NationStates Jolt Archive

Brazil a nation of ethnic, geographical and natural diveristy. has forged together the remnants of the Old brazilian empire (toppled in 1889 by a coup) with the Ideals of the newly formed republic.

It is spear headed by new president of the republic Francisco de paula Rodreguez Alves. who succeded former president Prudente jose de MoraisBarros.

The new republic pledges prosperity for the people of Brazil and has encouraged mass Immigration from Europe with the Promise of Free land for one and all and the chance to make a better life for the peoples of the "old countries"


Official Diplomatic Relations

key:

Green= Cordial, Friendly dialogue

Yellow= Neutral relations

Orange= No Diplomatic Relations ( I.e. Brazil no longer regonises country)

Black= WE HATE YOU!!!!!!!

GERMANY Cordial

UNITED STATES Cordial

ITALY Cordial

GREAT BRITAIN Cordial

VENUEZUELA Does not recognize dictatorship of Venuezuela. will restart Diplomacy pending new fair elections

( I will add more later, Im a bit tired at the moment, and i need to do more research on Brazils history.)

Official German Statement

As Wilhelm II of the German Empire and King of Prussia, I hereby welcome the reforms of the Nation of Brazil. The entirety of Germany congratulates President Alves on his rise to power and wishes peace and prosperity for the Brazilian people.

I would like to point out to you the problems that are occuring Venezuela, your neighbor. The Venezuelan people have amassed huge debts for the German people, among others. The Kaiser himself would like to point out that the only reason such an attack is happening is due to these reasons. Brazil, should it follow the decrees of the world, should not feel any danger from the German people. Instead, they should feel that the German Empire is a friend that is willing to help nations such as yours stray from the problems of financial insecurity.

British Statement

From: Lord Lansdowne, Foreign Minister
To: Brazilian Government

The British government would like to state it's support of the Brazilian democratic reforms and will pledge to support this new country in whatever way possible. Perhaps you would agree to closer diplomatic ties with our nation, we already have close contacts in South America in the form of our allies, Argentina, and would welcome greater contact with other nations.

In respect to the situation developing in Venezuela, this has only occured due to the Venezuelan leader ignoring repeated European warnings and wasting his creditors money on arms and equipment to feed his civil war. The British and Germans, amongst others, are desperate to reclaim this debt and will do so by force if necessary. The Venezuelan debtors have witheld payments for too long and have ignored requests to allow foreign citizens into the country to attempt to reclaim and invest some of this money. Therefore we are left with no alternative but to go ahead with this course of action. Brazil has nothing to fear from the European powers as it has always made repayments on time and has wisely invested foreign capital. I wish you good luck with your new government.

The United States government warmly applauds the Republic of Brazil's continued embrace of freedom and democracy and looks forward to continued partnership and friendship with the Brazilian people and government.

President Echuarren welcomes the major reforms now underway in our neighbor, Brazil. We look forward to working with you to stabilize commodity prices in world markets through inter-American cooperation.

Chile views with alarm recent events regarding possible European intervention in South America. At this time, our administration and Central Bank are working to reduce foreign debt.

TOP SECRET

To: The Brazilian Government
From: King Vittorio Emanuele III

Italy has, in recent days, been extremely interested in diplomatic relations with the New World. We are alarmed at British and German intervention in Venezuela, and we hope that the British and Germans do not forge that land into another European colony. This is especially because those damned Germans just stabbed me in the back for the Turks! In case those Germans start looking at your country, Italy will defend Brazil. We may not be the mightiest of all nations, but we can surely try and stand up for our principles.

But enough of my venting anger at the Germans. Italy recognises that if Brazil wishes to become a Great Power, it will require a large and modern navy. Italy, too, is working towards having a powerful and modern navy to rival that of all the other Great Powers. In order to do so, however, we must develop a robust economy to support our naval adventures. Brazil, too, must develop a strong economy to reach the coveted Great Power status.

So our proposition is quite simple: Brazil will purchase all of its future warships and merchant marine from Italian shipyards starting in 1905 until Brazil is capable of producing all warships it desires. In exchange, Italy will help exploit the large Brazilian iron deposits and will import all of its iron from Brazil, once Brazil is capable of satisfying Italy's requirements. Italy will also build its warships from Brazilian iron, which will be forged into steel in Italy. These conditions do not apply if there is some external force in place, such as a blockade, war etc. that prevents the import and export of goods to our two nations. In addition, all tarrifs between our nations will be eliminated.

Secret:

To the Italian Government

The People of the new Free republic of brazil find this offer satisfactory and we readily accept this proposal.

Open:

to the rest of the world

the new government of Brazil applauds the Friendly reaction and approach by other nations of the world and we hope to forge new friendships and possible alliance in the near future...

The Job of Improving Brazils Disparity between the Rich and poor is an Ominous one. Brazil has long been under the control and Influence of the Coffee Oligarchs and Tycoons. they were helped under the Emporeres Dom Pedro 1 and 2..

The New president has put much Emphasis also on Industrial development which would exploit Brazils vast natural resources. such as Petroleum, Iron, Rubber, Sugar, Coffee, Gold..

allready there have been Improvements to Industrial capacity for Iron and Coal.

With a Alarming rate in Growth in the national population The government is under pressure to provide adequate Medical Education to the Largely poor Rural Populace who live in the malaria Rife Amazon Basin and lack Knowledge of Birth Control and Contraceptives...

These are the growing pains of a new nation....

TOP SECRET

To: The Brazilian Government
From: King Vittorio Emanuele III

Italy thanks Brazil for accepting this offer, but there is one matter we must settle. As we have pledged to build ships for Brazil, we request that Brazil submit its proposed list of ships to be built, so that they can be expediently laid down when our new shipyard facilities open up in 1905. At this moment, we propose that Brazil concentrate on its merchant marine, so that the flow of iron to Italy can continue reliably. Brazil may wish to invest in a few warships, so just name what type of ship (battleship, cruiser, destroyer, torpedo boat, etc.) and we will name the best ships of that class that Brazil can purchase.

Also dealing with iron, Italian engineers are being sent to Brazil to help increase your iron mining capacity. There is, however, one other industry that Italy would like to see Brazil increase: coal. We Italians absolutely require coal for our economy, and we have no coal of our own. So we shall also send some engineers to help develop the coal mining industry.

With this mutual assistance, we hope that the Brazilian and Italian economies will grow rapidly and evenly. At the very least, the iron and coal industries in Brazil and the shipbuilding industry in Italy will see a large increase.

Brazil announces Free trade with Italy......

In an effort to establish beneficial trade with a developed country. President Alves has officially announced that he and the representatives of the Italian government have arranged free trade between the two countries.

president Alves says that the trade with Italy will Improve the Infrastructure to valuable resource areas ( I.e. to remoter parts of the amazon) and open up previous unexlpored parts of Brazils vast Hinterland for Development....

The brazilian people have celebrated openly with the news... at the prospects of More employment.. and president Alves popularity rating after only two months in power is through the roof....

President Alves Condemns Venuezuelas Incompetent Dictatorship....


In a public speech today President Alves described Germanys and Great Britains Intervention in Venuezuela as Justified and applaudable.. as veneuzuela brought shame to the Continent potraying the whole area as a back water run by Incompetent and brutal Caudillos...

"This is a sterotype ourselves and our neighbouring south American countries must break out of if we want to succeed in the New World...."he finished to a round of applause in Rio De Janeiros Civic Hall.

RIOTING BETWEEN GERMAN AND ITALIN SETTLERS IN RIO DE JANEIRO


There have been concerns over heavy fighting between local Italian and

german Business owners in Brazil over the past weeks. both minorities have reached fever pitch and demand the brazilian government take a side.... The rioting has been largely chrushed. brazilian police taking no sides and suppressed the fighting in the capital Rio de janiero.

President Alves has ordered all german and Italian Minorities in the country to remain at peace with each other or face deportation. despite the fatc brazil has trade agreements with both countries...

The US government formally invites the Brazilian government to attend a Pan American conference that will be held in February 1905 (ooc Tuesday I will start a thread) to discuss Debt issues, and modifying international law to make debt collection by force a thing of the past.

hmm i wonder how germany and Great Britain will react to that? ( referring to venuezuela incident) lol

Brazil will send a delegate to the summit. he will be Jose Barros one of the governments top foreign analysists and negotiators...

OOC: This message is intended to be a conspiracy-theory type thing, with the intention of giving Italian businessmen more right than German ones.

IC:
Secret Communique

To: The Brazilian Government
From: The Italian Government

Italy is concerned about the fighting between Italian and German minorities in Brazil. However, we believe that the treachorous Germans are probably behind the attacks, with the intention of capturing Brazil! They have already back-stabbed us Italians, and it is only a matter of time before they do the same to Brazil. So we propose that you join the Italian side in this dispute and show those Germans what's what. If Germany intervenes, we Italians, combined with the existing Brazilian navy, will show those Germans that no friend of Italy can be invaded. We propose a military alliance between our two nations, one in which the other will defend the first if it goes to war against Germany. If Brazil so desires, this treaty can be secret.

Brazil proclaims Portuguese reconcilliation..

In an effort to Give the Brazilian people better Understanding about their former colonial Masters Portugal. The Brazilian Government hass announced a national reconcilliation day with portugal.. during brazils sometimes tumultous 93 years of independence from portugal there has been widespread paranoia and general unresst about a potential portuguese comeback. This has long past..

The brazilian people now beleive they have the Status quo on their former masters in terms of power and Influence. and believe the two nations should set aside their differences and share in their similar cultures, languages and traditions...

To the Brazilian Government:

We are deeply saddened at the lack of discipline our German brothers have shown in Brazil. From my sources, I have determined that it is Italian agressors who have pushed our brothers to the limit. They were only acting in response to Italian beligerence. I believe that the only way to solve this without causing an incident is to both place an embargo on Italy, and expel all Italians from both Brazil and Venezuela. Otherwise we would be happy to assist our German brothers in crushing these Italian Pig-Dogs.

OOC: As Zeeland has departed this project I am the new owner of Brazil thanks to Hrstrovokia. *waves* hi everyone!

In fair elections a socialist candidate has been elected to the presidency of Brazil in the form of Sr. Cabello. The President has also abolished his own post of President and made himself 'Glorious Leader'. Glorious Leader wishes it to be known that he is extremely hostile to the suspicious and militaristic attitude of Venezuela and will do all in his power to keep his country safe from Venezuelan aggression. Of further note, Sr. Cabello wishes to gauge the possibility of a long term alliance with our Chilean cousins for the prosperity of all.

Other points of note and policy include:

1. Logging operations are being curbed in the Brazilian rainforest.

2. Supply of formerly illegal drugs will now be done in a controlled environment by the government.

3. Democratic elections will occur once every seven years.

4. Our military is being curbed in size so as to be more effective but smaller. With special attention being given to ground based offensives and seaborne landings.

(more to be added later.

Best wishes,
Glorious Leader.

OOC: *Holds hand up*

A few Questions for this new... socialist.

Does the "Glorious Leader" realize that Venezuela now, other than various companies that are in Venezuela and the German language is spoken a bit more, Germany now has no official ties with your neighbor?

What is this new Brazil's attitude towards the conflicts of German and Italian businessmen that has been going on along side this war?

Lastly, does this new Brazil's reduction of the military mean that she is reducing ties with the Empire? Germany is still interested in investing in Brazilian things, but realizes Germany may not need to ship as many guns...

Parthini']OOC: *Holds hand up*

A few Questions for this new... socialist.

Does the "Glorious Leader" realize that Venezuela now, other than various companies that are in Venezuela and the German language is spoken a bit more, Germany now has no official ties with your neighbor?

What is this new Brazil's attitude towards the conflicts of German and Italian businessmen that has been going on along side this war?

Lastly, does this new Brazil's reduction of the military mean that she is reducing ties with the Empire? Germany is still interested in investing in Brazilian things, but realizes Germany may not need to ship as many guns...


OOC: before answering I am just going to point out that Glorious Leader isn't really socialist. Thats just his image, just populist basically. Really he's just a nasty little dictator, making Brazil a sort of banana republic. thanks:)

IC: Firstly, Glorious Leader wishes it to be publicly known that any squabbling and feuding between German and Italian businesspeople will be met with immediate repatriation to their home countries.

Next, Brazil is happy to notice that Germany has no official ties with our odious neighbour.

Finally, although we may not need as many weapons, the weapons we will need will be of higher quality than previously.

Secret IC to Germany: Glorious Leader greatly admires the German nation and its principles and is willing to expel all Italian businesses and nationals for the duration for the war in return for substantal monetary aid after the war as well as, after the war, the retraining and re-equipping of the Brazilian armed forces. Also Germany will receive special trading priveledges with Brazil if she accepts this secret deal. Upon agreement, all Italian businesses with links to conflict of businesspeople will be sent straight back to Italy while the Germans may remain with special priveledges.

Also, after the great war and once the German army has retrained the Brazilian armed forces, we intend to move to capture Venezuelan territory, in which case oil will be made available at a special price to Germany. Just think, a western trained army in South America will be irresistable. Please think on this.

Deepest Regards,
Glorious Leader

Chile welcomes the interest of Brazil in furthering South American welfare and security. At this time we recommend that they discuss reconcilliation with Columbia before proceeding.

Alberto Molina,
President,
Republic of Chile

Chile welcomes the interest of Brazil in furthering South American welfare and security. At this time we recommend that they discuss reconcilliation with Columbia before proceeding.

Alberto Molina,
President,
Republic of Chile

The Glorious Leader is not familiar with the Colombian problem. Pray enlighten me? But certainly a strong union of states must eventually be created in South America. Maybe something along the lines of the Leage of South American Nations? Who knows. Open to suggestions. But yeah if you could enlighten us on the Colombian problem (OOC: sorry I've just come on to this Earth if you could just enlighten me lol :) ).

Deepest Regards,
Glorious Leader

OOC: If Brazil accepts any secret agreement with Germany to expel Italian businessmen, all the Brazilian ships under Italian control will be siezed permanantly. All Italian economic aid will be siezed permanantly. The lucrative sale of coal to Italy will cease. The merchant fleet under construction will be siezed. In essence, Brazil will have paid Italy a substantial amount of money to essentially fund the Italian navy and damage the Brazilian economy.

It would be wise if you read all of the former Brazil's acts before secretly offering the expulsion of Italian businessmen to Germany.

The Government of the United States and President Theodore Roosevelt wants to know if the Government of Brazil will sign the Pan American Treaty

Original Treaty (signed 1904)
1. The Chagos Doctrine of no debt collection by force be accepted as policy by the governments of North and South America, and that all effort be made to present a unified front to the world and get that made as an accepted part of international law.
2. That the German occupation of Venezuela is in violation of the Monroe Doctrine, and that any government instituted by Germany not be recognized by any government in the Americas. (this portion no longer applies as Germany has withdrawn from Venezuela and no longer has it under military occupation)
3. That all tariffs be halved or even eliminated between the nations of the Western Hemisphere.
4. That the election results in Puerto Rico be accepted as valid by the nations of the Western Hemisphere. (Puerto Rico chose to become a Territory of the United States)
5. The United States will not intervene in the internal affairs of the nations of the Western Hemisphere except at the request of the legal government of that nation, and only if approval exists amongst the majority of the nations of the Americas.
6. That a treaty codifying these points be signed and called the Pan American Treaty.
7. That all nations who approve the Pan American Treaty also agree to come to the mutual defense of one another should a nation from outside the Western Hemisphere intervene, invade or use military force without the agreement of the majority of the treaty signatories.
8. The Great Britain, which has significant holdings in the Western Hemisphere, and as well as the Netherlands and France be included in the treaty should they sign it, although the defense responsibilities of the Pan American treaty signatories should only extend to the current holdings of those nations, and that any territory of theirs that gains its independence should be admitted into the Treaty automatically upon request.
9. That all pressure be placed on Germany to withdraw from Venezuela within 5 years. (which occured within the time period)

There was disagreement over the German intervention in Venezuela. We and Columbia dissaproved of it, and the former Brazillian government was more favorable to it. Chile is an enthusiastic supporter of the Pan American treaty.

Alberto Molina

OOC: Don't think I'm gone for good ;) I still have plans for Venezuela. While they don't include military occupation, I plan to be very involved in Venezuelan matters. You will see.

Brazil agrees in principle to the Pan-American treaty, but if Brazil feels she cannot militarily defend a member nation on moral grounds then she reserves the right not to do so. Otherwise, Brazil agrees.

OOC: Fluffywuffy, saying that was secret IC to Germany I'm amazed you can comment on it considering you would not have even heard about it.

Parthini']OOC: Don't think I'm gone for good ;) I still have plans for Venezuela. While they don't include military occupation, I plan to be very involved in Venezuelan matters. You will see.

Secret IC to Germany: Would Germany still be willing to re-equip and retrain the Brazilian armed forces in return for a free hand in Venezuela and trading privelidges from the Brazilian government? As well as support for German demands at the Washington Conference?

OOC: If you don't understand, there is this nice thing called OOC, and it is affixed before that entire post. Italy doesn't know anything about the deal, but I am telling you that if you do go ahead with it those thing will happen, as it is impossible to mask Italian businessmen being transfered from Brazil to Italy.

Brazil agrees in principle to the Pan-American treaty, but if Brazil feels she cannot militarily defend a member nation on moral grounds then she reserves the right not to do so. Otherwise, Brazil agrees.

OOC: Fluffywuffy, saying that was secret IC to Germany I'm amazed you can comment on it considering you would not have even heard about it.

the US points out that the treaty is designed to protect the Western Hemisphere from outside interference

secretly the US points out that if the majority of the treaty nations agree, there is nothing to prevent the nations of the Western Hemisphere from acting against morally objectionable nations.

Secret IC to Brazil: Germany will agree to reequip the Brazilian Army and economic matters. However, considering the war is over, Germany requests that Italian interests plateu rather than drop, so as to not insult the nations of the world in this volitle time.

the US points out that the treaty is designed to protect the Western Hemisphere from outside interference

secretly the US points out that if the majority of the treaty nations agree, there is nothing to prevent the nations of the Western Hemisphere from acting against morally objectionable nations.

In that case Brazil will sign the Pan-American treaty.

Parthini']Secret IC to Brazil: Germany will agree to reequip the Brazilian Army and economic matters. However, considering the war is over, Germany requests that Italian interests plateu rather than drop, so as to not insult the nations of the world in this volitle time.

Brazil respects the wishes of Germany regarding Italian businessmen and apologises unreservedly to Italy for the suggestion. Meanwhile, Brazil gladly accepts German aid in military retraining and re-equipping and wishes to know when such aid and equipment will begin to arrive. Tarriffs have already been lowered on German goods entering Brazil.

Currently Brazil is in talks with Russia over foreign investment and wishes to strengthen relations with other socialist nations. Let me know if you'r out there so we can work together someday.

Brazil has agreed a deal with Russia for Brazil to be supplied with modern agricultural equipment and aid in creating modern transport facilities in Brazil. In return, Brazil has strengthened ties with Russia and has halved tarriffs with her. The deal will be put to use in cleared areas of the Amazon and other chosen areas to modernise agriculture, some of the capital raised from this venture will pay for the construction of heavy industry in the Matto Grosso region of Brazil which is safe militarily and prime territory as much of it is so far unpopulated. Immigration to Brazil is still being encouraged and the grain will now be there to feed Brazil's citizens after agricultural modernisation has been implemented, along with the large scale construction of a rail transport network and roads with the aid of Russia.

As a point of interest to foreign governments, Brazil is now governed by a parliament elected 8 strong politburo which has the ultimate veto over decisions made by a democratically elected parliament. Land reform is slowly being implemented and although there is a moderately strong private sector, the government still retains control of major industry's and public services such as healthcare as the country shifts to market socialism. Parliament is the voice of the people and deals mainly with internal affairs but government of the country is ultimately in the hands of the Politburo which dictates policy. However, decisions by the Politburo can be defeated by a 70% parliament vote against them. If the Politburo is split 4 to 4 then parliament will vote on the issue to decide it. The Politburo can veto parliaments actions with a 6 to 2 majority when parliament makes decisions as well. The head of state of Brazil is the President, he can comment on policy and although not a member of the Politburo he still has a vote in parliament and can intervene in the Politburo in the case of a tie in votes when there is a state of emergency that requires a fast decision. If the situation is absolutely dire (called so by a 75% parliament majority), the President assumes full control of the country.

OOC: comments appreciated, thanks :)

OOC: Interesting, and just how "independant minded" would these politiburo members be? Are we talking one party here?

OOC: Interesting, and just how "independant minded" would these politiburo members be? Are we talking one party here?

OOC: Technically they could all be from different parties if all elected but here 5 of them are from the ruling Socialist Peoples Union, 1 is from the hardline opposition Conservative Front and the other 2 are Green Party (they have strong support in potential Amazon deforestation areas) and the Green Party are extremely similar to the SPU anyway so they tend to vote together on most things.

The US government quietly informs the Brazilian government that it is not pleased by the Russian/Brazilian mutual defense treaty, and that such a treaty is considered a danger to the Western Hemisphere that is likely to bring about repurcussions.

It also points out that Brazil has not signed the Pan American treaty, and the United States therefore does not feel bound by that treaty when it comes to dealing with Brazil.

However, if Brazil was to end that treaty relationship with Russia, then the US would honor the Pan American Treaty in relation to Brazil.

In the US Congress, tariffs on Brazilian products are raised to the point where they effectively prevent Brazilian goods from entering the US markets. The US starts buying its rubber from Malaya and French Indochina, its coffee from Colombia (well, more of it) and British West Africa, its cocoa from Africa and Central America and encourages other Pan American nations to do the same.
The Law that brings about the tariffs has a provision that ends those tariffs if Brazil ends its alliance with Russia.

ooc
this will have a mixed effect on the Brazilian economy, as the US is far and away its biggest market. However, Germany and Russia, assuming they do something, will help reduce the economic damage if they start buying from Brazil instead of everyone else. This will reduce the economic effect from disastrous to serious

In that case Brazil will sign the Pan-American treaty.

OOC: Excuse me Galveston Bay but I did sign it. And I signed the alliance with the Russians because Argentina and Colombia were threatening to ally against socialism in the region, i.e me. I never bothered anybody before nor threatened anyone. Again nor am I a threat to Western nations, just look at my location and poor naval fleet. Our only strong part of the military is the French trained army before they hated us. I reiterate I entered the alliance with Russia to protect myself from Argentina and Colombia who were potential aggressors. We will not back down to threats and will maintain our alliance with Russia and our good relations with Germany, we have the moral high ground, a peaceful socialist nation threatened with unprovoked action against us from Argentina and Colombia. And yes I did sign the Pan-American treaty so you can't enforce these things against us. Also there was nothing in the Pan-American treaty stopping me from allying with other country's, please reverse your actions as you are bound to by the treaty that both of our countries signed if you do not want to face ridicule internationally for breaking your own alliance with economic action against a member country.

IC: As Brazil is a signing member of the treaty (OOC: as shown above) we submit that America's economic action violates the following points of the treaty:

3.That all tariffs be halved or even eliminated between the nations of the Western Hemisphere.

You are not allowed by the treaty to carry through your threat of raising tariffs.

5. The United States will not intervene in the internal affairs of the nations of the Western Hemisphere except at the request of the legal government of that nation, and only if approval exists amongst the majority of the nations of the Americas.

The US is interfering by damaging our business, much of which apart from major industries are private.

Please withdraw your economic action now.

IC: As Brazil is a signing member of the treaty (OOC: as shown above) we submit that America's economic action violates the following points of the treaty:

3.That all tariffs be halved or even eliminated between the nations of the Western Hemisphere.

You are not allowed by the treaty to carry through your threat of raising tariffs.

5. The United States will not intervene in the internal affairs of the nations of the Western Hemisphere except at the request of the legal government of that nation, and only if approval exists amongst the majority of the nations of the Americas.

The US is interfering by damaging our business, much of which apart from major industries are private.

Please withdraw your economic action now.

ooc
I checked threads and no where did I see you actually sign it. You expressed reservations, and indicated that you would not defend a regime of any nation you found morally indefensable, but you did not actually sign it. Politically the US has no choice but to act, as the Administration looks bad when you allied with Russia, and Congress is facing election and has to show they are doing something. Besides, tariffs are usually popular domestically (not wise necessarily, but popular).

IC
The US government points out that the Brazilian government only has to end its alliance with Russia to end the tariff policy.

OOC: No, seriously Galveston, I signed it on this thread, page 3, 2nd or 3rd post down. Its right above us.

OOC: France doesn't hate you, Parliament is just P.O.ed that you signed a treaty with Russia. Are you a full communist or just Socialist? If you're just Socialist France doesn't have anythign against you. THey're scared of the Reds, not Socialists.

IC: As a signatory of the Pan-American Treaty France has followed America's lead and increased tarriffs on Brazilian goods and begun withdrawing their military advisors. They are also willing to drop the tariffs and return the military advisors if Brazil drops it's treaty with Russia.

In that case Brazil will sign the Pan-American treaty.

I believe he means this post, GB.

I believe he means this post, GB.


OOC: Thanks Jensai. I really did sign it ages back lol.

OOC: France doesn't hate you, Parliament is just P.O.ed that you signed a treaty with Russia. Are you a full communist or just Socialist? If you're just Socialist France doesn't have anythign against you. THey're scared of the Reds, not Socialists.

IC: As a signatory of the Pan-American Treaty France has followed America's lead and increased tarriffs on Brazilian goods and begun withdrawing their military advisors. They are also willing to drop the tariffs and return the military advisors if Brazil drops it's treaty with Russia.

We are only socialist and want only peaceful relations with the world free from anti-communist threats. We reiterate, WE ARE NOT COMMUNISTS WE ARE SOCIALISTS. All we want is to govern ourselves and help our people. We have never threatened military action and we still refuse to. Now please lower these tariffs, they simply risk angering the ordinary Brazilian people and hardening their resolve against capitalism. The government makes no profit from selling these goods, they are ploughed straight back into industry and public works. For the sake of the ordinary people return the tariffs to regular levels.

(OOC: seriously, I signed the treaty, the other signatory's of the treaty are not allowed to impose these tariffs on us. For those who dont believe we signed it ages ago, check page three of this thread second post down. Thanks.)

Britain, whilst angered by a Brazil-Russia alliance recognises the effects of the pan-am treaty and though she cannot raise tarriffs against Brazilian goods will unofficially contact the Brazilian government to the effect that world peace and cooperation would not benefit from such an alliance that many western nations would view as a hostile act.

President Hughes is greatly annoyed when he has to veto the Brazilian tariff because it violates the Pan American treaty. It does even more to damage his Administration and the Republicans running for office as it makes them look not only inept, but also soft on Communism. Only the fact that tariffs are specifically mentioned in the treaty forces his veto. Brazilian complaints that the US is interfering in their internal affairs are ignored as trade barriers are external.

However there are steps that can be taken, and planning begins. An official note of protest along with a stern warning is sent to Brazil informing them that the presence of Russian troops or warships in Brazilian territory will be deemed a hostile act. A further note is sent reminding the Brazilians that the Treaty is designed to prevent interference from Europe and the United States in the internal affairs of Latin America. But it does not prevent the United States from acting if a Latin American or any other nation poses a clear and present danger to the security of the Western Hemisphere.

The Ambassadors from the other signatory states are called in and the US officially asks for permission by the other Treaty states to intervene.

Proposed American action is as follows:
1. Tariffs against Brazilian goods (as before)
2. Naval blockade (if tariffs don't work)
3. Intervention if the blockade doesnt work.

To prevent this, Brazil merely has to end its alliance with Russia.

ooc
Well, not all of them have a player, so I am going to assume that if Colombia, Mexico, Argentina, Chile, Britian and France (who do have players) say I can act, then unless the mods say that the rest of Latin America who signed the treaty disagree, the US has permission to intervene. Sharina should probably handle this one.

Brazil agrees in principle to the Pan-American treaty, but if Brazil feels she cannot militarily defend a member nation on moral grounds then she reserves the right not to do so. Otherwise, Brazil agrees.

OOC: Right here. Brazil said they agree. The desire to not defend a nation on moral grounds is hypothetical, and would only be dealt with should such an action occur.

So back off my boy!

Colombia will not raise tarriffs as it violates the Pan-Am treatice.

However, long lines at the border prevent much Brazillian Merchandise from entering Colombia before it spoils. Brazillian goods are subject to quality tests to ensure they meet strict guidelines. Thus, most goods do not meet these guidelines, and are turned back.

In return, Colombia has begun 'dumping' cheap coffee, iron, beef, and timber into the Brazilian Markets, which should all but destroy those industries within Brazil.

ooc: Think Canadian Softwood Lumber in the US right now.

ic:
If Brazil claims to be only socialist, why does it align itself with the Reds?

France has lefted it's tarrifs on Brazilian goods and have begun sending thier military advisors back in. Normal trade has resumed. However, they are leaning strongly on the Brazilians to drop the treaty with Russia.

To: The Brazilian Government

We recognize that a nation has the right to dictate it's own policies and trade. However, we strongly encourage you to drop this treaty with Russia. YOu are, after all, no communists. Communism is the new threat to a free world. ALready it has engulfed Germany and Russia. Be wary and on the look out for Communist agigtators. Parliament will be forced to back the American's plan if you continue to support Russia. Please, do what is right for your country and its people.

Your Friend,
Alexandre Milerand, Prime Minister of France

Parthini']OOC: Right here. Brazil said they agree. The desire to not defend a nation on moral grounds is hypothetical, and would only be dealt with should such an action occur.

So back off my boy!

ooc
sigh.. it was handled IC in my post... the US isn't going to back down though, just shift strategy

President Hughes is greatly annoyed when he has to veto the Brazilian tariff because it violates the Pan American treaty. It does even more to damage his Administration and the Republicans running for office as it makes them look not only inept, but also soft on Communism. Only the fact that tariffs are specifically mentioned in the treaty forces his veto. Brazilian complaints that the US is interfering in their internal affairs are ignored as trade barriers are external.

However there are steps that can be taken, and planning begins. An official note of protest along with a stern warning is sent to Brazil informing them that the presence of Russian troops or warships in Brazilian territory will be deemed a hostile act. A further note is sent reminding the Brazilians that the Treaty is designed to prevent interference from Europe and the United States in the internal affairs of Latin America. But it does not prevent the United States from acting if a Latin American or any other nation poses a clear and present danger to the security of the Western Hemisphere.

The Ambassadors from the other signatory states are called in and the US officially asks for permission by the other Treaty states to intervene.

Proposed American action is as follows:
1. Tariffs against Brazilian goods (as before)
2. Naval blockade (if tariffs don't work)
3. Intervention if the blockade doesnt work.

To prevent this, Brazil merely has to end its alliance with Russia.

ooc
Well, not all of them have a player, so I am going to assume that if Colombia, Mexico, Argentina, Chile, Britian and France (who do have players) say I can act, then unless the mods say that the rest of Latin America who signed the treaty disagree, the US has permission to intervene. Sharina should probably handle this one.




There are no Russian troops or ships in our waters. Nor are there plans to. There is simply provision for them to be there if we are attacked. Which we aren't. Also even if you ask other nations to intervene it says in the treaty that my government must also agree if you want to intervene. We naturally withhold that permission. The reason I entered into this alliance was to prevent attack from Columbia and Argentina, it is a defence alliance and it is not a hostile act as it does not provide for me invading other countries with the support of Russia. If I did Russia would be under no obligation whatsoever to support me. Just to make it clear Brazil has never ever had any hostile intentions with any other country. Period.

To Colombia, we align ourselves with 'Reds' because anti communists would choose to align against us. For example yourself and Argentina.

To France and Great Britain
We thank you for being the first countries in the pan american treaty to think sensibly and to realise that we are not violating the pan american agreement. WE JUST WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE AND GOVERN OURSELVES. Free from threat of anti communist pacts. That was our main reason for the alliance. As soon as Germany went communist there were pacts and anti communist treaties being made all over the world. We took this as a natural reaction of your countries. Fair enough. We then however, became perturbed as Colombia and Argentina began discussing anti communist pacts with me as the obvious target. We have been labelled communist too many times to count and we do not appreciate the intolerant attitude of some countries concerning other countries system of government that has nothing to do with them. Still, we thank Great Britain and France for standing by us somewhat when we need friends the most.

TO ALL NATIONS:

Please think hard before making further moves over this. You do not need have affirmative action against Brazil. We give you our word that you can interfere with our nation as much as you like if armed Russian troops or naval vessels enter our waters/lands and our country is not under immediate threat of attack by a foreign power. We give this assurance to the world that there will not be Russian troops on our soil without threat of invasion. In return for this token of good faith Brazil would like to see tariffs restored to previous levels and a change of attitude as concerning military action against us or Russia or Germany.

We repeat. It is our solemn promise that without direct attack there will be no Russian armed troops on out lands or naval vessels in our waters. Now please, for the sake of world peace and the ordinary Brazilian people, restore tariffs and remove the possibility of military action against us.

Deepest Regards.

Originally Posted by Artitsa
In return, Colombia has begun 'dumping' cheap coffee, iron, beef, and timber into the Brazilian Markets, which should all but destroy those industries within Brazil.

Not true. Most of this Industries in Brasil are actually focused on the international. So most of the coffe we produce actualy is comsume by the USA, and we continually drink coffe from Columbia or other South American country

ooc: That made no sense. I can still under sell Brazilian Coffee in the United States and much of Europe.

The United States government insists that the Brazilian government clarify its position.

Under the Pan American Treaty, which you have reaffirmed your commitment too, the treaty nations are required to come to your defense if you are attacked. Therefore, why does the Brazilian government feel it is necessary to sign a military alliance with the Russian government?

The conventional wisdom is that alliances are two way. If you are attacked then Russia is supposed to come to your aid. Which implies that if Russia is attacked you are supposed to come to its aid. In the event of a war between the United States with Russia, the United States would indeed attack Russia. Or be attacked by Russia. Either is likely and both are probable. So that means under the Pan American Treaty you are required to come to the aid of the United States. Which will be difficult if you are also coming to the aid of Russia.

The United States government insists that Brazil pick a side. Either reject the Russian military alliance and remain under the protection of the Pan American Treaty, or reject the Pan American Treaty and remain under Russian protection. With the strong likelihood of hostile neighbors as a result.

The United States government has not interferred with your governments actions until this time. If the Russian alliance is ended, than relations will return to normal.

If the Brazilian government decides to become neutral, and pull away from both alliances, than the United States offers to ensure that no one will interfere with your internal affairs as long as you do not interfere with the internal affairs of your neighbors. Even without the Pan American treaty, the United States will continue to enforce the Monroe Doctrine.

But you must choose. If Brazil remains allied militarily with Russian by the end of 1920, then the United States will be forced to take appropriate measures.

To The Government of Brazil

Dear Sirs,

Brazil has France's full support in South America. If Columbia and Argentina think they can attack you under the excuse of "Communism" then they are mistaken. Your nation is not communist (although it is socialist). Besides, any attack against you by either of those nations would, I believe, require me to intervene on you behalf due tothe Pan-American Treaty. Please, do not worry about them. If they attack you France will personally step in. And please, withdraw from this foolish military alliance with Russia.

Your Friend,
Alexandre Milerand, Prime Minster of France

It is not the Union's wish to see our Brazilian comrades suffer at the hands of these war-mongering exploiters. In time Socialism will be strong enough to stand openly against those who would destroy us, but that time might not be yet. We do not wish to see the Brazilian Revolution defeated by overreaching, so if you wish to withdraw from our treaty, we will understand.
It enrages us, of course, to see such unmitigated and utterly unjustified hate towards our cause radiating from the leaders of the so-called "Free World," but though there are those within our government who advocate assertive action now, the Supreme Council has considered and determined that peace must first be tried. Only thus will we not betray our principles. Peace will surely fail in the long run - the enemy is too committed, too filled with hatred and corruption. But in the long run we will only become stronger, while the enemy weakens in his parasitical disease.
When the time comes, the Union will, regardless of what steps Brazil may take at this time, remember you as our allies and friends. Our trade compact will remain unaffected, in any event.
To the Ultimate Victory of Justice Over Tyranny.

- Supreme Council of the Union of Social-Democratic Republics

The following speach is printed in Argentine papers in Portuguise and Spanish

President Ramon Sanfuentes: I would like to take the time to assure everyone that Argentina has NOT threatened Brazil in any way, but only have increased our military budget in response to the largest nation on the continent increasing theirs. The Republic of Argentina would remain on good terms with Brazil, were it not for their military buildup in an otherwise quiet region of the world. It is our fervent hope that all this can be resolved peacably by frank and open discussion.

It is not the Union's wish to see our Brazilian comrades suffer at the hands of these war-mongering exploiters. In time Socialism will be strong enough to stand openly against those who would destroy us, but that time might not be yet. We do not wish to see the Brazilian Revolution defeated by overreaching, so if you wish to withdraw from our treaty, we will understand.
It enrages us, of course, to see such unmitigated and utterly unjustified hate towards our cause radiating from the leaders of the so-called "Free World," but though there are those within our government who advocate assertive action now, the Supreme Council has considered and determined that peace must first be tried. Only thus will we not betray our principles. Peace will surely fail in the long run - the enemy is too committed, too filled with hatred and corruption. But in the long run we will only become stronger, while the enemy weakens in his parasitical disease.
When the time comes, the Union will, regardless of what steps Brazil may take at this time, remember you as our allies and friends. Our trade compact will remain unaffected, in any event.
To the Ultimate Victory of Justice Over Tyranny.

- Supreme Council of the Union of Social-Democratic Republics



I believe that we must follow the points made by Russia. We are not happy about being forced out of this but needs must when the devil haunts the minds of many of our warmongering neighbours. We formally withdraw from our military alliance with Russia as of now and expect an immediate restoration of tariffs. We thank France and Great Britain for their clear thinking during this affair and we hope that the world now sees that the USA is prepared to go to any lengths to subdue opposition to its rule, even attempting to manouvre around its own treaty to get to its on ends. A country that has never had any problems with the USA has been put under pressure because of our choice of friends and governments. Shame on them. Hopefully a more enlightened administration will be voted in in the coming election by the American people who we know to be not as rotten or hate filled as their leaders.

Anyway, back to practical matters. The military alliance with Russia is over now. Nevertheless, we still hold our commercial treaty signed previously which is in no way military. However, the tarriffs that were imposed have grevously affected our economy, we can rebuild in around 6 months but it would be quicker with Western aid. Our people have suffered and this crisis has exposed our deficiency in some of our industry and medical services to cope with a crisis imposed on us. We request Western aid to build a thoroughly modern healthcare and to improve the efficiency of our industry. We believe we are owed this for the damage inflicted on our economy and the mistrust towards us by certain nations. This is aimed mainly at France, Britain and yes, the USA as well. We need our public services improved, our government is doing the job but we are a fairly poor country further damaged by the recent tariffs. I am asking for a coalition of aid from those three country's to improve inner city healthcare and industrial practice.

Also we thank providence for a peaceful resolution here and Russia for her eternal friendship which we shall duplicate duly even though a military reliance is unfeasible.

ooc
actually the tariffs didn't go into effect as even though they cleared Congress, they were vetoed and did not go into law... so no economic harm by US government action. Although its possible some secondary effects occured as buyers in the US looked for other suppliers of Brazilian goods.

IC
The US Government privately informs the Brazilian government that economic aid to Brazil has no chance of getting through Congress at this time. However, previously low tariffs are once again in effect and with time American buyers will return, those that left in any case.

Dear
Brazil

If you want to go to war go ahead and attack. The countries of Colombia, Chile, Boliva, and Ecuador will attack. Who cares how big your country is. It matters how big your army is. Plus who is your closes ally? The other anti-communist will help and bring you down.

From
Jose Luis Tamayo

To: Brazilian Government
From: Rosa Bautista Saavedra Mallea, President of Bolivia

We would like to make clear that Bolivia is nuetral and is not part of Ecuador's alliance and does not wish to be part of it.

Brazil, conterary to belief, Colombia does not want war at this point in time.

Dear
Brazil

If you want to go to war go ahead and attack. The countries of Colombia, Chile, Boliva, and Ecuador will attack. Who cares how big your country is. It matters how big your army is. Plus who is your closes ally? The other anti-communist will help and bring you down.

From
Jose Luis Tamayo

The United States government does hereby inform the government of Ecuador that its threats against Brazil are endangering the peace of Latin America, and that if Ecuador conducts military operations against Brazil the US would have to side with Brazil under the Pan American Treaty, unless the majority of the Pan American treaty nations call for that action. A mandate that has not yet emerged.

I don't want a war i just wanted to make a point.

Attention All:


Zeeeland has been deleted from NS due to inactivity.

In recent times, relations with our Neighbor, Brazil, has considerably.. nosedived. After careful consideration of not only the people of Brazil and Colombia, but all the people of South America, it has been decided that such poltical practices in use by Colombia against Brazil were unwarrented.

Thus, any trade barriers that exist between Colombia and Brazil will be knocked down; Colombia is even promising economic and social aid to Brazil, in rue of the possible reprocussions of Colombian business practices.

We recognize the fact that Brazil is not Communist, rather Socialist. This is close to the line, but the fact remains its still on the democratic side. And thus, and action taking by Colombia would be unjust. The alliance with Russia did prove to be a very negative occurance with Colombia, but your willingess to give it up in order to maintain good relations is a testiment to your Honor and Prestige, values true to any good South American.

In recent times, relations with our Neighbor, Brazil, has considerably.. nosedived. After careful consideration of not only the people of Brazil and Colombia, but all the people of South America, it has been decided that such poltical practices in use by Colombia against Brazil were unwarrented.

Thus, any trade barriers that exist between Colombia and Brazil will be knocked down; Colombia is even promising economic and social aid to Brazil, in rue of the possible reprocussions of Colombian business practices.

We recognize the fact that Brazil is not Communist, rather Socialist. This is close to the line, but the fact remains its still on the democratic side. And thus, and action taking by Colombia would be unjust. The alliance with Russia did prove to be a very negative occurance with Colombia, but your willingess to give it up in order to maintain good relations is a testiment to your Honor and Prestige, values true to any good South American.


Brazil thanks Colombia for her words and will return the compliment by praising the restraint of her government with the strange activities of the Ecuadorian government. We will similarily lower tariffs for Colombian goods and wish also to sign a non agression agreement with a nation we really should be friends with.

Regards.

In regards to the current tension in south America, we ask Brazil to consider a defensive alliance to ensure the saftey of both our nations.

Yours faithfully, Armando Hernendez, Defence minister, Mexico

In regards to the current tension in south America, we ask Brazil to consider a defensive alliance to ensure the saftey of both our nations.

Yours faithfully, Armando Hernendez, Defence minister, Mexico


In our opinion a defensive alliance would only up the tension as a block of alliances could be created that would eventually be in competition. Instead we ask for a non-aggression pact, this would be a better move towards peace as it does not risk antagonising other alliances.

Regards.

As you wish, we will sign a non-agression pact at once. I feel that the left leaning nations of the Americas should look out for one another, especially with loose cannons like Ecuador around.

Yours faithfully, Armando Hernendez, Defence minister, Mexico

As you wish, we will sign a non-agression pact at once. I feel that the left leaning nations of the Americas should look out for one another, especially with loose cannons like Ecuador around.

Yours faithfully, Armando Hernendez, Defence minister, Mexico

We do indeed sympathise with your politics as they are obviously similar to ours, however we must not get into an 'us against the world' mentality. Our government for one does not wish to export our brand of government by anything other than a shining example of democratic socialism and not by military means. We maintain a large and well trained standing army because of the presence of so many right wing South American nations, but at the same time we would not wish defeat on their governments. Still, consider the non aggression pact signed and relations between our countries strengthened.

Regards,
Brazils Politburo and Parliament.

Thankyou, but i must also stress that Mexico is not advocating war or the breaking of relations with any right wing nation of America. We are simply stating that in these difficult times it is always a good idea to have friends.

Thankyou, but i must also stress that Mexico is not advocating war or the breaking of relations with any right wing nation of America. We are simply stating that in these difficult times it is always a good idea to have friends.

Of course, we understand this fully and are glad now to be closer friends with a nation we value dearly as our friend.

State of the Nation update:

International

Very Close links: Russia
Close links: Germany, Mexico, France, Great Britain.
Good terms: Colombia (recently), Argentina, Chile, South Africa.
Neutral or no contact: Nations not mentioned here + Bolivia, China, Australia, America (since new election), Spain, Portugal.
Bad Terms: Italy (suspicious of anti left wing feeling but bad feelings now fading with time, soon will be on neutral terms), Ecuador (one more sniff of anti communist military proposals and we will be severely pissed).

Economy

Matto Grosso region currently undergoing huge construction program with French and British help, construction will take 3 years to complete, the following two years will balance the books with foreign creditors before the factories start to make a profit for Brazil. Industry's here will mainly be concerned with coal, iron, steel and munitions production. Hopefully for export to fund social projects within the nation. Such as road building and other public works, such as the ever important conservation works even as logging is another of our largest industry's.

With aid from Russia giving us new agricultural equipment and new methods in that field our biggest industry has grown exponentionally. Coffee is a huge export, mainly to the United States though as relations grow with other countries such as Mexico, Spain, Germany and Russia it is expected that these country's will soon be buying lots of our agricultural produce.

There is some local industry constructed with some of the capital gained from increased agricultural revenue, though 30million US Dollars of this capital has been set aside to aid the construction of the Matto Grosso industrial district. 50million US Dollars were needed and the other 20million was provided with loans from Great Britain and France, as well as construction aid.

Healthcare has been invested in greatly by the government but only with the arrival of British and French medical personnel to train our staff has our medical program really taken off. The previously empty hospitals are now staffed by a burgeoning new medical corps and although only in its infancy, our medical program aims to provide one of the lowest doctor to patient ratios in South America. Especially in rural Brazil where there is a notoriously poor healthcare system.

Also, again with aid from Russia a modern rail network has been set up to link the coastal cities of Brazil and to provide decent communications with the rest of the country. This will also help military movements should the case arise.

Problems with the country include still crippling poverty in many industrial areas, though extensive welfare programs are alleviating this somewhat as well as public works programs. There is lower unemployment now than ever in rural areas thanks to expanded agriculture but there is some resentment about the new machines taking over some jobs. The main political opposition lies in some urban conurbations as nationalist activists protest against welfare schemes and call for the use of Brazil's extensive military capability to be used against her neighbours. They clash frequently with the communists who say the welfare isnt going far enough and that most if not all private industry should be nationalised.

Nevertheless the country is in a stable political positio with a fairly strong Socialist majority in parliament backed up by the Green Party, the third largest party with strong support in rural areas. They vote with the Socialists on most issues, just as the second party, the Conservative Alliance, vote mainly with the Nationalist Union, the fourth and very much minority party with mainly underground support in some urban areas and little Parlimentary say. As of now the Politburo contains 4 Socialist Party members, 2 Green Party members and 2 from the Conservative Alliance. The Socialist's and Greens tend to vote together in the Politburo and Parliament through the fear of a combined Nationalist and Conservative vote used to push their own agenda.

Just to make our political situation clear, the Politburo is elected through the proportionate number of votes each party receives while the Parliament is elected through a First Past The Post system (OOC: think Britain in modern times for my Parliament). The President currently is Sr. Manuel Lafuentes and as the Socialist Party has a Parliamentary majority, Lafuentes is the country's Socialist President.

( OOC: Hope this makes some things clearer about my nation. Comments appreciated. Thanks :) )

ooc
as one of the economic moderators, my only criticism is that Brazil is depending very heavily on a stable world situation to pay off all of its loans. If the price of coffee craters for example (and commedities do that frequently), or a general recession or disruption of the world economy occurs, the rather complex situation Brazil depends on will crumple quickly.

Historic examples are the Latin American debt problems that have troubled them the last 50 years. Failure to pay off loans leads to massive currency devaluation in the world economy which means the value of exports plummets in relation to the cost of imports, inability to get more loans, inability to pay interest, or being forced to pay loans to get more loans, or cut drastically government spending to do so (which has unhappy domestic side effects).

ooc
as one of the economic moderators, my only criticism is that Brazil is depending very heavily on a stable world situation to pay off all of its loans. If the price of coffee craters for example (and commedities do that frequently), or a general recession or disruption of the world economy occurs, the rather complex situation Brazil depends on will crumple quickly.

Historic examples are the Latin American debt problems that have troubled them the last 50 years. Failure to pay off loans leads to massive currency devaluation in the world economy which means the value of exports plummets in relation to the cost of imports, inability to get more loans, inability to pay interest, or being forced to pay loans to get more loans, or cut drastically government spending to do so (which has unhappy domestic side effects).


Yea totally I see your point, however we do have economically powerful allies such as Germany/Russia who could bail us out if we were on the verge of collapse but the world economic situation seems okay at the moment. Not good, since war is just over but I think it can only go up bar disaster. Still, I will have my fingers crossed for five years while we slowly repay our debts to France and Britain, the debt will get less every year obviously as it is paid off in 2million dollar instalments a year but yes as you say the fear is there, just for us fingers crossed for a couple of years I think.

OOC: Of course, our government has cut spending as a security prior to the loans, note we only took out the loans once our rail network and agricultural advancement was complete thanks to Russia, as well as once we had finished paying the 2 South Afrikan Kommando units for their training of our men so that money has stopped going out as well. Also we do have significant British private investment in the country as well as the Matto Grosso region developments. So we have actually cut government spending prior to the loans (a left wing government cutting spending :eek: :D lmao)

Dear
Brazil

I formally apolgize about the anti-communist pact. I'm not going to make a pact. I will also keep to my self. The Tenth Kommando will not go through your country, but the Panama Canal. I will hope we have a peace between are countries. But I do think we should create a pact between the South American countries if they are in need of help. If we create a pact between Brazil, Ecuador, Chile, Colombia, Argentina, Bolivia, and Zion it might show how other countries that we can work together. The country that is in most need of our help is Bolivia. Bolivia has just came out of war. So send any thing that you can to Bolivia. I hope one day all South American countries can work together.

From
Jose Luis

Dear
Brazil

I formally apolgize about the anti-communist pact. I'm not going to make a pact. I will also keep to my self. The Tenth Kommando will not go through your country, but the Panama Canal. I will hope we have a peace between are countries. But I do think we should create a pact between the South American countries if they are in need of help. If we create a pact between Brazil, Ecuador, Chile, Colombia, Argentina, Bolivia, and Zion it might show how other countries that we can work together. The country that is in most need of our help is Bolivia. Bolivia has just came out of war. So send any thing that you can to Bolivia. I hope one day all South American countries can work together.

From
Jose Luis Tamayo

Dear
Brazil

I formally apolgize about the anti-communist pact. I'm not going to make a pact. I will also keep to my self. The Tenth Kommando will not go through your country, but the Panama Canal. I will hope we have a peace between are countries. But I do think we should create a pact between the South American countries if they are in need of help. If we create a pact between Brazil, Ecuador, Chile, Colombia, Argentina, Bolivia, and Zion it might show how other countries that we can work together. The country that is in most need of our help is Bolivia. Bolivia has just came out of war. So send any thing that you can to Bolivia. I hope one day all South American countries can work together.

From
Jose Luis Tamayo

I thank you for making Mexico backing down from attacking me. I want peace between are countries.

Dear
Brazil

I formally apolgize about the anti-communist pact. I'm not going to make a pact. I will also keep to my self. The Tenth Kommando will not go through your country, but the Panama Canal. I will hope we have a peace between are countries. But I do think we should create a pact between the South American countries if they are in need of help. If we create a pact between Brazil, Ecuador, Chile, Colombia, Argentina, Bolivia, and Zion it might show how other countries that we can work together. The country that is in most need of our help is Bolivia. Bolivia has just came out of war. So send any thing that you can to Bolivia. I hope one day all South American countries can work together.

From
Jose Luis Tamayo


We do not wish to sign any alliances at the present with a country so opposed to us in political ideaology. A better gesture could be a 2million US Dollar investment in our industry, this would allow Ecuadorian businesses to make profit in the country and would also go some way to easing our foreign debt.

Following on from our last comment, Brazil would like to appeal for foreign investorsm we need to make up a 20million US dollar foreign debt and investment in our currently under construction Matto Grosso industrail district would return a profit for your nations once it is completed in the next three years and would help us greatly. Any investment will be considered as there is a lot of space in the district for factories and businesses etc. and we are willing to allow foreign investment here from now.

Deepest Regards,
Brazil's Parliament and Politburo.

Dear
Brazil

The Ecuadorian government invests 2 million dollars into your countries Industries.

From
Jose Luis Tamayo

Dear
Brazil

The Ecuadorian government invests 2 million dollars into your countries Industries.

From
Jose Luis Tamayo

Your investment is much appreciated, you may begin construction of your factories in the district whenever it suits you. Any more investors?

Regards.

The Worker's Republic will donate $6 Million to our allies in favor of closer partnership.

Parthini']The Worker's Republic will donate $6 Million to our allies in favor of closer partnership.

The Brazilian government is overwhelmed by this gesture and wishes peace upon the Republic and hopes to see them soon at the Cordoba Conference.

With the 8million US dollars raised from external sources Brazil hereby pays back 4million dollars each to Great Britain and France from our loan.

To: Brazilian Government
From: Rosa Bautista Saavedra Mallea, Bolivain President

Due to the world's political situation, we would like to propose a non-agression pact with Brazil. We will withdrawl all of our border gaurds and other millitary personel from the Brazilian-Bolivian border if you do like-wise. We are peace-loving nation and wish to help South America become a stable region of the world.

OOC: I didn't know soldiers could REACH the Brazil/Bolivian boarder... Isn't that mostly rainforest and mountain?

OOC: I didn't know soldiers could REACH the Brazil/Bolivian boarder... Isn't that mostly rainforest and mountain?

yes it is, but if there is a will, there is a way I suppose. Seriously the logistics would be rough, nothing but light infantry with high death rates from disease and other problems. But if you want to spend the troops, you could do it

To: Brazilian Government
From: Rosa Bautista Saavedra Mallea, Bolivain President

Due to the world's political situation, we would like to propose a non-agression pact with Brazil. We will withdrawl all of our border gaurds and other millitary personel from the Brazilian-Bolivian border if you do like-wise. We are peace-loving nation and wish to help South America become a stable region of the world.


We don't employ border guards there. We have police in the region but no real border guards. We are pleased at this sign of non aggression nonetheless but first wish to enquire the state of your nations politics?

To: Brazilian Government
From: Rosa Bautista Saavedra Mallea, Bolivain President

The nation and our government has now stablelized, and the economy is now starting to improve. We have remained silent when asked what we would do about the Venezuelen Crisis. We want this pact to be the begining of an age of peace in South America.

To: Brazilian Government
From: Rosa Bautista Saavedra Mallea, Bolivain President

The nation and our government has now stablelized, and the economy is now starting to improve. We have remained silent when asked what we would do about the Venezuelen Crisis. We want this pact to be the begining of an age of peace in South America.

In that case we will sign a non-aggression pact and look forward to stable relations with your nation.

Deepest Regards,
Brazil's Parliament and Politburo.

Telegram from Chaim Weizmann to Brazil

In light of recent events we feel that we may have been a bit hasty in determining friend from foe, the rumors of your nations red tint forced me to consider whether or not you could be trusted, I have now learned that we are all neighbours on this continent and we should all work for South America, I would like to put all past hostilities behind us, what say you?

France is willing to buy surplus coffee from you if you can no longer find a suitable market in the Americas.

Telegram from Chaim Weizmann to Brazil

In light of recent events we feel that we may have been a bit hasty in determining friend from foe, the rumors of your nations red tint forced me to consider whether or not you could be trusted, I have now learned that we are all neighbours on this continent and we should all work for South America, I would like to put all past hostilities behind us, what say you?

Of course, we have great respect for the Jewish state and its people. We are grateful for your attitude and return it a hundred times. We wish for nothing but peace with the world but these are dangerous times. Nevertheless, we are proud to count your nation as a friend.

France is willing to buy surplus coffee from you if you can no longer find a suitable market in the Americas.


We are happy to acknowledge your support for our scheme, it will benefit both of our nations and we must all lean on eachother for help. Although poor, anything you need from our nation is yours.

Krasnaya Zvezda, Moskva - 12 V 1922

BRITISH PRIME MINISTER OPENLY MOCKS THE HUNGER OF THE POOR

While the drought in Ukraine has as yet claimed few lives, nevertheless it has ruined many poor families and brought crushing poverty into the lives of tens of thousands more who had earlier prospered.

The rest of world has responded to the government's declaration of a state of emergency and decisive action by contributing aid or at least offering to sell grain for distribution to the poor. Even Colombia, putting aside a longtime hostility, has donated perhaps the largest contribution to the relief effort so far, while the United States has opened its markets to Union relief agencies.

Yesterday the British Prime Minister delivered the United Kingdom's gift to the Ukrainian people directly to the Union Embassy. What was it? A crate of caviar, a sack of potatoes, and a note suggesting that "perhaps [they] should be sent back to the Russian Empire [sic] to help feed the people of Ukraine."

Can there yet remain any question as to the moral distinction between the Socialist and capitalist modes of thought?

The Republic of Haiti wishes to open relations with Brazil. We have valuable coffee, sugar, and bauxite up for trade. In return, we require silver, copper, cement, lumber, and steel. We also are in need of skilled workers to help train our citizens(teachers, engineers, doctors...).

Encoded Telegram to the Brazilian Government

As you have recently withdrawn from the Pan American Treaty and as a result are no longer protected from attack by some of your more paranoi neighbors (i.e. Colombia) France is willing to sign a mutual dfense treaty with Brazil.

With Tensions growing with Brazil, Colombia offers a formal Non-Aggression Pact to Brazil. Talks in private could commence should the Brazillians show interest.

With Tensions growing with Brazil, Colombia offers a formal Non-Aggression Pact to Brazil. Talks in private could commence should the Brazillians show interest.


We would be glad to accept this pact on the condition that the Colombian government withdraws ANY influence it has on the elections in Venezuela and lets the election be observed by a completely neutral power.

ooc: I'm not really sure who is observing the elctions I have been off NS for a couple of days.

The Republic of Haiti wishes to open relations with Brazil. We have valuable coffee, sugar, and bauxite up for trade. In return, we require silver, copper, cement, lumber, and steel. We also are in need of skilled workers to help train our citizens(teachers, engineers, doctors...).


We will gladly open relations but our economies are probably too similar for any lasting trade agreements. Also, we are only just developing our medical corps with European aid and most of our engineers are busy with the construction of a massive industrial region so we can't really do much for you at the moment. We regret this situation and will let you know if it changes.

We would be glad to accept this pact on the condition that the Colombian government withdraws ANY influence it has on the elections in Venezuela and lets the election be observed by a completely neutral power.

ooc: I'm not really sure who is observing the elctions I have been off NS for a couple of days.

There was never any influence, and the original plan called for neutral observers to ensure fair voting.

There was never any influence, and the original plan called for neutral observers to ensure fair voting.



Well there obviously would be influence, not intentional maybe but the presence of foreign military may make sympathisers with their cause vote more favourably to a party that looks kinder on the occupying forces. Anyway, consider the pact signed.

Well there obviously would be influence, not intentional maybe but the presence of foreign military may make sympathisers with their cause vote more favourably to a party that looks kinder on the occupying forces. Anyway, consider the pact signed.

My military is leaving Venezeula in about a month, and the vote is taking place in about a year. So yeah... no influence.

We will gladly open relations but our economies are probably too similar for any lasting trade agreements. Also, we are only just developing our medical corps with European aid and most of our engineers are busy with the construction of a massive industrial region so we can't really do much for you at the moment. We regret this situation and will let you know if it changes.
We hope that your nation is able to become powerful and we hope to be a long-time ally.

secret IC
The US government is providing assistance to US corporations that are unhappy with the Brazilian government. Included in that assistance are arms purchased on the world market by third parties from Europe, and that assistance, as well as substantial sums of money, is being provided by several large corporations to unhappy or concerned landowners and industrialists in Brazil who have a more right wing political bent.

ooc
Vas will referee what happens next. The US was very unhappy about the results of the Spanish conference after reading the decoded diplomatic cable its codebreakers intercepted.

secret IC
The US government is providing assistance to US corporations that are unhappy with the Brazilian government. Included in that assistance are arms purchased on the world market by third parties from Europe, and that assistance, as well as substantial sums of money, is being provided by several large corporations to unhappy or concerned landowners and industrialists in Brazil who have a more right wing political bent.

ooc
Vas will referee what happens next. The US was very unhappy about the results of the Spanish conference after reading the decoded diplomatic cable its codebreakers intercepted.


ooc: sorry that I might have missed something or are sounding stupid but why are you doing this again?

The Ecuadorian government is keeping the army in Venezuela. I don't have to listen to you Brazil. Plus this troops are here for help. Venezuela doesn't even have an army. So my troops will stay.

From
Jose Luis Tamayo

Quito Daily News

1922
President Jose Tamayo plans on building a military base in Venezuela. It will be located near the capital. It will fort will hold 5,000 men. It will take a least two years to be finished. He also said after the fort is done all troops will leave, execpt a 5,000 men force.

ooc: sorry that I might have missed something or are sounding stupid but why are you doing this again?
This is new. Before he declared an embargo, now he's fomenting a counter-revolution.
As to why, he mentions it - American and British spies were aware of even the Secret Protocols of the Cordoba Treaty, but they can't diplomatically object without showing their hand. (Moscow was made aware of this by their own spies, by the way, and they're currently trying to find the leaks . . .)
Moreover, the wave of anti-Americanism in the governments of Latin America has Washington concerned, and - just as importantly - it has American private enterprise and Wall Street's local Latin American feudal and "pro-business" running-dogs concerned. Add to that Pope denouncing Socialism as the Religion of Antichrist on an almost daily basis, and, yes, counter-revolution is quite possible in most of Latin America . . . As the World Leader in Communism, I really hate to say that, but it's true.

In Brazil, specifically, Rio controls the Army, so the Brazilians have an advantage there that many Latin Americans wouldn't. Conversely, the government's control over the hinterland is virtually non-existent. Really, the landowners had their own feudal states out there even before socialism came to Rio, and in RL even today the landowners practically run semi-independent feudal states out there.
It's easy to smuggle arms to them, as well, since the wilderness is so vast. Another advantage that the government has, however, is that the landowners tend to be brutal, barbaric men, who rule more by terror than noblesse oblige. On the other hand, they have an advantage with religion, and with being hard to get to.
I'll have to research more specifics on Brazil in the 1920's before I can provide a lot of details about what's likely to happen. For now, I'd figure that Rio's control in the countryside, never great to begin with, is noticeably slipping. Lawmen and officials and military personnel out there are starting to disappear or be assassinated. Peasants won't talk to the government about what's going on for fear of reprisals and for the sake of their immortal souls.

Brazil's Glorious Leader, to my knowledge, never really attempted land reform. The Politburo that replaced him is in process of that, with Russian help, but that would probably have provoked violence soon even without American interference - in Russia, after all, where a similar situation existed, the landowners all got killed or fled during the Civil War. So, as Ref, I repeat, Brazilian landowners are beginning to organize themselves and a Shadow Government. They haven't made any major strikes yet, but they are commencing to eliminate government control over the countryside, and they will probably succeed, at least for the next few months depending on Rio's reaction.

Secret IC:
In the light of recent information, the Brazilian Government has decided to take action against the radical group of pro American terrorists who continue to resist our rule. Army units judged to be the least sympathetic to the landowners have been mobilised. Those judged least reliable will be sent on retraining exercises around area's of high government control. The elite special troop has been mobilised, one division of these soldiers is being prepared for immediate action while the other 35,000 are being readied for action in the rest of the country. Brazil's Government will not tolerate such open dissent as is shown by the neo-fuedal landlords currently oppressing the ones who need help the most. Lucrative government building and business contracts have been offered in the developing Matto Grosso region to business leaders who remain loyal to the government, otherwise, a special tribunal consisting of leading trade union leaders and big business leaders will convene to judge businessmen in connection with the abuse of their powers that are believed mainly to be congregating in areas where government control is lax. Accused members of the business class not attending the tribunal will be judged in absentia and if neccesary they will be detained forcibly. The tribunals will start immediately and the government, though reluctant as ever to use force, will employ it if neccesary. There are grave reports of abuse of responsibility by businessmen in areas further from the capital and if these claims are founded the punishment will be severe and swift.

The schools and colleges set up by the German nation in our country in 1908 have produced a crop of businessmen that are being groomed by the government to take over from dispossesed landowners that are judged to have been abusing their power. Our Government tolerates dissent, but when armed rebels begin massing there will be a kickback from the rightful Government. Members of the country's Parliament and Politburo will be barred from taking over the positions vacated by corrupt landowners but all politicians will do their utmost to put down this growing unrest in the further reaches of the nation.

Two taskforces of 40,000 men each are being prepared for use against any organised offensive that arises in the country as well as the 10,000 strong elite unit that is readying itself for immediate assault on positions regarded to be harbouring rebels.

Quito Daily News

1922
President Jose Tamayo plans on building a military base in Venezuela. It will be located near the capital. It will fort will hold 5,000 men. It will take a least two years to be finished. He also said after the fort is done all troops will leave, execpt a 5,000 men force.


Why will 5,000 men be left? Surely a working police force will be up and running by then?

ooc
one reason Sao Paulo was built (its an artificially created city after all, at least originally) was to move government authority further inland by the way. Look up to see when that happened and why.

(I am assuming this is the right place to post this)

Secret encoded message to the rebellion's leaders:

In light of the recent situation in your country, we, the government of Bolivia, have decided to support your rebellion. We will send you anything you need to tople the Brazilian government from power. Arms, supplies, money, anything you need but men, which will be sent depending on if you win victories or not, but not at the present time. All that we ask of you is if you do succeed in your goals to kick the socialists out of power, you will cede us the province of Acre in return for the aid we sent you. We hope you accept our offer.

From, the Bolivian government

(I am assuming this is the right place to post this)

Secret encoded message to the rebellion's leaders:

In light of the recent situation in your country, we, the government of Bolivia, have decided to support your rebellion. We will send you anything you need to tople the Brazilian government from power. Arms, supplies, money, anything you need but men, which will be sent depending on if you win victories or not, but not at the present time. All that we ask of you is if you do succeed in your goals to kick the socialists out of power, you will cede us the province of Acre in return for the aid we sent you. We hope you accept our offer.

From, the Bolivian government


ooc: yes its the right place but you do realise you are reneging on our non-aggression pact if you do this don't you? and if you are found out, which you will be once rebel leaders are questioned as to where they got their weapons and money, that you will be in serious shit?

Manaus. That was the centre of resistance. Government authority had waned there terribly in recent months. It started with ignorance of Capitol's decrees and with sympathy to the local landowners but they were forced to take notice as the business tribunals hastily convened. However, the landowners seemed to have deemed the time was right for open defiance. Seemingly with the approval of some foreign powers, they armed themselves and, in a disgusting atrocity, seven members of the tribunal were slaughtered in broad daylight. As they sat in the conference hall of Macapo, several balaclava'd thugs carrying Bolivian arms calling themselves the National Popular Movement dragged the tribunal members outside. In full view of the watching public, the tribunal members were shot one by one before their bodies were hoisted atop street signs and set alight. Action, Brazilian fighting Brazilian, would finally occur.


The Brazilian Army was preparing for its first major operation in years, and it would be on home soil. The two task forces, Beta and Gamma, would be under the control of their own General's, General Felix and General Miranda. Felix was known to be loyal completely to the governments doctrine and was a highly capable and reliable commander, Miranda on the other hand was a peerless tactician, innovative and charismatic. The problem lay in his political affiliation, or lack of it, he was entirely motivated by greed and there was a great deal of opposition to his appointment, yet it was undeniable that he was the best commander in Brazil.

Felix would begin the operation by starting an advance from Macapa Westwards into the hinterlands. The advance would be slow and steady and without supply problems due to its slow speed, it would move along natural watercourses and would pioneer river borne warfare as a means to advance with full supplies in the face of resistance with the newly established Naval River Patrol, a corps under the full command of General Felix designed to dominate watercourses and supply ground troops. Gradually this army would throw the dissentful landowners out of their feudal states, but this alone would be for nothing if it wasn't for the rest of the plan. The second army under General Miranda would travel light and fast. If the rebels were allowed to gather they may be able to retreat and eventually mass into a field army with foreign aid and weapons. Miranda would move swiftly through to the flank of the enemy travelling by foot or animal transport through dense terrain, hoping eventually to cut off the retreat of the rebels West of Manaus.

The elite troop was also being prepared for action though they would not be employed so early in the conflict. They were moved to a single command 45,000 strong under General Velasquez. Velasquez had been trained as one of the men under the South African Kommando and refused priveledges of rank. He was a working class hero who had risen through the ranks and was fiercely opposed to the rebellion, fanatically loyal to the government and with the best troops in the country, all similarly motivated, Velasquez could well be a deciding factor in the conflict.

Force Beta prepared to move. It was dusk and the men were secure in the knowledge that the cautious and reliable Felix would have left nothing to chance. They knew he was a fairly unimaginative man but he would never risk their lives unnecesarily and so morale was high. Living in such uncertain times only the troops deemed to be most loyal to the government would be employed. The entire Politburo had for once agreed that military action was neccesary, even the conservative members who had been appalled by the breakdown in law and order and the execution of the tribunal members. Although much of the army was probably sympathetic with the rebels, many of the units deemed to be disloyal had been scattered on vaious training exercises around Brazil. Another body of 75,000 men had been sent to guard the vulnerable Matto Grosso industrial district and 5,000 had been sent to defend British interests in the Amazon. The rest of the Army that could be trusted was held in reserve. The reserves themselves were not called up, save for the regiments allocated to defend the major cities, which were generally centres of government support anyway.

If morale in Felix's camp was high, the morale in the camp of Miranda's troops was skyrocketing. The General had broken out his trademark cigars and an enigmatic smile was playing across the still handsome face of the General as he urged his men on. "It will be a long march", he promised, "but I expect the best out of each man here. I will give my utmost and I expect every last one of you to march like the wind and fight like the devil.", this last remark raised an enormous cheer even at this late hour. The troops began moving down the dirt tracks that would be their path to victory, everything depended on their march, there was no doubt that the poorly organised rebels would be smashed by Felix's disciplined men, it was capturing the leaders and netting the prisoners and supplies that was the most important thing. Indeed it was a wonder the rebels stood their ground at all.

By the next day force Beta was pushing down the River Amazonas. The advanced units of the Naval River Patrol had engaged rebel troops on the banks of the river, hidden by the banks with Bolivian supplied machine guns and mortars. Several small vessels were lost as divers swam out to plant explosives on the hulls of the ships but by and large the advance was going well. However, the River Patrol, as effective as it was could not advance indefinetly. Eventually round a bend of the river a battery of artillery of various calibre's were simply blowing ships out of the water. 2,000 assault infantry were swiftly disembarked and readied for a frontal attack on the guns. The troops of the 9th Foot Regiment under the personal command of Colonel Sabrosa formed in the dense jungle terrain. Some light mortars were prepared for covering fire as the skirmishers rushed forward to drive back the enemy infantry screen. It was estimated that the artillery position was held by around 800 semi-trained rebels. Nevertheless they were comfortably ensconced above light earthworks and makeshift bunkers and were supported by the battery of artillery, some of it up to 75mm in caliber.

The Government mortar fire was unneringly accurate and kept the forward enemy positions pinned into place as the 6th and 7th companies repectively moved into attack formation and advanced into the undergrowth.

At the rebel battery, Captain Dos Santos prepared his men for the inevitable. He was a small time landowner who had been promised a 200 acre extension of his lands if he held the position for a full day. It was nearing 3pm and Dos Santos was confident. His brand new artillery had sunk 3 of the blasted gunboats already and forced the others to retreat behind the bend of the river. Suddenly he heard a cry and raised his binoculars to stare in amazement as 2 more gunboats appeared. This was suicide! Nevertheless the gunners manouvred their weapons around to the new target and opened fire, shells ploughed into the water and threw up fountains of spray to scrape the heavens. Numerous hits were scored but neither ship pulled back. They were now experiencing retaliatory fire from the gunboats and Dos Santos watched in horror as a gun team to his immediate left were shredded by 45mm shell from one of the gunboats, still though, he knew victory was in his grasp. They had to retreat soon. Then, out of the corner of his eye, Dos Santos spied shadowy shapes flitting through the trees. A ground attack! Impossible! It should have taken hours for a disembarkation, and how hadn't his scouts noticed! As he pondered this question he glanced through his binoculars at where his forward company had been. He simply saw a trail of bodies leading back to his position. It appeared the skirmishing government troops had attacked not down the riverbank but towards it, driving the rebels towards the fire of the gunboats. Clever...thought Dos Santos, Clever....


(OOC: to be continued soon)

Lowering his binoculars Dos Santos barked an order to his nearest aide, telling him to divert men to the forward trenches to repel a frontal assault and to ready the mortars for immediate saturation of the treeline. Before long files of troops were crowding the forward trenches and sliding their rifles over the parapet. Not having bayonets, the rebels were told to prepare how they could for close quarters. Men primed grenades, wiped sweat from their brows and made a last check of their equipment. This would be the first encounter of the war between rebel and loyalist ground troops.

At the word of command, the rebel close range mortars rained their explosives onto the edge of the treeline, anticipating an immediate attack. However, the loyalists had retreated from the treeline leaving only the skirmishers to keep up a harassing fire on the trenches. The skirmishers were duly slaughtered and although some fell back the intensity of the fire took them by surprise. Still, the main mortar barrage was over and the two attacking companies fixed bayonets and moved finally to the treeline. The adrenaline was sour in their mouthes as the liqour was sour in their stomaches and the fear was rampant in their imaginations. The officers drew their antiquated swords, raised their sidearms and blew their whistles. The companies attacked in loose order, screaming fear and defiance at their enemies who now held their lives in hand. Rifles spat from the fire companies as the ragged advance lurched forward. The rebels held their fire. Waited. Waited. 'Fire!', rebel weapons belched smoke and bullets into the onrushing troops. Many went down with the first volley but they pressed onwards. The machine guns opened fire, scything down the right hand company like ninepins. The right hand company, the 7th, faltered and then turned and ran pell mell back down the grassy hill that was now littered with a scattering of organs and body fluids and limbs that had twitched for the last time. The 6th however pushed up the slope, and, priming grenades, screamed a last time before hurling thier charges into the trenches. Dull crumps signified gaps being blown in the rebel lines as the bayonets arched forward into the nearest rebels. A brutal hand to hand fight was conducted, desperate rebels armed with a variety of machetes, axes and other antiquated weapons duelled with disciplined government troops with gleaming bayonets. It was no contest, the rebels were either killed where they stood or fled, no quarter was given. 6th Company's Captain was at the forefront of the attack, his sword had laid low several assailants and his pistol was empty, though he kept pulling the trigger anyway. He raised his sword again to strike at the eyes of a particularly ill smelling rebel but as it fell his right knee was shattered by a grenade that killed also the odorous rebel and several of both of their companions. The Captain grimaced and dragged himself up, only to be hit in the shoulder by a rifle round. The melee ground on for another seven or eight minutes but the rebels numbers were now beginning to tell. Troops came pounding over from nearby and reserve trenches armed with grenades that tore the 6th's attack ragged. The Captain was dragged back to the treeline by his corporal but both his lieutenants had been killed along with around half his company. 7 Company retained around one half of their fighting strength, 6 Company around a quarter once prisoners had been taken.


The 9th Foot Regiment had suffered badly with its hopelessly undermanned attack. Still, the attack had taken its toll on the rebels as well, around 40 lay dead while some 70 odd men would take no further part in the battle. The First battalion of the 9th Foot that had already had two companies decimated would commit a further 3 companies, while the Second battalion would send forward 5 companies now they had all disembarked from the river boats. Overwhelming force would be used. However, on the river bend the two boats sent forwards as distractions from the main attack had been forced to pull back with heavy losses and damage. The next attack, though better manned, would now be faced with the full force of the rebel artillery.

(OOC: once again, to be continued)

ooc: yes its the right place but you do realise you are reneging on our non-aggression pact if you do this don't you? and if you are found out, which you will be once rebel leaders are questioned as to where they got their weapons and money, that you will be in serious shit?

Yes, I am awere of that. I am taking my chances because I want the rubber producing province of Acre, which would really help my economy. But, isn't it Galveston Bay the one who figures out the outcomes of battles? You did write that battle secene well though, I have to admit.

General Germán Busch Becerra of the Bolivian Army paced impatiantly around his headquarters in a vally in the Andes Mountains in central Bolivia. He has just been given command of the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th divisions of the army which were camped furthur downslope. The door opened he was handed a note by his aide which read:

There has been a small battle between rebel and government solders in which there were heavy losses on both sides. The rebels fought well. I will inform you if anything of note happens.

Signed, Lt. Gonzoles

Becerra thought to himself, "They must win victories soon. If they do, my men will be sent to support."

His army, 40,000 strong, was ready for action, but Becerra chose to wait for a little while longer to wait for the right moment.

"President Chaim, the Brazilians have engaged in Civil War!" One of Chaims aides had rushed into his office, he looked up from his paperwork and removed his reading glasses, a war, a close war, this would be a chance for the meager Zionist army to get some real combat experience, "well, who's winning?" He asked, this would only effect his answer slightly, it was obvious that he would help the Socialist's being as he too was of the Left persuasion "right now sir we aren't sure, sha'll we send aid?" This answer had an obvious response "yes, get on the wire to the Argentinians, ask them for permission to trek into Brazil, send another telegram to Brazil, tell them we will help their forces!"

Telegram From Chaim Weizmann to Brazil

With your permission we will send our forces into Brazil in order to aid in the quelling of this rebellion, of course we will also require first the permission of Argentina, hopefully we will be on the front line within the week.

ooc: kay I'm going to carry on with the battle now.

ooc: Got your TG, Gintonpar, and I sent one to you.

The newly formed up attack companies would be supported by the guns of the designated fire companies and skirmishers and this time smoke would be fired from the mortars. On the word of command the light mortars fired the odd sounding smoke shells that exploded with a distinct 'puff' before spewing their payload over the hill's slope. As soon as the first mortars coughed their projectiles forward the fire companies loosed a volley towards the trenches that would soon be completely obscured by smoke.

Dos Santos was panicking. Daylight was closing in and now the smoke was obscuring the sight of his vaunted artillery. He calmed himself with long, deep breaths. "Lieutenant? Order the artillery company to take up small arms and take defensive positions."
"Sir?"
"You heard me. We might get some hits but its not worth revealing our position in case those wretched gunboats steam over again."
"Sir. Certainly Sir."

The bemused artillery crews dutifully shouldered longarms and set off for the trenches which were now also being pounded by mortar fire after coloured flares had been dropped to illuminate the strongpoints for Loyalist mortars. The mortars were takling a terrible toll but at least the smoke was finally clearing.

A deathly silence fell over the battlefield. The loyalist mortars stopped firing to let their infantry advance and the rebel artillery had stopped some time ago. Then the eerie sound of whistles peeled over the battlefield along with the clicking on of bayonets and the scraping of swords out of scabbards. Then, with an unholy rustling and thumping of equipment, the lightly armed assault companies moved forward at a jog in loose order. The smoke hadn't completely cleared so the rebels were mostly unsighted but the order was given anyway and a misaimed volley of rifle fire scorched the slope. Several were hit but this time the losses wern't so heavy. The rebel machine guns were still silent as the cheering Government troops pounded up towards the crest.

Finally. After a pause that seemed an eternity, the machine guns finally opened up. However, casualties were remarkably low as the smoke and the speed of the attack after the light bombardment had caught the rebels slightly off their guard.

Felix watched from his command post he had set up on the river bank. Watching for a sign that the artillery might have been vacated. Were there still men on those evil looking guns? The smoke still obscured his vision through his binoculars. Then, a helpful gust of wind revealed the artillery emplacement and yes! The position was abandoned! Immediately, Felix launched his gunboats round the bend in the river with orders to open fire immediately so as to cover the troops attacking the slope.

Dos Santos groaned as the unmistakable thud of a 45mm explosion caught his attention on the right flank of his position. Once again, the two battered gunboats were round the bend in the river and advancing parallel to the infantry, 45mm guns stitching a pattern of mayhem ever closer to the centre of the trenchline. Machine gun nests were smashed to pieces, men were thrown feet in the air and parapets were collapsed as the high velocity rounds were fired from the two gunboats.

The infantry surged forward with a cheer and renewed vigour. The gunboats parallel to them were softening up the defences and all it needed was one more effort. The men hurled themselves against the defences, flinging satchel charges and grenades towards the stunned occupants of the trench. At last the morale of the rebels seemed to break. Several sprinted out of the frontline trenches back towards the comparative safety of the jungle. Once again fierce hand to hand trench fighting took place. Some gained distinction, some disgrace. It becomes hard to distinguish between the two when one is butchering his fellow man like so much meat. Eventually the rebels broke full scale. Streaming back down the connecting trenches and across the open ground. The French equipped and trained government troops had finally put into practice the lessons taught them by their European tutors. Loyalist light machine guns were carried up the slope and set to work on mowing down escaping rebels and wearing down the last pockets of resistance. By 19:42 hours it was all over. The last rebels had surrendered and a detachment was set to clean up that battlefield as the prisoners were sent back upon the ships that were damaged in the fighting. Felix's Army set up camp for the night and Task Force Beta had won its first engagement.

Dos Santos would have wept if he could. His legs had been blown off by a 45mm shell as he had stood on the trench parapet to scream an order. Then he had lost his sight to a hand grenade blast exploding next to the now rather undignified prostrate body of the Captain. His rebellion, along with 300 or so of his compatriots was over. The rest of the rebel forces present were taken prisoner or lay wounded, to be captured or die of wounds at a later date. The government troops lost around 200 dead, most from the first attack, and suffered some 500 wounded who were sent back by steamer along with the enemy prisoners and an armed guard.








Felix inhaled deeply and said his prayers before repairing to bed. He would find it hard to sleep, as he always did after battle. But he had done his duty again. Victory. A costly one, but still victory. Yet Felix knew there would be more and harder battles to fight as his progress down the Amazona continued.

Good writing. But, unfortunately, it's god-modding. To be fair, no-one's officially running the Rebels, but you still shouldn't be deciding your own enemies' casualties and the battle outcomes.

That being said, henceforth Galveston Bay will run the Rebels.

I'm willing to assume that, in fact, the Brazilian Army did just win an engagement in Manaus, against some rebels under a splinter group called the Movimento Popular Nacional.

I haven't had enough time to properly research and organize these things. I work very long hours on weekends, and right now I'm house-sitting and so I'm away from a lot of my reference works.

My impression, though, is that the real center of the rebellion is going to be the Mato Grosso. I'll need to check, however. In the meantime, please do not post any more. The fact is, the Rebels will avoid a direct engagement with the Army for most of the rest of the year, and the Army will take serious casualties chiefly from disease and poor supply lines (bad roads, impassable waterways, bandits and indians will all take their share). There are reasons why government authority in Brazil's hinterland remains weak to this very day.

Official Left Hand Statement

The Left Hand is fearful of the rebel dogs who pillage towns throughout the Amazon. Socialism must prevail in Brazil. Thus, The Left Hand is willing to donate 10 Carrier Zeppelins, which hold 5 Fokker Triplanes, to the Brazilian Government to crush the rebels in the jungle. If there is more we can do, please inform us. The Left Hand will be discussing further assistance with Warsaw.

Good writing. But, unfortunately, it's god-modding. To be fair, no-one's officially running the Rebels, but you still shouldn't be deciding your own enemies' casualties and the battle outcomes.

That being said, henceforth Galveston Bay will run the Rebels.

I'm willing to assume that, in fact, the Brazilian Army did just win an engagement in Manaus, against some rebels under a splinter group called the Movimento Popular Nacional.

I haven't had enough time to properly research and organize these things. I work very long hours on weekends, and right now I'm house-sitting and so I'm away from a lot of my reference works.

My impression, though, is that the real center of the rebellion is going to be the Mato Grosso. I'll need to check, however. In the meantime, please do not post any more. The fact is, the Rebels will avoid a direct engagement with the Army for most of the rest of the year, and the Army will take serious casualties chiefly from disease and poor supply lines (bad roads, impassable waterways, bandits and indians will all take their share). There are reasons why government authority in Brazil's hinterland remains weak to this very day.

It was just a sort of pleliminary for the rest of the campaign. I wasn't going to do that for every battle it was just a taster. Should have made it clear though, sorry.

Parthini']Official Left Hand Statement

The Left Hand is fearful of the rebel dogs who pillage towns throughout the Amazon. Socialism must prevail in Brazil. Thus, The Left Hand is willing to donate 10 Carrier Zeppelins, which hold 5 Fokker Triplanes, to the Brazilian Government to crush the rebels in the jungle. If there is more we can do, please inform us. The Left Hand will be discussing further assistance with Warsaw.


We thank you greatly for your assistance here and are glad of your practical help. We are just about coping with the rebels at the moment but we will certainly let you know if we need help.

Many Thanks,
Brazil's Politburo and Parliament.

Warsaw will release whatever resources are necessary to assist our Revolutionary brothers of Brazil.

ooc: just in case you didn't see it there before, that battle was just a taster, I never meant to play out the whole war like that lol.

Warsaw will release whatever resources are necessary to assist our Revolutionary brothers of Brazil.

We deeply thank our comrades across the water but as for now we are just about keeping the rebels in check. Task Forces Beta and Gamma are making fair progress against the rebels but mobile medicine is a problem. If there is something that you can do to help us there we would be indeed grateful.

Deepest Regards,
Brazil's Politburo and Parliament.

We deeply thank our comrades across the water but as for now we are just about keeping the rebels in check. Task Forces Beta and Gamma are making fair progress against the rebels but mobile medicine is a problem. If there is something that you can do to help us there we would be indeed grateful.

Deepest Regards,
Brazil's Politburo and Parliament.
IC:
Yes, medical care and supplies must be sorely needed in the tropical Summer. We will send whatever staff we can spare from our own relief efforts in Ukraine [OoC: Even with the "Crisis Point" passed in Ukraine, we're still busy coping, but can spare more now than we could a couple of months ago.], as well as shipments of medicines, antiseptics, surgical supplies, and quinine. We will also send trucks for transporting them to the combat theater.
History is against our enemies. Socialism, the essence of justice, will prevail.

- Karl Radek, President of the General Consultative Council

OoC:
Not to worry. But thanks for the clarification.
Like I say, I have to do some more research before anything serious happens, and appreciate your patience.

General Bacerra was awakened early in the morning by his aide, who delivered him another dispatch from his informant in Brazil:

The Movimento Popular Nacional has been defeted by the Brazilian troops. The Brazilan government knows that the weapons that the rebels are carrying are of Bolivian make. Other governments have promised to send aide to the current government. I will write to you if I get any more information.

Signed, Lt. Gonzoles

General Bacerra crumpled up the measage and threw it up against the wall in frustration.

ooc
today is a busy day for me so I will post more on the Rebel plans later, probably tomorrow. I am simply going to go with the Government having crushed one of the leaders, who acted to rashly too quickly. The Rebels will learn from this.

Criminals will be hired through cutouts to assissinate college professors and lesser party officials who are blatantly socialist or communist.

Using civilian explosives like dynamite, and civilian watercraft, primitive drift and command detonated mines will be constructed and attacks will be made on government gunboats operating in the Amazon river basin. In those areas that aren't actually wilderness anyway (which is most of it at this point).

Murders of government officials will be stepped up in rural areas to the point where escorts are required. So far family members are left alone however.

Any permanent rebel military units remain in rural areas usually pretending to be agricultural workers or security guards.

Government informers are ruthlessly hunted out, and those found are killed and they are left out in public squares in pieces to be found, or they simply dissappear into a river.

ooc: Just to clear something up. The battle I described was on the way to Manaus, which was the objective, that was sort of clearing the way to Manaus but nevermind I shall alter stuff. So we take it one of the smaller leaders has been defeated while the main rebels are at large? Okay then. I dont have much time now but plans are as follows. I'll add to them later.

IC:

Brazilian plan of campaign.

Based around hearts and minds. Less emphasis on static fortification deep in the jungle. Fighting patrols are sent into areas known to be harbouring rebels. Medical supplies, food and water and propaganda begins to be distributed on a large scale in areas most affected by civil strife. Special Commision made of military officers to advise where a situation is untenable. If an area is deemed to be too sympathetic to insurgents the village is simply closed down and its inhabitants moved elsewhere. The elite jungle division steps up operations around the Matto Grosso region while 50,000 extra reserves are activated. Medical officers sent into the rural populace again for hearts and minds. Rebel ressuply bases to be actively searched out and ultimately assaulted with maximum force.

Fighting patrols will last one week normally before a rest period back at base. Special fighting patrols lasting anything up to 4 weeks will be employed where the Naval River Patrol has dominance. Checkpoints set up in suspect areas of enemy movement manned by army reservists.

Foundation of two new armed forces.

The State Guard is created with a paper strength of 50,000 men. Over a period of 6 months, troops drawn from existing regiments will be politically indoctrinated and trained extensively in psychological warfare, with the attachment of political officers in an advisory role with no bearing on military authority.

The second force is the paramilitary People's Revolutionary Front. The PRF is a mainly communist organisation that will be utilised to fight without mercy against the rebels. Recruits will be drawn from communist pressure groups that previously were outlawed by the government for fear of being too militant. They will be given government training in counter insurgency and jungle survival but mostly they will be trained on the ground, surviving for months living off the land and developing links with rural communities by giving help with local projects and working alongside them to build trust. Essentially they will attempt to fight the rebels at their own game.

The Matto Grosso industrial region is in the proccess of being heavily fortified and will eventually garrisson 75,000 men permanently with the capability to supply many more.

ooc: thats all for now folks. :)

Government losses due to disease will be fairly heavy, though actual deaths remain light at first. Nevertheless, figure the monstrously high number of 8-10% per week of active campaigning. It may seem high, but it is the tropics in Summer. Only a little less than 10% of these are fatal losses, remainder are out of action for up to 6 months. Rebel losses will be substantially lower, ironically in part because there are much fewer Rebels and they're not nearly as concentrated. 2-4% per week. Casualties are already adjusted for the medical care being shipped to both sides by their respective sponsors.

However, Catholic priests, other than some Jesuits, will begin denying the Eucharist to Government supporters, and that will increase the Government's desertion rate significantly, except among the hardcore Communist units and a lot of the poorest Afro-Brazilians, especially of urban origin, who tend to practice candomblé and other mystery cults anyway. Nevertheless, Catholic opposition will increase the desertion rate among Government troops to 2-3% per week. Rebel desertion rates are low, but ruthless disciplinary action will claim about the same amount.

The good news for the Government is that the Rebels will pretty much lose any direct engagements with Government forces. However, while Rebel soldiers fight terribly, the Rebel officer corps is surprisingly good (and their army is very top-heavy, as befits the military of an aristocratic culture), and Rebel armies nearly make up for their casualties through skirmishing, sniping, and various obnoxious booby-traps (such as those described above), where the rebels would have the advantages. Losses from actual combat will be heavy for both sides, especially at first, about 15-20% for Government troops and even higher for the Rebels (25-30%), especially during this first year.

The campaign of terror won't make the Rebels any friends, but it will erode confidence in the Government, unless the Government disperses its forces or relocates populations (as it seems willing to do in some areas, and I'll try to have comments on that by tomorrow).

The Mato Grosso was in the process of being industrialized, but is still mostly rural, and the center of resistance.

I'll have some leaders' names and locations by tomorrow. Myself, I was going to call the rebel movement the "Congresso Nacional de Unidade Brasileira," (or COBRA, just for the irony) and have it adopt a constitution similar to the CSA's, which it would immediately suspend in favor of a military triumvirate. One of the guys in charge would be Hermenegildo Galvão, but I don't know yet who the others would be.

For now, the Government still has the edge. The Rebels "control" no territory, but the Government will make little headway against them at first, since the Rebels can call upon essentially limitless resources of supplies and munitions, as well as total hatred, at least among its leadership. As I say, though, Rebel conscripts fight apallingly poorly, and most of the Government's losses will be due to disease, desertion, and terrorism.

This will be, regardless of what I may hope as the player of Brazil's most powerful ally, the first major guerrilla war of the twentieth century.

(ooc: just to make things more interesting...)

"I never could stand waiting." Colonel Gualberto Villarroel López thought as he peered through the early morning darkness. He could barely make out the forms of his men marching down the road. Lopez was allways an impaitient man, but was a young, charasmatic, and rising officer in the Bolivian army. He had disagreed with the government's ruling on what to send to the rebels. Villarroel had said that the rebels could not lose if men were sent imediatly. "But of course," he continued to think to himself, "democrasies are always slow and flawed in their decisions."

Villarroel was running off with 5,000 men of the 5th "Light" Division of the army. He was planning to either link up with the rebels or just cause general havoc in Brazil and try to disrupt the Brazilian army's supply lines. He smiled to himself saying aloud, "I favor the latter."

One of his aides rode up to him saying, "Sir, we have just crossed the border."

"Good." Colonel Villarroel replied.

(ooc: basically, he is running off with half of a division and plans to cause general havoc in Brazil.)

(ooc: just to make things more interesting...)

"I never could stand waiting." Colonel Gualberto Villarroel López thought as he peered through the early morning darkness. He could barely make out the forms of his men marching down the road. Lopez was allways an impaitient man, but was a young, charasmatic, and rising officer in the Bolivian army. He had disagreed with the government's ruling on what to send to the rebels. Lopez had said that the rebels could not lose if men were sent imediatly. "But of course," he continued to think to himself, "democrasies are always slow and flawed in their decisions."

Lopez was running off with 5,000 men of the 5th "Light" Division of the army. He was planning to either link up with the rebels or just cause general havoc in Brazil and try to disrupt the Brazilian army's supply lines. He smiled to himself saying aloud, "I favor the latter."

One of his aides rode up to him saying, "Sir, we have just crossed the border."

"Good." Colonel Lopez replied.

(ooc: basically, he is running off with half of a division and plans to cause general havoc in Brazil.)


So the Bolivian Government will be hunting him down then?

Colonel Gualberto Villarroel López

Quibble: This guy would be referred to as Colonel Villaroel. Of a Spaniard's two surnames, the first one is his father's and the second is his mother's. And, of course, he always goes by his father's.

So the Bolivian Government will be hunting him down then?

ooc: They don't know at the moment, I doubt they will send men to chase him.

Quibble: This guy would be referred to as Colonel Villaroel. Of a Spaniard's two surnames, the first one is his father's and the second is his mother's. And, of course, he always goes by his father's.

ooc: That has been edited.

IC

Government troops, in accordance with the rising desertion rate, will swiftly begin to use political officer to lower rates. As casualty rates rise from disease, many units are withdrawn to safer areas and harsh political commissars are appointed in all units. Although they have little power at first, if the desertion rate is crippling the army then new powers will have to be given to the political officers to halt desertion. The railroad built by the Russians between 1908 and 1920 allows loyalist troops to move swiftly to trouble spots but the rebels frustrate them by refusing pitched battles. Area's of massive enemy movement will be subjected to attack by the paramilitaries. And nobody, I mean nobody, wants the PRF. They are merciless, fanatical and cruel. They will NOT be released until there is a most desperate situation but if need be the government will use them, though the Presidents authorisation is needed before they are employed (i.e I will say specifically if they are moving in).

Training of the State Guard continues apace in attempts to produce a unit more loyal than much of the army that is weakened by desertion. At the moment the Government is terrified of what organised rebels would do to their individual standings. Even the nationalists oppose the rebels as they would rather Brazil fights her neighbours than eachother. The major cities are slowly fortified and a recruitment drive is announced to boost army numbers, especially in the State Guard units.

Evacuation of whole areas is being considered if the threat of rebel takeover is too great but the basic government strategy at the moment is thus:

The Government knows this will be a long war and is preparing for the long haul. We do not expect to crush the rebels overnight and accept it will be a long proccess. Main strategies are:

Hearts and minds.

Medical equipment for soldiers.

Lowering desertion rate.

Speed up the creation of the State Guard and, if neccesary, the PRF.


ooc: okay I'll probably be on again this time tomorrow so no major incidents that I have to quickly react to while I'm away please. Thanks ;)

ooc: They don't know at the moment, I doubt they will send men to chase him.

They don't know??? A division goes missing and they don't know?? Also I think an AWOL General with a precision military machine might just need hunting down by his Government.

They don't know??? A division goes missing and they don't know?? Also I think an AWOL General with a precision military machine might just need hunting down by his Government.

ooc: Half of a divison. The government would try to find were he was, but when they figure out he left the country, they will hesitate to send men after him.

Well, this is the Amazon, and the 1920's, and if a Latin American general turns warlord it's not like its that unusual.

No, I doubt the Bolivian government will hunt him down. They'll probably wait to see how he does before deciding whether to repudiate or support his actions.

A potential Continental War has been a long time in the making, here, to be honest. There are too many questions and tensions to be settled.

I find this plausible, again, unfortunately.

Mind you, the Bolivians will have the same problems as the Brazilians' regular forces, and they'll be compounded by even less adequate supply lines. Frankly, I wouldn't worry too much . . .

Gift From the Left Hand

The Left Hand hereby donates an additional 20 Carrier Zeppelins, 4 Bomber Zeppelins and 10 Scout Zeppelins to be placed under Brazilian Control. So as to not scare the Americans, these Zeppelins are ordered to remain inside Brazil's borders and will only engage rebels, or those assissting rebels.

Secret IC:

Das schwarze Sauschwerter der Revolution (The Black Boar Sword of the Revolution) [boar=Capitalist Pig], or SSR, is willing to begin espionage to tear apart the rebels. All we need is for the Brazilian Government to agree.

In the waining days of December, General Bacerra found a letter on his desk. He quickly picked it up and read the return adress. It was from the president. He quickly opened the envelope and read the note:

If you are not aware by now, half of the 5th Division under the command of Colonel Villaroel has disipeared, I have mobilized the Cavalry to search the countryside but I doubt the colonel is still in Bolivia. I beilive he is most likely in Brazil. I would just like to notifiy you of this developement.

Signed, President Mallea

The General sighed. This came as a surprise to him. He decided to wait and see what developes.

Parthini']Gift From the Left Hand

The Left Hand hereby donates an additional 20 Carrier Zeppelins, 4 Bomber Zeppelins and 10 Scout Zeppelins to be placed under Brazilian Control. So as to not scare the Americans, these Zeppelins are ordered to remain inside Brazil's borders and will only engage rebels, or those assissting rebels.

Secret IC:

Das schwarze Sauschwerter der Revolution (The Black Boar Sword of the Revolution) [boar=Capitalist Pig], or SSR, is willing to begin espionage to tear apart the rebels. All we need is for the Brazilian Government to agree.

ooc
expect losses Germany... the Amazon is a nasty environment for aircraft, and they have to cross the Atlantic via the Azores. One will crash on the way to Brazil (randomn roll determined, its a carrier Zeppelin)... its lost with no survivors in tropical weather near the Tropic of Cancer over the Mid Atlantic.

Argentina has granted Zion troops permission to cross it's territory on the condition that Brazil does not proceed too harshly with it's reaction to the rebellion. Specifically, the leaders of Argentina are worried private property rights as well as a backlash against the Brazilian upper class will result.

Argentina will remain neutral in this civil war, but will sell various finished goods (blankets, food, ammunition (as long as it's a kind we use), etc.) to the Brazilian Government's Army.

France is prepared to offer a division of Vietnamese Commonwealth troops to assist you, as well as advisors and medical personell.

France is prepared to offer a division of Vietnamese Commonwealth troops to assist you, as well as advisors and medical personell.

French military forces entering Brazil to enter into combat on either side of a civil war in South America would not be viewed as a friendly act by the United States. While the US is all for nations sending humanitarian aid to help either side deal with the harsh realities of war, the United States views the problem as something Brazil needs to resolve on its own, without other nations, especially European nations, intervening in what is a Civil War.

the United States views the problem as something Brazil needs to resolve on its own, without other nations . . . intervening in what is a Civil War.
I find this very funny for some reason.

French military forces entering Brazil to enter into combat on either side of a civil war in South America would not be viewed as a friendly act by the United States. While the US is all for nations sending humanitarian aid to help either side deal with the harsh realities of war, the United States views the problem as something Brazil needs to resolve on its own, without other nations, especially European nations, intervening in what is a Civil War.

The French government thanks the US for advising them on the situation, but points out that it is up to Brazil to make that decision, not the US.

However, the French have no wish to strain their longstanding friendship with the US and will withdraw their offer of troops. The offer of medical personell and supplies remains.

I find this very funny for some reason.

ooc
it is funny.. however French involvement in Brazil would be dangerously close to violating the Monroe Doctrine, and very similar to their involvement in Mexico less than 70 years ago. Although I did have an amusing mental picture of Giap marching around the Amazon jungle hunting Reactionary Brazilian landowners.

Now that is funny.

Amazonas

The State of Amazonas, formerly a major center of rubber production, had fallen on extremely hard times by the early 1920's, and the so-called Movimento Popular Nacional, an Integralist (quasi-Fascist) political group, was able to convince large numbers of the poor and jobless locals that their economic distress was the result of Godlessness and Communist mismanagement rather than failing production and new competition from Africa and Asia.

The Integralists managed to quickly raise a Militia of nearly a hundred thousand malcontents, most of whom were poorly armed with antiquated personal weapons, and even less well-trained. However, in a rapid and overwhelming campaign of terror and political murder, the MPN was able to seize the government of Manaus and declare "the Beginning of the Restoration of the Republic under God."

Poorly-equipped, lacking artillery, shoes, or medicine, the Integralist Militia was ill-prepared for the arrival of forty-five thousand Government troops in late November. Trusting in their superior numbers, the MPN commanders disastrously ordered their men "to give not an inch to Satan's champions," and watched horrified as their own men were cut down by the thousands trying to hold the river passages, where their numbers made little difference. Within a few hours, over ten thousand Integralists lay dead, their had been lines broken, and the remainder of the Militia were in rout as General Felix marched into Manaus.

All told, by the end some twenty thousand rebels were killed, and forty thousand captured, most while trying to flee. The rest, including the MPN's leadership, simply disappeared into the woods. Despite the best efforts of General Miranda's men, the jungle was too thick, and there were simply too many to snare them all.

It was a costly campaign, however. The actual battle did little damage to the Government lines - some three thousand dead, and another five thousand wounded. It had been the journey up the river that had taken the greatest toll. Of the forty-five thousand men who had originally begun the expedition, only twenty thousand had finished it. Some five thousand had died in the jungle, either by Rebel bomb-boats and booby traps or, more often, disease. The remaining casualties had been taken ill or hurt by the many perils of the jungle and shipped back to Brazil's urban centers, or, in an increasing number of cases, had deserted because of their faith. The Army of the Amazon was at full strength in Manaus only because of continual replacement from the Government.

By February, however, Manaus was securely in Government hands.

A wave of assassinations and attempted assassinations sweep even the cities during the Summer of 1922-23. Feminist and black intellectuals and politicians, in particular, seem to be favored targets, as well as foreigners. Bombs explode outside the Russian and German embassies on several occasions, though what few people are killed are mostly urban poor.

Some of the perpetrators are caught, of course, but it turns out that most of them have little to say. They are not professionals, for the most part, but simply poor, angry men hired by mysterious and persuasive "coronels" (in this context, "benefactors") with aristocratic accents and sacks of gold - much of which turns out to be debased anyway.

Drugs pour into the slums as well, though as yet this has had few effects on public order.
Outside the coastal cities, the terror campaign is more serious. There are fewer targets, but the murderers are professionals, so more attempts are successful. Most of the targets in the countryside are government officials, informers, and Left-leaning priests. Few assassins are captured alive, but most who do turn out to be gauchos employed by ranchers, highly experienced in murdering indians and serfs.

As the countryside becomes more heavily militarized, the assassinations and lynchings fall off, but do not abate entirely.

The Brazilian Government replies to Argentina:

We do not torture or employ murder and cruelty on those who would employ it on us. We have been and always will be a humane government and will not stoop to the level of the terrorists (ooc: yet) and are indeed glad of your offer for the blankets and medicine which we will continue to purchse. We also ask you to aid us in asking the Bolivian Government to withdraw its troops from Brazil. We realise they are rogue but the government must be able to do something.

To France:

We thank you for your initial offer and will also gladly take your offer of medical supplies and personnel which we desperately need.

To Germany:

Again. Many many thanks for the aid. We really appreciate this and it will give us the edge in the jungles against the rebels. And rest assured, any German personnel downed in the rainforest will immediately be searched for by our elite jungle units and given the best medical care available.

TO THE REST OF THE WORLD:

Freedom Needs You!

All idealistic youths around the world between the ages of 18 and 35, fight for freedom against the vicious murderers in our jungles! Military training is a plus but not neccesary. Just think, you will see the world and fight for freedom! You will be fully equipped and led by experienced fighting men. Fight for liberty against the perpetrators of injustice! Your travel expenses will be fully refunded and you will recieve a generous basic pay in addition to the satisfaction of keeping the world free.

ooc: I'm thinking along the lines of the international brigade in the RL Spanish Civil War. It would certainly have a low desertion rate...

TO THE REST OF THE WORLD:

Freedom Needs You!

All idealistic youths around the world between the ages of 18 and 35, fight for freedom against the vicious murderers in our jungles! Military training is a plus but not neccesary. Just think, you will see the world and fight for freedom! You will be fully equipped and led by experienced fighting men. Fight for liberty against the perpetrators of injustice! Your travel expenses will be fully refunded and you will recieve a generous basic pay in addition to the satisfaction of keeping the world free.

ooc: I'm thinking along the lines of the international brigade in the RL Spanish Civil War. It would certainly have a low desertion rate...
Just when there happens to be a major surplus of suddenly unemployed Ukrainian farmhands.
Within weeks of this call (publicized by the Union government), thousands of young Ukrainian men, and a few hundred women, will begin appearing in Brazilian ports asking for rifles with which to kill the slave-owners.

I'm going to start a Brazilian Civil War Thread tonight, so we don't keep cluttering up this one, which really ought to be used for more general purposes. I mean, the Government has just won a major victory in Amazonas, but there's a distinct possibility that the war will expand . . . If not, it'll be a short Thread.

Danard, it's not exactly clear to me how many troops Villaroel has with him. Forty thousand? Or twenty thousand? It'll make a big difference.

Just when there happens to be a major surplus of suddenly unemployed Ukrainian farmhands.
Within weeks of this call (publicized by the Union government), thousands of young Ukrainian men, and a few hundred women, will begin appearing in Brazilian ports asking for rifles with which to kill the slave-owners.

ooc
Tropical diseases are going to be especially unkind to them I would think.

Secret IC
the US secretly supplies the Rebels with a few naval mines to be used where convienent. Advisors recommend using fishing or commercial vessels to lay a few free floating mines inside major harbors as they exit the port.

ooc
Tropical diseases are going to be especially unkind to them I would think.

I'd think so too. But it probably wouldn't occur to a seventeen year-old Ukrainian muzhik until it was far too late.

Secret IC
the US secretly supplies the Rebels with a few naval mines to be used where convienent. Advisors recommend using fishing or commercial vessels to lay a few free floating mines inside major harbors as they exit the port.
This is pure evil. I'll rule on its effects a bit later . . .

I'm going to start a Brazilian Civil War Thread tonight, so we don't keep cluttering up this one, which really ought to be used for more general purposes. I mean, the Government has just won a major victory in Amazonas, but there's a distinct possibility that the war will expand . . . If not, it'll be a short Thread.

Danard, it's not exactly clear to me how many troops Villaroel has with him. Forty thousand? Or twenty thousand? It'll make a big difference.

In the first post that I mentioned him, and I said it was only 5,000, but people began to jump the gun and say it was a division.

So he's only got 5,000? Um, okay. Hope you didn't have any plans for him in the future . . .

So he's only got 5,000? Um, okay. Hope you didn't have any plans for him in the future . . .

Not many...

Good. Because basically, with five thousand men he'll disappear into the jungle and never be heard from again. Some deserters will make it back to Bolivia. Maybe a few officers. That's about it.
There will probably be rumors circulating for the next twenty years about some "White Death-God of the Amazon," like Colonel Kurtz, but they will remain unconfirmed.

ooc: Hey Vas, have you or are you going to make the Brazilian Civil War thread? Also I'm going to ask whether it would be possible in the future to recruit a significant amount of troops from the Ukraine? They will likely be in better physical shape and with more loyalty to our cause than a lot of my Government troops. Something along the lines of the British Gurkhas possibly.

Sorry, it's complicated, since I'm writing background. But I'll have the Thread up today - soon. I swear.

Sorry, it's complicated, since I'm writing background. But I'll have the Thread up today - soon. I swear.


No problem. And the Ukranian troops? (check above post)

Brazilian Civil War (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=446584). And I mentioned the influx of Ukrainians in my last post there.

Brazilian Government Speaks Out

President Lafuentes today made this speech:

"Myself and the Brazilian Government wish to let it be known how grateful we are to certain parties. Firstly, to all the countries in the world, mainly the Union and France, for all the help that has been given to our nation over the past year. Secondly, to the military, and not just the commanding officers, each and every soldier down to the lowliest private who has foresworn their life to the safeguarding of our nation from the rebels, thieves, slavers and terrorists who would destroy our country. Lastly, and most importantly, we thank the Brazilian people, you have stood up for what you believe in and we are, as always, in debt to the courage and generosity of the ordinary Brazilian for their help in defeating those who seek to take away our very liberties.

However, though the major operations have drawn to a close, the war is not over. It will not be over until every last rebel is dead or languishes in a prison cell! We will not be cowed by bombings, we will not be budged by threats, we will not be frightened of violence for we are true Brazilians! Our nation has been forged in adversity as a cross of cultures and in my opinion this is the finest melting pot in the history of the World! We have the finest, truest people and the greatest, most courageous friends who stand by us and those who stand together shall not fall or falter, but shall rise from the ashes of conflict to the stars! Now I ask you all. Every last one of you. To join me in making sure these rebels and criminals get nowhere. We must stop this rebellion dead in its tracks. Once again, I am in your debt, and your fates are in your own hands. Thank you."

In Albania some hard decisions were made. The Army realized that they were about to conduct a gallant last stand as soon as spring came. Many officers were appalled by the governments backing of the rebels in Kosovo, who were committing atrocities. They were even more appalled because they realized that no one was going to save them except maybe the Italians, and as those were Russian ships offshore and not Italian ships, that looked hopeless.

There was only one thing to do. On Friday, December 23, elements of the army near the capital suddenly left their barracks and took up positions surrounding police stations. Other elements, generally intelligence officers and staff officers, went to the homes of the senior leaders of the government, backed up by troops and the few motor vehicles the government had. The Presidential Guard was surrounded in its barracks by artillery and infantry with machine guns and ordered to surrender. It swiftly did when it became clear that resistance was hopeless.

The President, and most of his senior leaders were killed as they rested in their beds or taken out and shot. By morning it was over. The commanders of the Army announced martial law on the radio as dawn broke over the mountains, and sent word to the Brazilian Embassy asking them to mediate a settlement.

Meanwhile orders went out to the army units on the border. Pull back 10 miles and secure all refugee compounds, and all villages. KLA members are to be ordered to surrender or shot if they resist. Captured KLA members will be held for trial for war crimes and murder.

This information is passed to the Brazilians to pass on to the Russians, French and Yugoslavs as well.

OOC
The Army is not interested in committing national suicide to save a bunch of bandits. It just spent a decade cleaning them out of their country, and they sure don't want to die defending new bandits who are worse than the ones they fought. They will fight if the French and Yugoslavs move past the 10 mile buffer zone, but only then. The Army mainly wants a deal that allows Albania to remain independent. The last straw was the order to storm the embassies.

Armestria, I am sorry, but this would certainly happen. Its not as if you have been invaded yet and had a chance to drum up a lot of nationalistic fervor. Your officers are going to be realistic, and competent, and smart enough to cut a deal to save the nation.

The Union immediately recognizes the new military Government of Albania.

The Union immediately recognizes the new military Government of Albania.

As do we.

Brazil announces military aerospace development

The Brazilian Army, suitably impressed by the successes of air power lent them by the Germans in the ongoing Brazilian Civil War, makes an agreement with Russia and France to purchase a standard fighter/recon aircraft and a long range bomber aircraft. Also, plans are drawn up to train, probably with the French, a paratroop regiment to fight in the Civil War.

The French would like to inquire if the Brazilians are interested in purchasing the new MAS-24 semi-automatic rifle. We have just begun production and plan to equip our own forces with it as soon as possible.

The French would like to inquire if the Brazilians are interested in purchasing the new MAS-24 semi-automatic rifle. We have just begun production and plan to equip our own forces with it as soon as possible.

We are very interested in this new weapon. As we are in the purchasing of your new fighter/recon aircraft.

Brazilian Mediating Commission:

The Foreign Office of Great Britain has granted permission for South Africa to send peacekeepers to Yugoslavia. We will send two infantry regiments (the Cape Town Rifles and the Natal Native Regiment, about 7000 soldiers) to Egypt via the Cape-Cairo railway, and from there they will be shipped to Yugoslavia.

Stanley Frazer
Minister of Defense

OOC: I'll post this in the relevant thread as well once I find it.

Although we are at war with the United States, we have NO wish to go to war with any other nation. We shall not attack or erode the interests of other nations even if they are allied with the USA. Our quarrel is with the US, not anywhere else. We shall not declare war on ANY other nations unless they first declare it on ourselves. Good day.

If Brazil intends to stay true to that statement, we ask them to sign a Non-Aggression Pact with Colombia.

If Brazil intends to stay true to that statement, we ask them to sign a Non-Aggression Pact with Colombia.

Done. As long as you promise no naval blockade against our country for the duration of the war. Just so you know, we have signed a similar agreement with Argentina.

Alright then. But, no germans may come within 50 miles of the border with Colombia, Venezeula, or British Guiana.

Alright then. But, no germans may come within 50 miles of the border with Colombia, Venezeula, or British Guiana.

Agreed.

The Brazilian War Department has announced the following:

Increase of operations against the already weakened rebels.

Increase of naval/anti air defences on major beaches and possibly landing sights. Extensive concrete fortification of vital sections of the coastline.

Increase in production/purchase of recon/fighter aircraft and torpedo aircraft.

Production will begin in secret of around 150 torpedo boats and 200 submarines.

No foreign nationals will be arrested in the country. American citizens will be encouraged to leave the nation and their property will be nationalised. The rights of British Citizens will be protected, we are NOT at war with them.

The army is in the process of being equipped with the new weapons as dictated by the our German Allies.

Naval sorties will be undertaken by our existing fast cruisers/destroyers and submarines. Their task will be to range far and wide across the world searching for vulnerable American shipping.

Increased focus will be made on platoon level infantry tactics. Platoon level radio is put under development. Co-ordination between infantry and artillery units will be improved.

Several aircraft will be modified to carry radios and to correspond with regiments on the field, headquarters, and artillery sections.

Anti-aircraft guns and general fortification will be enacted in cities.

All citizens will be given gas masks and instructed in the correct procedure in case of gas or bombing attacks.

Telegram From Chaim Weizmann to Brazil

Unfortuantly we have no choice but to remove all our forces from Brazil, they are neede more in Zion where we fear a Nationalist uprising, we hope that this action does not strike through our friendship and we hope that we can still work together in the near future.

Yes we are at war with the Warsaw nations, but not with you. I don't want to drag a war over to South America.

Yes we are at war with the Warsaw nations, but not with you. I don't want to drag a war over to South America.

You do realise we are at war with the Americans? Nobody else, but still the Americans.

OOC:Gintonpar, do you have MSN or AIM?

Britain, with American prompting, is forced to announce the immediate closure of all British operations in Brazil and the withdrawal of all citizens form there. Britain hopes that the Brazilians will understand this situation and that our relation otherwise remains good (ie. not hostile!).

OOC:Gintonpar, do you have MSN or AIM?

flatbeat_5@hotmail.com

may i ask why?

Britain, with American prompting, is forced to announce the immediate closure of all British operations in Brazil and the withdrawal of all citizens form there. Britain hopes that the Brazilians will understand this situation and that our relation otherwise remains good (ie. not hostile!).

We accept this sad neccesity and hope that after this conflict you will reinvest in our country. We look forward to your return and dearly hope not to fight your nation in this conflict.

Deepest Regards,
Brazil's Politburo and Parliament.

flatbeat_5@hotmail.com

may i ask why?
OOC: To talk about some matters, that are at hand.

The debate in Parliament for the appropriation of funds from the war effort has just finished and the following military expansion has been announced:

Army:

Increase of 5 Divisions (50,000 men) to the Interior Army. Men to be drawn from the reserves army. - 9 months

Increase of tank numbers to 800 Panzer II tanks. - 1 year

Development of platoon level radio will be given a higher priority. -n/a

Tactical emphasis on co-ordination between artillery and infantry will be the focus of training exercises. - n/a

Heavy fortifications will be constructed on possible landing sights along the coastline. Fortification will include dual 18inch Naval guns emplaced in heavy concrete fortifications at defensible areas. The housings of the guns will be covered with camoflauge and protected by lines of trenches and machine gun nests. They will be manned by the men drawn from the regular army. - 3 years (though every day the defences will increase in strength, construction on other coastal defences has already been completed.)

All army units will be equipped with the latest French Model weaponry. - 1 year

The creation of 3 Mechanised Divisions of 8,000 men each will be undertaken and equipped fully with motorised transport and battalion level artillery will be drawn by motorised transports. - 2 years

Navy:

HIGHEST PRIORITY - The already announced increase in torpedo boat and submarine production will be further stepped up, with the goal of 200 submarines and 250 torpedo boats to be made ready. - 5 years

12 destroyers to be put under construction, along with 5 cruisers. - 8 years

Both of our battleships (ooc: yes we probably only have about 2 battleships), will be refitted to carry aircraft and be refitted to be made seaworthy. - 8 years

Air Corps:

The Air Corps will increase its fighter aircraft with the addition of 900 French built GL-22 fighter aircraft, 450 F.60 Torpedo Bomberss and 300 Bleriot 127 Multipurpose Bombers. A sector command structure will be implemented, as soon as sightings of enemy aircraft are confirmed, their relative sector will be reported to a unified command at sector headquarters so a squadron can be scrambled (ooc: think the British system in WWII during the Battle of Britain). - 2 years

2,500 new pilots are to be sent for training with French air units in France in the use of their machines. - 2 years

An Observer Corps will be created to both research into new observation techniques and to use existing techniques to spot and report incoming aircraft. - 6 months

Civilian

All civilians and military personnel will be equipped with gas masks.

Rationing will be implemented when and where it is neccesary.

Air Raid Protection Corps to be established to help deal with possible bomb damage in major civilian areas.

Women will be given roles flying both combat and non-combat roles in the air corps.

Women will be allowed to participate in combat roles in the Naval Arm.

All units will be non-segregated and multi-ethnic (ooc: historically one of the great strengths of the Brazilian Army).

Some of the socialist agenda will be postponed to focus the country's economy on the war effort, however, many of the socialist ideas have now been ingrained anyway into the nations conscience.

The rebels are withering from renewed military offensives and the cutting off of funds and arms from the USA. Eventually this will free up men for other areas of the country.

How the hell can you afford that?

You have been spending for ages while not renewing your coffers... especially now after fighting a rebellion AND being blockaded heavily by the US... you should collapse after this! 800 Tanks?! C'mon!

GB said only a few nations have the ability to make tanks.. you were not one of them. Especially when you only had 200 before... and no, you are not recieving them from Germany... theres a blockade.

ooc
check the main war thread.. a blockade has been instituted against Brazil by the US Navy. The waters around France and Germany are also contested at the moment, so attempting to enter those waters is almost as risky as entering Brazilian waters. LTA cruisers and destroyers are also hunting down Pact shipping, including Brazilian shipping on the high seas, as capturing or sinking it as quickly as possible.

In short, Brazil is no longer receiving war supplies from Europe, the Brazilian troops that were in Spain are trapped there, and Brazil can not send troops or even personnel to Europe easily.

How the hell can you afford that?

You have been spending for ages while not renewing your coffers... especially now after fighting a rebellion AND being blockaded heavily by the US... you should collapse after this! 800 Tanks?! C'mon!

GB said only a few nations have the ability to make tanks.. you were not one of them. Especially when you only had 200 before... and no, you are not recieving them from Germany... theres a blockade.

Are you part of this blockade? 'cause if you are thats a violation of our non-aggression pact.

ooc
check the main war thread.. a blockade has been instituted against Brazil by the US Navy. The waters around France and Germany are also contested at the moment, so attempting to enter those waters is almost as risky as entering Brazilian waters. LTA cruisers and destroyers are also hunting down Pact shipping, including Brazilian shipping on the high seas, as capturing or sinking it as quickly as possible.

In short, Brazil is no longer receiving war supplies from Europe, the Brazilian troops that were in Spain are trapped there, and Brazil can not send troops or even personnel to Europe easily.

Sorry, I didn't realise I was blockaded. I thought that collapsed after the Colombians signed a non-aggression pact with us. And it must be taking up a huge portion of your Navy to be doing this yes? My whole coastline? You would practically need a fleet for that.

And by the way, our troops withdrew from Spain immediately after Cadiz. They would have easily got home in time from there as war didn't start for another month and the blockade would not have been in place by then anyway.

Sorry, I didn't realise I was blockaded. I thought that collapsed after the Colombians signed a non-aggression pact with us. And it must be taking up a huge portion of your Navy to be doing this yes? My whole coastline? You would practically need a fleet for that.

look up the US Caribbean fleet and Atlantic Fleet on the US thread, and you don't have that many actual ports. In other words, I have a fleet for that.

look up the US Caribbean fleet and Atlantic Fleet on the US thread, and you don't have that many actual ports. In other words, I have a fleet for that.

Thanks for clearing that up.

How the hell can you afford that?

You have been spending for ages while not renewing your coffers... especially now after fighting a rebellion AND being blockaded heavily by the US... you should collapse after this! 800 Tanks?! C'mon!

GB said only a few nations have the ability to make tanks.. you were not one of them. Especially when you only had 200 before... and no, you are not recieving them from Germany... theres a blockade.

The rebellion is nearly over. They have stopped receiveing American arms and money and my army is getting more efficient at destroying the rebs and cutting their supplies.

And by the way, our troops withdrew from Spain immediately after Cadiz. They would have easily got home in time from there as war didn't start for another month and the blockade would not have been in place by then anyway.

Thats true, you could have pulled out in May

The rebellion is nearly over. They have stopped receiveing American arms and money and my army is getting more efficient at destroying the rebs and cutting their supplies.

Actually the rebellion is not nearly over, it had merely gone from high intensity to low intensity. Remember the losses you have taken so far as well. Vas hasn't resolved what happened since the last post either.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9758155&postcount=142

Actually the rebellion is not nearly over, it had merely gone from high intensity to low intensity. Remember the losses you have taken so far as well. Vas hasn't resolved what happened since the last post either.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9758155&postcount=142


Yes but you said yourself the US had cut funding. And Japan? I imagine they will have cut their supplies with the war effort. You also stated the supply lines of arms from the US had stopped. Come on, this is not a Vietnam, the Brazilian Government troops are fighting for something they believe in and the rebels will have taken huge casualties by now. Also we have a huge manpower reserve to draw on, plus technological advances such as aircraft and flame tanks. Plus we are using ever increasing numbers of paramilitary troops (the PRF) against the rebels. And remember, this has been going on for a long time now, morale will be low because of the reduction in American aid and for the consistent defeats in the field. And the Indians? Be realistic, like they care about politics. Why on Earth would they fight for the rebels? They hate everybody equally and as I posted a while back it was the Brazilian Government who initially sent out feelers to the Indians when it was feared the Americans might invade from Venezuela.

Yes but you said yourself the US had cut funding. And Japan? I imagine they will have cut their supplies with the war effort. You also stated the supply lines of arms from the US had stopped. Come on, this is not a Vietnam, the Brazilian Government troops are fighting for something they believe in and the rebels will have taken huge casualties by now. Also we have a huge manpower reserve to draw on, plus technological advances such as aircraft and flame tanks. Plus we are using ever increasing numbers of paramilitary troops (the PRF) against the rebels. And remember, this has been going on for a long time now, morale will be low because of the reduction in American aid and for the consistent defeats in the field. And the Indians? Be realistic, like they care about politics. Why on Earth would they fight for the rebels? They hate everybody equally and as I posted a while back it was the Brazilian Government who initially sent out feelers to the Indians when it was feared the Americans might invade from Venezuela.

obviously we disagree, and I referred the matter to Vas to adjudicate. There is also the matter of how much you have had to spend so far to fight that very same war.

obviously we disagree, and I referred the matter to Vas to adjudicate

Oki doke. :)

Check the Brazilian Civil War Thread

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9778368&postcount=148

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9778324&postcount=147

The Brazilian Government is pulling out of the war and accepting the 5Billion US dollars and cutting off of aid to the rebels. Our country is choking under blockade and we can do nothing useful to aid our allies whilst under it. We apologise profusely to our allies but we cannot go on fighting a war where we cannot even strike back at the enemy.

We also cordially invite the British investors back to the country, however, we shall not sell war materials until after this conflict is over.

The British Investors are overjoyed at being able to return to their flourishing businesses in Brazil and will return as soon as the US blockade is lifted an dpeace declared. Britain announces some further industrial investment in Brazil though this will be small due to war expenditure.

OOC: The previously promised investment still stands though. ie the amount I promised if you declared peace with the LTA.

The Brazilian Government thanks the United Kingdom for her understanding in this matter and we hope that after the war especially, we shall be able to build closer ties. Nevertheless, we still hope for Pact victory in this war, though hopefully not at the expense of the United Kingdom. Once again, we thank our British friends for their help and understanding. We also are ready to accept from the United States the 5Billion US dollars we are owed as well as the lifting of the blockade.

The Brazilian Government thanks the United Kingdom for her understanding in this matter and we hope that after the war especially, we shall be able to build closer ties. Nevertheless, we still hope for Pact victory in this war, though hopefully not at the expense of the United Kingdom. Once again, we thank our British friends for their help and understanding. We also are ready to accept from the United States the 5Billion US dollars we are owed as well as the lifting of the blockade.

The US cheerfully transfers the funds to Brazil as soon as it signs the Pan American treaty. The US also hands over information on all contacts that it has made with the Rebels, information on their leaders, and transfers all funds in the Chilean and Paraguayan banks (some $60 million split evenly between both countries) to the host governments. The US 10th Fleet is immediately ordered elsewhere.

The US cheerfully transfers the funds to Brazil as soon as it signs the Pan American treaty. The US also hands over information on all contacts that it has made with the Rebels, information on their leaders, and transfers all funds in the Chilean and Paraguayan banks (some $60 million split evenly between both countries) to the host governments. The US 10th Fleet is immediately ordered elsewhere.


Huzzah. We still don't want you to win :P

The Peruvian government supports you with the rebel groups going in to Ecuador. We wish to write a non-agression pact with you. The Peruvian government also wants to become good allies. 25% of are Congress is part of the Communist Party (PCP). While the Liberals (RLP) has 40% of the seats. Also the current president is a Liberal. The PCP and RLP help each other out. The cabinet of the President is about 40% communist. There is a thorn in our Congress called the Freedom Party. 35% of the seats in Congress belong to them. They talk out against the PCP. Also we think one of there radicals killed our communist President Lorude Nano.

The Peruvian government supports you with the rebel groups going in to Ecuador. We wish to write a non-agression pact with you. The Peruvian government also wants to become good allies. 25% of are Congress is part of the Communist Party (PCP). While the Liberals (RLP) has 40% of the seats. Also the current president is a Liberal. The PCP and RLP help each other out. The cabinet of the President is about 40% communist. There is a thorn in our Congress called the Freedom Party. 35% of the seats in Congress belong to them. They talk out against the PCP. Also we think one of there radicals killed our communist President Lorude Nano.

Who the hell are you? Cause you would be raped awefully fast.

The Peruvian government supports you with the rebel groups going in to Ecuador. We wish to write a non-agression pact with you. The Peruvian government also wants to become good allies. 25% of are Congress is part of the Communist Party (PCP). While the Liberals (RLP) has 40% of the seats. Also the current president is a Liberal. The PCP and RLP help each other out. The cabinet of the President is about 40% communist. There is a thorn in our Congress called the Freedom Party. 35% of the seats in Congress belong to them. They talk out against the PCP. Also we think one of there radicals killed our communist President Lorude Nano.

why does Peru have a communist party with any kind of power in 1925. You need to come up with a convincing back story that somehow allows communists to gain power in a situation where a small minority control nearly all of the land, guns, money and power in that country. Although I have been highly skeptical of the socialist and communist movements so far in this game, at least the Brazilian player came up with a good back story.

Otherwise, a coup will occur in Peru, or an invasion from Chile and Colombia. By the way Brazil, the US and British money is contigent on Brazil remaining neutral in this war, and attempting to subvert Ecuador (which is not only in the Pan American treaty, which you signed again, but also in the LTA, and therefore we have to defend that country, in spite of its leadership) is not going to be looked at kindly, even if its unofficial.

Its entirely possible that the US and British government wouldn't buy the story, even though its true, that the guerillas aren't receiving active support from the Brazilian government.

By the way, as its been a year, the Rebellion is now pretty much limited to occasional bank robberies, murders and thuggery in the rural areas, and some political activity remains as well (although the measure of support the Right has is pretty limited). The US honored its commitment to provide intel, and most of the Rebels logistics networks were crushed or dried up.

With the PRF though we aren't even supplying them at all. The Government in fact is getting nervous of their power (think the SA in Hitler's Germany early on) and although it supports their actions in Brazil, they are basically violent, idealogically motivated paramilitary terrorists bent on destruction. I can't be on very long so I will consider and post more later.

Some the communist from Brazil went to Peru to start a new communist party. But that is soon to change after a riot and bombing of their headquater they are on the decline. The Freedom Party now has 65% of the seats in Congress. While the Communist have 5%. The Liberal have 30%. So the in election, in Januray 1926, it will between the Freedom Party (anti-communist) and the Liberal (somewhat pro-communist).

Brazilian Election Coming Up



Brazil has suffered years of strife since becoming the World's first socialist democracy and only recently has President Lafuentes taken the country out of a state of emergency. With the rebellion under control, the country stabilising economically, and trade barriers down with most of the world, Brazil stands ready to enter a cycle of prosperity. There are, however, some obstacles. Mainly the hardline leftists in the government and the rising support communism is finding as violence against the remaining rebels escalates. However, since the rebellion most of the right wing leadership has been driven underground as a wave of anti-right political paranoia has effectively silenced them. Now it is up to a few main parties to decide the future of Brazil, and since most parties have reinvented themselves for the election they are known as:




The Brazilian Communist Alliance

A growing collection of hard left groups including many military men, including, as a point of influence, General Os of Civil War fame. This burgeoning alliance is riding on a wave of popularity as the clear opponents of the right and are in favour of re-opening hostilities with the LTA, though they still wish to keep the peace in Latin America.




Catholic Truth

Catholic Truth is an organisation that aims to re-establish the importance of religion in the state. They pledge to institute a god fearing government that will immediately go to war with the Pact for invading Rome, the holiest of cities. Apart from this they have no real popularity and little support among the urban intelligencia.




Stability

This party favours what its name suggests. A dead centre party, it has no views on foreign policy and makes it clear that it simply wants the restoration of law and order, the establishment of internal commerce, the cessation of hostilities with the rebels, with the view to bringing them into the democratic process, and the development of public services. Has strong support among the skilled working classes and models itself as a transitional government that will not stay in office longer than one (6 year) term.




Liberal Socialists

The newly renamed ruling party. Headed by the charismatic President Lafuentes this party has appraised the current world situation and favours increased commercial ties with the United Kingdom, a cool disdain of US interests, an active foreign policy diplomatically with support of the Pact and militarily on the Continent in order to preserve the current balance of power. Economically, they wish to preserve major industries and public services in government ownership but start to grant more freedom to private industry, though this will be closely monitored to prevent a repeat of the Pseudo-Feudal estates that lent the rebellion its largest support base. Aims at creating a landowning class from party loyalists and foreign (mainly British) businessmen.




Conservative Peoples Party

Since the gutting of most right wing politicians from Politburo due to lack of popularity, the CPP is the last truly right wing party to maintain any credibility, though it is suspected that the new Liberal Socialists and the Stability parties will steal many votes as both have made a more central standing. The CPP is demoralised and lacks direction except to move slightly more central.

OoC: "Hustings"? Bloody limey.

SIC
This is a note delivered, by hand, by a Russian agent of the Agenturnaya Zashchitnikov Revolyutsionnikh, the Russian espionage organization, who traveled to Brazil working on a tramp steamer from Sweden.

Extremely Confidential

To the Politburo of the United States of Brazil,

Comrades, as you are no doubt aware, things have grown desperate on our Western Front - we are pressed hard by the imperialists, who have rejected the ceasefire proposed by your neighbors in Argentina and issue such demands as the price of peace that would reduce proud and noble France to an English vassal state, while long-suffering Spain at last lies prone beneath the merciless heel of her conqueror.

This is, as we should say, a terrible state of affairs.

Comrades, we know that Moskva has served you but little in the past. But we beseech you, for the love you hold for France, not to desert your Comrades in their hour of need. The Resistance in bothe France and Spain is in dire need of equipment, training, and even men. We dare not ask you to support the Maquis openly. We have no wish to see Brazil meet the fate that Washington surely contemplates for her. But if you could, perhaps, quietly allow some volunteers from your fearsome PLF to make their way across the seas, to give their comrades the benefit of their experience and training, it would strike a great blow for the cause of liberty.

And if, perhaps, some arms shipments were to go missing [OoC: Which is to say, production points] to find their way somehow to the freedom fighters of the Continent, this, too, would be a great service to the Revolution, and to free men and women everywhere.

We ask this not for ourselves, but for the People of France, and for the cause of peace.

Thank you.

Otto Ville Kuusinen, Premier of the Union of Social-Democratic Republics

OoC: "Hustings"? Bloody limey.

SIC
This is a note delivered, by hand, by a Russian agent of the Agenturnaya Zashchitnikov Revolyutsionnikh, the Russian espionage organization, who traveled to Brazil working on a tramp steamer from Sweden.

Extremely Confidential

To the Politburo of the United States of Brazil,

Comrades, as you are no doubt aware, things have grown desperate on our Western Front - we are pressed hard by the imperialists, who have rejected the ceasefire proposed by your neighbors in Argentina and issue such demands as the price of peace that would reduce proud and noble France to an English vassal state, while long-suffering Spain at last lies prone beneath the merciless heel of her conqueror.

This is, as we should say, a terrible state of affairs.

Comrades, we know that Moskva has served you but little in the past. But we beseech you, for the love you hold for France, not to desert your Comrades in their hour of need. The Resistance in bothe France and Spain is in dire need of equipment, training, and even men. We dare not ask you to support the Maquis openly. We have no wish to see Brazil meet the fate that Washington surely contemplates for her. But if you could, perhaps, quietly allow some volunteers from your fearsome PLF to make their way across the seas, to give their comrades the benefit of their experience and training, it would strike a great blow for the cause of liberty.

And if, perhaps, some arms shipments were to go missing [OoC: Which is to say, production points] to find their way somehow to the freedom fighters of the Continent, this, too, would be a great service to the Revolution, and to free men and women everywhere.

We ask this not for ourselves, but for the People of France, and for the cause of peace.

Thank you.

Otto Ville Kuusinen, Premier of the Union of Social-Democratic Republics


ooc: yes. hustings. damn straight.

Also my government would be more than pleased to send some of the PRF abroad. Frankly, they are becoming a threat with their open backing of the Brazilian Communist Alliance. Some are moving through to Ecuador and some will duly be allowed onto ships destined for the continent. Sadly, we won't allocate production points as we need them all for our country but suffice to say the PRF will not leave empty handed.

On the subject of production points Vas, what do you recommend I spend mine on? I really am not sure how best to allocate them as I am not exactly in a full scale war.

On the subject of production points Vas, what do you recommend I spend mine on? I really am not sure how best to allocate them as I am not exactly in a full scale war.
I don't know what kind of production you've got. You need a navy, and could probably use an air force, but the smart things to spend you production on would probably be industry, merchant shipping, and defensive works like coastal batteries and flak installations. In about that order of priority.

I don't know what kind of production you've got. You need a navy, and could probably use an air force, but the smart things to spend you production on would probably be industry, merchant shipping, and defensive works like coastal batteries and flak installations. In about that order of priority.

ooc
Brazil has the same production as Argentina, 3 points a turn and is tech level 5 so cannot build air transport, armored cavalry, armored or carrier units but pretty much anything else. Brazil also cannot purchase research (at least the research available at the moment)

Well I started coastal defences and flak a long time ago so they should be in a pretty good state by now so how about some merchant shipping?

Colombia states that it supports the Stability party, as it seems to be the best option of the parties. The Catholic Truth and the Conservative Peoples Party are too extreme, as is the Communist Alliance Party. Colombia believes that the Stability party is best for Brazil.

Colombia would like to inform the stability party that if they were to win the majority, Colombia would gladly assist Brazil in getting back on its feet.

Well I started coastal defences and flak a long time ago so they should be in a pretty good state by now so how about some merchant shipping?

that was so long ago I don't even remember it... where did you post it? (post a link)

Well I started coastal defences and flak a long time ago so they should be in a pretty good state by now so how about some merchant shipping?

The following ports should be fortified with coastal batteries:

*Sao Paolo
*Rio de Janeiro
Rio Grande do Sul
Victoria
Bahia
Recife
Para
Sao Luis
Portaleza

Sao Paolo and Rio de Janeiro, at least, should also have strong garrisons and flak emplacements.

This is a long-term thing, probably. With only three production points, you'll probably actually want to drop two of them on developing industry. The other one you could use for defenses or for merchant shipping, or alternate between the two.

I will use the spare point for developing industry I think.

And helping the country get back on our feet? We are on our feet. We have just recieved 5Billion dollars from the USA for non-participation in the war and a huge industrial investment from Great Britain.

By 1932.

In the post war years, government spending was cut initially and the election occured. Just to clarify, Brazil elects representatives with 70% of Parliament being elected with First Past The Post and the remaining 30% being elected with proportionalm representation and the MPs elected this way are 'top up' members from party lists. The 8 man Politburo, the country's highest authority, is elected using Proportional Representation and the parties may select who is elected to this body if they have enough votes to have a member there.

The results were as follows:

Brazilian Communist Alliance: 21% of seats This was due to increasing support for hardline communist reform and to public figureheads such as the support from General Os and the 'aggressive' campaigning of PRF activists.

Catholic Truth: 4% of seats. Performed poorly as Brazil gradually moves to become more secular and the party has little policy anyway.

Stability: 31% of seats. Its promise of economic stability has been siezed upon by former conservatives and has a firm support base in the most war torn areas of the country that have not been turned to revenge by the Communists.

Liberal Socialists: 40% of seats. President Lafuentes' concessions towards economic stability and his close ties with Great Britain, as well as his promise for social reform, have led to a good surge in popularity for the revitalised party.

Conservative People's Party: 2% of seats. A shadow of its former self. Most of its votes were taken by Stability and it has had no figurehead or really identifiable policy lines. A shockingly awful result for them.

Other Parties: 2% of seats. A surprisingly low amount of minor parties were elected. Probably because the election was viewed as being so important and so few votes were cast that had the potential to be wasted.

Outcome.

Surprisingly, the Liberal Socialists go into coalition not with the Communist Alliance but with Stability. That being their very intention. The Liberal Socialists want economic stability married with extensive social reform and a coalition with stability could well be beneficial. Especially considering the Communists may well vote with the Liberal Socialists on many issues anyway.



ooc: I will post more on my countries changes from 1928 to 1932 a bit later on.

ooc: Sweet Election. Colombia likes you now.

ooc: Sweet Election. Colombia likes you now.


Make no mistake, the political consensus in the country is still very much centre left. I aim eventually for it to be the opposite of the US today.

For example, in the US right wing views are constantly expounded and left wing views are in the firm minority (apart from the social liberal view, I'm thinking mainly economically etc..). Anyway, more stuff to come.

The Politburo as of 1928 was thus (with the winners bonus for the party with the most votes going to the Liberal Socialists, they gain the 8th seat):


Liberal Socialists: 4 seats
Stability: 2 seats
Communist Alliance: 2 seats

Immediately the Politburo puts forward legislation, verified with a firm majority in the Senate, for a six year plan that will last the entire term of this government and ultimately will be what the government is judged on (ooc: bear in mind this is 1928). The plan is as follows (using the rules for the 5 year plan laid down by the mods):

Build points will be split between maintaining improvements in the healthcare system, especially in inner city and extreme rural areas. In more wealthy areas, the government will give incentives to the taking up of private healthcare.

Industrial initiatives will be started to exploit the countries reserves of rubber, coffe andtimber mainly, though other avenues will be explored thoroughly. Private business will be given a much freer hand, though it will still be subject to thorough government inspections and minimum wage and working condition laws.

An extensive shipping fleet will be created with the aim of opening up trade fully with all countries of the world.

British industry will be accomodated fully.

The armed forces will be scaled down. Troops will still be recruited from the Ukraine into the International Brigade which will be amalgamated with the State Guard with the aim of creating an ultra loyal cadre of troops. The army will move from being a cumbersome force of troops to being a smaller force of mainly mechanised infantry. There will be no spending increases on the government, the money spent on modernisation will be culled from cutting excess regiments.

Zeppelin link with Germany will be cultivated with the aim of sponsoring tourism and trade via zeppelin and other air transport.

All official ties with the PRF will be cut, with the aim of encouraging fighters either to move elsewhere to fight, protest peacefully, or join the regular army and thus provide a stream of battle hardened recruits to stiffen the prowess of regular units.

To sum up, the three main aims of this government are:

Stabilise and expand the economy, mainly by sea trade and encouraging industry.

Cut military strength and spending, with the ultimate aim of modernising the armed forces.

Create a streamlined and effective public healthcare initiative, while still supporting private healthcare.

Argentina is pleased to see Brazil transforming itself, and unofficially pleased to see that Brazil remains anti-American. While fearful of socialism, Argentina is slowly finding it's original "Classical Liberal" roots, and is pleased to see Brazil moving more to the center where they themselfs currenly sit.

We really need to modernise and this 6 year term will be a big period for that. Stability said they would only stay in for one term but since they didn't win the Presidency they will stand again in 1934.

Argentina is pleased to see Brazil transforming itself, and unofficially pleased to see that Brazil remains anti-American. While fearful of socialism, Argentina is slowly finding it's original "Classical Liberal" roots, and is pleased to see Brazil moving more to the center where they themselfs currenly sit.

ooc
see League of Nations thread Argentina... while Brazil has an excellent reason to be anti American, Argentine justification is questionable at this point.

We really need to modernise and this 6 year term will be a big period for that. Stability said they would only stay in for one term but since they didn't win the Presidency they will stand again in 1934.

ooc
Brazil at this point should have recovered completely from the strains of the previous decade, and has a good economy. The urban poor are growing in numbers however as people move to the cities (a problem that is going to start growing for all of the non industrialized world fairly soon as health care improves and society changes. Its part of the process of change from agricultural to industrial economies. Brazil just happens to be the latest nation to deal with it.

China, Korea and the Ottoman Empire are next.

The Politburo as of 1928 was thus (with the winners bonus for the party with the most votes going to the Liberal Socialists, they gain the 8th seat):


Liberal Socialists: 4 seats
Stability: 2 seats
Communist Alliance: 2 seats

Immediately the Politburo puts forward legislation, verified with a firm majority in the Senate, for a six year plan that will last the entire term of this government and ultimately will be what the government is judged on (ooc: bear in mind this is 1928). The plan is as follows (using the rules for the 5 year plan laid down by the mods):

Build points will be split between maintaining improvements in the healthcare system, especially in inner city and extreme rural areas. In more wealthy areas, the government will give incentives to the taking up of private healthcare.

Industrial initiatives will be started to exploit the countries reserves of rubber, coffe andtimber mainly, though other avenues will be explored thoroughly. Private business will be given a much freer hand, though it will still be subject to thorough government inspections and minimum wage and working condition laws.

An extensive shipping fleet will be created with the aim of opening up trade fully with all countries of the world.

British industry will be accomodated fully.

The armed forces will be scaled down. Troops will still be recruited from the Ukraine into the International Brigade which will be amalgamated with the State Guard with the aim of creating an ultra loyal cadre of troops. The army will move from being a cumbersome force of troops to being a smaller force of mainly mechanised infantry. There will be no spending increases on the government, the money spent on modernisation will be culled from cutting excess regiments.

Zeppelin link with Germany will be cultivated with the aim of sponsoring tourism and trade via zeppelin and other air transport.

All official ties with the PRF will be cut, with the aim of encouraging fighters either to move elsewhere to fight, protest peacefully, or join the regular army and thus provide a stream of battle hardened recruits to stiffen the prowess of regular units.

To sum up, the three main aims of this government are:

Stabilise and expand the economy, mainly by sea trade and encouraging industry.

Cut military strength and spending, with the ultimate aim of modernising the armed forces.

Create a streamlined and effective public healthcare initiative, while still supporting private healthcare.

Cool. The Socialists have won the Chilean 1930 Presidential Election. No nationalization in Chile, so we're probably pretty much on the same page as Brazil. The main economic agenda is improving domestic transportation and expanding the power grid.

General Election

Parties



Brazilian Communist Alliance- Not expected to do well. Lafuentes' reforms have cut the number of urban and rural poor and scythed away a proportion of the support the Alliance held. Also, divisions are beginning to emerge as to whether the Brazil would openly join the Warsaw Pact or remain an independent communist state. This will lessen their effectiveness. General Os has also retired, leaving the party without a public figurehead.



Catholic Truth- dissolved after poor performance in 1928 election.



Stability- dissolved as promised after serving a term in (partial power).


Liberal Socialists- Clear favourites. Promises a firm stance against any aggression on the South American continent and more jobs coming from the private sector after the latest in a series of tax breaks on big business. Hardline socialists have been appeased with the introduction of higher minimum wage laws and working conditions laws. Schemes promised for rural poor to work in industry that is expanding into the Amazon basin and the urban poor will be accomodated with public works schemes building a new chain of power plants around their home cities. They will be paid minimum wage for working on these schemes but comfortable government built houses await workers who complete a one year tenure working in the schemes. Basically, work for a year in poor pay and then you get a free house in a nice middle class neighbourhood.



Forward Brazil- The prime focus for right leaning voters. The right has at last found its voice but the old military officer class and the rural landowning class have both been eradicated almost by the civil war. Industrial leaders are the focus for the new right wing party and promise lower taxation and prosperity. There is a great deal of mistrust towards right wingers in Brazil now however, following the civil war and the propaganda blaming it on the landowning right and the military aristocracy. Still expected to do well with traditional right wing voters.

Brazilian Communist Alliance

13% of seats.

A poor performance due to steady erosion of urban and rural poor. Enough to win a seat on the Politburo, however,

Liberal Socialists

56% of seats.

A solid win confirming a further six years in power for the government of President Lafuentes.

Forward Brazil

25% of seats.

A good performance for the new party, though still tiny when compared to the now dominating Liberal Socialists.

Other

Includes some hardline communists, right wing fanatics, and independent candidates. Not a significant result under a system that does, after all, have 30% of its seats allocated by Proportional Representation.

6% of seats.



Composition of the Politburo


Brazilian Communist Alliance


1 seat.



Liberal Socialists


5 seats. Claimed the winners bonus of an extra Politburo seat after gaining the most overall votes.



Forward Brazil


2 seats.

Shortly after his election victory, President Lafuentes announced a cabinet reshuffle, appointing high profile communists that have stayed loyal to the party to high positions. He has also named some of the more right leaning members of the party to more prestigious posts and then filled the rest of the positions with centre left candidates.




President: Snr. Lafuentes. (centre left, balancer, ready to preserve stability of Brazil with a robust approach to international affairs while maintaining focus on improving the lives of ordinary Brazilians)

Interior Minister: Snr. Ferreira (communist, stayed loyal to the Liberal Socialists in hope of office, very ambitious)

Home Secretary: Snr. Tevez (centre right, stayed with the party in the hope of introducing reform through a winning party, rewarded with high post and expected to be tough on crime especially)

Foreign Minister: Snr. Carvalho (hard left, favours strong ties with the USDR and an open anti-American approach)

Defence Minister: Snr. Oliveira (communist, decorated civil war veteran, puts forward the case of improving the army very forcefully)

Minister for the Economy: Snr. Milivesky (centre left, former economics professor, graduated from Harvard University and worked for Goodyear in Brazil. He became dissilusioned with the exploitation of workers and, after attaining Brazilian citizenship, joined the Liberal Socialists. Here he is in charge of organising the many public works projects spearheaded by the party and combines hard-headed business acumen with a very real desire not to let complete capitalism ruin the lives of more people. Tipped to shine.)

Minister for Health: Snr. Cardez (centrist, hard worker, attempting to expand healthcare to all sectors of society while maintaining private healthcare initiatives)


ooc: These are the main ones. Assume the other posts are filled by centre left party members.

And what aboot your point spending?

Brazil, need information on your military forces and also what your national spending is like at this point.