Creation of the Intergalactic Senate.
Zactarn Prime
03-08-2005, 06:11
OOC: I've been thinking since no one has yet decided to post permanent rules for the Intergalactic Universe why not have every FT nation elect a representative to got the Intergalactic Senate. There we will vote on laws and other things. Anyone member can make a proposal but it will need 3 acceptions or votes to become a resolution. Then the Senate all votes on the resolution. If passed it instantly becomes a law. Now of course only countries in the Senate will have to follow the laws but hopefully many FT nations will join. The headquarters and everything will be on a planet in a distant Galaxy surounded by military posts and checkpoints. There will be no Senate Majority Leader or Senate Speaker. Whoever starts a proposal that is eventually passed as a law shall be the one to announce it. The Senate will have no political power over any nation or planet. The only thing the Senate will do that will influence a nation is the laws it passes. I think this is a great idea because there really is no law. Once I fell that enough people have joined I will start the thread."
Nations Interested:
Creater and Founder Zactarn Prime
Southeastasia
Dri Vel
The Serene Death
Fallen Earth
Gaian Ascendacy
The Serene Death
03-08-2005, 06:20
Now this I would back. Sounds fun and you'll definately see a Serene Death rep if this is made.
Zactarn Prime
03-08-2005, 06:22
Now this I would back. Sounds fun and you'll definately see a Serene Death rep if this is made.
Thank you and this is getting made no matter how many people join. Maybe it will just us 2 for a while but people will catch on.......i hope.
Fallen Earth
03-08-2005, 06:37
I want to say create an offsite forum, but then that might take away from any roleplay here. I like the set up you have here, no leader: people introduce their own legislation, several needed to second it before it can be voted on. I say you've got a good system here.
Southeastasia
03-08-2005, 06:40
A good idea, but perhaps this needs more advertising amongst others to work.
Zactarn Prime
03-08-2005, 06:43
I want to say create an offsite forum, but then that might take away from any roleplay here. I like the set up you have here, no leader: people introduce their own legislation, several needed to second it before it can be voted on. I say you've got a good system here.
"No offsite forum because one that gets annoying. Two unneeded as this allows you to see the new law that has been passed and do any RP's your in without opening multiple windows. And 3 if it stays on NS people will see it and be pusuaded to join. No offsite forum. And also I will open a thread for all the laws that have been passed after it's up for awhile. Also no political party aspects come into play. No democrat reps side with the others just because they are the same. And I would like to hope that more people will join so can i see a Fallen Earth rep when it's created?"
it sounds like a good idea to me
Zactarn Prime
03-08-2005, 06:46
Everyone interested start advertising it so that it grows. I'm gunna start a list of all the Nations interested.
Gaian Ascendancy
03-08-2005, 06:51
The Gaian Ascendancy would be very much interested in a forum such as this one, as it already conforms to plans we were adopting, interrupted all to often by conflicts and such.
Regards,
Lady Seto Kamiki
Gaian Froeign Advisor
Zactarn Prime
03-08-2005, 07:02
"We thank you Gaian Ascendancy and hope that you pass word of this on in hope that others will get encouraged to join."
Taledonia
03-08-2005, 07:06
Sounds almost like the Republic, we have an elected Senate that rules and passes laws. Why don't you all just join us, we're already set up!
Zactarn Prime
03-08-2005, 07:11
Sounds almost like the Republic, we have an elected Senate that rules and passes laws. Why don't you all just join us, we're already set up!
"The laws they pass are for your planet or galxy or whatever this is for everyone. Well at least everyone that signs up. Here we are on a new planet not on Taledonia and plus That means the universe will have to adopt the set rules already there so no."
Taledonia
03-08-2005, 07:13
The Republic is an alliance, not just my nation. We have created a set of laws that all nations must follow. It's basically what your doing, but we're organized and all reside in the same region.
Gaian Ascendancy
03-08-2005, 07:19
It would be better recieved if it was a place parties can come to face their peers for events that take place in the Greater Cosmos. The passing of laws for all sides would be tricky considering the 'ego' nature of those that will say: 'we concern ourselves with internal matters first.' In so confronting, the nations that pass laws unto other peer nations in this endeavor, would have to take into account thise one thing.
If the nations respect each other here, then it may all work out. If not, then guess what.
Respect for this forum must be made from the start, not neseccarily create laws. And you 'all' know what will happen when a nation does something the others don't like, and in so doing, a member leaves and all that.
The challenges will become vast on this kind of scale, moreover if we actually limit the scope of this endeavor.
Neo Zeta
03-08-2005, 07:29
Neo Zeta would only join if it had two votes. The Yevon Church Would vote by it self as Neo Zeta votes by it self.
With out this The Maesters of Yevon will reject it and Neo Zeta will not join
Signed: Maester Seymour
Vespeterium Minor
03-08-2005, 08:17
I'll join. It sounds like a much better idea than my statutes of Interstellar law. That way we can put a reign on certain conflicts.
Ihrentan
03-08-2005, 08:38
The Federation of the Planet Ihrentan is very interested in this Intergalactic Senate, if only for the purpose of establishing mutually beneficial economic interests.
The Federal Congress has unanimously approved this message.
Hyperspatial Travel
03-08-2005, 09:09
So, would you attempt to make these laws binding on nations who are not members?
Zactarn Prime
03-08-2005, 18:34
So, would you attempt to make these laws binding on nations who are not members?
"No that would be unjust as they would have no say since they would not ne in the Senate. Laws passed by the Senate would instantly be applied to all that are in it."
Christopher Thompson
03-08-2005, 18:43
Slap me on that list.
What can I do to help?
Zactarn Prime
03-08-2005, 19:01
Slap me on that list.
What can I do to help?
Spread the word we don't have nearly enough people and I'm going to start the thread soon.
Zactarn Prime
03-08-2005, 20:36
bump
Zactarn Prime
03-08-2005, 23:29
bump
The Serene Death
04-08-2005, 00:48
Neo Zeta would only join if it had two votes. The Yevon Church Would vote by it self as Neo Zeta votes by it self.
With out this The Maesters of Yevon will reject it and Neo Zeta will not join
Signed: Maester Seymour
If we were to do that, then every religion, and indeed every NGO would have to have their own representation.
Zactarn Prime
04-08-2005, 00:58
should i start the thread?
The Serene Death
04-08-2005, 01:04
Sure, lets hammer this out.
Zactarn Prime
04-08-2005, 01:15
spread the word then because it is a good idea.
Zactarn Prime
04-08-2005, 19:47
bump
The Serene Death
04-08-2005, 19:53
I think that if anyone is currently a member of any organization, they should ask the (FT) members to join such an orgainzation. Someone should start this soon.
Vespeterium Minor
04-08-2005, 20:21
I think that you should have premanent members, like the UN. You could have Zactarn Prime (since he founded it), the Gaian Ascendency since they are probably the most powerful one here, and if they decide to join, Neo Zeta.
The Fedral Union
04-08-2005, 20:46
Sign me up (even though it might not work (to many ooc issues)
The Serene Death
05-08-2005, 02:37
I think that you should have premanent members, like the UN. You could have Zactarn Prime (since he founded it), the Gaian Ascendency since they are probably the most powerful one here, and if they decide to join, Neo Zeta.
I have problems with the idea of permanent members or a Security Council like the UN. The Idea of the P5 (Permanent 5) was that since they were the winners of WW2 they were able to better protect the world. There is no one like that right now, at best there are many defense pacts and warring factions. To do that we would need to pick someone from every alliance, every faction. They would have to all be a certain strength to balance everything out. And all would want veto power, which means nothing would ever happen.
The only position beside being a Senate member there should be is an Administrator. Their job would be to start and end formal discussion and votes and make/edit the list of laws. The don't get veto power or anything, they are just to make everything run more smoothly. I think that Zactarn Prime should be the first Administrator since he thought the Intergalactic Senate up, and then we could vote on the rest once he decides to step down. Also, we should have the ability to vote a person out if they don't do their job. Maybe 3/4ths of the members would be a good amount.
Neo Zeta
05-08-2005, 02:44
Neo Zeta had decided to Join. A agrement with Yevon was reached in whitch we will work togather with them on any decsions we come to.
Signed, Crown Prince Hakudoushi
Laskon certainly wouldn't mind joining such a venture, as its forces can become quite thin spread when dealing with outlaws and having to patrol hyperspace routes.
OOC:
I enjoy doing all kinds of tech RPs, I do hope I do not have to be exclusively FT to be in this.
The Serene Death
05-08-2005, 04:28
OOC:
I supose that MT and PMT could join in, but you would need a way to get off the planet and meet with the Senate (FTL travel) or have FTL communications to send messages. It is supposed to be an Intergalactic Senate, although that shouldn't bar PMT/MT right away I guess.
Ardessia
05-08-2005, 04:30
I would like to join this, plz add me.
The Serene Death
05-08-2005, 04:33
Well, it looks like we have enough people interested. We might as well start now and add people later. Zactarn, you want to start this?
Zactarn Prime
05-08-2005, 04:36
Yes I will.
Zactarn Prime
05-08-2005, 04:39
Alright ppl will have to send their reps to the place and we have to bar mt but not pmt. Mt have no way of getting here. Pmt have certain ship they can use and they normally double as Ft as well.
OOC:
Yarr, my nation uses FT ships and has colonies, but in my primary nation, we don't use lots of advanced technology.
and I been flirting with the idea so consider my post offical declartaion of intrest
The Serene Death
05-08-2005, 06:21
This (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=436010) is the link to the start of the IS for anyone interested.