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Earth X International and National Incidents

Czechoslovakia-
10-08-2005, 22:49
The Rules

1. I am God in this Earth. I decide what comes and goes. My assistants, Beautiful Yalaluxurios and Kjata Major, will help me with this job.(As BY's making the maps. I can't do shit with graphics on this iMac. And Kjata Major is more active and dedicated than me. :p)

2. We will be using NationStates populations and military figures in this RP. Use:

NationStates Economy (http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/)

This site to figure out your economy, and use:

NationStates Military (http://twr.1colony.com/ver8/calc8.0.html)

This site to figure out your military.

3. BE ACTIVE. If you do not post at least once a week, your nation will be kicked from Earth X and your territory RPed as neutral. However, there is an exception. If you announce that you will be going on vacation, you will be given one month to post at least once before your territory is RPed as neutral and you nation is kicked.

3. Modern Tech and Post Modern Tech only. No clones, no nuclear weapons(I find them too cheap), no futuristic weapons and/or vehicles please.

4. Any international incidents in Earth X are limited to Earth X nations ONLY.

5. When RPing a war with another, member controlled nation, you will RP fairly with him or her. Against neutral nations, you must first calculate their military by using:

The CIA Factbook (http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/)

Then, you RP fairly. Don't make it a total win for you. These people, unless you have REALLY good ways with words, will not want to be conquered, and will fight till the bitter end, when it's absolutely hopeless.

6. It is urged and recommended that you join the region "Earth X". You don't HAVE to of course, but it will make things a bit more fun.

More rules may be added later. Maps will also be added later.



Czechoslovakia-: Czech Republic, Slovakia, Austria, Hungary, Switzerland, Germany, Poland, Kaliningrad Oblast

Texarkania: Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi

Hitler the Nazi: United Kingdom, Greece, South Korea, North Korea, Finland

Kjata Major: Japan, Philippines, Malaysia

Helnacht: France, Spain, Portugal, Morocco, Belgium, Azores, Channel Islands

Buben: British Columbia, Alberta, Washington State

Rodenka: Italy, Sicily, Malta, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Yugoslavia.

Yderia: Ireland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Estonia

Frozopia: South Africa

Mauiwowie: New South Wales, Victoria, Capital Territory

Lachenburg: Romania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Ukraine, Moldova

Parthini: Guyana, Suriname, French Guiana, Cuba, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, Bahamas, Bermuda, Luxembourg, Florida, Venezuela

Sardukarr: Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Tennesse, Kentucky, West Virginia, Delaware, Maryland

Defuniak: Sichuan, Chongquing (Provinces of China)

Parthus: Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Turkey

Roman Republic: Saudi Arabia, Oman, Yemen, United Arab Emrites, Qatar, Kuwait

Magical Mages: Ashmore and Cartier Islands, Cocos (Keeling) Islands, Heard Island and McDonald Islands, Maldives, Christmas Island, Thailand, Federated States of Micronesia, Soloman Islands, New Caledonia, Cook Islands, Kiribati, Wake Island, Johnston Atoll, Northern Mariana Islands, Nauru, Tuvalu, Howland Island, Baker Island, Marshall Islands, French Polynesia, New Zealand, East Timor, Coral Sea Islands, Vanuatu, Samoa

Sharina: Eastern Brazil

Arkanaland: Oklahoma, New Mexico, Kansas, California, Arizona, Colorado

Truitt: The Congo, Sudan

**

Preimer Mikalchev looked out of his window to the capital of Czechoslovakia, Prague. Workers bustled about like worker bees, rebuilding torn down cities, while soldiers and police looked on, directing it all.

Czechoslovakia was tiny in population, but quite massive in territory. After the third World War, a war of words and politics, the world dissolved into anarchy and chaos. Fortunately, the Czech Republic and Slovakia reunified to save themselves from the madness all around.

Now known as Czechoslovakia, they began to conquer the territory around them, Poland and Germany being massive and rewarding gains. Austria and Hungary, Switzerland was the only small problem in the conquest, but it too went down.

Now, it was a time for rebuilding, and soon, once the population regrew, it'd be a time for politics and war.
Kjata Major
10-08-2005, 23:14
My current nation info from Sunset (http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatistics.php)
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Population: 87,000,000
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: Powerhouse
Political Freedoms: Outlawed
Income Tax Rate: 0%
Exchange Rate: 1 credit = $1.64
Gross Domestic Product Per Capita: $30,481
Total National Production: $2,651,828,036,088
Private Consumption: $2,436,235,780,440
Government Budget: $269,490,319,560
Administration (0%): $0
Welfare (6%): $12,935,535,339
Healthcare (9%): $19,403,303,008
Education (9%): $19,403,303,008
Religion and Spirituality (0%): $0
Defence (19%): $40,962,528,573
Law and Order (34%): $73,301,366,920
Commerce (22%): $47,430,296,243
Public Transport (0%): $0
Environment (0%): $0
Social Equality (0%): $0
Government Waste (20%): $53,898,063,912
Frozopia
10-08-2005, 23:24
My nations Economy:
Government Category: Corporate Police State
Government Priority: Law & Order
Economic Rating: Powerhouse
Civil Rights Rating: Rare
Political Freedoms: Outlawed
Income Tax Rate: 46%
Major Industry: Arms Manufacturing
National Animal: ice dragon
National Currency: frozo
Total Population: 45,000,000
Government Budget Details Administration: $109,851,033,600.00 32%
Social Welfare: $0.00 0%
Healthcare: $0.00 0%
Education: $17,164,224,000.00 5%
Religion & Spirituality: $0.00 0%
Defence: $58,358,361,600.00 17%
Law & Order: $92,686,809,600.00 27%
Commerce: $61,791,206,400.00 18%
Public Transport: $0.00 0%
The Environment: $0.00 0%
Social Equality: $0.00 0%
Frozopia Economic Statistics Exchange Rate: 1 frozo = $1.0803
Gross Domestic Product: $848,737,235,509.21
GDP Per Capita: $18,860.83
Unemployment Rate: 4.55%
Consumption: $501,552,000,000.00
Government Budget: $429,105,600,000.00
Government Expenditures: $343,284,480,000.00
Goverment Waste: $85,821,120,000.00
Exports: $113,905,505,509.21
Imports: $110,004,750,000.00
Trade Surplus: $3,900,755,509.21

Military (realistic setting?):
Military percent: 0.7%

Average earnings Per Person: 2333.3333333333335USD per Month

Average earnings Per Person: 28000USD per Year

This means your GDP is 105000000000 USD per month.

Per year this is 1260000000000 USD.

The government gets 48300000000 USD per Month.

The government gets 579600000000 USD per Year.

Your military will be roughly 0.7% of the population. So roughly 315000

Your retired will be roughly 35% of the population. So roughly 15750000
Rodenka
10-08-2005, 23:43
Iosef Valdislov, Premier of Rodenka, looked out of his office window at the lcity of Rome. Russian in name, Russian in birth, but now Rodenken in nationality. The nation of rodenka had been forger form the chaos after World War 3. He head quickly filled the power vacum in Italy, than coerced or conquered other countries into joining his new nation. And now, this country would be great. Greater than Rome, greater than anything that had come before!
Frozopia
10-08-2005, 23:48
South Africa government was overthrown by white men once again. Using brutal methods to crush the black resistance, they were now under the power of Conor Froz. Naming the new state after himself, he formed Frozopia.
Frozopia would rule Africa, and plans for invading Boswana. Frozopia would become the new power off the world.....
Yderia
10-08-2005, 23:51
Stats for the Confederation of Yderia

Population: 548,000,000
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: Fair
Political Freedoms: Rare
Income Tax Rate: 100%
Exchange Rate: 1 Reich Mark = $0.34
Gross Domestic Product Per Capita: $4,231
Total National Production: $2,318,540,492,791
Private Consumption: $0
Government Budget: $2,576,156,103,102
Administration (11%): $255,039,454,207
Welfare (9%): $208,668,644,351
Healthcare (10%): $231,854,049,279
Education (11%): $255,039,454,207
Religion and Spirituality (3%): $69,556,214,784
Defence (8%): $185,483,239,423
Law and Order (27%): $626,005,933,054
Commerce (0%): $0
Public Transport (11%): $255,039,454,207
Environment (10%): $231,854,049,279
Social Equality (0%): $0
Government Waste (10%): $257,615,610,310

UN Estimates

Economic Grey Sector: 26.91%
Grey Sector Product: $853,690,069,398
Grey Sector Breakdown:
Basic Necessities: 5.26%
Healthcare: 5.11%
Education: 4.96%
Transportation: 4.96%
Luxuries: 6.62%
Recovered Product: $207,446,686,864
Worker Enthusiasm: 64%
Government Efficiency: 90%
Consumer Confidence: 56%
Unemployment: 15.02%
Population Growth Rate: 1.07%
Nation Age: 94 Days
Literacy: 90.75%
National Loyalty (Individual): 30%

Military

Population: 548,000,000
Military percent: 0.7%
Average earnings Per Person: 3,750 USD per Month
Average earnings Per Person: 45,000 USD per Year
GDP is 2,055,000,000,000 USD per month.
Per year this is 24,660,000,000,000 USD
The government gets 2,055,000,000,000 USD per Month
The government gets 24,660,000,000,000 USD per Year
Military 0.7% of the population. (3,836,000)
Auxiliary Forces - 191,800
Your retired will be roughly 35% of the population.
Kjata Major
10-08-2005, 23:52
Kjata currently controls Japan, Philippines, and Malaysia.

Secret information! (No you cannot 'plan' for this)

Key areas of interest, North and South Korea.

Conflict Estimated info:
Chance of war: 95%
Chance of winning: 73%
Cost: $80 billion
Attack Pattern: Beta

Estimated Losses: 60,000+
Estimated Kills: 300,000+ (Includes civilians)

Naval vessels to be used: 3500
Tanks: 500
Assault Vehicles: 7000
Troops: 250,000 (50,000 a month after inital landing)

Diplomacy chance: 3%
Total surrender of Korea to Kjata.
No action: 2%
Land becomes worthless and is not needed.
Starenell
11-08-2005, 00:49
National Statistics:
Domestic Statistics Government Category: Democratic Socialists
Government Priority: Defence
Economic Rating: Reasonable
Civil Rights Rating: Average
Political Freedoms: Some
Income Tax Rate: 100%
Major Industry: Information Technology
National Animal: invader bred rsak
National Currency: celestiar
Total Population: 1,297,000,000
Government Budget Details Administration: $852,334,255,551.49 17%
Social Welfare: $200,549,236,600.35 4%
Healthcare: $50,137,309,150.09 1%
Education: $651,785,018,951.14 13%
Religion & Spirituality: $0.00 0%
Defence: $952,608,873,851.66 19%
Law & Order: $651,785,018,951.14 13%
Commerce: $200,549,236,600.35 4%
Public Transport: $451,235,782,350.79 9%
The Environment: $752,059,637,251.31 15%
Social Equality: $300,823,854,900.52 6%
Starenell Economic Statistics Exchange Rate: 4.5733 celestiars = $1
Gross Domestic Product: $5,010,656,080,568.88
GDP Per Capita: $3,863.27
Unemployment Rate: 12.10%
Consumption: $0.00
Government Budget: $5,333,756,292,562.50
Government Expenditures: $5,013,730,915,008.75
Goverment Waste: $320,025,377,553.75
Exports: $629,971,998,263.26
Imports: $633,046,832,703.13
Trade Deficit: $3,074,834,439.87
Military Percent: 0.7%
Average Earnings Per Person: 8000 USD a month-96000 /Year
GDP: 10376000000000 USD/ Month-124512000000000/ Year
Military: 8625050
Reserves: 453950
Budget: 37373600000000
/Soldier: 4114285.714
(How do I claim land? Sorry I am new at Earths)
Mauiwowee
11-08-2005, 00:54
King Roxicet (or "Rox" as he preferred to be called) Soma Narcosis sat back in his chair to contemplate the situation. As he did so, he found himself thinking about the recent history of Australia and how he had come to power. Australia had been one of the last nations to collapse as a result of the economic and political turmoil occassioned by the world wide great depression of 2009. However, isolated as it was, Australia still relied on other nations and their economies to keep their's going. By 2011, Australia was in anarchy and civil war loomed large. It was then that Rox had stepped into the limelight. Being 1/2 native, aboriginal Australian had gained him significant support from many in Australia. Having been 1st Mate on one of Australia's CVX class Aircraft carriers, the Outback had garned him significant support from what remained of the loyal Australian military. With the popular support he enjoyed, backed by the miliatry might he was able to muster up, he had staged a small coup and declared himself king of Australia. As it stood now, only the Capital Territory, New South Wales and Victoria were fully united under his rule, but the rest of Australia, if it didn't organize itself soon, would shortly face conquest and re-unification into the kingdom.
Rox was generally a benevolent ruler, he allowed the people most all of the freedoms they had enjoyed under the former Australian government. However, he did demand loyalty to him and a recognition by the people that with those freedoms came responsibilities. Currently, re-building the infra-structure of Australia was a large priority, as was a need for oil. Coal and Uranium powered the cities and much of the navy. But oil was needed for all its many other uses such as gasoline and industry. He was prepared to trade gold, iron ore, steel and uranium for the oil, but he needed to find out who in this semi-organized world he could deal with and trust. He had banned private passenger autos that ran on gasoline or desiel for the time being and was being extremely conservative with the oil reserves he still had under his control. It was important that the military be able to defend Australia and that such commerce as was necessary be carried out. A program to put coal fired trains back in service temporarily was up and running as was construction of railroad tracks across the territory he controlled. Fully electric trains were being phased in and the coal fired ones would once again return to the pages of history if all went well sometime in the next 5 years or so. No, the big issue now was who could he trust, who shoul he ally himself with in these troubled times. That was an issue that needed study.

Mauiwowee's Economy
Government Category: New York Times Democracy
Government Priority: Defence
Economic Rating: Very Strong
Civil Rights Rating: Excellent
Political Freedoms: Superb
Income Tax Rate: 100%
Major Industry: Beef-Based Agriculture
National Animal: ferret
National Currency: bud
Total Population: 2,530,000,000
Government Budget Details
Administration: $0.00 0%
Social Welfare: $0.00 0%
Healthcare: $0.00 0%
Education: $10,023,565,746,153.96 27%
Religion & Spirituality: $0.00 0%
Defence: $13,364,754,328,205.28 36%
Law & Order: $8,167,349,867,236.56 22%
Commerce: $371,243,175,783.48 1%
Public Transport: $4,083,674,933,618.28 11%
The Environment: $1,113,729,527,350.44 3%
Social Equality: $0.00 0%
Mauiwowee Economic Statistics
Exchange Rate: 1.3629 buds = $1
Gross Domestic Product: $36,686,411,435,077.73
GDP Per Capita: $14,500.56
Unemployment Rate: 6.16%
Consumption: $0.00
Government Budget: $37,881,956,712,600.01
Government Expenditures: $37,124,317,578,348.01
Goverment Waste: $757,639,134,252.00
Exports: $4,024,151,257,973.48
Imports: $4,462,057,401,243.75
Trade Deficit: $437,906,143,270.28

Mauiwoweean Military

Military percent: 0.7% = roughly 17,710,000

OOC: Details on Equipment possessed, etc. later
Kjata Major
11-08-2005, 01:05
Kjata's rise to power - Timeline

2003 - Kjata was created from Ryo's suffering
2004 - 1st and 2nd Evolution of Kjata
2005 - Small cult of 25,000 followers
2010 - Kyushu falls to Kjata Cult members
2012 - Japan falls completely under Kjata control; Japan renamed to Kjata Major
2015 - Philippines and Malaysia both fall to Kjata Major
2019 - Kjata sets her eyes on the west, China, Korea, Russia.

2020 - The beginning of the Empire!

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Kjata is a demi-God if you can call her that. She is a creation of suffering and pain and the evil of the world. People outside of Kjata Major do not believe in her magical powers and thinks it is all fake. One thing is certain, those who believe in Kjata will never turn their backs on her. Captured people and soldiers will be hostile, crazy and mad and believe Kjata will punish them for the suffering they have been inflicted.

So far, Kjata has remained quiet and picked up the pieces after WWIII. Though the nations now are rebuilding and gaining much needed land means war.

Current Kjata KNOWN vehicles:

'Technical' type vehicles with twin 50 mm guns attached on the backs of pick ups and vans. Pickup trucks are popular and are known to carry up to 10 people inside one truck. A soldier moving transport vehicle. Armor varies, but can be upto 8 inches thick of solid steel. The front often carries armor up to 15 inches with a 'cattle pusher'. Nearly impervious to machine gun fire.

'Doom Bug' vehicles; sports cars and fast cars armored with steel plating and twin-RPG launchers and a small 10 inch cannon. These speedy cars are sort of an MBT of the Kjata military if you can call these it. Seats only 2 people, but the second person is often in control of a deadly 6000 round per minute gattling gun. Capable of destroying nearly every target and speeding away. Very weak against shelling. Two or three hits can destroy these armored vehicles from an Abrams tank. Heavy armored tanks are strong against these speedy vehicles.

'Chaos Convoys' trucks, heavily armored 18-wheelers. Outfitted with 8-inch armor plating and loaded with 4, 6000 rounds per minute gattling guns. A forward 'spike' to smash cars and trucks and even people out of the way. The trailer is said to be cut in half and used to carry troops. A second deck (flipped upside down top of the trailer), is used as a Cannonry platform to lob shells from RPGs and anti-tank and anti-air missiles at targets. Up to 8 50mm machine guns are placed on all sides of the trailer. A deadly vehicle of nearly unmatched power. Capable of destroying 3-4 Abrams tanks due to its high speed for a heavily armored vehicle and decieving appearence.

'Terminator' tanks, these are only rumored tanks. These are supposively modifed Abrams tanks. Each tank has 20-inches of armor plating. 4 hydrogen powered engines. The entire outside of the armor plating is weapons. A main gun that is 20-inches is the main attack weapon. Capable of pushing through nearly any armor or taking out a building. 5 inter-connected 50 mm automatic machine guns. Twin 6000 round per minute gattling guns. One point defense laser, capable of destroying incoming missiles or burning people, hedgehogs or small barriers. Crew of 5 people. These tanks are the most powerful modified tank known to Kjata, very few tanks exist however. Around 2500 suspected. They have no fuel problems, but a small convoy travels with the tanks to provide ammo.
Mauiwowee
11-08-2005, 03:40
Military

Percentage in Military: 0.9%
Amount in Military:[/I] 4,932,000
Reverve Forces:[/I] 246,600
Ready for Conscription:[/I] 75,296,480
Military Budget:[/I] 4,932,000,000,000 USD Per Year
Overall Budget:[/I] 24,660,000,000,000 USD Per Year
Budget Per Soldier: 1,500,000 USD Per Year

Sorry, I don't want to be a butt and I sure don't want to create an enemy this early in the game and I hope you'll take this as it is intended, merely a request to modify these numbers. This is a is a classic god mod manipulation of your nation's military strength and budget. By these numbers your military budget is 4 times your total GDP and more than 30 times your defense budget as reported on the 3rd Geek NS Economy site. Please revise these figures to fit the rules in accordance with the following:

Government Category: Father Knows Best State
Government Priority: Law & Order
Economic Rating: Fair
Civil Rights Rating: Some
Political Freedoms: Rare
Income Tax Rate: 100%
Major Industry: Arms Manufacturing
National Animal: Eagle
National Currency: Reich Mark
Total Population: 548,000,000
Government Budget Details Administration: $160,682,202,109.44 11%
Social Welfare: $131,467,256,271.36 9%
Healthcare: $146,074,729,190.40 10%
Education: $160,682,202,109.44 11%
Religion & Spirituality: $43,822,418,757.12 3%
Defence: $116,859,783,352.32 8%
Law & Order: $394,401,768,814.08 27%
Commerce: $0.00 0%
Public Transport: $160,682,202,109.44 11%
The Environment: $146,074,729,190.40 10%
Social Equality: $0.00 0%
Yderia Economic Statistics Exchange Rate: 6.1125 Reich Marks = $1
Gross Domestic Product: $1,481,380,368,065.88
GDP Per Capita: $2,703.25
Unemployment Rate: 12.92%
Consumption: $0.00
Government Budget: $1,623,052,546,560.00
Government Expenditures: $1,460,747,291,904.00
Goverment Waste: $162,305,254,656.00
Exports: $208,873,706,561.88
Imports: $188,240,630,400.00
Trade Surplus: $20,633,076,161.88


Population: 548,000,000
Civil Rights: Some
Economy: Fair
Political Freedoms: Rare
Income Tax Rate: 100%
Exchange Rate: 1 Reich Mark = $0.34
Gross Domestic Product Per Capita: $4,231
Total National Production: $2,318,540,492,791
Private Consumption: $0
Government Budget: $2,576,156,103,102
Administration (11%): $255,039,454,207
Welfare (9%): $208,668,644,351
Healthcare (10%): $231,854,049,279
Education (11%): $255,039,454,207
Religion and Spirituality (3%): $69,556,214,784
Defence (8%): $185,483,239,423
Law and Order (27%): $626,005,933,054
Commerce (0%): $0
Public Transport (11%): $255,039,454,207
Environment (10%): $231,854,049,279
Social Equality (0%): $0
Government Waste (10%): $257,615,610,310

UN Estimates

Economic Grey Sector: 26.91%
Grey Sector Product: $853,690,069,398
Grey Sector Breakdown:
Basic Necessities: 5.26%
Healthcare: 5.11%
Education: 4.96%
Transportation: 4.96%
Luxuries: 6.62%
Recovered Product: $207,446,686,864
Worker Enthusiasm: 64%
Government Efficiency: 90%
Consumer Confidence: 56%
Unemployment: 15.02%
Population Growth Rate: 1.07%
Nation Age: 94 Days
Literacy: 90.75%
National Loyalty (Individual): 30%

General Readout

Nation: Yderia
Population: 548,000,000
Economy: fair
Military percent: 0.7%
Average earnings Per Person: 3,750 USD per Month
Average earnings Per Person: 45,000 USD per Year
This means your GDP is 2,055,000,000,000 USD per month.
Per year this is 24,660,000,000,000 USD
The government gets 2,055,000,000,000 USD per Month
The government gets 24,660,000,000,000 USD per Year
Your military will be roughly 0.7% of the population. So roughly 3,836,000
Your retired will be roughly 35% of the population. So roughly 191,800,000

OOC: NOTE - I assumed compulsory military service


Again, not trying to be an ass, but wanting the rules to be the same for all.
Kjata Major
11-08-2005, 03:54
How's my vehicles look? They are obviously vehicles that have been modified except the tank. More of an urban warfare thing though; Kjata has been at war for over 15 years in an urban setting so our technology rate is low and specialized for heavy hitters and speedy get aways.

Oh ya if no one could tell, the trailer trucks are our SUPPLY CARRIERS! Nearly 90% of all nations never RP their supply lines and they are so prone to attack over a large distance that you either protect them with military forces or give them enough firepower to fend off attackers. That is exactly what they have done, anti-tank, anti-air, anti-personnel weapons. Instead of the typical 1 job one unit thing. Not perfect in all, but more of a threat then a standard convoy. (Yes we will also use tanks with the PDL's to protect them further).

PS. What about the NS military calc?
Helnacht
11-08-2005, 04:02
Jacques Vioget, the ruler of the Greater France, stared out of the window of his mansion. He had forged this empire out of the remains of France and Spain during the chaos following the Third World War. He had slo managed to siexe Belguim and Morroco. Morroco especially allowed him to control traffic into the Mediterrean from the Atlantic.

A former Colonel in the French Army he had led his band of men to great things. Now those men who had followed him into hell had become his closest advisors. He had seen what democracy had done to those countries. Democracy would no longer happen. It could not happen. Niether could communism. He would make sure his people lived on.

Economy and other Stats

Domestic Statistics

Government Category: Iron Fist Consumerists
Government Priority: Law & Order
Economic Rating: Good
Civil Rights Rating: Rare
Political Freedoms: Unheard Of
Income Tax Rate: 27%
Major Industry: Automobile Manufacturing
National Animal: White Wolf
National Currency: the Franc
Total Population: 6,000,000

Government Budget Details

Administration: $3,782,154,090.37 36%
Social Welfare: $0.00 0%
Healthcare: $0.00 0%
Education: $0.00 0%
Religion & Spirituality: $0.00 0%
Defence: $1,470,837,701.81 14%
Law & Order: $5,252,991,792.19 50%
Commerce: $0.00 0%
Public Transport: 0.00 0%
The Environment: $0.00 0%
Social Equality: $0.00 0%

Helnacht Economic Statistics

Exchange Rate: 2.9168 dollars = $1
Gross Domestic Product: $37,988,293,584.37
GDP Per Capita: $6,331.38
Unemployment Rate: 10.47%
Consumption: $27,482,310,000.00
Government Budget: $12,359,980,687.50
Government Expenditures: $10,505,983,584.37
Goverment Waste: $1,853,997,103.13
Exports: $5,051,634,785.16
Imports: $5,051,634,785.16
Trade Surplus: $0.00

Helnacht Economic Statistics

Gross Regional Product: $37,988,293,584.37
GRP Per Capita: $6,331.38
Regional Population: 6,000,000
Regional Average GDP: $37,988,293,584.37
Largest GDP: Helnacht ($38.0 billion)
Smallest GDP: Helnacht ($38.0 billion)
Largest GDP Per Capita: Helnacht ($6,331)
Smallest GDP Per Capita: Helnacht ($6,331)
Largest Trade Surplus: Helnacht ($0.00)
Largest Trade Deficit: Helncht ($0.00)

Miltary and Stuff

Military one isn't working for me. I'll jog it later.
Mauiwowee
11-08-2005, 05:58
How's my vehicles look? They are obviously vehicles that have been modified except the tank. More of an urban warfare thing though; Kjata has been at war for over 15 years in an urban setting so our technology rate is low and specialized for heavy hitters and speedy get aways.

Oh ya if no one could tell, the trailer trucks are our SUPPLY CARRIERS! Nearly 90% of all nations never RP their supply lines and they are so prone to attack over a large distance that you either protect them with military forces or give them enough firepower to fend off attackers. That is exactly what they have done, anti-tank, anti-air, anti-personnel weapons. Instead of the typical 1 job one unit thing. Not perfect in all, but more of a threat then a standard convoy. (Yes we will also use tanks with the PDL's to protect them further).

PS. What about the NS military calc?

OOC: When I read your description of your weapons, I instantly thought of Mad Max - this is a good thing. :D

IC:
King Rox read the report he had requested from General Jack T. Ripper - the man the king trusted the most in his new government. He had been one of the first to support king Rox and there was no way Rox would have garnered the military support he did to put him on the throne if it hadn't been for the General's support. That was why the general was his military chief of staff and head of the new Mauiwoweean royal military forces. Rox turned back to the report:

:::: TOP SECRET ::::
TO: His Highness, Roxicet Soma Narcosis
FROM: General Jack T. Ripper
SUBJECT: Military Readiness & Recommendations
DATE: Today

Your highness, as you requested, I've done a complete audit of military equipment and readiness and prepared this summary. First, the bad news, we have more men in the military than we can realistically outfit with needed gear and weapons. Best estimate is that a max of only 20% of our potential military strength can be fully mustered and ready for combat. The other 80% will be without weapons and/or uniforms and/or supplies and/or transportation, etc. It will depend on the nature of things, but right now, only about 20% of our military is fully equipped to do their job. The rest are having make do with less than is required for 100% combat readiness. That said, this is what we do have in full, 100% combat ready status (note, however, the issue of fuel for all but the aircraft carrier and the subs, which as you know are nuclear powered, is an issue we need to deal with):

1 CVX class Carrier (your old ship the Outback no less) with a full wing of 60 Lockhead Martin F-35's and 2 full crews that are currently on a 6 month rotation schedule (6 months on ship and 6 months on land)

4 Seawolf class nuclear subs - with 2 full crews also on a 6 month rotation schedule

3 Heavy Battleships with 2 crews each on the same 6 month rotation (Note: the battleships are Desiel/Electric and due to the oil issue, useage may become limited or non-existant in the near future)

2 Battle Frigates - crews and issues on operable status are the same as with the battleships

29 Appache class helicopters (again note the fuel issue)
30 Sea Stallion class helicopters
100 Misc. other class workhorse choppers
25 F-16's
12 Harriers
1 B-52
4 Raptor stealth fighters
1 B-1 Stealth Bomber
15 M1-Abhrams tanks
92 Humvees in various configurations
15 Stryker APV's w/ 105 mm guns on 5 and the other 10 with javelin or stinger missile capabilites (note, this is the vehicle we have re-engineered ourselves and re-branded the Ferret)
870 Misc. supply trucks, bucket trucks and other support vehicles
Side arms, rifles, ammo, etc. for about 4.25 million infantry
Approximately 100 various makes of mortar and heavy artillery pieces
All coastal SAM batteries are fully staffed and operational though

Our subs stayed out at sea during the collapse and initial turmoil and that is why we have so many of them as compared to other equipment.

RECCOMENDATIONS:
1) Deal with oil/fuel issues - this must be a top priority
2) Do what is needed to fully outfit the standing military so all branches are at 100% combat ready status
3) Gear up manufacturing and R & D development and begin production of additional weapon systems
4) Seek a trade alliance for materials needed by the military
5) Seek a military alliance with a nation in this area, possibly Kjata
Rodenka
11-08-2005, 06:21
Domestic Statistics
Government Category: Democratic Socialists
Government Priority: Law & Order
Economic Rating: Reasonable
Civil Rights Rating: Some
Political Freedoms: Some
Income Tax Rate: 23%
Major Industry: Trout Farming
National Animal: bear
National Currency: ruble
Total Population: 12,000,000

Government Budget Details
Administration: $1,145,713,016.99 7%
Social Welfare: $1,800,406,169.56 11%
Healthcare: $1,800,406,169.56 11%
Education: $3,600,812,339.12 22%
Religion & Spirituality: $1,473,059,593.28 9%
Defence: $1,800,406,169.56 11%
Law & Order: $4,255,505,491.69 26%
Commerce: $654,693,152.57 4%
Public Transport: $0.00 0%
The Environment: $0.00 0%
Social Equality: $0.00 0%

Rodenka Economic Statistics
Exchange Rate: 4.1190 rubles = $1
Gross Domestic Product: $57,148,068,814.20
GDP Per Capita: $4,762.34
Unemployment Rate: 11.49%
Consumption: $40,780,740,000.00
Government Budget: $17,412,051,930.00
Government Expenditures: $16,367,328,814.20
Goverment Waste: $1,044,723,115.80
Exports: $7,364,441,857.50
Imports: $7,364,441,857.50
Trade Surplus:$0.00

Rodenka Economic Statistics
Gross Regional Product: $57,148,068,814.20
GRP Per Capita: $4,762.34
Regional Population: 12,000,000
Regional Average GDP: $57,148,068,814.20
Largest GDP: Rodenka ($57.1 billion)
Smallest GDP: Rodenka ($57.1 billion)
Largest GDP Per Capita: Rodenka ($4,762)
Smallest GDP Per Capita: Rodenka ($4,762)
Largest Trade Surplus: Rodenka ($0.00)
Largest Trade Deficit: Rodenka ($0.00)


Dang it, I can't get the military calculator to work for me either.
Czechoslovakia-
11-08-2005, 06:22
OOC: I'll post up my economy and military numbers once my population hits 10 million. A brief description of my army.

The Czechoslovakian army was, to say the least, laughable compared to others. Namely, they were modified World War 2 Russian, American and German vehicles and weapons. The technology was pitiful, but the troops were strong and well trained. They knew how to fight wars, with bad equipment or not.
[NS]Parthini
11-08-2005, 06:46
OOC: OK, my NS nation is nothing at all like what my RP nation wants to be. A Libertarian Capitalist Alliance is not going to have 79% taxes and a negative trade deficite (I REALLY need to fix that...) Any suggestions? That and I'm assuming I'm accepted :rolleyes:

IC: The Independent Caribbean Confederation, or ICC was born out of the vacuum that arose as the US fell. The Caribbean's most charismatic and well-known leader was Fidel Castro, an aging Communist from the previous century. He knew how to survive, and saw an opportunity. Some called it senility, some radiation, some a Godsend, but in 2006 Fidel Castro took a 180 degree switch. He fully embraced Capitalism and Classical Liberalism. Suddenly, Cuba now enjoyed the freedom to do anything. However, many were unused to fending for themselves and a recession hit Cuba for several years. Many other Islands fell, especially after the war, when many owners of Beach cottages and tourists no longer existed. Though no city was hit, they were all devistated.

In 2010, a Luxemborg bank, one of the last remaining, began to invest in Cuban Cigars, sugar, and mining. With much of the US's food now coming from Central and South America, trade soared in Cuba and Hispainola. Soon, as Luxemborg cash came in and Latin goods went out, the Caribbean was one of the richest sections in the world. However, in 2012 a nuclear bomb went off in Guantanamo Bay. US involvment was unlikely as it was barely a cohesive entity. So far, no organization has claim responsibility. However, the effects were more far reaching than radiation.

Soon, following the threat of security, the leaders of Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, and several other islands banded together in the Kingston Conference of 2014 to form the basis of the ICC, the Caribbean Defense Federation. This was basically a promise for the various nations to defend each other in the event of an attack. In Cuba, following the ideals of some Capitalists, manditory service was placed, 3 years Marines, 4 years Navy/Airforce. Many other nations followed suit. The Second Kingston Conference in 2015 created the Caribbean Free Trade Agreement.

By 2017 nearly the entire Caribbean had joined in these organizations. In 2018 the Third Kingston Conference several Haitians proposed the idea of a united Caribbean following ideals they could all live by: Unity, Loyalty, and Freedom. The entire conference agreed. Soon, they began to draft a constitution developing a Confederacy with stong bonds but low interference. The Conference then preceded to elect a President. The obvious choice was the founder of the basic ideals, Cuban Fidel Castro. Though many were weary of his past and his age, his health and his enthusiasm were not to be doubted. On January 2, 2019 Fidel Castro Ruiz was proclaimed El Presidente of the newly dubbed Independant Caribbean Confederation. The Navies of each signatory were combined, and the list, which began with only Cuba and Hispainola, grew to Florida, the entirety of the Islands, some independant Venezuelan cities, and even as far away as Bermuda. In October, the final signatory was asked. The Bankers' Union of Luxemborg, which was independant in the groups of alliances forming in Europe, was invited. As the people who helped Cuba rise to power, it would be rude to exclude them. They signed on November 12, 2019, as "special members."
Texarkania
11-08-2005, 07:08
President Santiana Vargas stared at the computer screen for a moment and then sat back and sighed - life was going to be allright for his new nation of Texarkania. Santiana was no fool, he had seen the collapse coming down the pike when know one else had and had taken steps early on, in 2008, to ensure what had come to pass. As a child he had been fascinated by the idea of psycho-history in the Isaac Asimov Foundations novels and had decided early on that he was going to turn that science fiction idea into fact - predicting the future of huge masses of people. In pursuit of that goal he had obtained a Ph.D. Macro-Economics and a Masters in Sociology by 2005 and had pulled a short 2 year stint in the army, serving in Afghanistan before being wounded and sent home a war hero (albeit, one missing one eye). Once home, he had used his war hero status and entered the political arena. His keen intelligence, likeable nature, but conservative values had been a hit with those in Texas and in no time, he found himself rising in the political spotlight. All the time, he had been working on his theory in private. Using the idea, he had seen the economic downturn that was headed to engulf the planet. Using the theory he had determined where the most secure spot on the planet would be and where the best place to begin a rebuilding process would be and he had come up with Texarkania - Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi. In 2009 when the trouble began, he was serving as the mayor of El Paso Texas and he had instantly mobilized the national guard units in the area and set them to secure the border of Texas and Mexico. As the trouble grew worse, through his political network of connections he had managed to convince other mayors and guard units to follow his command and eventually, when the governor was assasinated by the mobs in Austin and the legislature fled in terror, he had swooped in and seized control. By 2010, Texas was fully under his rule and all it took was some negotiations with Louisana's leadership and Mississipi's governor to convince them of the soundness of his idea for rebuilding a nation in north America.
His plan was premised on a few key points - points that sold the plan to others:
1. The U.S. as it had been was no more and was devolving into chaos as was the rest of the world
2. The world political map was changing rapidly
3. The collapse of the U.S. and the E.U. and Russia's splintering and the non-stop strife in the middle east meant a world without a super power, but also a world without what it needs most - energy and trade
4. Texas had the 2nd largest uranium deposits in north America
5. Texas and Louisiana together had the largest reserves and supplies of oil in the former U.S. with the possible exception of hard to access Alaskan reserves. Further, they were already set to tap those reserves and had offshore rigs in the gulf already
6. The Mississippi River - the gateway to the hearland of the U.S. - with Mississippi and Louisiana together, they controlled the mouth of the river at New Orleans and trade up and down the river into the cornbelt and the area of the great lakes.

In short - Texarkania had what was needed to build an economy and fuel it as well as promote trade and transit of goods. The military of the area was in decent shape and Houston control had been generally saved, they had access to 3 satelites for observation and communications. Texarkania was posed to take a leading role in the rebuilding of the planet. New governments were popping up all over the place and it was time to put out the word - Trade! Oil!!! get it here, unless you really feel like getting involved in the middle east again and re-starting the cycle that destroyed you once before That was the message he had broadcast throughout the world in all mediums possible that he could access and that he had sent to [NS]Parthini directly via secure transmissions, With their grip on Venezuala's oil, we're set to do big things in the new age of man thought President Vargas.

Turning back to his computer he plugged in the data and got the readouts he wanted to see that assessed his new nation's economy - yes, all was going to be good. He picked up the phone and buzzed his secretary - "get the minister of transportation and energy here, I need to discuss plans for the high speed rail project with them."

"right away President Vargas" replied his secretary, Janice Damn she's efficient thought the President as he hung up the phone and reviewed the information on his computer screen.

Texarkania's Economy
Government Category: Capitalist Paradise
Government Priority: Law & Order
Economic Rating: Powerhouse
Civil Rights Rating: Below Average
Political Freedoms: Excellent
Income Tax Rate: 89%
Major Industry: Gambling
National Animal: possum
National Currency: Catholic School Girl
Total Population: 2,027,000,000
Government Budget Details Administration: $428,016,750,635.25 1%
Social Welfare: $1,712,067,002,541.00 4%
Healthcare: $2,568,100,503,811.50 6%
Education: $11,128,435,516,516.50 26%
Religion & Spirituality: $0.00 0%
Defence: $10,272,402,015,246.00 24%
Law & Order: $12,412,485,768,422.25 29%
Commerce: $1,712,067,002,541.00 4%
Public Transport: $2,568,100,503,811.50 6%
The Environment: $0.00 0%
Social Equality: $0.00 0%
Texarkania Economic Statistics Exchange Rate: 1 Catholic School Girl = $1.2060
Gross Domestic Product: $47,643,384,441,734.21
GDP Per Capita: $23,504.38
Unemployment Rate: 3.35%
Consumption: $4,841,793,550,000.00
Government Budget: $43,675,178,636,250.00
Government Expenditures: $42,801,675,063,525.00
Goverment Waste: $873,503,572,725.00
Exports: $5,896,384,716,021.71
Imports: $5,896,468,887,812.50
Trade Deficit: $84,171,790.79

Texarkania's military:
General Readout
Population: 2,027,000,000
Economy: powerhouse
Military percent: 0.7%
Average earnings Per Person: 28,000 USD per Month
Average earnings Per Person: 336,000 USD per Year
This means your GDP is 56,756,000,000,000 USD per month.
Per year this is 681,072,000,000,000 USD.
The government gets 50,512,840,000,000 USD per Month.
The government gets 606,154,080,000,000 USD per Year.
Your military will be roughly 0.7% of the population. So roughly 14,189,000
Your retired will be roughly 35% of the population. So roughly 709,450,000

OOC: I'll try to post a military equipment list tommorrow.
[NS]Parthini
11-08-2005, 07:43
"El Presidente? Transmission, line 1."

"Si, Juana, gracias," Fidel said as he grabbed her ass. Damn, it was good to be gone with that hag of a wife, he thought.

Castro read the transmission as he puffed on a particularly flavorful cigar. So, this new chico wants to talk oil. Oil is good. Better than coal, at least. Damn pollution. But what he wants of it is a different thing. Perhaps I should ask him!

Fidel typed up a response to this President Vargas.

From: Presidente Castro
To: President Vargas of the new Texarkania

Your pointing out our vast quantities of oil got my attention. However, what you want is a different matter. I think I feel what you are getting at: an alliance to Dominate the Hemisphere, economically. Me gusta mucho. However, I think we should talk more personally. As a man of the 20th Century, I like talk. Perhaps a visit to Habana is in order?

El President Castro

OOC: Do you have AIM?
Helnacht
11-08-2005, 07:58
The Greater France was created out of the ashes fo the old France. During the closing months of the war as the French government collapesed, a Colonel in the French army kept his troops together and organized. He led them south, to Marseilles. as they went he collectd more scattered troops and civilians. He was an island in a sea of chaos.

At Marseilles he declared a new French government, with himself as leader. Desperate for anything to hold onto, the remenants of the army latched on to him and supported him. He worked out from Marseilles, establishing law through force. For the next few years he continued to regain control of France, as well as Belguim, through military and diplomatic means. In 2012. He finally had France, Belguim, and the Channel Islands firmly under his control. He turned his eyes south, to the squabbling states of Spain. In 2013 the resurgent Franch army swept south across the Pyrenees. He allied himself with some of the Spanish states and essentially absorbing them and took others through force. It took three more years of blood, sweat, and toil to secure Spain and Portugal.

In 2017 Greater France staged a coup in Morocco, putting a puppet government in place. Several months later the new leader ceded all power to Greater France.

Finally, in 2019 an expedition landed in the Azores and established a new government.

These days Greater France is quiet, but it is said the Jacqus has been eyeing the rest of North Africa and it is also said his thoughts turn north to the United Kingdom...
Yderia
11-08-2005, 12:42
Sorry, I don't want to be a butt and I sure don't want to create an enemy this early in the game and I hope you'll take this as it is intended, merely a request to modify these numbers. This is a is a classic god mod manipulation of your nation's military strength and budget. By these numbers your military budget is 4 times your total GDP and more than 30 times your defense budget as reported on the 3rd Geek NS Economy site. Please revise these figures to fit the rules in accordance with the following:







Again, not trying to be an ass, but wanting the rules to be the same for all.
Well thanks for pointing it out. I just copied from the calculators directly! Im innocent. So which should i use?? This stuff still confuses the shit outta me!
Frozopia
11-08-2005, 12:46
Conor Frozs today announced his plan to unite South Africa once again with the outside world. Hoping to agree trades of their major resources, this could make them more acceptable in the world.

To all nations:
We of South Africa feel that their could be future trades between South Africa and the rest of the world. South Africa is rich in platinum, gold and of course chromium, far more so than the rest of the world.
We also have Iron, Gems and Uranium. These various luxuries and neccessities could benefit any country immensely, and we hope we can make some trade agreements in the not too distant future.

Secret OOC:
The South African army (Using realistic settings on calculator):

Defence Budget:
$58,358,361,600.00

Size of army:
0.7%, 315,000 soldiers

Budget per man
$185,264.64

Equipment for soldiers Some you might of seen in store fronts, some made up.

100,000 AR-550 "Conscript" Ultralight Modern Assault Rifle
(Conscripts)

80,000 AK-140SA (South African copies of old AK's with modifications for modern world, extended range, larger clips and better armour piercing abilities)

30,000 RPG 19's (Extended range + Armour piercieng ability of old RPG's)

100,000 X-26 assault rifles (Long range assault rifle, shotgun/ Grenade launcher capabilites)

60,000 SA15 Sniper Rifles (Relatively light, high powered scoped rifles)

3000 Mortar

Also equipped with pistols, knifes etc. Little in the way of combat armour except standard body armour.

Armoured Vehicles

8000 SA300 "Super tanks"
30,000 SAHHUM Armoured transports

Anyone got any suggestions?
Texarkania
11-08-2005, 15:07
Parthini']"El Presidente? Transmission, line 1."

"Si, Juana, gracias," Fidel said as he grabbed her ass. Damn, it was good to be gone with that hag of a wife, he thought.

Castro read the transmission as he puffed on a particularly flavorful cigar. So, this new chico wants to talk oil. Oil is good. Better than coal, at least. Damn pollution. But what he wants of it is a different thing. Perhaps I should ask him!

Fidel typed up a response to this President Vargas.



OOC: Do you have AIM?

President Vargas read the reply from President Castro and sent the following:

Estimado Presidente Castro:
sería feliz de venir a La Habana para discutir el petróleo y otros asuntos mutuos entre nosotros. Permita por favor que mí sepa cuando usted querría que para mí llegue.
Sinceramente,
Presidente de Santiana Vargas,
Texarkania

Translation:
Dear President Castro:
I would be happy to come to Havana to discuss oil and other mutual issues between us. Please let me know when you would like for me to arrive.
Sincerely,
Santiana Vargas
President, Texarkania

OOC: I do have AIM, I'll fire it up later tonight - LawyerLynn is my AIM name
Kjata Major
11-08-2005, 18:33
[NS]Parthini I know how you can lower taxes and drop the whole trade crap.

Move to your own region or stop using that stupid NSeconomy calc.

For taxes it is a bit more complex. Everytime the issues come in for the government to do this or that, don't do it. Let 'society' or whatever work out the problems. This will lower your taxes. Income tax is unheard of in Kjata Major and the bonuses are really good.

Lower taxes mean, less grey sector (lost money). A higher currency value, but also a lower fund system over all. It APPEARS to enhance population growth to, but I have no evidence to back that up.
Yderia
11-08-2005, 19:46
OOC: What years was WW3 raging, and when did it end, just for referance? If its ok and not decided yet, how about 2014-2018, sorta in parallel with the first? Is that ok?
Yderia
11-08-2005, 20:10
The Confederacy of Yderia was born on the fourth of January, 2018. After the Third World War, the five nations of Scandinavia and surrounding districts decided to create an Empire that, due to its non-involvement in the war, become stronger than the rest. With a Central Ruling Council based in New Belfast, in the same place as Stockholm was before its destruction (the Russians blew it up instead of Berlin with a faulty, Russian-made warhead). The Council rules supreme. It is comprised of eleven (11) members, two (2) from each nation included (Ireland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Estonia), and a Supreme Chancellor, and Irishman by the name of Martin O'Reilly. The Confederation's main principles are the following:

1) Diplomacy towards nations in order to gain new nations within the Confederation.
2) Should diplomacy fail, use force.
3) To give/enforce unity and prosperity upon the world, through the power of The Council.

The Confederation of Yderia's military is quite large, mainly old UN Peacekeeping forces, with American, British, Russian and Germany weaponry, vehicles, and several orbal weapons platforms hijacked from the Americans after WW3. The people have a Utopian way of life, having everything provided for them by the state. However, this means that all politcal power has been revoked. All power lies now solely with the Council, and the Supreme Chancellor. At least 90% of the Council must agree to have any of the Supreme Chancellor's decisions revoked. No one ever disagrees with him twice...
Warta Endor
11-08-2005, 20:35
Domestic Statistics
Government Category: Father Knows Best State
Government Priority: Law & Order
Economic Rating: Frightening
Civil Rights Rating: Some
Political Freedoms: Outlawed
Income Tax Rate: 100%
Major Industry: Arms Manufacturing
National Animal: Dragon
National Currency: Marx
Total Population: 1,927,000,000
Government Budget Details
Administration: $2,341,015,691,011.20
Social Welfare: $2,341,015,691,011.20
Healthcare: $1,950,846,409,176.00
Education: $4,682,031,382,022.40
Religion & Spirituality: $0.00
Defence: $9,754,232,045,880.00
Law & Order: $12,095,247,736,891.20
Commerce: $1,950,846,409,176.00
Public Transport: $3,511,523,536,516.80
The Environment: $780,338,563,670.40
Social Equality: $0.00
Warta Endor Economic Statistics Exchange Rate: 1 Marx = $1.3512
Gross Domestic Product: $40,610,991,315,185.19
GDP Per Capita: $21,074.72
Unemployment Rate: 3.91%
Consumption: $0.00
Government Budget: $48,771,160,229,400.00
Government Expenditures: $39,016,928,183,520.00
Goverment Waste: $9,754,232,045,880.00
Exports: $6,375,549,428,665.18
Imports: $4,781,486,297,000.00
Trade Surplus: $1,594,063,131,665.18

Military personel is roughly 13489000 men/women. But I doubt all of them will be active. More info coming later.
Kjata Major
11-08-2005, 21:17
Kjata Military Budget

Defence Budget includes Gov. Excess:
$101,402,702,312

Size of army:
1.4%, 1,302,000

Budget per man
$77,882.26

Equipment for soldiers

Standard Uniform - $50
Formal Uniform - $450
Food/Drink Cost - $5,000 (yearly per soldier)
Weapons $500-$25000
Medicine - $3000
Laser targeting equipment - $10,000
Body Armor - $500
Drugs - $1000

Armoured Vehicles

Technical Trucks - $13000-$15000
Doom Buggy - $15000-$20000
Chaos Convoy - $100,000
Terminator Tanks - $6,500,700

Notice the curve on the vehicles. The trucks and cars are very very cheap, but the tanks are extremely expensive. 433 Doom Buggy cars to 1 Terminator Tank. Since these are all heavily armored one is more likely to see a small army of Doom Buggy cars attack convoys and troop movements or even tank groups then actually see a Terminator Tank! Technical trucks also, but they are too light to actually pose a real threat, but they can move troops around at over 80 mph on highways. Chaos Convoys, you will rarely see these unless you attack the supply lines, then these crazy trucks will make you wish you didn't cause of their excess firepower and rounds to spare!

'Share the bullets!' Chaos Convoy call.
'Beep beep! You're dead!' Doom Buggy call.
'Like the wind!' Technical call.
'Terminating!' Terminator tank call.

OOC: Fans of C&C will get the call jokes, they have witty remarks related to the unit when you highlight or click on them. Like the Terrorist "I will die for our cause!" Overlord Tank "Overlord tank, overloading" "I am going" Paladin Tank "Paladin Tank in the field" "We fight for peace!" etc...

The rest is secret.
Kjata Major
11-08-2005, 22:51
Revitalizing Kjata Major

This is a news report of Kjata Major's new project to get the country back under the control of the people and the government following the aftermath of WWIII. Kjata's past decade of war has made soldiers and its people used to harsh conditions. Infact the military is already 1.4% of the population percentage. Over a million people are currently in the military.

The ruins of the old cities are being torn down and being rebuilt. A spirit of revival unlike anything seen before is within the nation. A period of destruction followed by the spirit of rebuilding. Cranes as far as the eye can see, towering into the heavens. These high-rise buildings of Tokyo will be part of a stronger and better tomorrow for the civilians of Kjata Major.

No taxes have prompted millions to come to the nation, seeking cheap land and prosperity. Though the government collects little, it also provides little to the people. The military weapons still parade the streets, the old cars and trucks have been modified into a new breed of fighting machines.

Factories have popped up all along the coastline. Producing cars and weapons, tools and tanks. The mixed production of war materials and civilian tools has prompted for a powerhouse of an economy. The average person makes over $30,000 a year! This means increased buying power and large amounts of possessions.

Another look at the military however shows a out-of-date wreck. Civilian vehicles turned into weapons. Though this is all planning to change as thirty new naval yards are beginning to pop up. Some producing fast jet skis, others large frigates, and some producing battleships and aircraft carriers. The fishing industry however has remained strong, as WWIII naval warfare was not important and fishing ships presented no threat to enemy warships.

The time has come for Kjata to rise from the ashes like the Phoenix and begin again, with renewed hope and dreams.
Mauiwowee
12-08-2005, 01:11
OOC: What years was WW3 raging, and when did it end, just for referance? If its ok and not decided yet, how about 2014-2018, sorta in parallel with the first? Is that ok?

OOC: OK all, I've put the following together - let me know what may need correction and any dates I need to insert for your new governments. I'd like to build a history from 2008 until 2018 or so.

A Brief History of Earth X

2008:
November - timed to coincide with U.S. elections, In attacks more co-ordinated than thought possible, Islamic fundamentalists detonate nuclear bombs in Washington D.C. & New York City and Dirty bombs in Paris, London and Berlin. The West is plunged into chaos and financial ruin. Newly Elected President Hillary Clinton in killed, V.P. John McCain becomes president. U.S. Capital relocates to Philadelphia.
December: Tempers flare in the middle east over the attacks - Sunni Muslims in Iraq declare independence from the Shi'ite controlled government, civil war breaks out and Iran joins on the side of the Shi'ites. Kurdish unrest leads to skirmishes in the north and an uprising in Turkey.

2009:
January - Worldwide economic depression sets in fully - Hong Kong stock exchange collapses. President McCain declares Marshall law in the U.S.
March Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, Nevada, Kansas, Illinois, Missouri and Tennessee announce they are seceding from the U.S. and no longer recognize the U.S. government as a true government. - Anarchy and small scale warfare occurs throughout the U.S. Coumbian communists overthrow their government and attempt an invasion of Venezuala which is crushed, but not before a bio-weapon is detonated in Carracas and kills millions in South America as the disease spreads over the next 6 years.
July Brazil and Argentina's governments collapse due to economic pressures and anarchy takes hold. Egypt, Jordan and Syria invade Israel.
August The conflict in the middle east expands to asia and India and Pakistan formally declare war with each other - several nukes are used and millions die before they collapse into anarchy.
October Breakaway Moslem states in the former soviet union nuke Moscow - Russian government collapses as a result of this attack and the worldwide depression.
December E.U. formally disbands and tells member nations "you're on your own."

2010
January Australian government collapses, Food riots and starvation run rampant in China.
March Texas secures it's independence from the former U.S. and the nation of Texarkania is born - the rest of the U.S. remains in chaos.
April Unification efforts led by Castro and Cuba in the Carribbean begin to show signs of paying off as treaties are entered into.
August Japan's economic woes lead to an unemployment rate of over 45% - economy collapses. China moves to take over Korean Pennisula, North Korea Nukes Bejing and Shainghai.
December Africa errupts into all out civil war as governments collapse and tribal war lords seize control.

2011:
January Canada's government falls and civil war errupts there as the French in Quebec declare independence.
April Total world war errupts with just about everyone fighting for their own survival and resources - no more nukes or bio weapons are used however. The last of the old world governments fall as new nations begin to arise.
August Louisiana joins Texarkania as a state.

2012
JanuaryWar rages around the planet, but small government entitites are beginning to form as the old ones collapse.
April Kjata takes control in Japan
September King Rox seizes control over the capital territory of Australia
November New South Wales and Victoria join the kingdom of Mauiwowee.
December Mississippi joins Texarkania as a state

2013
February Helnacht secures control over France
August local economies begin to stabilize - world wide economy is still in shambles - international trade is non-existent.

2015
May Cezch Republic and Slovakia unify to make Czechoslovakia
Czechoslovakia-
12-08-2005, 03:18
OOC: I believe for me, in 2015, the Cezch Republic and Slovakia unify to make Czechoslovakia.

Also, I am now appointing Kjata Major as assistant to this Earth, as he is dedicated, intelligent, and ready to keep this thing together for as long as he can. Congrats.

IC:

The Priemer of Cezchoslovakia has announced that his nation would like to ally with both Helnacht and Rodenka. He goes further, and proposes making this a three way alliance, which will be called the "Neo-European Union". Name changes are allowed by the parties involved, and the priemer awaits Helnacht's and Rodenka's responses.
Mauiwowee
12-08-2005, 03:36
::: Encrypted Telegram :::

TO: Kjata Major
FROM: Mauiwowee
RE: Possible Alliance
DATE: Today

Dear Sirs:
From all Accounts you have managed to stabalize Japan, Malaysia and the Phillipines and we congratulate you on the succes of that undertaking. As you may or may not know, I have managed to unify and stablize Eastern Australia. You and I are posed to dominate and rebuild the Pacific rim and Asia and I would like to discuss the possibility of an alliance with you. We have much to offer in trade, but are in need of things as you must be. For example, we can offer Coal, Iron Ore, Steel, gold and Uranium however, we need oil. We have some significant reserves (approx. 3 Billion barrels known) but we cannot get at all of it at this time due to continued chaos in Western Australia. You have reserves in Malaysia though. We feel a mutually beneficial arrangement could be worked out between our nations that enables us to rebuild this area of the world together. If you are interested, we'd ask that you please contact us. We would be happy to host a summit here in Sydney if you are interested.

Sincerely,
His Royal Highness,
King Rox Narcosis
Mauiwowee
Mauiwowee
12-08-2005, 03:38
OOC: I believe for me, in 2015, the Cezch Republic and Slovakia unify to make Czechoslovakia.

OOC: Added - so I take it my "history" is ok with "God" :)
Helnacht
12-08-2005, 03:39
Message from Jacques Viogot, Ruler of Helnacht
Great minds think alike, my friend. I was thinking along the very same lines. We are the three most powerful countries to emerge from the ashes of Old Europe. Together we can become an economic and military power unrivaled throughout the world. We can get our economies back in gear and promote trade. I will galdly enter into this alliance.

Helnacht Military

Military service is compulsory. Approximately 3% of the poulation is in military. Note: Due to fall-out from the nuclear weapon ddetonated in Paris and the fighitng around the globe the populations of all four former countries in the Empire are still recovering. (OOC: It's a new country, so my pop is low. -_-)

Defense Budget: $1,470,837,701.81

Size of Army: 210,000

Main Battle Tank: Leclerc

Fighter Aircraft: Eurofighter Typhoon

OOC: More later.
Rodenka
12-08-2005, 03:55
Reply to the Leader of Czecholslovakia-
Such an alliance is an excellent idea. The parliament of Rodenka has already voted overwhelmingly in favor of the measure. Though, I suggest we call it the "Greater European Co-Prosperity Sphere"

yours,
Iosef Vladislov

Rodenkan Military
Military service in Rodenka is also compulsory. 3% of the population serves in the military. The majority of the military is in the Air Force and Navy. The navy especially. The pride and joy of the Rodenkan Navy is the RNS Enterprise, formerly of the United States Navy. The ship was impounded in 2013 when it arrived in Italy to take on supplies after a short and bloody firfight with the ship's Marine contingent. The carrier now forms the nucleus of a large carrier group that patrols the Med, while a smaller, native built carrier, the Roma forms the center of a smaller carrier group. The airforce is comprised mainly of Eurofighters, F/A-18s and other older craft that have been bought, begged, and stolen since Rodenka came into existence.

Defense Budget: $1,800,406,169.56

Number in Military: 350,000
Texarkania
12-08-2005, 05:27
President Vargas looked at the map and the summary of Military and significant economic assets and was pleased and dismayed at the same time. Dismayed because he had shit for a navy, 3 battleships in Galveston and 4 mini-subs, designed for repair work on the offshore rigs, in New Orleans and Port Arthur. That was it and that was not good. On the other hand, he had been able to move quickly enough that he had in all likelihood the most powerful, organized airforce on the planet at this time. He had managed to secure San Antonio and Witchita Falls and their air wings early on and had grabbed a few from other points in Texas and Louisiana. He had 65 F-16's and 40 F-18 Tomcats as well as 22 Raptor Stealth fighters, 4 B1 Stealth bombers and 5 B-52 Stratofortresses under his control - better yet, he had the fuel to fly them. He had a large infantry contingent, but transportation was limited to 2,000 trucks and humvees and private vehicles. He had only 33 operational Bradleys and 2 tanks. On the other hand, he had plenty of tanker trucks, 8 operational refineries and best of all (thank you governor Long in Louisiana, 6 (count them, 6) oil tanker ships of the Exxon Valdez class, stationed in New Orleans.

Looking back at the map, and the black lines that indicated the plans for his high speed rail project he was pleased. None of the former U.S. namby-pamby "slow down in town" laws were of concern to him. He had trains that could travel at 200+ mph whereever track was laid. Towns who didn't like it had been told "tough shit" and been ordered to clear the way for the transportation system that was being built. So far the tracks that had been laid and the trains in service only ran from Dallas up through Witicha Falls to Amarillo and from Dallas down to Houston and over to New Orleans, but the rest was being built at a record pace. He did need to engage in some trade for steel though, "hmm, perhaps Mauiwowee would be interested, they want oil, I'll have to check that out" he thought to himself. He looked back at the summary one more time, "Damn, only 39 Appache's" he said to himself, "I thought San Antonio had more." Finally, he noticed, he had only 11 heavy artillary pieces. Time to go to work.

Map of Texarkania's planned high speed rail system

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2749/texarkania5dl.jpg
[NS]Parthini
12-08-2005, 07:28
OOC: Dunno if I said this already but I wont be able to post very much this weekend, as I'm at a friend's house. Just pretend I'm doing the usual, and Tex, meet on Monday?
Texarkania
12-08-2005, 07:42
Parthini']OOC: Dunno if I said this already but I wont be able to post very much this weekend, as I'm at a friend's house. Just pretend I'm doing the usual, and Tex, meet on Monday?

OOC: I'll be there, though it might be a little late, like 10:30 or so. Send me a Tg with your AIM so I can look for it.
Warta Endor
12-08-2005, 09:30
ooc. I'll give a brief history of Warta Endor.

After the collapse of Argentina and the rest of South America in 2009, several rebel groups emerge. The three largest groups are the Combined Socialist Partisan Group (CSPG), the Communist-Marxist Brigade (CMB) and the Neo-Fascist Assault Group (NFAG). At the end of 2010 only these group remain, the CSPG holding Northern Chile, Bolivia and Northern Argentina, the CMB holding the Remainder of Chile and Southern Argentina and the NFAG holding Uruguay and the middle part of Argentina. The CSPG and the CMB ally themselves against the NFAG, who untill then had the upper hand due to better equipment and technology. But the Combined Leftist Army are too much and by 2013 is the Combined Leftist Army victorious, with the Fascist leader Jorge Defutio fleeing with a few loyal followers in Peru. Order returns and the economy grows steadily, but early 2014 radical Communists break away from the CMB and open a short lived guerilla. After three months the Communist Leader, Refundo Ozabal, surrenders and is executed. A pretty large group have escaped into Brazil and Peru, continueing their guerilla. The Marxists coöperate with the CSPG and form a provisional government. At the end of 2015 elections are held which result in a major election victory of the CSPG, with the Liberal Democratic party as second and the Marxist party as third party in the parliament. The Capital of the newly declared Social-Democratic Republic of Warta Endor moves from Santiago to Buenos Aires. On the first of may, 2016 , the official start of the republic is celebrated with a parade of all the veterans of the Civil War. The next three and a half years are full of recovery and economic development. By the beginning of 2020, Warta Endor is strong, pretty prosperous and stable nation.
Warta Endor
12-08-2005, 13:02
Armed Forces of the Social-Democratic Republic of Warta Endor

The armed forces are divided in five seperate branches: the Army, the Navy, the Marines, the Airforce and the Special Forces. The Coast Guard is part of the Navy. The weak part is the navy, for the CSPG High Command gave priority to land guerilla. Later on rebuilding the country and air/ground defence were again judged more important than the navy. The Marines are almost at the same level as the Revolutionary Guard. The exact details of the Special Forces are unknown. Their training is said to be at a high level and they regulary execute missions in Brazil and Peru to exterminate the last bastions of the NFAG and the Communists.

Republican Army

Revolutionairy Guard
50000 men
200 Leopard 2A6
45 Crusader
Regular Forces
250000 men/women
450 Merkava IV
800 Merkava III
200 155mm
35 Crusader
Logistics 1:6
1,8 million men/women

Republican Airforce

Revolutionairy Airguard
200 men/women-100 Mig29M2

Regular Airforce
130 men/women-65 Mig29M2
135 men/women-135 Mig29M
75 men/women-75 Mig25 Foxbat
200 men/women-200 SU37 "superflanker"
175 men/women-35 C130H

Various Airdefence Systems
5000 men/women

Logistics 1:10
59150 men/women

Republican Navy

1st. Fleet-Buenos Aires
1 Aircraft Carrier Charles deGaulle Class w/full airwing
2 Battleships Frunze Class
2 Battlecruisers Admiral Clas
8 Destroyers Arleigh Burke Class
5 Frigates Oliver Hazard Perry Class

2nd. Fleet-Punta Arenas
1 Aircraft Carrier Invincible Class w/full airwing
1 BB Frunze
2 BC Admiral
5 Destroyers AB
2 Frigates OHP

3rd Fleet-Antonvegasta
1 CNV Invincible Class w/fullairwing
1 BB Frunze
2 BC Admiral
10 Destroyers AB
5 Frigates OHP

3rd. Submarine Fleet-classified
12 Seawolf Class SSN
3 LA Class SSBN
35 Cransonn Class SS

Logistics 1:7
49000 men/women

Republican Marine Corps

1st Division-Buenos Aires
25000 men
35 155mm
250 Bradly Fighting Vehicles
2nd Division-Montevideo
25000 men
25 155mm
250 BFV
3rd Division-Punto Arenas
15000 men
35 155mm
150 BFV
4th Division-Santiago
35000 men
45 155mm
350 BFV

Logistics 1:10
1 million

Republican Special Forces
5000 men (???)

Logistics 1:15
75000 men (???)
Kjata Major
12-08-2005, 14:47
Slowly, but surely new information around the 'Terminator' Tank has been released.

Actual Specs:

Manufacturer: Kjata Tank Production and Kjata A3 Facility
Crew 4: Commander, Gunner, Loader & Driver

Weight: 90 Tons
Length (Gun Forward): 387 inches
Turret Height: 130.5 inches
Width: 184 inches
Ground Clearance: 22.5 inches
Ground Pressure: 20.5 PSI
Obstacle Crossing: 65 inches
Vertical Trench: 9 Feet
Power plant: 4 Hydrogen Engines
Power Rating: 4500 HP
Power to Weight Ratio: 50 hp/ton
Hydro Kinetic Transmission 4 Speed Forward
2 Speed Reverse

Speed - Maximum 50+ mph (estimated)
Speed - Cross Country 30 mph (estimated)
Speed - 10% Slope 25 mph (estimated)
Speed - 60% Slope 6.3 mph (estimated)
Acceleration
(0 to 20 mph) 4 Seconds
(0 to 30 mph) 5.5 Seconds
(0 to 40 mph) 10 seconds.
Fuel Capacity: 30 Class-A fuel cells
Cruising Range 600 miles
Fuel Consumption A tank will need approximately one fuel cell every eight hours; this will vary depending on mission, terrain, and weather. A single tank takes 5 minutes to refuel. Refueling and rearming of a tank platoon--four tanks--is approximately 30 minutes under ideal conditions.

A mine plow will increase the fuel consummation rate of a tank by 45%.
Yderia
12-08-2005, 17:58
To: The Leaders of Czecholslovakia.
From: The Yderian Central Ruling Council.
CC: The Leaders of Helnacht, Rodenka and Lachenburg

Sir/Madam,
The great Confederation of Yderia wishes to prepose an alliance in order to protect all of our great empires. We are also open to join any other current alliances in order to keep our empire stable. With kindest regards,

Martin O'Reily,
Supreme Chancellor of the Confederation of Yderia,
New Belfast.
Frozopia
12-08-2005, 18:07
OOC: When can I seize the nations above me? Im south Africa. I want the continent.
Mauiwowee
12-08-2005, 18:25
OOC: When can I seize the nations above me? Im south Africa. I want the continent.

Another week or so while we wait for new players to make their claims.
Rodenka
12-08-2005, 18:29
OOC: Revised military and economy for Rodenka

Percentage in military:0.7%

Amount in Military:106,400

Reserve Military:5,600

Total Budget: $38,080,000,000 per Year

Military Budget: $11,424,000,000 per Year

Budget per soldier: $102,000

Domestic Statistics
Government Category: Capitalist Paradise
Government Priority: Law & Order
Economic Rating: Very Strong
Civil Rights Rating: Some
Political Freedoms: Some
Income Tax Rate: 14%
Major Industry: Trout Farming
National Animal: bear
National Currency: ruble
Total Population: 16,000,000

Government Budget Details
Administration: $3,144,269,216.88 6%
Social Welfare: $5,764,493,564.28 11%
Healthcare: $5,764,493,564.28 11%
Education: $11,004,942,259.08 21%
Religion & Spirituality: $4,716,403,825.32 9%
Defence: $5,764,493,564.28 11%
Law & Order: $13,625,166,606.48 26%
Commerce: $3,144,269,216.88 6%
Public Transport: $0.00 0%
The Environment: $0.00 0%
Social Equality: $0.00 0%

Rodenka Economic Statistics
Exchange Rate: 1.3221 rubles = $1
Gross Domestic Product: $246,523,686,948.00
GDP Per Capita: $15,407.73
Unemployment Rate: 5.79%
Consumption: $194,119,200,000.00
Government Budget: $55,749,454,200.00
Government Expenditures: $52,404,486,948.00
Goverment Waste: $3,344,967,252.00
Exports: $31,126,728,150.00
Imports: $31,126,728,150.00
Trade Surplus: $0.00

Rodenka Economic Statistics
Gross Regional Product: $246,523,686,948.00
GRP Per Capita: $15,407.73
Regional Population: 16,000,000
Regional Average GDP: $246,523,686,948.00
Largest GDP: Rodenka ($247 billion)
Smallest GDP: Rodenka ($247 billion)
Largest GDP Per Capita: Rodenka ($15,408)
Smallest GDP Per Capita: Rodenka ($15,408)
Largest Trade Surplus: Rodenka ($0.00)
Largest Trade Deficit: Rodenka ($0.00


IC:

To:Martin O'Rielly
From: Iosef Vladislov
CC: Leaders of Czechoslovakia and Helnacht
I would be most happy to accep you into the Co-Prosperity Sphere.

Iosef Vladislov
Kjata Major
12-08-2005, 21:07
An Embarrassing Accident on Global Television!

A cute news girl is reporting from outside a military base, blonde and with nice long hair she was perfect!. 36, 28, 32! Well....that's what she advertises anyways.

"Hello everyone, if you look behind me, you'll see an old Kjata Major military tank base. What is the problem you ask? A 'Terminator' tank has been stolen by a rogue terrorist group."

A picture of a massive 90 ton monster tank is shown, its heavy-plated armor and massive gun turret is displayed.

"This is the stolen tank. One of the most powerful tanks in existance. Based of the American M1 Abrams, this tank has three times more horsepower, over double the standard armor plating, and it runs on hydrogen fuel cells!"

In the background the tank revs up and smashes into the chain link fence, cheers and whooping sounds come from inside.

"They've returned! The Kjata forces are in close pursuit! It appears as if this tank will be destroyed or rendered immobile to end this three hour pursuit, in which it has returned to the base. "

The tank turns its turret and fires, destroying a guard tower on the other side of the base, clearly over a mile away. A swarm of armored cars, the Doom Buggy cars, surround the tank.

"Come out with your hands up or we will fire!" yelled a man on a loudspeaker.

The tank stopped targetting another building and turned the turret towards the two or three dozen cars, all of which are heavily armed.

"FIRE!" screamed the man. All of a sudden a blaze of bullets and RPG rounds slammed into the tank. In an attempt to fire an explosive round the 7.68 gattling gun rounds destroyed the shell prematurely, blasting the main gun to pieces.

Under the hail of rounds and RPG fire the tank was barely being damaged. It's armor was incredibly thick. As a desperate measure the tank charged the cars, but their agility was too much for the tank, and they drove around in a semi-circle blasting the entire time at it.

Under the barrage of bullets the newsgirl continues her report, "This type of tank is nearly impervious to every type of fire in the world, even its treads are completely covered in armor with a simple push of a button! The military is having a hard time of breaking through it's thick shell."

From out of no where a barrage of 6 shots lands on the tank from somewhere in the west. A small explosion follows and the front of the tank is dented and scorched now. It was back-up! The slower Terminator Tanks of the military had just arrived.

"It appears as if this battle is almost at an end, the military has closed in, the Doom Buggy cars are speeding away....wait a second, that means....AIR ATTACK!" she screamed and ran with her cameraman to a ditch off the side of the road.

A second later the roar of two jets, like MiG's flew overhead, then the tank exploded in a ball of fire. A direct hit destroyed the front of the tank and shut it down. The wreckage of the tank was gruesome, but the terrorists, men wrapped in cloth, came out and rose their hands up.

"Ok...we surrender...no more, please!" said one of them.

The newsgirl, now covered in dirt, reported, "Well in an unexpected turn of events the tank was destroyed, but the crew survived only because of how thick the armor plating was. It was a long three hour struggle, but now it is over!"
-------------

OOC: This is a combat tank that was stolen by a rogue terrorist group that lays in Northern Kjata. This has been by far the worse attack yet, but even worse is that the world now knows the true power of a Terminator Tank.
Yderia
12-08-2005, 22:14
To:Iosef Vladislov
From: Martin O'Reilly
CC: Leaders of Czechoslovakia and Helnacht

The Confederation of Yderia is extremely pleased and honoured by your most generous offer. We join the Co-Prosperity Sphere freely without terms or conditions. May all our nations thrive together.

Martin O'Reilly,
Supreme Chancellor of Yderia,
New Belfast.

United We Stand, Divided We Fall
Yderia
12-08-2005, 22:23
OOC: Apologies in advance for the long post, but I thought I'd better outline the weapons and technologies confiscated from the US Military after WW3. By the way these are technologies either already in use by the US Military or due to be in place by the time our RP starts (RL 2020). Any problems, ask me.

Hypersonic Attack Aircraft A high-speed strike vehicle capable of projecting lethal force anywhere in the world in less than four hours. Operating at Mach 12 and a cruise altitude of 100,000 ft, this vehicle is a reusable two-stage system comprised of an unmanned boost vehicle and a manned hypersonic strike aircraft. The gas turbine-engined boost vehicle requires a conventional runway and accelerates the strike vehicle to Mach 3.5 and 65,000 ft. The strike vehicle then separates and uses a ramjet/scramjet engine to reach its cruise condition. The total system range is 10,000 nautical miles (NM); the hypersonic strike vehicle has an unrefueled range of 5,000 NM. It is capable of launching precision-guided munitions, including the hypersonic air-to-ground missile described in system 5.4, at a standoff distance of 1,450 NM. Alternatively, the platform may be used to transport an uninhabited unmanned air vehicle described in system 4.2.

FotoFighter A highly maneuverable, stealthy, inhabited advanced fighter aircraft whose skin is fitted with an array of diode lasers and sensors. Efficient electronic control of the laser arrays allows this fighter to engage multiple targets simultaneously with varying degrees of lethality. At low powers, the arrays can function as transmitters and receivers for low probability of interception (LPI) communications. Threat detection, target illumination, and tracking are also possible.

Container Aircraft An aircraft consisting of an airlifter in which standard shipping containers form integral structures of the fuselage. The aircraft consists of three baseline sections: the cockpit, the wingbox, and the empennage. In its simplest form, the "short" version-the aircraft is capable of flight by joining the cockpit, wingbox, and empennage directly together. With standard shipping containers installed between the cockpit and wingbox and between the wingbox and the empennage, the aircraft can be configured to carry cargo ("stretch" version). The first wave of container aircraft to arrive in a theater of operations "disassembled." The cockpit then forms a command and control facility, the aircraft engines generate the base power, the wings provide fuel storage, and the containers themselves (when empty) provide shelter for troops, supplies, and equipment. This concept provides a mobile base.

Lighter-than-Air Airlifter A very large capacity, rigid-frame lighter-than-air vehicle that provides one million pound airlift capability with a unrefueled range of 1,2500 NM. This vehicle also has the ability to deploy and recover powered UAVs while stationary or in-transit. Vehicle is able to house support materiel, personnel, and MEDVAC modules depending upon mission requirements.

Supersonic Airlifter A Mach 2.4 supersonic airlifter that provides 50,000 pound airlift capability with a unrefueled range of 5,000 NM. This vehicle provides the capability to deliver military personnel (roughly 150), advanced precision weapons, and appropriate resupply anywhere in the world within hours.

Stealth Airlifter (SA) An all-weather, low-observable aircraft capable of low supersonic cruise and dedicated to special operations forces (SOF). With an unrefueled range up to 4,000 NM, it can be used to insert and extract SOF teams, as well as to extract high value assets (HVA) and weapons of mass destruction. The SA connected to a global information management system (say, GIMS System 8.1) for all source intelligence, weather, navigation, and communications.

Global Transport Aircraft (GTA) A global reach transport airplane of less than one million pounds take off gross weight, capable of carrying 150,000-250,000 pounds 12,000 to 10,000 NM respectively. This vehicle also can deploy powered UAVs and parafoils. The GTA house support materiel, personnel, and MEDVAC modules, depending upon mission requirements. This aircraft also be modified for use as a tanker.

Strike UAV A low-observable, uninhabited air vehicle that loiters subsonically over the region of interest for long periods of time (24+ hours) until directed to strike. Its primary mission is to engage ground targets with standoff precision munitions; however, it also has a limited air-to-air capability. It relies on off-board sensors to supply reconnaissance and targeting information as well as command and control, although it has sufficient on-board sensor capability to allow it to perform preprogrammed missions.

Reconnaissance UAV An uninhabited reconnaissance aerial vehicle (URAV) that can be employed either as an independent system or in conjunction with other airborne, ground-based, and spaceborne systems. The URAV is fitted with a variety of multispectral sensors, such as infrared, optical, radar, and laser, and collects images, signals intelligence (SIGINT), electronic intelligence (ELINT), and other information. It loiters subsonically at very high altitudes over the region of interest for extended periods of time without refueling. The URAV also can be used as part of a bistatic configuration, in which it illuminates the region of interest while different sensors receive and process the information.

Uninhabited Combat Air Vehicle (UCAV) A vehicle that can be employed either as an independent system or in conjunction with other airborne, ground-based, and space- based systems. It carries a suite of multispectral sensors (optical, infrared, radar, laser, etc.) supplies information to its suite of standoff precision guided munitions. UCAV loiters at high altitude over the region of interest for long periods of time (24+ hours) until called upon to strike a target. While in its subsonic loiter mode, it can perform a surveillance and reconnaissance mission for the Global Information Management System (System 8.1). It could be used as part of a bistatic configuration in which it illuminates a region of interest while a different sensor receives and processes the information. As a secondary mission, it can perform electronic countermeasures (ECM) and electronic counter-countermeasures (ECCM) roles.

Precision Delivery System A suite of powered and parafoil UAVs capable of autonomous flight for the purpose of all-weather precision (within 1 meter) airdrop. High altitude (40,000 ft) precision airdrops can be achieved using GPS or INS-guided parafoil delivery systems. This technique allows equipment/supplies to be delivered to forward-deployed forces while transport aircraft remain hundreds of miles from the drop zone. Positions can be determined using light detection and ranging (LIDAR) or a GPS instrumented radio drop sound. Powered UAVs and deliver smaller, high value packages from greater standoff ranges.

UAV Mothership A large capacity, long-loiter-time, uninhabited subsonic air vehicle used to deploy and recover smaller combat UAVs. It also can replenish them with weapons and propellant. This air vehicle has the ability to collect, convert and store solar energy, and then transfer energy through physical means or via beaming to other airborne vehicles such as the FotoFighter (System 1.2).

Exfiltration Rocket (ER) A system designed to quickly extract special operations forces (SOF) teams from the mission area. This system would be brought in during the SOF insertion and assembled at the exfiltration launch site. After mission completion, the SOF team members load themselves and any other items, such as a high value asset (HVA) or weapon of mass destruction (WMD), into the ER and then take off. The payload and passengers are recovered via an air-retrievable payload system or through a "soft" landing in a friendly area.

Orbital Maneuvering Vehicle (OMV) An uninhabited orbital propulsion and docking system used to take payloads from an earth-to-orbit lift vehicle and place them in their final orbital plane, or used to fetch and return orbiting payloads to a central repair and recovery location. The system is be capable of carrying line replaceable units (LRU) to a damaged/degraded satellite and accomplishing on-site repair or replacement. It is designed to allow refueling of civil, commercial, and military satellites as well as the rearming of military space weapons platforms.

Orbital Combat Vehicle (OCV) An uninhabited orbital propulsion and docking system used to take payloads from an earth-to-orbit lift vehicle and place them in their final orbital plane, or used to fetch and return orbiting payloads to a central repair and recovery location. The system can also carry line replaceable units to a damaged/ degraded satellite and accomplish on-site repair or replacement. It is designed to allow refueling of civil, commercial, and military satellites as well as the rearming of military space weapons platforms. The OCV is fitted with a medium power high-energy laser system for limited defense and counterspace missions.

Satellite Bodyguards A small constellation of defensive satellites (approximately five) placed in close proximity to the protected asset. "Hunter-killers" actively seek out threats and incapacitate them with directed energy weapons. Detection of threats from the surface or air is done by an off-board sensor suite (say, systems 8.1 or 8.2) and supplied to the "hunter-killer" satellites. Detection of space-based threats is done by the "hunter-killer" satellites themselves. Decoy satellites appear identical (both electromagnetic and visual) to the protected assets to confuse an aggressor; when approached, the decoy can impact and disable the enemy craft.

Piloted SSTO Transatmospheric Vehicle A system that provides space support and global reach from the earth's surface to low-earth orbit (LEO) using a combination of rocket and hypersonic air-breathing technology. The transatmospheric vehicle (TAV) takes off vertically, is refuelable in either air or space, and can land on a conventional runway. It has a variable payload capacity (up to 10,000 pounds) and performs as both a sensor and weapons platform. Alternate missions include satellite deployment and retrieval from LEO and deployment of an anti-ASAT weapon.

Uninhabited Air-Launched Transatmospheric Vehicle A multirole transatmospheric vehicle (TAV). Launched from an airborne platform (such as System 1.1), it is capable of rapid deployment (or retrieval) of satellites providing communication links, intelligence information, and so forth. It carries a suite of multispectral sensors (optical, infrared, radar, laser, etc.) for surveillance and reconnaissance missions. This TAV is a rocket-powered vehicle approximately the size of an F-15, capable of carrying several small satellites (6 ft x 6 ft x 6 ft, 1000 lbs each) to low earth orbit. Further, it could perform an antisatellite (ASAT) role. This TAV can land on a conventional runway.

Adjustable Yield Munition (AYM) An approach to achieve precise matching of the weapon's effect to the target's characteristics. By manipulating the explosive yield of a weapon (i.e., "dial-a-yield"), together can greatly reduce collateral damage. This is particularly advantageous when flexibility and precision are both required: a platform on patrol, awaiting targets of opportunity, can utilize the same weapon for a hard kill with a large yield or for a surgical, mission-only kill with a tailored yield. One approach to controlling the yield is to change the material composition of the explosive at the molecular level.

Advanced Air-to-Air Missile A long range air-to-air missile that receives real-time target information from off-board sensors and utilizes reactive jets and an on-board computer to acquire, pursue and destroy enemy air assets, including cruise missiles. Terminal tracking and guidance may employ a combination of LIDAR, Infrared (IR), radio frequency (RF), magnetic anomaly detection (MAD), Jet engine modulation (JEM), photographic, and acoustic sensors.

Airborne High-Power Microwave Weapon A pulsed power airborne high power microwave (HPM) system. This medium range weapons system constitutes the primary payload of the host escort defense aircraft. The system generates variable magnitude HPM fields that disrupt or destroy electrical components in the target region. It can engage both air and ground targets.

Standoff Hypersonic Missile An hypersonic air-to-ground missile launched from a hypersonic strike vehicle (System 1.1). It utilizes a scramjet to propel itself at Mach 8 toward the intended high-value target, then glides to target at Mach 4; its flight trajectory is altered as needed via off-board control. Its high-speed air-launched range is 1,450 NM.

Attack Microbots A term that describes a class of highly miniaturized (1 millimeter scale) electromechanical systems being deployable en masse and performing individual or collective target attack. Various deployment approaches are possible, including dispersal as an aerosol, transportation by a larger platform, and full flying/crawling autonomy. Attack is accomplished by a variety of robotic effectors, electromagnetic measures, or energetic materials. Some "sensor microbot" capabilities are required for target acquisition and analysis
Airborne Holographic Projector A projector system that displays a three-dimensional visual image in a desired location, removed from the display generator. The projector can be used for psychological operations and strategic perception management. It is also useful for optical deception and cloaking, providing a momentary distraction when engaging an unsophisticated adversary.

Hybrid High-energy Laser System (HHELS) A system consisting of several ground-based, multimegawatt high-energy chemical lasers and a constellation of space-based mirrors. HHELS can be used in several modes of operation. In its weapons mode with the laser at high power, it engages air, space, and ground targets by reflecting a laser beam off one or more of the mirrors to the intended target. It can also be used for target tracking, limited space debris removal (1-10 centimeter objects), and replenishment of satellites.

Global Area Strike System (GLASS) A system incorporating of a high-energy laser (HEL) system, a kinetic energy weapon (KEW) system, and a transatmospheric vehicle (TAV). The HEL system consists of ground-based lasers and space-based mirrors which direct energy to the intended target. The KEW system (System 6.2) consists of terminally guided projectiles, with and without explosive enhancers. The TAV (System 4.1) is a flexible platform capable of supporting maintenance and replenishment of the HEL and KEW space assets, and can also be used for rapid deployment of special operations forces. Target definition and sequencing is managed externally (e. g., using GIMS (System 8.1)).

Space-Based Kinetic Energy Weapon (KEW) A general class of low earth orbit (LEO) based weapons that include a variety of warhead types from flechettes and pellets to large and small high density rods. The KEW may be directed at air, space, and ground targets; it achieves its destructive effect by penetrating the target at hypervelocity. Sensor information is provided to the KEW by a main sensor suite off-board of the vehicle (such as GSRT [System 8.2] or GIMS [System 8.1]). However, each armament has a minimal sensor capability (e. g., GPS receiver) and a simple flight control system for maneuver.

Space-Based High Power Microwave Weapon (HPM) A weapon system capable of engaging ground, air, and space targets with a varying degree of lethality. It consists of a constellation of satellites deployed in low-earth orbit (LEO) (approx. 500 NM) that can direct an ultrawideband (UWB) of microwave energy at ground, air, and space targets. Its effect is to generate high electric fields over a target area tens to hundreds of meters in size, thereby disrupting or destroying any electronic components present.

Space-Based High-energy Laser (HEL) System A multimegawatt high-energy chemical laser constellation that can be used in several modes of operation. In its weapons mode with the laser at high power, it can attack ground, air, and space targets. In its surveillance mode, it can operate using the laser at low power levels for active illumination imaging or with the laser inoperative for passive imaging.

Solar-Powered High-energy Laser System A space-based, multimegawatt, high-energy solar-powered laser constellation that can be used in several modes of operation. In its weapons mode with the laser at high power, it can attack ground, air, and space targets. In its surveillance mode, it can operate using the laser at low power levels for active illumination imaging, or with the laser inoperative for passive imaging.

Solar Energy Optical Weapon (SEOW) A constellation of space-based mirrors which allow solar radiation to be focused on specific ground, air, or space targets. The lethality of this system is limited, due to optical diffusion; however, it may prove useful for disruption or perhaps weather control.

Asteroid Mitigation System A system that protects the Earth/Moon system from Earth- crossing objects (ECOs) by either deflecting or fragmenting ECOs such that they no longer pose a threat. Deflection could be accomplished using nuclear explosive devices.

Spoken Language Translator A hand-held or worn device that translates oral communications in near real-time. It enhances multinational operational effectiveness in all areas, including training, diplomacy, special operations, and conventional ground operations. It is capable of one-for-one word substitution in a wide variety of languages, and it provides two-way communications between the owner and another person. The system has a limited ability to compensate for differences in sentence syntactic structures, cultures, dialects, and idioms/slang, and a limited ability to select words according to context. Careful placement of both microphones and both speakers is required for deconfliction (not having to hear both languages simultaneously), limiting the scope of its operation; the system is best suited for controlled two-way communications such as by telephone, radio, or computer. The system also is useful for written text translation.

Personal Digital Assistant (PDA) An individual's connection to the information systems of 2020. This assistant is a hand-held or wristwatch size unit. Input modes include both touch and voice. The PDA is the warrior's secure, high-capacity connection to the distributed C4I system. The PDA maintains the owner's personal data such as medical and training records. It learns and remembers the owner's preferences and needs so that requests for information are properly tailored. It is self-securing: it recognizes the owner through a number of biometrics which ensures that it cannot be commandeered. In short, the PDA is a single device replaces the cellular telephone, radio, personal computer, identification and banking cards, and any other personal information- management device of the nineties.

Virtual Interaction Center A virtual reality environment in which commanders can immerse themselves in a three-dimensional representation of the battlespace. Information from a global information system, such as GIMS (System 8.1) is displayed in a virtual reality environment, giving the commander situational awareness. The center also has the capability to replay battles and engagements and to simulate "what if" scenarios.

Global Information Management System (GIMS) A pervasive network of intelligent information gathering, processing, analysis, and advisory nodes. It collects, stores, analyzes, fuses, and manages information from ground/air/space sensors and all source intelligence. All types of sensors (i.e., acoustic, optical, radio frequency, olfactory, etc.) are used. However, the true power of this system is its use of neural processing to provide the right type of information based on the user's personal requirements.

Global Surveillance, Reconnaissance, and Targeting System (GSRT) A space-based omnisensorial collection, processing, and dissemination system to provide a real-time information database. This database is used to create a virtual-reality image of the area of interest. This image can be used at all levels of command to provide situational awareness, technical and intelligence information, and two-way command and control.

Sensor Microbots A class of highly miniaturized (millimeter sized) electromechanical air and ground systems capable of being deployed en masse to collect data, perform individual and collective data fusion, and communicate that data for further processing and distribution. Various deployment approaches are possible, including dispersal as an aerosol, transportation by a larger platform, and full flying/crawling autonomy. Data collection is accomplished through miniaturized onboard sensors, typically restricted to one or two sensors per unit due to size and power limitations. Communications are possible by transmission through relay stations ("relaybots") or physical collection of the microbots. Some applications of sensor microbots are security net to guard own assets, surveillance and reconnaissance, and intelligence gathering on adversary assets.

Multiband Laser Sensor System A suite of laser devices that inspects and models target components. Different frequencies of electromagnetic energy vary in their ability to penetrate materials. For a particular material, one frequency will reflect off the surface, another will penetrate. By employing a suite of laser devices over a wide frequency range, planners can accomplish complete internal and external inspection of a structure and develop a full three-dimensional model. This tool can be used for nondestructive inspection of components, target vulnerability analysis, target identification and decoy rejection, and reconnaissance. This suite of laser devices can be carried on an airborne platform, but it clearly has ground-based applications also.

Asteroid Detection System A network of ground and space sensors which search for, track, and characterize space objects that are large enough and in an orbit to threaten the earth-moon system. The system also includes a centralized processing center that fuses data from all of the available sensors, catalogs the known objects, and distributes information to the known authorities.

Mobile Asset Repair Station (MARS) A mobile facility near the battlefront where parts can be repaired or manufactured . In wartime, replacement parts are repaired or manufactured in the theater of operations for a variety of deployed weapon systems through MARS. The mobile facility can be land-based or water-based in the theater of operations, but out of harm's way. The facility features a set of fully-integrated flexible manufacturing systems (FMS) and robotic systems that are linked to the commercial manufacturers. These manufacturers supply the specifications to the FMS which then produces the part or component. Many of the required materials necessary for MARS to manufacture the components obtained from local countries.

Weather Analysis and Modification System A diverse set of weather prediction and modification tools that allows manipulation of small-to-medium-scale weather phenomena to enhance friendly-force capabilities and degrade those of the adversary. Many of the sensors required for this system are assumed to be external e. g., part of the global information management system (GIMS), discussed in System 8.1.

Sanctuary Base A secure, low observable, all-weather forward-operating base that reduces the number of assets requiring protection from attack. The runway, power systems, ordnance storage, aircraft maintenance assets, and C4I systems are self-maintaining and self-repairing. Base security is highly automated. Chemical/ biological hazards are cleaned up by nanobots and biotechnology. Robots perform refueling, weapons loading, maintenance, security, and explosive ordnance destruction.
Kjata Major
12-08-2005, 23:28
Umm....wow...

Since this is WWIII and as we all predict it will be a hostile nuclear war, that will be very damaging. The ability of your US forces are way past MT and anything that can be made by 2020 without lots of funding and a budget bigger then the entire UN put together, and after a war to.

Hypersonic Attack Aircraft - This one is kinda ok, I know they are planning to have one at Mach 10. Though this technology seems a little stretched. Basically nothing except a laser can hit it.

FotoFighter - Laser tracking of targets, very interesting and probable. Only problem is that is it a new aircraft or a modified old one. New production aircraft like the F-22 Raptor has technology 10 years old already, but is still considered the best air supremecy fighter/bomber. Clarify please, F/A-22 would make an EXCELLENT choice since the technology exists. ($10-20 mil upgrades I would expect only to)

Container Aircraft - A very interesting idea, though geometry is kinda against it unless it is bulky. Problem would be the wiring and everything, since the entire plane has to be re-BUILT every time. Folding wings and a compacted center would be a better idea with latched armor panels. No mess and all in the same 20ft by 20ft box standardly. (Stackable planes, and bunkers all in one!) (Bunker parts can be added, or cut into, with panels to come down and lock for protection during shipping) Clarify the size and aircraft and its good to go!

Lighter-than-Air Airlifter - Umm...ya, I don't think this is possible. You are saying it can lift basically 5000 tons on 12500 NM range. Size, fuel and space limits would ruin this plane, it should snap into before it gets off a specially made airfield. Maybe you would like to compare to the C-141B Starlifter, another large aircraft. Cargo planes are rarely redone as they don't change too much over the decades. A slightly larger one is possible I would say by 2015, though the size would impose huge limits to get 5000 ton LIFTING power. (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/c-141.htm)

Supersonic Airlifter - Another good idea, with little backing it. Why would you spend hundreds of millions of dollars to try and BUILD a supersonic cargo plane? The stress and size limits would be dangerous. The sonic boom would also be deafening because of the sheer size. A smaller object creates less 'boom' then a giant cargo plane with jet engines. (Engine numbers would be high too because of the weight, fighters only need one and that is alot of weight for the aircraft.)

Stealth Airlifter - Supersonic has a boom, that alone at low levels is bad to Covert OPs. Also low flying doesn't keep it stealth from heat or visual targeting systems. Better to use the Commanche helicopter, stealth and no airfield needed. Easy extraction. Also precise firepower can knock out enemy bunkers and convoys from long ranges. Commanches exist, but the program was cut cause of a few reasons, since the tech and models exist after or before WWIII they can be mass produced.

Global Transport Aircraft - Good idea, except range is way too high, allow mid-air refueling and it is fine. Similar to current cargo planes, but capable of deploying in mid-air.

Strike UAV - Easily possible, but to have more weapons means more weight. More weight means more power needed and more fuel or power consumed. UAV's for recon are light and cheap, but can't defend themselves. A small attack version can be possible, but it cannot patrol for a full day do to weight.

Reconnaissance UAV - Kinda answered in the above. Though this would be your 24-hour battery powered or maybe even hydrogen powered eye in the sky. (They are kinda low alt. not high in terms of aircraft)

Uninhabited Combat Air Vehicle - A good idea, but the technology for it is too close to the Strike UAV. Fuel problems and weight would make it probably not last a full day for an attack weapon. (Besides you don't hover over your target for up to a full day before letting loose...) I'd say pick the Strike UAV and just use that.

Precision Delivery System - Ya...you might just want to have a Strike UAV-B or something for this, but current systems are accurate enough for this to be a must in combat. Just more equipment that you have to lug to the battle only to have another UAV do it just as well.

UAV Mothership - A good idea, though for it to operate completely well it needs lots of sunlight....Maybe you should just use a space-based solar collecter and transmit energy in mircowave form, this way it is smaller and has an infinite power supply, but limited weapons storage. To refill UAV power packs, use batteries and not hydrogen fuel cells, the Mothership and UAV can then recharge them and switch again.

Exfiltration Rocket - umm...not much of a comment, but wtf. G-forces would be quite high and if people are injured this could seriously hurt them further. A bad idea for covert ops. Also assembly means wasted time. I'd use a Commanche for extraction. (Also capable of holding HVA and other 'devices')

Orbital Maneuvering Vehicle - Possible, but expensive. As for re-arming, VERY VERY dangerous with missiles, WMD's and other weapons. Nuclear missiles or otherwise would be too risky for most to OK this project.

Satellite Bodyguards - The UN or other nations will consider this as a hostile act, space-based weapons are generally bad enough, but protecting them with 'bodyguards' will raise concerns about what will go up with them. Possiblity exists of using these as keys to destroy other satellites by hacking into them.

Uninhabited Air-Launched Transatmospheric Vehicle - If its the size of an F-15 how can it deploy 6' cubed satellites that weigh half a ton each? Fuel and size kinda go against this. It would need to be larger with one function at a time. Preferrably a different model to deploy satellites.


Attack Microbots - Umm....I doubt this will be possible by 2020, Its very small and even some of our best circuits and future work (Transistors the size of a single atom), seems like it will be a long way off before these can be produced properly, reliably and controlled with such small instruments. Power concerns are also needed to be addressed.

Same goes with all nano bots and spy bots of this size.

Spoken Language Translator - A japanese company is already using this (medical info), but slang and accents are problematic and need to be carefully able to understand the concept and way of the language. English seems doubtful to be able to have this, as our language has many parts of other languages into our own and weird spellings and meanings. Two, to, too. As an example.

Lastly...all the satellite platforms with various weapons, not a good idea. Stick with one type and remember that space-based weapons are almost asking for a war. Since this is captured technology, I don't see how you could afford to do all this and have it be completed by WWIII. Since no plans exist to make giant death lasers in space.

The Asteroid thing is my last little comment. Nuclear weapons in space...not good. If one of those rockets malfunctioned the results would be chaotic, using nuclear weapons to also blow and asteroid off-course requires a large force and careful planning, not to mention using it very early on.
Lachenburg
12-08-2005, 23:28
OCC: Why don't we just create a Factbook post for the Earth and have everybody post their information there? After all, it would help reduce the OCC clutter in this Thread.

IC Post on the way.
Mauiwowee
12-08-2005, 23:39
Kjata - are you going to reply to my request for a meeting and alliance of some sort?

As to Yderia's stuff and Kjata's reply - since this earth is based on the fact that society as a whole collapsed on a world wide basis in 2008-2010, and we are only just now emerging from the shadows of a nuclear war and attempting to rebuild, I think no one should have anything that doesn't exist in RL to start with - they can develop stuff in the future, but to start off as we rebuild, we need to be limited to existing stuff and issues about rebuilding and re-establishing trade need to take priority over war weapons - look and my and Texarkania's and Kjata's posts - I'm trying to expand oil production, Texarkania is trying to rebuild his infra-structure, both have minor military strengths. Kjata is still fighting off civil unrest and terrorists as he tries to consolidate control. We need to RP the rebuild of the world before we invest in Uber Weapons and their possibilities.
Czechoslovakia-
13-08-2005, 07:05
TO: Helnacht, Rodenka, Yderia, and Lachenburg
FROM: Czechoslovakia Priemer

Greetings to you all.

I have observed that different alliances are springing up in Europe, and I propose that all of us join together in one, strong alliance. Together, nothing can stand in our way, and together, we can make on this Earth, powerful economies, invincible militaries, and happy people.

Our name, I propose to be, the Commonwealth of United Nations, or CUN. Our alliance will work as if we are one, strong confederate government. Every nation has a say, and every nation will do what is good for the commonwealth.

If you all accept, I will propose we pool our spare money together to help our massive reconstruction, and plan out our soon to be expansion. I await your replies with eagerness.

-The Primier of Czechoslovakia

OOC: I agree with Mauiwowie. Save the kick-all-ass technology for later. Our nations have JUST emerged from a nuclear World War and a massive international depression. So right now, I think our countries are wrecks trying to be rebuilt.

Also, a factbook might not be a bad idea... I may make one later... once my population reaches 10 million.

Finally, can Kjata Major, or anyone for that matter, come up with some maps for us? That way, we won't be as confused.
Kjata Major
13-08-2005, 10:39
::: Encrypted Telegram :::

TO: Kjata Major
FROM: Mauiwowee
RE: Possible Alliance
DATE: Today

Dear Sirs:
From all Accounts you have managed to stabalize Japan, Malaysia and the Phillipines and we congratulate you on the succes of that undertaking. As you may or may not know, I have managed to unify and stablize Eastern Australia. You and I are posed to dominate and rebuild the Pacific rim and Asia and I would like to discuss the possibility of an alliance with you. We have much to offer in trade, but are in need of things as you must be. For example, we can offer Coal, Iron Ore, Steel, gold and Uranium however, we need oil. We have some significant reserves (approx. 3 Billion barrels known) but we cannot get at all of it at this time due to continued chaos in Western Australia. You have reserves in Malaysia though. We feel a mutually beneficial arrangement could be worked out between our nations that enables us to rebuild this area of the world together. If you are interested, we'd ask that you please contact us. We would be happy to host a summit here in Sydney if you are interested.

Sincerely,
His Royal Highness,
King Rox Narcosis
Mauiwowee

Kjata herself read the message and decided to give a formal reply right away.

Secret Message - Encrypted, encryption codes manually given over comm. links

To: King Rox Narcosis
From: Kjata

As much as I would like to attend a meeting, my power doesn't stretch into the southern hemisphere that much. Though I could send along one of my generals, though no such things need be done.

Let's create the Pacific Alliance. It will be similar to the European Union, EU.

As such I've come up with a few rules and guidelines for each of us to follow.

1. No international money issues. One currency for our nations, to make business matters easier and also feel unified. One side from your nation, the other side from Kjata. A strong currency will be ensured as Kjata is currently tax-free and our money is stronger then the American Dollar!

2. Same legal guidelines for criminals. If one of your criminals is caught in Kjata, said person commiting no crime in Kjata that is, shall be shipped back to hold trial in Mauiwowee. If said person commits a crime in Kjata and Mauiwowee, they shall be first tried on the first crime in either nation and then be shipped to the other for another trial.

3. Joint military operations. One nation attacks or even an alliance, the other MUST declare war and send forces to aid the other. Since this is a two-way alliance Kjata wishes to stay with a tight alliance and not long alliance chains. Military operations for attacking other nations; both nations attack together and will rule over the area taken together as a joint effort. If one nation attacks alone they can take the area for themselves, but if they are forced out will not be covered in chance of invasion by said country. Though by all means it will be supportive in protecting and jointly attacking a neutral or nation(s) together.

4. Each nations military can remain seperate, but should be able to train together. Though military training is not required it is supportive to train with other units and teams to gain trust and experience.

5. Each nation shall share technology and even go as far as sending over working models of weapons and military or other defensive weapons. Though if it is 'Covert Ops' listed such matters are not needed to be shared, but also supportive.

6. Reshaping the vast deserts of Australia into large farms and cities for growing large amounts of food. A water network will be constructed by Kjata and farms can be operated by Mauiwowie. (All water will be purified sea water, pumped into the water grid and reserves, the sea salt that will be extracted can be used to dry meats or used in food. Will be free of charge for both nations to use as another symbol of working together.)

7. Offshore Oilrigs and oil wells will produce oil from Kjata Major plants for Mauiwowie use at a standard $20 a barrel. Another pipeline will be constructed to send the oil directly to Mauiwowie.

8. Clean power plants and other green technologies should be jointly created and installed in Mauiwowie and Kjata Major.

9. Meetings can be called to discuss issues and changes or new ideas at any time. By either nation; in peacetime or wartime.

10. No WMD warfare or chemical, biological warfare. These measures are environmentally destructive to the land and should never be used. Possession of such weapons is allowed, but using them will be seen of inhumane warfare.

~Kjata.

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Rodenka
13-08-2005, 17:12
TO: Helnacht, Rodenka, Yderia, and Lachenburg
FROM: Czechoslovakia Priemer

Greetings to you all.

I have observed that different alliances are springing up in Europe, and I propose that all of us join together in one, strong alliance. Together, nothing can stand in our way, and together, we can make on this Earth, powerful economies, invincible militaries, and happy people.

Our name, I propose to be, the Commonwealth of United Nations, or CUN. Our alliance will work as if we are one, strong confederate government. Every nation has a say, and every nation will do what is good for the commonwealth.

If you all accept, I will propose we pool our spare money together to help our massive reconstruction, and plan out our soon to be expansion. I await your replies with eagerness.

-The Primier of Czechoslovakia


TO:Czecholsovakia-
CC:Helnacht, Yderia, Lachenberg

An excellent idea! The name sounds fine. Fortunately, our economy is already on the road to recovery. Europe united once again will be a powerful economic and military bloc. Already, we are expanding rail networks and roads throughout Rodenka and into Helnacht and our neighbors countries. These new rail lines will be run with steam engines, as oil these days is a mite too precious to use for diesel engines.

Sincerely,
Iosef Vladislov, Prime Minister of Rodenka
Kjata Major
13-08-2005, 17:44
OOC: It seems like the nations are forming alliances on regional basis really, sometimes you want an economical one also. Creating an alliance also means having to back your ally in wartime.

Mauiwowie and Kjata are part of an economic, military and regional alliance, covering the North and South Hemispheres.

Just remember your allies and be good to them, cause sometimes alliances don't last if you aren't friendly to one another.
Sardukarr
13-08-2005, 23:04
Now that im official, heres the short history of my country. All the facts n stuff will come in a bit
2008: Although Hillary Clinton is elected president, she does this despite losing every southern state. Her administration's plans are concern for the conservative south, and they form "The Southern Alliance" berforehand in opposition. After the terrorist attacts, the alliance becomes more and more powerful as America's infrastucture crumbles.
2009: President McCain declares martial law, the final step of opression in the minds of the south. The first state to ratify the decleration of independance and to join the confederacy, the state of South Carolina is again the first to secede.
2010: Over the course of the next year Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, Tennesse and Kentucky join South Carolina in succession. In the words of Governor Johnston of Virgina :"The destruction of America's stability is alarming enough, but the continued intrusion of the federal government into the censoring of our rights has convinced us that the United States true to the Constitution lies with the people of South Carolina"
2011:With representatives of each state meeting in Columbia, the new senate ratifies a new constitution to form the Nation of Sardukarr, electing former US senator Wade Hampton as President.
2013: Determined to liberate suffering people and more clearly define it's borders, Sardukarr's troops are sent into West Virginia, Maryland and Delaware. In a last ditch effort at control the remenants of the US Military strike back with all they can marshall. Despite being outnumbered and lacking comparable technology, Sardukarr eradicates the remenants of the US Army at "The Third Battle of Manassas" thanks to the military genius of it's General Stuart.
2014: West Virginia, Maryland and Deleware officially join the Republic of Sardukarr
Kjata Major
14-08-2005, 00:31
Something Suspicious in the Sea of Japan
-Leaked information, classified

Yesterday at midnight, a newly constructed naval yard was active as can be. Inside a giant dock, that looks much like a giant hangar a weird sound was heard.

The sound of giant machines spinning and whirring could be heard miles away. Something had spurred to life. A massive ship perhaps is being held within the dock. The structure is over 700 feet wide and 2000 ft long. Constructed much like a hangar it is impossible to sea what is occuring inside.

Recently large military trucks have been seen, bringing pipes of over six meters wide to the naval base. Massive refrigeration machines have been spotted enterring the base. An influx of thousands upon thousands workers continue to work on this unseen ship. These workers LIVE at this naval base.

Each passing day more equipment is seen carried into the naval base, none leaving, but each day at around midnight, if you listen real carefully, you can hear the sounds of a massive object slipping into the depths of the water. The area around the base is a no-fly zone.

However a 'lost' news copter flew over a nearby area at dusk and noticed something strange. Past this northern naval base, there is a small island, which has disappeared from the face of the Earth! The Habomai Islands northern most island has dissappeared. Though the area appears strange if you were to fly over it.....the water seems to not flow. Though the military will not allow anyone to enter this region, it is obvious something is happening on the Habomai Island.
Helnacht
14-08-2005, 01:14
News from Helnacht

President Viogot agreed that Helnacht would join the Commonwealth as a full partner. He hoped the economic prosperity would arise from this alliance and expressed his wishes og good will to the other national leaders.

He also annoucned the Helnacht would begin re-building the rail networks and add new rails to connect the entire nation together by train. Said train will be steam-driven to conserve fuel for the military.
Czechoslovakia-
14-08-2005, 06:43
OOC: Warta Endor has been kicked from Earth X because his claims are WAY too large. His territory is now neutral. He can of course come back and claim, but he has to make sure his territory is under 1 million square kilometers.
Yderia
14-08-2005, 17:35
TO: Helnacht, Rodenka, Yderia, and Lachenburg
FROM: Czechoslovakia Priemer

Greetings to you all.

I have observed that different alliances are springing up in Europe, and I propose that all of us join together in one, strong alliance. Together, nothing can stand in our way, and together, we can make on this Earth, powerful economies, invincible militaries, and happy people.

Our name, I propose to be, the Commonwealth of United Nations, or CUN. Our alliance will work as if we are one, strong confederate government. Every nation has a say, and every nation will do what is good for the commonwealth.

If you all accept, I will propose we pool our spare money together to help our massive reconstruction, and plan out our soon to be expansion. I await your replies with eagerness.

-The Primier of Czechoslovakia



TO: Helnacht, Rodenka, Czechoslovakia, and Lachenburg
FROM: Supreme Chancellor of the Confederation of Yderia
CC: Helnacht, Rodenka and Lachenburg

Premier,
The Confederation of Yderia is more than willing to enter into such an alliance to promote cultural understanding, military strength and economic expansion throughout.

Whilst it is a good idea, we would like to suggest the name "Confederation of European States" (CES), as afterall it will be a confederate state.

However, we would like to know if we will be allowed to keep our current government system to deal primarily with Domestic issues, and also to oversee all CES, or CUN, activities.

We hope these are acceptable, as we wish to rebuild the world, together. We pledge as much support as we can to reconstruction/expansion depending on what the state asks of us.

Thank you for the opportunity.

Martin O'Reilly,
Supreme Chancellor of the Confederation of Yderia,
New Belfast.



OOC: I dont think CUN is a good abbreviation, because when the Commonwealth of United Nations Treaty is signed, what is its abbreviation going to spell???;)
Yderia
14-08-2005, 17:39
Umm....wow...

Since this is WWIII and as we all predict it will be a hostile nuclear war, that will be very damaging. The ability of your US forces are way past MT and anything that can be made by 2020 without lots of funding and a budget bigger then the entire UN put together, and after a war to.

Hypersonic Attack Aircraft - This one is kinda ok, I know they are planning to have one at Mach 10. Though this technology seems a little stretched. Basically nothing except a laser can hit it.

FotoFighter - Laser tracking of targets, very interesting and probable. Only problem is that is it a new aircraft or a modified old one. New production aircraft like the F-22 Raptor has technology 10 years old already, but is still considered the best air supremecy fighter/bomber. Clarify please, F/A-22 would make an EXCELLENT choice since the technology exists. ($10-20 mil upgrades I would expect only to)

Container Aircraft - A very interesting idea, though geometry is kinda against it unless it is bulky. Problem would be the wiring and everything, since the entire plane has to be re-BUILT every time. Folding wings and a compacted center would be a better idea with latched armor panels. No mess and all in the same 20ft by 20ft box standardly. (Stackable planes, and bunkers all in one!) (Bunker parts can be added, or cut into, with panels to come down and lock for protection during shipping) Clarify the size and aircraft and its good to go!

Lighter-than-Air Airlifter - Umm...ya, I don't think this is possible. You are saying it can lift basically 5000 tons on 12500 NM range. Size, fuel and space limits would ruin this plane, it should snap into before it gets off a specially made airfield. Maybe you would like to compare to the C-141B Starlifter, another large aircraft. Cargo planes are rarely redone as they don't change too much over the decades. A slightly larger one is possible I would say by 2015, though the size would impose huge limits to get 5000 ton LIFTING power. (http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/c-141.htm)

Supersonic Airlifter - Another good idea, with little backing it. Why would you spend hundreds of millions of dollars to try and BUILD a supersonic cargo plane? The stress and size limits would be dangerous. The sonic boom would also be deafening because of the sheer size. A smaller object creates less 'boom' then a giant cargo plane with jet engines. (Engine numbers would be high too because of the weight, fighters only need one and that is alot of weight for the aircraft.)

Stealth Airlifter - Supersonic has a boom, that alone at low levels is bad to Covert OPs. Also low flying doesn't keep it stealth from heat or visual targeting systems. Better to use the Commanche helicopter, stealth and no airfield needed. Easy extraction. Also precise firepower can knock out enemy bunkers and convoys from long ranges. Commanches exist, but the program was cut cause of a few reasons, since the tech and models exist after or before WWIII they can be mass produced.

Global Transport Aircraft - Good idea, except range is way too high, allow mid-air refueling and it is fine. Similar to current cargo planes, but capable of deploying in mid-air.

Strike UAV - Easily possible, but to have more weapons means more weight. More weight means more power needed and more fuel or power consumed. UAV's for recon are light and cheap, but can't defend themselves. A small attack version can be possible, but it cannot patrol for a full day do to weight.

Reconnaissance UAV - Kinda answered in the above. Though this would be your 24-hour battery powered or maybe even hydrogen powered eye in the sky. (They are kinda low alt. not high in terms of aircraft)

Uninhabited Combat Air Vehicle - A good idea, but the technology for it is too close to the Strike UAV. Fuel problems and weight would make it probably not last a full day for an attack weapon. (Besides you don't hover over your target for up to a full day before letting loose...) I'd say pick the Strike UAV and just use that.

Precision Delivery System - Ya...you might just want to have a Strike UAV-B or something for this, but current systems are accurate enough for this to be a must in combat. Just more equipment that you have to lug to the battle only to have another UAV do it just as well.

UAV Mothership - A good idea, though for it to operate completely well it needs lots of sunlight....Maybe you should just use a space-based solar collecter and transmit energy in mircowave form, this way it is smaller and has an infinite power supply, but limited weapons storage. To refill UAV power packs, use batteries and not hydrogen fuel cells, the Mothership and UAV can then recharge them and switch again.

Exfiltration Rocket - umm...not much of a comment, but wtf. G-forces would be quite high and if people are injured this could seriously hurt them further. A bad idea for covert ops. Also assembly means wasted time. I'd use a Commanche for extraction. (Also capable of holding HVA and other 'devices')

Orbital Maneuvering Vehicle - Possible, but expensive. As for re-arming, VERY VERY dangerous with missiles, WMD's and other weapons. Nuclear missiles or otherwise would be too risky for most to OK this project.

Satellite Bodyguards - The UN or other nations will consider this as a hostile act, space-based weapons are generally bad enough, but protecting them with 'bodyguards' will raise concerns about what will go up with them. Possiblity exists of using these as keys to destroy other satellites by hacking into them.

Uninhabited Air-Launched Transatmospheric Vehicle - If its the size of an F-15 how can it deploy 6' cubed satellites that weigh half a ton each? Fuel and size kinda go against this. It would need to be larger with one function at a time. Preferrably a different model to deploy satellites.


Attack Microbots - Umm....I doubt this will be possible by 2020, Its very small and even some of our best circuits and future work (Transistors the size of a single atom), seems like it will be a long way off before these can be produced properly, reliably and controlled with such small instruments. Power concerns are also needed to be addressed.

Same goes with all nano bots and spy bots of this size.

Spoken Language Translator - A japanese company is already using this (medical info), but slang and accents are problematic and need to be carefully able to understand the concept and way of the language. English seems doubtful to be able to have this, as our language has many parts of other languages into our own and weird spellings and meanings. Two, to, too. As an example.

Lastly...all the satellite platforms with various weapons, not a good idea. Stick with one type and remember that space-based weapons are almost asking for a war. Since this is captured technology, I don't see how you could afford to do all this and have it be completed by WWIII. Since no plans exist to make giant death lasers in space.

The Asteroid thing is my last little comment. Nuclear weapons in space...not good. If one of those rockets malfunctioned the results would be chaotic, using nuclear weapons to also blow and asteroid off-course requires a large force and careful planning, not to mention using it very early on.


OOC: Ok, i had expected problems with this and i had a counter-arguement, but you've convinced me over several. Ill alter my calculations, reduce the numbers and take several out. But lest not we forget, war speeds up technology. With the onset of WW3, the US probably sped up several of these projects, but i will alter it. And no offence to whoever suggested sticking to our level of technology, but thats really stupid! Its a futuristic one, we need new weapons. And fair enough about some of them, they arent great ideas, but I got them off a site so it wasnt all my idea. Kjata Major, if you wanna TG me on NS ill chat with you about what u think i should keep, numbers etc.Constructive criticism never hurt anyone!
Kjata Major
14-08-2005, 21:25
OOC: Ok, i had expected problems with this and i had a counter-arguement, but you've convinced me over several. Ill alter my calculations, reduce the numbers and take several out. But lest not we forget, war speeds up technology. With the onset of WW3, the US probably sped up several of these projects, but i will alter it. And no offence to whoever suggested sticking to our level of technology, but thats really stupid! Its a futuristic one, we need new weapons. And fair enough about some of them, they arent great ideas, but I got them off a site so it wasnt all my idea. Kjata Major, if you wanna TG me on NS ill chat with you about what u think i should keep, numbers etc.Constructive criticism never hurt anyone!

Sure, its not like you can't do most of these, but the amount of funds and the fact multi-roled units are cheaper and better seem to be easier to do. Though its your money. :)
Yderia
14-08-2005, 21:46
Sure, its not like you can't do most of these, but the amount of funds and the fact multi-roled units are cheaper and better seem to be easier to do. Though its your money. :)
I appreciate the comments though :). Listen, if i TG you my military inventory on NS, will you look it over and approve it or suggest anything else i can do, because i do appreciate help!?
Kyanges
14-08-2005, 21:49
Yderia, I wouldn't base too many of the changes you plan on making off of Kjata's information.

Some examples of this include:

-Arguments about the sonic boom: There have already been successful tests that eliminate or severely reduce this. All that was needed was a small change to the aircraft's nose.

-The "Cargo Planes are not often redone:" bit: Well, let's do a rundown. C-5 has already had two refits, the C-130 is in it's "J" model, the Starlifter he mentions is already in its "B" form... They change all the time.

-His points about the UAV mothership: Don't do the microwave idea. Simple as that. The project came around in the 70's. and died partly because of extreme maintenance costs (Which kinda defeats the purpose of the UAV.) and extreme power loss. Also, is you plan on using UAV's with fuel cells only to power the avionics, etc, by all means go for it. Some of these things have months of power.
If you want my advice, scrap the idea for now. The last time the US military tried this kind of thing was in the 50's and 60's with the B-36, and it's little fighter escort. Problems included, recovery of the plane, handling problems due to the mothership's vortexes and a host of other issues. In short, launching is fine, but don't try to recover in mid air.

-All his comments about Commanches to extract anything: No. Just no. These craft were for recon, and light attack only. They have no troop carrying areas. At all.

(Note: These are all just my opinions only. I'm human, and they could be wrong, but I find it a lot more reliable to do your own research, and not rely on other RPers constructive criticism to help you with issues like these. Once again, that's just my experience. But if you do need help about your military, talk to people like me, Clan Smoke Jaguar, Layarteb (sp) and some other well known military buffs.)
Yderia
14-08-2005, 21:53
Well im just asking opinions. Thanks for your input. I've got military stats and aircraft already planned so....thanks anyway
Kyanges
14-08-2005, 21:56
Well im just asking opinions. Thanks for your input. I've got military stats and aircraft already planned so....thanks anyway

(OOC: Hey, if you do need opinions, feel free to ask. Personal research is what I prefer is all I'm saying. Actually, do you mind if I get a look at your military inventory as well? A second opinion couldn't hurt.)
Kjata Major
14-08-2005, 22:20
Yderia, I wouldn't base too many of the changes you plan on making off of Kjata's information.

Some examples of this include:

-Arguments about the sonic boom: There have already been successful tests that eliminate or severely reduce this. All that was needed was a small change to the aircraft's nose.

-The "Cargo Planes are not often redone:" bit: Well, let's do a rundown. C-5 has already had two refits, the C-130 is in it's "J" model, the Starlifter he mentions is already in its "B" form... They change all the time.

-His points about the UAV mothership: Don't do the microwave idea. Simple as that. The project came around in the 70's. and died partly because of extreme maintenance costs (Which kinda defeats the purpose of the UAV.) and extreme power loss. Also, is you plan on using UAV's with fuel cells only to power the avionics, etc, by all means go for it. Some of these things have months of power.
If you want my advice, scrap the idea for now. The last time the US military tried this kind of thing was in the 50's and 60's with the B-36, and it's little fighter escort. Problems included, recovery of the plane, handling problems due to the mothership's vortexes and a host of other issues. In short, launching is fine, but don't try to recover in mid air.

-All his comments about Commanches to extract anything: No. Just no. These craft were for recon, and light attack only. They have no troop carrying areas. At all.

(Note: These are all just my opinions only. I'm human, and they could be wrong, but I find it a lot more reliable to do your own research, and not rely on other RPers constructive criticism to help you with issues like these.)

You have just proved you have nothing better to do then follow me around don't you Kyanges.

One...I meant NEW cargo planes, duh! Maybe you would read and actually get at the designs. Oh ya...last time when did you ever hear of a plane that can LIFT 5000 tons? And....about a LIGHTER THEN AIR MODEL? You just proved yourself to be an idiot!

Oh ya...UAV Mothership with mircowave...hmm technology is advanced 50 years since the last thing you mentioned and its been WWIII. Based on technologic increases you could have a Mircowave Power Plant by this year! So why not simply transmit power from the satellite to the UAV mothership. Third, recovery, yes this is quite hard, but 15 years of computer advancements and the AI could just link up and automatically perform this complex operation with the Mothership guiding it. Its possible, if we can refuel in midair you can load a miniture plane with new batteries and weapons. The systems for it would be slightly more complex, but if it was like a 'snap-on' feature it could be really easy.

Comanches for extraction, hmm they may not be the best, but with a few changes (which can be specialized and done), it is a LOT more practical then assembling a ROCKET and blasting out of there. READ next time. Commanches can be used for infilration and extraction due to the small size. Though a vehicle for simply extraction is kinda weird...a Chinook would be wonderful, but would be easily spotted and shot down, so either think of something better or shut up. Now a four crew capacity is limited, but this is MILITARY version, more powerful engine and more space. Though I am such a sucker for a Piper Comanche, its small, looks like any other pleasure aircraft. Great for small runways and easy to avoid questions.

Oh ya...I am NOT talking about the stupid helicopter you idiot! It can't carry crap! Two crew members and it is pretty advanced. One of the PIPER Comanche planes are suitable for FOUR people and gear. Its small and looks pretty harmless. It isn't military so it won't be shot down over cities or anything. Unless you are purposefully trying to get caught it shouldn't be much of a noticable thing. A stealth helicopter though...what a STUPID idea! No crew, no storage and specialized training to pilot it would be pathetic, what do you want. Face it, this is cheap, civilian and easy to fly. Not a bad idea. (Oh ya it can fly for 6 hours and carry half a ton on its basic model.)

Idiot...
Yderia
14-08-2005, 22:25
(OOC: Hey, if you do need opinions, feel free to ask. Personal research is what I prefer is all I'm saying. Actually, do you mind if I get a look at your military inventory as well? A second opinion couldn't hurt.)
Yeah ill send you it next monday, I need that amount of time to research myself, and i am doing all my own research, its just im asking opinions, or getting them given no matter what! Ill let anyone check them up, as long as u swear not to use them against me in the RP, ie if i have secret planes, you dont know about them;)! TG you them on monday week!
Kjata Major
14-08-2005, 22:37
Yeah ill send you it next monday, I need that amount of time to research myself, and i am doing all my own research, its just im asking opinions, or getting them given no matter what! Ill let anyone check them up, as long as u swear not to use them against me in the RP, ie if i have secret planes, you dont know about them;)! TG you them on monday week!

He's FT, he won't care. He's not even in this. He tends to follow me around like a lackey sometimes. Then he does one of these behind my back: O.o ..i..
Kyanges
14-08-2005, 22:37
You have just proved you have nothing better to do then follow me around don't you Kyanges.

One...I meant NEW cargo planes, duh! Maybe you would read and actually get at the designs. Oh ya...last time when did you ever hear of a plane that can LIFT 5000 tons? And....about a LIGHTER THEN AIR MODEL? You just proved yourself to be an idiot!

Oh ya...UAV Mothership with mircowave...hmm technology is advanced 50 years since the last thing you mentioned and its been WWIII. Based on technologic increases you could have a Mircowave Power Plant by this year! So why not simply transmit power from the satellite to the UAV mothership. Third, recovery, yes this is quite hard, but 15 years of computer advancements and the AI could just link up and automatically perform this complex operation with the Mothership guiding it. Its possible, if we can refuel in midair you can load a miniture plane with new batteries and weapons. The systems for it would be slightly more complex, but if it was like a 'snap-on' feature it could be really easy.

Comanches for extraction, hmm they may not be the best, but with a few changes (which can be specialized and done), it is a LOT more practical then assembling a ROCKET and blasting out of there. READ next time. Commanches can be used for infilration and extraction due to the small size. Though a vehicle for simply extraction is kinda weird...a Chinook would be wonderful, but would be easily spotted and shot down, so either think of something better or shut up. Now a four crew capacity is limited, but this is MILITARY version, more powerful engine and more space. Though I am such a sucker for a Piper Comanche, its small, looks like any other pleasure aircraft. Great for small runways and easy to avoid questions.

Oh ya...I am NOT talking about the stupid helicopter you idiot! It can't carry crap! Two crew members and it is pretty advanced. One of the PIPER Comanche planes are suitable for FOUR people and gear. Its small and looks pretty harmless. It isn't military so it won't be shot down over cities or anything. Unless you are purposefully trying to get caught it shouldn't be much of a noticable thing. A stealth helicopter though...what a STUPID idea! No crew, no storage and specialized training to pilot it would be pathetic, what do you want. Face it, this is cheap, civilian and easy to fly. Not a bad idea. (Oh ya it can fly for 6 hours and carry half a ton on its basic model.)

Idiot...

One, I didn't even mention the lighter than air aircraft. Lol.
Learn to read.
Two, better idea. V-22
Three, I didn't comment on the rocket. Learn to read.
Stealth Helicopters exist. Read!
Piper, civilian, coast guard. Military? Lol!

Read man, and calm down.
Kjata Major
14-08-2005, 22:42
One, I didn't even mention the lighter than air aircraft. Lol.
Learn to read.

No...you misunderstand, you basically said I was wrong, and yet you didn't even read the original post by her. Correct? You claim that this is possible?

Lighter-than-Air Airlifter A very large capacity, rigid-frame lighter-than-air vehicle that provides one million pound airlift capability with a unrefueled range of 1,2500 NM. This vehicle also has the ability to deploy and recover powered UAVs while stationary or in-transit. Vehicle is able to house support materiel, personnel, and MEDVAC modules depending upon mission requirements.

Kyanges, there is only ONE, so umm I feel confident that you didn't even read her post and was responding to mine alone.

Edit to YOUR edit:

Omg....I know the RAH-66 Commanche is stealth. You obviously thought that from my post and is now trying to save yourself by saying I don't know it exists or some poorly thought idea to make me look bad. We have them in Zero Hour DUH!

The extraction vehicle WAS a rocket, and that's why I said I didn't know how to really respond to it. DUH! Read Y's post THEN read mine, idiot!
Kyanges
14-08-2005, 22:43
He's FT, he won't care. He's not even in this. He tends to follow me around like a lackey sometimes. Then he does one of these behind my back: O.o ..i..

(OOC: For one, you spread more wrong info than correct. Two, I know you, and we're supposed to be RL friends... And don't talk to me like you haven't given the impression that you follow me around.)
Kyanges
14-08-2005, 22:44
No...you misunderstand, you basically said I was wrong, and yet you didn't even read the original post by her. Correct? You claim that this is possible?



Kyanges, there is only ONE, so umm I feel confident that you didn't even read her post and was responding to mine alone.

First, yes, I did read it. Second, I say again. I didn't even mention it. So why are you bringing it up?
Look, if you want to act like a child, call me, and stop spamming this thread, with claims that "I won't even care." and the like.
Mauiwowee
14-08-2005, 23:17
OOC: Ok, i had expected problems with this and i had a counter-arguement, but you've convinced me over several. Ill alter my calculations, reduce the numbers and take several out. But lest not we forget, war speeds up technology. With the onset of WW3, the US probably sped up several of these projects, but i will alter it. And no offence to whoever suggested sticking to our level of technology, but thats really stupid! Its a futuristic one, we need new weapons. And fair enough about some of them, they arent great ideas, but I got them off a site so it wasnt all my idea. Kjata Major, if you wanna TG me on NS ill chat with you about what u think i should keep, numbers etc.Constructive criticism never hurt anyone!

The war came after a massive depression and the collapse of the U.S., it is not a stupid idea. Development of what you propose may be ok, but you don't just "have it all to start with" and Checkoslavikia - i.e. GOD on Earth X agreed. I didn't suggest we are stuck with our current level of technology forever, only that we start with it and work on development of new stuff as Earth X progesses.
Yderia
15-08-2005, 09:02
Ok, i can stick to that. And can Kjata Major and the other guy begining with "K" bitch somewhere else and get rid of your posts from this thread. Please?
Kjata Major
15-08-2005, 09:25
Ok, i can stick to that. And can Kjata Major and the other guy begining with "K" bitch somewhere else and get rid of your posts from this thread. Please?

Ya..I called 'K'. It went on for 2 hours and 20 minutes.....

He might delete them, I dunno.

Have you considered my proposal to research and use one instead a multitude of different technologies, with varients of course. To maximize the US's attack power?

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I wish I could be so lucky. I have been researching as far back as WWII technology to use for Kjata Major. Technical types A-H have been done and a series of vehicles and tanks. Gonna be a mess until my nations gets started.

Oh ya...Kjata is not perfect, nor is any nation. Their is going to be a little uprising that will completely ravage Kjata for a short NS period. Similar to the LoT storyline almost.

Oh ya...almost completely forgot.

I have been testing my RP skills with two elite generals of Kjata. General Masamune and Muramasa. Now for all you sword buffs, remember which is the holy one? Which one is the bloodless killer and the bloody massacrer?

These are the two STARTING Generals under the high commander.

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One of the people will murder all of his friends and burn the cities to the ground. He will destroy everything and then Kjata will be reborn from the ashes....
Yderia
15-08-2005, 11:35
Have you considered my proposal to research and use one instead a multitude of different technologies, with varients of course. To maximize the US's attack power?
I have and for the moment im just building up my supplies, ie ships, jets, vehicles. So far im not doing too bad. Im thinking about everything you said and im probably gonna publish a long list next week, just before the RP starts. Which do you think i should invest in? Is ''K'' actually in this RP?
Kjata Major
15-08-2005, 11:52
I have and for the moment im just building up my supplies, ie ships, jets, vehicles. So far im not doing too bad. Im thinking about everything you said and im probably gonna publish a long list next week, just before the RP starts. Which do you think i should invest in? Is ''K'' actually in this RP?

Ya. I am going to actually make a seperate thread, it would be too abusive on this thread.

I would personally go with ships at this time. The technology of the world doesn't seem like its up to speed, producing more ships and gaining control of the world would be a good idea. Produce maybe five aircraft carriers and use F/A-22's to do most of the work. Mop up the resistance with some Abrams and your done. Gain back the lost ground and protect your area!

Edit: K is not in this RP lol!
Mauiwowee
15-08-2005, 14:20
Kjata herself read the message and decided to give a formal reply right away.

Secret Message - Encrypted, encryption codes manually given over comm. links

To: King Rox Narcosis
From: Kjata

As much as I would like to attend a meeting, my power doesn't stretch into the southern hemisphere that much. Though I could send along one of my generals, though no such things need be done.

Let's create the Pacific Alliance. It will be similar to the European Union, EU.

As such I've come up with a few rules and guidelines for each of us to follow.

1. No international money issues. One currency for our nations, to make business matters easier and also feel unified. One side from your nation, the other side from Kjata. A strong currency will be ensured as Kjata is currently tax-free and our money is stronger then the American Dollar!
Agreed

2. Same legal guidelines for criminals. If one of your criminals is caught in Kjata, said person commiting no crime in Kjata that is, shall be shipped back to hold trial in Mauiwowee. If said person commits a crime in Kjata and Mauiwowee, they shall be first tried on the first crime in either nation and then be shipped to the other for another trial.
Agreed

3. Joint military operations. One nation attacks or even an alliance, the other MUST declare war and send forces to aid the other. Since this is a two-way alliance Kjata wishes to stay with a tight alliance and not long alliance chains. Military operations for attacking other nations; both nations attack together and will rule over the area taken together as a joint effort. If one nation attacks alone they can take the area for themselves, but if they are forced out will not be covered in chance of invasion by said country. Though by all means it will be supportive in protecting and jointly attacking a neutral or nation(s) together.
OK, the defensive part - an attack on one is an attack on both and military aid is mandatory, agreed. Joint operations and conquests with joint rule - each invasion by either of us into another neutral or non-neutral nation should be discussed on a case-by-case basis and the outcome agreed upon before the attack. There may be instances I'm willing to assist you invade somewhere or vice-versa, but where I have no interest in assuming any direct control since once under you control, as an ally, I'll be able to trade for anything I need from the area and vice-versa. There may be other times when joint control is called for. There may also be times when you or I want territory, but do not wish joint control for some reason - so lets deal with invasions by us into other territory as the need to invade arises.

4. Each nations military can remain seperate, but should be able to train together. Though military training is not required it is supportive to train with other units and teams to gain trust and experience.Joint training of the military is a good idea, agreed.

5. Each nation shall share technology and even go as far as sending over working models of weapons and military or other defensive weapons. Though if it is 'Covert Ops' listed such matters are not needed to be shared, but also supportive.
agreed, subject to re-negotiation in 10 years.

6. Reshaping the vast deserts of Australia into large farms and cities for growing large amounts of food. A water network will be constructed by Kjata and farms can be operated by Mauiwowie. (All water will be purified sea water, pumped into the water grid and reserves, the sea salt that will be extracted can be used to dry meats or used in food. Will be free of charge for both nations to use as another symbol of working together.)
Not quite agreeable - it is our intention to re-unify Australia under our rule as a single nation. We will gladly pay the costs associated with the irrigation project, but accept your assistance in the project. Food, etc. coming out of the project would be sold between us in the normal course of trade and commerce. It can still be a symbol of cooperation, but the water network and the land would remain wholly ours and under our complete control.

7. Offshore Oilrigs and oil wells will produce oil from Kjata Major plants for Mauiwowie use at a standard $20 a barrel. Another pipeline will be constructed to send the oil directly to Mauiwowie.
Agreed, and once we get our oil industry back on its feet, we will respond in kind with our oil.

8. Clean power plants and other green technologies should be jointly created and installed in Mauiwowie and Kjata Major.
agreed, we can help with this, we have huge uranium stockpiles for use in building nuclear power plants.

9. Meetings can be called to discuss issues and changes or new ideas at any time. By either nation; in peacetime or wartime. Agreed

10. No WMD warfare or chemical, biological warfare. These measures are environmentally destructive to the land and should never be used. Possession of such weapons is allowed, but using them will be seen of inhumane warfare.
Agreed with the exception that if I am attacked by such weapons I reserve the right to respond in kind.

King Rox
Kjata Major
16-08-2005, 00:28
Agreed on your terms.

Any others you wish to give at this time?
Czechoslovakia-
16-08-2005, 02:19
TO: Helnacht, Rodenka, Czechoslovakia, and Lachenburg
FROM: Supreme Chancellor of the Confederation of Yderia
CC: Helnacht, Rodenka and Lachenburg

Premier,
The Confederation of Yderia is more than willing to enter into such an alliance to promote cultural understanding, military strength and economic expansion throughout.

Whilst it is a good idea, we would like to suggest the name "Confederation of European States" (CES), as afterall it will be a confederate state.

However, we would like to know if we will be allowed to keep our current government system to deal primarily with Domestic issues, and also to oversee all CES, or CUN, activities.

We hope these are acceptable, as we wish to rebuild the world, together. We pledge as much support as we can to reconstruction/expansion depending on what the state asks of us.

Thank you for the opportunity.

Martin O'Reilly,
Supreme Chancellor of the Confederation of Yderia,
New Belfast.



OOC: I dont think CUN is a good abbreviation, because when the Commonwealth of United Nations Treaty is signed, what is its abbreviation going to spell???;)
OOC: Now now now. Keep your pervertedness to yourself. :p Also, I like the name, and since I created it, it stays. Besides, while enemies laugh their asses off, we conquer them right? ;)

TO: Yderia
FROM: Priemer of Czechoslovakia
CC: Helnacht, Rodenka and Lachenburg

Your nation will be free to take care of it's own domestic issues. International issues, however, will be presented to the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of United Nations. Also, the name shall stay... for now anyway... and until Lachenburg replies, we will make the alliance official and without Lachenburg, unless they wish to join later.



The Commonweath of United Nations Charter

In the interests of the people, it becomes apparent that in times of chaos, friends are needed and created. It is the interest of these nations who shall join this alliance, to protect and advise one another on international incidents, such as trade and war with other foreign neighbors. The nations hereby pledge to:

1. Establish a connected transportation system throughout the countries and to be connected to other members, so that transportation of goods and people can go smoothly and easily.

2. Assist each other in times of war, under the pledge that "An attack against one nation is an attack against all". If the countries cannot supply troops, they must send resources, weapons, as much aid as they can.

3. Remove any and all trade barriers and tariffs between member nations, to support and nurture free, healthy trade.

4. To pool together economies, defenses, and millitaries in times of stress and emergency.

5. To hold regular meetings to discuss international incidents. All nations can call emergency meetings in times of stress. In addition, amendments can be made to amend the charter, as long as it's approved with a majority vote.

6. To not interfere with another nation's sovereign affairs, unless these actions will affect other nations around it.

7. And to not intrude and annex territory already claimed by a member nation.

These seven points shall be followed to the word, and the nations will strive to make this world a more peaceful, secure, and free world.

Signatures: The Premier of Czechoslovakia
Kjata Major
16-08-2005, 02:49
Appears that the alliances are forming up nicely.

Ya...How about UNT, United Nations Treaty. That's better then....that dirty word. Just remember it is a Commonwealth UNT. Or something lol!
Sardukarr
16-08-2005, 02:57
When does the two week claiming period end? im more than ready to start conquering. speaking of that . .
texarkania, we really need to reach some kinda agreement on borders and stuff . . im not gonna jump into alliances like a lotta people are, so we need to find some other kinda treaty.
Kjata Major
16-08-2005, 03:00
I am pretty ready to, but I still doubt some nations are going to be able to handle it. Merciless destruction to my enemies!
Arkanaland
16-08-2005, 04:38
I would like to claim the following states as Arkanaland:

Oklahoma,
New Mexico,
Kansas,
California,
Arizona,
Colorado

Total Land Mass: 655,596 sq. Miles


Population: 886,000,000
Civil Rights: Excellent
Economy: Powerhouse
Political Freedoms: Average
Income Tax Rate: 0%
Exchange Rate: 1 arkansas dollar = $1.77
Gross Domestic Product Per Capita: $35,474
Total National Production: $31,429,866,898,447
Private Consumption: $27,594,222,021,181
Government Budget: $3,995,463,413,819
Administration (0%): $0
Welfare (0%): $0
Healthcare (0%): $0
Education (6%): $230,138,692,636
Religion and Spirituality (19%): $728,772,526,681
Defence (19%): $728,772,526,681
Law and Order (24%): $920,554,770,544
Commerce (33%): $1,265,762,809,498
Public Transport (0%): $0
Environment (0%): $0
Social Equality (0%): $0
Government Waste (4%): $159,818,536,553

Economic Grey Sector: 0%
Grey Sector Product: $0
Grey Sector Breakdown:
Basic Necessities: 0%
Healthcare: 0%
Education: 0%
Transportation: 0%
Luxuries: 0%
Recovered Product: $0
Worker Enthusiasm: 91%
Government Efficiency: 96%
Consumer Confidence: 88%
Unemployment: 4.41%
Population Growth Rate: 0.66%
Nation Age: 151 Days
Literacy: 60%
National Loyalty (Individual): 65%
Mauiwowee
16-08-2005, 04:52
Agreed on your terms.

Any others you wish to give at this time?

Nope, sounds like we have a deal and an agreement. Now, we've got a new guy in all the little islands of the Pacific, seems to be coming into power, should we possibly include him?

Oh, how about a name for us - say FOAM - Full Oceanic Allied Military
Texarkania
16-08-2005, 05:09
TO: Mauiwowee
FROM: Texarkania
RE: Trade
DATE: Today

Dear Sirs:
We understand you are in need of oil. We are in need of iron and steel, perhaps we could work out a tradge agreement, please let us know.
Sincerely,
President Vargas,
Texarkania
Mauiwowee
16-08-2005, 06:22
TO: Mauiwowee
FROM: Texarkania
RE: Trade
DATE: Today

Dear Sirs:
We understand you are in need of oil. We are in need of iron and steel, perhaps we could work out a tradge agreement, please let us know.
Sincerely,
President Vargas,
Texarkania

President Vargas:
We are very interested, please inform us of your terms.
King Rox,
Mauiwowee
Kjata Major
16-08-2005, 06:28
Nope, sounds like we have a deal and an agreement. Now, we've got a new guy in all the little islands of the Pacific, seems to be coming into power, should we possibly include him?

Oh, how about a name for us - say FOAM - Full Oceanic Allied Military

I rather leave Mages out, but its up to you. He needs to learn how to build a military at some point.
Sardukarr
16-08-2005, 06:50
numbers:
"Inoffensive Centrist Democracy"
economy: Very Strong
Civil Rights: Some
Political Freedoms: Average
Income Tax Rate: 2%
Exchange Rate:1.2842 turins = $1
Gross Domestic Product:$163,304,729,830.81
GDP Per Capita: $16,330.47
Unemployment Rate: 5.43%
Consumption: $144,074,700,000.00
Government Budget: $20,288,070,000.00
Government Expenditures: $19,476,547,200.00
Goverment Waste: $811,522,800.00
Exports: $20,403,892,630.81
Imports:$20,650,410,000

And the US gets more and more crowded. with this in mind
+++ Official Communique+++
In recognition of the new governments arising from the ashes of the old american government, the republic of Sardukarr would officialy invite the representatives of Texarkania and Arkanaland to Columbia to discuss the future of the United States. While by no means a binding alliance, a plan for the future is always fortuitous.

President Wade Hampton
Mauiwowee
16-08-2005, 08:09
I rather leave Mages out, but its up to you. He needs to learn how to build a military at some point.

No problems with this idea here. It's you and me then. It's time to chew some gum and kick some ass. ;)
Texarkania
16-08-2005, 08:14
numbers:
"Inoffensive Centrist Democracy"
economy: Very Strong
Civil Rights: Some
Political Freedoms: Average
Income Tax Rate: 2%
Exchange Rate:1.2842 turins = $1
Gross Domestic Product:$163,304,729,830.81
GDP Per Capita: $16,330.47
Unemployment Rate: 5.43%
Consumption: $144,074,700,000.00
Government Budget: $20,288,070,000.00
Government Expenditures: $19,476,547,200.00
Goverment Waste: $811,522,800.00
Exports: $20,403,892,630.81
Imports:$20,650,410,000

And the US gets more and more crowded. with this in mind
+++ Official Communique+++
In recognition of the new governments arising from the ashes of the old american government, the republic of Sardukarr would officialy invite the representatives of Texarkania and Arkanaland to Columbia to discuss the future of the United States. While by no means a binding alliance, a plan for the future is always fortuitous.

President Wade Hampton

President Hampton:
I cannot come personally, but if you'll accept my official representative, we'll attend. Just tell us when and exactly where the plane should put down. Also, no offense intended, but with all that has happened in the past several years in the former U.S. our delegate will be accompanied by our own security personnel.
Sincerely,
President Vargas,
Texarkania
Yderia
16-08-2005, 19:39
OOC: Sounds good. But as for the treaty, hwo about Commonwealth of United Nations Understanding Treaty, just to avoid...you know what! CUNUT sound ok?

TO: Premier of Czechoslovakia
FROM: Chancellor of Yderia
CC: Helnacht, Rodenka and Lachenburg

Name is fine for now, and we are happy to sort out international issues with our brethren neighbours. Long live the CUN!

Martin O'Reilly,
Chancellor of Yderia,
New Belfast.



The Commonweath of United Nations Charter

In the interests of the people, it becomes apparent that in times of chaos, friends are needed and created. It is the interest of these nations who shall join this alliance, to protect and advise one another on international incidents, such as trade and war with other foreign neighbors. The nations hereby pledge to:

1. Establish a connected transportation system throughout the countries and to be connected to other members, so that transportation of goods and people can go smoothly and easily.
Agreed. I suggest a CUN International Airport in each member nation's capital. Also railway infostructure, toll-free motorways (and bridges, where applicable). Also freedom to pass though ports without hinderance is also important for Island member nations
2. Assist each other in times of war, under the pledge that "An attack against one nation is an attack against all". If the countries cannot supply troops, they must send resources, weapons, as much aid as they can.
Agreed. But a reasonable amount. The full miltary might of one nation must require the permission from the CUN Council to assist another nation, and turn the tide of a major war. Is that acceptable?
3. Remove any and all trade barriers and tariffs between member nations, to support and nurture free, healthy trade.
Agreed. But some items may require hinderance, ie drugs which may be illegal in one nation, yet not in another. Possibly also tobacco and alcohol
4. To pool together economies, defenses, and millitaries in times of stress and emergency.
Agreed. Although I think economies should be merged fully, even during peacetime, in order to create a large, economically unrivalled, stable economy.
5. To hold regular meetings to discuss international incidents. All nations can call emergency meetings in times of stress. In addition, amendments can be made to amend the charter, as long as it's approved with a majority vote.
Agreed. However I believe that charter chances should be kept to an absolute minimum, unless one nation is having serious problems with one of the issues. I recomment once every two weeks for full council meetings, maybe more frequently...
6. To not interfere with another nation's sovereign affairs, unless these actions will affect other nations around it.
Agreed. Or if requested by that nation (possible coup to overthrow a psychotic totalitarian powerhungry dictator!).
7. And to not intrude and annex territory already claimed by a member nation.
Agreed. Under no circumstances.
These seven points shall be followed to the word, and the nations will strive to make this world a more peaceful, secure, and free world.
Hear, hear! But by ''peaceful, secure and free'', you mean ''Under CUN control'', right?

Signatures: The Premier of Czechoslovakia
The Supreme Chancellor of The Confederation of Yderia
Arkanaland
16-08-2005, 20:06
And the US gets more and more crowded. with this in mind
+++ Official Communique+++
In recognition of the new governments arising from the ashes of the old american government, the republic of Sardukarr would officialy invite the representatives of Texarkania and Arkanaland to Columbia to discuss the future of the United States. While by no means a binding alliance, a plan for the future is always fortuitous.

President Wade Hampton

A representative elected by the board members of the C.C.E. (Coalition of Corporate Entities), the governing body of Arkanaland, shall attend to conference. Indicate time, date, and location of the meeting, and our representative will arrive with due haste.

We of the C.C.E. hope that this meeting will open doors to prosperity between all of the nations of the former federal union of America. It is also agreed that no promise of military and economic coalition should be made as of yet. If there is to be any alliances amongst the invited nations, though we aspire to make some sort of mutual arrangments to ensure the longevity of our Nations, and the International Relations between our fair peoples.

John Raddhart,
Founder of Arkanaland,
Leading Board Member of the C.C.E.
Kjata Major
16-08-2005, 21:28
First Female General Takes Command in Kjata Major

A beautiful woman in her early 20's has taken the third seat on Kjata's General list. Her long blue-hair is supposively natura as she is the product of genetic engineering projects started early in Kjata. Said to be merciless in battle and ingenius about her plans, she would soon become the top general with her superior skills at this rate.

The military ceremony was performed by the Opera sounding song of Adiemus by Adiemus. It was a beautiful song that went right with the mood of it.

The general first was blessed by the priests and given a medallion to signify her status.

Then she lit the candles to pray to her past ancestors and military leaders of path for strength.

The next part was her dancing beautifully to the music with a ceremonial staff to call upon the strength of her body for the trials to come

The candles turned into a blaze and engulfed her in a ring of fire, though she hold true and as the flames died it could be seen she was untouched and unafraid, thus completeing her spiritual test.

Her physical test was to pull the mighty sword Balmung from a tree, which of legend was placed by Odin in a tree and the one to pulled it out would be destined to win in battle. As she pulled it out a cheer went up from the crowds of soldiers as the sword was nearly impossible to pull out when they had tried. She rose it high in the air and with great speed slammed it back into the tree and was cheered for having proved her future and physical test.

She unsheathed her own sword, a Colichemarde. Thus completing the ceremony and becoming the nation's first female general. She was given a loud applause and cheers before she smiled and saluted the mighty Ryo and Toji before leaving to attend a meeting.

A squadron of F/A-22's flew overhead and left trails of red and white behind with sparkling bits of paper. In the camp the sound of at least fifty tanks firing at once. To show support for the new General.

General Ichimonji Minerva - General Minerva
---
(Her name literally means 'the first' and 'Goddess of War and Wisdom')
(Minerva is the Roman name for Athena, the Greek God)
Greater Mactopia
17-08-2005, 01:47
Greater Mactopia Prepares for War!


As Kjata Major engaged the G.M. fleet, he signaled the start of a conflict. Greater Mactopian Government, schocked by the loss of sailors and the destruction of ships, has ordered a draft and has bought many weapons. The Continent of Hyrule has responded to G.M. requests for aid, providing them with fuel, weapons, soldiers, planes and ships. The G.M. army is also preparing shore defenses as well as strongholds around their islands. Missles have been added to their arsenal as well as Nuclear Weapons. Their Navy has been strengthened 10 fold. Rail guns, rockets, and Artillery stand ready to bomb Kjata Major's naval fleet. Anit-Aircraft guns, FA-22's, F-35's and F-18's Patrol the skies. Anti-Aircraft Missles, SAMs and other rockets ahve been added to the arsenal also. The Greater Masctopians are sure to make a stand...


OOC: Requesting any and all aid from foriegn powers. Please Help make a stand....

Thank you.
Arkanaland
17-08-2005, 02:01
C.C.E. National News, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Province

"Today, John Raddhart, Founder of the Great Nation of Arkanaland, announced with much fanfare at the Capitol, Oklahoma City, that a initiative has been enacted, to ensure the preservation of Arkanaland and the Governing C.C.E..

Over One-Hundred Billion Arkanaland Dollars has been allocated for the funding of the new Arkanaland military.

John Raddhart was quoted saying, "Great people of Arkanaland, in this dangerous new world, which our wonderful new nation strides within, we need not beg for the attention of larger nations for protection. We need only to rely upon ourselves for our most needed defence. Which is why we, the board members of the C.C.E., have granted funding for a new National Military, which will safegaurd our Nation henceforth.

Our Military shall be defencive, used only to defend our Nation, and those Nations which we deem worthy of our assistance. We will raise an Army powerful enough, yet effecient, in staying whatever foe may rear its eyes towards our Great Nation. It should be known to all nations, that our intent is not to invade or conquer, but simply to exist in a harsh world without fear."


John Raddhart also congratulated General Ichimonji Minerva, the first Woman General fo the Kjatan Military.

"A great stride in Social and Military order has been achieved by the Nation of Kjata Major, and we congratulate them for stepping forward, onto the great ascendance of Society. One in which a Person is no guaged by gender or race, but instead, by ability." - John Raddhart

In recognition of the event, the C.C.E. has sent General Minerva the "Social Achievement" medal, which has been given to all those whom have broken societal norm and have taken up the great cause of Freedom.

[OOC: It depicts Apes stepping up into the clouds, to ascend into the realm of Humanity. Solid Gold, of course. Arkanaland isn't cheap, even when it comes to foreigners.]

In other news, the C.C.E. Governing Board has elected David Hoshkoff to deligate the so called "Aftermath Conference" which will be held between Arkanaland, Sardukarr, and Texarkania. Hoshkoff will be trusted as the voice of the C.C.E., with the 80 year old having a career in both Business and Politics that spans over 50 years. With his expertese in negotiation and politics, it is hoped that an agreement can be reached amongst the three Nations that will guarantee a long standing friendship between the Nations.

This is Arkanaland National News - Signing out
Kjata Major
17-08-2005, 02:10
Greater Mactopia Prepares for War!


As Kjata Major engaged the G.M. fleet, he signaled the start of a conflict. Greater Mactopian Government, schocked by the loss of sailors and the destruction of ships, has ordered a draft and has bought many weapons. The Continent of Hyrule has responded to G.M. requests for aid, providing them with fuel, weapons, soldiers, planes and ships. The G.M. army is also preparing shore defenses as well as strongholds around their islands. Missles have been added to their arsenal as well as Nuclear Weapons. Their Navy has been strengthened 10 fold. Rail guns, rockets, and Artillery stand ready to bomb Kjata Major's naval fleet. Anit-Aircraft guns, FA-22's, F-35's and F-18's Patrol the skies. Anti-Aircraft Missles, SAMs and other rockets ahve been added to the arsenal also. The Greater Masctopians are sure to make a stand...


OOC: Requesting any and all aid from foriegn powers. Please Help make a stand....

Thank you.

OOC:This is Earth X, you won't get recognition here unless you are a member. No nuclear weapons on this Earth either. Don't wanna be cheap.

My General was much upset over it. Though Earth X will never feel the true wrath of Muramasa because Minerva is going to lead, followed by Krieg, then Masamune. A fifth general is planning on existing, but Earth X he would be unable to use anything.

Your nation's fleet was lucky that they were inexperienced. Next time you will face the genetically enginneered Minerva if you attack. As a warm-up for Earth X! Say....let's make our own thread and settle this once and for all!

Minerva needs practice.
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IC:
Telegram to John Raddhart
From: General Minerva

Thank you very much. As you say its all about ability. My past is one of great pride and training. I am well versed in all arts of war and am superior to my male counterparts. Though it doesn't mean I don't have humanity. Tee hee!

The medal I will wear with honor. Kjatan Military Law doesn't bar anyone from wearing medals and honors from other nations. It empowers the troops and gives everyone a since of justice that is seen in the eyes of the world.
----------------
Sardukarr
17-08-2005, 02:37
against the wishes of the majority of his senate, President Hampton was well on his way to holding the "aftermath conference". he was determined that Sardukarr would not turn into a isolationist, backwater country. he finished his message, and prepared to send it.
OFFICIAL INVITATION FROM THE PRESIDENT
Assured by the positive reaction received from invited nations, the Conference on America is officialy scheduled to begin in two days, in the historical city of Charleston. Due to the hightened hostility existing in todays world, we welcome both diplomats and small security details, as a lone head of state is neither pragmatic nor safe presently. We hope much will be outlined in this, the beginning of America's new future.

President Wade Hampton.

OOC: Ill start a new thread for this; better not to clutter up this thread prolly. its name will be "the aftermath conference" ch-ch-ch check it out. hehe
Mauiwowee
17-08-2005, 03:48
against the wishes of the majority of his senate, President Hampton was well on his way to holding the "aftermath conference". he was determined that Sardukarr would not turn into a isolationist, backwater country. he finished his message, and prepared to send it.
OFFICIAL INVITATION FROM THE PRESIDENT
Assured by the positive reaction received from invited nations, the Conference on America is officialy scheduled to begin in two days, in the historical city of Charleston. Due to the hightened hostility existing in todays world, we welcome both diplomats and small security details, as a lone head of state is neither pragmatic nor safe presently. We hope much will be outlined in this, the beginning of America's new future.

President Wade Hampton.

OOC: Ill start a new thread for this; better not to clutter up this thread prolly. its name will be "the aftermath conference" ch-ch-ch check it out. hehe

Post a link in here.
Mauiwowee
17-08-2005, 04:00
Message to Texarkania -

Dear President Vargas:

You need steel and Iron, we need oil. We'll offer to trade iron and steel for oil for the next 3 years at the following rate:
Steel: $150.00/ton
pig iron ingots: $55.00/ton
Raw iron ore: $0.75/ton
Oil: $30.00/barrel (inc. shipping costs from Texas to Australia)

We'll trade iron ore, iron or finished steel for oil based on these prices and will take as much oil as you are willing to send. We can also pay in gold - $400.00/oz. if you prefer.

Sincerely,
King Rox,
Mauiwowee

cc: Kjata Major
Mauiwowee
17-08-2005, 04:18
King Rox reviewed the day's reports - it looked like the oil crunch would shortly be relieved - a treaty had been signed with Kjata and an offer extended to Texarkania that they would be fools to reject. The rail project was going nicely with fully 40% of the rails now running on a fully electric basis. Manufacturing was beginning to pick up and he would soon be able to fully equip the standing army. Construction of additional ships was coming along, albeit slowly. Aircraft production was beggining and a new model of air craft - the Dingo showed promise. A new government, nationwide computer network was in place and the ID'ing of citizens had begun. A group of people had put together an oil company locally and begun to explore how to re-open the oil wells that had been destroyed in the collapse and get the domestic oil flowing again. Hmm, perhaps Texarkania should be approached regarding technology and oil drilling expertise. They seemed to be in good shape on that front. King Rox sat back. He could see alight at the end of the tunnel, that was something he hadn't been able to see at all just a few years ago.
The New Moon Base
17-08-2005, 05:20
Is it to late to join?
Kjata Major
17-08-2005, 05:35
Is it to late to join?

Sign up at: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=437045&page=1&pp=15
Sharina
17-08-2005, 05:46
I am not sure whether I'd be able to join this Earth. I'd like to set up shop in Brazil, but apparently, I won't be able to fit Brazil into the 1 million square kilometer claim.

I need to know if the limit will be removed once the period of expansion and warfare begins? I'd love to establish a Meso-American Empire, like the Aztecs, Maya, and Inca of old. :)
Kjata Major
17-08-2005, 06:00
Today was also a good day for Kjata Major.

The approval of the treaty. The launching of the SACBF Habbakuk and beginnings of plans for new mines and oil wells.

OOC:
The Habbakuk was launched and the information is found at: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=438487

IC:

The massive ship slipped out of the covers. Like a massive super-carrier, no Pykrete could be seen. To any eye it looked like a massive steel block. Helicopters flooded the deck. A large naval crew was landed on the aircraft carrier. The people inspected the heavy armor and saw how fit it was. A massive ship that was amazingly clean and ready for service.

A large ceremony was performed on top. The celebration was to mark the largest launching of a ship. A ship that would comprise of more weight then that of entire nations combined! It was heavier then every US military aircraft carrier past the year 2006. Capable of storing over 1600 aircraft and defending itself from attacks by sea, land and air it was a fortress.

The ship was also launched on the same day of General Minerva's birthday and day of becoming a General. As a birthday present for her. Assembled in two years it was an amazing accomplishment that revolutionized the ideas of Pykrete as being weak. Plans already in the works for the Pykrete Fleet. An inexpensive fleet of great power and low maintaince costs!

General Minerva's reaction was not broadcast, but it was said she was jumping for joy, she ran up and down on the decks for hours after that and wanted to inspect every part of the ship possible. The press missed this important sight, but the military claims that the ships abilites had to be classified to all that were released in the press document.
Texarkania
17-08-2005, 15:16
Message to Texarkania -

Dear President Vargas:

You need steel and Iron, we need oil. We'll offer to trade iron and steel for oil for the next 3 years at the following rate:
Steel: $150.00/ton
pig iron ingots: $55.00/ton
Raw iron ore: $0.75/ton
Oil: $30.00/barrel (inc. shipping costs from Texas to Australia)

We'll trade iron ore, iron or finished steel for oil based on these prices and will take as much oil as you are willing to send. We can also pay in gold - $400.00/oz. if you prefer.

Sincerely,
King Rox,
Mauiwowee

cc: Kjata Major

King Rox:
We have a deal. We'll supply you with 1 million barrels of oil/month and would request equal tonnage of pig iron and finished steel as payment for the oil. The first tanker ship is headed your way now.
President Vargas
Yderia
17-08-2005, 19:18
To: Leaders of Kjata Major
From: Supreme Chancellor of Yderian Confederation
RE: Habbakuk Class Supership

Sir/Madam
Greetings from the Confederation of Yderia! We watched with interest as your first Habbakuk ship was launched. We would like to suggest and alliance in order to share such technologies. In return for plans/specifications, we will provide you with anything you request, and all information regarding to our extremely promising Fusion Technology which could be implicated on future Habbakuk class superships to save space/cut down waste and risk of radiation. Please reply to us asap. Kindest Regards,

Martin O'Reilly,
Chancellor of Yderia,
New Belfast.
Arkanaland
17-08-2005, 21:16
United Tribes of Oklahoma Energy Corporation,

Realizing the tentionn their own Tribal nations and the Federal Government, the Tribes of Oklahoma united in their first truly independent business venture. Using the relative sovereignty of their Nations, and therefore, the land rights, almost all the Tribes in the State of Oklahoma formed their own corporation to benefit their People.

They purchased equipment from Haliburton, namely, Pulling units for exploring and drilling untapped oilfields. They hired only those with 1/64th+ indian blood percentage, and eventually became the most successful Energy provider in the whole of Oklahoma.

When Oklahoma suceeded from the Union, June 18th, 2009, the United Tribes of Oklahoma were truly the only groups prepared for the initial economic and infrustructural shift from federally dependent to self-reliance. They rebuilt Oklahoma after the War for Independence, effectively restructuring themselves, as well as those Loyal to Oklahoma. Soon after, the other States (now provinces) that joined Arkanaland, saw the success of the United Tribes, and saught their own secession from the Union, joining Oklahoma.


Now the United Tribes of OKlahoma Energy Corporation offers their long-standing experiance of Oil Exploration and Claims to other Nations. Consultation, field planning, site development and even nature reclaimation after the wells are plugged is offered for a nominal fee, depending on the contract.

Consultation: Simple evaluation of the proposed sites, with seismic readings, digital and 3D mapping of the Field. Chemical Engineers calculate probable output (in barrels) of the Field.

Site Development: All sites in the Field will be drilled, cased, swabbed and Pumpjacks, Tank batteries, Compression Stations will be placed by the Corporation. The first two operational months of the Wells will be supervised by our Pumpers, during this time, indegionous personnell shall be trained to take over after the two months period.

80% of Engineering and Scientific personnel will be of the Corporation, the other 20% will be indegionous.

30% of crew assigned to drill, case swab, place compressor stations/pumpjacks/tank batteries, will be of the Corporation, the rest shall be assigned by the Indegionous government as seen fit.

Wages:

Drilling Crews,
Site foreman: $30 per hour
Toolhand: $25 per hour
Derrick Hand: $19 per hour
Deckhand: 17.50-18 per hour

Swab Crews,
$17 per hour

Contruction, (Tank Battery, Pumpjack, Compressor Station placement)
$15-$25 per hour (depending on job)

Pumpers,
$200-$500 per well, per month, depending on how hard the well is to maintain.


All equipment needed will be supplied by the Corporation, at a fair price.

(OOC: Kind of a rough sketch, but aye, I'm tired. This is a business opprotunity open to all nations, if you want to get your oil production back on track, or start up.)
Texarkania
18-08-2005, 00:21
Message to Arkanland:

Dear sirs:
Your success in securing and re-unifying Oklahoma is remarkable. We, as your neighbor to the south, would like to enter into trade agreements and a non-agression pact with your nation. We are currently working with Halliburton in Texas and Louisiana and the Gulf to retreive oil from our vast reserves and would like formal ties with your nation in order to strengthen that relationship for the good of us all.

Sincerely,
President Vargas,
Texarkania

P.S. We assume you will be attending the upcoming conference that President Hampton has arranged, perhaps we can discuss our mutual relationship there.

OOC: BTW, you need to go back a page or 3 and read the history of Earth X, Oklahoma did not secceed from the U.S. until 2009 or so, not 1996.

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President Vargas was happy. He had cut a deal with Mauiwowee to get the iron and steel he needed to finish the high speed rail. Once that was in place, it would be simple to move troops, equipment, supplies, etc. around Texarkania. He could also begin a full rebuild and re-outfit of the military. Particularly the navy needed work. However, a few more planes, maybe of a new design were needed and some tanks, etc. Hmm, He contacted Texas Tech's president and offered him a $100 million dollar grant to organize a school of military engineering to begin to design the new face of Texarkania's military.
Sardukarr
18-08-2005, 00:49
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9465544#post9465544
heres the thread for the conference.
Kjata Major
18-08-2005, 00:59
To: Leaders of Kjata Major
From: Supreme Chancellor of Yderian Confederation
RE: Habbakuk Class Supership

Sir/Madam
Greetings from the Confederation of Yderia! We watched with interest as your first Habbakuk ship was launched. We would like to suggest and alliance in order to share such technologies. In return for plans/specifications, we will provide you with anything you request, and all information regarding to our extremely promising Fusion Technology which could be implicated on future Habbakuk class superships to save space/cut down waste and risk of radiation. Please reply to us asap. Kindest Regards,

Martin O'Reilly,
Chancellor of Yderia,
New Belfast.

Global Announcement on Earth X

The Empire of Kjata Major is annoucing the DESTRUCTION of the Pykrete Carrier Fleet.

The massive carriers which were to travel the world and deliver massive fire power have been met with thousands and thousand of problems. Some of these problems are so great and too costly that they will not be considered practical over conventional technology.

General Minerva's floating carrier is already, two times over budget. The housing for the ship and it's creation cost a massive $20 Billion. Maintaince costs are a hundred, but is still outside the realm of Kjata's funding for a fleet.

The Pykrete is potentionally unstable and is prone to Bunker Buster missiles. MOAB and other missiles have laid destruction to three of our 'prototype' models. They exploded with the force of 700 tons of TNT, the massive explosions were caused by the massive amount of fuel that goes up and continues through the superstructure. The Pykrete prevents the explosion from getting out. The pressure increased internally in the ship and the PS-01 Prototype exploded sending Pykrete raining into the sea. There was nothing left of the prototype.

Pykrete is powerful, but is not considered to be popular in the International Community because it was the first idea to actually build one of these and it wasn't recieved as well...say massive infeasible rail gun for the MT world.

Airship needed to fully load this as with supplies aren't exactly cheap. If it were to be attacked when fully loaded, Kjata Major would effectively lose a large amount of the air power.

Kjata Major already expresses discontent that such a new idea would be considered a GODMOD because it cannot sink. Kjata also hopes that the weakness revealed won't be exploited to their maximum by the Earth X nations.
Sharina
18-08-2005, 01:21
A tall, slender, and distinguished woman slowly approached a stone podium, as several dozen reporters from newspapers, internet news-sites, and television stations were assembled. Excitement surged throughout the crowd as each person present knew deep inside that something vital always occurs whenever the woman gives her speech at the podium.

People began murmuring quietly amongst themselves, asking subdued questions and adding their own speculation on what the situation requiring such an announcement would be like. Each time these conference calls or national announcements, history is created or altered as the Sharina Technocracy makes its destiny in an universe of never-ending chaos.

The woman finally arrives at the podium, and then she took a hammer and began pounding on a small anvil in front of her, just to the right of her podium. The entire audience abruptly became quiet, as if a switch was thrown and all sound was simply turned off. The beautiful, yet determined woman began speaking in a gentle, yet firm voice.

"Greetings and saluations, all.

I'm President Mina Veristek, the wife of President Rand Veristek, who just suffered an assassination attempt upon him. I am not at a liberty to discuss his condition until additional security can be implemented.

I am here to announce several things.

First, the nation of Sharina is finally ready to open its doors to the international community after several years of intensive reforms and reorganization. It has been a difficult road to reform Eastern Brazil into the Sharina Technocracy, yet it has been completed. Foreign diplomats and embassy offers will be welcomed with open arms.

Second, I have declared a new doctrine that Sharina is to reunify Brazil into a single nation. Towards this end, the reformed Sharinan military has begun crossing over into Western and Northern Brazil. Recent resistance is apparently light as there are very few threats in the Amazon rainforest, and there is an overwhelming lack of opposition in those areas. There is no organized government, as there are dozens of warlords and warring primitive tribes still continuing their conflict since the Collapse.

Third, Sharina is undertaking several major civilian projects to greatly increase Brazilian infrastructure, while keeping the impact on the rainforests to minimal levels. We have begun no less than four major dams on the Amazon river, which would provide much needed irrigation water and hydroelectric power. We are also constructing multiple factory complexes to accelerate industrialization and increasing the Sharinan manufacturing capacity by several orders of magnitude.

Thank you, and may our people have a glorious future!"

President Mina Veristek walked off-stage, amid thunderous applause and cheers from the crowd.

The nation of Sharina has finally arrived on the international stage, changing the future of the world irrevocably.

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OOC:

I assume I'm allowed to start RP'ing and start the process of taking over Brazil. I'm looking forward to interacting with you guys in this Earth, as I've seen some pretty good RP posts so far. :)
Mauiwowee
18-08-2005, 01:30
OOC:

I assume I'm allowed to start RP'ing and start the process of taking over Brazil. I'm looking forward to interacting with you guys in this Earth, as I've seen some pretty good RP posts so far. :)

Actually, I believe we are not supposed to start war RP's for a few more days, right now we're RP'ing the rebuild of our nations after the collapse and building a history as to how we came out of the collapse and what resources we have and building new alliances so when war RP's are permitted, we're ready to rock and roll. I think you'll be ok if you'll just hold off on post more about the invasion for a few days and RP some of the stuff regarding your rebuild of Brazil and the infrastructure and military you have in place. There is a history of Earth X a few pages back that tells what happened. People are trying to rebuild armies, get electricity back, roads up, railroads repaired, oil is a big deal now as not many have access to it in major quanities. etc. Read my posts.
Kjata Major
18-08-2005, 01:30
OOC: Nice post. Technocracy, that's a new one. I read the sticky thread about what it was. Hmm its similar to my Scientific State idea. Weird. This means your going to have a clear technological advantage and less problems overall. We are kinda the opposite. Religious, military controlled state.

Our Generals (capitalized to show honor) have more power then the state, but yet it is not a Theocracy.

Would you mind taking a look at my Pykrete ship, your pretty experienced on NS and I wouldn't mind hearing some comments from a person who doesn't jump up and down like Donkey Kong screaming GODMOD and chucking barrels at my head. LMAO. (Here's the link, http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9460571#post9460571)

Just take it as a still work in progress kinda. The ship is done, but not loaded yet. It's pretty massive. Though if you need some background info and wish to look into it here are two important links.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pykrete
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habbakuk
Mauiwowee
18-08-2005, 01:33
OOC: Nice post. Technocracy, that's a new one. I read the sticky thread about what it was. Hmm its similar to my Scientific State idea. Weird. This means your going to have a clear technological advantage and less problems overall. We are kinda the opposite. Religious, military controlled state.

Our Generals (capitalized to show honor) have more power then the state, but yet it is not a Theocracy.

Would you mind taking a look at my Pykrete ship, your pretty experienced on NS and I wouldn't mind hearing some comments from a person who doesn't jump up and down like Donkey Kong screaming GODMOD and chucking barrels at my head. LMAO. (Here's the link, http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9460571#post9460571)

Just take it as a still work in progress kinda. The ship is done, but not loaded yet. It's pretty massive. Though if you need some background info and wish to look into it here are two important links.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pykrete
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habbakuk

OOC: Sharina and I have been Rping together for over a year and have discussed Pykrete several times in the past as a building material.
Kjata Major
18-08-2005, 01:36
Actually, I believe we are not supposed to start war RP's for a few more days, right now we're RP'ing the rebuild of our nations after the collapse and building a history as to how we came out of the collapse and what resources we have and building new alliances so when war RP's are permitted, we're ready to rock and roll. I think you'll be ok if you'll just hold off on post more about the invasion for a few days and RP some of the stuff regarding your rebuild of Brazil and the infrastructure and military you have in place. There is a history of Earth X a few pages back that tells what happened. People are trying to rebuild armies, get electricity back, roads up, railroads repaired, oil is a big deal now as not many have access to it in major quanities. etc. Read my posts.

Luckily my nation already has stable oil production, food, and supplies, but is currently building new cities. The military technology is quite dated with some American and British forces mixed into our own to create new hybrid fighting machines. Still fact remains that even the vehicles themselves are a match for a tank, they are unable to take much fire.

It will be VERY interesting to see how they stack up in combat the first few times.
Kjata Major
18-08-2005, 01:43
OOC: Sharina and I have been Rping together for over a year and have discussed Pykrete several times in the past as a building material.
OOC:
I was planning to give you the full details on the Pykrete vessels, hoping to make some cheap aircraft carriers. Though the problem does lie in the fact that to protect them is very very hard and expensive.

Not to mention the complete idiots who lined up to call an unsinkable ship a GODMOD. You can still put it out of comission or destroy it. It doesn't HAVE to sink immediately.

Costs are too high to modernize unless you plan to use it extremely close to the nation and for a clear use to begin with. When we start off with RPing though, that will be the hopping stone for Kjatan forces. I'll be glad it isn't no Nimitz when I hop and shoot thousands upon thousands of planes in and out of the combat area daily. No more announcing of evil plans!
Mauiwowee
18-08-2005, 02:00
King Rox smiled cheerfully, with the oil coming in and the infrastructure and railroad build going well, 2 Ferret Factories were up and running at full production mode - They could kick out 35-40 Ferrets a day between them. Good, his army would soon be up and running and his navy and airforce would be too. He couldn't wait to see if the new Dingo fighters would work out as well in life as they did on paper. And apparently, the boys over at W.M.D., Inc. were at work on a another fighter design and some new ships as well. With Kjata on his side, Mauiwowee was going to recover nicely.

Description: The Ferret is equipped with full time 4 wheel drive and selective 8 wheel drive. It has a top speed of 72 m.p.h. and has a range of (depending upon driving conditions) up to 375 miles between refuelings. It contains an automated navigation and weapons system that allows the crew to fire at targets from the safety of the vehicle's protective armor and sophisticated counter attack defense systems. Finally, the use of the 105 mm.smoothbore, low profile turrent gun (originally used in the Abrams M1 tank), is optional. The vehicle can also be outfitted with "Stinger" missile launchers (2), Mortar launchers (4), .50 Cal. Machine gun turrents (4), a combination of Mortar Launchers and .50 Cal. Machine gun turrents (2 of each), or modified to act as an armored personal transport vehicle (capacity of 25 w/ crew of 4) or front line mobile medical trauma center (medical crew of 4-8 and injured personnel of up to 8).

http://img23.exs.cx/img23/7076/APVMedical.jpg
Medical Ferret

http://img23.exs.cx/img23/3999/APVwith105mminaction.jpg
Ferret with 105 mm smoothbore, low profile turrent in action

http://img23.exs.cx/img23/5927/APVwith105mm.jpg
Ferret with 105 mm smoothbore at rest

http://img23.exs.cx/img23/1192/APVwith50calandmortars.jpg
Ferret with .50 Cal. Machine gun & Mortar launchers

Manufacturer: W.M.D., Inc.
Drive: Tandem BMW small core turbine engines w/ 8 speed automatic transmissions
Fuel: Gasoline with optional Diesel capabilities
Horsepower: 1,400 H.P.
Armor plating: 15.25 mm "Samuri folded" tempered steel
Suspension 8 wheel independent w/ steel belted "run flat" tires
Weapons Systems: Varies, see general description
Crew: 2 - 8, depending on configuration used
Weight: 18.6 tons
Defensive Systems: Targeted EMP pulse generator, engine heat disapation system (for defense against heat seaking missiles), anti-radar targeting system paint (optional, add $105,000.00 to purchase price).
Price:
Attack Class: $4,645,100.00 each (please state which optional weapon system you desire, 105mm gun, Stinger Missile launchers, Javelin Missile launchers, mortars, .50 cal. machine guns, or machine guns/mortars combination configuration)
Personnel Carrier Model: $3,750,400.00
Medical Trauma Model: $5,950,300.00

THE WATER CANNON Ferret
http://img248.echo.cx/img248/5655/apvwithh2ocannon4xo.jpg

Crew: 6
Turrents: 2, 240 degree rotational range
Water Cannon Specs:
1. Vertical - +45 Degrees and -25 Degrees from horizontal
2. P.S.I. - variable (user controlled) 100 p.s.i. to 3,500 p.s.i. (150 p.s.i. max. recommended crowd control pressure, 3,500 p.s.i. for fire fighting only)
3. H20 Stream - 8" diameter at 50 feet at 125 p.s.i. (optimal crowd control), 8" diameter at 500 feet at 3,500 p.s.i. (optimal fire fighting) - beyond optimal ranges, cohesive H20 streams begin "splash fragmentation."
Capacity: Pressurization tank - 500 gallons
Connectivity: 3 fire hose connections (1 rear center, 1 on each side rear behind rear wheel)
Manuverability: Limited only by fire hose connections
Price: $4,120,000.00 Suggested M.S.R.P.


OOC: prices are for reference purposes only, they are not for sale on Earth X at this time.
Sharina
18-08-2005, 02:20
Heh. I'm actually amused that people cry god-mod when it comes to old fashioned technologies or stuff of the past. Also, whenever people see something radically new, an original concept, or an old technology used in a new way... it appears that it is okay for the "big names" like AMF, Sarzonia, Praetonia, Freethinkers, Soviet Bloc, etc. to use those stuff, but not regular good ol' "Joe" RP'ers like us.

I fully support and encourage new ideas and originality. Its a rare thing to have, considering that many stuff are rip-offs or copies of the original ideas. Look at TV lately, a lot of rip-offs and copycats, while back in the 90's we had original TV like Seinfield, Simpsons, Deep Space Nine, Friends, etc.

[/end rant]

I'll recongize your pykrete ship, Kjata Major. After all, it is an interesting concept, and I'll always recongize new and original stuff. :)
Mauiwowee
18-08-2005, 02:24
Heh. I'm actually amused that people cry god-mod when it comes to old fashioned technologies or stuff of the past. Also, whenever people see something radically new, an original concept, or an old technology used in a new way... it appears that it is okay for the "big names" like AMF, Sarzonia, Praetonia, Freethinkers, Soviet Bloc, etc. to use those stuff, but not regular good ol' "Joe" RP'ers like us.

I fully support and encourage new ideas and originality. Its a rare thing to have, considering that many stuff are rip-offs or copies of the original ideas. Look at TV lately, a lot of rip-offs and copycats, while back in the 90's we had original TV like Seinfield, Simpsons, Deep Space Nine, Friends, etc.

[/end rant]

I'll recongize your pykrete ship, Kjata Major. After all, it is an interesting concept, and I'll always recongize new and original stuff. :)

I'd be willing to recognize it too if you scaled it down just a little. 1 million tons with 300 feet of "armor" and 1,000 planes is a ship so huge as to be pretty impracticable. On the other hand, an Aircraft carrier that is double, maybe even triple the size of a standard carrier - say 300,000 tons and carrying 200-250 planes - Could work and would also probably be more useful and practical in warfare.
Arkanaland
18-08-2005, 02:34
I'd agree with it in the way that Kjata planned on using it. As more of a chain of floating islands to stage operations from, or to use as stepping stones to other areas of the world.
Kjata's design was indeed a great idea, that would be more accepted if it were scaled down some. Good work, by the way.

I'd say that Prykrete also has promise in other areas of both Military and Civilian applications. Prykrete could be used to build entire military complexes in arctic or sub-arctic environments. It could build research facilities (for those of you who like to keep your research chilled), etc, etc.

Since my nation has no territories in the far, ice-covered north, I'll probably stick to civilian applications, such as the two cruise-liners Kjata there inspired me to design...which I'm still designing. Like Kjata, this would be the first ship (or anything else NS related) I've ever designed...so wish me luck.
Sharina
18-08-2005, 02:47
OOC:

Okay, now that I got my intro RP post down, I'm not exactly sure how to fit Sharina into the timeline. I originally envisioned Sharina as a Meso-American Empire, a modern day version of the Aztecs, Inca, and Maya. IIRC, the Mayans were great scientists, and the Incas were spectular engineers. I recall reading somewhere that they built their stone cities without math (or calculus at least)!
Kjata Major
18-08-2005, 03:00
I'd be willing to recognize it too if you scaled it down just a little. 1 million tons with 300 feet of "armor" and 1,000 planes is a ship so huge as to be pretty impracticable. On the other hand, an Aircraft carrier that is double, maybe even triple the size of a standard carrier - say 300,000 tons and carrying 200-250 planes - Could work and would also probably be more useful and practical in warfare.

OOC: Mauiwowee its not 1 million tons, that was me announcing the marker had been broken. The real weight is infact 18.4 million tons. Total costs to produce was $20 billion for the project.

The 300 ft walls are solid Pykrete, which functions as the ship's 'armor' and also keeps it floating. The ship is a over a mile long, over a thousand feet long and three hundred feet long. A Nimitz carrier is smaller. It has over double the size and three times the depth. Airplanes can be stored below the decks and also on top. The thing about simply increasing the length, width and depth is to allow multiple levels of aircraft storage and in better hangars. Aircraft are held down below the surface up to 600 feet. Which gives 900 feet of storage depth!

600 feet wide, 900 feet deep and 6000 feet long. Leaving: 3,240,000,000 sq feet of space. Now from this the inner shell is made and which dramatically cuts the space down, but the flooring, and internal supports don't take up this much of this space.

Leaving ample areas for crew quarters, hangar storage, engines, reserve fuel and weapons storage. Since the ship has to be able to support nearly 50,000 people on it in terms of space requirements:

Aircraft hangars, weapons, crew quarters, engines, misc.

The ship is able to support the massive weight above by an internal Pykrete pillars that make a light arc inside and reduce the steel construction needed on the superstructure. Basically entire buildings were built off the solid Pykrete, hangars were given more support and armor protection then other areas of the ship.

Though by all means, the ship can and could easily support more aircraft, but I didn't want to push it. Since this is also going to be used as a 'hopping' point for most other aircraft I will fill it with more weapons and munitions and allow planes to land and take off after being reloaded.

The carrier is also Earth X's most strongly protected ammo dump. Just don't hit it....please.
Mauiwowee
18-08-2005, 03:20
OOC:

Okay, now that I got my intro RP post down, I'm not exactly sure how to fit Sharina into the timeline. I originally envisioned Sharina as a Meso-American Empire, a modern day version of the Aztecs, Inca, and Maya. IIRC, the Mayans were great scientists, and the Incas were spectular engineers. I recall reading somewhere that they built their stone cities without math (or calculus at least)!

Just have Mina be a descendent of Incas who managed to unite Incan descendents behind her as the government of Brazil collapsed - Use as an impetous for the unification, the need to keep the bio-warfare disease that was used in South America out of Brazil - Basically, the natives regained control from the Europeans that had conquered Brazil in the 1500's (BTW, note it was Portugal that got Brazil, not Spain and today in RL they speak portugese in Brazil whereas the rest of S.A. speaks spanish).
Kjata Major
18-08-2005, 03:26
Just have Mina be a descendent of Incas who managed to unite Incan descendents behind her as the government of Brazil collapsed - Use as an impetous for the unification, the need to keep the bio-warfare disease that was used in South America out of Brazil - Basically, the natives regained control from the Europeans that had conquered Brazil in the 1500's (BTW, note it was Portugal that got Brazil, not Spain and today in RL they speak portugese in Brazil whereas the rest of S.A. speaks spanish).

You know I never got why Brazil never adopted the Spanish language. Today I am still a little confused as why they never adopted spanish have the rest of South America speak spanish. It would make things easier overall.
Sharina
18-08-2005, 03:58
Thanks for the suggestion, Maui. I still can't find much info about South America between 2010 - 2020, so I'm going from scratch.

Here I go!

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2012: South America begins to experience the "Blight" as a result of the biological weapons employed. Mina Veristek emerges as a leader in Eastern Brazil, gathering a cadre of followers. Mina's origins are quite mysterious, as no one knows where or when she was born and raised.

2013: The Brazilian people manage to ward off the "Blight" by closing its borders to international flights, commerce, and transportation. However, it grew more difficult for Brazil to hold onto its western half, as transportation was poor and the dense rainforests still standing in the middle of Brazil. Mina demands elections for new leadership in Brazil, and the people overwhelmingly support her as they wanted a strong leader in the time of chaos.

2014: Mina wins the elections by a landslide, and institutes dramatic reforms in the government. The government was to convert to a Technocracy, and re-population was put on a high priority. Encouragement and incentives were given to large families. Work begins on industrializing and consolidating Brazil's eastern coast, which was far easier to defend and control than the rugged western half of Brazil.

2015: The massive reformations, infrastructure projects, and construction works are well underway. There is a rising sentiment in Brazil that the Brazilians are the rightful rulers of South America, being descended from the Incas. Mina's claim that she is an Incan only contributes to this growing national identity. Brazil is renamed to Sharina as per Mina's orders. Massive efforts in education, science, research labs, and technology are undertaken, with the goal of establishing Sharina as the world's leader in science, education, and intellect.

2016: Sharina begins re-modernizing its military with the goal of re-establishing order in the rest of Brazil, and eventually the entire South American continent. The Sharinan economy grows by leaps and bounds, as it begins to supply goods to the war torn and afflicted nations of the world, as most of their infrastructure were ruined or in tatters from numerous clashes, strifes, secessions, rebellions, and the like.

2017: Sharina continues to export goods to the world, but keeps its borders closed out of fear of the "Blight" and potential foreigner terrorists. Sharina does not feel ready to emerge from the relative isolationism of South America, until it is more capable of defending itself.

2018: Sharina finally achieves its goals of governmental reform, and its military expanded sufficiently to effectively defend itself aganist any future threat from overseas. The Sharinan Navy, Army, and Airforce continues their expansion in preparations for the upcoming struggle to unify South America.

2019: Sharina believes it is ready to enter the international stage, while its domestic policies are improving Sharinan living standards exponetially every year. A cure for the "Blight" is discovered, and rapidly implemented as preventative measures throughout Sharina. The "Blight" cure is also mass produced in preparation to purify South America of the Blight once and for all. The preparations for Operation: Reunification are completed late in the year, and finally put into action in December.

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That's a start, I guess. :)
Mauiwowee
18-08-2005, 05:09
Thanks for the suggestion, Maui. I still can't find much info about South America between 2010 - 2020, so I'm going from scratch.

Here I go!

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2012: South America begins to experience the "Blight" as a result of the biological weapons employed. Mina Veristek emerges as a leader in Eastern Brazil, gathering a cadre of followers. Mina's origins are quite mysterious, as no one knows where or when she was born and raised.

2013: The Brazilian people manage to ward off the "Blight" by closing its borders to international flights, commerce, and transportation. However, it grew more difficult for Brazil to hold onto its western half, as transportation was poor and the dense rainforests still standing in the middle of Brazil. Mina demands elections for new leadership in Brazil, and the people overwhelmingly support her as they wanted a strong leader in the time of chaos.

2014: Mina wins the elections by a landslide, and institutes dramatic reforms in the government. The government was to convert to a Technocracy, and re-population was put on a high priority. Encouragement and incentives were given to large families. Work begins on industrializing and consolidating Brazil's eastern coast, which was far easier to defend and control than the rugged western half of Brazil.

2015: The massive reformations, infrastructure projects, and construction works are well underway. There is a rising sentiment in Brazil that the Brazilians are the rightful rulers of South America, being descended from the Incas. Mina's claim that she is an Incan only contributes to this growing national identity. Brazil is renamed to Sharina as per Mina's orders. Massive efforts in education, science, research labs, and technology are undertaken, with the goal of establishing Sharina as the world's leader in science, education, and intellect.

2016: Sharina begins re-modernizing its military with the goal of re-establishing order in the rest of Brazil, and eventually the entire South American continent. The Sharinan economy grows by leaps and bounds, as it begins to supply goods to the war torn and afflicted nations of the world, as most of their infrastructure were ruined or in tatters from numerous clashes, strifes, secessions, rebellions, and the like.

2017: Sharina continues to export goods to the world, but keeps its borders closed out of fear of the "Blight" and potential foreigner terrorists. Sharina does not feel ready to emerge from the relative isolationism of South America, until it is more capable of defending itself.

2018: Sharina finally achieves its goals of governmental reform, and its military expanded sufficiently to effectively defend itself aganist any future threat from overseas. The Sharinan Navy, Army, and Airforce continues their expansion in preparations for the upcoming struggle to unify South America.

2019: Sharina believes it is ready to enter the international stage, while its domestic policies are improving Sharinan living standards exponetially every year. A cure for the "Blight" is discovered, and rapidly implemented as preventative measures throughout Sharina. The "Blight" cure is also mass produced in preparation to purify South America of the Blight once and for all. The preparations for Operation: Reunification are completed late in the year, and finally put into action in December.

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That's a start, I guess. :)

OOC: Outstanding!! You're obviously feeling better!
Kjata Major
18-08-2005, 10:05
OMG Maui....please never quote anything that large ever again! o.O

Just here to annouce a few things, which I will fill in more and more as time goes on.

Kjatan Technical Page (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9461544#post9461544) - Contains information about various technical models that have been seen and what they do. Older and classfied specs in the RL do affect the info on this page. Oh ya! Desert models are listed also. Please this is looking only, no replies. Voice them...here.

Kjatan Tanks (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9466131#post9466131) - Contains tank information, linked from the first tank picture. Only one listed at this time. Though it will grow. Reply in this thread also!

Pykrete Carrier (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9460571#post9460571) - SACBF Habbakuk page. This is not to be confused with the original one, this was launching info. The comment thread is here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=438109. You can see the evolution of the ideas and budget changes.

Kjatan Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9463301#post9463301) - Kjatan Factbook. 56k warning. Umm...some minor graphic issues to be added in the future. Since Kjatan military rise is on par with Earth X I can have it serve as a duel-purpose log. Please no postings on the thread. The main theme for the nation is really beautiful. The 30-sec clip doesn't do it justice. For anyone who has an mp3 consider yourselves lucky. (I seen the clip on an AMV and loved it. Operatic - Banner of the Stars. Future-tech war SCREAMS this. Though its what the song is for the MT nation!

More to be posted later, but that was information on past happening and some links for people to see. Economic and military reviews, plans and budgets will be released later on today.
Kjata Major
18-08-2005, 12:24
OOC: I am sorry for the double post, but it is two different things. This post is massive! Last post was an update, this is current information.

IC:

Kjata Seeks Resources

The Minister of Foreign Affairs has gone before the entire world and sent them messages with offers for nations to sell materials in nearly insane amounts. Such things are Oil, Coal, Steel, Iron, Copper, Silver, Gold, Titanium, Tungsten and Platinum. Among the top concerns are for Steel and Oil. Every nation is expected to recieve a letter, where Kjata is practically begging for scraps of metal to paying high for oil. The minister had only this to say, "Kjata is growing too fast, we need to buy materials from other nations to build our cities and ships."

Kjata Seeks Foreign Weapons
The Minister of Defense has also sent out global messages in which Kjata is calling upon the world to sell out-of-date and old vehicles to Kjata. This includes massive amounts of civilian cars and bikes. Calls for vehicles stretch as far back to World War II era vehicles. The Minister will privately converse and speak to each nation who wishes to sell to Kjata.

Kjata Seeks Trash!?
The Minister of Recycling and Conservation has sent messages to every nation seeking, trash. That's right. Kjata will take trash off the hands of any nation who does not wish to deal with it on their own. The minister had this to say, "One man's trash is another man's treasure." He has also supported that great amount of resources that are left in the common trash would be able to be picked up by new plants in Kjata and extract more material then previous models. Kjata appears to be offering a free of charge service for taking trash. Toxic Wastes and other hazardous materials will be considered in 3-5 years.

Kjata Rocket Program
Civilian projects to produce rockets have become mainstream with thousands upon thousands of rockets being launched this year at the LDRSL Festival. Pictures have been given and some information was provided at:http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=438719

Strange devices
After the completion of the Festival, in the following weeks it appeared as if there was wierd tests being performed in the hills. Large amounts of rockets had been fired and they streaked across the night skies. Over one thousand rockets are fired at once it seems. Leaving blue-white trails behind. After a point another wave launches and heads in the opposite direction and collides with the other rockets. A bright light appears in the center as the rockets destroy each other. The military however is using many different kinds of rockets, the light show every night is broadcast on televison in Kjata Major.

This constant display changes nightly and is proof of different tests. The Kjatan budget for 'Rocket Testing' is currently in excess of $5,000,000,000 for spending. Though the sheer number of rockets used and seen streaking across the skies never fails to amaze the civilians.

These rockets seem to be kill-missiles. The rockets are still produced by civilian companies with one small variation. A chip that can control the thrust and angle of rocket is being inserted in it, with a small destuctive warhead. These make very inexpensive anti-tank, anti-missile, anti-ship, anti-air, anti-troop weapons. The explosive used in the rockets appears to be C-4. Though the explosive is not confirmed yet.

Kjatan Oil Wells At Maximum
Kjata's oil production has currently been maxed out with the nearing of a pipeline to Kjata Major is seen. The sudden demand for oil has sparked off-shore oil rigs to be built. In several months, 45 off-shore oil rigs are expected to be built and tap the rest of the supplies of a diminishing oil reserve. This oil production boom is to provide Kjata with a massive amount of oil and store it in massive tanks across the nation. For an unusual reason Kjatan policy appears to be intent on drawing all remaining oil out of the region and using storing it.

Possible solution to oil crisis?
Kjata Major has hinted at a project to produce massive amounts of oil. The Minister of Foreign Affairs had nothing to comment on. The issue was raised mere days after Kjata announced the creation of 45 off-shore oil rigs, which would tap the nation's reserves to nothing. Such an action appears as a lashback at the middle east oil reserves. Though the quick fix will provide cheap oil unlike that seen anywhere else in the world for around a decade.
Arkanaland
19-08-2005, 05:37
To: Kjata Major
From: Exploration Unlimitied, Inc
San Fransisco, California Province

Our Government has recieved word of your current Oil Crisis, and has since, sent a request to all oil firms in the Nation of Arkanaland. We, Exploration Unlimited, Inc, hear your plight, and offer to help your Nation in its endeavour to explore your shorelines and coastal waters for undersea Oil Deposits. We also offer to manufacture for you, our newest Offshore Platform, a high-tech, very automated platform (after drilling is complete), that is quite cost effecient.
Kjata Major
19-08-2005, 06:04
To: Kjata Major
From: Exploration Unlimitied, Inc
San Fransisco, California Province

Our Government has recieved word of your current Oil Crisis, and has since, sent a request to all oil firms in the Nation of Arkanaland. We, Exploration Unlimited, Inc, hear your plight, and offer to help your Nation in its endeavour to explore your shorelines and coastal waters for undersea Oil Deposits. We also offer to manufacture for you, our newest Offshore Platform, a high-tech, very automated platform (after drilling is complete), that is quite cost effecient.

Our proven oil resources are being tapped, but it seems unlikely that large desposits are left on Kjatan soil. A Thermal depolymerization program is going to be underway soon which will solve our needs.
Sharina
19-08-2005, 07:02
Our proven oil resources are being tapped, but it seems unlikely that large desposits are left on Kjatan soil. A Thermal depolymerization program is going to be underway soon which will solve our needs.

OOC: Thermal depolymerization? I never heard that thing before.
Kjata Major
19-08-2005, 07:23
OOC: Thermal depolymerization? I never heard that thing before.

OOC: It's not new, but doesn't get much attention. A way of making crude oil in a matter of hours. This will allow Kjata to have an abundance of oil and products even after the world reserves run out. Screw nature! Man does in hours what it takes nature to do in millions of years!

Since the global need for oil is so high, including food, clothes, plastics, etc...that simply running out of cheap oil in the world will push costs too high to simply be economical. Then the world experiences a growth in clean technology to offshoot this. However the lack of oil will create problems. World production for oil is to cap at around the year 2020, the very time the RP starts. Meaning it will cost people alot in fuel and power from this point on. Kjata is using this knowledge to develope a massive burst of weapons and tanks that will fuel a military drive to capture large areas needed for the ability to use these plants effectively.

(Japan is small....not a good thing, America WILL be fine, but sadly....I am not in America. )

The reduce of resources is forcing Kjata into a highly militaristic imperialism state. While the rest of the Earth X nations chug away enjoying reduced, but ample oil resources.

Thus we have a strong IC need that will make Kjata more then just an enemy in Asia, but a massive Empire like Japan during WWII-era.
Sharina
19-08-2005, 07:54
OOC:

I can envision a nice RP where my Meso-American Empire going at it with Imperial Japan v2.0 in 2025 - 2030 setting.

Incas fighting Asians. Nice thought, eh? :p
Kjata Major
19-08-2005, 08:05
OOC:

I can envision a nice RP where my Meso-American Empire going at it with Imperial Japan v2.0 in 2025 - 2030 setting.

Incas fighting Asians. Nice thought, eh? :p

You miss a shipment or two of coffee beans the ENTIRE Kjata Navy will appear on your beaches the next day. You know how serious we our about caffiene. ^-^

It would be a little strange though. High-tech vs ????. How can you even come up with South American Technology?
Sharina
19-08-2005, 08:12
You miss a shipment or two of coffee beans the ENTIRE Kjata Navy will appear on your beaches the next day. You know how serious we our about caffiene. ^-^

It would be a little strange though. High-tech vs ????. How can you even come up with South American Technology?

Hey, its after WW III, and technology has weakened somewhat. Its time to re-invent new and original stuff. I have some floating around in my head, ready to be put in action. :p
Kjata Major
19-08-2005, 08:27
Hey, its after WW III, and technology has weakened somewhat. Its time to re-invent new and original stuff. I have some floating around in my head, ready to be put in action. :p

Guess what I am thinking of? A massive Metal Storm class anti-ship boat. It will essentially be a multi-million round per minute boat that will turn any ship into swiss cheese. *evil laugh*
Sharina
19-08-2005, 08:40
Guess what I am thinking of? A massive Metal Storm class anti-ship boat. It will essentially be a multi-million round per minute boat that will turn any ship into swiss cheese. *evil laugh*

There we go. That's the spirit! :D
Kjata Major
19-08-2005, 08:57
There we go. That's the spirit! :D


Metal Storm is crazy. You can have a 16-pod grenade launcher be able to take out basically everything in a mile radius. Or massive 32+ pods for million round per minute ammo shooting.

Now being able to turn out the massive firepower rates for a full minute is impossible with the load and demands of the guns. So why not have a spinning autoloading system! HAHAHAHAHHA!
Sharina
19-08-2005, 09:58
Metal Storm is crazy. You can have a 16-pod grenade launcher be able to take out basically everything in a mile radius. Or massive 32+ pods for million round per minute ammo shooting.

Now being able to turn out the massive firepower rates for a full minute is impossible with the load and demands of the guns. So why not have a spinning autoloading system! HAHAHAHAHHA!

I can see two possible problems with this.

1. Where will you store all that ammo for a million rounds? Surely you don't expect to actually fire all 1 million rounds in one minute, as you'd have no ammo left for the rest of the "mission".

2. Manufacturing 1 million rounds just for one Metalstorm grenade launcher, then multiply it by 10,000 grenade launchers (a low number for a moderately sized army). Then add that to the millions of naval ship rounds for Metalstorm based naval ships. That'd mean you'd need to manufacture tens or even hundreds of billions of rounds, then the logistical nightmare of transporting so many rounds to each division or naval flotilla.
Kjata Major
19-08-2005, 10:21
I can see two possible problems with this.

1. Where will you store all that ammo for a million rounds? Surely you don't expect to actually fire all 1 million rounds in one minute, as you'd have no ammo left for the rest of the "mission".

2. Manufacturing 1 million rounds just for one Metalstorm grenade launcher, then multiply it by 10,000 grenade launchers (a low number for a moderately sized army). Then add that to the millions of naval ship rounds for Metalstorm based naval ships. That'd mean you'd need to manufacture tens or even hundreds of billions of rounds, then the logistical nightmare of transporting so many rounds to each division or naval flotilla.

Problem with a 1,000,000+ rounds a minute, unneeded ammo cause of the bullets in mid-air despite you having effectively destroyed the target

Metal Storm weapons are going to be used on land combat first, then ships. Airplanes expected in the near future to.

The rounds are fitted into tubes and fired then replaced. If you want to refer to this as 'tube-loading' go ahead. Even small systems can fire 4 grenades in a single pod, then you can add as many pods as you wish/need.

Then with Metal Storm technology you can vary it so that you can fire a million rounds a minute or even individually as you see fit.

You might not have gotten what meant though by the guns. ]

Now Metal Storm standard bullet pods, or whatever the term is. Seem to fire 8 bullets from each pod. This means that you can fire a million a minute, but in a 8 millionths of that second you would be out of ammo. OOPS! Now I know Metal Storm single pods cannot hit the million round speeds; collectively they can.

So now we have 8 bullet pods, and 20 pods. That's 160 rounds. Changing the speed for intercepting bullets.

A theoretical unit designed for ship defence using 20 mm calibre can have a maximum burst rate of 75,000rpm, firing 300 rounds in 0.24 seconds with the rounds separated by just 1 metre in flight and can be used to destroy an incoming (Rocket carrying passengers or instruments or a warhead) missile.

This compares with another type of missile defence system for ships that fires 12.7mm (A heavy gray-white metallic element; the pure form is used mainly in electrical applications; it is found in several ores including wolframite and scheelite) tungsten sub-calibre (A weapon that is thrown or projected) projectiles at 3,000 rpm, delivering one round on target every fiftieth of a second, with each round separated by over 20m. Examples of such Close In Weapons Systems (Click link for more info and facts about CIWS) CIWS are the (Click link for more info and facts about Phalanx CIWS) Phalanx CIWS and the (Click link for more info and facts about Goalkeeper CIWS) Goalkeeper CIWS.


Now this means that the gun would be much better at destroying missiles with a much higher accuracy. 60ft between each round, or 3 ft between each round...hmm what to choose?

Turn this technology on a building and say bye-bye. It has wonderful offensive and defense power! Though individual systems need to be designed and be fitted to hold certian kinds of ammo. The fast-reloading system I am already planning on upgrading for ship-to-ship combat use.

Hehe....I am SOOOO evil! Need meh Sephy evil plushie! *finds it!* *squeeee*
Czechoslovakia-
20-08-2005, 00:34
OOC: Small bump here. 4 days till you guys can start conquering like mad! ;)
Arkanaland
20-08-2005, 07:10
C.C.E. National News:

Today, the C.C.E. collectively announced that the United Tribes of Oklahoma (Formerly, Five Civilized Tribes), will be allowed to build and maintain one Brigade amongst each Tribal Nation. As Such, Oklahoma will have 39 new Brigades dedicated to the protection of Arkanaland's main territory. This will allow the C.C.E. to focus its endeavours to protect the other Provinces which make up Arkanaland, and the C.C.E.

These Indian Brigades will fly under the flag of Arkanaland, C.C.E., Oklahoma, and their own Tribal Seal, which will make them to only Brigades with four patches on their uniforms. They will train with C.C.E. forces to allow upmost unification and desiciveness in the event of an invasion.

The reinstatement of a National Guard will eventually take place for the other Provinces, further bulking up the growing Military capabilities of Arkanaland.

Arkanaland will have to negotiate a buying strategy with the contractor involved in the large purchase, as there are other priorities at the moment.

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The HMMWVs leftover from the Federals and new ones purchased for the Arkanaland military may find themselves out to pasture, or at least in reserve. Though the C.C.E. will not speak of it, leaks have given us scant information about an attempt to purchase production rights of a new Personnel carrier, that will outperform the HMMWV in most respects.

This will be the first Military vehicle to be produced within Arkanaland since the fall of the U.S., if all goes well.

In other news, (Goes on to boring commentaries about rich girls being lost in other Nations, cats in trees, ravers being hung by their testiculars. You eventually change the channel out of boredom)

C.C.E. National News, signing out.
Kjata Major
20-08-2005, 07:52
OOC: Small bump here. 4 days till you guys can start conquering like mad! ;)

hehe, I know one nation who will pay dearly when the time comes to invade. Kjata WILL score the first war on Earth X. Blitzkrieg style.
Craykon
20-08-2005, 08:01
2010: Collapse. "Sucession" of Oklahoma drives once Federally dependant Indian Tribes into autonomy. Thanks to seperate Law Enforcement, Healthcare, and Economic abilities granted in the Tribal Sovereignty Acts (and formation of the B.I.A.), Oklahoma's regression into Chaos was short lived. The "Five Civilized Tribes" turned into the "United Tribes of Oklahoma," which banded all 39 Tribal Nations together in support of one another.

2011: New Mexico joins Oklahoma, followed shortly thereafter by Arizona, in an attempt to ward off loyalists and to pool resources. It is this year that the first Corporations form together, in hand with the United Tribes, to rebuild Oklahoma, New Mexico, and Arizona.

2013: Six Corporations merge into the C.C.E. (Coalition of Corporate Entities), and begin to mold the Political Landscape of "The Land Archane," otherwise known as Arkanaland. No elections are held, instead, the C.C.E. rose to power by promising a new era of Civilization within Arkanaland. Eventually foreshadowing the United Tribes of Oklahoma, although they eventually reconsile and join forces fluidly in 2016.

2014-2016: These years remain peaceful as the entense labor of rebuilding infrustructure and ratifying a Constitution begin. In this span, California and Colorado become new Provinces, and Kansas becomes a Protectorate.

2017: The reconstruction and organization of a New Arkanaland Military begins, called the Corporate Defence Initiative, or "C.D.I.," the People of Arkanaland are assured profusely that it is for all of Arkanaland...not merely Corporate Owned land.

2018: The first Divisions are organized and stationed throughout Arkanaland. Hollywood begins doing what it does best: Making movies, particularly documentaries about the formation of Arkanaland, and the fall of the U.S.
The C.C.E. makes itself known on the International Stage.
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Arkanaland:
Oklahoma, Kansas, New Mexico, Colorado, Arizona, California

Governing parties: C.C.E., United Tribal Nations of Oklahoma, respective provincial governments of New Mexico, California, Arizona, Kansas and Colorado

Military:

C.D.I, The ground forces of Arkanaland. So far C.D.I. is a small branch, consisting of little over Nine Divisions, with planned expansions of 39 Brigades under the direction of the United Tribes, along with the formation of more Divisions under direct control of C.D.I.

Airforce, the Airforce remains unorganized in part, although Fighters and Bombers that were captured during and after the collapse are used, untill newer models can be procured.

Navy, same as Airforce.


Research: Most of the Research being conducted by the C.C.E. is classified for Corporate and National Security reasons. Rumors about experiements captured at the facticious "Area 51" Airforce base are prevelent. A company called "ReJoov-Ination" has since purchased a large parcel of land within the fabled "Dreamland" exclusion zone. Speculators and conspiracy theorists believe the Company is involved in unmonitored genetics research. Some of this is proven true, as ReJoov-Ination has begun building Livestock Warehouses and Sluaghtering Facilities for their newest innovation to end world hunger: Six-Legged Chickens. Rumor also has it that ReJoov-Ination is studying the process of making Chimps, or even Hogs, grow as many as four livers other than their own - outside their body - for harvesting to stem the need for donor organs.

Animal Rights Activists cry foul.

OOC: Well, this is about all I can caonjure up for now. I hope the Genetics thing isn't too FT...I'm not goign to make a "Race of Super Soldiers," instead I may try the angle of "Super Race," that might just go horribly wrong (I'm going to use it as a catylist to create an FT Nation outside of Earth X, but would make a good Story-Line here). Not to mention, seeing six-legged chickens walk is kind of funny. Won't be on all weekend, by the way, seeing my girlfriend.
Kjata Major
20-08-2005, 09:58
Clarification of the Names of Kjata's Military Leaders:

General 5th class: General Minerva
General 4th class: General Masamune, General Muramasa
General 2nd class: General Raijin, General Hein
General 1st class: General Lina, General Enyo
Under-class: Commander Nike, Commander Victoria

Minerva is a Roman Goddess of the City, Education/Science, and War.
Masamune is a legendary sword maker and sword. Holy sword. Not bloodthirsty.
Muramasa is the student of Masamune, also sword is bloodthirsty
Raijin a literal translation from Japanese of Thunder and God. (Thunder God)
Hein froms from the Grim Reaper in Dutch, Magere Hein.
Lina: Arabic name meaning 'tender'
Enyo is a Greek Goddess of War (lesser)
Victoria is a Roman Goddess of Victory
Nike is the Greek Goddess of Victory

There are many many more, but this is just a general overview of the ones in current conflicts. For the names you can probably guess what the styles of combat they choose will be.

General Minerva: Power, surprise, technology, adaptabilty, tactics
General Masamune: Superior tactics and surprise
General Muramasa: Ultra-powerful weapons, bloody conflicts
General Raijin: Armored General, fast, powerful, deadly
General Hein: Illegal warfare, cruel, unexpected (Not in Earth X)
General Lina: Aerial power and kindness
General Enyo: Wise and cunning, tank and air superiority
Commander Nike: Lesbian twin of Victoria, Air power
Commander Victoria: Lesbian twin of Nike, Air power

Deaths for the Generals (Yes, they do die)

General Minerva: Dies in the Pykrete carrier, she curses the enemy before a missile strikes the top of the tower, she survives, but is driven mad. Suicidally triggers the ship to explode, creates massive waves and floods the enemy nation with water. Final words, "From Hell's heart I stab at thee! Now perish for your sins!" General decides to take the enemy with her.

General Muramasa: Dies in the heat of battle, stays like a soldier and fights to the end until he his shot to death and dies later on. Empowers the army to fight back with the 'Devil's Rage'.

General Masamune: Dies in the heat of battle, consumes his final breaths to kill enemies and issue commands to his officers. Masamune perishes and the army performs a suicidal attack on the enemy.

Raijin: Inside of his Tank Fortress, dies in the flames of the ship as he controls it. The fortress burns causing his troops to make a hasty retreat in fear of the leader being killed.

Hein: Dies from his own nuclear weapon soon after take-off. It is destroyed and he is crushed. The under-funded nuclear program he tries to run is his demise. Kjata Major leaders and generals have no idea it was going on.

Lina: Her massive transport carriers are attacked while in transit. She looks out on the world as her plane slowly goes down. Her final thoughts and message call off all attacks, sets up a peace conference. General was too 'kind' for war and dies quickly.

Enyo: Much in the shadow of Minerva, she goes out in a blaze of glory as to prove that she is every bit as capable as Minerva. Has a massive break down and her malfunctioning base falls in around her. Crushed by her overconfidence.

Nike and Victoria: They are constantly together and plan everything. Siblings and commanders of the forces, their plane is shot down. They embrace and realize that war is pointless. They die together.

(Unmentioned) Leo: Has a conflict with one of his officers about his tactics and the officer pulls out her diamond sword and spars with Leo right in the base. Leo's sword breaks and he is killed by his successor, Seif.

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That's a slight overview from the complete list.
Sharina
20-08-2005, 11:30
You a big Final Fantasy fan, Kjata? :p

I see several of your general names are either actual names, deriative names, or persona resembling Final Fantasy characters. ;)
Kjata Major
20-08-2005, 11:48
You a big Final Fantasy fan, Kjata? :p

I see several of your general names are either actual names, deriative names, or persona resembling Final Fantasy characters. ;)

You're talking to a level 75 RED MAGE. Of course I love FFXI. Just...I need a cable before I can get back on it. Stupid thunderstorm!

Raijin is also the name of FF8's Seifer sidekicks... basically. Least my name is true to name.

Muramasa and Masamune are swords, most notably FF7 and FFXI.

The rest have no resemblance. Except the origins. Final Fantasy has thousands upon thousands of name refrences and I did the same thing.

You play FFXI at all? It'd be nice to spar with someone who was actually capable of decent strats. and planning and know how to use the tunnel networks effectively.

(Good battles are seen in the episodes from this link: http://ffxi.killvoid.com/forums.php?m=posts&q=70600 Trailer is awesome btw. FFXI made movie, kinda inspired me to do....something that Hitler the Nazi will be VERY mad about in....3 days.)
Sharina
20-08-2005, 12:07
I don't have FF-XI but I do have FF I through FFX-2 (the sequel to FFX). I'm not sure whether I'd be interested in playing FF-XI, as I have had some bad experiences with online MMORPGS. I had several high level characters, and when I died several times due to lag problems, I ask guilds or alliances to help me recover my gear / equipment. Guess what? n00bs looted it and refused to give the stuff back. Needless to say, I was pissed. In addition, I'm stuck with a 56k dialup modem so I have lots of lag problems with online games. This may change when I get Comcast cable in a few weeks, though.


As for your characters, I'm going to post how these names fit in in FF (from what I know).

Minerva = good piece of armor in FFVI, I believe. May also be in FFVII (not sure).

Masamune = sword in FFIV, VII, and IX.

Muramasa = sword in FFIV. Not sure if its in VII or IX, I don't recall Muramasa, but rather, Masamune instead.

Raijin = Seifer's sidekick from FFVIII

Hein = General in the FF movie, "Spirits Within"

Lina = Not sure if this is a FF character. I do remember several females with "L" as first letter in their names in the FF series. Lina also reminds me of Nina and Mina from Breath of Fire series.

Enyo = This is apparently the only easily recongized non-FF name here.

Victoria = I think there was a character named Victoria somewhere in the FF series, not sure which game, though. Could have been a weapon, particularly a sword or spear.

Nike = Not sure about this one as well. Perhaps a character in FF Tactics.
Kjata Major
20-08-2005, 12:26
Minerva = good piece of armor in FFVI, I believe. May also be in FFVII (not sure).

Masamune = sword in FFIV, VII, and IX.

Muramasa = sword in FFIV. Not sure if its in VII or IX, I don't recall Muramasa, but rather, Masamune instead.

Raijin = Seifer's sidekick from FFVIII

Hein = General in the FF movie, "Spirits Within"

Lina = Not sure if this is a FF character. I do remember several females with "L" as first letter in their names in the FF series. Lina also reminds me of Nina and Mina from Breath of Fire series.

Enyo = This is apparently the only easily recongized non-FF name here.

Victoria = I think there was a character named Victoria somewhere in the FF series, not sure which game, though. Could have been a weapon, particularly a sword or spear.

Nike = Not sure about this one as well. Perhaps a character in FF Tactics.

Here's what I found:

Minerva Armor: The Roman name for Athena, the Greek goddess of war and wisdom.

Murasame: The characters are "town" (mura) and "rain" (ame). Murasame is used to define a rain that rains in small area. (Sometimes quick rain) Thus, it could mean Murasame can cause "quick blood rain". (And in some stories, Murasame is cursed. Though the leaves floating down the river will avoid the Masamune, they float right into the Murasame and get split in two.) Hiro2k elaborates: "Murasame was a swordsmith like Masamune long ago in Japan. His swords were famed for the 'bloodlust' they supposedly created in those who wielded them. One day, Murasame challenged Masamune to a competition, to prove who was the better swordsmith. He placed his finest blade into a slow-moving stream; soon after, a leaf floated slowly into the edge of the blade, and was sliced, quietly and easily, into two pieces. Afterwards, Masamune placed his blade into the same stream. He soon proved that he was the better swordsmith, as leaves seemed to avoid his blade; a proof of its holy power."
However, Aelfwine writes: "There are stories of a swordsmith named Senzo Muramasa who was supposedly an insane, but brilliant, student of Masamune, and that his swords would cause unnecessary bloodshed (Ratti, Oscar and Adele Westbrook, Secrets of the Samurai. Castle books, 1999). However, I find no mention of anyone by the name of Murasame." Okita Souji adds that the "curse" of the sword was that it had brought misfortune to the ruling Tokugawa family. Also, "some people who had the swords would erase part of the name of the swordsmith the Mura or the Masa and felt at ease at doing so to avoid any misfortune."
The saga continues, though: Starzander writes: "Although I did check it out a bit and what I know is that there was no swordsmith named Murasame, it was only an imagined sword in the novel Nanso Satomi Hakkenden which was written in the 19th century by Takizawa Bakin (Kyokutei Bakin). It was a story about eight warriors that were named dogs... or something like that... check this webpage, or others."

The Japanese sword Masamune: One explanation is that there was a feudal lord named "Masamune Date" (Date (da-te) is the family name) who ruled Rikuzen (area near Sendai) around the early 1600's. He lost one of his eyes due to sickness in childhood, and he was nicknamed "Dokuganryuu Masamune" (Masamune, the one eyed dragon). Another story says that there was a blacksmith named "Masamune", and his sword was so sharp that you could drive it into the ground in a lake, and leaves that floated by would float around the Masamune due to its holy power.
Nate writes that Masamune is actually the name of a Japanese swordsmith from the 11th-12th centuries; the weapons are in display in museums. It's quite possible that the swordsmith's name is based on the legends. Dead_Duck confirms that "Masamune" refers to swords crafted by Goro Nyudo Masamune (around 1265-1358), one of the most famous Japanese swordsmiths.
Yet another piece of info, from Jordan Gruchy: "According to Japanese legend, the Masamune blade was the most powerful sword in all the world. When piercing the flesh, it would shed no blood, as the Masamune was not "bloodthirsty", which explains why no blood was shed when Sephiroth killed Aeris in FF7.

All I got. Though I know of many many items, monsters and bosses that all have refrences to other things.

Anime, manga, video-games, all JP stuff seems to have wierd links. Like in FMA, the alchemists have names all after WWII equipment. Mustang is one of the clearly seen ones. Most are planes with the exception of Bradley. Its pretty weird, but its fun an sometimes educational on who and what the characters are at heart!
Arkanaland
21-08-2005, 06:06
OOC: Ugh, sorry, I posted on my other Nation...blegh...how embarrassing.

IC:

C.C.E. National News Network

Today, the C.C.E. Council has obtained the production rights of the MMPWV, a personnel transport similar to that of the HMMWV, which it is destined to replace. It offers a higher level of surviviability of Crew and Vehicle, with higher performance that doesn't lessen the adaptability of the Vehicle.

Two production facilities are to be built by June of next year, which will supply the C.D.I. forces with MMPWVs. The facilities, their locations indisclosed, will churn out between 112-150 units per day, between the two of them, thanks to extreme automation.

The complete phase-out of the HMMWV in the C.D.I. will begin in early 2013. Untill then, they will serve patrols in urban areas and borderlands. As well as recon and light escort missions.
Czechoslovakia-
21-08-2005, 19:13
OOC: Bumpty bump. 2 days to go...

The Priemer of Czechoslovakia informs the Confederation of Yderia that it's leader's ideas and add ons to the charter will be made later, once the charter is also signed by Helnacht, Lachenburg, and Rodenka.

In other news, military activity in Czechoslovakia has increased to alert status. No doubt, they are planning to conquer some new, squabbling land. Where is unknown, but it will happen.

OOC: Grah... losing... interest... must... stay... exciting...
Sharina
21-08-2005, 19:24
"This is Kasina Lusvan, reporting for SIEIN, Sharina's top quality source of information of current events.

Today's top story is the mobilization of the Sharinan Defense Forces.

According to President Mina Veristek, the Sharinan Defense Forces have begun amassing along the Uruguayan border. Similiar troop mobilizations are occurring along the conventional Sharinan borders with Western Brazil. President Mina Veristek had this to say.

'We must reunite our brothers and sisters in Western Brazil and Uruguay. It is Sharina's destiny to unify South America into a powerful and cohesive nation to face the uncertain future the world is facing. We must stand united, not divided as it is now, or Humanity will collapse, to be replaced by animals of the wild.'

It is expected that these mobilizations will be completed within the next several weeks. We will bring you more as the situation develops.

Now onto other news..."
Czechoslovakia-
22-08-2005, 04:21
OOC: Bump.
Mauiwowee
22-08-2005, 04:24
King Rox read the report - it was all good. With the oil coming in from Texarkania the factories were up and running full speed and the economy was getting back on track. Better yet he could run the military. The new Dingo aircraft were outstanding and being built as fast as possible. Ferrets were also being built and the army was almost fully equipped and ready - time to begin the re-unification of Australia. Keep the Navy building, but get the army and airforce up to speed faster - they were needed more than the navy was at this point in time.
Kjata Major
22-08-2005, 10:23
Kjatan Troops Prepare for War!

The entire Kjatan army is undergoing a complete reform under the gaze of General Minerva. Thousands of merchant ships bring in materials to Japan from all over Kjata Major.

Thousands upon thousands B-52 bombers have been seen flying over the skies of Kjata, performing conventional bombing runs.

Sightings of KRPG have been seen. A scaled up version of the RPG that is capable of destroying larger targets with more force.

Naval warships like the speedy Bora-class are being produced in the many Naval yards. General Minerva has ordered 300 of these light vessels. At least 150 will be delivered before the opening of the war.

A mixture of F/A-22's have been seen flying with recent low-tech cheap fighter/bombers like MiG-15. This means really one thing, Kjata Major needs more planes. Thousands upon thousands of the cheap MiG-15 have been already produced. They expect the number to rise to 20,000 planes before the start of the war. B-52's remain in only 2,000s. Given the short range of the MiG-15 it hints at General Minerva's plans.

Naval Battleships are being completed already, though the number is a mere 12 battleships, a far cry from General Minerva's 26 that was wanted.
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To: Hitler the Nazi
From: General Minerva

Surrender North Korea and South Korea to me or else we will go to war! Your presence is a threat in Asia. We will remove you by force if we have to. Immediately Korea to Kjata or face destruction.
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OOC: Ya its not a reason, but I been saying this for two weeks I'd bomb and attack him. He's had ample time to repair yet has posted nothing. So it might be just considered open. Gonna TG him though.
Texarkania
22-08-2005, 13:56
All was well in Texarkania - R. J. Hewing had been dispatched to the conference regarding alliances in the Americas, the oil was flowing. Iron and steel were coming in from Mauiwowee. The naval yard was building a navy and the airforce and army were in top condition. Tanks and APV's were needed, but they were being built - the border was holding thanks to the massive troop strength along it. The High speed rail project was humming with the major southern leg out of El Paso connected now. The push would be large, sudden and major when it happened and likely a surprise to their neighbors to the north.
Kjata Major
23-08-2005, 01:15
Kjata Major Declares War on Hitler the Nazi!

Thousands of bombers were already in the skies when Kjata announced to the world on television that Hitler the Nazi has been oppressing the people of Korea and will they will be freed from the current situation of the Western Oppressor. This cry was for Hitler the Nazi's lack of interest into fix the acquired lands after WWIII, with Kjata Major's imperalism spurring the nation forward they expect to have a complete victory over Korea in days.

Places that have been set to be bombed:

Pusan
Ulsan
Yosu
Masau
Dokdo
Ullung-do
P'ohang

The bombers will arrive over the designated targets. The B-52 flying fortresses are meeting up with a small amount of F/A-22 to protect them during the operation.
Sharina
23-08-2005, 02:51
OOC:

I assume the invasions are now allowed? If so, I'll post something tonight. :)
Texarkania
23-08-2005, 05:41
President Vargas looked at the final reports - the time was now or never. He picked up the telephone and punched in a few numbers - "NOW!" he said. With that, other phones were dialed and signals broadcast. Within an hour the full scale invasion had begun.

First, seemingly innocent barges suddenly swung toward shore in Blytheville, West Memphis and Helena, Arkansas and over 30,000 troops began to unload at each location - fully armed and equipped - it was ground war. 4 Barges slammed the bridges in Memphis and Blytheville causing them to collapse - no help from Tennessee coming this way - Sardukarr was cut off, even if he wanted to do something.

At, more or less, the same time, 25,000 soldiers began making their way from Tallulah up to Lake Village and headed for McGhee, Dumas and eventually Pine Bluff. 50,000 strong headed out of Monroe towards El Dorado with Arkadelphia and control of I-30 in their minds. Each of these two groups had 50 (approx.) tanks at their disposal and a good 22 Appache helicopter gunships.

Then the airwar began. 55 F/18's headed to Little Rock (actually, Jacksonville) to take care of the airbase there and hopefully grab a C-130 or so with the 1,500 special forces that would be dropped. Another group of F/22A raptors, 3 B-1 bombers and 30 F/35 strike fighters headed up to Fort Smith to take out the 188th airwing or what might remain of it. Another 40,000 troops with heavy artillery support headed into Texarkana from the Red River army depot.

It was Blitzkreig time in Arkansas! Who could stop it now?

Meanwhile, in El Paso and Laredo, over 300,000 troops began to spill across the border into Mexico and the few war ships Texarkania had left Galveston headed to Mexico in a show of force. It was a two front war, but one President Vargas had long been preparing for with his high speed rail system and his airforce and troops - best of all, he had the oil to supply his military's needs, something most people who might oppose him didn't have.
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::: Encrypted Message :::

To: Arkanland and Sardukar
From: Texarkania
Re: Military action

You will have noticed by now my invasion of the former state of Arkansas. Please stay out of the way or risk harm to your citizens. We have no quarrel with you and wish to keep it that way. However, Arkansas is hereby declared a state of Texarkania and and as soon as we finish "convincing" it's citizens that the annexation and conquest is for real, we will be moving troops, supplies, etc. into Arkansas. We wish peace with our neighbors who have shown the ability to unite areas of the former U.S. in these troubled times, but we will not tolerate interference in Arkansas.

Sincerely,
President Vargas,
Texarkania
Arkanaland
23-08-2005, 15:19
C.C.E National News

Texarkania has officially released a request that neither of the two remaining Nations interfere with their invasion; which began just days ago in the former state of Arkansas.

The C.C.E. expressed no intent on intervening, however patrols have been stepped up along Arkanaland borderlands, featuring the newest addition to the Arkanaland C.D.I Forces: MMPWV.

"Additional Patrols are being sent to the Borderlands, for ensure the safety of Arkanaland civilians, as there is sure to be an influx of refugees, illegal or otherwise, escaping the annexation. we will take in those that will be useful, however, the illegal refugees will be allowed to travel elsewhere, using Arkanaland as nothing more than a way station."


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to: Texarkania
from: C.C.E. Council
Arkanaland, 74868
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

We hear your request and respect it. Our forces will not intervene, but we will not suffer a casualty of any of our Civilians. Arkansas is painfully close to Oklahoma - please respect our borders.

Other than that, we wish you luck in your expansion, and hope it goes over smoothly.


OOC: Hmm, I guess we'll have to hold that "Aftermath Conference" on our own, still no word from the other fellow.
Kjata Major
23-08-2005, 16:16
OOC: I TGed Hitler the Nazi but no response yet.
Yderia
23-08-2005, 17:14
My....."factbook"....at last. Its the only one i cud actually figure out how to work!


http://www.freewebs.com/yderian_military_inventory/
Kjata Major
23-08-2005, 18:03
Not bad, but the limits are crushing. ;-;
Yderia
23-08-2005, 18:07
Not bad, but the limits are crushing. ;-;
Awk its not that bad!
Kjata Major
23-08-2005, 18:13
50 page maximum in your site.

That is barely able to cover a good factbook in website format. Learn how to use NSwiki ok? Its good cause you can link to other topics for a nice system.
Yderia
23-08-2005, 20:21
50pgs! When am i gonna need 50pgs! I got everything covered in less than 10 lol! Have we actaully started yet? And im useless at NSwiki!
Kjata Major
23-08-2005, 20:34
50pgs! When am i gonna need 50pgs! I got everything covered in less than 10 lol! Have we actaully started yet? And im useless at NSwiki!

Yes the 'war' time has started.

When you learn that you want a page for every tech, info and side thing it can really add up. Freewebs is horrible about space to. That's why I dropped it.
Sharina
23-08-2005, 21:20
"This is Kasina Lusvan, reporting for SIEIN, Sharina's top source of all information on current events.

Our top story is the Sharinan re-unification efforts aganist the remainder of Brazil not under Sharinan control.

Last week, Sharinan troops have begun launching multiple attacks aganist the warlords and rogues based in Western Brazil. These warlords have been quickly overrun, owing to poor training, lack of dependable equipment, and limited supplies. The warlords have little to no anti-aircraft defenses, ensuring a quick Sharina victory in the air. Sharina has been able to bomb and undertake missions aganist these Brazilian warlords with impunity, inflicting even further losses upon them while greatly reducing potential Sharinan casaulties.

Sharinan forces have reached the ruins of Brasilia, the old capital of Brazil late yesterday night. They have also cleared virtually all warlord activity on the Amazon River, which should aid immensely in shipping operations in the Amazon. With the warlords gone from the Amazon, Sharina cargo ships will be able to traverse the Amazon easily, finally providing the necessary means to re-build Western Brazil after the last remaining warlords in the jungle and city ruins are dealt with.

In related news, Sharinan forces have crossed over into Uruguay three days ago, and the Uruguyans have put up a much more organized resistance than the warlords in western Brazil. This has bogged down Sharinan efforts considerably, even though the area being invaded is significantly smaller than western Brazil. The Uruguayan army is operating as a cohesive unit, unlike the pirates, cut-throats, grunts, and so forth in western Brazil. In addition, the Uruguayans have much better logistics and supply base established.

Despite these factors, Sharinan forces have steadily progressed into Uruguay. Sharina's air force has eliminated all Uruguayan aircraft and anti-aircraft defenses, as Uruguay's equipment dates back to the 1970's and 1980's, basically obsolete compared to Sharina's S-22 jets. This will allow Sharina to strike Uruguayan targets at will in the upcoming several weeks.

We will bring you more news as it develops. Now onto other news..."
Kjata Major
25-08-2005, 01:47
OOC: OMG...WTF is with Hitler the Nazi and everyone else. Why is no one posting anything now?
Mauiwowee
25-08-2005, 01:54
Woooosshhh! rat-a-tat-tat
"duck!"
"INCOMING!!!"
"OH FUCK!!"
"AAAHHHH - My leg, my leg!!!"
"Fire at will boys"
"Get those Ferrets in there"
"Where the hell are those Dingos?"
"Watch it, they'll be holed up in their"
"Spread Out men - Watch for snipers"
"Move, Move, MOVE!!"
whompa-whompa-whompa - "bout time the damn choppers showed up"

The Invasion of Queensland had begun - target, Brisbane
Kjata Major
25-08-2005, 01:59
OOC: O.O What the....how's that possible? It's like a children's book of warfare, except for the swears. We need our enemies back in this thread. Any ideas, Hitler doesn't respond to TG's or anything.
Arkanaland
25-08-2005, 02:13
OOC: Well, I'm going to begin expansion rather soon. Inf act, I had a good post written up, but then the Boards fucked me over. But it's all gravy, I'm starting it again. Just in a seperate thread. This thread's kidn of cluttered for big posts.
Mauiwowee
25-08-2005, 03:34
OOC: O.O What the....how's that possible? It's like a children's book of warfare, except for the swears. We need our enemies back in this thread. Any ideas, Hitler doesn't respond to TG's or anything.

I'm just setting up the fact an invasion has begun and some fighting is going on. I've not claimed or done anymore than that - we're shooting and they're shooting back.
Texarkania
25-08-2005, 03:36
OOC: Well, I'm going to begin expansion rather soon. Inf act, I had a good post written up, but then the Boards fucked me over. But it's all gravy, I'm starting it again. Just in a seperate thread. This thread's kidn of cluttered for big posts.

Hey, let's do our conference bit without the others. I'm going to post something.
Kjata Major
26-08-2005, 00:28
OOC: Well, I'm going to begin expansion rather soon. Inf act, I had a good post written up, but then the Boards fucked me over. But it's all gravy, I'm starting it again. Just in a seperate thread. This thread's kidn of cluttered for big posts.


True....

Hitler replied....but is doing nothing again.
Arkanaland
26-08-2005, 00:58
OOC: Oh, and by the way, here's a link to my invasion,
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440090
Kjata Major
26-08-2005, 01:04
OOC: Oh, and by the way, here's a link to my invasion,
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=440090

Sweet, I seen it before looks nice. I might have to invade to the south and west if Hitler doesn't do something soon.
Arkanaland
26-08-2005, 01:19
Thank you. :) It's my first war "story," as I should call it. Well, for properiety's sake, I'd wait over the weekend. Some people are probably pretty busy with work and all. Or if he's just being lazy, and is actually able to retaliate, I'd have at it. :P
Kjata Major
26-08-2005, 01:23
I call it an insult to be ignored when you know damn well the person is on and you have been trying to get this going for two whole weeks.
Arkanaland
26-08-2005, 01:25
Yeah, I'd be insulted as well. There should've been provisions for this in the rules, haha.
Texarkania
26-08-2005, 06:00
Conroe exited the tank's top hatch and looked up the highway - I-30 was clear as far as he could make out with his naked eyes. The prisoner seemed to be telling the truth - Texarkana's men had seen the mobilization at the Red River Depot and pulled back to get ready for a counter offensive - most likely somewhere around Hope where they could pull in the people from Nashville and even Magnolia Arkansas. So be it thought the major - he gave the signal, and the troops and their support vehicles, like his, began to roll into Arkansas, looking for the resistance as the Engineers began to reshape the city into a fall back, defensive hold out should the worst come to pass.
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Colonel Glenderson looked at his screen - nothing, it had been a surprise, hot damn! "men - we're clear, you know what to do, squad by squad" He swung his F/35 low and went in over the field in Fort Smith - Damn he thought "Nothing here, something's wrong, where are the friggin' planes? Surely they had some of the F-18's left." Speaking again into his mike - men, something's not right here, take out the field so they can't use it as per the plan, but be on the watch out - We're missing some targets, but the air is clear."
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Lt. Colonel Henderson had been the first to spot the invaders - "Holy cow - General Markson was right." he thought. "Good thing we pulled the 188th out of Fort Smith - We're gonna need them here to save the C-130's and - Holy shit!!, wtf?" Keying the mike he spoke hurriedly - "Ground, this squad leader Red 1 - Texarkania's incoming spotted, preparing to engage, but, damn it - I see chutes - they're dropping men in Sherwood. Mobilize Camp Robinson, and I mean NOW!"
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"That was easy, too easy" thought the Major - 'surely the people in Helana were better than that." Then he thought again . . . "well, it was Helena - last bastion of corruption under the old system, god only knows what had happened with the collapse of the Federal Goverment and the loss of money steered here by Senator Lincoln in the late 2000's."
Encountering no resistance, Texarkania's Eastern Army slowly began the advance into Helena proper, only to find the town all but completely empty - what the hell was going on here?
Czechoslovakia-
26-08-2005, 07:39
OOC: I'm very sorry about this guys... but it seems I lost interest in this. Maybe it was because of the sign-ups... maybe because I've discovered another RP Forum I absolutely love, I'm not sure.

But again, I'm VERY sorry about this, and I'm afraid I'm going to have to pull out of my own Earth. Kjata Major is officially god in this Earth, and he can do whatever the hell he likes with it, and I wish him luck.

Once more, I'm deeply sorry about this guys, but my decision is final... have fun.
Teymor
28-08-2005, 14:09
The Emperor Stared Across The Plains Of His Country. Mobilizing Tanks. Fueling Planes. Excercising troops. All were happening in his country. With only one goal in mind... The Unification of China... The Anarchy Of WW3 was far from over. Most of the US Was Still in turmoil. Minor Factions Were rising in Africa. Soon, China would be united, The World Repaired. Defuniak Had no Allies, But Many Enemies. China Would be his.
Teymor
28-08-2005, 14:10
Dang it! Sorry! I'm Defuniaks Puppet so you know. I accidently logged in as him to post that!
Defuniak
28-08-2005, 23:36
I Ackknowladge. Teymor is my puppet! sry!
Kjata Major
28-08-2005, 23:59
OOC: I'm very sorry about this guys... but it seems I lost interest in this. Maybe it was because of the sign-ups... maybe because I've discovered another RP Forum I absolutely love, I'm not sure.

But again, I'm VERY sorry about this, and I'm afraid I'm going to have to pull out of my own Earth. Kjata Major is officially god in this Earth, and he can do whatever the hell he likes with it, and I wish him luck.

Once more, I'm deeply sorry about this guys, but my decision is final... have fun.

Well....who couldn't see this coming raise your hand!
Defuniak
29-08-2005, 13:22
*bows towards kjata major* alllllllllllllllllll hailllllllllllllllllllllllll





BTW, We need maps! I need to find out who has the rest of china!
Sharina
29-08-2005, 19:04
OOC:

So this is dead then? :(
Kjata Major
29-08-2005, 19:16
I'll try to do maps and run this myself since its come to be like this, ok?

I'll make a new thread if you want for it.
Defuniak
31-08-2005, 21:49
Well, What can i do?
Kjata Major
31-08-2005, 21:54
Want to color the map?
Defuniak
01-09-2005, 01:14
All I have is microsoft Paint Soooooo.......
Kjata Major
01-09-2005, 01:18
paint is fine....trust me :)
Defuniak
01-09-2005, 22:00
Ok. Give me a linky and a list of claims and i'm on it.