one or two with a view to creating them command vessels for minesweeper flotillas comprised of smaller boats of just a couple of hundred tons.

Likewise he was forced to conclude that most other Aequatian warships were realistically beyond the means of the Patriotic Army to afford: US$7.4bln was the projected defence spend for next year, with allowances this year for disproportionate procurement costs... even with those, spending close to a billion dollars for each of several warships was just not possible, despite the Premier's enthusiasm.

Still interested in the Wave Class carrier (owing almost entirely to Batistuta's encouragement), Pedernales was refining its requirement for amphibious warships to something closer to one or two thousand tons, noting that its needs are short-range and usually likely to be relatively light.
Alvarez was now hoping to negotiate the original construction of a modified Wave Class for Rojo Quisqueya, the Republic's military establishment being apparently opposed to the adoption of ETC weaponry at this stage, and the issue of exactly what aircraft were to be acquired remaining thus far unresolved.

We sell mostly russian equipment, but if you wish we could use NATO standard.

I would reccomend the Black Queen Type Aircraft Carriers.

The Black Queen

Builder: W.M.D., Inc. Pearl Harbor, Honolulu, Hawaii
Power Plant: Three Nuclear Power Plant (A4W Pressurized Water Reactors?), 3 Screws
Rendundant Power Plant: Two Desiel/Electric (General Electric?) delivering 47,000 H.P. each to 2 of the 3 screws
Length: 1,100 feet
Flight Deck:
Width: 310 feet
Area: 5.75 acres
Catapults: 3, Electromagnetic "ski launch" design
Aircraft Elevators: 3
Beam: 144 feet (main hull), 35 feet (outrigger hulls)
Displacement: Approx. 102,000 tons
Speed: 28+ knots nuclear power/18+ knots desiel-electric
Aircraft: 55 (Standard Deployment, 72 possible with reductions in helicopter compliment)
Helicopters: 20 (Standard - 5 Appache Attack, 15 Sea-Stallion or similar)
Crew:
Ship's Company 2,650
Air Wing 2,100
Armament:
4 Sea Sparrow launchers
4 Phalanx CIWS 20mm mounts
4 Tomahawk DSLAM launchers
Combat Systems SPS-48E 3-D air search radar & SPS-49(V)5 2-D air search radar
3 Mk91 Fire Control
AN/SLQ-32(V)4 active jamming/deception with AN/WLR-1H ESM
6 Targeted EMP arrays
4 Super-Cav Torpedo Launchers (W.M.D., Inc. TL300)
Electronics: W.M.D., Inc. PAL9500AI Computer system & Network w/ 4 layer redundancy
Guidance: Satellite GPS
Communications: Satellite Radio, Television & Microwave based broadband internet
Cost: $6.49 Billion

CROSS-SECTION
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FLIGHT & HANGAR #1 DECK
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HANGAR-DECK#2
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DECK #3
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DECK #4
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DECK #5
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ARTIST'S SKETCH
http://www.first-to-fly.com/Program...r%20carrier.jpg

Surface Action Group

Basically a carrier group with a battleship instead of a carrier. Great for those who like the pre-WWII notion of capital ship superiority, or those who would like to bombard enemy shores, which this group excells at.

1 Iowa-class battleship
2 Ticonderoga class guided missile cruisers
1 Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyer
3 Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates
2 Los Angeles class attack submarines
1 Supply class fast combat support ship

Price: 10 Billion USD

I would also suggest going to Bonstock's Military Compounds and purchasing some Coast Guard Veichles too.

Coast Guard Helicopter/Patrol Boat Squadron

A composite organization with everything you need to defend your coast against smugglers, terrorists, or small attacks.

12 HH-65 Dolphin rescue helicopter
2 WPB 82' Point-class patrol boat
600 Coast Guard uniforms, plus maintenance equipment

Naval Base

Exactly as it says. Your carriers need a base, too. So... take the hint. Buy this base.

Contents:

4 1km long concrete wharfs with loading cranes and gas hoses
15 1,000-troop barracks
2 100m repair ships
100 HMMWVs

Price: 1 billion USD



Note:I am not seeling these. These are Stats from things I have bought. The shop owners will be more than happy to sell you these!

I am selling these:

Heavy Cruisers:

Builder: Greater Mactopian Shipbuilding Yards
Power Source: 2 Nuclear Reactors (A4W Pressurized Water Reactors), 3 screws
Rendundant Power Plant: Two Desiel/Electric (General Electric) delivering 44,000 H.P. each to 2 of the 3 screws
Length: 750 feet
Width 250 feet
Area: 2 1/2 Acres
Displacement: Approx 29 Tons (w/o ammo, w/ approx. 37 tons)
Speed: 31+ knots nuclear power/22+ knots desiel-electric
Crew:
400(including officers)
Armament:
4 22" Cannons, (fire 1/2 ton shell)
Armament: MK26 missile launcher (CG 47 thru CG 51)
Standard Missile (MR) or MK41 vertical launching system (CG 52 thru CG 73)
Standard Missile (MR); Vertical Launch ASROC (VLA) Missile;
Tomahawk Cruise Missile; Six MK-46 torpedoes (from two triple mounts); Two MK 45 5-inch/54 caliber lightweight guns;
Two Phalanx close-in-weapons systems.
Combat Systems SPS-48E 3-D air search radar & SPS-49(V)5 2-D air search radar
3 Mk91 Fire Control
AN/SLQ-32(V)4 active jamming/deception with AN/WLR-1H ESM
Lifts:
1 Aircraft Lift
Aircraft:
Two SH-2 Seasprite (LAMPS) in CG 47-48;
Two SH-60 Sea Hawk (LAMPS III).

Air Craft Crews:
17-20 personell


Price: 2.58 Billion USD each


Amphibious Assault Ships:

Builder: Greater Mactopian Shipbuilding Yards.
Propulsion: Two marine gas turbines, two shafts, 70,000 total brake horsepower.
Length: 921 feet (280.7 meters).
Beam: 116 feet (35.4 meters).
Displacement: Approximately 50,100 long tons (50,905 metric tons) full load.
Speed: 20+ knots.
Aircraft: A mix of: F-35B Joint Strike Fighters (JSF) STOVL aircraft; MV-22 Osprey VTOL tiltrotors; CH-53E Sea Stallion helicopters; UH-1YHuey helicopters; AH-1Z Super Cobra helicopters; MH-60S Seahawk helicopters.
Arnament:
2 RAM launchers;
2 NATO Sea Sparrow launchers;
6 20mm Phalanx CIWS mounts
4 .50 cal. machine guns; 4
25 mm Mk 38 machine guns
Crew:
Ships Company: 123 officers, 1,533 enlisted
Marine Detachment: 2,145 Fully loaded Marines

Price: 1.2 Billion USD.

Frigates:

Builder: G.M. Shipbuilding Yards
Propulsion: Two General Electric LM 2500 gas turbine engines; 1 shaft, 41,000 shaft horsepower total.
Length: 445 feet (133.5 meters); 453 feet (135.9 meters) with LAMPS III modification.
Beam: 45 feet (13.5 meters).
Displacement: 4,100 tons (4,165.80 metric tons) full load.
Speed: 29 plus knots (33.4+ miles per hour).
Crew: 17 Officers, 198 Enlisted.
Armament: Standard Missile (MR);
Harpoon (from Standard Missile Launcher);
Six MK-46 torpedoes(from two triple mounts);
One 76 mm (3-inch)/62 caliber MK 75 rapid fire gun;
One Phalanx close-in-weapons system.
Aircraft: Two SH-60 (LAMPS III) in FFG 8, 28, 29, 32, 33, 36-61
One SH-2 (Lamps Mk-I) in FFG 9-19, 30, 31.
Transport:
22 million gallons of fuel
100 tons of Food stuffs.
100 M1A1 Abrams tanks (Fully Loaded)

Price: 100 Million USD

Submarines

Builder: G.M.S.Y.
Propulsion: One nuclear reactor, one shaft
Length: 377 feet (114.8 meters)
Beam: 34 feet (10.4 meters)
Displacement: Approximately 7,800 tons (7,925 metric tons) submerged
Speed: 25+ knots (28+ miles per hour, 46.3+ kph)
Crew: 134: 14 Officers; 120 Enlisted
Armament:
Tomahawk missiles,
twelve VLS tubes, MK-48 ADCAP torpedoes,
four torpedo tubes.

Price: 300 Million USD

Heres some stuff you mite want to buy

Tidal Wave Class-$350 Million
Type: LCAC
Power Plant: 4- Allied-Signal TF-40B gas turbines (2 for propulsion/2 for lift); 16,000 hp sustained; 2- shrouded reversible pitch airscrews; 4- double-entry fans, centrifugal or mixed flow (lift) / 4 – Vericor Power Systems ETF-40B gas turbines with Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC) (2 for propulsion/2 for lift); 16,000 hp sustained; 2- shrouded reversible pitch airscrews; 4- double-entry fans, centrifugal or mixed flow (lift)
Length: 87 feet 11 inches (26.4 meters)
Beam: 47 feet (14.3 meters)
Displacement: 87.2 tons (88.60 metric tons) light; 170-182 tons (172.73 - 184.92 metric tons) full load
Range: 200 miles at 40 kts with payload / 300 miles at 35 kts with payload
Speed: 40+ knots (46+ mph; 74.08 kph) with full load
Load Capacity: 60 tons / 75 ton overload (54.43/68.04 tonnes)
Military lift: 50 troops or 4 MBTs or 6 Humvees (or similar vehicles)
Crew: Five
Armament: 2 - 12.7mm MGs. Gun mounts will support: M-2HB .50 cal machine gun; Mk-19 Mod3 40mm grenade launcher; M-60 machine gun
Image: http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/...wavelcac1ku.gif

Wasp Class-$850 Million
Type: Helicopter Assault Ship
Power Plant: (LHDs 1–7) two boilers, two geared steam turbines, two shafts, 70,000 total shaft horsepower; (LHD 8) two gas turbines, two shafts; 70,000 total shaft horsepower, two 5,000 horsepower auxiliary propulsion motors
Length: 844 feet (253.2 meters)
Beam: 106 feet (31.8 meters)
Displacement:41,772 tons (full load)
Speed: 20+ knots (23.5+ miles per hour)
Aircraft: 12 helicopters, or 6 VTOL Aricraft
Crew:104 officers, 1,004 enlisted
Marine Detachment: 1,894
Cargo: Can carry 3 Tidal Wave Class LCACs
Armament: Two RAM launchers; two NATO Sea Sparrow launchers; three 20mm Phalanx CIWS mounts (two on LHD 5-7); four .50 cal. machine guns; four 25 mm Mk 38 machine guns
Image: http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/...ptership9ky.gif

Seawolf Class-$510 Million
Type: Submarine
Power Plant: One nuclear reactor, one shaft
Length:453 feet
Beam: 40 feet
Submerged Displacement:
SSNs 21 and 22: 9,138 tons (9,284 metric tons);
SSN 23 12,158 tons (12,353 metric tons)
Speed: 25+ knots (28+ miles per hour, 46.3+ kph)
Crew: 140: 14 Officers; 126 Enlisted
Armament: Tomahawk missiles, MK-48 torpedoes, eight torpedo tubes.
Image: http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/...awolfsub0gj.gif

Arleigh Burke Class-$1.5 Billion
Type: Destroyer
Power Plant: Four General Electric LM 2500-30 gas turbines; two shafts, 100,000 total shaft horsepower.
SPY-1 Radar and Combat System Integrator: Lockheed Martin
Length:509 feet
Beam: 59 feet
Displacement:9,200 tons
Speed: in excess of 30 knots
Aircraft: None.
Crew: 23 officers, 300 enlisted
Armament: Standard missile; Vertical Launch ASROC (VLA) missiles; six Mk-46 torpedoes (from two triple tube mounts); one 5"/54 caliber Mk-45 (lightweight gun); two 20mm Phalanx CIWS
Image: http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/...estroyer4lq.gif

Sukanya Class-$600 Million
Type: Large Patrol Craft
Propulsion: Two diesel motors with 12,880 hp and 2 shafts.
Displacement: 1890 tons full load.
Speed: 21 knots.
Range: 5800 miles at 15 knots.
Crew: 140 (incl. 15 officers).
Aircraft: One HAL Chetak.
Weapons: One Bofors 40mm/60 gun at 120 rds/min to 5.5n miles; 10 km. May be replaced with a 76mm gun in due course. Has four 12.7mm machine guns.
Image: http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/...yapatrol5wr.jpg

Cyclone Class-$245 Millon
Type: Coastal Patrol Ship
Power Plant: Four Paxman diesels; four shafts; 3,350 shaft horsepower
Length: 170 feet (51.82 meters)
Beam: 25 feet (7.62 meters)
Displacement: 331 tons (336.31 metric tons) full load
Speed: 35 knots (40 miles per hour; 65 kilometers/hr.)
Crew: Four officers, 24 enlisted personnel
Armament: One MK 96 and one MK 38 25mm machine guns; Five .50 caliber machine guns; two MK 19 40mm automatic grenade launchers; Two M-60 machine guns
Image: http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7594/cougar17cn.jpg

Wasp Class-$850 Million
Type: Helicopter Assault Ship
Power Plant: (LHDs 1–7) two boilers, two geared steam turbines, two shafts, 70,000 total shaft horsepower; (LHD 8) two gas turbines, two shafts; 70,000 total shaft horsepower, two 5,000 horsepower auxiliary propulsion motors
Length: 844 feet (253.2 meters)
Beam: 106 feet (31.8 meters)
Displacement:41,772 tons (full load)
Speed: 20+ knots (23.5+ miles per hour)
Aircraft: 12 helicopters, or 6 VTOL Aricraft
Crew:104 officers, 1,004 enlisted
Marine Detachment: 1,894
Cargo: Can carry 3 Tidal Wave Class LCACs
Armament: Two RAM launchers; two NATO Sea Sparrow launchers; three 20mm Phalanx CIWS mounts (two on LHD 5-7); four .50 cal. machine guns; four 25 mm Mk 38 machine guns
Image: http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/...ptership9ky.gif

Just tell me what you want and I'll have it shiped.

Daleburgetopia

From: Sir George Fredericks, Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Development, UKIN
Subject: Defence contracts

To Whom It May Concern:

The United Kingdom of Isselmere-Nieland is been the home to several important manufacturers of fine arms, some of which are listed below:

Land Forces
Isselmere Motor Works - Land Defence Systems (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=391319)

Air Force
Detmerian Aerospace Dynamics (DAS) (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=380088)

Navy
Royal Shipyards (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=361894)

Thank you for taking the time to peruse these fine merchants and we look forward to doing business with your glorious nation.

Sincerely,

The Rt. Hon. Sir George Fredericks, KL, MP, CS, PC
Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Development
UKIN

The Incorporated Sarzonian Defence Companies would be interested in your custom. We have the following companies:

Navy
Portland Iron Works (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=404832)

Air Force
Avalon Aerospace Corporation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=365142)

Army
Incorporated Ordnance Company (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=394656)