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Frozopia is a growing nation, and is predicted to reach a hight of great power despite its unfortunate climate. For large amounts of Frozopia is a frozen waste lands, frequented by blizzards.
A large amount of the populace is coastal based, including the capital: Tropan.

We require a Nuclear power plant to power the city of Tropan. We aim to base it in the waste lands, and transport the power directly to the city.
We have discovered a number of Uranium mines in the moutains.

So ideally we want someone to build a power plant, that can also be used to create Nuclear weapons. Price Negotiable.

Secondly we need a Someone to design a new Snow Tank for us. At the moment we convert M1 Abrahams for this purpose but they are unreliable and largely ineffective. We have Snowmobiles with mounted machine guns + converted HUMVEE's both of which are effective and reliable, but any new design ideas are welcome. Price negotiable.

To sum it up:

1. Nuclear Power station to be constructed with Nuclear weapons manufacture capablities.

2. Design of a new Snow Tank to cope with the terrain in Frozopia.

3. We are also willing to sell excess Uranium.

Willing to accept offers.

Ve are villing to pay any price for excess uranium. It would greatly aid us in furthering the advancement of our nation, through the development of nuclear power facilities and other such innovations.

-Herr Major

1000 pounds, leaving our price at, say....14000 USD?

Let me change the price into kilograms (new prices):
60 USD per kilogram.

Bump

Delta Industries would be willing to build a nuclear power plant for $6 million.

"A new 1400-megawatt nuclear power plant is going to cost about $2.6 billion"
Erm I dont think I trust a power plant built for 6 million only......

"A new 1400-megawatt nuclear power plant is going to cost about $2.6 billion"
Erm I dont think I trust a power plant built for 6 million only......

OOC: Oops, I accidently hit the m instead of the b.

We'll build one for $3 billion.

"A new 1400-megawatt nuclear power plant is going to cost about $2.6 billion"
Erm I dont think I trust a power plant built for 6 million only......

It would probably be worse than Chernobyl! :P

what specs it got, what is its reliability, how long will it take to build, how safe is it, what are its running costs.....
As you can guess I want to know something about It first.

indeed lol.

Reactor type: Fission Reactor
Size: 5 sq km
Staff: 900 people
Reliability: 98% (There is always room for error)
Running cost: $4 million per year
Output: 2,300 megawatts of energy

It should take about three years to build. Several security measures will be installed, such as multiple fail safe systems, several radiation hardened bunkers, and a fast underground transit system to transport all none vital personale to a safe location

Sounds good. We will wire threw half the money when you start, half on completion.
When will you start?

may i suggest buying russian tanks off someone,due to the russian climate russian tanks preform very well in harsh conditions like snow.

Well we are looking for someone to make a offer. I will look threw some store fronts in future, though.

Bumparoo

How many tanks would you like, I am willing to sell you T-72s. I cannot sell very many though, as my excess is limited. We are also willing to set up a joint research facility.

CCT is willing to provide you with a prototype reactor. Check you tg's in a few minutes.

Sounds good. We will wire threw half the money when you start, half on completion.
When will you start?

We can start in one NS week.

Due to the recent operations undertaken by the Joint Special Operations Force in your nation, Aequatian Military Industries has begun projects to develop proper vehicles for the terrain in place of simply modifying current stock vehicles.

Although designing a new tank may not be in order, as the Predator II tank has an excellent ground-pressure rating for its size and can maneuver well in terrain such as snow. If required, we could conduct a showcase for the King of the Predator II MBT in Frozopia.

Ground Pressure for Predator II MBT

67,300 kilograms = 148,371 pounds

One Track Area = 80cm across X 250cm long = 28,000cm squared
One Track Area = 31.5in across X 98.4in long = 3,100in squared
2x Tracks = 6,200in squared
2x Tracks = 56,000cm squared

Ground-Pressure = 67,300kg/56,000cm squared = 1.2kg/cm squared
Ground-Pressure = 148,371lbs./6,200in squared = 23.93psi

Delta Industries, I have to cancel my order off you. The Candrian Empire has made more interesting offer with greater potential.
They have offered a prototype fushion reactor that can produce 14 gigawatts of energy, and although more costly at 6 billion USD it is a interesting offer.
Therefore we look forward to when The Candrian Empire begins construction.
We have alotted some land some miles north of Tropan for you to begin, and we ask when will you start? Also what are the running cost of such a reactor?

To Aequatio, we are most interested in the Predator II MBT. Maybe we can arrange a show case at the Royal Palace within the next month? We look forward to it immensely.

To Krendakov, we have purchased 300 T-55's. Any further tanks we may purchase will probaly be Predator II MBT's. My apologies.

CCT Spokesperson Florencia Hernandez:

It appears to me that you wish for a reactor that could be used to produce nuclear weaponary - that is not the case with th MCL Reactor. It is purely an energy reactor, there is no forseeable use of it's byproducts as weapons. However, the incredable power output of these reactor types may boost the construction of conventional arms.


(OCC - There are countermeasures to this happening, but any sort of backpressure to the deuteride flow while the reaction is occuring could spark a chain reaction and a 300 megaton explosion. That's why there isn't one in the DCE, it's population density is VERY high - islands smaller than Hawaii's chain, with about 200 million people. I really suggest a competent crew. Although if this sort of stuff begins to happen, the primary/reflect lasers and magnets shut off, keeping the reaction from being sustained.)

Predator II MBT Informational Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=427157)

The thread is a detailed description of the Predator II MBT and its combat systems. It provides more information than that given in the Aequatian Military Industries thread.

We have extremely low population density, and will base the plant in the vast empty waste lands of Northern Frozopia. We can begin production of a Nuclear weapons development site at another time.

We have looked into a number of problems you may face, during construction.

1. Cold climate and Blizzards can become a issue in these waste lands. However we hope this will not be too much of a issue.

2. Rebels. Although in small numbers we hope to prevent any sabotages. We are at war with the largest segment of rebels and are nearingg destruction of their forces. However we will offer protection in everyway. We will set up a permanent military/air base near the construction site for about 2000 men and vehicles.

3. Transporting the electricity through a network of cables to the city of Tropan will be expensive. Could we employ you to complete such a network?
We will pay you accordingly.

A question. How many homes/ manufactories could this power plant power?

A little over 3 million per a tank?
Hm. We will order 5 for test purposes, for this kind of climate.
If successful you can expect a bigger order on a later date:

Wiring through once order is confirmed:
$15,646,500
Thats a weighty chunk of our defence spending, could we obtain a discount or spread out our payment?

While Aysheaian Atomics realizes that several competitors have already proposed reactor designs to you, we feel that our TRIGA-type reactor would be ideal for you. Used throughout Aysheaia, our reactors have compiled an enviable safety record - designed as they are to be completely failsafe. Most reactors have various failure modes that will lead to core meltdown, with the attendant catastrophes. TRIGA-type reactors, however, were designed under the mandate to "design a reactor so safe … that if it was started from its shut-down condition and all its control rods instantaneously removed, it would settle down to a steady level of operation without melting any of its fuel." In other words, "engineered safety," or the prevention of catastrophic accidents by engineering the reactor control and safety system, was not good enough and the challenge was, therefore, to design a reactor with "inherent safety," guaranteed by the laws of nature. This way, the safety of the reactor would be guaranteed even if the engineered features were by-passed and the control rods, which contain the poison materials for shutting down an operating nuclear reactor, were rapidly removed.

In meeting this challenge, the idea of the "warm neutron principle" was introduced as a first step towards the design of an inherently safe reactor. In a water-cooled reactor, the general result from suddenly removing the control rods is a catastrophic accident, leading to a melting of the fuel. This is because the neutrons from the fission reaction remain "cold" from interacting with the cold water around the fuel and maintain their ability to cause further fissioning of uranium atoms in the fuel. This in turn results in the temperature of the fuel continuing to increase rapidly until it finally melts. However TRIGA is no ordinary light water reactor because much of its "moderation" of neutrons is due to the hydrogen that is mixed in with the fuel itself. Therefore, as the fuel temperature increases when the control rods are suddenly removed, the neutrons inside the hydrogen-containing fuel rod become warmer than the neutrons outside in the cold water. These warmer neutrons inside the fuel cause less fissioning in the fuel and escape into the surrounding water. The end result is that the reactor automatically reduces power within a few thousandths of a second, faster than any engineered device can operate. In other words, the fuel rods themselves act as an automatic power regulator, shutting the reactor down without engineered devices.

The most common TRIGA-type reactor used in Aysheaia is an 1800 MW model. Due to experience with the design, we can offer to build it - and train your staff to operate it - for $2.7 billion. We also manufacture TRIGA-type fuel rods which we can sell you.

CCT Spokesperson Florencia Hernandez:

The MCL reactor is estimated to be able to power 1.4 million homes per hour. It is a great supplement to existing systems. As to the defense of the sytem, 500 security guards and 20 MAP 3205 Survivor package LBTs will aid in their defense, but additional government support is much appreciated.

As for power transportation - I myself suggest you give local industries a hand in this, and contract them to set up advanced transmission cables. Make it a matter of national pride.

EDIT - Running cost are 3 million/year (Rather low I know, but assumes normal lifespan of laser, reflecter/replicators, and magnets, about 10 years.) Does not include price of Deuterium.

How much energy can this TRIGA type reactor produce?
What are its running costs?
How much are the rods, and how many are required?
Just a few questions.

A little over 3 million per a tank?
Hm. We will order 5 for test purposes, for this kind of climate.
If successful you can expect a bigger order on a later date:

Wiring through once order is confirmed:
$15,646,500
Thats a weighty chunk of our defence spending, could we obtain a discount or spread out our payment?

The price listed in the thread is the cost of the Predator II MBT's upgraded suite, the unit production cost of a Predator II tank with the suite is 9,387,900 Aequatian Markes.

I see. Could you tell me how many Markes to a dollar (My Ns calculator is not working properly for some reason)

Exchange Rate as of August 6, 2005
1 Aequatian Marke (AM) = 1.653 Dollars, United States (USD)
1 Dollar, United States (USD) = 0.6049 Aequatian Markes (AM)

Off topic OCC - I want a frightening economy...
Oh, and Aequatio, I'm gonna buy like 3 of those tanks for field tests. The fl and Aequetian Marke are roughly equivalent, no problem there.

IC:
Construction of the MCL F-Reactor, the first fusion reactor of it's kind and one of the most powerful energy reactors on Earth, will begin in 3 years (For the purposes of this thread, 3 RL days.), as we clear the area of known rebels and relocate wildlife.

Frozopia - Your order is confirmed and we will deliver the vehicles along with instructional sergeants to provide your personnel with the training necessary to operate the tank's combat systems.

The Candrian Empire - Your order is confrmed as well and we shall be doing the same for your armed forces as we are for Frozopia.

Ok I need Candrian's power here, so I will be taking his offer.
For Aysheaia, I will consider your offer for a future project that involves the construction of a power plant located much nearer a city.
Im still looking for someone who could consider constructing a nuclear weapons facility. Anyone?

Wait how much am I wiring through? I dont think you have stated the cost without the upgrade suite for the tank.

Bumpage.

3 KC 130 Transports with the security crew and tanks are on their way. The 6 GEM Aero a600 Jetliners carrying the construction crew are also on their way. They're being escorted by 25 F/B 1 Pitbulls.

Radio Message from a600 "Thunderbolt":
"ETA 5 Hours, Tropan, give us a runway!"

Radio Message from KC 130 "Theta":
"When we touch down, we gotta talk to some government officials, get the land north of Tropan cleaned."

"Run way granted, please land at run way C."

The a600 was the first to land. The behemoth was bigger than almost anything in the sky, bigger than a B52. The white tubular body opened the landing gear doors, dropping tires the size of cars. The small F/B 1's pulled away, circling around to land on a helicopter pad.

The a600's massive thrust vectoring nozzels pointed down to the tarmac, and the airbrakes split open. The jetliner, despite it's size, was like most Candrian-built aircraft - designed for the notoriously short runways of the Empire's airpoirts. "300 - Landing speed. Hit the brakes."
The diskbrakes squealed to life. The massive steel rotors crunched inside the giant alloy wheels, as the giant bird ground to a halt. Motors on the gear arms powered the massive bird off the runway at 20 miles an hour - on this bird, it seemed like forever.

King Clauro's fleet of Airport cars accelerated parallel the humongous plane. Whether King Clauro was impressed by the show of power, was impossible to tell. His face remained Blank. After what felt like ages the cars braked and pulled to a stop, awaiting whoever was in the plane. 40 Body guards surrounded the king, heavily equipped and well trained. It was freezing cold, but the King hid any discomfort. He would not show any weakness in front of his men or any foreigners.....

A tall, tanned skin man, visibly cold despite the layers of clothing he wore, walked up to the King. Three men, not visibly armed but clearly security guards, followed. "King Clauro, hello! I'm Sam Hearthel, from CCT! I'm going to be the civil foreman of this project. My friend here, Field General Simone, is going to lead Candrian forces for Clean Sweep. I'm sure this was discussed, correct?"
A stout, brown haired, Latin woman, no taller than 5'5", appeared from the KC 130 Theta. Behind her were two guards with P2 Rifles, and full body gear. She made the long walk to the end of the concourse seem like nothing more than a few meters. Her presences was clearly high amongst the Candrian.
She spoke, a low, chilling voice. "Hello, King Clauro. I'm hoping you will assist us. We didn't know that the rebel situation in this country is as bad as it is. We will require your aid - I'm hopelessly outgunned. Any reinforcement from us would take far too long to arrive - so we'll require your facilities to make the best use of what we have."

OCC- Now, I suggest this merges with the Civil War thread.

"We apologise for not informing you of the size of the rebel force. Fell free to use air base TA1 and T1. As of yet we have the rebels pinned down, but we are in need of reinforcements. Do you wish too lead them? We can give you 1000 Frozopian soldiers to lead, alongside any HUMVEE's you need. You can also call for assitance from our small but advanced air force. Just ask, and you can get whatever force you need."

OOC: sure link it up with the civil war thread. I need to go to bed now.

OOC: Did our deal go through?