NationStates Jolt Archive

This is only for the Antarctic war people...
For:IOS
Palixia
Korridan
Lone Alliance Colonies
Imported ViZion
Frozopia
Carthago Deuce
VVV
The Velkyan Union

A armed delgation for the Velkyan government has been sent.

It consists of 3 negotiators, and 4 Halo force commandos. They will arrive via C-130.

We also respectfully ask that all countries be invited to attend, as to clear out the Antartric situation as throughly as possible.

The IOS Premier, accompnyed with the Imperial Soveriegn Protectors/Royal Guard, arrived with the Premier, by usage of a heavily armored Private Jet, using Harrier Jet technology.

Prince Vladstin III has arrived with 6 Imperial Guards via a heavily armored private jet.

As the host of the delegation, we will open the ceremony to anyone willing to come. Just only speak if it is important.

"I have a proposition to make. I propose that the United Socialist States of Korridan should pay The Juris Naturalis nation of ViZion an amount equal to ten percent of the current monetary value it exports, for five years, and in exchange, the nation of ViZion will allow Korridan it's independence."

To: The Velkyan Union
From: Vice President Johan Ansgar, Carthago Deuce

We will be sending a single diplomat to act as an observer. His name is Christoffer Torgeir, and he should be arriving shortly.

Not a problem.

The Velkyan Union thinks that the Korridan should remain a protectorate of Vizon until in pays the sum that IOS has laid out. We also think that the hidden nuclear stockpile that Korridan has ammased should be brought into light, as should allegation of terrorist-type attacks. As a final point, all Vizon research stations should be left alone and be controlled by Vizon until decommisioned. What say you?

Do not forget to address Frozopia's religious objections to the mere existance of New Siberia.

"All parties cannot be satisfied completly. But however we mu-"

*beep* *beep* *beep*

The velkyan delegate looked at his contact unit.

"My god..."

"What?"

"The V.S.S. eagle has detected a large object over Korridan airspace!"

"I see there is no reason to decommision the research stations. The pursuit of knowledge and science is of no threat or concern to you."

I mean until decommisioned by Vizon, whevever that may be. I would also recommend the handover of these instellations to Korridan when you are done with them, as they may have some use for them.

"Were you talking about Nuclear Weapons Research Stations, or just research stations in general?"

Normal scientific research stations.

"Well, that makes no sense. Why would Korridan have to give up it's normal scientific research stations to ViZion? I see little reason behind that. Maybe it's possible that you just want to hinder their scientific development, so..annexation would be easier in the future."

We will also need to ensure that all surviving Siesatian pilots are returned to Siesatia. That is why they are going to war at present, is it not?

"Unfortunately, they are not involved in the peace summit, and that is not what we are here to discuss."

You are confusing me.

When and if Vizon decommsions up it's Artic research stations, I believe they should be handed over to Korridan.

We have no wish to annex Korridan.

We are here to ensure that the residents of New Siberia, the citizens of The Socialist States of Korridan specificaly, are able to enjoy a peacful existance; free of war. Siesatia is a threat to that peace, and as such placating them is an issue up for discussion.

"Oh, I apologize to the Velkyan Union. I misunderstood what they said, and again, I apologize. I thought they meant that Korridan had to hand over it's research stations. Again, I apologize for misunderstanding your proposal, and I agree fully with it. I agree with your terms. We shall wait and see if Korridan, and ViZion do as well."

The fate of those pilots is an issue here also.

OOC: How the hell do they get to use FT technology?

Firstly because nobody complained about it. Secondly becuase they were being fair in its use (they have not yet done anything we couldn't do, other than fly a craft which is several kilometers long).

That is quite beside the point of this though, we are disscussing their pilots, not their tech.

OOC: That and their technology has shields, and all that stuff that we aren't even close to having, or will be close to having, in the next 500 years.

A lot of good those shields do them, if they can't even protect their fighters from _World War Two era Russian Flak guns_.

OOC: Fine. I'll let it go this time, but there have better not be any lasers...

I agree, lasers would be too much. And not a very good weapon in any environment that isn't a vacume.

OOC: Yeah. It's more PFT, pre-future tech or something. I dunno. It's ok...this time. But whenever we start a topic, we should specify if it's just MT, PMT, or etc.

OOC: im totally against the FT, but im not really the complaining type so if every1 else is ok with it, so am i. As long as Frozopia isn't blown up by some deathstar, im ok.

IC:
The Frozopian diplomat has arrived: Peace keeper Rogers (OOC: hah peace keeper.....)
"We apologise for the lateness. We under no grounds accept the existence of the State Of Korridan. God did not intend for man to change the world in such away. Therefore we will not relent on our crusade till the Island is destroyed (OOC: Please note the Church and the King are quite easily bribed over these beliefs). You can argue that by destroying the island we are being self-contradictory but we believe that with the destruction of the Island our God be appeased. It is the only way to undo the damage we have done."

"If God never wanted us to change the world this way, he would have never given us the miracle of Plastic Explosives."

Frozopia exactly what religion are you fighting for Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, Islam, etc.

"Those are your individual beliefs."

"We have our own branch of Christianity. Do not try to argue with us that our beliefs are wrong. That will get you nowhere."

The Delegate from Korridan has arrived, with 100 of the most elite Red Guard soldiers.


"First and foremost, any peace agreement expecting our signature, must ensure the soverignty of the Korridanian Government, Second, we will not be made a puppet to any foreign imperialist power, and third, we will not disband the armaments we have established for our defence, other provisions can be argued upon."

OOC: these talks may take awhile. Remember. All we want is a bribe!

OOC: You do know that Railguns are MORE Powerful than lasers, and that the USAF is currently working ona laser with enough strength to cut steel armor plates.... but w/e, a weapon by any other name is a weapon, and I can utilize each to their fullest potential.

You might also want to know, that my Guide to Modern Tech Space Based Weaponry (Link in the siggy) includes alot of info on this topic, and was widely accepted, and even made the II Cosolodation sticky that you so love to quote.

As to deathstars, I never agreed with that concept, and do not possess any 'Doomsday Weapons' even though 99% of my peers do.

I shall be back in a few hours, as I have to visit a friend who is leaving the state. I will post an IC then.

I never said anything concerning their power. The reason I suggested railguns is because they are closer to the level of technology used by everyone else in the thread.

OOC: We're using tanks, bullets, and airplanes...

"Korridan will keep it's soverignity. I also remind them that a huge amount of arnaments stationed on Korridan, are property of the IOS. Also, you will not be a puppet. All you will have to do, is to pay a small tribute, to ViZion.

I suggest an Antarctic Defense Pact.

At the very least, you must make war reperations to Vizon, if you will not become a protectorate of Vizon. We also suggest a revealing of all Korridin WMDs for weapons inspection.

There will be no bribes, either.

On a side note, the Velkyan Capital Defense Division "Captial Boys", is worried about the presence of so many non-allied troops in the heart of Velkya. We request that you maintain a squad-sized security network, otherwise you will be ejected from the talks.

OOC: I shall be back in a few hours.

Very well, we shall reduce the number of Guards to 20 then, given our inferior technology we believe this number would be acceptable. Also, that majority of our weapons and armaments were purchased before the creation of New Siberia, Do you really think Flak Cannons and T-34's belong to Vizion?

"You will not have to give up your weapons. You just need to let me have the weapons I stationed in Korridan."

You possess nuclear weapons. We need to know about them. We suggest monetary reperations would be acceptable, as it was vizon land you took, and you should have to pay for it, at the least.

"That was what the ten percent of exportations was intended to do."

Korridan is unaware of weapon stockpiles of Serapindall, but is willing to give up stashes that are found.

OOC: Sorry, back

IC: "We believe that Korridan didn't have the right to blow off some of our land, but we allow the land of New Siberia to be leased and if we wish to have more land on it we can allow that... It will take place on the Western Section of the Marie Bryd Land, Possibly 700 miles, Also I have an idea for an annual Antarctic summit where we talk about issues like these"


*Presents flag
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A lease suggest dependence, and Korridan will settle for nothing but ownership and soverign rule over New Siberia.

"Well, you could pay it all at once. That would be equivilant to half your yearly exportation."

"Frozopia consider's the existence of New Siberia as a cause for war"

"I'll pay you one million USD, to stop caring about them."

Laughter
"! million huh? very amusing."

As this will make most of you happy, Im going to pull out and just say I never entered this conflict, Im sorry for any confussion or trouble I caused and am very very deeply sorry. I think much of this came from me not seeing the posts that you guys have made.

"Frozopia, might you consider leaving it up to your diety to punish them after they've lived long productive lives? Instead of judging them yourselves? They are not bound by your religion which, if it is true, will ensure that they are punished suitably. If it isn't, well, then the joke is on you."

"How bout you just make New Siberia in a different place... like on the other side of Antartica, or in a completely different region."

"God does not need to intrude on this. God will punish the Korridan in their after lifes. We feel we could save their souls, by persuading them to abandon the island. If this can't be done, and war results in failure, then we will use our small Death-of-many range (nuclear weapons) to destroy their capital. This would be to prevent God's anger directed at us for failing to persuade the Korridan's for leaving the island."

"You have a population of 14 million. There is no way you can afford Nuclear Weapons."

"God does not need to intrude on this. God will punish the Korridan in their after lifes. We feel we could save their souls, by persuading them to abandon the island. If this can't be done, and war results in failure, then we will use our small Death-of-many range (nuclear weapons) to destroy their capital. This would be to prevent God's anger directed at us for failing to persuade the Korridan's for leaving the island."

"If God needn't indtrude, then why did you declare war in his/her name? And whether you have them or not, Nuclear weapons are not the answer. Especialy when the target is made primarily out of ice."

OOC: I could u know. i mean what North Korea have a population of 23 million? They have some nuclear weapons. I only need 1. And to be honest i never think much of the population rule. I understand its needed to stop rediculous large armies etc, but it basically means he who plays the longest has the biggest and baddest things. I could of continued the nation i started ages ago (I stopped playing NS) and had a population of a Billion +, and then just RP'ed with the biggest baddest army.

IC:
"You think we could not afford one Death-of-many weapon? For a one off strike? Do not be mistaken."

" God doesnt intrude with miracles etc. We do"

"Please consider the ecological implications of dumping large quantities of contaminated water into the oceans."

"If you tried to nuke their capital once with a low-yield nuke, the IOS could respond in order, and turn all of Frozopia into a smoking crater."

King Clauro IX was finally persuaded. Listening to the meeting threw a microphone on his representative, he paged Peace Keeper Rogers the new instructions:
"We have reconsidered the use of Nuclear weapons. Only God can judge the Korridan's souls now. If the war is settled we are willing to pull off are attack. If not we will stick by our allies."

King Clauro heard the threat. Feeling his anger rise, he almost considered changing his peacefull settlement:
"You can nuke all of Frozopia, all it will mean is a lot of dead innocents, in both New Siberia and Frozopia"

"I will not nuke Frozopia, if they do not nuke us. Some weapons were not meant to be used, and I hope it stays that way."

"Carthago Deuce is elated to hear that Frozopia is willing to cease their war-making in New Siberia. Thank you."

Velkya's representive spoke up.

"We will recognize Korridans independence if they make a payment of 100 million USD to the nation of Vizon and make the strngth of thier nuclear force known."

"But, If Frozopia decides to invade without warning, the retribution will be swift and acute."

"I will not give up the land to make a communist country... That's like killing innocent people, if New Siberia becomes even Democratic Socialist we will allow them to be their but if they did break their promise we would go back to war, I just want this to end peacful and democratic."

"If you truely desire peace and democrasy, then do not threaten war. Given the opportunity to vote, the majority of the population of Korridan would pursue a communist set of values. Please allow them to live as they desire. It is why they cut that chunk of ice off of the cap in the first place. Besides which, what is to say that they would not already have a democrasy up and running at this time, had it not been for the war? A young democratic state would be very difficult, and expensive, to run as opposed to imediatly giving their founder supreme authority."

"Also, the area of Graham land is already taken and is being restored by freezing the channel.... You may have New Siberia any place else, We will end this"

((What, when did you just freeze the channel? How did you do that? And when did this happen, as well I dont remmember any mention of that area before))

"I will pay the one hundred million for them."

The Empire of Vlad von Volcist will reconize Korridan as a independant country only if they pay the 100 million USD and give the people at least freedom to vote. Or they could let the me and my allies set up a joint base in New Siberia to make sure that the people aren't being oppressed and my country will pick up the 100 million USD bill. But only if I can build a base will I pick up the bill.

"Then as a last request, I suggest a defensive alliaince to protect Korridan against all agressors, and to protect the Antartica against more wars."

"What say you?"

"Carthago Deuce is willing enter such an alliance."

Signed nations

(This will be edited)

The Allied States of the Velkyan Union
Carthago Deuce
VVV
LA Colonies
Korridan

The Empire of Vlad von Volcist will sign that.

Lone Alliance Colonies have just arrived Sending one Representative and 4 defensive soldiers.

We apologize on our lateness.

And are also willing to sign a defensive Alliance.

The nation of Korridan accepts the proposal from Vlad von Volcrist to foot the bill in exchange for establishing a base to ensure the people of Korridan are being treated fairly, Ian states that there is nothing to hide.

Also, we are willing to join the alliance.

We are happy to see that Korridan has agreed to this treaty and will send a construction team up there soon to start building the base. Also we will pick up your 100 million USD bill as agreed.

Then this meeting is ajourned. You may all go back to your homelands now.

We are estatic that peace won over all-out war, and all Velkyan Forces will be recalled ASAP, nd all over friendly forces should do the same.

A more permenant treaty will be instuted soon.

Good Day.

OOC: went offline sorry.
IC: "Frozopia will also sign such a treaty. We feel it is our duty to protect the snow lands from any further incursions by man."

"We did it... because, the nation of Omigodtheykilledkenny claimed that land, but also the Democratic Empire of Palixia will sign the bill, let's let other nations sign the bill, but also, shall Korridan be apart of the Antarctic Oasis."