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During a brainstorming session on how to counter nuclear weapons, Velkyan scientists came up with a anti-ICBM system that does not require ABMs, but it needs funding and the Velkyan defense budget is occupied with it's conventional forces. Here's how the system works:

Missile Launch:

The ICBM is launched from an enemy submarine, silo, or SD.

[img=http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4320/missilelaunch9pm.th.png] (http://img199.imageshack.us/my.php?image=missilelaunch9pm.png)

Detection:

A recon sattelite detects the launch, calculates the trajecotry to the target (in this case, a Velkyan Carrier Battle Group), and broadcasts it to a ground station.

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Picture of Carrier Group:

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Ground Alert:

A alert is sent through to a ground station (also a sea-borne station can be used), which automatcially fowards it to a nearby Katana patrol.

[img=http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/295/groundstation7nd.th.png] (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=groundstation7nd.png)



XAMA-1 Katana Specs.

Full name: EXperimental Anti Missile Aircraft Number 1
Arament: 2 AMBM missiles, laser targeting system
Size: 20 ft long, 32 ft wingspan
Max Speed: 4,000 mph
Engine: 2 State Aviation Company Dragons Breath Engines for normal flight, 1 SAC Fireburner for Mach 5 speed

Flight Trajecotry Determined:

The Katanas fly towards the ICBM reentry point, and with the aid of the recon sat. they achieve a lock on the ICBM.

[img=http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8615/amasalerted4nw.th.png] (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amasalerted4nw.png)

Interception:

Once the ICBM is in range, a ASAT missile is relased from approx. 100 miles away at the missile. Another missile is fired to ensure a hit.

[img=http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/9528/intercepted4cx.th.png] (http://img345.imageshack.us/my.php?image=intercepted4cx.png)

Destruction:

The 2 ASATs impact with the missile, detonationg it's payload 23 miles above the target and 100 miles away from the Katana flight.

[img=http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8144/missiledestroyed5ec.th.png] (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=missiledestroyed5ec.png)

This project is estimated to cost approx. 200 billion dollars for the whole system, and needs your funding to become a reality!

Any questions are welcome, as long as they are constructive.

CGI graphics will be uploaded soon.

The Holy Empire will contemplate assisting in this project.

Graphics are up!

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What about the vulnerability of the aircraft?

The aircraft are supposed to be operating over friendly airspace, and i'll be damned if you can find an escort who can keep up when it dashes towards the target.

The aircraft are supposed to be operating over friendly airspace, and i'll be damned if you can find an escort who can keep up when it dashes towards the target.

What about sabotage of the planes?

On the ground, they will be heavily guarded, as the stealth fighters are in the U.S.A., and will require checks to even get near the hanger. The planes are based in classified airfields as well.

That won't work against ICBMs. They release their warheads as tiny, Mach 17 warheads called MIRVs, and each ICBM carries multiple MIRVs. By the time they're headed downward they're near impossible to detect.

So what yiou have done, is take a massive and complex ABM system and put it in a fighter? There are signifigant differences between intercepting a satalite and an ICBM... velocity is one, another is that the satalite will likely be radiating, and that can be homed in on. Also, the ICBM will have detached it's MIRVs and vomited out a dozen decoys, too.

OOC:And there is the additional factor that the enemy might be using MARVs, which are basicilly MIRVs that weave randomly through the sky to throw-off anti-missile systems, thats what I use. The best time to intercept the missile is in the boost phase(IE:When the missile is leaving the atmosphere) because that is when all the warheads are in ONE place. Also, why waste money on Expensive ASAT Missiles? If you re-program a SAM Warhead such as the PATRIOT PAC-3s(or in a naval case, SM-2-ER(Extended Range) Block-4s and Block-3s) and attach it to a powerful enough radar such as the SPY Radar utilised on AEGIS ships(Also re-programmed)... you can intercept a MIRV(but not a MARV) Warhead rather cheaply.

The image is decievng, the missile takes out the ICBM while it is in the glide stage, before it releases the MIRVs. The system is also designed to take out SCUDs and other balllsitc missiles as well.


The missile achieves both a radar lock and homes in on the missile since the second aircraft is painting it with a laser. BTW, I'm also going to rename the missile, ASAT is a inappropriate name. Also, the craft IS NOT a fighter, it is a AMA (Anti-Missile Aircraft). A fighter is designed to engage other aircraft. This engages missiles.

OOC:Thats fine... unless the enemy is unloading any amount above 100 missiles. You see, those Anti-Missiles are to big for ANY aircraft to carry more then one. And you can only have a limited number of this specialised aircraft(considering that the kind of aircraft required for the height we are talking about have to be more expensive then an ICBM). Also, if this thing is designed to take out ICBMs... it CANNOT take out a SRBM or MRBM. By the time you got into the sky and up to altitude the missile would have taken out its target(thats why the PATRIOT PAC-2 and PAC-3 are mostly automated)

The aircraft itself is staying in the atmosphere, the missile is going to intercept.

We are planning to field 40. 2 missiles per aircraft. We can knock out 80 ICBMs with a properly coodinated defense. We are also planning to buy a ABM system as well, as this complements it nicely.

OOC: How'd you like like the CGIs?

OOC:That last message was supposed to be OOC... sorry. Also, I dont really know what a CGI is.

Computer Generated Image. Those images were produced by the DOGA animation program.

OOC:AH! They seem pretty neat... Were those already made? Or did you make them? Or did you ask DOGA to make them?

Also, these aircraft are designed to loiter over a Carrier Battle group, Velkyan overseas forces, overseas bases etc. The ABM system will protect the home front, the AMA system will protect overseas targets.

OOC:Who would launch a tactical nuclear strike with an ICBM? I would use a cruise missile, or a bomb, or an SRBM.

OOC: Made them myself, heres the link. Its easy, it's like playin with a kickass set of Legos. Download L2 or L3, L1 is useless.

click here for english site (http://doga.co.jp/english/index.html)

OOC: Ships are suprisingly resilent to low-yield nukes. The AMA will just intercept the missile in-flight regardless of target.

A bomber carrying a nuke can be intercepted quite easily by SAMs and fighters.

Cruise missiles ae hard to intercept, and a Partiot System can kill a S/MRBM.

OOC:Well, I dont think you could find a PATRIOT on a ship... although a SM-2-ER Block-4 will actually work slightly better then a PATRIOT.

OOC: My Quentin Class Missile Ship carries several Patriot Batteries. But it only equips 1 of 3 CBGs in the Velkyan Navy, the others are still being equipped with PATRIOTs.

Greetings.
The azhgarian goverment has decided to give you funding support on this since we are very satisfied with the equipment we bought from you earlier.
Xevious Ghojin
Foreign Minister Of The Holy Empire Of Azgharoth

We may invest in this project

We have reached our funding for the Velkyan Arm of this project!

The Katanas have been deployed, and the sat. is in the sky. The unit will be in our storefront shortly, and the nations of Azgorath and all else who funded in shall receive a system 50 percent off!