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From: The Republic of Torontia

To: The International Community

The Republic of Torontia would like to warn all nations of the threat to global security posed by the vile communist tyranny of the nation of Peopleita.

Peopleita has always shown a desire, in every war and political event that it involves itself with, to spread it's terrorist criminal ideology of communism!

Peopleita is indeed at the heart of a global communist plot to destroy and take over the world.

Torontia is in the midst of a civil war as we speak, a bloody war caused by an evil communist terrorist uprising against my government.

My government has only ever worked for the best interests of Torontia, yet the communist terrorists have ignored this and killed thousands.

Speaking as a nation that is a victim of global terrorism, we warn other nations to keep their guard against Peopleita.

Don't work or help Peopleita.

Don't even accept their 'aid' for their aid is nothing but the spreading of terrorism.

Stand firm against the evil communist threat.

President Paul Kaufman

I believe Peopleita's firm stance on pacifism and yet blockading every nation that makes any sort of non-'kosher' action has already earned it a enemy of the People status in the Glorious Republic of Leafanistan. However, your nation's acts against its own people don't make yourself such a great nation also.

-Minister of Staples

As an ally of Peopleita, Fatus Maximus would like to take the opportunity to point out that communism, like any other governmental system, is itself not inherently wrong. Communism is merely an alternative to a capitalist society. In a properly functioning communist society, leaders are appointed democraticly just like in other forms of government. We have found nothing to indicate the Peopleita is a terrorist nation.

As an ally of Peopleita, Fatus Maximus would like to take the opportunity to point out that communism, like any other governmental system, is itself not inherently wrong. Communism is merely an alternative to a capitalist society. In a properly functioning communist society, leaders are appointed democraticly just like in other forms of government. We have found nothing to indicate the Peopleita is a terrorist nation.

Well they tried to blockade Red Tide for stopping an attempt to overthrow the Red Tidean government. This baffled our leadership and we had to cut ties with them. Peopleita is dangerously unstable.

The Commandante would like to point out that Peopleita isn't a communist nation- We're in the process of building Socialism. And by the way, this reminds me of a country, Omanistan ;)

Considering that civil rights are unheard of and political freedoms are outlawed in Red Tide, we do not take issue with Peopleita's attempt to put pressure on them to make changes to their government. Besides, a blockade does not amount to terrorism.

From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Peopleita

Socialism/communism, same fucking difference!

Socialism is evil and is the same thing as communism.

both must be wiped out!

Your nation's use of terrorism to spread your evil ideology is well known by Torontia.

Once we have crushed the evil terrorist uprising in our nation, we may crush you!

President Paul Kaufman

The Commandante would like to point out that Peopleita isn't a communist nation- We're in the process of building Socialism. And by the way, this reminds me of a country, Omanistan ;)

OOC: It is but who cares. We need more people who antagonize and create trouble, gives us something to do.

Leafanistan is sorry we have to condemn Peopleita's actions but your needless antagonizing of other's has caused this. Will you now try to act a bit less, active?

-Minister of Ra-Ra-Rasputin

Considering that civil rights are unheard of and political freedoms are outlawed in Red Tide, we do not take issue with Peopleita's attempt to put pressure on them to make changes to their government. Besides, a blockade does not amount to terrorism.

Exactly. We have only ever entered one war, and that was only because Omanistan attempted to invade us. Leafanistan, you can back us up, you were allied with us during that war. We put the blockade on Red Tide because they were executing politiacl prisoners. The fact they were communist spurred us on. We would have done the same if they were conservative or radical Christians.

From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Peopleita

Socialism/communism, same fucking difference!

Socialism is evil and is the same thing as communism.

both must be wiped out!

Your nation's use of terrorism to spread your evil ideology is well known by Torontia.

Once we have crushed the evil terrorist uprising in our nation, we may crush you!

President Paul Kaufman

Leafanistan would like to point out that we are a socialist nation.

-Minister of Moskau, Moskau

OOC: It is but who cares. We need more people who antagonize and create trouble, gives us something to do.

Leafanistan is sorry we have to condemn Peopleita's actions but your needless antagonizing of other's has caused this. Will you now try to act a bit less, active?

-Minister of Ra-Ra-Rasputin

We're blameless in this. We saw something wrong, and we told the nation concerned that we disagreed with there action. Just because some hypocrit terrorist is deciding to attack us dosen't mean we're gonna stop what we're doing. Then they will have won. Mr. Kaufman, you can eat my arse.

Leafy.

You say your socialist, but what branch of socialism are you???

Leninist/trotskyist/maoist???

You have private companies in your nation.

Are you like RL China today?

Socialist on paper, capitalist in practice?

Besides, if we can group together we can invade Peopleita have have a nation to share between us, like you and the SWC have in Saharistan.

Think of the profits we can get from taking over Peopleita.

Mr. Kaufman, you can eat my arse.

Thanks, but no thanks!

I hate homos, they should be shot!

We're blameless in this. We saw something wrong, and we told the nation concerned that we disagreed with there action. Just because some hypocrit terrorist is deciding to attack us dosen't mean we're gonna stop what we're doing. Then they will have won. Mr. Kaufman, you can eat my arse.

Next time concern yourself with protecting yourself. Small nations have little to no impact on the international community.

The Commandante question's Mr. Kaufmans sanity. Leafanistan I realise we've had our disagreements in the past, but I ask for you to either stay neutral in the war that seems inetivable, or to side with us. Peopleita's defeces are now at maximum level

Leafy.

You say your socialist, but what branch of socialism are you???

Leninist/trotskyist/maoist???

You have private companies in your nation.

Are you like RL China today?

Socialist on paper, capitalist in practice?

Besides, if we can group together we can invade Peopleita have have a nation to share between us, like you and the SWC have in Saharistan.

Think of the profits we can get from taking over Peopleita.

OOC: The companies are all state-owned, but act as independent nations. Leafanistan is growing too large to High Father to control fully. So the Republican Senate was established, its more like a Confederation. We are socialist, however we can still sell to other nations.

Fancy carving up Peopleita???

BIG PROFITS TO BE MADE!!!

(OOC)

Peopleita:

As much as you would of liked the revolt in my nation to have won, thanks to Red Tide 2, the rebels are being killed en masse and near defeat.

The rebel leader, Jack Norton, who leads the rebels, the Anti-Capitalist Resistance Group (ACRG) can flee to your nation if you want?

Fancy taking in this commie scum of a leader into your nation?

Peopleita, we probably won't interfere until you are invaded.

(OOC)

Peopleita:

As much as you would of liked the revolt in my nation to have won, thanks to Red Tide 2, the rebels are being killed en masse and near defeat.

The rebel leader, Jack Norton, who leads the rebels, the Anti-Capitalist Resistance Group (ACRG) can flee to your nation if you want?

Fancy taking in this commie scum of a leader into your nation?

There will be no persecution for him if he comes to Peopleita

Great, with that terrorist scumbag in your nation, it gives us the excuse to invade you and make a killing in mega buck profits!

Here's the thing: Your a pussy hole of a nation and you have no allies. I can guarenty you at least 5 nations who will enter on my side if you choose to invade. Leafanistan is about twice your size, for your sake apologise to both of us.

The IOS concedes that Peoplieta does not have a real standing millitary, as it has no defence budget...the IOS will stay neutral if an invasion occurs, unless any side violates international law, such as the Geneva Convention. If any side does that, the IOS will intervene.

Here's the thing: Your a pussy hole of a nation and you have no allies. I can guarenty you at least 5 nations who will enter on my side if you choose to invade. Leafanistan is about twice your size, for your sake apologise to both of us.

Twice doens't adequately describe what kind of hell I can rain.

I have Red Tide 2.

Both of us will liberate your nation and bring market freedom to those business people oppressed by your crazy economic system!

HAH!

No defence budget!

Paul Kaufman can just walk into Peopleita himself and take it!

Ha! that doesn't mean I don't have an army. Look at my fact book. We have a good army. Red Tide is a coward, when he sees that he is outnumbered he will desert you.

oh, scary!

The only way you can stave off an invasion is to keep the rebels afloat.

Since NO nations are supporting the rebels, they are on the verge of defeat.

But I cannot do any invasions until the civil war is over.

oh, scary!

The only way you can stave off an invasion is to keep the rebels afloat.

Since NO nations are supporting the rebels, they are on the verge of defeat.

But I cannot do any invasions until the civil war is over.

OOC: You didn't let me join in your civil war thing clever man

The Imperium of Serapindal states that everyone except the IOS, should have a group hug, to quell any hostilities. The IOS recognizes Socialism as an alternate government to Capitalism, and the IOS states that while it uses Capitalism because it believes that Capitalism is more beneficial, the Imperium has no issues if any other nation wishes to use Socialism, if they believe it to be more beneficial to their country and people. The Imperium may, or may not intervene. We have yet to see.

"Al Ahmera will stand by Peopleita and her allies, and were capitalists!"
Lord Asamari II

Well as NO one is supporting the rebels, I think it best if anyone just jump in and help them, otherwise it will be one SHORT civil war.

Democracy, Communism, Fascism..all statism.

Anarchist fucks!

Your idiots.

lol, anarchism, the worst of the worst of ideologies!

You're off your head man

Well it looks like the insane "terror hunter" has been silineced

Ill only be silenced when Im thrown out of my palace!

But the commie scumbags are losing, so Kaufman's going to be around for some time!

Well, if you decide to invade Peopleita, you will be overthrown.

(OOC)

How about I support a right wing uprising in Peopleita?

Would love to see a CEO take charge of your nation!

OOC: No, if you read my fact book you'll see that, that scenario wouldn't be realistic.

From: The Republic of Torontia

To: Peopleita

Socialism/communism, same fucking difference!

Socialism is evil and is the same thing as communism.

both must be wiped out!

Your nation's use of terrorism to spread your evil ideology is well known by Torontia.

Once we have crushed the evil terrorist uprising in our nation, we may crush you!

President Paul Kaufman

The Allied States of The Lone Alliance DEMANDS that you retract your statement!

Not a chance.

Don't like my statements, what the hell are you going to do about it!!!

He's going to side with me. Yet another ally in your proposed invasion.

The Allied The Lone Alliance in a 13 to 7 vote by the Council. Out of the intense insult of Torontia's actions, on the failure to silience him through deplomatic means.

The Allied States of the Lone Alliance Declares war upon the nation of Torontia!

Prepare to be kicked out of your palace!

Oh, Im soooooo scared! :sniper:

HEY!

Im in the middle of a civil war after a left wing uprising.

I cannot fight two wars at once!

Oh, Im soooooo scared! :sniper:
OOC: Anyone want to help make an invasion thread?

The Allied The Lone Alliance in a 13 to 7 vote by the Council. Out of the intense insult of Torontia's actions, on the failure to silience him through deplomatic means.

The Allied States of the Lone Alliance Declares war upon the nation of Torontia!

Prepare to be kicked out of your palace!

The Commandante begss the Lone Allience to reconsider, it is against Peopleitas principals to side with a nation declaring war. Wait until he declares war on me, we have more than 7 allies already, you can not lose.

(OOC)

I have a civil war thread:

Leftist riot and civil war in Torontia

you can support the rebels there if you want.

(OOC: okay)

We will retract our War statement but we now consider you a threat to the world.

You can support the rebels if you want.

Go to that thread, read the 1st page to get an idea on what is going on etc...

OOC: For someone who claims to be a pacifist, Peopleita, you sure are a warmonger :p

I might point out that at this point even I am contemplating invading Torontia... a nation of 8 million is no threat to us militarily, I'm just getting really annoyed...

Torontia has not caused trouble to any nation.

We fight only internal terrorists and we only pointed out Peopleita's terrorist actions.

You cannot invade us for we have the moral high ground.

Plus my allies will nuke you into the stone age!

You know, if he's in the middle of a civil war, attacking him now, would be when he's weakest.

Torontia has not caused trouble to any nation.
We fight only internal terrorists and we only pointed out Peopleita's terrorist actions.
You cannot invade us for we have the moral high ground.
Plus my allies will nuke you into the stone age!
Which of you rather deluded crazies cares about the moral high ground?
Also any nuke tossing would most likely result in a MAD secenario.

Pfft... maybe when you have 700 million inhabitants you'll be able afford a missile defense shield like me, Torontia, but for now don't make any boasts. If I wasn't tied up in a six way war right now your capital would be slag and nuclear dust right now. :rolleyes:

OOC:Okay... Ive paid no attention to this thread for long enough.
IC:Official Message to Vintovia From Red Tide Goverment
"We highly suggest that you DO NOT invade Peopleita unless they declare war on you first. We agree with you that Communism is a big threat to the world, we agree that Peopleita is an annoying bug. But its a bug that has some formidable allies, despite our power, we are not THAT powerful. I suggest we wait for the inevitable collapse of Peopleitas goverment. If they try to attack us first... then I will go ahead and drop a Falling Star Kamikaze Sattelite on the heads of their leaders. But please for the love of Mary, dont go biting off more then you can chew!"
End Message

The Fledgling Empire of Valdamacia disagrees with Communism, though has little problem with Socialism. They are indeed different.

Dispite not favouring these, we do not see open war as a practical option against communism. Also, Torontia's comments and actions seem foolish for a nation of silightly larger population and power than my own. We believe Torontia may find itself outnumbered and easily outgunned.

We in no way disagree with any allies of Torontia, or Peopleita and its allies at this time- we view them in a neutral stance.

+++Harlequin Maximus+++

Socialism/communism aren't bad ideologies, only evil leaders can make them nasty. If you have a madman leading a capitalist nation, it'll be just as bad. Peopleita's leader seems to be ok, and the system is not oppressing. Therefore we see no reason for these accusations based on evil deeds made by guys like Stalin or Mao. Peopleita is not responsible for those. What comes to accusations about spreading terrorism, after intense investigations we have come to conclusion that those are twisted and false.

If you go against Peopleita, you will come against us, too.



Warchief Tamujid, Minister of Everything in
Armed Republic of Madnestan

Socialism/communism aren't bad ideologies, only evil leaders can make them nasty. If you have a madman leading a capitalist nation, it'll be just as bad. Peopleita's leader seems to be ok, and the system is not oppressing. Therefore we see no reason for these accusations based on evil deeds made by guys like Stalin or Mao. Peopleita is not responsible for those. What comes to accusations about spreading terrorism, after intense investigations we have come to conclusion that those are twisted and false.

If you go against Peopleita, you will come against us, too.



Warchief Tamujid, Minister of Everything in
Armed Republic of Madnestan

You know whats funny. A madman leading a capitalist nation is exactly Torontia's situation!

-Minister of WHATS UP YO!

You know whats funny. A madman leading a capitalist nation is exactly Torontia's situation!

-Minister of WHATS UP YO!

That's what I meant. I thought it was obvious.

Socialism/communism aren't bad ideologies, only evil leaders can make them nasty. If you have a madman leading a capitalist nation, it'll be just as bad. Peopleita's leader seems to be ok, and the system is not oppressing. Therefore we see no reason for these accusations based on evil deeds made by guys like Stalin or Mao. Peopleita is not responsible for those. What comes to accusations about spreading terrorism, after intense investigations we have come to conclusion that those are twisted and false.

If you go against Peopleita, you will come against us, too.


I couldn't have said it better myself. That's beautiful, man. I invite you to become an ally of Fatus Maximus, a liberal democratic nation. :D

Fatus Maximus' Alliances and Embassy Exchanges Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430193)

Yes, sir!

From: President Hadrian of the Greater Lands

To: Every Nation Involved in this Conflict

Is this how civilized people act? We live in a world of absolutes, and right now the Nation of Torontia has severed the links of peace and resolution.

I personaly find it overbearing when a nation is out-gunned, out-numbered, and continues to be the aggressor.

Hence forth, all diplomatic ties with Torontia are here-by null, and void. Please reconsider your situation, and make a sain judgement.

Signed
Channler Hadrian
Democratic Dictator of the Greater Lands

Sir, you have shown remarkably good reasoning. I salute you!

:salutes:

I extend the same offer to you I extended to Madnestan.

Fatus Maximus' Alliances and Embassy Exchanges Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430193)

I concur with the three nations of Fatius Maximus, The Greater Lands, and Madnestan. All of you seem reasonable and negotiable people no matter your political stance.

+++Harlequin Maximus+++

Oh, what the hell. Go on ahead and click the link too. :D


Fatus Maximus' Alliances and Embassy Exchanges Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430193)

OOC: Well? Isn't anyone attacking anywhere? I want to see some action, dudes!

OOC: Atu'an just wants to see some footage of rebels running around with our submachine guns. We're trying to make a commercial, for Gods sake!

OOC: I have a picture of Mao on my compute desk...

Can we have a copy? Taro down the hall can photoshop him carrying an Atu'an SMG...

OOC: Well? Isn't anyone attacking anywhere? I want to see some action, dudes!

I'll just sit back and see who commits the most war crimes.

The United Kingdom of Hogsweat puts it's full support behind Peopleita and we demand that Torontia apologises immediately, or we'll pretty much bomb the fuck out of them. No pressure or anything but we have more tonnes of munitions to waste on you then people in your country.
Foreign Minister Hayley McCarthur,
5th Union Street, United Kingdom of Hogsweat
http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/hogsweat.jpg

OOC- if we're in the habit of popwanking, there's another 4.1 billion people to Peopleita's side>.>

Toronatia I warned you about Red Tide. Apologise you have no allies in this struggle. Facisim has shown it's true colours yet again.

Why don't we just take over that annoying fascist crap over there and get rid of this bullshit? To get some exrescise for out troops and to liberate the oppressed people. I say lets go for it!


You Must Know Who, Or Your Secret Service Is Fuckin Useless ( :D )

The Commandante declines, there will only be war if Torontia declares it.

Don't you give a shit about the oppressed people in there?

Don't you give a shit about the oppressed people in there?

Of course, but it would be contradicting for me as a pacifist. However it seems inetivable that they will attempt to invade me, in which they will be wiped off the face of the earth.

There is still a possibility that they will be too scared to do so, those sissies.
That leaves the people there suffering under their nazi rule.

There is still a possibility that they will be too scared to do so, those sissies.
That leaves the people there suffering under their nazi rule.

Na their Nazis, they must "cure" the world of Marxism. He will invade, and will be deafeted.

We will aid the nation of Peopleita.

As part of a "lesser of two evils" initiative, we will defend Peopleita, if it is the defender. However, if you have provoked an attack in any way, be it social, economic or military-based warfare, we shall not assist. We would also like to comment on Omanistan and what is happening there. We deployed peacekeepers to help rebuild the country, what is going on there?

As part of a "lesser of two evils" initiative, we will defend Peopleita, if it is the defender. However, if you have provoked an attack in any way, be it social, economic or military-based warfare, we shall not assist. We would also like to comment on Omanistan and what is happening there. We deployed peacekeepers to help rebuild the country, what is going on there?

OOC: Dunno ask Algeristan.

If this isn't a strictly-MT RP then I will back up my ally Leafanistan if it does come to war.

The Imperium of Serapindal is basically looking to kick some serious ass, and will side with Peopolita, seeing as it has more allies.

Being a socialist nation and being an ally of peopleita if torontia invades peopleita (seems unlikely) we will lend full support :sniper:

I definitley think there will be some kind of military atack, when I refer to him as invading, I mean attempting to invade. Not that I don't want the support, but I think that on my own I could even make light work of him.

Well, if Red Tide2 helps him, and we don't give you support, you are pretty dang screwed.

Well, if Red Tide2 helps him, and we don't give you support, you are pretty dang screwed.

Like I said I do want your support, I'm just saying it's gonna be a massacre of that little pussy hole of country.

Attention all nations assisting Peopleita in this conflict:

You are henceforth invited to become allies of Fatus Maximus, a liberal democratic nation who supports Peopleita.

Fatus Maximus' Alliances and Embassy Exchanges Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=430193)

What better use can you think of for Torontia's hateful right-wing extremist thread than a recruitment thread for liberal allies? :p

i have recintly set up an allience with peopleita http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=435111 and so side with them

Prime Minister
Alex Tselis

"The IOS is a Right-Winged Authoritian Capitalist (but still Populist), state. Despite that, we willl still support Peopelita."

Then you, too are invited to become an ally of Fatus Maximus.

Councilman Daniels sat down at his desk, it appeared that a harsh exchange of words were being exchanged by the nations of Torontia and Peopletia. Daniels turned to one of his advisors, "I never did understand Torontia's language, any chance you could translate it's position in this matter for me?" "Why certianly", the young man stated, "We are the nation of Torontia, we're idiots, idiots, idiots, apparently we're idiots ect.". "Figured as much, guess it's best we at least make a statement. You know though, it's nations like Torontia that make me glad we stay off the radar in the international community. Damn idiots seem to be begging for war." the Councilman sighed.

Official Republic Response

Even though our nation is not on the best of terms if you will with the nation of Peopletia we must comment that the use of the word terrorist in describing them is idiotic to say the least. We suggest that the nation of Torontia remove it's collective head from it's ass and stop with these silly proclimations, international violence is never the answer, only the problem.

Donald Giert, Foreign Minister.
The People's Republic of New Sans.

The Commandante sends a message to President Kaufman:

"What was that you were saying about your allience with New Sans? Now it is confirmed that you have no support in your proposed attack."

The Commandante sends a message to President Kaufman:

"What was that you were saying about your allience with New Sans? Now it is confirmed that you have no support in your proposed attack."

OCC: I must have missed it if it's in this thread, but where did this guy say he had an alliance with me if at all?

OCC: I must have missed it if it's in this thread, but where did this guy say he had an alliance with me if at all?

I don't rember exactly, but he said that he had Red Tide and your support. It might have been in his civil war thread.

Message from Endar Forn, Foreign secretary of Bretar:

The Republic of Bretar feels that the nation of Torontia is a threat to the freedoms of other nations. This is however, merely our own viewpoint, and have no intention at this point of acting upon it. Whilst not going so far as to inact a trade embargo, the Bretarian board of tourism has declared Torontia "A threat to Bretarian citizens" and advised them to steer clear.
(On a sidenote, this is not law, merely a suggestion to our people, unlike the oppressive government of Torontia, our people can still exercise their freedoms.)

It is the Republic's view that all nations should be allowed to govern as they see fit, so Bretar will take no action against Torontia, but may be forced to if it tries to stop other nations from governing as they see fit.

On a final note, the Republic of Bretar sends it's greetings to the The Democratic Republic of Fatus Maximus, it is pleasent to find a nation who's values are similar to our own.

Your citizens revere an 800 foot tower of Oreo cookies as well? :D

Your citizens revere an 800 foot tower of Oreo cookies as well? :D

McVitties Diggestives, but close enough.

Well, I think it's unlikely that there will be any military action now, but this is Paul Kaufman we're talking about...

Or as I like to refer to him, "Asshole."

death to the fascist invaders :sniper:
but not yet ;)

I'm about to the point of just pulling out my oversized Gunship and shelling the heck out of him. (And I do have an oversized Gunship) And you know considering the size of my army currently. I'm going for it.