Holy Republic of Hawdawg studies new SuperBomber [Earth II]
Hawdawg Headline News
(HNN)
Stockholm, Sweden
"It was announced today the DOD is researching the fesability of constructing a new Superbomber to replace the aging B-52J and B-1B Fleet. The Research and Development Department has already narrowed the selection of the Engine down to two choices: The GP7200, a Pratt & Whittney/GE joint venture and the Rolls Royce Trent 900. Both of these motors currently power the Super Jet the A380 Airbus. The impressive GP7200 is certified at 81,000 pounds of thrust while the Trent 900 is certified to 76,000 pounds of thrust. Insiders say this new concept plane will require at least six of these hefty powerplants. The DOD is asking for the concept plane to be able to carry 150,000 pounds of ordinance, double the capacity of the B-52J. The Air frame is expected to handle all ordinance in internal bays, and meet an expected cruising speed of 1.25-1.50 Mach with a ceiling of around 60,000-70,000 feet. This is a massive research project and engineers are expected to have a mock up ready for wind tunnel testing within the year."
Layarteb
10-08-2005, 21:12
OOC: Hmm I wonder...
Dude can I just recommend taking the B-1B and giving it B-1A performance? It would be the B-1C Lancer. I have a proposal for it, if you like.
OOC:
I will take a look at your proposal. If you don't mind. Upgrading the B-1 is definitely an option. I think I am also going to bring the B-70 Valkyrie back into service. Give it an avionics upgrade, radar, etc. and engine refit with the Rolls or GE model. I can stretch the planes dimensions and up the bomb load close to 60,000 lbs.
From what I read they had trouble with high speed low level flights, this is something that can be corrected with todays tech.
-Hawdawg
Layarteb
11-08-2005, 04:14
OOC:
I will take a look at your proposal. If you don't mind. Upgrading the B-1 is definitely an option. I think I am also going to bring the B-70 Valkyrie back into service. Give it an avionics upgrade, radar, etc. and engine refit with the Rolls or GE model. I can stretch the planes dimensions and up the bomb load close to 60,000 lbs.
From what I read they had trouble with high speed low level flights, this is something that can be corrected with todays tech.
-Hawdawg
Well the XB-70A-2 corrected all of the problems with the XB-70A-1, including the M2.5 limit. The A-2 beat all the records and everything but that damn photo-op ruined it. I have a B-70B in my inventory too but they cost $5B each. Keep in mind a B-70 in today's standards is VERY expensive.
Telegram me your email addy and I'll send you the B-1C.
B-70B Valkyrie II
With the incorporation of new composite materials directly related to the development of the B-2 Spirit Bombers, the B-70B Valkyrie II was reborn. A number of highly classified composite materials were blended together with high temperature polymers to aide in the development of a large portion of the surface area of the plane. The honeycomb construction techniques pioneered with the original design were not forgotten and were built into the new design using our special lightweight materials. The lighter materials have allowed us to shave 33,000 pounds from the original design. The original titanium nosecone configuration was maintained. Major trouble arose with the original design in high speed low-level flight. This instability was resolved with our new gyro-stabilizing CPU and adjusted angles of the front canards. The ability of this airframe to “ride the shockwave” to increase airspeed is unique. The folding wingtips oscillate downward 65 degrees to increase compression lift and provide greater direction stability. Through our extensive testing regular sustained speeds of Mach 3.0 have been reached and allow us to close on a target and engage it with unparalleled speed. This aircraft is truly one of a kind and is a must have for any Air Force. The Valkyrie carries its ordinance load in three internal bays directly behind the crew compartment. The Bomb pods have a unique ejection mechanism that jettisons all Bombs clear of the fuselage. This system ensures the air intakes remain clear of any possible contaminants that might jettison with the bomb load. Most people would be concerned with the large heat signature this airplane produces, thinking it would be easy to shoot down with conventional AIM or SAM batteries. We have addressed this threat with three Countermeasure systems. The AN/ALQ-204 Matador Infared Countermeasure Suite (IRCM) and the AN/AAQ-24(V) Nemesis Directional Infared Countermeasure (DIRCM) utilizes the latest in Open-Loop LAIRCM systems to combat IR and IIR missiles. These two systems have been proven against no less than 35 missile systems and the unique IR-Xenon Arc Lamp in the DIRCM system is proven itself many times in close-quarters combat. Realizing the Open-loop system makes missiles or potential threats wobble but not necessarily break a lock, we have developed a new Close-Loop ICRM System for use in this aircraft. The "AJAX" CLICRM system utilizes the LIFE Laser system to determine missile type, fire a directed custom jam code to that missile. This jam code cases the missile to disengage and veer sharply to the right or left of the airframe. This entire sequence takes place with 2-3 seconds, allowing the AJAX system to engage multiple inbound threats.
Specifications:
Crew: 4 (Pilot Co-Pilot, ECM Weapons Officer, Navigation/Offensive Weapons Officer)
Engines: (6) F101-GE-102 Generation II max thrust per engine 30,780 lbs.
Length: 210 feet 4 inches
Height: 30 feet 8 inches
Wingspan: 125 feet
Wing Area: 7496 sq. ft.
Empty Weight: 198,345 lbs.
Maximum Loaded Weight: 534,792
Maximum Speed:3.1 Mach
Cruising Speed: 3.0 Mach
Combat Range: 4017 miles
Maximum Range: 5038 miles
Bomb Load: 36,000 lbs.
Ceiling: 77,350 feet
Avionics:
Multiple HUD Displays for both Pilot and Co-Pilot
Integrated LINK 16 system provides Line of Sight (LOS) capability
Beyond Line of Site SATCOM Data Links
Global Positioning System Navigation with Precision Munitions upgrade
AN/ALR-56M Radar Warning Receiver
AN/ALQ-204 'MATADOR' Infared Countermeasure (IRCM) Suite
AN/AAQ-24(V) 'NEMESIS' Directional Infared Countermeasure (DIRCM) Suite
AN/AAL-452 'AJAX' Closed Loop (ICRM) Suite
Ultraviolet Missile Early Warning System (UV MWS)
Fine Track Sensor (FTS) Suite
Upgraded Synthetic Aperture Radar with one foot Resolution capabilities
Type II multiple target tracking interface/engagement Processor
Integrated FLIR capabilities
Integrated LOSAT Suite
Possible Bomb Loads:
(72) Mk82, (20) JDAM, (25) WCMD, (10) GBU-27, (10) AGM-154 JSOW, (25) CBU-87, (25) CBU-89, (25) CBU-97, (10) Mk65
Projected Construction Costs (Prototype): 7.8 Billion
Subsequent Construction Costs (per 50 ordered): 5.5 Billion
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Layarteb
12-08-2005, 15:01
Awesome stuff. Haw remember the XB-70 had a massive RCS and IRCS. I hope you installed some good jammers, both IR and radar. Hell man an AIM-9B could track this suck at 10 miles away those engines put out such a IR signature. That's what I did with my B-70B.
Awesome stuff. Haw remember the XB-70 had a massive RCS and IRCS. I hope you installed some good jammers, both IR and radar. Hell man an AIM-9B could track this suck at 10 miles away those engines put out such a IR signature. That's what I did with my B-70B.
OOC:
I still haven't finished all the ECM stuff, I am waiting on a response from an asssociate of mine at GE. I think I have a cooling system for jet wash figured out that will assist in disguising most of the heat trail this big bird leaves. I am also working with some information I found last night dealing with the use of electrogravity fields to counteract several issues. I am going to meet my wife today and won't post anything else until monday. Once I get all the R&D done I will contract for limited sales.
-Hawdawg
Layarteb
13-08-2005, 02:16
OOC:
I still haven't finished all the ECM stuff, I am waiting on a response from an asssociate of mine at GE. I think I have a cooling system for jet wash figured out that will assist in disguising most of the heat trail this big bird leaves. I am also working with some information I found last night dealing with the use of electrogravity fields to counteract several issues. I am going to meet my wife today and won't post anything else until monday. Once I get all the R&D done I will contract for limited sales.
-Hawdawg
It's tough to mask that IR signature, those engines put out a lot of heat but I'm game. Also that electrogravity thing, very expensive, and they require a VERY big power source.
Layarteb
15-08-2005, 01:07
Haw would you be willing to let me buy 2 to test my MIM-188 Crow against it?
You can have 3 to test for the price of two. We built 5 protypes to utilize, this would leave me with 2 for my own studies. Just let me know what the results are. The closed-loop system is the latest Tech. the Airforce has for IIR IR jamming, if it doesn't work against the missile battery, we will have to come up with another system, but I think a system more advanced than what I have come up with would be PMT.
-Hawdawg
Layarteb
15-08-2005, 01:41
You can have 3 to test for the price of two. We built 5 protypes to utilize, this would leave me with 2 for my own studies. Just let me know what the results are. The closed-loop system is the latest Tech. the Airforce has for IIR IR jamming, if it doesn't work against the missile battery, we will have to come up with another system, but I think a system more advanced than what I have come up with would be PMT.
-Hawdawg
The MIM-188 is a Mach 6 missile with hit-to-kill and a 300 lb. BF for the conventional variant. It's 3 stages with a ceiling between 80 and 250,000 feet with a range of 1 to 350 miles. It lofts to 120,000 feet and dives down and is guided by Active X-Band Radar, Imaging Infrared, Passive Seeker, Anti-Stealth Uplink, Datalink, and MMW. GEL fueled, the MIM-188 is capable of +65 G's. I think I won't have a problem intercepting from a head-on and even from a tail-end.
The MIM-188 is a Mach 6 missile with hit-to-kill and a 300 lb. BF for the conventional variant. It's 3 stages with a ceiling between 80 and 250,000 feet with a range of 1 to 350 miles. It lofts to 120,000 feet and dives down and is guided by Active X-Band Radar, Imaging Infrared, Passive Seeker, Anti-Stealth Uplink, Datalink, and MMW. GEL fueled, the MIM-188 is capable of +65 G's. I think I won't have a problem intercepting from a head-on and even from a tail-end.
Well that is why I put three ECM systems on the plane. The more the merrier. The ECM pods for both the Nemesis and Ajax systems rotate to engage inbounds. The trouble would be the "diving" missile. I just might have to avoid flying in your airspace or send an AntiRadar missile into the site, once the tracking system is activated.
Lets just say for a moment the plane isn't hit by the test missiles, I would be willing to sign an agreement with EOL and the October Alliance that export versions (except certain chosen states: mainly EOL, NG, and Cotland) of the Valkryie II would be stripped of the Closed-loop AJAX system. By eliminating the newest ECM technology the aircraft would be very hitable by most advanced IIR systems. Keep this in mind as you test. A friendly non-agression pact between states if you will. Think it over.
I also see the MIM-188 isn't offered in your storefront, which means that other nations with the acception of OA members wouldn't have access to the missile battery. Am I wrong?
-Hawdawg
Layarteb
15-08-2005, 02:28
Well that is why I put three ECM systems on the plane. The more the merrier. The ECM pods for both the Nemesis and Ajax systems rotate to engage inbounds. The trouble would be the "diving" missile. I just might have to avoid flying in your airspace or send an AntiRadar missile into the site, once the tracking system is activated.
Lets just say for a moment the plane isn't hit by the test missiles, I would be willing to sign an agreement with EOL and the October Alliance that export versions (except certain chosen states: mainly EOL, NG, and Cotland) of the Valkryie II would be stripped of the Closed-loop AJAX system. By eliminating the newest ECM technology the aircraft would be very hitable by most advanced IIR systems. Keep this in mind as you test. A friendly non-agression pact between states if you will. Think it over.
I also see the MIM-188 isn't offered in your storefront, which means that other nations with the acception of OA members wouldn't have access to the missile battery. Am I wrong?
-Hawdawg
The Crow is non-export period, not even to the OA. The active-radar is powerful too and that is why it carriers the data-link and the uplink. The data-link can have an AWACS guide it to the target, which works. There's the passive seeker, which picks up radar emissions. Lastly that uplink is hot, guided by ground radar, the anti-stealth system.
The Crow is non-export period, not even to the OA. The active-radar is powerful too and that is why it carriers the data-link and the uplink. The data-link can have an AWACS guide it to the target, which works. There's the passive seeker, which picks up radar emissions. Lastly that uplink is hot, guided by ground radar, the anti-stealth system.
So from what am seeing mutliple ways of tracking from ground based, to AWACS, to passive/active systems on board the missile itself. Triple redunancy for added chance of intercept. Very nice indeed.
Layarteb
15-08-2005, 02:53
So from what am seeing mutliple ways of tracking from ground based, to AWACS, to passive/active systems on board the missile itself. Triple redunancy for added chance of intercept. Very nice indeed.
I took, more or less, the Patriot and its capabilities, the capabilities of some other weapons, and the like. The radar comes from the AMRAAM so it lets you know its there when it is terminal, when it's already too late. The IIR is for better tracking and no warnings. The passive seeker was added to counter high-flying, fast bombers and fighters, as well as taking out AWACS. The datalink also comes from the AIM-120D and allows the AWACS to guide it to the target, allowing the shooter to remain hidden. The MMW couples with the IIR to provide anti-surface capability. The PAC-1 could take out ground targets and so can the Crow. The anti-stealth uplink is just a thing I put on all my surface-to-air missiles.
The Crow has 3 versions, the conventional one I described, a nuclear one with a 175 kiloton warhead, and another nuclear one with a 1 megaton warhead. The 175 kiloton warhead has a blast radius of 2.55 miles and the 1 megaton one has a blast radius of 4.47 miles. The nuclear ones are for missile spam coming at me and massive bomber formations.
It's a three-stage missile too and the launcher is quite unique. Imagine a Gatling-gun set-up, mounted on a trailer. This way you have 7 tubes linked in a circle, each tube with a missile. The launcher rotates around for rapid-firing, if necessary. Once the rocket motor fires, the locking clamps hold the missile for a few seconds, until the motor throttles up to full, and then releases it, it moving away at some serious speed.
Maximum range against aircraft is 350 miles and against ground targets is 375 miles. Ground targets means that it is optimized, more or less, for anti-ship use but it can be used to take out other targets within range.
Keep that system off the market! That is as close to an impeneratable system as I have seen. If you do ever decide to sell them let me know. And if this war breaks out feel free to station a site or two on the Shetlands and our northern border.
-Hawdawg
As we are currently upgrading our Armed forces, we are interested in knowing the final result of your studies.
Layarteb
15-08-2005, 19:09
Indeed Hawdawg, there's no way I'm exporting that SOB. My AABMS system, which is like that for anti-ballistic missile defense, has, thus far, only been sold to Cotland and I think NG.
I purchased an anti ballistic system from you also I believe. I think it was the Piranha system. I talked to the friend of mine at GE and he says equipping with the F136 GE motor currently used in the JSF would be the ticket for the airframe. Lower cost of maintenance, easier on fuel and more importantly more thrust. I will offer both engine configurations for export sales. I will ship (6) F136 engines to you to install in your test models.
Layarteb
16-08-2005, 04:06
Test 1
Cloud cover obscured the eastern Pacific Ocean. The test area was designated at 100 miles from the coast of Ynoga. The first aircraft would be flying at an altitude of 72,000 feet and a speed of Mach 3.05, almost maximum speed. Conducting the test would be Major Rick Vaughn, a veteran of the Imperial Layartebian Space Division. Currently he was in charge of a series of Crow sites in the west of Ynoga.
In the briefing before the test, Major Vaughn sat in the room with those assisting him on the test. "Gentlemen, it is good to see that we're in high spirits today. The test will be against a Hawdawgian B-70B Valkyrie II. As you are aware from our own B-70B, the bomber is high-altitude and fast-moving. The B-70B from Hawdawg is capable of flying as high as 77,350 feet and as fast as Mach 3.10. The aircraft today will be moving at Mach 3.05 at 72,000 feet. We have no doubts about shooting one down on a head-on attack. The Crow system is capable of Mach 6.0 and has the range to nail it on an incoming shot from far out. Our ideals are shooting them down on a tail-shot, moving at maximum speed, just in case a head-on approach fails.
"The test for today will use a head-on shot. The aircraft will pass over us at altitude and speed. We will acquire and engage using the best probability system. We know we can track it with ground systems and we know we can track it with datalink because jamming AWACS is significantly more difficult. MMW is for ground-attack. However, active-radar and IIR are in question at the moment. The six-pack of the Valkyrie should put out enough of a heat signature to track it from four hundred miles away. For this test we're going to use IIR capabilities but also, in the event of jamming, use active-radar. We also have a passive seeker for last-ditch attempts, in case both are jammed. Any questions?"
Nobody said anything and the Major looked around. "Alright, let's get it done. The aircraft is airborne and it's on its way, eta is one hour."
One hour later, the B-70B was within range, flying towards the Crow site. The minimum engagement envelope of the Crow was breeched and as the aircraft flew away, the heat and radar signatures were detected. Both were large and as the aircraft thundered away, the Crow site locked on. The missile was fired when the Valkyrie was a mere 50 miles away and it climbed rapidly, moving at Mach 6.0, through its stages. The missile had a maximum range of 350 miles so they were well within the engagement envelope when they fired. It would be simple math.
Tracking the bomber with infrared was a piece of cake. Infrared jamming systems, however, allowed for confusion for the IIR seeker within 20 miles from the bomber and active-radar had been jammed way before. Passive radar did detect the bomber but would have been utterly useless had the bomber switched off its radar. The RWR of the B-70B would surely warn of radar and infrared missiles but not passively guided as they gave out no emissions. The bomber crew might think they were safe but there wasn't much of a chance. The missile intercepted, after all, diving down onto the target, hitting it square in the center, destroying it.
The test was a success but it demonstrated the ability of advanced jamming systems to fool standard guidance methods employed by SAMs, which would be active or semi-active radar, track-via-missile, and infrared. The employment of datalink for ground and air based radars would allow the missile to attack the bomber, even in high jamming environments and the addition of a passive seeker would allow the missile to take out targets even if ground and air based systems were offline.
We congratulate EOL on it successful test of the Crow System against the B-70B. We await the results of the 2nd test.
Sincerely,
Bob Thomas
CEO, Hawdawg Industries
Layarteb
16-08-2005, 23:12
We congratulate EOL on it successful test of the Crow System against the B-70B. We await the results of the 2nd test.
Sincerely,
Bob Thomas
CEO, Hawdawg Industries
I have to develop a formula for the missile to see the actual mission time, this way I can see intercept and to see at what range will the missile not be able to hit a target in a chase. A Mach 4 missile probably could not have done what the Crow did and I doubt the PAC-4 version of my MIM-104 could get much more than maybe 50 miles before the aircraft was out of range, at that speed.